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How fucking hard can it be to make a machine to suck in air and oxygenate blood? How fucking hard can it be to make a pump to replace the heart? The body is a machine, why haven't we figured out a way to mechanise it as the old parts wear out??

>> No.15705351

It's not that simple

>> No.15705352

haha its just hard yo

>> No.15705353

>>15705352
>>15705351
We walk around with tiny supercomputers in our pockets that can make portals for our images and words to travel through to the other side of the world, how the hell can that be harder than a PUMP and getting ONE molecule (O2) into a cell??!?

>> No.15705355

>>15705350
overpopulation

>> No.15705357
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>>15705350
you know you're dealing with a redditier when every third word out of them is "fuck"

>> No.15705360

>>15705353
>We can't make artificial cardiovascular system? then how come we have semiconductor industry
whataboutism

>> No.15705368

>>15705353
>we landed on the Moon, why haven't we landed on the Sun?

>> No.15705402

>>15705357
kek, i'm glad i'm not the only person that thinks this. there is a 90% chance of the poster having stunted mental development if they write a bad word in every sentence

>> No.15705414

>>15705350
Yeah it's called a heart lung machine

>> No.15705470

>>15705350
Since when don't they have this?

>> No.15705530

>>15705402
>thinking you can judge someone's intelligence from their typing style when talking informally and using semi-ironic phrasing
Found the midwit

>> No.15705821

>>15705350
Even if such technologies exist, ordinary people won't get access to it.

>> No.15705824

>>15705350
>The body is a machine, why haven't we figured out a way to mechanise it as the old parts wear out??
Because the body is not a machine and your understanding is stuck in 19th century pseudoscience.

>> No.15705837

>>15705821
Normal people have had heart pumps while waiting for a transplant. Or, it's more like a heart turbine. The problem with it though was that it ended up shredding blood cells with the propeller, so it's more of a short term thing to keep the patient alive for a few weeks max. People who have had them would talk about how weird it was to have an electric hum instead of a heartbeat

>> No.15705959

>>15705821
>DUDE even if we could FIX EYES with hekkin LASERS do you think the average DUDERINO will get such a STAR WARS epic TECHONOLOGY????

>> No.15705973

>>15705959
Your eyesight has no effect on the population reduction bottom line but ruining your eyesight and then "fixing" it lines someone's pockets.

>> No.15706003

>>15705973
>lines someone's pockets.
This.
90% of orthodontics can be prevented by proper mouth posture and intervention if for instance swallowing technique is wrong. The necessity of this intervention itself can be prevented by introducing the right food at the right stage of a baby/toddler.

Same for eyesight. Lazy eyes are fixed by training them with an eye patch. You can fix near and farsightedness in more or less the same way.

>US orthodontics market 3 billion
>Lasik 600 million
>Glasses and contact lenses 34 billion

>> No.15706208

>>15705353
your portals are aether smoke signals, retard.
And your messages are drawings
>but radio is le magical
fuck off

>> No.15706212

>>15705353
>how the hell can that be harder than a PUMP and getting ONE molecule (O2) into a cell??!?
Almost like your premise is false.

>> No.15706229

>>15705353
Building computers and rigid metal devices is easier than dealing with biology.

>> No.15706230

>>15706229
Bullshit. It's just a fucking MACHINE neatly decomposable into LITTLE PARTS that can be REASONED ABOUT AND FULLY UNDERSTOOD IN ISOLATION, with SIMPLE AND WELL-DEFINED PURPOSES, just like my HECKIN' PHONE, ok???????

>> No.15706238

>>15706230
>Can be reasoned about
In English please

>> No.15706243

>>15705350
Artifical hearts already exist anon. It is not a stable technology and development is still in progress. The problem comes with their compatibility with the host body since the latter constantly defends itself from intrusive parts including non-biological devices. The power problem comes as a second set back since it is not known how to convert signals from the brain into regulative signal and it is not a safe choice to make a heart that heavily depends on lithium batteries.

>> No.15706399

>>15706238
stop being russophobic.

>> No.15706400

>>15706238
>>15706399
>this level of mental illness

>> No.15706413

>>15705353
>>15705350
why exactly do you care about this?

>> No.15706689

>>15705353
The prozess of electrochemistry your heart and lung do is a mystery to soience.
Or the know and withhold the information from the common men.

It is not a MECHANIC phenomenon but a electrochemical phenomenon.
Literally nobody knows how this works.

>> No.15706823

>>15705837
Why does it need a turbine? Can't they do it with a peristaltic pump?

>> No.15706853
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>>15705350
that already exists though?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiopulmonary_bypass

>> No.15707209

>>15706853
Well done, you did basic research before posting. Consider that post your graduation certificate from /sci/.

>> No.15707216

>>15705837
The inventors were expecting to find a bunch of weird side effects from having a continuous flow instead of a surging heart beat but it turned out that the body isn't actually dependent on the surge/stop pumping action as long as the blood is oxygenated.

>> No.15707217

>>15705350
>>15705353
The heart isn't a pump, the body isn't a mere mechanical machine. You've been lied to by extreme simplifications, misnomers, and faulty understandings.

>> No.15707218

>>15705357
fuck you nigger

>> No.15707220

>>15706003
How do you fix astigmatism?

>> No.15707221

>>15706243
Why is it that titanium implants in your bones can last decade(s) but you can't do that for the heart? Direct contact with large volumes of blood?

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>>15705350
Is easy AF as long as you have the right tools and you are not too attached to your apelike body.

>> No.15707264

>>15705959
Why do you exaggerate so?

>> No.15707361

>>15705350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap1co5ZZHYE
Much like the moon landing, we lost a great deal of information in the burning of the first internet.

>> No.15707369

>>15705837
>fap
>have jet powered ponos

>> No.15707405

>>15705350
>fucking fuck fuck
Grow up.