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1) We know that life can exist on a suitable planet of the universe; it has already happened here; it has managed to achieve the 2nm transistor and it keeps advancing.
2) We know that there are _at least_ (observable) ~10 to the 24th solar systems that is at least 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or a trillion trillion systems.
3) It's statistically impossible for them to not exist since the inverse of the number of suitable planets is smaller than the planck constant.

Main issue is that the vastness of space in combination with the speed of light limit makes it likely impossible to meet most of them.
Now there's also the interesting dark forest theory; advanced aliens are already near; but they don't think it helps them to help.
Probability itself is not much of an issue since the permutations are approximately unlimited and the probability non-zero.

The "humans are special" hypothesis is religious nonsense.
Even on earth some animals are smart and almost there.
Just this 1 solar system alone has almost-earths.

>> No.15705658

>>15705619
>Suitable planets
Meaningless when we don’t know where life came from. What if the probability of the chemical reaction leading to abiogenesis plus all of the other things that have to to go right (protection from asteroids, like Jupiter provides for us, a relatively large moon, potentially a major collision with another body like Theia to kickstart things) for a civilization to develop is 1 in 10 to the power of googolplex?

>> No.15705659

On only one planet did the Word become flesh.

>> No.15705699 [DELETED] 

>>15705658
it doesn't matter much. the permutations are almost unlimited. approximately an non-zero probability would approach the final probability to ~1 and just this 1 solar system alone has a couple of other almost-earths so the per-solar-system probability is obviously not approaching anywhere near 0.

>> No.15705701

>>15705658
it doesn't matter much. the permutations are almost unlimited. approximately: any non-zero probability would make the final probability to approach ~1 and just this 1 solar system alone has a couple of other almost-earths so the per-solar-system probability is obviously not approaching anywhere near 0.

>> No.15705703

>>15705659
religious nonsense. the laws of physics are universal. there is no evidence earth's physics are special.

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>> No.15705729

>1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 systems
>most of these have a small number of shitty gas giants
>exactly seven of the rocky bodies are in regions with enough sulfur and phosphorus
>therefore, the expectation value is that there are two planets with life in this 200 billion year period
>Earth is one of them
you can do it anon, find the other planet!

>> No.15705730

>>15705701
>the counterexample to everything else in the universe is to be taken as NORMAL!
finally, the copernican retards have unmasked themselves

>> No.15705731

>>15705729
just this one system, has a couple of other shitholes that almost became earths.

and you can't say we're that special since the physics are same and we had threats.

>> No.15705737

>>15705730
>the universe is to be taken as NORMAL
go back to church churchboi.

>> No.15705797

>>15705619
Logically speaking, if you was an alien and looked at earth and humans, would you say that humans are the thing that's reproducing or that other things like technology are reproducing and humans are like the workers that nurture the tech larva?

>> No.15705929

>>15705797
laws of physics are common. there's no reason to assume humans or aliens are that special.

I wouldn't be surprised if most aliens are humanoids too (or close at least).