/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15753985]

What is the biggest COPE in science? Some candidates:

>many worlds
>superdeterminism
>dark matter
>falsification

What else?

[Anonymous No.15753988]

Real numbers existing.

[Anonymous No.15754014]

all of it

[Anonymous No.15754017]

That OP's opinion matters.

[Anonymous No.15754036]

>>15753988

Go on. Define existence.

[Anonymous No.15754074]

>>15753985
the absolute biggest cope in science is
>scientists are smart and high iq
one or two scientists do something smart 100 years ago and every unproductive failure scientist on the planet, millions of them, all claim credit for the one smart guy's deed without even thinking about it
but when nasa loses a mars probe because they can't do a unit conversion then suddenly the scientists stop claiming credit for other scientists' work.
you don't see bicycle mechanics going around saying their brilliant geniuses because bicycle mechanics invented the airplane, you don't see portrait artists claiming intellectual superiority because one of their own invented the telegraph, neither of those groups have the psychological need to lie about how intelligent they are, but scientists do.
>hey guys, one scientist was arrested for fucking a dog
>that means all scientists fuck dogs

[Anonymous No.15754132]

>>15753985
manmade global warming.

[Anonymous No.15754160]

>>15753985
Impact factor

[Anonymous No.15754244]

>>15753985
superdeterminism isn't a cope, it's correct.

[Anonymous No.15754256]

>>15753985
String theory

[Anonymous No.15754470]

>>15754244

LOL

>muh hidden variables

What a GARBAGE theory

[Anonymous No.15754480]

>>15754244
It's unfalsifiable.

[Anonymous No.15754519]

>>15754480
>It's unfalsifiable.
which means it isn't science

[Anonymous No.15754555]

>>15754074
>the absolute biggest cope in science is
>>scientists are smart and high iq
especially ever since they let all the women in

[Anonymous No.15754559]

>>15754519
no it's unfalsifiable science
this is departure from the science you've grown to know and love
it is unfalsifiable science is to science
what quantum physics is to classical mechanics
it is a paradigm shift
get used to it
if you can't get behind it, move out of the way for the smart people, the difference makers, the trailblazers, the revolutionists.
you've had your time, now let us have ours!

[Anonymous No.15754848]

>>15754470
because?

[Anonymous No.15754850]

>>15754480
it's exactly as unfalsifiable as quantum mechanics. you can't test indeterminism either.

[Anonymous No.15755142]

>>15754848

Because inventing a theory with zero evidentiary support is garbage. Might as well hypothesize that we're a brain in a vat. Same level of conjecture.

[Anonymous No.15755153]

>>15755142
>Because inventing a theory with zero evidentiary support
you mean like quantum mechanics?

[Anonymous No.15755356]

>>15754256
Actual best answer.

[Anonymous No.15755372]

Everett, superdeterminism, RQM all reducd to Copenhagen anyways; since none of these effectively remove the measurement postulate from QM, all are equally pointless for describing observations made by measuring physical systems (which is, you know, the entire purpose of physics...no big deal!), thus shut up and calculate (i.e. Copenhagen).

[Anonymous No.15755375]

>>15755153
Funny joke.

[Anonymous No.15755379]

>>15755142
I hypothesize that beneath the Planck scale, everything is just little photos of me doing your mom

[Anonymous No.15755385]

>>15755372
>Everett, superdeterminism, RQM all reducd to Copenhagen anyways
false

[Anonymous No.15755765]

>>15755153

So you disagree with the observed phenomenon based on what?

[Anonymous No.15756182]

>>15755765
see
>>15754850

[Anonymous No.15756996]

>>15753985
>>15754132
You:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11lPhMSulSU

[Anonymous No.15757020]

>>15753985
gravitational singularities

[Anonymous No.15758907]

Is "dark matter" sort of like the Heisenberg Compensator on the Star Trek TNG transporter, about which, when quizzed on how it works, the production designer answered "very well, thank you!" ?

[Anonymous No.15758940]

>>15758907

kek

[Anonymous No.15759319]

>>15753985
the theory of gravity

[Anonymous No.15760941]

>>15754555

[Anonymous No.15760974]

>>15754244
>>15754470
>>15754480
>>15754519
>>15754559
>>15754848
>>15754850
>>15755142
>>15755765
>>15756182
Both determinism and indeterminism are falsifiable.
To falsify a non deterministic theory, you construct a deterministic mathematical model/theory that you can then use to predict with 100% accuracy what is going to happen to the particle (i.e. you can predict with 100% accuracy when a proton decays or which slit the particle goes through). This would falsify non determinism.
To falsify a deterministic model, you produce a counter example that can not be predicted using that model. This would falsify the deterministic model.

As it is now, there is no deterministic model to explain quantum mechanics, but it is in principle falsifiable. Thus the scientific position is that determinism is false and the universe is not deterministic.

[Anonymous No.15761013]

>>15760974
>schizophasia

[Anonymous No.15761028]

>>15761013
There is nothing in that post that is word salad. Non determinism is the currently accepted scientific position. Sorry that you're not a scientist.

[Anonymous No.15761193]

>>15760974
wrong.

determinism =/= predictability

[Barkun No.15761201]

The scientific method.

Science is solar guided. Like a spider building it's web, humans conduct science. You don't have just one method, though experiment or elimination is common, doing an experiment is simple. You can do science on your own, you don't need to ledge anything or provide evidence to people like you're in court. What you're looking for is results via any method that discovers them.

It's a big academic con.

[Anonymous No.15761204]

>>15761201
>you don't need to ledge anything or provide evidence to people
You do if you want people to believe you didn't just pull something out of your ass. >>>/b/ is more your board.

[Barkun No.15761207]

>>15761204
This isn't church. I'm not looking for attention. Chances are, if I discover a new tech, I'll build it and sell it. Or use it, if it's a super advanced retard repellant, on you.

[Barkun No.15761208]

>>15761207
GET BWNED KYADS

[Anonymous No.15761264]

>>15753985
>many worlds
Isn't this more of an anti-cope or am I misunderstanding what we're coping with here? Many worlds is downright horrific in its implications.

[Anonymous No.15761271]

>>15761264
>Many worlds is downright horrific in its implications.
what are you going to do? cry about it?

[Anonymous No.15761292]

>>15753985
chromosomes.

[Anonymous No.15761307]

>>15761271
Believe COPEnhagen instead.

[Anonymous No.15761310]

>>15761264
>Many worlds is downright horrific in its implications.
How?

[Anonymous No.15761325]

>>15761292
How?

[Anonymous No.15761332]

>>15761325
chud pls

[Anonymous No.15761336]

>>15761332
What?

[Anonymous No.15761337]

>>15753985
>Gravity
Then why aren't objects floating around me retard

[Anonymous No.15761339]

>>15761310
Nothing whatsoever matters and is all inevitable and one of infinite minute variations of the same event except with an opposite spin particle in a distant galaxy as well as infinite versions where something different happened. If you murder someone in many worlds, well, you did that in infinite other worlds, but you also didn't do it in infinite other worlds, for example.

[Anonymous No.15761460]

>>15753988
who said that they exist retard, mathematics is made up

[Anonymous No.15761462]

>>15761264

They Invented it to save their stupid theory

[Anonymous No.15761464]

>>15761337

One, you quoted the wrong person. Two, all natural law is a mental construction.

[Anonymous No.15761472]

>>15760941
i'm so sorry that you're clinically retarded

[Anonymous No.15761507]

>>15753985
>What is the biggest COPE in science? Some candidates:

All humans are equally intelligent.

[Anonymous No.15762178]

>>15754074
>you don't see bicycle mechanics going around saying their brilliant geniuses because bicycle mechanics invented the airplane.
they should do that
and start calling each other "doctor"

[Anonymous No.15762188]

>>15753985
got to be mathematical platonism

[Anonymous No.15762445]

>>15761507
>nigeria, uganda, sierra leone all have higher IQs than north africa
What's going on here?

[Anonymous No.15762551]

>>15754256
String theory is pretty valid

[Anonymous No.15762742]

>>15761460
No it isn't
>>15761464
Wrong
>>15762188
Wrong

[Anonymous No.15762834]

>>15762742
cry about it

[Anonymous No.15762887]

>>15762834
Math is real and the laws of nature are real. Cry about it.

[Anonymous No.15762963]

>>15762887
maths is real insofar as psychological constructions are real, yes. i'm glad we agree

[Anonymous No.15762971]

>>15762963
Nope. Math is real because quantity is real. It is not contingent on mental constructs. Quite the opposite, mental states are mathematical constructs.

[Anonymous No.15762976]

>>15762971
the concept of quantity is a mental construct. the natural numbers are an abstraction of our experience with discrete objects; the real numbers are an abstraction of our experience with measurement, andsoforth. but these are all psychological constructions, things we invent to describe what we experience

[Anonymous No.15762981]

>>15762976
>the concept of quantity is a mental construct
Nope. Quantity is real and not a mental construction. We use our mind to understand quantity. Doesn't make quantity contingent on a mind. The opposite, the mind is contingent on quantity.

[Anonymous No.15764096]

>>15753985
uninformed midwits discussing science on 4chan boards instead of actually doing it

[Anonymous No.15764315]

>>15762981
Which one?

[Anonymous No.15764893]

>>15762551
string theory is gay as fuck

>WE'RE IN A HECKIN STRING OF GALAXIES IN THE UNIVERSE IM A DUMB FUCKING GOOK

no thanks, sticking to logic

[Anonymous No.15764904]

>>15761507
link me a study that said that

[Anonymous No.15765195]

>>15762981
>>15762976

Guys. The truth is both. Math is made up in the mind, but the mind is the only thing that is "real." You're both right. Read Kant.

[Anonymous No.15765200]

>>15754074
This but realising that IQ is a midwit concept.

[Anonymous No.15765234]

The Axis of Evil in cosmology. Look into it.

[Anonymous No.15766189]

>>15753985
Dark matter definitely is. It's just an excuse for 'our model is wrong,' and 'a magical form of matter that conveniently gets to ignore certain laws of matter' is easier than 'our understanding of gravity is wrong and needs to be replaced.'

Many worlds isn't science, it's just some weird bit of fantasy fiction. It makes no predictions, it can't be tested. Useless.

[Anonymous No.15766195]

>>15765200
correct, thats why they have to lie about being intelligent, if they were legitimately as intelligent as they all claim they are then they would have something to show for that intelligence

[Anonymous No.15766203]

>>15766195
>Get IQmogged by some chad
>He does literally everything faster and better than me
>For some reason though, he lives his life differently than me?
>Says the things I do and value are objectively worthless!?
>While he's assembling Exodia with his life, I'm furiously hustling to win Uno!

Yeah these high IQ copers never show me their superiority in the things that I care about! That means I win!

[Anonymous No.15766219]

>>15766195
Chad is never going to fuck you and he isn't even going to exist in a few years when we begin to genetically modify humans.

[Anonymous No.15766228]

>>15764904
This. Even Steven Pinker carefully admitted we're not equal. Only Bill Nye tier """scientists""" say there's no evidence

[Anonymous No.15766238]

>>15764904
>link me a study that said that

Exact opposite, find **ANY** standardized IQ test that shows ZERO racial differences.

[Anonymous No.15766241]

>>15766238

"Broken System"

[Anonymous No.15766269]

NONE of the top 100 universities in the world are in Africa.
NONE of the world's top 500 largest companies are in Africa.

[Anonymous No.15766315]

>>15764893
Think again m8

[Anonymous No.15766317]

>>15754256
the greatest cope is the most accurate description

[Anonymous No.15766324]

>>15753985
mrna "vaccines"

[Anonymous No.15766969]

>>15754074
nerds think life is an rpg and presume that they since they didn't get blessed with athleticism or charisma then they must get extra bonus points elsewhere.
they happily disregard the theory of evolution they profess belief in when it comes to self assessment
its all a massive cope.
evolution dictates that some members of every species will be the ones with bad genetics

[Anonymous No.15767003]

>>15753985
"infinite universe"

> mfw Zeno's paradox proves the universe is finite

[Anonymous No.15767428]

>>15766969
>evolution dictates that some members of every species will be the ones with bad genetics
You're such a member

[Anonymous No.15767443]

>>15753985
Dark matter does exist though. All attempts at MOND failed real world examples.
Dark energy also exists.

[Anonymous No.15767448]

>>15754244
So you believe the universe conspires to trick observers? The absolute state of jewtube retards.
>>15758907
Dark matter just describes a type of matter that is even harder to detect than neutrinos but which must exist.

[Anonymous No.15767452]

>>15766189
>It's just an excuse for 'our model is wrong,'
The other theory aka modified gravity has been debunked too many times to be a serious contender anymore.
>and 'a magical form of matter that conveniently gets to ignore certain laws of matter'
How is it any more magical than neutrinos you fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.15767520]

>>15766238
you made the claim bruh, you know how it works

[Anonymous No.15767521]

>>15753985

>determinism is a cope

u wot mate? it's the free will "i earned my life" "personal responsibility" cucks who are coping. and hard.

[Anonymous No.15767578]

>>15767521
Considering randomness seemingly exists and is local (spanning billions of light years) hidden variables have been debunked, determism isn't a real thing in our universe. Whether that means free will is real or not is unknown.

[Anonymous No.15767579]

>>15753985
>dark matter

As a layman isn't this shit just some made up force so the existing equations add up?

Like if I claimed 2 + 2 = 5 because you also have to add the dark 1 as well

[Anonymous No.15767604]

>>15767579
We can observe that our universe behaves in a way that indicates there's more matter than what we can actually see. To explain that, two major theories have emerged to explain that phenomenon: dark matter (aka hard to detect matter) and MOND (aka gravity acts differently on large scales). MOND has so far failed to account for several real world examples of galaxies while dark matter has been consistent with all real world examples so far which indicates that there really is a form of matter that exists and is hard to detect, even harder that neutrinos.

[Anonymous No.15767968]

>>15767578
>randomness seemingly exists
a seeming is not proof of anything. anyway, randomness does not seem to exist anymore than it seems not to exist. there is no evidence for or against it, because it's impossible to test for it.

>hidden variables have been debunked
no they haven't.

[Anonymous No.15767990]

>>15767968
>a seeming is not proof of anything.
Determinism doesn't exist locally tho, that much is proven.
> anyway, randomness does not seem to exist anymore than it seems not to exist.
That's your opinion but actual physics indicates it either exists or hidden variables are global (i.e. the universe conspires to trick us).
>because it's impossible to test for it.
It's reasonable enough to believe it does exist.
>no they haven't.
Locally they have been debunked.

[Anonymous No.15768025]

>>15767990
>Determinism doesn't exist locally tho, that much is proven.
no it isn't, lol. nonlocality has NOT been proven, by any bell test, or any other kind of experiment.

"One merely has to note that measuring violations of Bell's inequality, no matter how entertaining the experimental setup, cannot tell us which of the assumptions to the theorem were violated."

(source: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphy.2020.00139/full))

[Anonymous No.15768037]

They keep trying to push the whole "Dinosaurs actually had feathers!" thing, but if you actually look at the list, it's a bunch of stuff like the Chingchongasaurus discovered in 2019 and the Qiaoxiuiuiu Xinjiangius discovered in 2020
Chinese lie about everything else, I bet they're trying to ruin dinosaurs too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_non-avian_dinosaur_species_preserved_with_evidence_of_feathers

[Anonymous No.15769123]

>>15758907
Dark Matter/Dark Energy is a magic number that gets trotted out whenever some behavior of the universe does not fit general relativity. Because no one has come up with a better idea than general relativity, magical matter is still an object of earnest search.

As more observed phenomenon conflict even with dark matter/dark energy handwaving, it becomes increasingly likely that general relativity is just wrong, but no one's even close to presenting a superior broadly-applicable replacement. I assume for experts it's pretty frustrating to be stuck between searching for something that almost certainly doesn't exist and trying to replace a theory that seems largely irreplaceable.

[Anonymous No.15769126]

>>15761339
Good thing it's basically just something a pothead came up with on a couch and isn't relevant to serious people anywhere outside of fiction.

[Anonymous No.15769129]

>>15761507
I'd say a bigger cope is that there isn't clear speciation within homo sapiens. Those lines are not necessarily where we might draw them, but they're definitely there and speciation has happened more quickly in similarly complex species besides humans.

[Anonymous No.15769133]

>>15767452
Because it has never been directly observed despite the expenditure of hundreds of millions of dollars, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of man-hours, decades of attempts, god knows how much energy, all while being (allegedly) the vast majority of matter in the universe, found everywhere.

Neutrinos have been directly observed. Even a black hole has been observed more directly than dark matter despite being, by definition, impossible to directly observed. You just need to produce one (1) directly-observed dark matter particle. Until then it's fairy dust, it's God, it's 'trust me bro.'

[Anonymous No.15769163]

>>15753985
>unified theory
>quantum computing
>fusion power
>green energy
>objectivity

[Anonymous No.15769659]

>>15769163
>objectivity
add "ethics" to that list. every scientists has their price, its often extremely cheap

[Anonymous No.15769697]

>>15769133
kek what a retard
stick a fork in the wall socket bro

[Anonymous No.15769922]

>>15754036
Existence doesn't exist. Non-existent abstractions (like "gravity", "force" (as a noun), etc., which "physics" is riddled with) are usually of verbs or adjectives, in this case of the verb exist, which means located measurably distant from from the tree in my front garden.

[Anonymous No.15770235]

>>15769697
Just as soon as you produce one (1) particle of directly-observed dark matter. I'm not too worried about that happening though, lol.

[Anonymous No.15770243]

>>15753985
>Real Life
>Intelligence is a natural trait (it’s beamed)
>0/0 is undefined

[Anonymous No.15770472]

>>15753985
>what is consciousness

[Anonymous No.15770507]

>>15770235
>just as soon as you produce dry water bro
yeah dw about it lmao

[Anonymous No.15770514]

>>15753985
Physicalism/materialism is a massive cope that some peoploids are less than human and born as lesser animals. If you don't have a self-evident component of your identity that exists in the mental plane then you are a less than human automaton.

[Anonymous No.15770516]

>>15764893
Racism is not permitted outside of /b/. Read the rules.

[Anonymous No.15770535]

>>15753985
two words: wave function collapse

[Anonymous No.15770617]

>>15770507
Cool, keep believing in magic.

[Anonymous No.15771024]

>dry water
its called ice

[Anonymous No.15771787]

>>15771024
vapor is dry until it condenses

[Anonymous No.15773018]

>>15753985
the big bang
biggest soience atheist cope of all time

[Anonymous No.15773221]

>>15753985
The refusal to look into NDEs.

But NDEs are actually solid proof of life after death, because anyone can have them if they come close to and survive death. And they are so extremely real to those who have them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o

As this NDEr described their NDE:

>"Now, what heaven looks like? 'OMG' doesn't even describe how beautiful this place is. Heaven is, there are no words. I mean, I could sit here and just not say anything and just cry, and that would be what heaven looks like. There are mountains of beauty, there are things in this realm, you can't even describe how beautiful this place is. There are colors you can't even imagine, there are sounds you can't even create. There are beauties upon this world that you think are beautiful here. Amplify it over there times a billion. There are, it's incredibly beautiful, there's no words to describe how beautiful this place is, it's incredibly gorgeous."

And importantly, even dogmatic skeptics have this reaction, because the NDE convinces everyone:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

So anyone would be convinced if they had an NDE, we already know this, no one's skepticism is unique.

[Anonymous No.15773767]

>>15753985
science itself is a cope for know-it-alls with severe personality disorders. thats why science nerds all also have such tremendous difficulty socializing. they even go to the length of abusing science to make up "scientific" reasons that excuse their social problems.

[Anonymous No.15773773]

>>15753988
Ikr. How do these people conclude that real numbers don't exist? I just can't fathom it.

[Anonymous No.15773777]

>>15761201
I agree, Barkun

[Anonymous No.15773782]

>>15753985
>studies finding
>records showing
>research suggesting
anything that doesn't say proves in a very direct manner.

[Anonymous No.15773803]

>>15761193
For the love of god just go back

[Anonymous No.15773817]

>>15773782
Some people say it's better than nothing but this is careless considering that means a waste of money.

>Have scientists considered evaluating how a method works first before starting the actual research so that the correlation is not vague?
Perhaps yes, perhaps no, it depends on the scientist.

Surely in the end, my take is we need a good foundation of math to conduct a research. What I mean "good foundation" in math, is to be really good at it with deep understanding and not just surface level. Deep understanding in math and its principles is necessary so we did not make conclusions that were "hanging on the air".

[Anonymous No.15773962]

>>15754244
Determinism and co isn't science, just a philosophical thought experiment

[Anonymous No.15774152]

>>15773962
indeterminism and co isn't science, just a philosophical thought experiment

[Anonymous No.15774212]

>>15760974
>This would falsify non determinism.
no it would not.

[Anonymous No.15774438]

>>15774152
And you would be correct
lol i seriously hope that wasn't a "gotcha" you wanted to do there

[Anonymous No.15774441]

>>15774438
so nothing is science then, because determinism and indeterminism covers everything.

[Anonymous No.15774552]

>>15774441
Incorrect, both views are impossible to prove or disprove thus completely detached of consequence and importance for our real material world.

[Anonymous No.15774556]

>>15774441
Just insert determinism as an axiom into any science that dosn't need to operate on the quantum scale if that makes you feel better. No need to get autistic about determinism and indeterminism if you don't have to.

[Anonymous No.15774566]

>>15774552
>completely detached of consequence and importance for our real material world
wrong.

>>15774556
>just switch between them according to convenience
lazy and obviously wrong approach.

[Anonymous No.15774570]

>>15774566
>wrong because it just is!
Compelling argument

[Anonymous No.15774575]

>>15774570
all scientific theories are either deterministic or indeterministic. by throwing both of these out, you throw out all theories, existing ones and possible ones.

[Anonymous No.15774584]

>>15774575
Define both of those shortly in your own words.

[Anonymous No.15774588]

>>15774584
determinism - things could NOT have happened differently
indeterminism - things could have happened differently

[Anonymous No.15774596]

>>15774566
>lazy and obviously wrong approach.
You don't understand what an axiom is, do you?

>>15774588
You also don't understand the concepts we are talking about, gotcha

[Anonymous No.15774597]

>>15774588
In any experiment in which the result goes along any of the two views could also be said that the opposite view could have happened.

[Anonymous No.15774610]

>>15774597
no - if the theory doesn't explicitly define things possibly happening differently, then it's automatically a deterministic theory. and if the theory attempts to permit both, then it has committed a simple contradiction, and is therefore a bunk theory.

[Anonymous No.15774636]

>>15774596
don't talk to me about understanding when you genuinely believe that determinism is a property that could possibly vary at scale. lol

[Anonymous No.15774654]

>>15774610
>No
How are you certain?

[Anonymous No.15774662]

>>15774654
i explained it. it's on you to refute what i said.

[Anonymous No.15774665]

>>15753985
The job market for science graduates

[Anonymous No.15774677]

>>15774662
Doesn't seem to me that you are certain, you are talking of "coulds" and "if" but that's nothing beyond conjecture when applied to any theory, any case could show the opposite end.

[Anonymous No.15774683]

>>15774677
you're repeating the same point which i already refuted

[Anonymous No.15774695]

>>15774683
>i already refuted
You didn't, you only spoke in hypotheticals.

[Anonymous No.15774714]

>>15773767
>they even go to the length of abusing science to make up "scientific" reasons that excuse their social problems.
Yeah, the people who abuse science to claim that they have no control over or responsibility for how they act are just saying "I'm perfect and I refuse consider changing the way I behave, you must accept my repulsive personality and not complain about it" in a complicated way. Its pure self-centeredness.
We were better off when getting a psychiatric condition diagnosed meant being locked away isolated in a rubber room until you were willing to correct your behavior.

[Anonymous No.15774792]

>>15774695
no. it's not a hypothetical, it's a fact that all theories (at least of physics) are either one or the other. so at minimum you are throwing out physics as a science entirely

[Anonymous No.15774817]

>>15761339
How is that horrific at all?
That is like the opposite of horrific.

[Anonymous No.15774824]

>>15767443
I don't see much of a reason to think that DE exists.

[Anonymous No.15774833]

>>15773221
Why do people from different cultures have different NDEs?

[Anonymous No.15774938]

>>15774792
What you fail to comprehend that its ultimately useless to derive whether some theory/practice is deterministic or not.

[Anonymous No.15774962]

>>15774938
that depends on how you define 'useful'. new theories may lead to new technologies. anyway, the question can't be avoided when we're attempting to describe 'how the world works'.

[Anonymous No.15774974]

>>15774962
Doesn't seem useful at all, both words are obfuscated ways of saying predictable and unpredictable and at their very absolutist definitions they both are unmeasurable and unfeasible even.

[Anonymous No.15774984]

>>15774974
>both words are obfuscated ways of saying predictable and unpredictable
no, predictability has nothing to do with whether things 'could have been different'. they are 2 separate issues

[Anonymous No.15774988]

>>15774984
There's no difference between both pair of concepts

[Anonymous No.15774990]

>>15774988
predictability concerns whether we can know the future. in/determinism concerns whether the future is fixed or not

[Anonymous No.15774993]

>>15774990
>whether the future is fixed or not
Impossible to know, impossible to prove and disprove and thus completely inconsequential to us.

[Anonymous No.15774995]

Where the dark matter particles?

[Anonymous No.15775001]

>>15774993
this whole chain started because superdeterminism was described as a "cope". the main point is, it's not a cope any more so than standard quantum mechanics, which commits itself to the equally unfalsifiable view of indeterminism.

[Anonymous No.15775004]

>>15775001
If its not cope then prove to me that these exist outside of a vague thought experiment, i think my previous post nailed exactly what i wanted to mean.

[Anonymous No.15775008]

>>15775004
it can't be tested, as you said. so call it a cope, but know that if you don't think that quantum mechanics is equally a cope, that you are being inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.15775096]

>>15753985
sun holes

[Anonymous No.15775542]

>>15775096

[Anonymous No.15775604]

>>15774990
The only difference is in the scale of information known.
If we knew almost everything there was to know about a scenario, then theoretically we could chart out the ordained deterministic pathway for the universe itself.

[Anonymous No.15775660]

>>15775096
>>15775542
you have to go back.

[Anonymous No.15775747]

>>15775604
well, i tried to explain it to you. all i can do

[Anonymous No.15775777]

>>15753985
The globohomo space/physics model. All of it.
Without the constant censorship it would all fall apart.

[Anonymous No.15776770]

>>15775660
triggered

[Anonymous No.15777039]

>>15768037
>trying to ruin dinosaurs too
I think dinosaurs may have always been bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15777173]

>>15773221
lol did your old image get banned for spamming

[Anonymous No.15777534]

>>15753985
"peer reviewed" is a massive cope. they pretend it mean "officially true" but everyone knows what it really means is "nobody will ever read this tripe"

[Anonymous No.15778544]

>>15754555
the absolute biggest cope in science is
>>>scientists are smart and high iq
yep, scientists are low paid low level losers. nerds aren't high iq, high iq people are successful

[Anonymous No.15778670]

>>15753985
Globe earth

[Anonymous No.15779354]

>>15778670

[Anonymous No.15780570]

>>15775096

[Anonymous No.15780578]

>>15754160
wow! can that cat eat all those hotdogs!
stick around to find out what happens next time on

[Anonymous No.15781231]

>>15780570
>>/sci/?task=search2&search_filename=JWST%20%26%20cheese.jpg

[Anonymous No.15781284]

>>15753985
Computer modeling:
>i programmed all of my preconceived notions into the computer
>lets see what happens
>…
>looks like the computer affirmed and validated my preconceived notions
>wow, what an incredible surprise
>good thing i did this instead of a real experiment where i might've actually learned something

[Anonymous No.15781326]

>>15762445

aryan invasion

[Anonymous No.15781501]

>>15761339
cant believe there exist serious physicists who would believe such crap.

[Anonymous No.15782917]

>>15753985
The jewish IQ myth.
jews are low IQ, but they wish they were productive and inventive like whites so they try to mimic white behavior, but to no avail. its no different than the way black soience man tries to pretend to be a scientist, but the jews take it more seriously than the blacks do so the jews' cope is that much more cringe

[Anonymous No.15783843]

>>15770507
>dry water
water ice and water vapor are both dry

[Anonymous No.15783890]

>>15753985
DARK *ANYTHING*
>tfw just another way of saying 'fuck knows BUT WHAT I ALREADY USE FREQUENTLY IN CALCULATIONS MUST BE TRUE, YES SIRREE!'

[Anonymous No.15783899]

>>15782917
the white jews are GOAT-tier
the arabs in israel are iran-tier

[Anonymous No.15784905]

>>15783899
>white jews
no such thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggressive_mimicry

[Anonymous No.15784956]

>>15784905
Some Jewish guy had to be the one to throw the coins into the fountain

[Anonymous No.15786284]

>>15781231
The JWST sausage meme is hilarious, how come it triggers you and make you so angry? Does it upset you because it reminds you how gullible you are?

[Anonymous No.15787043]

>>15786284
it /sci/'s best new meme since twum was first discovered.
delicious jwst om nom nom i love astronomy

[Anonymous No.15787081]

Cause and effect enforce determinism.
The manner in which to prove indeterminism is to be able to go back in time and see if another result was possible, other than the result that happened.

Because it is impossible to go back in time, it should not be assumed that determinism is false.

Instead, it is strictly logical that determinism is true. It is a cope to think that determinism is false, because that would lend itself to the idea of free-will, which humans adore.

However, even if determinism is absolutely true, and even if it does technically negate free-will, it is surely not a sin to try to find some means to defeat determinism, as if the actual reality of determinism was a blight, and it is our job, as life, to find a mechanism to actually achieve true free-will.

But until something profound comes up, I will continue to understand that reality is deterministic. I simply hope that someday, determinism is actually defeated.

[Anonymous No.15787216]

>>15753985
Big bang

Natural selection

[Anonymous No.15787233]

>>15753985
The brain generating consciousness.

[Anonymous No.15787397]

>>15761292
As in you have too many.

[Anonymous No.15788360]

>>15754555
this

[Anonymous No.15788989]

>>15754555
>especially ever since they let all the women in
its not just women, shitskins reduce the level of intellectual competition just as badly

[Anonymous No.15789043]

>>15787081
>Cause and effect enforce determinism
wrong, it is cause alone

>it is impossible to go back in time
that is an assumption
>it should not be assumed that determinism is false
i assume you are a bot then, because you are claiming to not have any will
>it is strictly logical that determinism is true
you're a bot, an "ai", and npc. of course that is logical to you
>it is a cope to think that determinism is false
for a bot
>humans adore the idea of free-will
assumption that all people adore the idea of free-will, neglecting the obvious possibility that some despise and hold contempt for the gift of free-will and so try to explain it away or pretend like they don't have at least some free-will.
>i will continue to understand that reality is deterministic
ok hal

[Anonymous No.15789423]

>>15754160
>Impact factor
LOL
This is the best post

[Anonymous No.15790511]

>>15754160
look at all them sausages
>jwst_star_cluster_pic.jpg

[Anonymous No.15791080]

>>15777534
"peer review" is synonymous with "midwits agree"

[Anonymous No.15792643]

>>15753985
how about:
>I'm not interested in earning a substantial paycheck even though I went to school until I was 30 years old in order to get this job
>I'm only in it for the love of science
That incredibly common cope is one of the lamest of them all

[Anonymous No.15793018]

>>15787216
These are both biblical narratives that were paraphrased as science narratives as a means of separating the goyims from their traditional belief systems

[Anonymous No.15793987]

>>15762445
Uganda is high IQ, they have the death penalty for homosexuality there

[Anonymous No.15794114]

Abiogenesis and macro evolution. Soon as you become truly educated on these two things you suddenly realise Atheism doesnt make sense and is just for people who want to fuck mens asses and do drugs.

[Anonymous No.15794117]

>>15794114
Excellent bait. Possibly pants-on-head retarded, but I think this is bait.

[Anonymous No.15795027]

>>15794117
>t. emotionally triggered atheist

[Anonymous No.15796190]

>>15794114
>is just for people who want to fuck mens asses and do drugs.
Its also for people who want to tell lies and steal and murder

[Anonymous No.15797168]

>>15793987
absolutely epic. how do the people who say that africans are low iq respond to this?

[Anonymous No.15798175]

>hey goys, lets spend a trillion dollars on supercollliders, then we'll be able to figure out how atomic nuclei really work
decades later
>oy vey we still have no idea wtf is going in atomic nuclei!
>plz gibe moar reasearchbux welfare money for muh soiyence

[Barkun No.15798193]

>science is for discovery
>No it's information collecting
>Discovery for the information

[Anonymous No.15798509]

>>15753985
string theory, all day long.
it's amazing how so many have spent so long to produce no prediction by which even to judge it.

[Anonymous No.15799797]

>>15798509
string theory is up there, but its not a bigger cope than dark matter. the two might be equally cringe copes, along with abiogenesis

[Anonymous No.15800495]

>>15799797
dark matter & abiogenesis are both clearly "magical thinking"
string theory is more like talmudic pilpul

[Anonymous No.15800697]

>>15761193
you win this thread

[Anonymous No.15800767]

>>15753985
Compatiblism is the biggest cope
>no, we can have free will in a universe of deterministic forces because... We just can! Okay?!

[Anonymous No.15801729]

>>15791080
soviet means committee in russian

[Anonymous No.15802296]

The infinity meme is the biggest of all copes

[Anonymous No.15803565]

>>15767520
are you a negro?
if not, why are you bending over backwards to defend negroes? they hate baizuos

[Anonymous No.15803801]

>>15761201
>What you're looking for is results via any method that discovers them.

That's the scientific method, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15803897]

>>15803801
isn't it weird how natural it seems to people to come up with it?

[Anonymous No.15803931]

>>15753985
>son
>this is bait

[Anonymous No.15804054]

>>15762445
>>15797168
> 84 IQ
> high
???

[Anonymous No.15804106]

everyone in this thread is so retarded

[Anonymous No.15804110]

>>15753985
>falsification
Wut

[Anonymous No.15804113]

>>15800767
Just learn the difference between deterministic and determined

[Anonymous No.15804375]

>>15753988
Numbers in general to be more precise.
>place some rocks on a table
A college math professor (Jew) will tell you those rocks for simply being next to each other now represent a so called "number" equal to the amount of the total quantity of rocks in said table.
>take on of those rocks off the table.
He will now tell you this magical abstract number just decreased by "one".
Did this so called number really changed did it pop out of existence and a new one appeared to replace it? This this happen inside our head or in another abstract concept in the universe?
Is this a ruse by the jew professor to keep himself employed with a large salary?

Are those numbers inside the room with right now?

[Old_Man_In_Red No.15804393]

>>15804375
you

[Anonymous No.15804435]

>>15804113
no difference.

[Anonymous No.15804845]

>>15799797
current understanding of dark matter require string theory. cope reenforcing cope.

[Anonymous No.15804880]

>>15804845
No it doesn't ?

[Anonymous No.15804882]

>>15804435
Seems like you coping

[Anonymous No.15805115]

>>15753985
Evolution. DNA can't add new information, it already has the all the info it needs and just loses parts of it to adapt to the environment.

[Anonymous No.15805136]

>>15805115
>DNA can't add new information
Patently wrong.

[Anonymous No.15805297]

>>15788989
Blaming others for your failure is also low iq behaviour cumskin seether.
You should be among /pol tards.

[Anonymous No.15805298]

>>15753988
Maths is not science you illiterate faggot

[Anonymous No.15805338]

>>15753985
The existence of outer space in a physical form.

t.was working towards an astrophysicist degree since I fell for the black science man meme when I was in high school. Then I realized it’s all made up bullshit since Copernicus time. I won’t elaborate and I won’t argue with chickenhead pseudointellectuals

[Anonymous No.15806546]

>>15804880
cope

[Anonymous No.15806767]

>>15754014
Top kek, Ted called it man

[Anonymous No.15806774]

>>15753985
Entropy!
It claims all in the end, cells will die. Time will pass. Mould will grow. Iron will rust. It is a sobering cope.

[Anonymous No.15807837]

>>15805338
>I fell for the black science man meme when I was in high school.
And that probably happened to you because you first fell for the jews' white guilt meme

[Anonymous No.15808465]

>>15807837
Correct, black science man is an effective shill because he plays into the white guilt victim's desire to seem non racist.

[Anonymous No.15808539]

Went from I will apply reasonable doubt, to I just wanna deny things am not willing to learn the explanation for myself

How does the transmission of a ford pinto works?

I don't know must be cope

[Anonymous No.15808545]

>>15754555
>He doesn't know about brain:body ratio.
So, you're so smart because you can't think of "birds" and "cows" at the same time?

[Anonymous No.15809464]

>>15754160
Why did this kot work all of his life to afford all of these hotdogs?
He can't eat them fast enough

[Anonymous No.15810151]

>>15805298
emotionally triggered

[Anonymous No.15811300]

>>15807837
Correct, black science man is an effective shill because he plays into the white guilt victim's desire to seem non racist.

[Anonymous No.15811393]

>>15809464
Cats are bad at financial planning because they're low IQ

[Anonymous No.15811401]

>>15762742
maths is subjective

[Anonymous No.15811475]

>>15805338
If only you stayed with astronomy long enough to look through a telescope.

[Anonymous No.15811497]

>>15753985
>quantum fluctuations

[Anonymous No.15811518]

>>15753985
>irrational numbers
It’s all integers

[Anonymous No.15811893]

>>15766241
What else could it be? If you don't have the proper budget for education, you aren't gonna end up with good intelligence

[Anonymous No.15813090]

cosmology has to be the biggest cope in science in terms of sheer size

[Anonymous No.15813912]

>>15753985
wavefunction collapse

[Anonymous No.15814691]

>What is the biggest COPE in science?
evading the scientific method by presenting nondisprovable assertions as science

[Anonymous No.15814778]

biology and anatomy for sure
it assumes we're actually thinking and alive, and not just automata or machines observing the events of time, yet utterly lacking control

[Anonymous No.15815597]

>>15753985
>the infinity meme
a massive cope

[Anonymous No.15816332]

>>15811475
>t. chickenhead pseudointellectual

[Anonymous No.15817213]

>I'm gonna become a famous scientist and invent something important and win a big prize
>*actually ends up accomplishing nothing, publishes papers that nobody reads (not even the peer reviewers) and dies penniless*

[Anonymous No.15817779]

>>15801729
that explains a lot

[Anonymous No.15817869]

>>15753985
>many worlds

Actually the whole interpretation obsession is a cope against many worlds. Superdeterminism is just some variant of it (when stripped down from all the imagery and hype, manyworlds only says "there is no wave function collapse at all"; superD only says that among all the possible reality branches there is only a single one actually existing, and is shared by everybody's personal experience. It is strictly impossible to say who is right and who is wrong here).

[Anonymous No.15817879]

>>15753985
Anything that asserts people are real.

[Anonymous No.15819075]

>>15811475
>t. chickenhead pseudointellectual

[Anonymous No.15819867]

>>15799797
inventing ghosts to explain why you can't do your homework correctly is a particularly childish cope

[Anonymous No.15820881]

>>15817879
you're supposed to mature past the solipsism stage when you're less than 2 years old

[Anonymous No.15822064]

>>15811475
astronomers don't look through telescopes.

[Anonymous No.15822135]

>>15753985
GENETICS
without thousands of pages from genetics studies and characteristics.

[Anonymous No.15822418]

>>15819867
>>/sci/?task=search2&search_filename=physics.jpg

[Anonymous No.15822675]

>>15822418
just because you get triggered by that pic doesn't mean that people are going to stop posting it. just grow up and learn to stop being such a crybaby, if you can do that then you won't have to get so angry and upset when you see a picture you don't like

[Anonymous No.15822686]

>>15753985
that time is relative

[Anonymous No.15822688]

>>15822675
Or maybe stop being an unoriginal, unfunny retard. Inb4 "I'm only pretending"

[Anonymous No.15823899]

>>15822688
>stop being an unoriginal, unfunny retard
>t. I post 20 year old memes

[Anonymous No.15824312]

>decide that the speed of light is the speedlimit
>measuring particles going faster than light
>quantum mechanics is random lul

[Anonymous No.15824510]

>>15811893
South Africa was basically a world superpower with its own nukes back when white people were in control of the government. If they have no budget for education its because the government became a kleptocracy after nelson mandela took power and every member of the govt. lives in a palace and has a helicopter.
Also it wouldn't matter if they had the same level of education because they can't into advanced concepts practically, perhaps because they have not yet evolved the capability and are not equipped to run advanced modern institutions which require more than "lived experience".

[Anonymous No.15824688]

>>15824510
>South Africa was basically a world superpower with its own nukes back when white people were in control of the government
They had nukes but virtually no money for schools and hospitals for the majority of its citizens just like present day North Korea.

[Anonymous No.15825304]

>>15824688
you can't compare them to North Korea. People in NK had a lower quality of living than whites in Russia.
Whites in Russia had a lower quality of living than blacks under apartheid in South Africa.

[Anonymous No.15825693]

>>15824688
The official king of South Africa’s Zulu tribe has announced that country was economically, militarily, and socially better under white Afrikaner rule—and that history will judge blacks as only having destroyed everything that they had inherited from the white government.


King Goodwill Zwelithini, who has been Zulu king since December 1971, made the remarks during a speech at an official royal household event in Nongoma, located in the northeastern part of the eastern seaboard province of KwaZulu-Natal, over the past weekend.


The event, held to mark his forty-fourth year on the Zulu throne, was reported on by the Natal Mercury newspaper.


King Zwelithini said the former white rulers of South Africa had “built a powerful government with the strongest economy and army on the continent.”


He went on to say that the white government had “a mighty army, and that the South African currency and economy had shot up” under the National Party government.


“But then,” he continued, “came this so-called democracy in which black people are destroying the gains of the past. The economy that we are now burning down.”


Addressing himself directly to black people, King Zwelethini said that “you do not want to build on what you had inherited. You are going to find yourselves on the wrong side of history.”


“History will judge black people harshly as they have failed to build on the successes of the Afrikaners,” he said, before continuing to explain that “black people loved to use matches to burn down infrastructure” built by the white government.


Below: Three photographs taken on December 7, in Johannesburg, South Africa. The country’s largest city is in the midst of a municipal workers’ strike, and part of their “protest” action consists of throwing the city’s trash into the streets.

[Anonymous No.15825695]

King Zwelithini said that “people on the ground did not appreciate the infrastructure” which they had inherited from the white rulers, even though the ANC leaders themselves governed from the very buildings which the whites had created.
Referring specifically to the Union Buildings in Pretoria and the South African Parliament in Cape Town, King Zwelithini said that he was “surprised that all presidents who have been elected in this so-called democracy, occupy apartheid buildings.”


“But you on the ground, are burning everything that you found here. . . you don’t want to use them (buildings), you say this is apartheid infrastructure,” he said.


Finally, he informed his audience that he “feels lucky that I was born the same year the National Party came to power, in 1948. The Afrikaners respected me. I don’t know how it happened that the Afrikaners respect me so much.”


He also mentioned that at one of his palaces in Nongoma, he still had all the medals which the white government had awarded to his “kingdom,” marking out historical events and achievements of the Zulu people.


King Zwelithini’s comments come after a falling out with the ANC government—which he previously supported—over the reorganization and funding of his royal household.

https://www.nairaland.com/3718960/blacks-south-africa-destroy-south

[Anonymous No.15825775]

>>15822686

Explain this one pls

[Anonymous No.15826366]

>>15825693
>>15825695
based Zulu kang

[Anonymous No.15827505]

>>15804054
They're smart enough to ban homosexuality, which means they're smarter than western nations

[Anonymous No.15827761]

>>15827505
nigger logic

[Anonymous No.15827777]

>>15827761
He has a point. It's the midwit meme in real life. Really stupid people are naturally repulsed by certain things, and really smart people can articulate why they're bad. Only people in the middle can think themselves into loving what's bad for them.

[Anonymous No.15828057]

>>15773018
The one that brought it up was a catholic priest though

[Anonymous No.15829090]

>>15827761
the n word is racist

[Anonymous No.15830742]

>>15828057
so what, priests aren't infallible or immune to the same kinds of delusions of grandiosity that atheists subject themselves to. you're an atheist yourself, you believe in atheist cosmology, why do have so much respect for the priests?

[Anonymous No.15831320]

>>15826366
Zwelithini was the previous king of the Zulus, your picrel is Misuzulu, the current king. They're not all that different in temperament or beliefs, or in appearance, so its easy to confuse them

[Anonymous No.15831341]

>lift
>turbulence
>vortices
>CMB
once again, math has to do all the heavy lifting for our species

[Anonymous No.15832639]

>>15830742
that pic
>you have to behave the way hollywood depicts people of your religion because that constitutes my entire understanding of your religion and I am utterly positive that the atheists and jews who run hollywood are absolute experts in Christianity.

[Anonymous No.15833868]

>>15753985
denying the animal nature of humanity is a massive cope commonly popular with people who will never breed

[Anonymous No.15834960]

>>15760974
NUH UH

DETERMINE THESE NUTS AND CHECK THESE PRIME DIGITS

[Anonymous No.15834965]

>>15765195
>Read the incoherent blabbering of an actually autistic kraut
Ok

[Anonymous No.15834969]

>>15834965
>incoherent blabbering
filtered

[Anonymous No.15834971]

>>15832639
By that logic, only jews are experts on their religion, and all antisemitic stereotypes are wrong.

[Anonymous No.15835466]

>>15767604
>dark matter has been consistent with all real world examples
This hasn't been true for years.

[Anonymous No.15836096]

>>15819867
lol, good pic

[Anonymous No.15837021]

>>15835466
Dark matter is very consistent, its always fake and its always a cope

[Anonymous No.15838416]

>>15837021
and it always appears in exactly the right amount needed to compensate for the inevitably erroneous predictions of infallible saint einstein, the jew-god of the soiyentism atheists

[Anonymous No.15838843]

>>15838416
Dark matter is a universal cure-all for inequalities.

[Anonymous No.15839542]

>>15753985
>Ai will emerge and become cognizant in a Swedish laboratory

[Anonymous No.15839593]

>>15754555
Always remember the female brain peaks at 11 and then shrinks. If women at 11 can't consent then no women can consent.
The only solution is to make sex with women illegal.

[Anonymous No.15839737]

>>15753985
>There exists a moral conundrum in Ai
Their not using the word moral correctly.

[Anonymous No.15840377]

>>15834971
> only jews are experts on their religion, and all antisemitic stereotypes are wrong.

[Anonymous No.15841565]

>>15838843
>95% of the universe is made of cope

[Anonymous No.15842328]

>>15777173
>ban
Yes, thats why I got the new one

[Anonymous No.15843312]

>>15834971
so you're saying that antisemitic stereotypes aren't inaccurate?

[Anonymous No.15844053]

>>15843312
Yes, antisemitic stereotypes aren't inaccurate

[Anonymous No.15845131]

>>15753985
>science is gonna make my comic book utopia come true

[Anonymous No.15845492]

>>15754256
This 100%

[Anonymous No.15846046]

>>15845131
>my comic book utopia
Its not yours, its a message that was fed to you by your jewish media masters.

[Anonymous No.15847064]

>>15834971
jews depict themselves that way, they control the media that the jewish stereotypes come out of

[Anonymous No.15847792]

>>15823899
lack of self awareness is a big tipoff of low iq

[Anonymous No.15849451]

>>15847792
Nerds tend towards lack of self awareness because they're so repulsive that if they did develop self awareness they're probably kys.
Imagine you look in the mirror and you see picrel, what would you do?

[Anonymous No.15849472]

>>15753985
photons are fake and gay, it's higher dimensional waves all the way down and our measuring tools are just shit

[Anonymous No.15849513]

The biggest cope in science is trust.

[Anonymous No.15850803]

>>15849513
>trust
Faith is meant to be reserved for God, humans outside of family are meant to be judged by their actions "know them from their fruits"
But if science is your god then you place faith in science, which is run by people. People commit sins, God does not.

[Anonymous No.15850921]

>>15849451
i mean he’s already been married so he accomplished something most of the people on this board won’t. so probably just keep on keeping on?

[Anonymous No.15851446]

>>15849451
>Imagine you look in the mirror and you see picrel, what would you do?

[Anonymous No.15852539]

>>15808545
Its not that simple. Birds are disproportionately intelligent for their brain sizes because they have much smaller neurons so they can cram in more synapses per gram. But there is greater correlation between absolute brain size to intelligence then to just brain size to body size. If it was closer to brain size to body size, then ants, bees, wasps and other Apocrita would be the smartest. It would also mean that mouse is smarter then both whales and elephants.

[Anonymous No.15852546]

>>15849451
>Look like pic related
>Still got married
Everyone but zoomers has zero excuse, they were handed pussy on a silver platter and wonder why zoomers are all depressed and addicted to copium

[Anonymous No.15853061]

>>15753985
>I'm smart because I can repeat lies I that were shilled at me by Google, CNN & The Washington Post
seems to be an unfortunately popular cope on this board.

[Anonymous No.15854407]

>cntrl + f “simulation”
What if this dream is a proofread simulation of your life. You died, it was because you either you stopped reading or you died haha reading.

[Anonymous No.15854458]

>>15853061
thats the shareblue shills, they're not a naturally occurring phenomenon

[Anonymous No.15854471]

>We are just stardust

[Anonymous No.15855385]

>>15854471

[Anonymous No.15855516]

just let this shit thread die already, it's been up for a fucking month. sick of seeing that ugly face in the op post

[Anonymous No.15855678]

>>15760974
>can predict with 100% accuracy when a proton decays
It decays when the computer code tells it too

[Anonymous No.15855682]

>>15853061
I'm smart because I dont repeat lies that were shilled at me by Google, CNN & The Washington Post

Purely because of antisemitism though

[Barkun No.15855689]

Anything ELSE

[Anonymous No.15855955]

>math is the language of the universe
What would be a swear in your universe?

[Anonymous No.15856004]

>>15855955
8008135

[Anonymous No.15856866]

>>15855682

[Anonymous No.15857506]

>>15855385
>>/sci/?task=search2&search_filename=onions%20vs%20goy.jpg

[Anonymous No.15858334]

>>15857506
wow that pic really triggers you lol

[Anonymous No.15858515]

>>15768025
Reliably replicate a simple kinematic experiment where you deterministically reproduce the state transitions to the angstrom. Good luck.

You've confused the map for the territory. The math working out in a more elegant fashion if all macro-physics is determinsitic is no guarantee of determinism.

[Anonymous No.15858948]

>>15857506
thats a dead link, why did you post it?

[Anonymous No.15859486]

>>15805115
the point is always to add new information retard, people evolve and change all the time until the environment cant affect the person

[Anonymous No.15859623]

>>15858515
i already know that determinism cannot ever be proven by experiment. neither can indeterminism. it's a question that will never be settled by experiment.

i still believe in determinism. why? well, because i was determined to believe in it.

[Anonymous No.15859868]

>>15854471