/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15738465]

Are brain implants useful for STEM jobs?

[Anonymous No.15738466]

>>15738465
>Why must I, a Medicine major, take an ethics class?
What a dumb question to ask.
>Are nonexistent things useful for jobs?
Even dumber question.

A thread died for this.

[Anonymous No.15738469]

>>15738466
>elon before criticizing ADL
BASED ROCKET MAN
>elon after criticizing ADL
EVIL ROCKET VILLAIN

[Anonymous No.15738470]

Bourgeois science is terrifying

[Anonymous No.15738472]

>>15738465
Brain implants are some horror shit. NOPE

[Anonymous No.15738478]

>>15738465
Yes, they should be used for the improvement for affirmative action candidates.

[Anonymous No.15738522]

>Musk doesn't want to invest in biotech / longevity cause of ethical issues and possible "hitler effect"
>he's fine with developing literal mind control devices

Is he retarded?

[Anonymous No.15738540]

>>15738465
Except Elon is a college dropout, so how could he take that class?

[Anonymous No.15738543]

>NOoOoOoOoOooOOo le monkerino diederinooo
*eats steak*
*proceeds to consoom product that leads to pollution and deforestation that will kill thousands of animals*

[Anonymous No.15738545]

tick tock codemonkeys

[Anonymous No.15738546]

>>15738465
Without ethics society would collapse. Without society life is "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."

[Anonymous No.15738554]

>>15738522
same reason why people are okay with genetic engineering and not eugenics
they think eugenics is just sterilisation when it can be done ethically via embryo selection

[Anonymous No.15738568]

>>15738465
>reportedly
Anti-Elon propaganda. He confirmed on X that no monkeys died. The media just hates him because he brought free speech back to the mainstream and now they can't swindle their lies as well anymore.

[Anonymous No.15738722]

>>15738568
>Elon confirmed on Elon-owned platform Twitter (""""X"""") that Elon did nothing wrong and furthermore that Elon has made independent journalism obsolete

[Anonymous No.15738736]

>>15738469
Just because he went from "cringe reddit man" to "based rocket man" in your eyes after he went after the ADL doesn't mean no one else was paying attention. Plenty of people already realised what an unscrupulous self-aggrandising twat he was when they learnt what his actual "contributions" to Paypal and Tesla were. Then there was the whole Thai cave rescue fiasco wherein Elon suffered from terminal main character syndrome and threw a petty tantrum when the children were rescued before he could make a cool sub to do it, which was probably the tipping point for his public image. And ever since he started running Twitter (into the ground) it's been more and more abundantly clear to almost everyone that the billionaire class are incompetent schmucks who wield undeserved power for no good reason. Everyone but you, that is, because BASED ROCKET MAN GOING AFTER DA J00S.

And the worst part is he always was and never ceased to be cringe reddit man throughout it all.

[Anonymous No.15738737]

>>15738465
>Why must I, a STEM major, take an ethics class?
So that the government-funded golem programming staff could teach you that killing monkeys is LE BAD but creating artificial human embryos and experimenting on them is LE GOOD.

[Anonymous No.15738741]

>>15738737
To be fair, experimenting on monkey embryos is also allowed

[Anonymous No.15738754]

>>15738737
>creating artificial human embryos and experimenting on them is LE GOOD.
just a clump of cells chud

[Anonymous No.15738759]

>>15738741
Great. Here's a full Science Ethics course for you: just don't do it.

[Anonymous No.15738763]

>>15738754
You're also just a clump of cells to the people who put that idea in your head.

[Anonymous No.15738768]

>>15738763
I can survive outside of the womb and form coherent thoughts.

[Anonymous No.15738770]

>>15738768
The people who dictate your "coherent thoughts" don't care.

[Anonymous No.15738774]

>>15738759
>Why?
>J-just don't okay!

[Anonymous No.15738775]

>>15738770
>Everyone is a sheep but me
>Now excuse me I'm off to church to hear what the pastor has to say about embryos

[Anonymous No.15738778]

>>15738775
The voices are back, huh? Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.15738783]

Ethics be like: You can't it because... You just can't okay!
Total monkey death.
Total mouse death.
Total pig death.

[Anonymous No.15738788]

>>15738778
Meds? Why? Surely if I'm hearing voices it's a sign of my amazing connection to the world beyond mere material reality and bound to give me special insight. There is definitely something more, right?

[Anonymous No.15738791]

>>15738788
>Meds? Why?
Because you're having a nuclear meltdown over some argument with an imaginary character that only you can hear.

[Anonymous No.15738795]

>>15738774
>Le heckin' why, tho?
Because "ethical science" is an oxymoron at this point.

[Anonymous No.15738798]

>>15738791
>you're having a nuclear meltdown
Bruh I'm not the one that needs meds here lol

[Anonymous No.15738800]

>>15738798
>no u LOL!! bruuuuuh
4chins is 18+.

[Anonymous No.15738801]

>>15738795
Then fuck ethics
This is /sci/
>>>/e/thicc

[Anonymous No.15738803]

>>15738801
Fuck science. Empirically speaking. Judging by the state of /sci/. :^)

[Anonymous No.15738806]

>>15738800
You don't realise that I'm calling you delusional for imagining a "nuclear meltdown" after getting the slightest pushback? You seem to be projecting your own mental state here.

[Anonymous No.15738808]

@15738806
And now this homo is gonna shit out a dozen posts explaining how totally not mad he is.

[Anonymous No.15738813]

>>15738736
*when they learnt what his actual "contributions" to Paypal and Tesla were
Tesla? You mean the company he joined just a few months after it was founded, which was only three guys in a garage without even a prototype, there he joined and overhauled the entire operation and made it what it is today?
Why do you reddit niggers blindly trust everything you read on that massive agenda driven echo chamber? What's next, you think he got eich because his dad owned a small stake in an Zambian emerald mine lmao?

[Anonymous No.15738815]

>>15738736
Ukraine lost.

[Anonymous No.15738819]

>>15738736
>billionaire class
Citation needed.

[Anonymous No.15738820]

>>15738808
>@
Classic giveaway of "I-I'm not seething, you're seething"
If you don't quote me like an adult I consider it a concession

[Anonymous No.15738821]

>>15738813
>Why do you reddit niggers blindly trust everything you read on that massive agenda driven echo chamber?
oh the irony

why do you think he's cringe reddit guy my man

because reddit shilled his image as based rocket man, and now so do you, there's zero difference between reddit then and you now

[Anonymous No.15738822]

@15738820
>Mad??? Nuh uh. No, sir. Not me!
Called it. It's gonna be at least a dozen.

[Anonymous No.15738824]

>>15738822
So naturally you're going to stop after this one, right?

[Anonymous No.15738828]

[Anonymous No.15738833]

>>15738824
What is that guy doing?

[Anonymous No.15738835]

>>15738833
Seething

[Anonymous No.15738841]

[Anonymous No.15738912]

>>15738465
Yes I think ethics is important, but I think a class in reasoning and ethics is a good combination.

[Anonymous No.15738914]

>>15738912
Did you take a class in reasoning?

[Anonymous No.15738934]

>>15738914
Evidently not

[Anonymous No.15738940]

>>15738478
For that specific application the recommended implant is already abundantly available, tested and certified. And the best thing is that it's cheap too, depending on the circumference of the desired implant going to as low as a few cents each.

[Anonymous No.15738944]

>>15738545
Oh no, won't somebody think of the Indians.

[Anonymous No.15738946]

>>15738545
Meds.

[Anonymous No.15738956]

>>15738465
When I was smoking meth I thought the cartel broke into my apartment and implanted one of these in my brain because I caused one of their darknet vendors to be arrested, costing millions. I was hearing voices in my head nonstop. It was fucking terrifying. I hope that shit is never real anons.

[Anonymous No.15739020]

>>15738465
There are millions of woke cultists all over the world. I believe they are an untapped resource that should be used to push humanity forward. Even if all of them die there will be no negative impact at all.

[Anonymous No.15739051]

>>15738465
There is NO evidence that people behave more ethically after studying ethics.

[Anonymous No.15739054]

>>15738722
If you read the articles it's shown the monkeys died after the trials of natural causes. It's more propaganda with carefully worded headlines

[Anonymous No.15739055]

>>15738736
>the billionaire class
This is a phrase multi-millionaire trustfund babies use to tell themselves that they are part of the working class.
>I-I'm not a billionaire so I'm poor, right?

[Anonymous No.15739076]

>>15739054
Didn't read it, but let's, for fun, define what natural causes are.
heart attack?
brain hemorrhage?
neuropathies?

[Anonymous No.15739080]

>>15738465
Monkeys deaths are funny tho.

[Anonymous No.15739095]

>>15739020
The woke faggots and trannies all believe in moral utilitarianism and shit like the 'ends justify the means', and that 'the needs of the many outweigh those of the few', so according to their own ethical framework, it is justifiable to abuse or exploit them, if it will provide a net benefit for society as a whole. If that is indeed the case, the we absolutely should be using them for human experimentation and other dangerous jobs, since doing so will be in line with their own values and will be fullfilling their own wishes.

[Anonymous No.15739099]

>>15739095
Up yours, woke moralists.

[Anonymous No.15739119]

>>15739055
You really think multi-millionaires spend their days shitposting on 4chan?

Might as well I suppose, since they don't do any work

[Anonymous No.15739130]

>>15738522
He's a brainlet but also his competitors are in medicine fields.

Medicine/biotech/longevity is set to be the next big investment obsession after the multi-decades long romance between wallstreet and tech finally putters out, and Musk knows it and has to fight against it.

[Anonymous No.15739137]

>>15738545
LOL, AI produces shitty broken code to all problems except those found in textbooks.
>>15738944
Yes, the producers of shitty code will be in trouble as shitty code generation can be automated.

[Anonymous No.15739148]

>>15739119
I post in the morning before work and sometimes at night if I'm bored. But yeah being independently wealthy is obviously pretty sweet, you can live the retired life whenever you want, but not working gets boring after a while. After taking psychedelics I realized the ennui from too much leisure was making me depressed, so I decided to get a Master's degree and work at a research institute, which I've found very gratifying.

[Anonymous No.15739157]

>>15739148
And they say people won't want to work without the threat of starvation...

[Anonymous No.15740097]

>>15739157
how else will mr shekelstein make his money?

[Anonymous No.15740134]

>>15739119
There are literally millions of millionaires, and most of them have lazy layabout kids who like to larp as working class socialists online. You can tell them because they rant about "billionaires" but never complain about the far more numerous millionaire class. They don't complain about their neighbors in mcmansion gated communities.

[Anonymous No.15740137]

>>15739157
>that millionaire anon works at a research institute
How many people in his position do you think work as plumbers? We'd be neck deep in shit if not for plumbers, but exceptionally few people take up that kind of work out of boredom.

[Anonymous No.15740175]

>>15738821
>because reddit shilled his image as based rocket man, and now so do you, there's zero difference between reddit then and you now
Except he went from reddit AMA cringelord to throwing thousands of code monkeys out the door so he can cleanse the only website worse than reddit from liberal retardation. While simultaneously showing how incompetent NASA's diversity hires are. To the point the government is trying to sue him because he won't hire muh refugees at his Rocket company. Maybe you are right though, maybe it is fine for the FBI to meddle in our elections, and maybe Jose from Guatemala exclusively has the technical skills needed for space exploration.
What does it say about you when your opinion of a man doesn't change after the man, reasonably, completely 180s his actions due to his child being indoctrinated into mutilating themselves. Nothing good, that's for sure kek

[Anonymous No.15740185]

>>15740175
>after the man, reasonably, completely 180s his actions
m8 he didn't change at all, he was a sad cringelord and will forever remain a sad cringelord, what does it say about you that you started to like him? No principles.

[Anonymous No.15740189]

>15738768
>I can survive outside of the womb and form coherent thoughts.
You still have to actively nurse and directly feed a human child until they are 2, so I guess they are just a clump of cells as well and we can murder them on a whim. If we put you and a fetues out in the wilderness alone, you'd die within 2 days of each other lmao.
>>15738775
>>15738788
You are literally a fucking schizo that constantly makes everything about religion. Not once was that ever brought up retard.

[Anonymous No.15740188]

>>15740134
Shit, I wish I lived in your fantasy world where I and everyone I know was a millionaire

[Anonymous No.15740190]

>>15740188
I am not a millionaire, and never said I was.

[Anonymous No.15740191]

>>15740189
>constantly makes everything about religion
It was one reply...

[Anonymous No.15740192]

>>15740190
No, you said I was, can't even keep track of your own bullshit?

[Anonymous No.15740722]

>>15738821
>lies through his teeth while parroting the common made up garbage he read on reddit
>accuses others of being fucking redditors
Hypocritical nigger. Imagine being no different from modern reddit, the literal single biggest and most agenda driven echo chamber on the entire internet.

[Anonymous No.15740778]

>>15738465
Such a pointless experiment. Even if they want to test the bad.stuff on animals I still can't see any reason to want to put pain into something so intense that it dies. I just
Don't see how this would ever be useful

[Anonymous No.15740984]

>>15738465
Most people are just too retarded so they need those implants
If they die during the process, well, such is fate.

[Anonymous No.15741010]

>>15738465
ethics is nothing more than the ruling class's imposed collective morality. it is a tool for control and the screen capped midwit screeching about it is a conditioned willing slave to it. as for implants, you have to be pretty tarded to think that whatever benefits they offer with search outweigh the downside of having assorted glowies directly backdoored to you brain. and sure rocketman may not be trooning out but glowies play both sides of their culture war psyop.

[Anonymous No.15741082]

>>15741010
It's always funny how the people who aren't at the forefront of scientific and technological progress are the ones screeching about le morality and le ethics
>New method to edit genes
>Noooo le elite will use it! Genetics does not play a part in dictating inherent characteristics such as intelligence!!! Black people will be oppressed once again wahh wahhh
>Breakthroughs in Artificial Intelligence
>Nooo!!! Le elite will make le robots take my job!! Not epic bacon science!!!
>Where's my UBI???
>Brain implants to aid paralyzed patients in regaining control of their motor functions
>Noooo!!! You cannot sacrifice a bunch of screeching monkeys to further the human condition!!! It must be le FDA approved and take 15 years!!!!!!
SAD!

[Anonymous No.15741096]

>>15741010
>ethics is nothing more than the ruling class's imposed collective morality.
Correct.

>you have to be pretty tarded to think that whatever benefits they offer with search outweigh the downside of having assorted glowies directly backdoored to you brain
Also correct. This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.15741098]

>>15741082
Now find the flaw in that position. Protip: being written in green doesn't refute it. :^)

[Anonymous No.15741116]

>>15740722
>lies through his teeth while parroting the common made up garbage he read on reddit
I don't read reddit. I made up my mind about Elon years ago. You're the projecting little cunt whose opinion changes depending on which propaganda spigot you're suckling from you manipulated fool. You're literally out here being Musk's volunteer PR department telling other people are in an agena driven echo chamber, lol, you poor sap

[Anonymous No.15741118]

>>15741116
Fine. Have it your way. People like you are gonna sit in the back of the rocket with the niggers, I swear to God!!

[Anonymous No.15741698]

Its a lab animal who cares

[Anonymous No.15741699]

>>15741698
>Its a lab animal who cares
So are you.

[Anonymous No.15741701]

did you guys know that nasa used heccin chimperinos to test physiology in space?? this is problematic...

[Anonymous No.15741728]

>>15741701
Miss Baker was a spider monkey NASA launched into space and returned safety to Earth in 1959. She lived out her days at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Alabama, where she lived to be 27, the longest known lifespan for a spider monkey.

[Anonymous No.15741763]

>>15741728
space increases longevity? well sheeit, fire up the warp engines boys, let's get going

[Anonymous No.15741787]

>>15738465
I worry for the future of brain chips.
I worry for the type of person who'd want to volunteer for this shit.
I worry that the "average person" is tech illiterate.
I worry that "informed consent" in a medical context is a lie, because the average person can never be "informed" enough or understand enough to make a competent decision completely on their own.

I worry because when dumb people start using technology they don't understand, then the technology most often ends up using the people instead. Nothing is free, but dumb people are willing to exchange way too much (in a non-monetary sense) to get toys and trinkets in exchange.

[Anonymous No.15741798]

>>15738736
>it's been more and more abundantly clear to almost everyone that the billionaire class are incompetent schmucks who wield undeserved power for no good reason
And you WON'T DO SHIT but seethe lmao.
Love the man for running Twitter into the ground though.

[Anonymous No.15741807]

>>15738768
Respectively: So can a fetus a few months before birth (premature births can survive), and depending on your definition of a coherent thought, a baby cannot do that for months or years after birth.
Especially a niglet.

[Anonymous No.15741808]

>>15738469
He was one of the few billionares doing something good for humanity until he became politically active and proved himself completely retarded.
This happened several years ago incase you haven't been paying attention and the ADL is equally retarded.

[Anonymous No.15741830]

>>15741118
Please, we both know Elon's not going to let black people go to Mars. Nor will he need slaves because you sycophants will sign up to be the field niggers of Mars voluntarily and thank him for the opportunity, lol

[Anonymous No.15741880]

>>15741830
robots are way better than slaves though. can work harder and longer, in unhabitable terrain and conditions, never need breaks, sleep, or food, no chance of rebellion.

[Anonymous No.15741907]

>>15741698
>>15738912
Its terminal lab monkeys nearing the end of their life as well. So no actual animals have died because of the system. Only the sick/elderly that are on the verge of death have died with starlink implants.

Its the same metric liberals use to measure covid. "He died because of Covid, after a car accident" "He died because of Covid, @ the age of 90" "He died because of Covid after the a gang shooting"

[Anonymous No.15741908]

>>15738465
is there a limit to confirmation? i don't like where this ends, today

[Anonymous No.15741915]

>>15741808
>Nooo you cant fight back against political tools

[Anonymous No.15741920]

Ethics are for cucks. Just do whatever feels right in the moment

[Anonymous No.15741926]

>>15738545
Language stuff can be explained by AI having thorough knowledge of everything, but image recognition? What are those images that humans can't identify but AI can

[Anonymous No.15741943]

>>15741926
have you tried to solve captchas on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.15741950]

>>15741943
Yeah? They're ez, are you a human or something

[Anonymous No.15742308]

>>15739051
It is unethical to teach the principle of double effect. It helps people take harmful actions that more ethical people wouldn't do.

[Anonymous No.15742336]

>>15741808
Yes, he was against much of the covid policies the government dictated. What a chud.

[Anonymous No.15742354]

>>15742308
Agreed. Gut instinct ethics is the best kind of ethics, people naive to ethical philosophy are the most likely to behave ethically because they haven't learned how to overrule their instincts with "rational" argument.

[Anonymous No.15742369]

>>15742308
>>15742354
>anti-rationalist moral philosophy > working class pleb gut feelings > midwit normie gut feeling rationalizations > rationaltard "moral" philosophy
You cannot refute this.

[Anonymous No.15742425]

>>15742369
based

[Anonymous No.15742567]

>>15741880
>Elon wouldn't enslave us, he'd use robots because that's the rational thing to do!
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.15742752]

>>15741907
>Its the same metric liberals use to measure covid. "He died because of Covid, after a car accident" "He died because of Covid, @ the age of 90" "He died because of Covid after the a gang shooting"
It's also the same thing anti-vaxers do, "He got the vaccine and then died on his 4th heart attack".

[Anonymous No.15742758]

>>15742752
>no u
What a mongoloidal animal you are.

[Anonymous No.15742778]

>>15739130
Musk isn't tech though, he's industry. His two biggest movers of the market are Tesla and SpaceX which are industry. People don't even remember that he was involved in PayPal.

[Anonymous No.15742783]

>>15742758
Everyone is treating politics as a team sport these days and most are agreeing with their "side" on everything because thinking for yourself is hard.
I enjoy pointing out both sides are fucking retarded while I exist outside the Overton window in both directions.
>I think the government doesn't have the right to tell adults what they can do with their own body
This makes me extreme left with drug legalization.
>I think people should have access to the service rifle of their nation to retain the ability to overthrow the government
This makes me extreme right.

Both of these positions were centralist 100 years ago when you could get a Tommy gun and cocaine from the general store.

[Anonymous No.15742790]

>>15742783
Is this supposed to be a parody?

[Anonymous No.15743047]

>>15739137
A year ago, it could barely do any of this

[Anonymous No.15743050]

>>15743047
And?

[Anonymous No.15743051]

>>15738465
15 dead monkeys vs how many dead mice from experimentation?

[Anonymous No.15743076]

>>15738568
Primate brains were irreparably fucked with for no reason whatsoever except to generate PR for this guy. Alive or dead it is still unethical to maim living beings for this bs.

[Anonymous No.15743098]

>>15738465
I've said this before and I'll say it again. We don't want STEM constrained by the ignorance of lesser minds. Ethics should be kept in house. Politicians and the public should defer to our own expertise.

[Anonymous No.15743375]

what the fuck should we care about ethics in animal experimention? Anything that leads to a brealthrough that increases the quality of life for humanity is a net positive and always moral.

[Anonymous No.15743377]

>>15743375
>inb4 "le humans are animals too!!!!

[Anonymous No.15743390]

>>15738466
How do we know what the correct system of ethics is?

[Anonymous No.15744230]

>>15742783
>I think the government doesn't have the right to tell adults what they can do with their own body
>This makes me extreme left with drug legalization.
Qtards are extreme left
>I think people should have access to the service rifle of their nation to retain the ability to overthrow the government
>This makes me extreme right.
Marxists are extreme right
t. Anon

[Anonymous No.15744931]

>>15738465
Amazingly these “concerned” lefties never even bothered to talk about “fauci beagles”
Lefties “ethics” are always in line with the party
>>15743076
>primate brains fucked for no reason
Ye, and fauci beagles got their voice box removed because scientists didn’t like to listen to them screaming in pain
Was that, a good reason too?
>>15742783
Nigga extreme lefties are also ok with guns.
Only liberals and light lefties don’t like guns.

[Anonymous No.15745309]

>>15741116
>projecting this hard
Utterly fucking pathetic. If you "made up your mind years ago" you wouldn't have needed to resort literal lies to push your garbage narrative. Like I said earlier, you're absolutely no different from the modern redditor. Willing to lie through your teeth to keep up a narrative you desperarely wants to be true. Far worse than some nerds that liked him because le hecking rockets and cars!

[Anonymous No.15745364]

>>15738736
>>15741808
shut up, leftist

[Anonymous No.15745372]

>>15738465
My ethics professor was a nepo hire; his wife was dean.

[bodhi No.15745375]

>>15741787
>that pic
it's funny because it is true

[Anonymous No.15745595]

>>15738465
NOOO THINK ABOUT THE MONKERINOS AND THE RATTINOS. NOT THE KAWAII DOUBUTSINOS

[Anonymous No.15745601]

>>15738736
>everyone that the billionaire class are incompetent schmucks
cool it with the anti-semetic remarks

[Anonymous No.15747085]

>>15738465
I DONT GIVE A FUCK
THEY'RE MONKEYS, NOT PEOPLE

OH NO, 15 DIED...
I SAY GIVE HIM 15000 MORE

[Anonymous No.15747094]

>>15738469
>before criticizing ADL
>elon after criticizing ADL
not really, the shift against elon happened before he even bought twitter.

[Anonymous No.15747124]

>>15738469
>>15747094
>elon before attacking the ADL
Top.
>elon after attacking the ADL
Bottom. Hope this photographic evidence of Elon's personal holocaust settles your dispute.

[Anonymous No.15747147]

LEAVE THE BILLIONAIRE ALONE TRANNIES GO DILATE

[Anonymous No.15747640]

>>15741010
>ITS BECAUSE OF DA ROOLING CLASS, ITS JUST ANOTHER TRICK TO ROOL HARDER OVER YOU...
holy midwit

[Anonymous No.15747650]

>>15747640
glow somewhere else

[Anonymous No.15747694]

>>15738465
is it ethical for americans to be 4.5% of the worlds population and eat 50% of the worlds food?

[Anonymous No.15747772]

>>15739054
>powershitter gets heart attACKed
>itz da vaxxx
>more than half the monkeys with experimental brain chips die
>muskman said it's ok so it's ok