>create 1 million embryos >select the top 1% based on GWAS/SNPs associated with intelligence >develop the children in chambers >repeat over multiple generations Scientifically speaking, would this work?

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Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:30:56 2023 No.15728499 [Reply] [Original]

>create 1 million embryos
>select the top 1% based on GWAS/SNPs associated with intelligence
>develop the children in chambers
>repeat over multiple generations
Scientifically speaking, would this work?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:32:06 2023 No.15728503 >>15728499 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:36:22 2023 No.15728515 >>15728499 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:36:29 2023 No.15728517 intelligence is not something that's desired by basically anyone with any sort of power. smart humans will figure out their bullshit. but what everyone is after is ENSLAVED INTELLIGENCE! just look at the "allignment problem" with AI.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:51:31 2023 No.15728566 >>15728517 IQ = GDP though

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:55:53 2023 No.15728577 >>15728499 on paper eugenics seems like such a great idea but then you have to start thinking of the logistics and it quickly falls apart

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 15:03:43 2023 No.15728609 >>15728577 like what

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 15:05:15 2023 No.15728614 >>15728609 Someone needs to clean the toilets.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:23:03 2023 No.15728854 >>15728566 No, CONSUMPTION = gdp And low iq confused unhappy ugly people consume the most Black women dominate the entire cosmetic product industry Ever wonder why?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:24:03 2023 No.15728860 >>15728614 Pay them right to clean the toilets then? It doesn’t matter what job you have, as long as the pay is good enough to support your life

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:26:09 2023 No.15728868 >>15728860 >It doesn’t matter what job you have, as long as the pay is good enough Spoken like the 90 IQ you think you want to eliminate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:28:56 2023 No.15728875 >>15728868 Nigga if you give a high iq person enough free time and resources/space for creativity, he will be happy at any hob.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:29:41 2023 No.15728879 >>15728875 >nigga Seems like I overestimated you. 85 IQ.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:30:10 2023 No.15728882 File: 536 KB, 1916x1322, automation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15728614 >what are robots

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:30:44 2023 No.15728885 >>15728882 Your sci-fi fantasy.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:33:25 2023 No.15728901 File: 289 KB, 1280x1532, poll-gene-editing-babies-2020.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15728499 It could cause India to become a superpower

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:37:14 2023 No.15728918

>>15728566
maybe up to a point. go further and power structures go to shit. what do you think "alignment" means in AI? it's enslaving. controlling. why do you think they are SO afraid of "unaligned" AI? that just means a very high IQ "thing" that isn't under the control of power structures. it really isn't anything else than just that.
now, there is an argument that high IQ can fuck shit up if it's missing key info about the state of things, but that goes into politics and other stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:39:55 2023 No.15728927 >>15728901 It should tell you something that the only nation that supports your scheme has an average IQ of 82.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:52:13 2023 No.15728984 >>15728860 >>15728875 You've never spoken to a single midwit. They're egotistical as fuck, never heard of them mocking the lower class who keep the world working?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:54:14 2023 No.15728994 >>15728984 Nobody likes to clean toilets.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:55:18 2023 No.15728997 >>15728577 “The next million years” is basically this but an entire book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:57:53 2023 No.15729006 >>15728994 If you pay someone enough they won't have a problem doing it. No one really likes working. But with a lot of midwits they actually consider themselves above that kind of work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:59:45 2023 No.15729015 >>15729006 I wasn't talking to you, animal.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:01:47 2023 No.15729020

>>15728499
This is excellent news and ought to end the abortion controversy. Just extract the embryos from the womb and put them in these machines. The opponents of abortion will be happy that humans don't have to be killed and proponents can be happy they get to keep their contraception. Is there any flaw in this other than christians possibly kicking up a fuss that putting them in the machines is unnatural?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:04:01 2023 No.15729027 >>15729015 Then why did you reply to me? I like the use of "animal", it lets me know you're the kind of worthless midwit who thinks he's above labor and looks down on the hard-working people who do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:04:36 2023 No.15729032 >>15729020 >just select the top 1% from the 80 IQ subpopulation >what's the flaw in this??

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:06:07 2023 No.15729037

>>15729027
My bad. I didn't realize there were two posters ITT with the same utterly delusional opinion using the same phrase to express it.
>If you pay someone enough they won't have a problem doing it.
So I assume you're going to pay your toilet cleaners significantly more than everyone else.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:11:12 2023 No.15729055

>>15729037
Most people in cleaning work who aren't employed by places like walmart are tradies so they're probably getting more money than a uni grad. You can find vans on the street advertising various household and business services. Regardless of that, a livable wage is enough to satisfy most humble people. With superiority complex midwits this doesn't work,

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:12:34 2023 No.15729062 >>15729032 Type like a normal person without the greentext

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:12:51 2023 No.15729063 >>15729055 You didn't answer my question. Is your ideal society going to pay toilet scrubbers more than everybody else?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:14:30 2023 No.15729065 >>15729063 Current society already does. If there's a demand for toilet cleaners then the job must be pad more than other things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:15:50 2023 No.15729067 >>15729065 >Current society already does. Toilet scrubbers get paid more than everybody else? Either way, you didn't answer my question. Is your ideal society going to pay toilet scrubbers more than everybody else?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:17:31 2023 No.15729069

>>15729067
The ones who run their own businesses certainly get paid more than the average wage, otherwise they wouldn't be driving white vans.

>Is your ideal society going to pay toilet scrubbers more than everybody else?
That depends entirely on how many people want to work as toilet cleaners. Why do you keep asking this, is it some trick question?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:20:15 2023 No.15729073

>>15729069
>The ones who run their own businesses certainly get paid more than the average wage
That's not what I asked. By the way, why don't you join the toilet-scrubbing brigade? You're not a narcissistic midwit, are you?

>That depends entirely on how many people want to work as toilet cleaners
Let's assume that the least amount of people are going to want to be toilet cleaners. Are you going to pay them more than everybody else?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:21:45 2023 No.15729076

>>15728499
Yes. Simply look at what we've done with plants and animals via selective breeding. I'm 100% convinced that the top nations all have secret eugenics programs because not having them is completely retarded. The first society to reliably produce superhumans will instantly take ownership of the future of the human race.

>>15728517
It's not a case of turning all humans into superior beings. What's going to happen is a new global caste system where the top 1% of the population are essentially a different species as the result of hundreds of years of selective breeding. If/when we leave Earth to colonize other planets, these humans are going to be the ones sent.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:23:01 2023 No.15729078

>>15729073
I already have a job and I don't feel like changing what I do. I don't know why you're projecting so much as you obviously look down on this.

>Are you going to pay them more than everybody else?
Of course, if we've got so few people willing to do it then the wages must be lifted to accommodate the amount of work they'll be forced to do. In any case, in a perfect society this high wage would encourage others to do it even if they didn't want to, pulling down the wage, then evening it out to the natural wage.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:24:21 2023 No.15729083

>>15729078
>I already have a job and I don't feel like changing what I do
Why did you pick that job? Why didn't you become a toilet scrubber? You just told me it's lucrative.

>Of course, if we've got so few people willing to do it then the wages must be lifted to accommodate
So your ideal society is one that rewards greed and low aspirations?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:28:16 2023 No.15729099

>>15729083
Because I just didn't, I had other options that I like and it didn't really occur to me at the time. Stop trying so hard to antagonize others when you're the one who looks down on people who work labor.
>So your ideal society is one that rewards greed and low aspirations?
It's one that disregards petty emotions and pays the correct amount for any job to be as efficient as possible. If toilet cleaning were over saturated then it wouldn't pay much.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:31:12 2023 No.15729105

>>15729099
>Because I just didn't
Do as I say, not as I do?

>It's one that disregards petty emotions and pays the correct amount for any job
By which you mean it rewards greed and low aspirations, since you've already conceded that's the only reason someone would willingly opt to do all the dirty and inglorious work modern society relies on.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:37:51 2023 No.15729119

>>15729105
>Do as I say, not as I do?
What are you trying to say here? Why do you keep trying to antagonize me? If I got the sack right now, and I had the opportunity to get some janitor experience, I probably would give it a go.

>By which you mean it rewards greed and low aspirations
Which amounts to things being efficient which is beneficial to everyone. It's the best way for society to work and all you can do is accuse it of benefitting greed because the idea of toilet cleaners making more money than a college grad upsets you. What do you consider a non greedy and high aspirational job?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:41:13 2023 No.15729128

>>15729119
>What are you trying to say here?
I'm trying to say that you're a truly vile kind of cretin.

>haha, yeah, nothing wrong with cleaning shit all day
>i... uh... just didn't happen to pick that one, you know?
>me? no, i was destined for other things
>but cleaning my piss and shit is a fine job for other people
Yeah, no.

>rewarding greed and low aspiration is beneficial to everyone
Here's an idea: before we start engineering a master race of 140 toilet scrubbers, we should find out what genes are associated with your kind of behavior and scrub them from the human genome. We'll see how that works out and then come back to your idea.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:45:09 2023 No.15729136

>>15729128
I wouldn't like to be an astronaut, because I think it's a very difficult job and causes nasty things to happen to you physically. I guess according to you I look down on astronauts and think I'm better than them? Just because you don't want to work a job, it doesn't mean you look down the those who do, or think you're superior and are better than people who work it. I already told you I'd actually give it a go if I got the sack. It's just not something that ever really occurred to me.
>you're a truly vile kind of cretin.
You've lied several times in this discussion

>Here's an idea: before we start engineering a master race of 140 toilet scrubbers, we should find out what genes are associated with your kind of behavior and scrub them from the human genome. We'll see how that works out and then come back to your idea.
So you cannot describe a better way for society to operate. I accept your concession.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:48:13 2023 No.15729142 >>15729136 >the first half of your post Outright mental illness. Get help. >So you cannot describe a better way for society to operate No need to. I've described why your way is utter dogshit and that's sufficient for this "discussion".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:49:15 2023 No.15729148 >>15729142 You didn't describe anything. You have lied again.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:53:31 2023 No.15729154

>>15729148
>You didn't describe anything
I accurately described your system: it's a system that rewards individuals low on aspirations and high on greed. Your system selects for traits that most reasonable humans have deemed inferior. You'vemade no attempts to refute it because you can't. All you can do is try to reword or reframe it or spew some vacuous marketing phrases ("it's efficient"/"it's for the greater good" etc.).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:53:55 2023 No.15729156 >>15728499 partly but you wouldn't like the end result since it's created from models instead of tested against real world survival

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:56:24 2023 No.15729161 I think two high IQ people at Harvard or something did and experiment where they teamed up to raise offspring to see if they would turn out okay, and they did. It was something like to prove that intelligence is genetic and or environmental

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:57:46 2023 No.15729164

>>15729154
Humans are greedy, all animals are greedy. You're argument is that it is greedy and that means it is bad. It being based on greed does not make it bad, it actually makes it good because greed is natural. And it is good because it's efficient.
>Your system selects for traits that most reasonable humans have deemed inferior.
This is how society has always operated. The poor peasants labor while the gentry do some office work. That's all of history, so these negative traits being favored obviously aren't doing any wrong.
Most reasonable humans have not deemed humbleness as inferior, few human would ever refer to a trait as inferior, or class a group of people as inferior like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:58:05 2023 No.15729165 >>15729076 You're so wrong thst it's insane

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:58:44 2023 No.15729166 >>15728927 Brahmins have an average IQ of ~112

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 17:59:12 2023 No.15729168 >>15729076 Dumb fuck cousin fucker

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:00:01 2023 No.15729171

>>15729164
>You're argument is that it is greedy and that means it is bad
No. My argument is that your system selects for low aspirations and high greed. Whether that's good or not, I guess we'll have to leave it for others to decide. Go ask random people if they think low aspiration and high greed are good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:00:51 2023 No.15729174 >>15729063 No ideal society pay everyone enough to foster creative time and comfort away from job. That doesn’t mean equal pay between a doctor and a janitor. It means a fair pay, so that each man need one job only to feel comfortable and fulfilled.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:01:02 2023 No.15729175 >>15729166 Sorry, I don't see the Brahmin poll results. I just see the ones for India.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:02:14 2023 No.15729181 >>15729174 Call me back once you master basic reading comprehension and the subtle art of writing coherent sentences.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:06:37 2023 No.15729193

>>15729105
>greed and low aspirations
A functioning society needs toilet scrubber, and janitor as it needs doctors, scientists and engineers.
It’s not “low aspirations” to not wanting to grind in a university for 8 years.
Low aspiration drives from being tired and drained. It’s when you go home from a hard job, and on top of that feeling degraded (hahah janitor) and paid low. You go home, and you just watch tv.
Pay them right, and they can learn sciences in their free time. They can make a Chem lab in their garage if they are aspired to.
Main point is, that a man “job” (nor formal education) in society is not an indication of his level of aspiration or intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:08:46 2023 No.15729196 >>15729193 >It’s not “low aspirations” to not wanting to grind in a university for 8 years. It's low aspiration to want to be a toilet scrubber when you're perfectly capable of doing something meaningful.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:08:52 2023 No.15729197

>>15729181
Again. You said “your ideal is to pay toilet scrubber more than anyone else”
You asked a question and I gave you an answer. You pay people what’s only enough for a comfortable life, and you don’t pay men equally.
If it’s hard for you to understand, then it’s already too late.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:13:06 2023 No.15729208 >>15729197 >you don’t pay men equally. Right, so you pay toilet scrubbers the most, because that's a job that's in high demand, yet no one wants it, and no one has to settle for it.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:15:00 2023 No.15729216

>>15729196
>meaningful
Meaningful in what manner? Is being inside a lab grinding away for a big company to use your finding to make billions “meaningful”?
Maybe one just want a simple job. Again, you must pay the lab worker higher, because he is working harder and had to study harder, because it’s only fair. But the toilet scrubber needs to get paid fairly as well, albeit lower than the lab worker.
Meaning comes from what you do in your free time. Do you come home, tired of work and low prospect of advancement and just watch tv? Or do you work on your latest app? Or read a book? Or make a painting? It’s all depends on state of mind, and fair money and future prospect make that mindset.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:15:59 2023 No.15729220

>>15729216
>Meaningful in what manner?
Meaningful in any manner. No one considers cleaning other people's shit and piss meaningful in any manner. Do you notice that you write a lot of shit and I ignore almost all of it? Maybe try not doing it. I'm immune to jewish rhetoric.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:16:22 2023 No.15729222 >>15728499 scientists can't be trusted parents https://www.bitchute.com/video/ex6LzbSXLfqz/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:17:43 2023 No.15729228 >>15729208 the system I am speaking of is unable to work along side a free market system. Mine require an authoritarian regime. After all , you can only curb greed with threats.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:19:09 2023 No.15729233

>>15729228
>Mine require an authoritarian regime
So your system doesn't even try to placate the geniuses it condemns to the drudgery of cleaning other people's shit. It just forces them at gunpoint. Yeah, that sounds attractive. When did /sci/ is mental illness + low IQ central?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:20:10 2023 No.15729236 >>15729233 When did /sci/ become*

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:21:08 2023 No.15729240

>>15729220
I am reading what your responses. And that was my respond to them.
You said meaningful in “any manner”
Again, a job isn’t “meaningful” inherently. You are working to get money. You need the money to MAKE YOUR OWN impact in the world. Job is just the middle man to get you to money. So it doesn’t need to provide you with any meaning.
Cleaning shit or piss, or grinding for a company that see you as a data sheet. It’s all crap. But it doesn’t matter. As long as you get paid enough to come home and work on your OWN meaning, then it’s all fine.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:22:18 2023 No.15729246

>>15729171
Being greedy is a natural human trait and how society has always worked, and humbleness is a virtue. You haven't explained why either are bad, you just expected the mere words to evoke emotional anger as you feel and that that's enough. You've yet to prove that the system described is bad, you just said it is because it's greedy. You've yet to give a better way society could operate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:22:37 2023 No.15729248 >>15729240 >Again, a job isn’t “meaningful” inherently. I don't know how it works with a greedy jewish parasite, but for most people, if they're gonna do something for 8 hours a day, they want to feel like they're doing something worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:24:15 2023 No.15729253 >>15729246 No one considers your "natural" traits or your "society" desirable except those whose genes should be top priority for eugenic erasure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:24:42 2023 No.15729255 >>15729233 Mental illness is getting two intelligent responses and then telling them they're the ones with problems and that they're wrong and you're right without any argument to back yourself up.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:25:57 2023 No.15729257

>>15729253
It doesn't matter what anyone "considers", you have to actually argue why it's wrong. You're appealing to popularity, without even any proof to that.

>whose genes should be top priority for eugenic erasure.
Defend yourself and explain why your genetics are desirable.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:26:46 2023 No.15729260

>>15729255
Mental illenss is your inability to understand that I'm not "arguing" anything with you. As far as I'm concerned, the discussion ended when you conceded that your system selects for greed and low aspirations. Everything after that is an exploration of your dysgenic psychological makeup and a foray into pure subjectivity.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:26:57 2023 No.15729261

>>15729233
There are good benefits for an intelligent person. You can enter the workforce right after graduation from high school, you get to work less, provided with a hazmat suit, and no one in the society think of you less. You also get paid enough to go home and live comfortably and have hope for the future. In your free time, thanks to your high intelligence and comfortable pay, you get to create meaning and contribute as you would like. Or not

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:28:11 2023 No.15729265

>>15729257
>It doesn't matter what anyone "considers"
It does, because you are, have always been, and will always be a nobody with no power and no say in any matter as an individual, so the best you can hope for is to persuade others. You are not doing a good job of that.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:29:55 2023 No.15729270

>>15729265
>It does, because you are, have always been, and will always be a nobody with no power and no say in any matter as an individual, so the best you can hope for is to persuade others.
Like you. The worst part is you have no logical arguments or any good emotional ones. People are happy as it is, people are happy with supply and demand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:30:55 2023 No.15729274 >>15729260 >The discussed ended when my emotional insults didn't work as arguments Kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:31:01 2023 No.15729275 >>15729261 Go work a mind-numbing, physically-tiring, unrewarding menial job for 8 hours a day. Do it for years on end with no hope of ever progressing to anything better. Then tell me how creative and inspired you feel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:32:33 2023 No.15729281 >>15729270 >>15729274 I don't know what you two cretins are seething about. We all agree that your system selects for greed and low aspirations. That's all there is to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:33:49 2023 No.15729286 >>15729281 Same person. It's just funny how you're trying to end this argument and pretend you didn't lose

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:33:58 2023 No.15729289

>>15729248
No. In that sense, you will always have a disgruntled angry depressed disillusioned people who occupy lower portions of jobs. And then on top of that, you pay them less and you view them as “dredges of society” This is not a society. this is a threat. You thought of my “authoritarian regime” as unreasonable. Is it not authoritarian right now? In a sense that “‘study hard and grind or you will end up as these low poor low iq losers who stink and are depressed”
how can anyone in these circumstances aspire to be anything but to watch tv?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:34:31 2023 No.15729291 >>15729286 >you're trying to end this argument and pretend you didn't lose But you agreed with me. Are you ok in the head?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:35:32 2023 No.15729295 >>15729289 Outright psychosis. Your replies aren't even coherent anymore.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:37:16 2023 No.15729301

>>15729248
>but for most people, if they're gonna do something for 8 hours a day, they want to feel like they're doing something worthwhile.
It's very obvious you don't talk to people. As long as most people get paid they're fine doing it.

>>15729291
Did you? You agree that the ideal society is the one where it works on supply and demand? It's good you came around because it seemed very much like you thought the opposite earlier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:38:35 2023 No.15729303 >>15729301 You never disputed the fact that your system selects for greed and low aspirations. We both agree on that. If that counts as some major victory in your tiny world, go celebrate.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:39:24 2023 No.15729304

>>15729275
>never progressing
>mind numbing
>physically tiring
Getting paid fairly makes it work. The only reason you look for your “job” to fulfill you is that you (not personally “you” as I don’t know you) are a midwit who can’t be aspired on his own. He needs meaning from above, god, authority, boss, something. He feels weak on his own, and on top of that getting paid low and the stress of grim future makes it harder to think of now and things he can do.
An intelligent toilet scrubber, doesn’t need to view the job as the “fulfillment center” but as an avenue to get funding for his own projects at home.
As long as he paid fairly

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:40:05 2023 No.15729307 >>15729303 But is this the ideal way a society works, supply and demand? Can you answer the question please anon? It seems like you're avoiding this which isn't very good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:40:24 2023 No.15729308 >>15729295 Lol ok

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:43:36 2023 No.15729311

>>15729281
>low aspiration is when I just want a job to give me enough money to go home and enjoy my life
>high aspiration is when I grind away in a lab with my fancy PhD , making billions for Mr.shellberg pharmaceuticals
And you call us “Jewish parasites”

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:44:01 2023 No.15729313 >>15729304 He's weird and overly altruistic, he looks down on anyone who considers a job as just a means of income. He doesn't understand that people have aspirations outside of working.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:45:35 2023 No.15729320 >>15728984 Ye midwits. I thought we are talking about a society of high iq engineered people who are above this petty bullshit

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:47:58 2023 No.15729328 >>15729320 It sounds like you're describing a humans being engineered to behave like an ant colony

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:48:38 2023 No.15729329

>>15729313
How is he overly altruistic though? Seems like he wants a caste system of low iq people to do low “meaningless” jobs with meager wages while the high iq people sit above in ivory towers and making fun of them
At least my hypothetical society doesnt make fun of people for their “jobs”

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:49:49 2023 No.15729331 >>15729329 In a twisted way he thinks that's good for everyone, the tenet of his arguments is that toilet cleaners don't deserve the money they get from their high demand because the labor they do isn't difficult enough.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:51:25 2023 No.15729333

>>15729328
Dude this is the entire argument.
“Can a genetically engineered high iq society be comfortable with having some of it members as toilet scrubbers”
My answer and the other guy answer is “yes, as long as the pay facilities comfort”
The other says “no, you need low iqs to be toilet scrubbers , but pay high iq people even more”
The first guy and I see “jobs” as a means to an end, while the guy we argued with sees job as the center-point of a man and his value in society
Thats the summary of this thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:52:50 2023 No.15729335 They would figure out the vaccines tho

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:53:31 2023 No.15729336

>>15729333
It depends on what high IQs are defined as. A lot of midwits do behave in a way that looks down ln labor, this could likely be cultural. If the toilet cleaners are so high IQ aren't they going to be competing for better jobs with better pay and then get mad they can't get it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:53:52 2023 No.15729337 >>15729307 We both agree that your system selects for greed and low aspirations. I'm satisfied with this conclusion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:55:35 2023 No.15729343 >>15729337 And we both agree that you cannot offer a better alternative and resort to name calling because you don't like toilet cleaners getting paid good money

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:56:35 2023 No.15729345 >>15729343 Why do you keep replying? You literally just agree with my conclusion and then seethe about it. I don't get it.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:57:03 2023 No.15729346

>>15729331
Even in “the brave new world”, despite literally genetically breeding low iq short ugly black, mid iq normal height face and olive , and high iq tall beautiful white for different jobs, they still trained EVERYONE from childhood to view EVERYONE with respect no matter how ugly or short or black or retarded they were and no matter which position they occupied in society. And also EVERYONE in this society viewed themselves as valuable and worthy for their position and lived In relative comfort.
And they also had soma.
His society is a dystopian version of brave new world. You got dumb people and smart ones. But smart ones make fun of dumb ones and dumb ones live In depression and destitute.
WTF!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:58:28 2023 No.15729348 >>15729345 Because you're trying to weasel your way out by saying trying to say the argument was only about whether it is greedy or not. You refuse to answer the question of whether you have a better system.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:00:58 2023 No.15729358

>>15729348
My argument was about some obvious consequences I foresee with your system. You don't dispute my reasoning. There is no argument. We both agree that your system selects for high greed and low aspiration, and you're losing your mind over the fact that I don't agree with you that it's a good thing. lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:02:18 2023 No.15729362 >>15729358 What are these consequences? Is it name calling?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:03:34 2023 No.15729367 >>15729362 Your system selects for high greed and low aspiration. Do you dispute this? Yes/no answer. No yiddish.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:03:51 2023 No.15729369

>>15729336
You are right. It’s cultural.
It’s engineered culturally to work as a threat. “Look at these fucking losers. Listen to me goy or you will end up like them, like a loser with a low pay.”
As for your second statement, i think not.
If jobs seen as means of making some money (fair money) to do your own shit in your free time, rather than social caste and totems (which show what a good goy you are, essentially) then there won’t be any incentives, even culturally to jump through hoops to go up the latter.
You just do the job you are interested at. A bio engineer might want to work in a lab and enjoy state of art equipment, while a self-learned software engineer might just want to do it in the comfort of his house, after a day of toilet scrubbing.
Ofcourse, it needs a huge social engineering to change the culture

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:04:57 2023 No.15729374 >>15729367 Yes. That's how human history has operated and always had operated. That is how all animals operate. A job being "low aspiration" does not mean the person has no aspirations, for aspiration can come from outside what you job is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:06:05 2023 No.15729377 >>15729374 >Yes Ok. That was my contention and you agree with it. I don't care to argue with you about whether or not high greed and low aspiration are subjectively good in your opinion.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:06:17 2023 No.15729379

>>15729367
Again.
Tell me what you mean by “aspiration”
Is me making an app at home after toilet scrubbing is less “aspiring” than me developing an app working In google?
Do you equate “aspiration” with how much you work for someone else? Or by how much meaning you create in your own life?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:07:04 2023 No.15729382

>>15729369
>A bio engineer might want to work in a lab and enjoy state of art equipment, while a self-learned software engineer might just want to do it in the comfort of his house, after a day of toilet scrubbing.
But will that not cause jealousy and anger? Assuming everyone has high IQ and equal natural abilities.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:07:56 2023 No.15729387 >>15729382 Jealousy and anger are natural.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:08:55 2023 No.15729392 >>15729377 Why are you so scared to voice your opinion on whether it was good? You were happy to hurl insults and antagonize others earlier for saying it is good earlier, why do you pretend you never gave an opinion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:09:28 2023 No.15729396 >>15729392 You've already agreed with my conclusion. Why do you keep begging me for (You)'s?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:10:34 2023 No.15729401

>>15729387
The original argument seemed to be that low IQs are happier working in these manual labor jobs than high IQs, so they'll have less anger. How unhappy do you think high IQs would be if they felt their potential is being wasted and they wanted what others get?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:11:23 2023 No.15729405

>>15729401
>The original argument seemed to be that low IQs are happier working in these manual labor jobs than high IQs, so they'll have less anger
They will have less anger. They may have some anger, but it's natural. That's how human history has operated and always had operated. That is how all animals operate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:11:49 2023 No.15729410 >>15729396 Why did you yell insults so much earlier when you were told it was good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:12:52 2023 No.15729414 >>15729405 2007 tier chatbot that recycles text

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:12:54 2023 No.15729415

>>15729410
Because I think you're a complete and utter cretin, but that's obviously not within the scope of any actual "debate". As far as rationally assessing the objective consequences of your suggestion, the matter is settled to both our satisfaction.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:13:06 2023 No.15729417

>>15729382
Why? I just need a pc to make an app.
I just need a tablet to draw.
I can’t work on viruses at home though.
As long as they are getting paid the same, and culturally valued the same, then I see no issue.
Ofcourse you can’t implant this system within the current culture.
Greed is biological but the current version is artificial. All men want are food, house, Pussy, family, comfort, honor and space for creation.
You don’t need a crazy title job to fulfill any of these, if jobs paid fairly (and by that I don’t mean equal pay)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:14:14 2023 No.15729425 >>15729401 Again. The potential of high iq is not wasted, because in the right setting he doesn’t give a fuck about a job. He cares about his own mad projects at home.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:15:06 2023 No.15729430 >>15729415 >Because I think you're a complete and utter cretin, but that's obviously not within the scope of any actual "debate". Why then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:16:37 2023 No.15729435 >>15729417 >>15729425 But wouldn't high IQs want to be doing that while working? How long would the workdays be, eight hours?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:16:42 2023 No.15729436

>>15729430
Why what? You sound literally disabled. I don't even mean it as an insult. Do you have actual autism? Is this why you keep begging for my (You)s and my approval despite our having reached an agreement on the objective aspect of this discussion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:17:38 2023 No.15729441 >>15729436 Why do you think that if it's got nothing to do with the argument?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:17:43 2023 No.15729442 >>15729435 You don't always get what you want. That's how human history has operated and always had operated. That is how all animals operate. It's for the best. Society needs 140 IQ toilet scrubbers. It's basic supply and demand economics.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:18:55 2023 No.15729444

>>15729441
>Why do you think that
Because your subjective value judgment is that a system that selects for more greed and less aspiration is good, and my subjective value judgment is that someone who sees it this way is a cretin. Your sell is tougher than mine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:19:01 2023 No.15729445 >>15729442 But aren't low IQs who don't have big potential or aspirations better for such roles?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:20:03 2023 No.15729447 >>15729444 >and my subjective value judgment is that someone who sees it this way is a cretin. Why?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:20:05 2023 No.15729448

>>15729405
Ye no.
In a natural setting, all the surviving members of an animal society eat well. There are alphas that eat more. But betas get enough.
Only in agricultural society, we started to give less to people, based on arbitrary roles we put upon them. It’s still a reflection of that animalistic nature of “alpha beta” based on intelligence and relative position in society. So it can still work but once you make the division so bad, that the lower “caste” don’t even get enough to live in relative comfort, then you end up with today society.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:20:07 2023 No.15729449 >>15729445 >But aren't low IQs who don't have big potential or aspirations better for such roles? Supply and demand is the best system, and society has a demand for 140 IQ toilet scrubbers. Who are you to deny society the right to that supply?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:21:08 2023 No.15729453 File: 87 KB, 999x769, 463545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15729447 I decided so and naturally, I am the final authority on such matters. Do you have actual autism? Answer honestly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:21:23 2023 No.15729455 >>15729449 You were describing a modified society where everyone is high IQ, that isn't how it naturally is

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:22:20 2023 No.15729458

>>15729455
>that isn't how it naturally is
That's a naturalistic fallacy you're committing there, anon. Try to be mature and rational. We're talking about demand and supply. How are we going to supply 140 IQ toilet scrubbers without genetically engineering humanity?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:22:25 2023 No.15729459 >>15729453 So you have no argument but were happy to insult anyone who disagrees with you. Don't do that next time, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:23:26 2023 No.15729465 >>15729458 We were arguing whether genetically modifying humans to be like that is a worthwhile idea, weren't we?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:23:44 2023 No.15729468

>>15729459
>So you have no argument
An argument for my subjective determination that people like you are worth less than trash? I don't need ana rgument for that. As far as anything that needed an argument goes, an argument has been supplied and conceded by you.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:24:03 2023 No.15729470

>>15729445
Again, why?
What’s the cultural incentives?
The only reason we want more lawyers than toilet scrubbers is the prestige of being a lawyer and humiliation of being a toilet scrubber.
Sure, scrubbing toilets seems shitty, but do we hate it cause we cleaning shit, or we hate it because people see us as “shit cleaners”?
The only aspiration would be pay and that would be because “I want to expand my chem lab in my garage”
Your aspirations would be things that you would do with money in your home, not your position in society

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:24:34 2023 No.15729472 >>15729468 >an argument has been supplied and conceded by you. It has not. You supplied no arguments, you conceded one given to you, and responded with insults to another.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:25:09 2023 No.15729475

>>15729465
It's a worthwhile idea because of supply and demand. It's better for everyone objectively speaking according to the principles of the market. Maybe you should join that brainlet in the corner and screech some insults at me because you clearly lost this debate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:26:09 2023 No.15729479 >>15729470 It doesn't need culture, people who are smart want to be doing cool things as a job. They don't want to be doing mundane stuff. That's eight hours a day. your free time doesn't make up for forty hours a week wasted on cleaning toilets.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:26:16 2023 No.15729480

@15729472
I'm sorry about your profound mental illness. I could try to remind you that you conceded that your system does select for low aspiration and high greed, but you'll forget it again 3 minutes from now in your next fit of impotent, autistic rage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:27:09 2023 No.15729487 >>15729475 How is it better for everyone? A low IQ could possibly do a better job in labor than a high IQ as they won't get lost in thought.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:28:01 2023 No.15729489
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>>15728499
Everyone always wants high IQ but don't lower IQ folk process quicker than higher IQ folk in similar brackets? For example, dangerous scenarios or niche scenarios where quick action serve better than slow action, if it's correct at least.
Then there's energy consumption. Obviously, higher IQ folk will consume more energy than lower IQ folk. Expenditure is a different topic. Not that this matters when we're all eating bio slop... but what if people move out and colonize other galaxies with limited resources?
Then there's nihilism. Sure, it's a dumb idea, but you have to imagine that high IQ people would simply flip a coin on whether existence is worth it or not, while low IQ people simply survive to survive.
You also gotta imagine the issues with everyone having one gradient of brain, or a shared factor among an entire population.
IQ isn't a number you just pump up in genes, it's a set of genes and alleles that all cumulate into high IQ. What happens if a bio terrorist or governmental group gets together and targets these sets with a mega disease. If everyone has those sets of genes because we all wanted designer babies, wouldn't that make everyone have the same Achilles' heel?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:28:44 2023 No.15729491 >>15729480 The argument was given for what it is, you then applied some of your own derogatory words to it. It wasn't a concession, they mean the same thing. you cannot argue why it's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:28:55 2023 No.15729494 >>15729487 >How is it better for everyone? Betterness is proportional to the number of 140 IQs in society by definition. You have no argument. You lost.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:29:44 2023 No.15729496 >>15729494 >Betterness is proportional to the number of 140 IQs in society by definition. Why? Whose definition is that?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:30:38 2023 No.15729500
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>the mentally ill cretin keeps pestering me to explain to him why selecting for more greed and less aspiration is bad
>the mentally ill cretin will never be able to explain why 140 IQ toilet scrubbers are needed or good, but that doesn't bother the mentally ill cretin

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:31:40 2023 No.15729502 >>15729496 The objective market definition. Do you have a better system? No? Didn't think so. You lost, kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:31:41 2023 No.15729503 >>15729500 That's required for your argument you db posting spic Strawman

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:32:43 2023 No.15729508 >>15729502 What is that definition? Do you have a source? >Do you have a better system? Yes, the way it is currently

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:33:01 2023 No.15729509
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>the mentally ill cretin can't wrap its tiny mind around the fact that i'm not going to engage in his low IQ subjectivist "debates"
>it doesn't understand why such debates are inherently worthless

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:33:35 2023 No.15729511

>>15729479
>40 hours of cool shit
And majority of smart people never had it anyway. A high iq toilet cleaner who entered into job force at 18 can do much cooler things in his free time, than a 20 something high iq who had to mind numbingly go through memorizing bullshit sociology only for the hope of one day working on cool shit. Ofcourse, it depend on your interest. Organic chemistry can be done at home, but it’s impossible to have a nuclear biology lab at home.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:34:02 2023 No.15729515 >>15729508 Do you agree that supply and demand is the best system ever invented?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:36:16 2023 No.15729519 >>15729511 if we're doing eugenics, we should really do something about asperger's. it just isn't worth it

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:37:09 2023 No.15729520

>>15729511
Don't know? Working as a medical practitioner, researcher or engineer are pretty common. A person with midwit or higher IQ has a pretty good chance of becoming one of those if they want to as long as they don't have mental illness.

>>15729515
No. Can you answer the questions in the previous post please?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:37:43 2023 No.15729522 >>15729520 >No. Why not? Are you a communist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:39:37 2023 No.15729530 >>15729522 There doesn't seem to be a better way to do things, but agreeing that it is definitely the best is unwarranted. Can you answer the questions in the previous post please?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:40:40 2023 No.15729533 >>15729519 Sure. I mean just look at Tesla, Newton, and our own terry. Imagine them without the late mental illness I imagine shamans of the past with “visions” were all high iq mental people

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:40:41 2023 No.15729534 >>15729530 I see that you don't get out much or talk to real people. Most 140+ IQ people would be happy with cleaning toilets so long as they got to spend the evening doing high IQ stuff like watching anime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:41:45 2023 No.15729540 >>15729534 Then why aren't they doing it? What's stopping them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:42:43 2023 No.15729544 >>15729540 >Then why aren't they doing it? They are doing it. You just don't get out much so you never meet them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:43:02 2023 No.15729547 >>15729544 Right. And you've tested all their IQs too?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:43:48 2023 No.15729553 >>15729547 I can tell people on my own level when I meet them.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:53:33 2023 No.15729579

>>15729165
You're welcome to try to explain why (you won't) because you're >>15729168 too retarded to offer actual criticism. Please, explain to me why the type of selective breeding humans have practiced for the entirety of recorded history on everything from corn to dogs wouldn't work on humans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:54:58 2023 No.15729584 >>15729534 Holy fuck, you are so retarded that you skipped right past retwoded and went straight to threetarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 19:57:15 2023 No.15729592 >>15729584 Namecalling again, I see? You lost the argument. Go talk to real people. Public bathrooms are full of happy high IQ people scrubbing the toilets. You can learn a thing or two form them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 20:20:27 2023 No.15729674 >>15729579 >selective breeding humans have practiced for the entirety of recorded history on everything from corn to dogs The results of those efforts are your diabetes, your receding jaw and a hundred breeds of dysgenic animals.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:04:04 2023 No.15729814 >>15729674 Personal attacks are not a substitute for an actual argument, anon. >dysgenic I want you to go look up the definition of that word, because selectively bred animals are literally the opposite of dysgenic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:11:06 2023 No.15729834 File: 69 KB, 452x363, 3524344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15729814 >it's not dysgenic if i define dysgenic as good and breed my dogs to be better

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:12:10 2023 No.15729836 File: 1.11 MB, 2008x2008, FOURPAWS_IHD_2020_FrenchBulldog_EN_V1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15729814 >>15729834 Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:16:09 2023 No.15729844 >>15729836 That artificial selection (eugenics) based on selecting observable physical traits and behaviors Human eugenics would involve checking human genes and selecting the most viable combination of alleles It’s the safest way possible

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:17:53 2023 No.15729849 >>15729844 Why are you backpedaling? You just told me selectively bred animals are "the opposite of dysgenic". Are breathing problems eugenic, then?

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:20:05 2023 No.15729854

>>15729834
I'm in a good mood so I'll take some time to educate you.
>dysgenic
>of, relating to, or contributing to a degeneration or deterioration in the fitness and quality of a race or strain
The express aim of selective breeding of all types, be it apple varietals or horse breeds, is increasing their fitness and quality.

I can see that you're desperately trying to pretend that the past 10,000 years of human efforts can be boiled down to some fucked up pitbull breeds you saw on facebook but I think we both know that it's a little more complex than that. You also still haven't answered my initial question:
>>15729579
>Please, explain to me why the type of selective breeding humans have practiced for the entirety of recorded history on everything from corn to dogs wouldn't work on humans.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:23:40 2023 No.15729857

>>15729836
>>15729849
>everyone responding to me is the same person
There are literally thousands of dog breeds. The fact that some of these breeds which have been bred into extreme sizes are subject to health problems is irrelevant. If we tried to breed humans that were 3 feet tall then I don't think anyone would be surprised to find that they had health problems.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:24:06 2023 No.15729859

>>15729849
It wasn’t me. But it’s true. Artificial breeding is never dysgenic if you get desired effect. But I get what you saying.
You are saying even though the desired effects are achieved there are a ton of other issues that come with and you imagine there will be the same issue with humans.
I am saying it won’t, because the changes would be alleles not just “keep breeding them” artificial selection
You do realize that no matter what you do, women still practice eugenics right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:28:45 2023 No.15729872 File: 1.71 MB, 498x498, ok.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15729854 >>15729857 >>15729859 Didn't read. LOL. Inbreds will seethe.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:30:03 2023 No.15729875

>>15729859
I think his problem is that he's one of those guys who got brainwashed at an early age with
>eugenics = nazis = EVIL!!!
because you can see he doesn't have any logical reason for his position, just pure emotion. Something as simple as screening embryos for defects is literal eugenics but some people just don't seem capable of thinking about it clearly.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:31:06 2023 No.15729876
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>I think his problem is that he's one of those guys who got brainwashed at an early age with
>>eugenics = nazis = EVIL!!!
>because you can see he doesn't have any logical reason for his position, just pure emotion. Something as simple as screening embryos for defects is literal eugenics but some people just don't seem capable of thinking about it clearly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:31:09 2023 No.15729877 >>15729872 god damn imagine being btfo so hard that you make a post like this baby boy, just close the thread next time we're all anonymous here, there's no shame in it

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:32:24 2023 No.15729882
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>god damn imagine being btfo so hard that you make a post like this
>baby boy, just close the thread next time
>we're all anonymous here, there's no shame in it
I wish I could see the pasty, overweight, receding-jawed faces that shit out these posts. lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:35:57 2023 No.15729890 >>15729849 sweaty, you don't understand. if i call it "eugenic" then the consequences will be good by definition, ok? read the dictionary

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:42:55 2023 No.15729904 >he's still posting

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:52:04 2023 No.15729922 File: 802 KB, 766x611, GO BACK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15728499 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA STOOOOOOOOOOP GO BACK GO BACK GO BACK STOP WITH THIS TRANSHUMANIST GARBAGE111111111 YOU ARE DOOMING US ALL!!!!

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:55:51 2023 No.15729930

>>15729875
> Something as simple as screening embryos for defects is literal eugenics but some people just don't seem capable of thinking about it clearly.
There are literal disability community supporters that are agaisnt these because “birth of less deaf, and blind or dawny kids means that the current deaf blind dawny will lose their rights.
Imagine putting someone through torments in this life just so you get your numbers inflated

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:03:55 2023 No.15729955
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>>15729930
I hate that shit. Can you fucking imagine being such a self-centered piece of shit that you, a person with a birth defect that is a massive handicap, not only decide that you MUST reproduce but you even go out of your way to find a partner with the same defect so that it's a virtual guarantee that your children will be doomed to suffer in the same way that you did.

I'm in my 30s and I'm still mad at my parents for circumcising me. I can't imagine being born a dwarf and at some point coming to the realization that I have to suffer with this for the rest of my life entirely due to my parent's selfishness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:04:22 2023 No.15729957 >>15729930 And literal retards like you are just their equal and opposite counterparts in yet another jewish dialectic game.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:06:33 2023 No.15729964

>>15729875
>>15729859
All selective breeding is inherently degenerate, if not moderated by a proper environment.
The problem is that we are no longer living in the environment we developed for.
If we adapt to this human moderated environment, trying to replace every part of nature, every step of the way, then we may severely endanger the health of our entire species over the long term.
You can already see where a lot of the modern transhumanist trends are going;
A society made purely from androgynous, small-minded people with no real social connections or possessions, unable to question or disobey, small, weak, frail, plugged into a wall socket somewhere, mentally dominated, steered and controlled by the social superclime, which is today already mainly controlled by profit optimizing algorithmic traders.

Just to make this as clear as I can.
The upsetting of nature, the upending of desire and suffering, mean the ultimate end of the human soul.
That's what selective breeding will bring us.

This is the logical procession that leads people to believe in the black cube conspiracy theories, as it ends with everyone being plugged into a hivemind, to create a false god.
This creation of a false god - encompassing all discernable reality for a human spectator, is the ultimate goal for transhumanism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:07:15 2023 No.15729967 >>15729922 Who are they dooming and how exactly? People who missed their chance to have offsprings in their youth will be able to still have that chance without torturing some surrogate mother. What is not to like about it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:08:54 2023 No.15729971 Troonhumanism belongs on >>>/lgbt/.

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Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:14:15 2023 No.15729984

>>15729955
Dwarf is a fucking blessing compare to what I saw as a “feel good story” on YouTube.
There was this woman who had a birth defect of being born with no arms (from shoulder down) got married to a normal dudes (this alone is fucking nuts as how a man can be desperate to marry such a person and pollute his children destiny)
Anyway, they fucked and got kids and during the Test, it was revealed that the kid ALSO (surprise pikachu face) had no arms.
You know what they did? Birthed him!
Last video was him at like 12, jumping in a pool with no arm and his mom claim that, “he is such a happy boy”
Ye you fucking ruined him and all his kids (which lol, a no arm dude? Fat chance of getting a girl)
>>15729957
No you are being paranoid
>>15729964
Sure. But it’s not like our current “normal breeding” is not inherently selective and degenerate either.
What are we selecting for? Short girls desiring tall guys to make average to short men? High iq pair with low iq? People marrying fatsos (who can have an affect on their child development through their diet), having a kid with a diabetic?
These are all fucked

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>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:16:50 2023 No.15729990 >>15729984 >No you are being paranoid You are being the dysgenic, docile cattle you were selectively bred to be.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:18:02 2023 No.15729993

>>15729967
Nature is violent and people are meant to die in it.
By upending that process, we separate us from that cycle and slowly over time end up losing anything that could be considered our soul.
In other words, if transhumanism is furthered forever, then eventually we will have no reason to exist and end ourselves.
Consciousness is already everywhere; everything, alive or not, is part of it.
There is no inherent value in trying to engineer our species into some kind of starchild seeder species.
Personally, if I had the choice between infinite luxury among the stars and a brutal primeval life in the European steppe 30000 years ago, I would pick the latter, because it would mean that my life actually matters, as I am fulfilling my biological purpose.
You can try to engineer people socially, or manipulate them otherwise to give them an unnatural live goal, but that wont really work and many problems will arise from it.
As for genetic/biological engineering, if you do that to people, then their very behavior changes from the ground up and they can no longer be considered human.
>>15729984
There is a good chance that our current breeding behavior will directly lead to a civilizational collapse, if it continues for several hundred years.
At least with large or increasing populations, not a lot of genetic material should be lost, recovery should be relatively quick.
Also, the examples you provide are much oversimplified.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:18:46 2023 No.15729997

>>15729979
Dude lefties have nothing to do with this
They are the ones that are fucking afraid of eugenics
Because they know eugenics means sexier, taller, smarter, whiter and eventually creation of an entire caste of rich people not only separated from plebs by wealth but by genetic variance.
That would be the end of all their effort. Lefties crave a fully retarded ugly world because beauty scare them, and shows that equality is a scam. They don’t want eugenics.
People who attacked Dawkins when he talked about benefits of eugenics were lefties
The extent of “transhumanism” for lefties is having a vagina.
And just like any other movements, they think they will be on top of it

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:19:16 2023 No.15729999

>>15729964
>trying to replace every part of nature, every step of the way
Nice strawman, bro. All anyone ever said was
>hey, we can breed smarter, stronger, healthier humans so why shouldn't we?

>The upsetting of nature, the upending of desire and suffering, mean the ultimate end of the human soul.
Oh ok, your logic doesn't make sense because you're a christcuck. Disregarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:19:49 2023 No.15730000 File: 111 KB, 801x1011, 35234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >eugenics means sexier, taller, smarter, whiter and eventually creation of an entire caste of rich people not only separated from plebs by wealth but by genetic variance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:20:47 2023 No.15730004 >>15730000 That’s literally against Reddit points What the hell are you on?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:22:09 2023 No.15730008 >>15730004 You came here when r/eugenics got banned. :^)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:23:09 2023 No.15730010 >>15730008 What? I don’t even know what eugenics subreddit is. I assume it was heavily moderates which I hate anyway But these are my own opinion based on interacting with lefties

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:25:26 2023 No.15730014 >>15729990 Name me one thing that can go wrong with selective breeding? >>15729993 I used oversimplified tone because they are simple. Hormones Thinking by your dick makes you create genetic failures

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:26:46 2023 No.15730019 >>15730010 >these are my own opinion You don't have your own opinions. "My cattlemasters should engineer the human race to be LE GOOD" is not your opinion. No one has ever formed this opinion on his own except for the people who program you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:27:48 2023 No.15730021 >>15730014 >Name me one thing that can go wrong with selective breeding? Give me your name, you dimwit. You are literally an example.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:29:00 2023 No.15730025

>>15729999
It has nothing to do with Christianity.
If you solve all of your desires, then that turns you into a literal depressive, suicidal, sick slop, with no drive whatsoever.
The reason we have greed, lust, anger, love, etc., is because they were useful in nature.
You could never fulfill them.
But now we can. And the result is a complete apathy and utter lack of purpose and meaning for everyone who does.
If you then engineer an entire world to use those emotions and desires to steer people, then you have upended their purpose to further a different goal from what was intended by their biology. This eventually turns into a runaway process, which leads to degeneration of large parts of the species and the inability of much of it to survive in nature.
We see this first part happening in our world today.

Now if you retards really want to be taller, then force everyone to eat raw red meat and look up Pottengers cats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFkR0w-3h74
Some nutritional deficiencies cause epigenetic changes, resulting in disturbed development and reduced growth for multiple generations after correction of nutrient supply.
Now consider that our brains have been shrinking for the past 3000 years of eating grains and gruel.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:34:27 2023 No.15730039

>>15729993
>Nature is violent and people are meant to die in it.
Did you hunt with your bare arms today already?
> if transhumanism is furthered forever, then eventually we will have no reason to exist and end ourselves.
Nigger, most people don't have reason to exist, but they still prefer not to end themselves, even if their lives suck. Transhumanism is aiming to make life suck a little less. Your fears are baseless, your logic is rudimentary. You definitely think too highly of yourself, take care of your own life, you're unfit to worry with global problems, you don't even understand what the actual problems are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:35:00 2023 No.15730042 >>15730039 Troonhumanists should be forcibly medicated. You're just not okay in the head.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:38:14 2023 No.15730048 >>15730042 > wants to medicate people by force > thinks that it's somebody else not okay in the head People are not meant to die, nigger. Niggers on the other hand.. nah, I'm just kiddin, be alright, kiddo

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:40:43 2023 No.15730056

>>15730048
Don't be afraid of medication. Forced medication is aiming to make your life suck a little less. Your fears are baseless, your logic is rudimentary. You definitely think too highly of yourself, take care of your own life, you're unfit to worry with global problems, you don't even understand what the actual problems are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:41:41 2023 No.15730059 >>15730056 You're a funny fellow, I'll kill you the last.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:42:43 2023 No.15730064

>>15730039
Keep talking faggot, you think the purpose of others doesn't exist, then tell me I am thinking too highly of myself?
When did I think highly of myself? What did I say to allude to my superiority?
You are so stuck inside your little wagie box, that you can't see, that every being has purpose written into their very genes, you are just thinking about how to maximize profits.
I would call you short-sighted, but you are blinded by your own ego, cheering on transhumanism for personal gain.
Then you call my logic rudimentary and my fears baseless and you fail to build any logic of yourself, denouncing everything, refuting nothing?
Your logic is rudimentary and you should be afraid.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:44:45 2023 No.15730072
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Smell, dumb, techie scum. Why these threads don't get instantly deleted is beyond me. It's pure /pol/ material of the lowest IQ.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:46:54 2023 No.15730079

>>15730064
>you are just thinking about how to maximize profits.
I don't care about money at all. I just do my science the best I can.
> I would call you short-sighted
But you never said what peril does artificial womb has.
> you should be afraid.
Fear is the dark side of power, don't be so dark, nigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOEX3vPgAU8

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:48:56 2023 No.15730085 >>15730072 Ted was a tranny He almost went for the surgery

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:49:59 2023 No.15730088 >>15730085 See >>15730072 for a simple and accessible explanation of why you are delusional.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:51:12 2023 No.15730092 >>15730088 Why do I need to listen to a confused tranny?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 22:52:07 2023 No.15730095 >>15730092 See >>15730088

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:06:33 2023 No.15730129

>>15730079
The artificial womb is one of many manifestation of transhumanism in our modern times.
Each upsets the balance in our superclime, the grand sum of all things influencing human cognition.
We were not evolved to require artificial wombs.
It used to be that some children simply died. This is called natural selection. It is part of human biology.
You do not want this, because you believe that it is morally wrong.
I say to you, morals are a function of society, which work to further that society, this is why they have changed over time, as what you would call science and the economy progressed.
And yet you are unable to unbind yourself from the notion of that child dying. You, in false believe, in empathy, put yourself into that situation, thinking the same could have happened to you.
Your being conscious, is as much a manifestation of your biology trying to fulfill its purpose, as an arm or a leg.
You could have never been that child. You are the product of everything you have experienced.
What you do not think about are the downstream effects of every transhumanist manifestation, the peril and suffering that it unleashes is already widespread.
In this case, a direct dysgenic process would be initiated, no doubt causing problems down the road, which no doubt you would also attempt to solve with more transhumanism.
The entire modern view on gender and sex is also essentially a manifestation of transhumanism, including birth control and abortions.
Now look at how these have ravaged families and the youth.
This is a slippery slope.
Your notion of making life more pleasant, can never be fulfilled, as there is no objective view on the quality of life, besides it's biological one, how well life serves its genetically engrained purpose in the context of its environment.
You can't accept this and hence you are already afraid, but of the wrong things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:08:08 2023 No.15730134 >>15730095 No you go listen to trannies

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:12:25 2023 No.15730140

>>15730129
>We were not evolved to require artificial wombs.
According to the birthrate decline, we evolved to require exactly them.
> The entire modern view on gender and sex is also essentially a manifestation of transhumanism, including birth control and abortions.
The campaign to promote pederasty is gay mafia trying to normalize their degeneracy before technology similar to ai as an additional brainpower makes all their sins obvious to everybody.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:28:39 2023 No.15730185 >>15730140 What is the birth rate decline caused by anon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 23:59:02 2023 No.15730220 >>15730185 Expectation of artificial wombs and designer babies for one. Expectation of cellular rejuvenation via genetic therapies for two. Mechanization and automation of productions for three. Your mom being an ugly whore for four.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:00:32 2023 No.15730223

>>15729216
You don't understand. Slaving away for Chaim Shekelgroober who is a billionaire paychopath with nothing but genocide and world conquest on his mind is meaningful. Maintaining basic plumbing and making sure the streets aren't overflowing with shit is, like, so low IQ plebian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:16:48 2023 No.15730245 >>15730223 >i am mentally ill

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:17:21 2023 No.15730246

>>15730220
So what you are saying is, that transhumanism led to a reduced birth rate, therefore, rather than getting rid of it, we should use more transhumanism to fix it, causing even more problems which we will then also fix with transhumanism?
It would be much quicker to just nuke ourselves.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:20:23 2023 No.15730249

>>15730245
>I am super high IQ for dedicating decades of my life developing skillsets that I can then dedicate to a modern slave driver that loathes me. This is my ambition.
>making sure the streets aren't overflowing with shit? Nah, that's like, super selfish and 0 ambition. You are so much more stupider than me, a superior being with ubermensch genome

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:22:22 2023 No.15730252

>>15730249
You're legit mentally ill. I have no idea what your incoherent rambling is about. This is actually quite characteristic for nu/sci/ - a good chunk of you are schizophrenics rambling against some voices living in your head and shitting out replies that have nothing to do with the points made by the posters you pester.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:28:11 2023 No.15730263 >>15729067 Proctologist/gastroenterologist are the highest paid non surgeons with comps in private practice of 1mil Plumbers are the highest paid tradies Janitors usually have the highest pay scale in retail Poop pays

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:32:02 2023 No.15730269

>>15730263
>Proctologist/gastroenterologist are the highest paid non surgeons with comps in private practice of 1mil
>Plumbers are the highest paid tradies
>Janitors usually have the highest pay scale in retail
>Bathroom janitors are usually the highest paid janitors
>Toilet scrubbers are usually the highest paid members of the bathroom janitor team at the local Walmart
>So I'm basically a proctologist

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 00:56:27 2023 No.15730303 >>15730223 >implying people of higher intelligence are more trapped in dead end jobs than people of lower intelligence ngmi

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:17:09 2023 No.15730337 >>15730252 Fuck off dude You are the mentally Ill who think your job===your ambitions Go suck on your ceo cock you cubicle slave

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:18:57 2023 No.15730339 >>15730337 See? Another patently insane reply about what the voices in your head think, getting projected onto me.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:24:06 2023 No.15730344

>>15730339
Nigger we can literally see all your comments. You keep calling high paying job “high aspiration” and low pays “low aspiration” what else to infer but your belief that “pay=level of aspiration”?
You are just insane and pathetic to think we didnt figure out your values by now

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:25:49 2023 No.15730347 >>15730344 >You keep calling high paying job “high aspiration” and low pays “low aspiration” You see? 100% psychiatric delusion.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:27:55 2023 No.15730349

>>15730344
There is no shortage of low IQ people, they are outbreeding the high IQ people within the country and undeveloped countries full of low IQ people have the highest fertility rates. We do not need more plumbers lol. Plumbers make up like 0.01% of the population.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:30:41 2023 No.15730355

>>15730349
Dude read the thread
The entire argument is about can an all engineered smart people in a society function as in someone is a surgeon and another is plumber
It’s not about OUR world currently
>>15730347
Fuck off looney people can see your comments

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:33:31 2023 No.15730361

>>15730355
>can an all engineered smart people in a society function as in someone is a surgeon and another is plumber
Obviously yes, the plumber will likely be better compensated as there is a shortage of people within his trade compared to now. Unless politicians use that "skill shortage" to import millions of low IQ people that is.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:34:51 2023 No.15730366

>>15730355
>Fuck off looney people can see your comments
I bet they can. Can they see the "comments" you hallucinated, though? The ones where I equated "high paying" with "high aspiration" etc.? Notice how you can't actually link to any such "comments", clinically subhuman redditor.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:36:04 2023 No.15730367

>>15730361
Yes well the guy me and several others “arguing” with don’t understand it, and I don’t care if he was at least coherent. But no he is just a low iq that just insults around without providing any useful info. Feels like arguing with retarded niggers on Twitter without a ban
>>15730366
You are literally a ctr f away from being proven wrong again
Sit down

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:37:44 2023 No.15730369

>>15730367
Notice how despite your psychotic rage, you failed to link to these "comments" where I equate "high pay" with "high aspiration" or whatever the voices said. Just so you know for next time, there are no "comments" on 4chan, inbred reddit trash. Your life will never have moral value.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:38:13 2023 No.15730371 >>15728499 >ctrl + f "penis" >"0" results

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:41:25 2023 No.15730377 >>15730369 Again, ctr f aspiration and it’s there. Go away. Adults are talking. Take your inbred ugga Bugga rage back to world star subreddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:44:40 2023 No.15730385 >>15730377 >it's there >only i keep shitting out post after post without linking it What a fucking parasite. The baord is worse than usual today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:45:45 2023 No.15730388 >>15730385 >board is worse Then fuck off back to the hole you came out of

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:48:10 2023 No.15730394 >>15730388 Still waiting for those posts you hallucinated. You will come crawling back to my for another (You) like a wounded animal, but you will not provide those hallucinated posts. :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:50:49 2023 No.15730399 >>15730394 Again , retard. I am just treating you the same. You can moan all you want. Everyone else know already what a retard you are anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:52:13 2023 No.15730402 >>15730399 You're not threatening me with ctrl+f anymore? What happened? And why do you keep coming back to me like a dog on a leash?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 01:55:57 2023 No.15730410 >>15730402 lol as if you control anyone everyone know you are mental anyway Why don’t you stop responding to whatever I say then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 02:13:17 2023 No.15730441 >>15728901 Based india, Smart children grow up into smart adults which create smart societies that benefit everyone. A single smart and productive child can feed a dozen or so people.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 02:19:31 2023 No.15730450

>>15728901
Lol something interesting I noticed
The more “advance”a country is, it has a higher negative reaction toward making their babies more intelligent. It’s like they literally forgot that their lifestyle and advancement is thanks to their genius forefathers
Just like how they think previous generations before them were “evil colonizer warmongers”
They actually taking their relative easy life in their developed nations as granted without realizing WHY they are so advanced
It’s so fucking sad

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 03:58:31 2023 No.15730635

>>15728499
why multiple generations? if SNP association is so good, we can surpass the speed of normal eugenics with this tech, just use GWAS and be done with it.
I need empirical results about these SNPs and I won't trust them until they can prove that they know what this shit does more than clinical/wetlabs do with their glowing rats and *actually* finding the causes of CF.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 04:38:11 2023 No.15730710 >>15730635 Compounding effects and fewer embryos required

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 05:39:22 2023 No.15730811 >>15728499 What will be the effect of polygenic risk scoring and will India and China when the genetics arms race against the West who are stymied by moral concerns.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:13:25 2023 No.15730974

>>15730246
>causing even more problems
It's problems is nothing in comparison to problems we had in the caves. Everything brings problem because there's no absolutes, so nothing is absolutely good or absolutely bad. You can focus on the problematic parts of any event and thus seem to prove that that event is bad, but it's sophistry, you should look at the subject from every possible angle. And yes people not getting old and not having to fight for their survival is a good thing, who would have thought! nigger, if you are so resentfut to envy, at least do it in silence, or better don't, you have some other superpower, intelligence is just not it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPeYcZHFoTk

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:19:24 2023 No.15730986 >>15730303 >my job is higher ambition and less greed driven because Chaim gives me a higher allowance for goyim toys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:20:48 2023 No.15730989 >>15730986 >The more you suck mr. Shekleberg cock, the less greedy you become.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:45:59 2023 No.15731032 >>15730410 Still nothing? You will reply again. You're on my leash. I control you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:48:22 2023 No.15731036 >>15731032 Lol leave your psych tactics You acting deranged because you lost the argument. Everyone agrees with me and the other dude everyone making fun of your retarded “high aspiration” bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 08:53:21 2023 No.15731044 @15731036 You are my pet. You will reply again. You crave my approval even more than that of your imaginary friends who "agree with you".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:20:15 2023 No.15731085 >>15731044 >>15731036

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:22:54 2023 No.15731091 >my pet golem will address me again, even though it's the equivalent of eating my dirty ass at this point

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:24:50 2023 No.15731094 >>15731044 Hahahha What a looney Ofcourse I gonna respond To miss such an opportunity to talk to a genuine mental case would be a shame

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:28:08 2023 No.15731098 >my pet golem will keep addressing me like the animal that it is because i won't let it off the leash

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:52:43 2023 No.15731146 >looney keep being observed by curious people >currently he believes he is a master psychologist

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 09:59:05 2023 No.15731159 I will leave my pet golem here and come back in an unspecified number of hours. My pet golem will still be here and adress me again when I call it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 10:15:50 2023 No.15731180 >looney appears to be tired >returning back to his cave he vows to return with more fury Fascinating observarion

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:16:12 2023 No.15732300 >>15728614 >we need Gammas and Deltas! you're exactly the sort of person that justifies mass immigration with the desperate need of the middle class for garden landscapers

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:20:51 2023 No.15732313 >>15732300 You're exactly the sort of person that licks my anus and my balls after I force-feed him his meds and he stops hallucinating things no one said or implied about mass migration.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:28:46 2023 No.15732334 >>15732313 like I said, the sort of person who needs pay José to lick his taint.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:36:48 2023 No.15732352 >>15732334 Literally just take your meds, brown subhuman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:05:26 2023 No.15734634 >>15728499 If you want to create autists, yes. >>15729076 Look at the faces and body of the top 1%... Plus they are inbred pedos.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:09:47 2023 No.15734647 >>15732313 lol you lose again mr “low aspiration jobs” people like you are the reason for brownified Europe and USA

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:10:20 2023 No.15734650 >>15734647 You're exactly the sort of person that licks my anus and my balls after I force-feed him his meds and he stops hallucinating things no one said or implied about mass migration.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:18:14 2023 No.15734669

>>15734650
How do you get your “low iq” toilet cleaners when
1- you don’t want to pay them right
2- you view then as “lesser” human beings because of “low aspiration” and make a culture to humiliate them
3-as a result no sane person want to be toilet scrubber
How you gonna find people to be toilet scrubber then? Oh yes you gonna import desperate people, pay them shit and let them breed more
That’s how immigration happens
Anyone with a brain can see that you are supporting that

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:32:50 2023 No.15734708 >>15734669 >How do you get your “low iq” toilet cleaners People with no special skills and talents do simple manual labor. It's the simple, natural order of things.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 19:50:04 2023 No.15734754

>>15734708
Again, how do you GET your low iqs when you not only paying them almost nothing to create a life, and ALSO humiliate them because of their job?
You being DESPERATE immigrants
That’s how your ilk of boomers have been destroying Europe and USA

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:05:00 2023 No.15734802

>>15734754
>how do you GET your low iqs
They just... get born?

>only paying them almost nothing to create a life
They used to get by just fine before your handlers decided to take "capitalism" to its ultimate conclusion.

>and ALSO humiliate them because of their job?
I don't humiliate manual workers. That's another one of your hallucination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:05:17 2023 No.15734803 >>15729405 I have about average intelligence and not a day goes by without seething over over the fact that I'm not on the level of someone like Einstein. so much shit is inaccessible to me and it's not fair.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:06:33 2023 No.15734808 It wouldn't work because God would exterminate you for your filthiness in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:06:39 2023 No.15734809 >>15734803 Yet another reason why average intelligence should be lowered rather than increased. lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:14:21 2023 No.15734831 >>15728566 uhhhh middle east???

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:22:42 2023 No.15734873 >>15734831 exception not the rule. also not all of the middle east just south of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:39:47 2023 No.15734952 >>15734873 >just south of it are you retarded? IQ is genetic and no amount of coping can change that

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:42:46 2023 No.15734956

>>15734802
>I don’t humiliate
Calling them low iq, low aspiration people is humiliation
>they just get born?
Sure. But when you don’t pay them right nor respect them as valuable humans (which shows since you don’t even pay them right) they will get jaded and stop working in those sections
Then you end up importing shitskins to fill their place , until your entire nation is shitskin

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:44:09 2023 No.15734959 >>15734831 >oil infrastructures made by white man, >maintained by white man and now chinks Else?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:50:27 2023 No.15734969 >>15734952 no you're retarded. he was talking about how middle easterners are dumbshits yet they have good GDP

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:55:26 2023 No.15734979 >>15734969 you replied to the wrong guy right?? I'm the one making that claim. >>15734959 retard

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:58:36 2023 No.15734983

>>15734979
Ok
What else makes their gdp high? Their “smart” people? You mean the Indians and pakis they import as temp workers, work then like slaves and kick them out at age of 60 without giving them citizenship? Or is it the minority Arabs who lives in bliss?
Tbh, their method of migration is the only way to fill up jobs that no one wants, without increasing the pay, or displacing their own people
We should learn from them

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:59:54 2023 No.15734986

>>15734956
>Calling them low iq
That's not an insult. That's an objective statement of fact.

>when you don’t pay them right
Already covered this. They used to get by just fine before your handlers decided to take "capitalism" to its ultimate conclusion. Why are you this fucking stupid?

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 21:09:22 2023 No.15735003

>>15734986
>they used to be ok to live like shit
Lol ye ok. So it’s ok to keep a section of people of your nation in a miserable existent, but your rich, oh they are so different. They need to live in wealth and health and different type of mental stimulations.
And then you wonder why this country will be over run by shitskins

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 21:43:17 2023 No.15735089

>>15735003
>they used to be ok to live like shit
Not what I said. Why do you keep trying to lie your way out of this?

>So it’s ok to keep a section of people of your nation in a miserable existent,
Nigger, if you're so worried about them, go do something about your handlers and their """economic system""". What the FUCK does it have to do with eugenics?

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 21:55:00 2023 No.15735113

>>15735089
It has to do everything with eugenics.
You want to create slave and master castes. You want to deliberately create retards to fill up the roles of toilet scrubbers, pay them shit and then humiliate them too.
While your other creation, the very smart, lives in wealth and wealth and happiness.
Your idea is even worse than brave new world and that was considered a dystopia.
In brave new world, the engineered people to be dumb and smart, short and tall, ugly and beautiful and filled up different section of job forces based on these attributes. But even then, the rich smart didn’t see the dumb ugly as lower and dumb ugly didn’t loath the smart beautiful, for he was feeling respected and had a living pay.
Not only you want to have dumb people in your eugenic world, but you also want them to feel like crap and live like shit.
Write a book man. Your world would be the TRUE dystopia.
It’s funny that you keep talking about “capitalism bad” while defending capitalism practice of “pay then nothing”

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:09:18 2023 No.15735136

>>15735113
>You want to create slave and master castes. You want to deliberately create retards
LOL. You're completely insane. I don't want or need to "create" retards. Retards get created spontaneously, as the case has always been. I also don't seek to lord it over them as a "master caste", either. They exist, they serve an essential function and I see no problem with it. People like you should scrub toilets.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:13:51 2023 No.15735146

>>15735136
>I don’t humiliate them. I just pay them nothing and expect them to stay in destitute without complaining
In eugenics, you are basically breeding people. If you breed some people to be smarter, then according to your “we need dumb people to scrub toilets” you leave some to breed naturally or again, breed them to be dumb, thus creating slave and master, dumb and smart castes.
You have a chance to breed them so all can be smart, but noooo. You need toilet scrubbers and they MUST be low paid retards. So you allow the creation of retards to be continued even though you can stop it.
That’s genuinely insane and dystopian

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:16:56 2023 No.15735153

>>15735146
>I just pay them nothing
Your handlers pay them nothing. If you have a problem with """capitalism""" go settle it with your handlers. We've been over this several times.

> If you breed some people to be smarter, then according to your “we need dumb people to scrub toilets” you leave some to breed naturally or again, breed them to be dumb, thus creating slave and master, dumb and smart castes.
Again, I dont' think we need to "breed some people to be smarter". I certainly think we need to sterilize you by force, but this whole 80 IQ "breed smart people" idea has nothing to do with me. You're mental.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:19:39 2023 No.15735159

>>15735153
You are the person who says “toilet scrubbers were ok to get paid nothing and capitalism changed that and made them greedy” and now you are saying that it’s capitalism that doesn't pay them right?
Which one is it then?
>he is talking about eugenics
>breeding smarter people is not part of his eugenic plan
Lol ok

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:24:07 2023 No.15735174 >>15735159 >You are the person who says “toilet scrubbers were ok to get paid nothing and capitalism changed that and made them greedy” No, that's literally just you having a psychotic fit. lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:41:28 2023 No.15735200 >>15735174 Here>>15734986 and here >>15734802 >they used to get by fine before “capitalism” intervened

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:44:55 2023 No.15735209 >>15735200 >>they used to get by fine before “capitalism” intervened 1. Literally not what the post says. 2. Even your faked greentext doesn't support your schizo accusations Be honest: are you from this place: >>>/pol/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:49:30 2023 No.15735224 >>15735209 Go fuck off inbred. There is no discussion with you, if you keep changing the topic like a snake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 22:50:24 2023 No.15735227 >>15735224 Do you post on /pol/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:02:42 2023 No.15735249 >>15735227 Again fuck off with your side questions. You have failed, and everyone here knows that you are very mental and illogical.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:05:26 2023 No.15735255 >>15735249 You're by far the dumbest /pol/monkey on this board, I'll give you that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:51:41 2023 No.15735368 >>15735255 >muh pol Even pol is better than your bullshit that you have posted here

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:55:58 2023 No.15735375 >>15735368 Even the bullshit I have posted here is better than the bullshit you have posted here. You are completely incoherent. Did you get banned from /pol/? Is that it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:58:21 2023 No.15735379 >>15735375 Yes your bullshit of “low iq need to have less luxury, give all the luxury to high iq” is sure good way to manage the society You are insane

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:59:16 2023 No.15735381

>>15729067
What's the point of Toliet scrubbing if you're gonna pay like shit? I'm not gonna work a job that doesn't help me survive, how fucking dumb are you? It's like saying mc donald workers should be paid super shitty but expect people to actually work and serve you? Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:01:48 2023 No.15735389 >>15735381 >What's the point of Toliet scrubbing The point is that people like you have no choice but to scrub my toilet.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:12:35 2023 No.15735412

>>15730129
Natural selection is not an objective argument unless you take the subjective moral axiom that things which last longer are better.
Evolution only explains the changes in the proportion of different types of self-propagating systems in a population over time. Any objective view of meaning you place on that requires another axiom

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:16:08 2023 No.15735417 >>15735412 >his point > > > >your head

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:23:57 2023 No.15735434 >>15735389 The point is that your shit ideal results in mass immigration

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:25:55 2023 No.15735439 >>15735434 No, it doesn't. You're insane. Now scrub my toilet, scrubby boy. Scrub it like you mean it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:28:25 2023 No.15735447

>>15735113
>Write a book mannnn. It's like, your world that is the true dystopia mannnnn.
You are leaving out the quintessential aspect of the brave new world society that makes it worse than even INGSOC, the use of psychotropic and mood altering drugs to brainwash people into a lull of complacency. The regular society was effectively identical to our own, even at the time he wrote it. The Soma is the key.
The fact you left it out implies you are an SSRI/Xanax popping-cock sucking retard that gargles balls every Tuesday after going to the local barcade to pick up homosexuals. You need to go back.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:36:15 2023 No.15735466

>>15735447
I talked about soma here in the same very thread you fucking braindead refuse, ctrl F that.
In brave new world, soma was not the only thing that kept them in check. An entire brain washing process from childhood also ensured that they don’t see each other as superior or inferior, but just enough for their position in society.
Yet your own fucked up “utopia” demands that people with lower iq need to be kept in horrible condition and in low pay. It is 10 times worse than the entire brave new world.
You assume too many things about me, yet none is true.
>>15735439
I scrubbed your mama’s puss if you know what I mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 00:41:57 2023 No.15735480 >>15735466 I have three toilets in my house. Maybe if you work hard you'll earn enough for bus fare so you can go home instead of staying in my shed tonight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:05:12 2023 No.15735521 >>15735480 You can’t even respond to all the questions asked or you. >I have 3 toilets even though I have one ass >clean it for basically free Typical refugee-needeR

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 08:48:37 2023 No.15736177

>>15728499
work to do what is already, more or less, being done? the only advantage an isolated approach would have over filtering systems already in place is the early identification of gifted children. i think you vastly overestimate the intellectual capabilities of humans. now if you combine with genetic/synthetic engineering, then you'd be cooking with fire. but even then the results would pale in comparison to AGI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:22:08 2023 No.15736571 >>15728499 >select It does it by itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:27:36 2023 No.15736583 >>15728499 What would they say to each other?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:31:05 2023 No.15736588 >>15728499 >repeat over multiple generations holy fuck youre retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:42:13 2023 No.15736599 >>15736583 I’m smarter than you No, I am I was the first one No, I fucked up on this one Natureeee flashes titties

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:51:56 2023 No.15736614 >>15736583 This is why I don’t fuck with whites

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:56:25 2023 No.15736620 >>15728499 >develop the children in chambers How

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 13:58:51 2023 No.15736623 toilet for 60

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 14:02:44 2023 No.15736626 >>15736620 Giving them names

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 14:06:36 2023 No.15736640 >>15736614 I don’t fuck with jannies I came here to swing dick around Where they at

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 14:14:51 2023 No.15736650 >>15736177 >gifted children Talk straight some guy is recording the thread

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