/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15701019]

How do wind turbines kill whales? Are porpoises leaping into the spinning turbine blades?

[Anonymous No.15701037]

Please, don't post the documentary. Do you even want a discussion?

[Anonymous No.15701043]

Also why do environmentalists love wind turbines so much if they slaughter whales? Aren't environmentalists supposed to like whales?

[Anonymous No.15701044]

>>15701043
Orcas are literally the niggers of the ocean.

[Anonymous No.15701047]

>>15701044
Pretty sure niggers are the niggers of the ocean.
Just not for very long.

[Anonymous No.15701048]

>>15701019
>No source
>No link
>How does this happen!?!?
>refuses to cite article your image comes from
Fuck off to /b/ you idiot troller.

[Anonymous No.15701049]

>>15701043
Post the documentary, faggot

[Anonymous No.15701050]

>>15701019

Over the years I have come to realize modern environmentalist HATE ALL DEVELOPMENT.
There are environmentalist complaining about solar farms in the DESERT!!
Modern environmentalist see HUMANS as the enemy.
They have become a death cult,actively working for the destruction of mankind.

[Anonymous No.15701055]

>>15701050
>thread against the development of wind turbines
>environmentalists are against development
So, is OP an environmentalist? I thought he was more of a coal shill if he fearmongers about wind turbines.

[Anonymous No.15701088]

>>15701055
Wind turbines actually incentivize the installation of CCGT and peaker plant power generation, because wind is intermittent, so then you burn gas on-demand.

[Anonymous No.15701119]

>>15701088
Ok? It's still good to harvest wind power when you can.

[Anonymous No.15701192]

>>15701119
wind turbines restrict natural atmospheric convective cooling activity which in turn causes the greenhouse effect and global warming, it then takes the energy which would have gone into convective cooling and uses it to run electric stoves and space heaters which causes further global warming.

[Anonymous No.15701196]

>>15701050
not true

[Anonymous No.15701198]

>>15701192
lmao. This sounds like a very early GPT coming up with sciency stuff by forming sentences of buzzwords

[Anonymous No.15701203]

>>15701019
>How do wind turbines kill whales
I think it is the sonar they use when scanning the sea floor while looking for a build location.

[Anonymous No.15702073]

>>15701196
how to save our BURNING AND DYING planet (that was supposed to loose all of its glaciers 3 years ago in 2020) mr climate expert?

[Anonymous No.15702080]

>>15702073
>that was supposed to loose all of its glaciers 3 years ago in 2020
Who said that?
Also, loose is your mom's vagina. The correct spelling is "lose"

[Anonymous No.15702081]

>>15701043
Environmentalists don't love animals, they just hate humans.

[Anonymous No.15702090]

>>15701019
Probably noise related somehow.

[Anonymous No.15702091]

>>15702080
mr climate expert answer how to save our burning and dying planet

[Anonymous No.15702098]

>>15701196
It's 100% true. CO2 is an existential threat, yet environmentalists fight to shut down nuclear power, resulting in more coal burning.
What they really want is less humans.

[Anonymous No.15702104]

>>15701019
wind turbines kill anything that uses the earth's magnetic pole to navigate.

Its a giant electrical engine and the magnetic field it generates is massive enough to make birds fly around them in circles until they die.

I suppose i've never heard whales navigate through magnetism like birds do but that would make sense.

[Anonymous No.15702107]

>>15702080
goodbye to the glaciers mr climate expert

[Anonymous No.15702108]

>>15702104
Many such cases. You see confused birds flying in circles over the Scandinavian offshore wind parks. Basically all migratory birds are extinct today because they all fell in the Baltic Sea.

[Anonymous No.15702112]

>>15702104
imagine if your physical ability to navigate the world completely shut down when you were near a specific real world place and your senses stopped giving you reliable information.

It's a nightmarish scenario that i could only compare to being in a paranomal situation where something large has disoriented and will eventually hit you with its blades and you die.

[Anonymous No.15702128]

>>15702107
>Published in ... um ... some info board for tourists
lmao do warming deniers even? It doesn't even refer to all glaciers but just the ones in whatever national park this was posted. IT DOES NOT EVEN SAY THAT THEY WOULD VANISH! It talks about an "indication", not some sort of "this is definitely going to happen" or something like that. I need some hard liquor to process this level of idiocy.

[Anonymous No.15702133]

>>15702128
drink yourself to death you cult lunatic

[Anonymous No.15702137]

>>15702112
It's a little bit like the media telling us not to have kids and we're destroying the world while we need to cheer for mass immigration.

[Anonymous No.15702143]

>>15702133
>Everything that is written down somewhere reflects the unchallengeable consensus of the scientific community
>local tourism officials are the literal popes of the scientific consensus. Their words are as good as the IPCC reports
>Information boards are what dogma is for the church

[Anonymous No.15702144]

>>15702128
why do you have to "update" your "indications" every few fucking years?

[Anonymous No.15702149]

>>15702144
>why do your models get better?
>why do you take new data to improve your understanding of the past?
>how dare you do scientific research? I thought you were just paid shills

[Anonymous No.15702156]

>>15701050
The only development you're interested in, is your patron oil company developing a higher profit.

[Anonymous No.15702184]

>>15702149
your models don't get better, they get more sensational

[Anonymous No.15702226]

>>15701050
They only hate first world humans. They absolutely LOVE third world humans. Second world humans, to the extent that second world countries still exist, are loved in theory but their suffering is ignored because it's ideologically inconvenient that things don't go well for them.

[Anonymous No.15702640]

>>15702156
Al Gore's entire family fortune came from Occidental Petroleum

[Anonymous No.15703409]

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[Anonymous No.15703606]

>>15701119
Wind turbines are ridiculously expensive for what little energy they produce, and the instability they add to electrical grids.
I remember sitting through an Allianz workshop (about new/emerging insurance markets) circa 10 years ago, and they mentioned that a bog-standard land-based mast-style turbine was $3 million (they're likely more expensive now).
And that's not counting site preparation cost (unlike greenwashing propaganda, you can't just plop them down anywhere), maintenance/repairs (they break down all the time), or grid modification costs.
Specialty turbines like offshore ones are even more expensive.
Frankly, the only turbines somewhat worth building are those power module ones that combine vertical axis turbines and solar panels in a sort of cube, which get placed on top of skyscrapers. They use convective currents created by the surrounding urban heat island (plus the wind tunnel effect from all the high-rise buildings) and also help cool the solar panels on top (photovoltaics drop in efficiency if they heat up too much).

[Anonymous No.15703636]

>>15702107
I mean some of them are gone so they weren't totally wrong

[Anonymous No.15703728]

>>15703636
none of them are gone

[Anonymous No.15703871]

>>15701203
You've got that wrong. Its a misunderstanding because the radar used to identify oil and gas deposits that harms sealife, and people assume the same of the ones used in wind site surveys, but they aren't powerful enough and have a very narrow swath width

[Anonymous No.15703876]

>>15703606
>circa 10 years ago, and they mentioned that a bog-standard land-based mast-style turbine was $3 million (they're likely more expensive now).
congratulations on your retardation

[Anonymous No.15703905]

>>15703876
Anon, everything is more expensive now compared to a few years back, thanks to wuflu aftershocks and the Chinese being cunts.
And wind turbines are a mature technology, unlike solar. There's no miraculous new tech that makes efficiency jump upwards: a wind turbine is a dynamo spun by airfoils. And there's no meme superconductive quantum magnet in the pipeline.

[Anonymous No.15703921]

>>15701019
Wind turbines serve no porpoise.

[Anonymous No.15703926]

>>15701192
>>wind turbines restrict natural atmospheric convective cooling activity
so do trees, and probably a lot more than any turbine

[Anonymous No.15704029]

>>15701019
>>15701037
>>15701048
>>15701049
Learn how to use google. It's a documentary written by a literal who trying to get famous. The article is plastered on dozens of sites and they all appear to be pretty much identical. He's probably popular with /pol/ right now because he wrote something about some jewish school having a 40 million dollar budget.

The NOAA says it's bullshit.
https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/new-england-mid-atlantic/marine-life-distress/frequent-questions-offshore-wind-and-whales
We work with our partners to analyze and understand the causes of death when we are able, following the science and data. At this point, there is no scientific evidence that noise resulting from offshore wind site characterization surveys could potentially cause mortality of whales. There are no known links between recent large whale mortalities and ongoing offshore wind surveys.

[Anonymous No.15704035]

>>15701044
Well we're at war with them right now so it sure might seem that way, but let me tell you that you're wrong and sound like quite the nigger yourself

[Anonymous No.15704704]

>>15703926
no they don't, trees are natural

[Anonymous No.15704755]

>>15704704
I didn't say trees are unnatural, I said they restrict natural atmospheric convection. They slow down wind, everybody with trees knows that.

[Anonymous No.15704901]

>>15704755
thats a natural process

[Anonymous No.15704937]

>>15704901
Who said it isn't? Nigger.

[Anonymous No.15704982]

>>15704937
the n word is racist

[Anonymous No.15705091]

>>15701055
USER WAS TANNED ON THIS COST

[Anonymous No.15705186]

>>15703606
>10 years ago
Anon the big ones are hitting 16MW now, a decade is a long long time ago, just like EV's and solar tech

[Anonymous No.15705192]

>>15703606
>They use convective currents created by the surrounding urban heat island (plus the wind tunnel effect from all the high-rise buildings) and also help cool the solar panels on top (photovoltaics drop in efficiency if they heat up too much).
Didn't know about them. Neat. I dig tech that utilizes hybrid technologies to improve the efficiencies of one of the two.

[Anonymous No.15705614]

>53 posts later
>still nobody knows how windmills kill whales
maybe the whales somehow get poisoned by eating too many of the dead birds that are falling into the ocean

[Anonymous No.15705639]

>>15702144
normally I'd assume you're just playing dumb and trolling, but I've seen enough people being sincere
>why do you have to "update" your "indications" every few fucking years?
you faggots are just as retarded as the IFLS climate cultists "everyone will be dead by 2030", only a mirror version
it's very tiresome

[Anonymous No.15705677]

>>15705192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vJuKxAIMuA

[Anonymous No.15705734]

>>15701044
that would be dolphins
orcas are bros

[Anonymous No.15706803]

>>15705614
lol

[Anonymous No.15707643]

>>15701037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tKZ3DkaDGw

[Anonymous No.15707672]

>>15701019
It says in the heading of the picture you posted of the article that ”building offshore wind farms does kill whales”. Not ”offshore wind farms does kill whales”.

[Anonymous No.15707801]

>>15701192
kek, we somehow alleviate this effect. maybe with increase our essential lead intake?

[Anonymous No.15709227]

>>15705614
Thats the best hypothesis this thread has produced so far

[Anonymous No.15709389]

>>15701019
Roughly 1 out of 25 wind turbines is installed upside down by accident

[Anonymous No.15709440]

>>15701050
all development kills animals in massive amounts u retard
how much wildlife is run over by cars every day? stfu

[Anonymous No.15710128]

turbines be fucking up their echolocation, they get discombobulated, are essentially retards, lose track of each other and starve or isolate themselves to be killed by predators

[Anonymous No.15710179]

>>15701019
>How do wind turbines kill whales?
I'm guessing the construction does it. Maybe corrosion of the cable insulation can cause the seawater around them to be electrified.

[Anonymous No.15710456]

Why don't they let people eat all the dead whales? Whale meat is delicious.

[Anonymous No.15711795]

>>15701043
They'll be starting up with a "save the whales" tax soon enough

[Anonymous No.15712858]

Nobody has enough IQ points to figure out how wind turbines kill whales?

[Anonymous No.15712863]

>>15705614
See
>>15704029

[Anonymous No.15714432]

>>15704029
>The NOAA says it's bullshit.
NOAA is a government propaganda agency, not a source of scientific information, if the people at NOAA admitted that dead whales keep up washing up on the beach because of the administration's decision to build big gay wind twirllies then those people at NOAA would lose their jobs

[Anonymous No.15714450]

>>15714432
Nonsense. Wind farms are privately owned. Nobody at the NOAA would lose their jobs, they would just tell the companies that own the wind farms to solve the noise problem or shut it down.

[Anonymous No.15715494]

>>15714450
They're political appointees, they would lose their jobs if they did anything that was unpopular with their political bosses

[Anonymous No.15715508]

>>15702104
>magnetic field it generates is massive enough to make birds fly around them in circles until they die.
highly doubt it.
It's just a regular generator, big as it may be it's no different than others, and the magnetic field outside the machine is hardly noticeable at all.
how come the problem doesn't affect other gens?

[Anonymous No.15716580]

>>15715494
NOAA (((scientists))) are not just political appointees, they also couldn't get a job outside NOAA with their worthless degrees, so they're dependent on their employment for survival, which is the real reason why their political bosses can treat them like captive slaves

[Anonymous No.15717658]

>>15701044
at least they know how to swim

[Anonymous No.15717700]

>>15704035
(((we)))

[Anonymous No.15718212]

>>15717658
Reminder that Rodney king was awarded a vast fortune as a result of his getting caught speeding while driving under the influence with no drivers license and then resisting arrest and he used the money to buy a fancy house with a pool which he then proceeded to drown in

[Anonymous No.15718860]

>>15715494
>>15716580
Complete nonsense. Why do you feel you have to make things up to protect your world view?

[Anonymous No.15719531]

>>15718860
>government appointees aren't appointed for their willingness to enforce political correctness

[Anonymous No.15719560]

>>15701019
I've heard its due to the vibrations

[Anonymous No.15719602]

>>15701019

Oh I don't know, I don't think they're so bad, they sever a youthful porpoise.

[Anonymous No.15719630]

>>15719531
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.15720681]

>>15719630
>low iq canned response

[Anonymous No.15721307]

>>15720681
The irony.

[Anonymous No.15722059]

>>15719560
How do vibrations kill whales?

[Anonymous No.15723010]

>>15722059
Nobody has any idea why they're dying

[Anonymous No.15723035]

>>15701019
it's debunked by the news editor, hence the apostrophes around 'proven'
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8AHkAJrpAxd4/

[Anonymous No.15723279]

>>15701019
they vibrate and create low frequency sounds that make the whales probably go insane or disrupts something thus wind turbines could kill whales. There is also the theory that wind turbines dry out air therefore Europe is increasingly getting less rain. No energy source is risk free everything has a side effect refusing to research or consider these options is very unscientific.

[Anonymous No.15724298]

>>15723279
everything about global warming is unscientific

[Anonymous No.15724304]

>>15701019
I'll buy that argument for now.

But whats the scale? Boating kills whales. Submarine kills whales. Tsunamis can kill whales. Diving too deep can kill whale.

[Anonymous No.15724305]

>>15724304
Further, solar panels/wind turbines on land can kill birds. Gas cars/Coal plants kill millions each year from pollution.

[Anonymous No.15725531]

>>15724305
>Gas cars/Coal plants kill millions each year from pollution.
no they don't. you can repeat that lie all you want, but you can't produce any evidence that its true