/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15741476]

STOKE edition

previous: >>15738672

[Anonymous No.15741483]

So anybody read the Walter Isaacson bio of Elon Musk yet?

[Anonymous No.15741484]

>>15741476
reminder that the stoke rocket uses a virtual aerospike, active cooling during reentry, and hydrogen as fuel.

[Anonymous No.15741485]

Why are we worse at staging than every other general on 4chan

[Anonymous No.15741489]

>>15741484
>virtual aerospike
it's a physical aerospike. virtual aerospike doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.15741492]

>>15741484
>virtual aerospike
huh?

[Anonymous No.15741494]

OH NOOO-

[Anonymous No.15741493]

>>15741489
Then what's so special about Stoke's aerospike?

[Anonymous No.15741496]

>>15741483
Stop shilling your fucking book we are not paying

[Anonymous No.15741497]

>>15741493
That it's "good enough" even though its contour is optimized to be a heat shield.
It solves the problem of how to bury a second stage engine into a heat shield.
>>15741492
it's retarded meme

[Anonymous No.15741500]

>>15741485
Infected with retarded tourists who always try to early stage or bake their own threads. Both a blessing and a curse to be the most active general on /sci/

[Anonymous No.15741501]

What other NASA/DARPA engines will revolutionize the industry?

[Anonymous No.15741504]

what does the future hold for SLS?

[Anonymous No.15741505]

Space infrastructure is expanding, Microsoft integrating earth sensing software at Azure datacenters, Axiom Space publishes names of third private mission to the ISS
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https://spacenews.com/intelsat-and-aalyria-aim-for-subsea-cables-in-space
> Intelsat and Aalyria aim for “subsea cables in space”
> SAN FRANCISCO – Global satellite fleet operator Intelsat announced an agreement Sept. 12 with Aalyria Technologies to dramatically speed up satellite communications.
> As a first step, Intelsat and Aalyria plan to establish a bi-directional optical ground and space network in 2024 to transfer data at speeds of hundreds of gigabits per second. The network will rely on Tightbeam, Aalyria’s optical communications technology initially developed at Google parent company, Alphabet, and Spacetime, Aalyria network orchestration technology.
> “We look at multi-orbit as being key to the longterm value proposition we bring to our customer sets,” said Gregory Ewert, Intelsat vice president, business development.
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https://spacenews.com/microsoft-and-esri-to-speed-up-access-to-earth-observation-data/
> Microsoft and Esri to speed up access to Earth-observation data
> PARIS – To speed up access to Earth observation data for millions of customers, Esri is closely integrating its ArcGIS geographic mapping platform with Microsoft Azure Space.
> Microsoft also added the Planetary Computer, a platform that combines multi-petabyte global datasets related to biodiversity and climate change with machine-learning tools, to Azure Space.
> In addition, NASA Langley Research Center, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center and Kongsberg Satellite Services demonstrated rapid acquisition, processing and distribution of Earth science data products by working with Azure Space.
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https://spacenews.com/axiom-space-names-crew-for-third-private-astronaut-mission-to-iss/
> Axiom Space names crew for third private astronaut mission to ISS

[Anonymous No.15741506]

>>15741501
RDE is useless since turbopumps exist

[Anonymous No.15741508]

>>15741501
the only think the rotating memespike can revolutionize is the shockwaves inside it's combustion chamber

[Anonymous No.15741509]

>>15741501
None will, theyre made by NASA they will have a NASA use cadence. That doesnt revolutionize anything

[Anonymous No.15741510]

>>15741501
DRACO.

[Anonymous No.15741512]

>>15741494
>Starship so big that its own white explosion casts a tall dark vertical shadow upon it

[Anonymous No.15741515]

>>15741496
you can get it for free dude

[Anonymous No.15741525]

>>15741485
nah we're actually pretty good, mostly thanks to a rigidly defined protocol about when to stage and what the OP has to look like.

[Anonymous No.15741526]

>>15741505
More companies developing space service satellites, Space projects want to get federal infrastructure funding
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https://payloadspace.com/exclusive-spaceium-and-the-exploration-company-partner-for-in-space-servicing/
> Exclusive: Spaceium and The Exploration Company Partner for In-Space Servicing
> Spaceium, a startup building in-orbit pit stops for interplanetary missions, is teaming up with The Exploration Company on a demo mission to refuel a spacecraft in orbit.
> Spaceium is heads down designing and building a refueling, charging, and debris storage station prototype with a modular architecture to launch next year, and The Exploration Company’s Nyx craft, which is also targeting a demo flight in 2024, is designed to gas up between months-long trips around Earth or the Moon. It’s a match made in…space.
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https://payloadspace.com/exclusive-a-new-plan-for-space-to-be-treated-like-other-infrastructure/
> Exclusive: A New Plan for Space to be Treated Like Other Infrastructure
> AIAA will unveil a plan today that would help space organizations get access to a slew of federal economic development resources typically available to other infrastructure services such as airports, seaports, and highways.
> Project Clarity, which was drafted by AIAA’s Cislunar Ecosystem Task Force, will urge the government to say unequivocally that space projects shouldn’t be disqualified from federal help just because they involve space, said Bob Brumley, senior managing partner of Marble Arch Partners and co-chair of the task force’s communications work group.

[Anonymous No.15741527]

odds = no license today
evens = license today

[Anonymous No.15741528]

>>15741485
clearly you're not involved in other generals on 4chan

[Anonymous No.15741534]

>>15741504
an amazing lunar mission

[Anonymous No.15741535]

Why does /sfg/ love hot staging so much?

[Anonymous No.15741537]

>>15741504
cancellation after BO mission

[Anonymous No.15741542]

>>15741504
The Human Adventure is Just Beginning

[Anonymous No.15741545]

>>15741485
It's one anon, doing it on purpose. He'll reply "meds" to this post because he knows I see him.
It's not ignorance, it's malice. He WANTS this, it's a form of trolling.

[Anonymous No.15741549]

>>15741535
Cus they're all a bunch of autistic retards who jack off to the repetitive droning, engine plumes and contours of giant space dildos and their elaborate dissamblies, not unlike autistic train fetishists.

[Anonymous No.15741551]

>>15741545
wouldn't say it's that anon this time, given that the only fuckup was forgetting to put the name of the thread. Or did he stage at page 9 and I didn't see it?

[Anonymous No.15741554]

[Anonymous No.15741556]

>>15741545
if that was the case he would be bumping both threads.
real splitting is what kills generals

[Anonymous No.15741560]

>>15741504
let's just say we have a few tricks up our sleeves

[Anonymous No.15741561]

>>15741545
it was a honest mistake, not trolling
happens occasionally

[Anonymous No.15741568]

[Anonymous No.15741570]

>>15741568

[Anonymous No.15741572]

Joint Russo-North Korean space mission soon

[Anonymous No.15741576]

>"Many people came to me with stolen parcels," Errol Musk told the writer. "On trips overseas I would sell emeralds to jewelers. It was a cloak-and-dagger thing, because none of it was legal."

Guess this settles the emerald mine saga

[Anonymous No.15741579]

>>15741568
The '50s were simply superior.

[Anonymous No.15741585]

>>15741576
got some raw emeralds from selling a plane, continued to trade in emerals for a while but the total revenue from that was small compared to the engineering firm
it also dried up after russians invented synthetic emeralds

[Anonymous No.15741587]

>>15741576

[Anonymous No.15741593]

[Anonymous No.15741606]

>>15741593
CYKA BLYAT

[Anonymous No.15741617]

>>15741587
TIA

[Anonymous No.15741620]

>>15741576
Its also incredibly that far left people argue in favor of sins of the father passed onto the sun while simultaneously talking about how we need to be tolerance and inclusive. That's pretty hypocritical all things considered.

[Anonymous No.15741633]

>>15741620
『 Hippocracy of the left 』

[Anonymous No.15741638]

>>15741633
>sins of the father passed onto the son through no fault of his own
>you're a nazi

[Anonymous No.15741641]

>>15741620
Kek yeah, but they also want everyone to be poor and own nothing for some reason. The idea of someone being “rich”—and by extension, privately paying to go to space, disgusts them. They think only NASA/governments should have control of space, and that only governments are “competent enough” to understand how to go / should be allowed to go. It literally mindfucks these idiots to think how a private company could be more efficient at lowering costs, and then have ambitions to land off-world on their own. I don’t know if it’s jealousy or what but these people live in la la land (literally and figuratively!)

[Anonymous No.15741646]

>>15741638
My bad, i thought you was one of us

[Anonymous No.15741647]

>>15741641
it shows that private companies can do some things (even very complciated things) much more effectively and cheaply than government can
this should be obvious to most people, but it is the antithesis to a centrally planned communist system

[Anonymous No.15741651]

I am the only one that finds weird the media blackout the we have had for the last 3-4 days ? No news , no Eric Berger dropping clues , no Elon , no EDA , no Zac , nobody saying nothing .

The only "weird" thing was the photo shootout yesterday with the majority of workers .

Weird

[Anonymous No.15741656]

>>15741651
It's over.

[Anonymous No.15741659]

>>15741641
I think they see the infinity of space as basically the same thing as antarctica. And yes I think a lot of it is jealousy because they are fiscally stupid and know they are going to be rentoids the rest of their lives here on earth, so they disdain the idea of someone becoming a “landlord” anywhere. Enter the >muh colonialism arguments, which are beyond retarded.
Now i’m perhaps strawmanning at this point but these people are so fucking stupid that they would get mad at the idea of hypothetically burning fossil fuels on Mars (which would be a net positive) because all they know is “fossil fuels bad”. They claim to trust the science; but their knowledge of science only goes so far as the media and politician talking points

[Anonymous No.15741660]

>>15741651
Everyone is just waiting for FAA

[Anonymous No.15741662]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/13/spacex-no-longer-taking-losses-to-produce-starlink-satellite-antennas.html
> SpaceX no longer taking losses to produce Starlink satellite antennas, a key step to improving profitability
> “We were subsidizing terminals but we’ve been iterating on our terminal production so much that we’re no longer subsidizing terminals, which is a good place to be,” Jonathan Hofeller, SpaceX vice president of Starlink and commercial sales, said during a panel at the World Satellite Business Week conference.
> SpaceX sells consumer Starlink antennas, also known as user terminals, for $599 each.

> When SpaceX first began selling its Starlink service, company leadership said the terminals cost about $3,000 each to manufacture. The company improved that to about $1,300 per terminal by early 2021, and Hofeller’s comments on Wednesday indicate the terminals now cost less than $600 each to make – mass production savings that Hofeller credited as “one of our keys to success.”
> To date, SpaceX has launched over 5,000 Starlink satellites and counting.

[Anonymous No.15741667]

>>15741662
If Starlink were to be a public company it would have already surpassed the trillion dollar mark.

Its literally a money printing machine. Starshield is the key here

[Anonymous No.15741668]

>>15741506
elaborate
RDE don't use pumps?

[Anonymous No.15741669]

>>15741651
>A 4 ring tall Aft Barrel Section for Booster 13 has been moved into the MegaBay ahead of stacking

[Anonymous No.15741674]

>>15741668
turbopumps makes RDE pointless

[Anonymous No.15741682]

>>15741641
>It literally mindfucks these idiots to think how a private company could be more efficient at lowering costs, and then have ambitions to land off-world on their own
This is totally contrary to Roddenberrian principles, chud

[Anonymous No.15741688]

>>15741651
newfag still doesnt know.

[Anonymous No.15741693]

>>15741674
why?

[Anonymous No.15741705]

>21t to GTO without refueling
>5600t total mass at liftoff

NO Non ono non HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.15741711]

>>15741705
the metric that matters is kg/dollar-hour
how fast can it get mass to orbit for what cost

[Anonymous No.15741712]

>>15741515
pay me to read it, bitch

[Anonymous No.15741717]

>>15741712
have you ever read a single book?

[Anonymous No.15741721]

>>15741667
>Starshield is the key here
Regular communications subscriptions are the key here. Starshield will never be more than a high margin, low volume product.

[Anonymous No.15741722]

>>15741667
Starlink will make more money than Starshield. Starshield will there to ensure that politics won't fuck with a NSSL critical system.

[Anonymous No.15741723]

>>15741576
>confessing to crimes, quite possibly even making them up, just to spite your son because he's more successful than you
More degenerate than even the Romans. At this point Elon Musk should hire assassins to take out his parents.

[Anonymous No.15741724]

>>15741705
>Oh no no no no, the fully reusable vehicle stack isn't as light as possible!
>That means...!
>That means...?
>...?

[Anonymous No.15741726]

>>15741705
That’s pretty damn good

[Anonymous No.15741729]

>>15741705
>refueling
Someone is getting fired

[Anonymous No.15741731]

>>15741721
>>15741722
your dont understand. Starlink per se is fine as an internet provider but Starshield is the link between the public side and the government/DoD , which makes the company almost indestructible . Its the glue that holds everything in place

[Anonymous No.15741732]

>>15741717
Only those that interest me.

[Anonymous No.15741733]

>>15741723
>Avoiding taxes to starve the Apartheid gov. of funds
Musk senior is a hero

[Anonymous No.15741734]

>>15741493
It's also a heat shield, and what >>15741497 said

[Anonymous No.15741735]

>>15741646
*were
most welcome, m'lady

[Anonymous No.15741736]

>>15741733
That's quite a different thing from
>confessing to crimes many years later expressly for the purpose of creating bad press for your besieged son

[Anonymous No.15741737]

>>15741731
The spooks already have a boeing constellation, why would they want or need shitshield

[Anonymous No.15741738]

>>15741504
A source for memes

[Anonymous No.15741740]

>>15741501
Reminder that real world Isp of RDEs is so far significantly worse than a typical pump fed rocket engine.

[Anonymous No.15741741]

>>15741733
I find the lack of diversity in your attached image, disturbing.

[Anonymous No.15741743]

>>15741731
Starshield, at best, guarantees that it's not in the Department of Defense's best interest to let them go under, and that distinction only tends to last as long as someone doesn't offer cushier accommodations to the DoD during contract negotiations or sufficiently lower prices. It may be the stepping stone to future capabilities, but compared to their primary revenue streams, Starshield itself will never be that important to SpaceX's bottom line.

[Anonymous No.15741744]

>>15741504
Void

[Anonymous No.15741745]

>>15741549
>they're all a bunch of autistic retards who jack off to the repetitive droning, engine plumes and contours of giant space dildos and their elaborate dissamblies
Don't kink shame

[Anonymous No.15741747]

>>15741526
I do enjoy the current push towards making space a normal thing rather than this revered field where engineers can do no wrong because "the problems are hard guys trust us"

[Anonymous No.15741749]

>>15741731
>>15741737
Starshield as presently funded is a toy. The plan was for SpaceX to launch thousands of boost-phase interceptors, aka Brilliant Pebbles, but the present political class in Washington hates that idea and won't fund it.

[Anonymous No.15741751]

>>15741737
lack of ground stations my friend . Laser sat-to-sat. Direct access and very low latency from a GlobalHawk drone in Iran bombing civilians to the White House. Nobody in between

[Anonymous No.15741754]

>>15741620
If you go around assuming hypocrites are rare you're gonna be disappointed a lot

[Anonymous No.15741755]

>>15741732
be honest, you can't read

[Anonymous No.15741756]

>>15741754
No one said hypocrites are rare. Leftists are a dime a dozen.

[Anonymous No.15741758]

>>15741755
I will not read YOUR book because the personal life of Elon Musk does not interest me. Seethe more.

[Anonymous No.15741760]

Do you remember ? Quite funny ngl

[Anonymous No.15741761]

>>15741662
But I thought starlink was deboonked??

[Anonymous No.15741764]

>>15741693
RDEs have low pressure pumping requirements to move propellants into the detonation ring chamber because the pressure comes from the detonation. However, we already have turbopumps which allow us to pump propellants into insanely high pressure rocket chambers so it really isn't an advantage. Also, all RDEs built so far have worse performance across the board than any main rocket engine built since the 70s, so unless they are greatly improved they won't be used.

[Anonymous No.15741766]

>>15741761
don't worry, I'm sure thunderfootfag will redebunk it soon

[Anonymous No.15741772]

>>15741572
>Joint Russo-North Korean space mission soon

I don't think too many people really understand the severity of a RUS-NORK cooperation.
Russia needs weapons, NK has them.
NK is trying to get to space (and make better rockets), which Russia has both.

I'm not too worried about Russia getting weapons from NORK, as they are probably trash anyways, but NORK possibly getting better rocket technology (or straight up trading for RD-180's) is a scary thought. Kim is fucking psychotic.

[Anonymous No.15741773]

>>15741756
There are many hypocritical people everywhere on the political spectrum because being a hypocrite is just a negative part of human nature, like envy and crab-in-bucket mentality.

[Anonymous No.15741774]

>>15741758
learn to read nigger

[Anonymous No.15741775]

>>15741774
keep seething

[Anonymous No.15741778]

>>15741760
lol

[Anonymous No.15741779]

Question for (you). You are Elon, T-2 years before the first attempt to land on Mars .

¿What would you do to improve the communications latency between Earth and Mars ?

[Anonymous No.15741784]

>>15741496
And I reckon is doesn't have anything this general already knows.

[Anonymous No.15741791]

Elon-

[Anonymous No.15741792]

license today, keep refreshing
https://www.faa.gov/data_research/commercial_space_data/launches/

[Anonymous No.15741794]

>>15741705
>21t to GTO
>fully reusable
Your point was?

[Anonymous No.15741797]

>>15741772
What would norks do even if they had something like a zenit? At some point even china would get pissed at them for doing ASAT tests and stuff

[Anonymous No.15741804]

>>15741792
i have the feeling too. I'll keep F5'ing

[Anonymous No.15741810]

>>15741772
Kim’s little daughter is going to take full control of the country once her dad dies of the meat sweats and build a giant indigenous hypergolic starship clone

[Anonymous No.15741811]

>>15741779
Cant fix speed of light.

[Anonymous No.15741812]

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1701961511747330328

https://archive (dot) ph/20230913142605/https://www.wsj.com/tech/spacexs-starlink-demonstrates-its-power-but-still-needs-growth-9906c5b0

> SpaceX’s satellite-internet division has outpaced rivals, generated surging revenue and played a pivotal role in Ukraine. The business still has a long way to go before living up to Chief Executive Elon Musk’s ambitions.
> Starlink, which relies on a satellite fleet to provide high-speed internet connections, reported $1.4 billion in revenue for 2022, according to recent documents viewed by The Wall Street Journal—up from $222 million the year before.
> Starlink is bumping up against a reality articulated by many skeptics of satellite internet. The majority of the world’s population that the business could serve and that can afford high-speed broadband lives in cities. In those regions, internet service is readily available, usually offers cheaper monthly costs than Starlink and doesn’t require specialized equipment.
> The recent documents viewed by the Journal showed that capital expenditures at SpaceX for 2022 were $3.2 billion. SpaceX has funded its capital investments in part by using upfront cash that customers use to reserve future launch slots, as well as by selling additional stock. Those sources of cash could be unsustainable without faster and more profitable growth.

[Anonymous No.15741814]

>>15741812
https://twitter.com/JackKuhr/status/1701970642575200394

[Anonymous No.15741815]

>>15741810
Why do we isolate them again? Seems dickish.

[Anonymous No.15741817]

>>15741815
Juche is a self-isolationist policy

[Anonymous No.15741818]

>>15741814
https://twitter.com/JackKuhr/status/1701982114365800848

> 1/4th of mainland US is still Starlink waitlisted

[Anonymous No.15741821]

Cant wait

[Anonymous No.15741822]

>>15741818
Regulatory hurdles. Can't make available until the state or municipality approves it.

[Anonymous No.15741825]

Kim's getting RD-180s isn't he?

[Anonymous No.15741827]

>>15741822
>>15741818
It means population density, not regulatory hurdles. Which means there are more users in those area than Starlink can serve. If you really need it, there's option for mobile.

[Anonymous No.15741829]

>>15741705
>payload
>vehicle mass
this person is the hydrogen shill. both methane and oxygen are cheap.
starship optimizes for $/kg

[Anonymous No.15741836]

>>15741705
>highest mass to GTO of any other rocket is Vulcan Centaur is 7t which hasnt even launched
>only has a 180 kg increase over Delta IV
>starship is literally reusable and has in orbit prop transfer
nasacels are so buckbroken they cant even find mediocre points to shit on starship for

[Anonymous No.15741840]

>>15741792
depressing gap

[Anonymous No.15741842]

>>15741705
>21,000 kg to GTO for less than $20m launch cost
exquisite

[Anonymous No.15741844]

>>15741840
>depressing gap

[Anonymous No.15741845]

>>15741840
>SN8 missing
lol still shaking my head they launched with no loicense

[Anonymous No.15741854]

>>15741825
How else will he send instant sunshine to the East Coast?

[Anonymous No.15741856]

>>15741840
31 engine boosters are hard.
please understand

[Anonymous No.15741857]

>>15741797
China doesn't particularly like North Korea. They support them because it's better than having US troops bordering Manchuria, but Kim starting shit frequently harms their interests (i.e. by causing the US to deploy THAAD to South Korea, or when they seized a bunch of Chinese fishing boats). Since 2018 or so China has kept them on a short leash.

[Anonymous No.15741860]

https://twitter.com/jolingkent/status/1701963039241609341

[Anonymous No.15741862]

>>15741845
fuck licenses

[Anonymous No.15741865]

>>15741856
thank goodness they avoided that problem by giving the booster 33

[Anonymous No.15741868]

just love

[Anonymous No.15741871]

>>15741854
UDMH/N2O4

[Anonymous No.15741872]

>we have to keep funding sls because they will send a transblackwxmxn to jupiter or whatever
whats even the point anymore. cut funding to force their hand and have it all go in to probes or training astronauts instead.

[Anonymous No.15741874]

>>15741862
oi m8 is tha a slag wobbling ye knob? Betta show us ye shaggin loicense then

[Anonymous No.15741876]

>>15741705
Could probably do >45 tons to GTO in expendable config

[Anonymous No.15741877]

>>15741871
uh oh, stinky!
>>15741872
>transfer funds
Doesn't work like that, however that just means it can be cancelled without affecting the funding of anything else, so it should still be cancelled asap.

[Anonymous No.15741878]

>>15741705
Reusablilility is KILLING spacex omg

[Anonymous No.15741879]

>>15741876
Why when you can fly Starship reusable five times for a tenth the price of an expendable launch?

[Anonymous No.15741881]

>>15741857
What even is the end-game of north korea hahahah

[Anonymous No.15741882]

Thoughts on Tory Bruno's tweet on fairing sizes?

[Anonymous No.15741884]

>>15741860
>>15741868
I wonder if he is going to do bit of a trolling. Altman, Zuckerberg, Gates are there. Probably not the only people who he is angry with.

[Anonymous No.15741885]

>>15741882
This is cruel to whales.

[Anonymous No.15741886]

>>15741882
They're smaller than Starship's

[Anonymous No.15741889]

>>15741882
why would you want to put whales into orbit ? a bit cruel isn't it ?

[Anonymous No.15741890]

>>15741881
The goal is survival of whatever the Kim clan is. Nothing less, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.15741891]

>>15741882
>we can fit 2 whales per cheeseburger or whatever
you mutts make it too easy. also put starship there now

[Anonymous No.15741892]

Do you think many people out there bashing reusability think that launch costs per kg are applied to the entire rocket and not just the payload on top? Could explain a lot of retardation

[Anonymous No.15741894]

>>15741886
>>15741891
>>15741882

[Anonymous No.15741896]

>>15741879
Idk, maybe you want to send a 45 ton satellite to GEO and think that orbital construction is gay, but if you want to you can. I do wonder how much a fully expendable Starship would cost. Probably less than delta lV heavy but more than an expensable falcon heavy.

[Anonymous No.15741898]

Latest image , calm before the storm

[Anonymous No.15741899]

>>15741504
an elephantine amount of $$$

[Anonymous No.15741902]

>>15741889
we're preparing for Star Trek IV

[Anonymous No.15741903]

>>15741898
Fake and gay until license drops

[Anonymous No.15741910]

>>15741896
My ballpark estimate for fully expended Starship stack is $200m. It was revealed to me in a dream.
No one has ever built a geostationary satellite even close to 21 tonnes, I doubt the industry will experience any headaches from not being able to launch >21,000 kg satellites to GTO.
Also, if you REALLY want a 40+ tonne payload sent to GTO, you can use refilling in LEO and likely save over $100m vs buying an expended launch.

[Anonymous No.15741912]

Calling it now, no license today. FUUUUUUUCKKKK ALL THIS WAAAAIIIIIITING AHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.15741918]

Some people are saying friday, and if not , monday. Of course , nobody has sources , just speculation

[Anonymous No.15741921]

>>15741896
A quick breakdown, assuming near-1 mil engine costs
• About $40 mil for engines
• $1 mil to fully fuel and oxidize the ship and booster
• Let’s call it… $9 mil for processing, miscellaneous licensing fees or whatever, cost or the actual rocket stack that’s being expended, etc.
That’s $50 mil, if you want to just charge the customer and end up without a profit. Ideally your want at least a $10-20mil profit so $60-70 million for 21T GTO. Not great, but by no means terrible.

Apparently NASA is only paying $20 mil for ESCAPADE to fly on New Glenn—which can do 13.6T to GTO. But I’m super confident Bezos is just eating a ton of profit here and this launch will suck money from the company, not grant them a profit

[Anonymous No.15741922]

>>15741910
>Starship starts opening up booking first commercial launches
>Space Force immediately reserves a fully expendable starship launch with a highly classified payload

[Anonymous No.15741923]

>>15741896
>maybe you want to send a 45 ton satellite to GEO
so launch it to LEO. then refuel at a depot.
simple as

[Anonymous No.15741924]

>>15741896
HLS Starship ops will prove and streamline propellant delivery and transfer between Starships, so there would need to be someone ready to launch a >21 ton satellite to GTO during the gap between the first commercial Starship payload launches and the full implementation of operational propellant refilling for this limitation to cause any potential loss of business.
I doubt such a payload will exist during that ~1.5 to 2.5 year period starting next April.

[Anonymous No.15741928]

>>15741912
keep going, the FAA is waiting for a powerful psychic seethe engine to ignite before they issue anything

[Anonymous No.15741930]

>>15741889
Cetaceans belong wherever we want to go - and we'll do plenty well when we get there

[Anonymous No.15741931]

>>15741896
>45ton satellite
for when you want to see the pores on a person's head from near-GSO

[Anonymous No.15741932]

>>15741930
Flipper digits typed this post

[Anonymous No.15741937]

>>15741711
> kg/dollar-hour
>how fast can it get mass to orbit for what cost
Do customers really give a shit here? This is a big ULA selling point but it just seems like cope
Is the difference measured in minutes here? Or are we talking a few hours/days vs a few *weeks* of small orbital boosts, because that would make more sense

[Anonymous No.15741938]

>>15741705
this is starship by itself, pack an expandable kick stage inside the fairing and it'll be able to do more than that

[Anonymous No.15741939]

>>15741930
The dolphin can't rape anything in that space suit, he's going to get depression.

[Anonymous No.15741941]

Zubrin

[Anonymous No.15741945]

>>15741773
>There are many hypocritical people everywhere on the political spectrum because being a hypocrite is just a negative part of human nature, like envy and crab-in-bucket mentality.
They are not evenly distributed. They cannot be evenly distributed when one side of that spectrum intentionally goes against human nature and condemns it.

[Anonymous No.15741946]

If a whale were as intelligent as we are, would they achieve a way to reach space ?

[Anonymous No.15741948]

>>15741930
Space travel and space habitats for aquatic creatures would be hell, imagine trying to launch a crew capsule full of water or being confined to a water filled suit for the duration of a flight. Imagine trying to work out the HCAV systems for a spacecraft that's mostly full of water, how do you continuously remove gas bubbles effectively enough to not cloud the whole volume? etc.
Even spinhabs suffer immensely. You want a generation ship to the stars? Have fun living in a 3 meter deep "sea" for your whole life as your ship crosses the gap very slowly due to its very high non-propellant mass fraction.

[Anonymous No.15741952]

>>15741921
Don't quote me on this since SpaceX might be buying in bulk and for cheaper. A 0.37kg sheet of 301 aerospace grade stainlesssteel costs ~250$. Assuming 50% Starship and superheavy's 300t dry mass is stainless steel structure (very conservative), thats $100 million in material costs alone.
https://www.onlinemetals.com/en/buy/stainless-steel/0-02-stainless-sheet-301-1-2-hard/pid/9644

[Anonymous No.15741953]

>>15741946
no

[Anonymous No.15741956]

https://twitter.com/SenBillNelson/status/1701996874624819698

WE ARE GOING

[Anonymous No.15741957]

>>15741937
I think he's talking about scheduling. Falcon 9 has started this paradigm where you can buy a launch and fly it pretty soon after, while before the launch date was typically years out at the time of sale.
If your launcher is cheap per flight AND you can book a flight with months or even weeks of advance, vs years, you're an attractive market option.

[Anonymous No.15741958]

>>15741952
Oh shit, yeah I might have been way off. I did a quick google and found some rando who claimed it was $6 mil in steel costs for super heavy and just accepted it as fact lol

[Anonymous No.15741959]

>>15741956

[Anonymous No.15741961]

>>15741938
>pack an expandable kick stage inside the fairing
why would you? refuel at depot instead.
starship.
leveraging starship fully reusable LEO launches is the cheapest thing to do

[Anonymous No.15741963]

>>15741939
Dick ports for convenient sexual assault and for using prehensile penis to hold on to anchor points while indoors (females use prehensile vaginal muscles to grip protrusions on the walls for the same purpose)

[Anonymous No.15741964]

>>15741948
WE ARE GOING

[Anonymous No.15741965]

>>15741959

[Anonymous No.15741967]

>>15741965

[Anonymous No.15741968]

>>15741945
Oh I say nothing about the relative distribution among groups, the left clearly has more hypocrites than the right or center

[Anonymous No.15741972]

>>15741961
If you're insisting on doing it in a single launch like the other poster was. My point was that even if you take that retarded assumption (ignoring refueling in an architecture built around refueling) you can still do more than 21 tons.

[Anonymous No.15741974]

>>15741952
Bulk is immensely cheaper per kg than flat pre-cut squares. I'd estimate at most 1/5th the cost when comparing rolls to pre-cut small stock.

[Anonymous No.15741977]

>>15741964
TO GET DOLPHIN RAPED IN SPACE

[Anonymous No.15741981]

Will starship have a s*x room for the Mars trip ?

[Anonymous No.15741980]

>>15741948
The dolphin tank also doubles as radiation shielding.

[Anonymous No.15741982]

>>15741981
Early colonists will all be exhibitionists. Privacy costs too much in space.

[Anonymous No.15741985]

>>15741977
Your monkey sluts love BDC

[Anonymous No.15741987]

>>15741974
No need to estimate. https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/304-stainless-steel-roll.html
At 70% of mass (which is still low) and double the price of the chinese you're still well below 1 million dollars.
The previous poster was off by 2 orders of magnitude!

[Anonymous No.15741989]

>>15741956
>We're going to do Apollo 8 again.... therefore moon colony
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.15741990]

>>15741987
Yeah $100 mil for just steel alone seems fucking insane and there is no way it would ever be able to replace F9/FH

[Anonymous No.15741994]

>>15741956
>nasacels shilling again
YWNGTM

[Anonymous No.15741997]

>>15741989
Artemis’ stated goal isn’t a moon colony, it’s literally just delivering the first woman and non-white to the moon. This is unironically the mission statement of the program. Anything beyond this is just a hypothetical. The first official permanent structure that isn’t just the lander is not slated until Artemis VIII, tentatively slated for 2031 as of now

[Anonymous No.15742003]

>>15741987
Yeah but that is non aerospace grade steel. You're probably looking at a 5-10x markup with that.

[Anonymous No.15742004]

>>15741997
>>15741956
>"The first crewed Artemis mission around the Moon will help lay the foundation for our long-term presence on the lunar surface"
"We're going to do Apollo 8 again... therefore moon colony."

[Anonymous No.15742005]

>>15741981
>>15741982
>>15741985
Kys

[Anonymous No.15742009]

>>15742005
People have sex. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.15742013]

>>15741688
T

[Anonymous No.15742014]

>>15742003
>aerospace grade steel
what do you think that means?
starship is made from regular, quality controlled steel.
their former supplier outokumpu doesn't even list aerospace on their website.

[Anonymous No.15742016]

>>15742013
>>15742009
YWNBAM

[Anonymous No.15742018]

>>15742003
Ahhhh yes, SpaceX, the company known for procuring materials from shill companies with huge markups

[Anonymous No.15742019]

>>15741760
>moderator
MODS ARE CLODS

[Anonymous No.15742020]

elon is reportedly meeting with FAA officials in DC today

[Anonymous No.15742021]

>>15742016
>he's squeamish about letting other people see his penis
You will never be a Martian. Insecure dicklets have no place in space.

[Anonymous No.15742023]

>>15742016
You know it's true.

[Anonymous No.15742024]

>>15742020
in some AI meeting too >>15741860

[Anonymous No.15742025]

>>15741981
>>15741982
>>15741985
>>15742009
>>15742016
>>15742021
>>15742023
stop spamming retarded shit

[Anonymous No.15742027]

>>15742018
We have pictures of some of their deliveries and it's not NASA spec rolled by a Japanese master by hand in a cave on mount Fuji.

[Anonymous No.15742028]

>>15742021
Modesty is a moral virtue

[Anonymous No.15742030]

>>15742025
go back

[Anonymous No.15742034]

>>15742027
>Alabama

[Anonymous No.15742036]

>>15742025
>noo you can't discuss the social factors of space exploration because.... you just can't okay?!

Do you honestly think the first colony habitats will have private quarters for everybody, let alone the spacecraft that brings them there? Expect to live like a 19th century sailor, not a rich boomer on a luxury cruiseliner.

[Anonymous No.15742039]

>>15741723
yeah it's incredibly bizarre, Errol is publicly shitting on Musk lol.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/01/elon-musk-father-interview-not-proud-errol-family
>When asked if he’s proud of his son’s accomplishments, Errol Musk says: ‘No … we are a family that have been doing a lot of things’
>Errol continued discussing his son, saying that the younger Musk feels “behind schedule” in terms of where he wants his various companies to be, and is “not as happy as he’d like to be”.
>Compared with Elon, Errol said during the interview that his other son, Kimbal Musk, is the “pride and joy” of his life. Kimbal is a restaurateur and chef with an estimated net worth of $700m, though Errol claimed that Kimbal was also a billionaire, reported Business Insider.

[Anonymous No.15742040]

OMG YES . FAMILY PHOTO

[Anonymous No.15742041]

>>15742025

[Anonymous No.15742045]

>>15742040
nice

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1702016457834643813

[Anonymous No.15742049]

>>15742039
Worse family than pic related. Elon Musk should seriously have them assassinated.

[Anonymous No.15742050]

>>15742039
Shut the fuck up with your retarded off topic hit pieces nobody gives a fuck. Post about rocketry you worthless shitflinger

[Anonymous No.15742053]

>>15741812
https://twitter.com/SpaceAbhi/status/1701999630735876559

[Anonymous No.15742054]

>>15742040
Looks so fun

[Anonymous No.15742055]

>>15742049
I was just thinking that, they're in SA right? A lot can happen in the middle of the night there.

[Anonymous No.15742059]

>>15742025

[Anonymous No.15742060]

>>15742053
>designed to last 5 years
Isn't that how long they take to burn up if they don't boost at all? Which they do.

[Anonymous No.15742062]

https://twitter.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1701731221079036140
Rocketlabsisters, i don't feel so good

[Anonymous No.15742063]

>>15742040
Yeah so apparently kennedy used to have a huge problem of people accidentally/willingly falling from the shuttle tower and dying lol. Like, it was pretty common. It’s amazing we haven’t seen people fall on live stream, I hope it stays that way

[Anonymous No.15742066]

>>15742040
>those chefs near the front
MVPs

[Anonymous No.15742068]

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1702016457834643813
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1702016457834643813
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1702016457834643813

[Anonymous No.15742069]

>>15742062

[Anonymous No.15742072]

>>15742063
>working at NASA makes people feel suicidal
>working at SpaceX makes people feel fulfilled
go figure

[Anonymous No.15742073]

>>15742062
>noooo you can't just
kill all investoors.

[Anonymous No.15742074]

>>15741717
I've read starship troopers and the nuclear express. That's it must of the time I have available to read a book I'd rather do something else like vidya

[Anonymous No.15742079]

>>15742060
not sure, could be the propellant or lifetime of the hall effect thruster cathodes or something

also pic related
https://twitter.com/SpaceAbhi/status/1702014617093030237

[Anonymous No.15742081]

>>15742069
Wow one is actually dedicated to its goal and is leading an entire industry by a country mile while the other is a stagnating and just corporate welfare for lazy bureaucrats. Who wouldve thought that if you worked the same hours at both one sides workers would be happier doing so?

[Anonymous No.15742085]

>>15742027
>>15742014
I'm pretty they have aerospace certified products though, they aren't just selling regular uncertified stainless to SpaceX. Although SpaceX did start developing their own spec 30X stainless steel but I doubt they'll manufacture it in-house unless they buy a steel mill. Stainless steel is probably one of the few things that wouldn't be better if they were manufactured in-house. Way more difficult, in terms of energy, labor and land usage while suffering from low economies of scale compared to traditional mills selling to everyone. In-house works very well for machining not for raw material.

[Anonymous No.15742089]

>>15742039
Errol is trying to derail Elon

[Anonymous No.15742090]

>>15742085
torille

[Anonymous No.15742092]

https://youtu.be/zPHtJLt_rz4?si=fNftkCtUa8dKjese
chimps

[Anonymous No.15742094]

>>15742039
Yeah, I can see why Elon hates his dad

[Anonymous No.15742098]

>>15742092
what the absolute fuck, I thought this was a joke at first
but its actually from NASAs official channel

[Anonymous No.15742101]

>>15742039
what a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.15742109]

>>15742062
>charitable foundation
Ah, yes, money laundering.

[Anonymous No.15742113]

launch is definitely within the next 12 weeks

[Anonymous No.15742119]

>>15742020
https://twitter.com/teslaconomics/status/1702005569115275484?s=46&t=sZkmO3NtoHOYKaQjN6Jx9g

maybe he is going to FAA officials soon, but idk why
cant they just send the stuff by mail?

[Anonymous No.15742122]

>>15741881
To stay independent. Otherwise they'd be globohomo'ed without nukes

[Anonymous No.15742125]

Kathy is there

[Anonymous No.15742126]

>>15742119
oh he actually says he is about to meet the FAA and late for that meeting due to this interview

[Anonymous No.15742130]

>>15742092
money from the NASA chimpanzee conservation fund should be directed toward SLS

[Anonymous No.15742132]

>>15742119
kinda cringe how he keeps saying we should ban AI when's he's at the forefront of AI development.

[Anonymous No.15742133]

>>15742132
not ban, regulate

[Anonymous No.15742134]

>>15742132
pretty much every scifi has AI as a great filter event

[Anonymous No.15742136]

>>15742132
>how he keeps saying we should ban AI
go back to r*ddit

[Anonymous No.15742137]

>>15742132
did you listen to anything he said? fucking retard

[Anonymous No.15742138]

>>15742133
>not ban, regulate
In other words, give him and his likes a monopoly.

[Anonymous No.15742141]

>>15742119
>>15742126
ULA purchased CNBC interviewers trying to delay Starship launch

[Anonymous No.15742142]

>>15742138
>>15742137
>>15742136
>>15742134
Off topic shut up
>>15742133
>>15742132

[Anonymous No.15742144]

>>15742138
>in other words
stopped reading right there

[Anonymous No.15742148]

>>15741483
>(((Walter Isaacson)))

[Anonymous No.15742150]

>>15742142
>say stupid shit
>get called out
>"S-STOP TALKING ABOUT IT"
Sneethe.

[Anonymous No.15742151]

>>15742134
how to pass through the filter bros???

[Anonymous No.15742152]

>>15742144
I accept your full concession. It would be better if he simply demanded a ban. He's demanding a dystopia.

[Anonymous No.15742153]

>>15742138
>In other words
When somebody says this, what they're really saying, in other words, is "I'm about to make some shit up and put words in this other person's mouth"

See how that works?

[Anonymous No.15742156]

>>15742150
Never posted about this AI shittery, all of you need to shut up. Meds and sproke now.

[Anonymous No.15742157]

>>15742153
All I see is your full concession and the bitter tears of rage that accompany it. "Regulation" is code for "monopoly" and has been for at least a century.

[Anonymous No.15742161]

>>15742153
don't argue with the retard

[Anonymous No.15742163]

>“Sanity and stability will be prime requirements for traveling to Mars,” Musk said. “You don’t want someone going nuts and opening the airlock in the middle of the night.”
What does he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15742168]

>>15742157
you just keep making shit up and have no qualms about it
amazing

[Anonymous No.15742169]

>>15742125
Oi let’s go, my interim management downselection queen

[Anonymous No.15742170]

I was so excited for this thing to launch

[Anonymous No.15742171]

>>15742163
this will only be a risk when the colony is little more than a small outpost. larger colonies will have armed guards at the airlocks and hermetic doors that slam shut if there's a breach in area.

[Anonymous No.15742173]

>>15742171
You make it sound like a prison.

[Anonymous No.15742174]

>>15742173
more like a navy ship

[Anonymous No.15742175]

>>15742173
you don't get thrown out of the airlock in a prison

[Anonymous No.15742177]

>>15742175

[Anonymous No.15742180]

>>15742173
Ok stay on Urf then Mars is full.

[Anonymous No.15742183]

>>15742125
based

[Anonymous No.15742185]

>>15742180
No I'm going to sign up to be one of those guards.

[Anonymous No.15742186]

>>15742168
Keep denying basic reality.

[Anonymous No.15742187]

vacuum has a double u but not a w

[Anonymous No.15742188]

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1701988904943972679

[Anonymous No.15742191]

>>15742122
Every nigga got schooled by the fate of Gaddafi

[Anonymous No.15742192]

>>15742187
vat is ze difference?

[Anonymous No.15742197]

>>15742191
he was overthrown in a popular uprising

[Anonymous No.15742198]

>>15741733
I like how you can tell which ones are the Russians from their expressions alone

[Anonymous No.15742202]

>>15742197
t.

[Anonymous No.15742203]

F5 IT https://www.faa.gov/data_research/commercial_space_data/launches/

[Anonymous No.15742207]

>>15741741
Lack of diversity? They have BOTH kinds of spaceman.

[Anonymous No.15742208]

Post faggots that got BTFO on their Starship predictions. I need that L2 one

[Anonymous No.15742209]

>>15742208
He could still be right just by coincidence

[Anonymous No.15742210]

>>15742187

[Anonymous No.15742212]

>>15742203
Nothing, I have to stop falling for this bait... but its SO TASTY

[Anonymous No.15742213]

>>15742198
You mean the smiles and the stern looks? I think that's meant to be Deke Slayton on the left.

[Anonymous No.15742215]

>>15742202
Can you give me a quick rundown on why he was overthrown

[Anonymous No.15742216]

>>15742209
Look at the post date nitwit

[Anonymous No.15742218]

>>15742213
Yep, in soviet russia photography is serious business.

[Anonymous No.15742221]

>>15741733
>>15742218
I mean that portrait has two russians, three americans, two smiling guys, and three stern guys. One of the Americans (Slayton) isn't smiling.

[Anonymous No.15742222]

>>15742208
Don't have a screenshot but Elon when he said it would launch in autumn of 2022

[Anonymous No.15742230]

>>15742215
there was a civil war. gaddafi's forces were winning and eventually pushed the rebels back to benghazi. i used to watch this streamer dude from there and he died the day that gaddafi's troops came. anyway, there was popular sentiment in the west and arab world for gaddafi to go, so nato led by france and america bombed the fuck out the government, which gave the people the chance to stick a knife in gaddafi's keister.

[Anonymous No.15742241]

DR SIAN LEO PROCTOR

[Anonymous No.15742242]

>>15742230
>>15742215
Go talk about geopolitics in >>>/pol/, or literally use fucking google you retard

[Anonymous No.15742247]

>>15742230
thanks for the qrd

[Anonymous No.15742251]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1702036289384575002

[Anonymous No.15742255]

>>15742119
he literally sounds drunk. is he on ketamine?

[Anonymous No.15742259]

>>15742255
he sounds like that most of the time

[Anonymous No.15742260]

>>15741493
Is virtual

[Anonymous No.15742262]

>>15742255
>is he on ketamine?
24/7/365

[Anonymous No.15742264]

>>15742255
Why? Because he's mispronouncing some letters?
>>15742262
It's possible to get a prescription for that?

[Anonymous No.15742268]

>>15742259
>>15742262
>>15742264
he sounds extra weird and a bit slurry

[Anonymous No.15742269]

>>15742264
If you have enough time and money to find the right doctor, it's possible to get a subscription for anything that isn't schedule 1 (and sometimes even then). So yes.

[Anonymous No.15742270]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MuI3sIStZs

[Anonymous No.15742274]

>>15742262
>>15742255
>>15742259
Meds now

[Anonymous No.15742277]

>>15742270
It's over. NSF has fallen.

[Anonymous No.15742278]

>>15742270
just disgusting

[Anonymous No.15742280]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1702040048449761290

[Anonymous No.15742281]

>>15741705
>21 tons to GTO without refuel

And this is from several years ago before the specs went up.

[Anonymous No.15742283]

>>15741572
Best Korea gaining Soyuz was not on my 2023 bingo card.

[Anonymous No.15742284]

>>15741504
cancellation after artemis 3

[Anonymous No.15742286]

>>15742280
No fucking shit, just launch it already

[Anonymous No.15742288]

>>15742269
Yeah 'mericans really love their drugs. Some people even get a meth (brand name Desoxyn) prescription

[Anonymous No.15742290]

>>15742270
if that guy on the left is Alex I've debated with him and he doesn't have a good understanding of rocket engines

[Anonymous No.15742291]

>>15742290
of course he doesn't. nsf is not technical at all. not even a little bit

[Anonymous No.15742296]

Check out these two gas turbine powered centrifugal pumps

[Anonymous No.15742298]

>>15742280
We're gonna make it bros.

[Anonymous No.15742303]

>>15742296
my attention is drawn to the diameter discrepancy between the turbine and the pumps.

[Anonymous No.15742306]

>>15742296
Wild how similar that looks to a V2 turbine/pumps.

[Anonymous No.15742314]

>>15742280

[Anonymous No.15742316]

>>15742314

[Anonymous No.15742319]

>Turbopumps have a reputation for being extremely hard to design to get optimal performance. Whereas a well engineered and debugged pump can manage 70–90% efficiency, figures less than half that are not uncommon. Low efficiency may be acceptable in some applications, but in rocketry this is a severe problem. Turbopumps in rockets are important and problematic enough that launch vehicles using one have been caustically described as a "turbopump with a rocket attached"–up to 55% of the total cost has been ascribed to this area.

Does someone have any information on the turbopump design of the Merlin/Raptor engines?

[Anonymous No.15742324]

>>15742280
Cool

[Anonymous No.15742335]

>>15742319
Picrel, unless you're asking for construction specifies; in which case, that's not something that's generally disclosed as that's a trade secret to SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.15742338]

>>15742335
>>15742319
It bears mentioning that this diagram itself is now obsolete, because all hydraulic related systems are deleted in favor of eTVCA. Plus additional changes to chamber, prop assembly, and other elements that's allowed them to reach 300bar and 272T thrust force, Raptor3, from 232T thrust force that R2s are at currently.

[Anonymous No.15742339]

Frank Rubio breaks NASA record of time in space, ULA extremely salty about Space Forces plan to select three national security launch providers, Space Force releasing information about how they will integrate commercial satellite services
----
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/a-nasa-astronaut-will-finally-spend-a-full-year-in-space/
> A NASA astronaut will finally spend a full year in space
> Because of the Soyuz leak, Rubio has now become the NASA astronaut with the longest continuous period of time in space. Last Monday, he broke the 355-day record set by Mark Vande Hei in 2021 and 2022, and when he lands later this month, Rubio will have spent 371 days in space.
----
https://spacenews.com/ula-has-no-issues-with-space-force-plan-to-select-three-national-security-launch-providers/
> ULA has ‘no issues’ with Space Force plan to select three national security launch providers
> Currently ULA and SpaceX are the only NSSL launch providers. The Space Force said it would like to work with three
> “From what we saw relative to Lane 2 and the addition of a third provider, we didn’t see any issues with that,” Wentz said during a panel discussion at the Global Aerospace Summit organized by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
> ULA’s CEO Tory Bruno in July expressed concerns about the Phase 3 strategy and said he was still reviewing the details. One of Bruno’s concerns was that “it’s not a competition if everybody wins.”
----
https://spacenews.com/space-force-to-release-guidelines-for-the-use-of-commercial-satellite-services/
> Space Force to release guidelines for the use of commercial satellite services
> Saltzman: ‘One way we are enhancing our relationships with commercial partners is through a soon to be released commercial space strategy’
> WASHINGTON — U.S. Chief of Space Operations Gen. Chance Saltzman said the Space Force is finalizing a blueprint for how it will integrate commercial satellite services into military activities.

[Anonymous No.15742341]

>>15742338
>eTVCA
add more letter cringelord

[Anonymous No.15742342]

>>15742341
Suck my fat space cock you earthen peasant.

[Anonymous No.15742343]

>>15742339
Friends, lend me your ears! I come bearing news of astounding feats beyond the heavens. Frank Rubio, noble astronaut of NASA, has shattered records, spending more days in space than any before him. 371 days he has drifted among the stars, far surpassing the prior 355 day record. This achievement comes not without sacrifice, as a leak aboard Soyuz extended his voyage. Let all applaud Rubio's valor!

In other celestial news, the mighty ULA voiced no qualms with the Space Force's decree to enlist three launch providers for security needs. While SpaceX joins ULA in this charge now, more shall be welcomed to this honored duty. Tory Bruno once worried this diluted competition, but now gives his blessing.

Finally, our eyes turn to the Space Force itself. Soon they shall release guidance on employing commercial satellites in their cosmic affairs. General Chance Saltzman tells of enhancing bonds with private partners through this strategy. Truly, space becomes more civilized with each passing year.

Rejoice, people of Earth, for humanity's reach expands! Our species ventures forth, no frontier out of grasp. Let the forums and markets buzz with excitement at these tidings from above!

[Anonymous No.15742345]

>>15742040

[Anonymous No.15742346]

>>15742339
>ULA’s CEO Tory Bruno in July expressed concerns about the Phase 3 strategy and said he was still reviewing the details. One of Bruno’s concerns was that “it’s not a competition if everybody wins.”

Fucking ironic, considering they hitched their survival to Blue Origin as being the engine provider for their entire rocket stack of the future. If another provider comes in with their own design, own engine IP, and is able to deliver a full stack faster than SpaceX, then they deserve to be awarded for their efforts. Tory should start pushing BO on more hardware rather than complain about how more competition is bad for their survival when they're 2-3 years behind schedule and haven't launched a gram to orbit with their next-generation vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15742348]

>>15742339
China undocks and burns up its fourth resupply mission pod, Soyuz rolls to the launch pad ahead of september 15th launch
---
https://www.space.com/china-tinazhou-5-cargo-spacecraft-reentry-earth-atmosphere
> China sends record-setting Tianzhou 5 cargo spacecraft to fiery death (video)
> The 29,760-pound (13,500 kilograms) spacecraft carried supplies for three astronauts on the Shenzhou 15 mission, experiments and materials, and propellant to keep Tiangong in its intended orbit.
> Tianzhou 5 was the fourth supply mission to Tiangong. In May it separated from the space station, spending 33 days in independent flight mode before re-docking with Tiangong once the Shenzhou 15 spacecraft had departed for Earth.
---
https://www.space.com/russia-ms-24-soyuz-rocket-rollout-photos
> Russia rolls Soyuz rocket to the pad ahead of Sept. 15 astronaut launch to ISS (photos)
> The rocket is poised to launch three members of the space station's Expedition 70 crew later this week.
> As a result of the Soyuz MS-22 leak, NASA astronaut Frank Rubio, and cosmonauts Sergey Prokopyev and Dmitry Petelin have all now spent an entire year in orbit, putting them alongside a select few human space travelers whose missions have lasted as long.

[Anonymous No.15742349]

[Anonymous No.15742351]

[Anonymous No.15742358]

>>15741921
21t GTO is the reusable config; you're trying to figure out the expendable config cost, for probably at least 30t GTO

[Anonymous No.15742359]

why does titan 4 look so damn cool? second only to the space shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15742360]

>>15742343
Ai generated shittery youre probably the same faggot that posts the ai generated images too arent you, never post ever again you worthless scum.

[Anonymous No.15742365]

>15742359
(You)

[Anonymous No.15742368]

>>15742346
Tory knows ULA relied on an artificial monopoly on NSSL launches.

[Anonymous No.15742371]

>>15742360
Hear ye, hear ye! Gather round, citizens, and lend me your ears, as I announce the latest tidings from the realm!

The noble astronaut Frank Rubio hath broken the records of old, spending more days in the heavens than any man before him - a stunning 371 days adrift among the stars! Verily, the length of his voyage exceeds that of Mark Vande Hei, he who previously held the title for longest unbroken journey through the void. Praise be to great Neptune, god of the seas, for safeguarding brave Rubio on his epic travels beyond the sky's reach!

In other affairs, tension brews between the merchant ships of SpaceX and the galleons of ULA, both seeking to ferry cargo for the mighty Space Legion. Though in past times only two vessels were granted the honor, the Legion now wishes to appoint a third ship to join the convoys. This decision stirs debate among the captains, each eager to profit from the Legion's coin. Yet the cunning Tory Bruno of ULA plots patiently, wary of too freely sharing the bounties of space.

Finally, word comes from the chief magistrate Saltzman of the Space Legion, who soon reveals a charter for integrating services from civilian trade ships into the Legion's own expeditions. Through shrewd diplomacy and exchange of knowledge, the soldiers of the void hope to strengthen bonds with their commercial allies sailing the seas of night.

And so the heavens churn with activity! What glories or dangers await as man journeys deeper into the twinkling void? Only the Fates know for certain. But fear not - by land or stars, Rome shall endure!

[Anonymous No.15742372]

>>15742343
lel

[Anonymous No.15742375]

>>15742360
You stand out like a sore thumb

[Anonymous No.15742380]

>>15742338
thanks. Do you maybe know what material they are using for the turbine, or any competitors?

[Anonymous No.15742381]

>>15742360
fuck off newfag

[Anonymous No.15742384]

>>15742349
Doesn't Vande Hei hold the US record only because Soyuz tried to die an hero?
Also these records are pathetically low for a government/agency that claims it wants to have permanent deep space/lunar/martian presence

[Anonymous No.15742386]

>>15742221
I miss leonov like you wouldn't believe

[Anonymous No.15742388]

>>15742359
The bigger Titan rockets were all gorgeous I don't think anyone disagrees with that

[Anonymous No.15742392]

>>15742388
Fighter jet ejection seat LES, pretty sure you would have just died if you needed to abort lmfao

[Anonymous No.15742393]

>>15742386

[Anonymous No.15742396]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdGyRyXgcCU

How to GUESS when Starship will LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.15742399]

>remember wanting to find out the record for the longest time a rocket has sat on the pad
>found this information easily years ago
>can't remember it so I go and Google it
>just endless news articles about Saturn V, Artemis, and Starship
>try DDG
>same thing

I fucking hate the internet now. It's ruined. Why can't I literally just find basic information anymore?

[Anonymous No.15742403]

>>15742359
>>15742388
Pull up!!!

[Anonymous No.15742404]

>>15742380
You think people with a modicum of intelligence are going to disclose trade secrets on a Cambodian palm tree cutting forum and risk getting lined up for Bubba's next cock ride carousel in prison for 20 years?

[Anonymous No.15742405]

>>15742399
because serving ads is more profitable

[Anonymous No.15742406]

>>15742392
something strangely aesthetic about the dual nozzle

[Anonymous No.15742408]

>>15742399
I had the exact same problem a year ago. I remember everyone memeing on DIVH sitting on the pad for like, over a year. Go to google it. Can't find shit
Today, I remembered some cool twitter post about the size comparison of a WW2 B-17 or B-24 with a modern-day F-15 or F-18 or something. Go to google it. Use keywords. "WW2 bomber" "modern fighter" "twitter". I tried everything. It just pulls up the most bullshit CLICK THIS! websites. Only spat out like three twitter options every time and it was only for users, not even posts. The internet sucks

[Anonymous No.15742410]

>>15742399
Ok don't ask Bing, it's retarded

[Anonymous No.15742411]

>>15742392
>>Fighter jet ejection seat
Were they actually? I thought they were custom for Gemini. I know Weber built them but I can't find much more information about them.

[Anonymous No.15742412]

>>15742410
23 year scrub, thanks Bing. Very cool!

[Anonymous No.15742413]

[Anonymous No.15742418]

>>15742410
>ask simple question
>"oh geez I'm sorry you feel so depressed I know life must suck for you"
Kill all robots.

[Anonymous No.15742423]

>>15742410
bing is really bad at anything involving the slightest bit of math, dates or logic
another reason is this kind of information is just not that readily available but you can work it out if you were through a list of every soviet, us and chinese launches... ever.

[Anonymous No.15742424]

[Anonymous No.15742426]

[Anonymous No.15742428]

>>15742423
>>another reason is this kind of information is just not that readily available but you can work it out if you were through a list of every soviet, us and chinese launches... ever.
That's the kind of tedious bitchwork AIs should be good at if they are any use at all (they evidently aren't.)

[Anonymous No.15742430]

Why the fuck was this nork-russian summit held at vostochny, of all places lol

[Anonymous No.15742435]

>>15742426
>guns firing Pu-239 marbles that are so close to the critical mass that they cause nuclear explosions on impact.
Ridiculous, storing that ammunition without accidentally forming a criticality in your own ship would be infeasible.

[Anonymous No.15742436]

>>15742430
I wonder if any russian spaceflight autists tried to impress my queen with their rocket

[Anonymous No.15742439]

>>15742430
I think the implication was "ICBMs"

[Anonymous No.15742441]

>>15742430
to show the norks that russia still knows how to build things and didn't just inherit old infrastructure from the soviet union?
or because they want the norks to rent the space for their own rockets, since russia is barely using it?

[Anonymous No.15742443]

>>15742436
I’ll show her around starbase

[Anonymous No.15742444]

>>15742430
They are THAT desperate for a partner to split costs with after all but burning their USA partnership bridge

[Anonymous No.15742446]

>>15742435
they go critical at a 50km/s impact anon I think it'll be fine

[Anonymous No.15742449]

>>15741956
More historical engines set to go in the drink?

[Anonymous No.15742448]

>>15742444

[Anonymous No.15742450]

>>15742435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVhOy3mWQQ

[Anonymous No.15742451]

>>15742446
how densely packed can you store them in the ship's magazines? Even if you fill the space between them with a neutron poison, I think you won't get good storage density from them.

[Anonymous No.15742453]

>>15742399
Yeah it really got but and I don't know why. Best thing this information is available on some random space forum like NSF but google just keeps showing shitty news articles.

Chatgpt says it doesn't know but it notes that Columbia sat on the pad once for 68 days.
>For example, the Space Shuttle Columbia once experienced a delay of 68 days between its original scheduled launch date on March 19, 1980, and its actual launch on May 19, 1980, due to technical problems and weather-related issues.

[Anonymous No.15742456]

>>15742262
>Elon says he knows some people who have treated their depression with ketamine
>"BREAKING: ELON MUSK MICRODOSES KETAMINE NEWS AT 11"

[Anonymous No.15742457]

>>15742449
I have so, SO much to hate SLS for. But honestly, as long as they keep at least a few SSMEs and AJ-10s around I am fine with them expending the reused shuttle ones. Yes expendable rockets are gay—but at least the engines are getting one last hoorah instead of sitting in a warehouse or rocket garden collecting rust
Does it justify expendable rockets? No. Does it redeem SLS? No. But I am fine with a viking funeral

[Anonymous No.15742459]

Elon: AI is an existential thread
AI: >>15742410

[Anonymous No.15742462]

>>15742457
Remember the Apollo program and how that ended up in the clickbait headlines of "We forgot the tech for going to the moon".

[Anonymous No.15742463]

>>15742430

[Anonymous No.15742464]

>>15742459
It's an existential threat by extension of people actually using the shit it coughs up as gospel truth.
That's the real danger of "AI".

[Anonymous No.15742465]

>>15742459
>Elon: AI is an existential thread
>AI: >>15742410 #

[Anonymous No.15742467]

>>15742465
Fuck off back to sharty, you're neither clever or funny.
Oh wait, you can't.

[Anonymous No.15742471]

>>15742467
just don't reply to him

[Anonymous No.15742475]

>>15742467
Stop posting reddit tier shit

[Anonymous No.15742481]

[Anonymous No.15742482]

>>15741705
how old is this? starship is realistically at 150 tonnes to leo now with all the raptor improvements?

[Anonymous No.15742483]

>>15742481
Rogozin punching air right now

[Anonymous No.15742486]

>>15742482
realistically its at 100 now.
gotta account for the reality distortion field

[Anonymous No.15742490]

>>15742481
Mark my words: Kim is not leaving that facility without a set of (at the minimum) RD-107

[Anonymous No.15742491]

>>15742481
NK has been trying to do spy satellite shit lately, do they even have the funds or the people to launch this shit? The last two rockets blew up didnt they?

[Anonymous No.15742496]

>>15742491
have they made any progress since the tumbling webcam in space

[Anonymous No.15742497]

>>15741827
Lol no, most of those areas are incredibly lightly populated, especially appalachia.

[Anonymous No.15742498]

they're gonna load the engines on Kim's train aren't they

[Anonymous No.15742500]

>That capsule that was supposed to go on Ariane 6's first flight has been moved to a PSLV launch next January.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/13/the-european-company-signs-agreements-with-axiom-indian-space-research-organization/

[Anonymous No.15742501]

>>15742481
To be a fly on the wall. Surely Kim looked at all the stuff at vostochny and got excited? How could someone see rocket hardware and thing "this is boring"

[Anonymous No.15742503]

>>15742280
B4/S20 for comparison. Thats ALLOT more people

[Anonymous No.15742504]

>>15742500
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[Anonymous No.15742507]

>>15742500
Good morning, sirs. Jai hind Bharat > EESA

[Anonymous No.15742506]

>>15742503
How did this few people make B4 & S20 anyways? God damn, I could believe the more recent one but they mustve had some real troopers when starting out.

[Anonymous No.15742508]

>>15742171
why is kot here this isn't kpg

[Anonymous No.15742510]

>>15742500
Why is India getting all the goodies?

[Anonymous No.15742513]

>>15742386

[Anonymous No.15742514]

>>15742510
Because they are in a position of neutrality and being able to work with both Russia and the US opens up allot more opportunities to them, as well as their government actually caring about ISRO since its such good PR.

[Anonymous No.15742518]

>>15742507
>>15742510

[Anonymous No.15742534]

hear me out... russian-north korean space station

[Anonymous No.15742537]

>>15742457
Deliberately expending even a single SSME is gravely disrespectful.

[Anonymous No.15742538]

https://x.com/starshipgazer/status/1702076954868916397
Its over

[Anonymous No.15742540]

>>15742538
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/faa-could-advance-spacex-starship-license-soon-october-2023-09-13/

why the fuck

[Anonymous No.15742544]

>>15742540
> WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (Reuters) - The acting head of the Federal Aviation Administration said on Wednesday the agency could advance a launch license as early as next month for the SpaceX Starship rocket after a prior one exploded following a test launch in April.

> "We're working well with them and have been in good discussions. Teams are working together and I think we're optimistic sometime next month," acting FAA Administrator Polly Trottenberg told reporters on the sidelines of a conference.

> SpaceX would still need a separate environmental approval from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service before a launch. Trottenberg did not say how long that might take.

[Anonymous No.15742545]

>>15742538
>>15742540
>inb4 it happens earlier

[Anonymous No.15742546]

>>15742540
Thank the envirofags. MUH BEETLES MUH PLOVERS actually worked. Its over

[Anonymous No.15742548]

TWO
MORE
WEEKS

[Anonymous No.15742550]

>>15742548
16 more days at least

[Anonymous No.15742555]

Billions must wait.

[Anonymous No.15742557]

>>15741772
>Possibly
Rumor has it they got actual intact ICBMs from Russia already, but I'm not a glowie

[Anonymous No.15742562]

FAA license I believe October, FWS license I believe Q3 2024

[Anonymous No.15742563]

>>15742562
October 14, Im telling you guys

[Anonymous No.15742565]

I'm so sick of seeing the AYY photo on twitter
feels like the algorithm is getting worse, promoting clickbait horseshit even if I purposefully click I'm not interested

[Anonymous No.15742566]

>>15742562
>FWS license I believe Q3 2024
delusional. but also elon would literally launch without it

[Anonymous No.15742568]

>Just 14 more days, give or take 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15742569]

>>15742565
This isn’t /twitter general/ you fucking homo

[Anonymous No.15742576]

>>15742568
>you got a license for that rocket sir? just a routine stop need to make sure no beetles are getting disintegrated

[Anonymous No.15742579]

>>15742163
Claustrophobia or cabin fever, take your pick

Some people will literally go insane in enclosed spaces without any outward indications they are susceptible to this. It's a documented phenomenon that happens all the time. Just recently some dude tried to open the door on an airplane in flight.

[Anonymous No.15742582]

>>15742040
Wut

[Anonymous No.15742585]

>>15742568
>you got a license for that rocket sir? just a routine stop need to make sure no beetles are getting disintegrated

[Anonymous No.15742590]

Didn't they already get a license from those fish guys? Why do they need another one?

[Anonymous No.15742592]

>>15742582
ELON GOAT

[Anonymous No.15742593]

>>15742590
you got a license extension for that license mate?

[Anonymous No.15742607]

>>15742170
I got my whole family up early and dragged them into the den to watch the launch, we sat around eating coffee cake in our pajamas and talked about rockets, it was fun. For the rest of Christmas vacation I had "where is webb" open pretty much all the time, and my grandmother kept asking me, "Is your space thing still going alright?" as the unfolding and cooling was going on.

[Anonymous No.15742608]

>>15742590
>that license is no longer valid, you have to comply with the new standards we- i mean the FWS set 5 minutes ago. go get a new license or whatever

[Anonymous No.15742613]

So it was true... Biden admin forced FAA to delay SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.15742617]

I knew it was a bad sign when the news stopped and all NOTMAR notices were deleted.

[Anonymous No.15742619]

>>15742613
FWS is more likely to do this, I think FAA is getting it done ASAP. Defintely not the beetlecels though

[Anonymous No.15742622]

TOTAL BEETLE DEATH

[Anonymous No.15742623]

I was really hoping for a friday license and now i have to wait 3 fucking weeks ?? Fuck them fuck the glowies fuck Joe .

They will not stop the dream . Every day we are closer to interplanetary travel .

[Anonymous No.15742629]

>>15742623
>just two more weeks, its for this birds safety arent you happy about that??

[Anonymous No.15742633]

DRAIN THE SWAMP
TOTAL BEETLE DEATH

[Anonymous No.15742637]

>>15742619
That would make sense, many envirofags are mentally installed cultists.

[Anonymous No.15742639]

[Anonymous No.15742640]

>>15742637
an enviro group recently committed some arson in Germany against Tesla and burned like 15 vehicles

[Anonymous No.15742641]

>>15742637
*unstable
stupid phoneposter

[Anonymous No.15742648]

Just looking at the stuff SpaceX has to do to get a launch site in the middle of nowhere approved makes me glad that scam spaceport in Georgia never got approved. That one would have never worked

[Anonymous No.15742654]

>>15741766
It was and still is only useful for a niche market of rich off-grid rural desert-dwellers and maybe aeoroplane esports. Satellites which disintegrate after 5 years and the low-altitude means thousands of satellites need to be launched every year to maintain any real coverage. It's nothing more than corporate masturbation.

[Anonymous No.15742657]

>>15742654
3/10

[Anonymous No.15742658]

>>15742654
Muh latency

[Anonymous No.15742659]

>>15742654
>rich
the way it's priced now, it's viable for the rural american middle class.

>inb4 anybody who isn't dirt poor living paycheck to paycheck is "the rich"

[Anonymous No.15742661]

>>15742654
But Starlink is already making money

[Anonymous No.15742664]

Kek

[Anonymous No.15742669]

>>15742664
Shoo we're doomposting right now

[Anonymous No.15742671]

>>15742664

[Anonymous No.15742673]

>>15742664
Wolfenstein

[Anonymous No.15742677]

>>15742654
everything you said is wrong, lmaoo
with the exeception of thousand of satellites having to be launched every year
that is part of why they are doing this in the first place retard, so Starship has something to do and they can iterate it while they upkeep the Starlink network

[Anonymous No.15742678]

>>15742664
DR VON BRAUN GET IN HERE

[Anonymous No.15742681]

So we're at "it's over" stage again.

[Anonymous No.15742686]

>>15742681
Past performance is no indication of future returns
>/sfg/ prospectus for 4ASS

[Anonymous No.15742702]

>>15742686
Performance of /sfg/ is very predictable.

[Anonymous No.15742705]

>>15742681
Take a guess.

[Anonymous No.15742708]

RGV should be firebombed.

[Anonymous No.15742710]

>>15742708
Kek why

[Anonymous No.15742711]

>>15742710
No birds, no beetles, no problem.

[Anonymous No.15742713]

>>15742582

[Anonymous No.15742714]

>>15742582
SpaceX is satanic.

[Anonymous No.15742718]

The heck is this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idJKLP5hcuQ

[Anonymous No.15742722]

>>15742718
a mistake

[Anonymous No.15742755]

>>15742582
its some british soccer team's logo

[Anonymous No.15742760]

>>15742418
...and then of course I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side...

[Anonymous No.15742765]

>>15742540
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRgB1I3HNYg

[Anonymous No.15742767]

>>15742760
>brain the size of a galaxy
>can't be bothered to help Arthur figure out how get the ship to make tea
what the hell was this guys problem

[Anonymous No.15742768]

>>15742464
The real real danger is that midwits will assume AI must be correct because everybody says so, and the put them in charge of everything, then all of society falls apart within months as everything breaks.

[Anonymous No.15742769]

>>15742768
This is the foremost problem with these AIs right now. Retards trusting them, even when they talk obvious nonsense.

[Anonymous No.15742773]

>>15741818
I like how you can clearly see the radio quiet zone in W.Va.

[Anonymous No.15742796]

>>15742491
Just read this on the wikipedia article of the summit
>When asked if Russia would help North Korea build satellites, Putin said “that’s why [they] came here."

[Anonymous No.15742798]

>>15741827
The northern edge is near the main orbital inclination of Starlink, orbits linger there longer, so you get more coverage density. As for the western edge, look at population maps of the US, interstate 35 roughly follows the line where it drops off.

[Anonymous No.15742820]

Remember when the 63 requirements came out and I said it was over and we wouldn't launch this month like 6 general ago and anons told me
>b-but th-they are working with the FAA and SpaceX are the ones who are not ready!
>the FAA has nothing to do with the delays fucking idiot
>launch is happening soon trust the plan
Today I'm gonna use a salmon as a fleshlight in honor of the Fish and Wildlife Services

[Anonymous No.15742826]

>>15742820
>b-but th-they are working with the FAA and SpaceX are the ones who are not ready!
>>the FAA has nothing to do with the delays fucking idiot
>>launch is happening soon trust the plan
all true

[Anonymous No.15742829]

>>15742303
Leverage allows the relatively low pressure gas in the turbine to drive the liquid propellants up to higher pressures than the turbine gas.

[Anonymous No.15742834]

more bad news, starlink is in the process of being nationalized
https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-cede-starlink-access-210000355.html

[Anonymous No.15742839]

>>15742834
>yahoo
Tesla shortseller network lmao

[Anonymous No.15742840]

>>15742834
>“What he did, which I think is the right outcome, is he decided to sell and give total control of a certain amount of Starlink equipment, Starlink services to the U.S. military, so that he no longer controls the geofencing, he no longer controls the terms of use,” said Isaacson.

Not in the slightest, lmao

[Anonymous No.15742862]

>>15742451
You would probably need to keep each one roughly 25cm apart or several cm apart with a good neutron poison between them to prevent criticality in a bulk storage unit, however the very concept of a "microscopic plutonium pellet so close to critical mass it fissions on impact" is nonphysical. Any microscopic amount of any fissile material would not be a critical mass, the smallest critical mass fissile radioisotope still requires a few hundred grams IIRC. The "forms a critical mass while compressed on impact at 50 km/s" part is more reasonable though.

[Anonymous No.15742866]

>>15742820
Both the mishap investigation and the launch license are a collaborative effort of SpaceX and the FAA (and consulting agencies sometimes). If SpaceX wanted to launch again sooner, not have to do a lengthy mishap investigation, and not raise even more scrutiny from other agencies they shouldn't have blown up the launch pad and not even gotten to stage separation. They chose to not wait for the steel plate so now they're reaping the consequences. This is also still quite a quick turnaround for the second launch of a new rocket.

[Anonymous No.15742885]

>>15742866
Their choice was the correct one. They would have finished the install of the plate only a little while ago regardless, and still had to proof test it yadda yadda, plus they actually got lucky the whole stack didn't veer into the launch tower when those outer engines didn't run.
Our timeline is the one where they got the early launch in, dodged the tower-immolation bullet, oh and also they found out they didn't have enough piles under the pad to prevent liquefaction from the vibrations.

[Anonymous No.15742886]

>>15742834
everyone secretly knows that starlink is a desperate venture to massively increase SpaceX income for starship which in reality is never going to make a profit, so if Elon can scam the government by selling starlink to them its genius.

[Anonymous No.15742896]

Apparently SpaceX has completed 57 of the 63 items required to satisfy the FAA so they can launch. What are the odds they launch this week? Next week?

[Anonymous No.15742903]

>>15742896
>What are the odds they launch this week
Only happens if Elon makes some kind of concession to the administration. Otherwise they'll drag their feet in typical bureaucrat fashion—not even out of malice, just laziness.

[Anonymous No.15742904]

>>15742896
FAA says October, therefore November earliest, but more likely April 2024

[Anonymous No.15742919]

>>15742538
is there any predictability and procedure with this shit at all? Just confusing and demoralizing bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15742922]

Fuck the FWS

[Anonymous No.15742926]

>>15742386

[Anonymous No.15742927]

>>15742544
>>15742540
This before or after Elon's visit to FAA

HMMMMMM

[Anonymous No.15742963]

>>15741542

[Anonymous No.15742977]

>>15742926
Respect the sword.

[Anonymous No.15742979]

DEMONS

[Anonymous No.15742981]

>>15742979
WtFUCK THAT'S THE NEW STARSHIP LOGO???

[Anonymous No.15742988]

>>15742979
>elonGOATed

[Anonymous No.15742989]

>>15742979
>goat
This is satanic occultism. I would tread very carefully.

[Anonymous No.15742990]

>>15742919
welcome to dealing with government

[Anonymous No.15742996]

>>15742885
Yeah but then you don't get to complain about the FAA slowing things down, it isn't their fault the launch happened the way it did and required such an extensive mishap investigation. SpaceX made a choice for earlier data at higher risk, the result is a longer return to flight because there's more to fix and make sure it doesn't happen again.

>>15742919
Yes
Submit the license modification request (we don't know if SpaceX has done this yet, but probably yes) and associated safety actions
Have the FAA look over the numbers and agree with them, back and forth for clarification and change requests until both sides agree the public is kept safe with the requested parameters
Verify that action items from the mishap report are completed and have the FAA sign off on them
Wait for consulting agencies to concur for any issues under their purview, back and forth again until satisfied
Receive license modification
Request launch date
Set up safety perimeters as defined (NOTAMS etc.)
Get FAA inspector on site
Launch
>confusing and demoralizing bullshit
No, just proper process to make sure everything is in line with expectations and risks are minimised if something unexpected happens.

>>15742922
I bet they wouldn't be saying anything if the pad failure hadn't strewn concrete everywhere. Entirely of SpaceX's own making.

[Anonymous No.15743001]

[Anonymous No.15743003]

https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/13/the-european-company-signs-agreements-with-axiom-indian-space-research-organization/

>The company is aiming to conduct an initial demonstration mission using a prototype called Bikini in January 2024. That mission was originally scheduled to fly with Arianespace’s Ariane 6 in the fall of this year, but due to delays with that launch vehicle, The Exploration Company decided to move to the Indian Space Research Organization’s Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle.

Now ISRO is stealing ESA launches because of how fucked Ariane 6 is.

[Anonymous No.15743004]

>>15742979
can't wait to see /pol/ go ballistic over this

[Anonymous No.15743011]

>>15742996
>you don't get to complain about the FAA slowing things down
I didn't

[Anonymous No.15743012]

>>15743003
lol esa

[Anonymous No.15743013]

>>15742979
thunder
thunder!
Thundergoats, HOOOO

[Anonymous No.15743016]

>>15743003
It's a shame that Dragon's unpressurized cargo service area can't be mecha-shift converted into a useful pressurized volume. Basically undock capsule, flip 180, dock with "volume", have all the benefits of the power it generates w/ extra habitation and experimentation capacity during time spent in space.

[Anonymous No.15743028]

>>15742996
>I bet they wouldn't be saying anything if the pad failure hadn't strewn concrete everywhere.
Why is it the FAA's business what happens to SpaceX's launch pad? If it blows up it's their own problem, and SpaceX is obviously going to fix it on their own. And even if they decided to use an expendable launchpad, why the fuck does the FAA care? The federal government lacks jurisdiction since what minimal disruption that caused to anyone besides SpaceX is entirely limited to Texas.

[Anonymous No.15743037]

>>15742430
The fatso only travels by train going 50kmh. That was the nearest point.

[Anonymous No.15743043]

>>15743016
It wouldn't be worth it, the volume penalty imposed by the pressure vessel plus the docking equipment would make it the size of a closet at best

[Anonymous No.15743044]

>>15743003
SpaceX carrying private astronauts, NASA astronauts, European Astronauts, Indian Astronauts, Saudi Astronauts, etc

[Anonymous No.15743056]

>>15743011
Alright, wasn't sure since the Anon I was replying to was so I continued that thought.

>>15743028
That point specifically referred to the FWS. The FAA indeed probably cares little since any debris is most likely going to come down in the exclusion zone, although they'll care about whether it'll happen again to know whether it needs to be added to the expected effects of a launch. Similarly, the FWS wants to know if it'll happen again since that'd need to be added to the PEA as an additional effect, although the consultation in question here is more likely about what did happen last time and making sure the potential effects of another pad failure are properly assessed since that wasn't done in the PEA if I recall correctly.

[Anonymous No.15743072]

>>15743004
can't wait for a hylic to ignore what's right in front of him

[Anonymous No.15743074]

>>15742430
Because North Korea is interested in rocket tech in trade for munitions to supply Russia's war effort.

[Anonymous No.15743144]

>>15742324
>makes old tech fucking worse
>spends billions
>schedule delayed the length of an entire career
what part of "engineering" SLS should be taken as proof of competence?

[Anonymous No.15743174]

>>15742384
Aren't they constrained by a few things? They are now quite sure of long term microgravity effects on bones, blood, and organs. At least the radiation dose is not a problem, they take ~320mSv over a year on the ISS and the lifetime limit is much higher than that

[Anonymous No.15743213]

>>15742503
I RECOGNIZE THAT GAY BLOWJOB

[Anonymous No.15743223]

>>15743213
2lewd

[Anonymous No.15743280]

Pretty soon, the SEC is gonna start having UFO hearings.

[Anonymous No.15743297]

Is there a map of how far away you'd be able to see Starship along its flight path?

[Anonymous No.15743318]

>>15742324
First of all, give a link to the blogpost, I want to read more SLS cope. Second of all why is a NASA engineer scared of re-entry safety when Starship is using materials that are way more suitable for re-entry?

[Anonymous No.15743322]

>>15742338
>eTVCA
Seems kinda underpowered. You'd need to go for ETVCA at least for something like Starship. Maybe even Etvca

[Anonymous No.15743328]

>>15742343
>Rubio
Should be Rubius, we're not Vulgar Latin speaking plebs

[Anonymous No.15743340]

>>15743328
The real roman news poster is gone, unfortunately. Only cheap imitations remain.

[Anonymous No.15743350]

>wake up
>check /k/
>russian shit blowing up
>dopamine
>check /sci/
>STILL no launch license
what is the opposite of dopamine

[Anonymous No.15743351]

>>15742360
Kill yourself, we're busy having fun over here

[Anonymous No.15743356]

>>15742713
why is JPL so racist?

[Anonymous No.15743358]

>>15743350
Serotonin?

[Anonymous No.15743366]

>>15743356
commie mindset

[Anonymous No.15743371]

>>15743350
Melatonin or antipsychotics.

[Anonymous No.15743376]

>>15743003
that's a one slippery rocket
the launch date just keeps on slipping

[Anonymous No.15743379]

>>15743371
Melatonin is very effective in boosting your mood by giving you deep proper sleep.

[Anonymous No.15743383]

>>15743358
>>15743371
serotonin or cortisol fits
also fuck the faa

[Anonymous No.15743385]

>>15743383
FUCK THE FAA

[Anonymous No.15743391]

>>15743350
Should stay on /k/ope
You just shit up /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15743446]

>>15743350
>/k/reature
But /k/ was invaded and annexed by Reddit in and around 2018-2022

[Anonymous No.15743483]

>>15741476
Anyone else excited for RocketLabs recent acquisition. They just bought Virgin Orbits 144000sqfr facility to build engines in. And for only 16.1million far below its worth. How significant is this for them?

[Anonymous No.15743493]

guys please tell me when is SOMETHING going to happen in spaceflight
I can't fucking take it anymore

[Anonymous No.15743499]

https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1702122741829169302

[Anonymous No.15743500]

>>15743493
Tomorrow a batch of astronauts fly with the Soyuz to drink their own piss on ISS.

[Anonymous No.15743502]

>>15743493
When you decide to finally build your own interplanetary rocket. Chop-chop, get to it.

[Anonymous No.15743504]

>>15743500
Not only their own

[Anonymous No.15743531]

https://twitter.com/shivon/status/1701723227184119842/

why aren't you out there fathering 10+ kids?

[Anonymous No.15743538]

>>15743531
the same reason I browse this imageboard

[Anonymous No.15743548]

>>15743531
If I had money I would. I think I can afford 2 tho

[Anonymous No.15743554]

>*faa license has been delayed to october*
>spacex: "fine we'll wait, whats a few weeks?"
>*also the government is shutting down in october 1 LOL"
>biden: *licks icecream*

[Anonymous No.15743565]

https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1702234011165188205

[Anonymous No.15743567]

just two more weeks so that my NET october prediction is right

[Anonymous No.15743569]

>>15743554
Debt ceiling have been removed, government will never shut down.

[Anonymous No.15743572]

>>15743567
Two more weeks is the most accurate prediction for anything

[Anonymous No.15743576]

>>15743572
more accurate than 2 decades?

[Anonymous No.15743587]

>>15743576
Yes, 2 decades is boomer lanuage

[Anonymous No.15743588]

>>15743567
I knew that they would be shooting for mid-September but the FAA would inevitably delay it Two Weeks™. Octoberfags we keep on winning

[Anonymous No.15743611]

>>15743576

[Anonymous No.15743630]

Starlink resellers have trouble keeping up with SpaceX; New SES CEO answering questions about previous CEO departure,technical problems on O3b mPower satellites and partnership with Starlink, Putin meets Kim Jong-un at Vostochny Cosmodrome
----
https://spacenews.com/rapid-starlink-iteration-poses-challenges-for-resellers/
> Rapid Starlink iteration poses challenges for resellers
> TAMPA, Fla. — SpaceX’s ability to quickly change and update services has been awkward for resellers, an executive for the low Earth orbit (LEO) broadband constellation said Sep. 13.
> After initially solely focusing on selling directly to consumers, Starlink opened up to reseller channels about a year ago to help expand into markets including maritime, energy, and aviation.
-----
https://spacenews.com/ses-qa-leveling-up-multi-orbit-connectivity/
> SES Q&A | Leveling up multi-orbit connectivity
> Multi-orbit satellite operator SES is on the verge of realizing key strategic goals that have been years in the making.
> It was interesting to see SES partner with Starlink in the cruise market, which has been a stronghold for you. How did that deal come about?
> Our customers in the cruise market have been saying, look, the market is evolving, we have the demand, we would like to have the Starlink capability available for our ships — and quite frankly, we are going to do it whether you want it or not.
----
https://www.space.com/putin-north-korea-kim-summit-vostochny-cosmodrome
> Vladimir Putin meets North Korea's Kim Jong-un at Russia's Vostochny Cosmodrome spaceport for 5-hour summit
> Russian President Vladimir Putin met with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at a spaceport on Wednesday (Sept. 13), likely discussing a range of possibilities for space-related cooperation.
> Reporter and author Anatoly Zak, who runs RussianSpaceWeb.com, tweeted that a short-duration orbital joint crewed mission on a Russian Soyuz spacecraft was one speculative possibility.

[Anonymous No.15743635]

[Anonymous No.15743637]

>>15743630
Chinese military sets up additional space object tracking base; HawkEeye 360 (a RF imagining and tracking constellation) is trending towards profitable
----
https://spacenews.com/chinas-military-sets-up-new-base-for-space-domain-awareness/
> China’s military sets up new base for space domain awareness
> HELSINKI — The People’s Liberation Army has established new facilities to improve its space domain awareness capabilities, according to a report.
> The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Strategic Support Force’s (SSF) new Base 37 is charged with boosting missile early warning capabilities and identifying, tracking and analyzing foreign space objects, according to the report published by the China Aerospace Studies Institute Sept. 11.
> The report’s initial analysis does not reveal Base 37 to have a role in operating on-orbit systems, such as satellites reported to be fleeing, imaging and approaching U.S. satellites. It does not operate China’s robotic arm-equipped movable satellites like Shijian-21, which towed a defunct satellite to a GEO graveyard orbit, and Shijian-17. The report however confirms it is active in integrating and analyzing related data.
-----
https://spacenews.com/hawkeye-360-reaches-inflection-point-on-path-to-profitability/
> HawkEye 360 reaches inflection point on path to profitability
> PARIS — With a recent funding round and growing demand for its radio-frequency geolocation capabilities, HawkEye 360’s chief executive says the company has reached an “inflection point” on the path towards profitability and potentially going public.
> Governments remain the largest customers for HawkEye 360, which Serafini said will likely be the case for the foreseeable future. That has included defense and intelligence applications as well as some civil and broader security applications, like tracking illegal fishing or deforestation.

[Anonymous No.15743640]

>>15743637
https://europeanspaceflight.com/european-industry-could-generate-e9-9-billion-from-crewed-launch/

[Anonymous No.15743644]

https://twitter.com/CJHandmer/status/1701698714912580046
Why does /sfg/ cup this guys balls? He's dishonest

[Anonymous No.15743646]

>>15743644
I don't think that is really a correct characerization
I would describe the general attitude towards Handmer being ambivalent
also what you posted is not spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15743649]

[Anonymous No.15743650]

>>15743644
>He's dishonest
he's right. no fundamental limit to solar cell cost. it'll plummet for years to come

[Anonymous No.15743651]

>>15743649
most useful synthetic aperture radar satellite

[Anonymous No.15743666]

>>15743650
Now the Northeast just needs energy storage to cope with a month of this

[Anonymous No.15743668]

>>15743666
>energy storage
casey has the solution

[Anonymous No.15743677]

>>15741579
I wasn't around in the 50s

[Anonymous No.15743679]

What's a good CAD program to learn if I want to work in aero-space?

[Anonymous No.15743682]

>>15743679
NX and solidworks

[Anonymous No.15743686]

>>15741579

[Anonymous No.15743694]

>>15743679
Catia

[Anonymous No.15743707]

https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1702272591258362096

[Anonymous No.15743717]

Happy to see them scaling up

[Anonymous No.15743734]

>>15743650
>China
we just need to store it somehow

[Anonymous No.15743736]

>>15743707

[Anonymous No.15743740]

>>15743644
Why the fuck is New England still so many different states? It should've been merged into one state a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.15743743]

>The domes were made by Spincraft, and SX accidentally got an email (part of a long chain that the sender didn't check before sending) where ULA ordered Spincraft to put the squeeze on SX in pricing and delayed deliveries.
https://twitter.com/SoldTheMoon/status/1702021747057557780
Are ULA really that slimy?

[Anonymous No.15743745]

>>15743734
>we just need to store it somehow
synthetic natural gas.

[Anonymous No.15743748]

>>15743743
yes

[Anonymous No.15743751]

>>15743740
They all still hate each other 300 years after their foundings

[Anonymous No.15743752]

what's there to look forward to until we get an FAA license? surely there has to be something interesting happening in spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.15743755]

>>15743752
there isn't

[Anonymous No.15743759]

>>15743752
this is completely off topic
but if you have autism and need something to tide you over for 2 weeks, there is going to be a 10k speedrunning challenge starting on Sunday, 4th time one of these is being done by MoistCritikal/penguinz0/charlie

first one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFY1bUHBKfI

second one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSt61xaqWY0

third one (official video about the aftermath is not out yet but I expect it to come out on Sunday when the new challenge drops)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLtBc3iKcs

[Anonymous No.15743761]

>Sep 15 - manned Soyuz to the ISS
>Oct 5 - Falcon Heavy, Virgin Galactic >>15743717

its fucking dead

[Anonymous No.15743793]

Reminder that the Eagle ascent stage and the Snoopy descent stage are still in LLO

[Anonymous No.15743808]

>>15743793
>only 10km above mean radius
Nah they're splattered on a tall crater rim somewhere now

[Anonymous No.15743811]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1702272888689115636

[Anonymous No.15743830]

>>15743752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUg1vaZe7w

[Anonymous No.15743833]

>>15743565
they have to destack S25 to arm the FTS, which hasn't been done yet
there was maybe 1 week at most between FTS arming and OFT-1, so I think we're officially inside of the TWO WEEKS window now

[Anonymous No.15743843]

>>15743830
total vtuber death

[Anonymous No.15743845]

>>15743811
offtopic

[Anonymous No.15743848]

>>15743833
so the FAA director or whatever was mistaken? she talked about start of october

[Anonymous No.15743852]

>>15743845
actually its on topic, talking about launch

[Anonymous No.15743857]

I remember hearing something about Crew 6 taking new photos of the ISS as they left. Did that happen? I haven’t seen them.

[Anonymous No.15743858]

>>15743848
nta
the fts is not armed yet. probably waiting for faa approval
if regulator bitch says october then it's october

[Anonymous No.15743875]

>>15743808
You will never be a Grummanite

[Anonymous No.15743895]

>>15743875
>>15742040
>>15742503
God I wanna work in space so bad.

[Anonymous No.15743900]

>>15743895

[Anonymous No.15743916]

>>15743858
Polly doesn't want cracker to launch.

[Anonymous No.15743917]

>>15743630
Watching Kim at the rocket sites was cool could tell he was fascinated.

[Anonymous No.15743924]

>>15743743
Thats why you cannot trust Tory the snake. I keep saying that, and people keep falling for the snake.

[Anonymous No.15743928]

>>15743483
Good to see factories stay open, but RocketLab needs to step on the gas. If Neutron isnt flying before the Amazon bulge its OVER.

[Anonymous No.15743947]

>>15743811
he's changed so much lmao.

[Anonymous No.15743949]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1702309139601404052

> Ship 25 destack is underway.

[Anonymous No.15743963]

>>15743949
CHINA WON

[Anonymous No.15743974]

>>15743949
it still needs flight recorders and the FTS installed, right?

[Anonymous No.15743988]

When's the next cool rocket launch or arrival? I'm out of touch with the news

[Anonymous No.15743993]

>>15743988
never, its over

[Anonymous No.15743995]

>>15743949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

[Anonymous No.15743996]

>>15743694
Wow. I did not expect to see my art pop up here of all places.

[Anonymous No.15743998]

22 mins ago

[Anonymous No.15744000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2PHJmvJzo

[Anonymous No.15744009]

https://twitter.com/stoke_space/status/1702316301157622260

[Anonymous No.15744027]

>>15743949
cringe.

[Anonymous No.15744036]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idJKLP5hcuQ
NASA ayy lmao conference started

[Anonymous No.15744041]

>>15744036
>No evidence UAP have an extraterrestrial origin

[Anonymous No.15744050]

>>15744036
https://science.nasa.gov/uap

https://science.nasa.gov/uap/faqs

[Anonymous No.15744064]

>>15744036
I have less than zero incentive to believe any government agency on this topic.

[Anonymous No.15744094]

>>15742540
Total _ _ _ Death

[Anonymous No.15744095]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbXdsvRcEMw

[Anonymous No.15744097]

>>15742714
You're thinking of JPL

[Anonymous No.15744102]

>>15744095

[Anonymous No.15744106]

>>15744097
recently learned that the founder of JPL and founder of Scientology were roommates, and they both had occult interests

[Anonymous No.15744107]

>>15743531
...because I don't want 10 kids with a bunch of random women?

[Anonymous No.15744124]

>>15743743
>where ULA ordered Spincraft to put the squeeze on SX in pricing and delayed deliveries.
Ummmmm isn't this illegal?

[Anonymous No.15744127]

>>15741504
Someone I think JPL has already developed a lunar lander and they'll do Artemis II landing on the moon and then cancel SLS.

[Anonymous No.15744131]

>>15744000
It's over.

[Anonymous No.15744142]

[Anonymous No.15744150]

>>15743974
yEP

[Anonymous No.15744156]

>>15744041
His immediate next sentence was "but we still have no idea WHAT they are..."

[Anonymous No.15744158]

>>15744156
Balloon

[Anonymous No.15744162]

https://twitter.com/SpacePadreIsle/status/1702328968500908412

Kathy Leuders speaking

[Anonymous No.15744171]

>>15744162
> [...] for flight is to put your flight termination system on.
>So all this means we are going one more phase to get ready to flight
>Everybody keeps asking, whats the date? That is the million dollar question
> We are working through are final stages with our licensing, but honestly with a new vehicle there are these last things that have to be checked to get everything right for that flight. So we are working with that too.

[Anonymous No.15744173]

>>15744009
Lot more fiery than I expected. especially out the top

[Anonymous No.15744178]

>>15744162
https://twitter.com/SpacePadreIsle/status/1702341661718630538

longer 2min vid, talking about some new regulation (Barpart 450?) that is slowing things down, both the FAA and SpaceX have to first understand what it even means

> I'm hoping we get this done during the next two or three weeks, but we just have to do the work. I always used to tell everybody, we aren't going to fly before we are ready and it still applies.

[Anonymous No.15744180]

>>15744009
>>15744173
nice

[Anonymous No.15744182]

2-3 MORE WEEKS

[Anonymous No.15744184]

https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1702303458844455060

Polaris Dawn Q1

[Anonymous No.15744185]

>>15744184
nice, something interesting at last

[Anonymous No.15744186]

>>15744173
looks like an oil refinery

[Anonymous No.15744187]

still waiting for Tom Cruise to fly with SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15744190]

>>15744187
I forgot about that
did that Russian movie ever come out?

[Anonymous No.15744202]

any suggestions for OP for next thread?

[Anonymous No.15744203]

>>15744178
>during the next two or three weeks
Lmao guess what else is in the next three weeks

Government shutdown

[Anonymous No.15744204]

>>15744178
https://www.faa.gov/space/licenses/operator_licenses_permits

part 450

[Anonymous No.15744205]

Who’s retard here and sees the reddit brain in this phase of humanity?

[Anonymous No.15744208]

>>15744202
Laser Uranus edition

[Anonymous No.15744209]

The blessed machine is immortal. The flesh is weak, it rots and it fails. The machine is immortal

[Anonymous No.15744216]

>>15744204
> Pre-application consultation is required by § 413.5 as follows:
>§ 413.5 Pre-application consultation.
>A prospective applicant must consult with the FAA before submitting an application to discuss the application process and possible issues relevant to the FAA's licensing or permitting decision. Early consultation helps an applicant to identify possible regulatory issues at the planning stage when changes to an application or to proposed licensed or permitted activities are less likely to result in significant delay or costs to the applicant

[Anonymous No.15744217]

>>15744205
you are not making any sense

[Anonymous No.15744222]

>>15744102
>we need a $2 billion crawler and expendable tower!

[Anonymous No.15744236]

its time

[Anonymous No.15744248]

>>15744236
>Pan-Sol spaceways
Pure, unadulterated SOVL

[Anonymous No.15744263]

falcon 9 doesnt need a fucking license

[Anonymous No.15744267]

>>15744208
How the hell do you get >100km/s of delta v with only 100MW of laser power? Ultra low mass flow?

[Anonymous No.15744274]

>>15744267
Oh, I'm retarded, this is an electric propulsion system, not a laser thermal one

[Anonymous No.15744280]

>>15743949
>This is highly unlikely for FTS work when the FAA approval does not appear to be close.
Why does NSF lie?

[Anonymous No.15744304]

>>15743900
How many of them do you think were her "work husbands"?
Especially since she's the only woman in that photo. Or was she just some poontang they found in the Marshall islands?

[Anonymous No.15744322]

>>15744304
in my experience, women who work in all male environments are guaranteed whores

[Anonymous No.15744340]

>>15744208
>muh gorillion Isp electric space rocket is so optimized, you'll love it! Pay no attention to the scale of the laser drive.

[Anonymous No.15744350]

>>15744340
>He doesn’t have entire batteries of orbital defense lasers on the moon
You are just begging for pirates at that point

[Anonymous No.15744353]

>>15744322
>in my experience, women who work in all male environments are guaranteed whores
why

[Anonymous No.15744359]

>>15744353
Because all women are whores

[Anonymous No.15744366]

>>15744359
This
>not my mom though
ESPECIALLY your mom

[Anonymous No.15744401]

Mark Juncosa - VP, Vehicle Engineering
Is a good candidate for the bearded man.

[Anonymous No.15744407]

Mark Juncosa - VP, Vehicle Engineering
Is a good candidate for the bearded man.

[Anonymous No.15744410]

>>15744407

[Anonymous No.15744414]

>>15743752
starfield came out recently. i haven't played it since i'm at college, but have heard it's good

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>>15744009
Reminds me of those "soul tea kettles" from the Twin Peaks continuation.

[Anonymous No.15744423]

>>15744414
I've heard the opposite

[Anonymous No.15744424]

space force is expanding to japan at yokota air base. it'll work collaboratively with japanese military space units and jaxa. it'll probably be similar to the one set up in korea last year.
https://www.sankei.com/article/20230914-H6VTZSVOMZJERJ6SXJQDXWT7BE/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Forces_Korea

[Anonymous No.15744431]

>>15744424
They are oddly widespread for a bunch of guys who operate the USAF's space assets. They must be working on a "forward space controller" doctrine.

[Anonymous No.15744436]

Why the hell would NASA want to keep flying this piece of shit until the 2050s? Is it because they can't cancel SLS until congress approves it?

[Anonymous No.15744439]

>>15744366
My dad divorced my mom specifically because she was a whore

[Anonymous No.15744441]

>>15744431
it's just a few people to coordinate with the locals regarding chinese and nork missile and space launches

[Anonymous No.15744443]

>>15744414
Any Bethesda game is worth waiting at least a year or two for mods to fix it

[Anonymous No.15744444]

>>15744436
>NASA wants to buy SLS rockets at half price
And I want sloppy head from anon's whore of a mother, what of it? Neither of us are gonna get what we want here, if anything I'm more likely to get blown than NASA is to get cheap SLS flights.

[Anonymous No.15744447]

>>15744436
Congress, existing contracts, and the worst case of sunk cost fallacy you've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.15744453]

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1702382139331977713

[Anonymous No.15744456]

>>15744453
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1702382407004070183

[Anonymous No.15744463]

>>15744453
they are drip feeding us this shit while we wait for the loicence

[Anonymous No.15744467]

>>15744436
Starship is a psyop china won we'll never make gpu in space its over

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[Anonymous No.15744475]

>>15744463
Marshall Spaceflight Center and the NASA Artemis accounts posted the footage, as well as a short article on NASA's website:
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2023/09/14/spacex-completes-engine-tests-for-nasas-artemis-iii-moon-lander
https://twitter.com/nasaartemis/status/1702387251928354915

[Anonymous No.15744479]

>>15744475

[Anonymous No.15744486]

>>15744479
>they're still thinking about using it for landing
There's a lot riding on IM-1's methane landing test

[Anonymous No.15744487]

>>15744475
blogpost

[Anonymous No.15744492]

>>15744486
I mean they can use it to slow down, then when they are very close to the surface use some other side engines like some early HLS renders
but still slow down and land using mostly the raptor vacuums

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[Anonymous No.15744523]

>>15744436
SLS doesnt get cheaper the more you build, funny enough

[Anonymous No.15744537]

>>15744414
>but have heard it's good
If you're going to play it for the spaceflight aspect, you're going to be severely and massively disappointed. My advice to you is, avoid it.

[Anonymous No.15744549]

>>15744492
where are the tests or even just pics of these side boosters?

[Anonymous No.15744555]

>>15744537
That said, the exploration aspect is basically No Man's Sky 2.0 and it's welded onto an RPG very similar to stuff Bethesda has done before. It's not "single player Star Citizen or Elite Dangerous" people were hoping for, but it is a decent way to spend an afternoon

[Anonymous No.15744559]

>>15744549
just use a bunch of superdracos?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperDraco

[Anonymous No.15744571]

>>15744236
>1 flight fortnightly
Very nice

[Anonymous No.15744579]

>>15744410
Raptorbro came straight out of the Matrix Reloaded zion rave lol

[Anonymous No.15744580]

>>15743043
Bummer, I thought it was bigger than it actually is. Welp.

[Anonymous No.15744581]

>>15744414
It's mid.

[Anonymous No.15744586]

>>15744501
That's what they want to use to land on the moon? Did they misread and thought that they were meant to be vaporizing the moon?

[Anonymous No.15744588]

>>15744124
Technically? Yes. But realistically, no; if you own the Congress and regulatory critters who'll look the other way.

[Anonymous No.15744591]

>>15744487
Hear ye, hear ye! Gather round, good people of Rome, and hearken to astonishing news from the province of Science!

The great shipbuilders of NASA do embark on a bold quest to the moon, making pact with mighty SpaceX to construct vessels fit for lunar conquest! Their ingenious engines shall be tested for the trials ahead - whether they can endure the deathly cold of space, and control their fiery power for delicate landings on the moon's pocked surface.

Tests prove successful, showing the foreign engines can throttle their might and survive extended chilling. This grants favor with NASA - confidence rises in SpaceX's artifice. Further feats are planned, ever approaching the day when man sets foot upon the moon once more!

Rejoice, countrymen! Rome's knowledge spreads beyond the horizons, crossing the heavens themselves! Truly, our culture is destined for greatness!

[Anonymous No.15744597]

>>15744453
How do you test a vacuum engine at sea level? Is the engine bell modified? Or are they just firing short enough to not have to worry about engine instability

[Anonymous No.15744602]

kinda glad I didnt buy it, this is more like a best of short stories fir those who arent terminally following elon (normal people). im skipping everything but the spacex parts, which thankfully there's a good amount

[Anonymous No.15744603]

Could they try landing a Starship on sand as a test run for HLS?

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[Anonymous No.15744610]

>>15744597
You see the cage around the nozzle? That stiffens the bell and prevents it from wobbling around like it normally would when flow detaches from the bell.

[Anonymous No.15744612]

>>15744591

[Anonymous No.15744623]

>>15744350
Nobody does yet, which is my point. Egghead retards proposing technologies that require incredibly huge infrastructure buildup and not realizing it's a problem because in their heads infrastructure is cheap & easy. In real life, that ion thruster sail is the easy part, the giant laser array is the (currently) impossible part.

[Anonymous No.15744624]

>>15744603
The moon doesn’t behave like sand; and the first test is going to be actually landing it on the Moon

[Anonymous No.15744625]

>>15744487
>>In a 281-second-long test firing, Raptor demonstrated the powered descent portion of the mission, when the Starship HLS leaves its orbit over the lunar surface and begins its descent to the Moon’s surface to land. The test had two goals: to show Raptor’s ability to change the level of engine power over time, known as its throttle profile, and for the engine to burn the full length of time of the powered descent phase. The successful test provided NASA with early confidence in the company’s engine development.
>281-second burn
as long as someone remembers to chase out the beetles from the propellant tank and remove the turtle eggs in the combustion chamber, Raptor is reliable.

[Anonymous No.15744632]

>>15744453
always impressive how quickly they spin this thing up.

[Anonymous No.15744633]

>>15744444
I am observing your post number closely

[Anonymous No.15744643]

>>15744579
lol

[Anonymous No.15744648]

Air Force Secretary comments on Musk's Ukraine decision, DoD submits report about strategy for protecting satellites
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/14/air-force-secretary-frank-kendall-talks-elon-musk-ukraine-china-ai.html
> Air Force chief sounds off on Musk’s Ukraine decision, tensions with China and the future of war
> Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said that last year Elon Musk’s SpaceX was making “unilateral decisions” about its Starlink service in Ukraine.
> The Air Force chief said the growing importance of space has increased collaboration between the military and the private sector.
> He said the Air Force, like many parts of the government and private sector, is looking for ways to use AI.
> “At the time, SpaceX made some unilateral decisions about what to do for Ukraine. They were not on contract to the U.S. ... I think they were definitely donating their services essentially, so they had discretion,” Kendall said in an interview with CNBC’s Morgan Brennan from the Air Force Association’s annual Air, Space & Cyber conference.
> The dynamic has since changed. The Pentagon now has a contract with SpaceX for Starlink services in Ukraine.
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https://spacenews.com/dod-submits-congressionally-mandated-space-policy-report/
> DoD submits congressionally mandated space policy report
> WASHINGTON — The Defense Department on Sept. 14 submitted to Congress a report explaining how it intends to keep satellites in orbit safe from aggression — and ensure that services like GPS navigation and space-based communications are always available.
> The unclassified report, “Space Policy Review and Strategy on Protection of Satellites,” was mandated by law and is an attempt to explain how DoD is dealing with threats facing U.S. satellites, such as Russian jammers and Chinese lasers that can blind satellites.

[Anonymous No.15744650]

>>15744586
don't be silly
>>15744603
No, in vacuum rocket exhaust doesn't form a jet, it just keeps fanning out. This means any attempt to land on a granular surface on Earth will bear zero resemblance to a landing on the Moon.

[Anonymous No.15744658]

>>15744610
despite all its rage it is still an rvac in a cage

[Anonymous No.15744662]

stage it

[Anonymous No.15744663]

>>15744648
So basically Elon acted totally within his right to act at the time & is owed no punishment.

[Anonymous No.15744667]

>>15744648
Space becoming increasingly important for the military, ESA worried about orbital congestion, Satellite telephony executives debate market size
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https://www.space.com/space-force-chief-saltzman-orbit-more-contested-speech
> Space is 'more contested' than ever by world's militaries, US Space Force chief says
> 'We were created for this new space era — an era increasingly characterized by great power competition.'
> The space around Earth is increasingly a site of military competition.
> "We are living in complex strategic times, and space is critical at this inflection point," Satlzman said. "The conflict in Ukraine has made it clear: access to, and use of, space is fundamental to modern war. It is also clear that technology is not a force enabler on its own. It is about the readiness of the forces using that technology that will tip the scales toward success."
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https://www.space.com/human-space-behavior-unsustainable-esa-report
> Humanity's current space behavior 'unsustainable,' European Space Agency report warns
> Satellites are making more maneuvers as orbits become increasingly congested.
> Greater efforts are needed to make valuable orbits sustainable, according to a new report from the European Space Agency (ESA).
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https://spacenews.com/satellite-industry-debates-size-of-direct-to-device-market/
> Satellite industry debates size of direct-to-device market
> PARIS — While there is growing interest in providing connectivity by satellites directly to phones, there is no consensus on how quickly that market will grow, or even what that market should be called.
> A panel at Euroconsult’s World Satellite Business Week here, featuring executives from companies that have provided satellite telephony services for years and new entrants planning to offer connectivity for unmodified phones, offered widely diverging views on how fast the emerging “direct-to-device” market will grow.

[Anonymous No.15744669]

>>15744663
yes, but this has been clear a number of days already

[Anonymous No.15744671]

>>15744662
but we're having fun

[Anonymous No.15744673]

>>15744669
yes but now I have a court statement to slap people with when they won't shut up about it

[Anonymous No.15744674]

>>15744667
Starlink is clearly about space dominance lmao - get a hold of all the good earth orbits
Pretty sneaky strategy by Musk/DoD hehe

[Anonymous No.15744681]

>>15744667
ESA has officially passed from valued launch provider and robotic space explorer to crab-in-bucket status. Cry more ESA, you can do nothing and you will do nothing.

[Anonymous No.15744684]

Is Virgin Galactic a serious company?

[Anonymous No.15744690]

https://twitter.com/Anton81191831/status/1702413638248673285

[Anonymous No.15744694]

>>15744453
>>15744456
BASED ON MARS

[Anonymous No.15744702]

Staging

>>15744700
>>15744700
>>15744700

[Anonymous No.15744706]

>>15744684
I might repost this on the next thread if we stage soon but apparently one of the customers on VG’s last flight brought up type-specimen bones for Australopithecus and redditors/twittards are absolutely SEETHING