/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15675393]

Stainless edition

previous: >>15672099

[Anonymous No.15675397]

>>15675393
you can't just build a space capable rocket in a dimly lit dirty hangar. It just doesn't work like that

[Anonymous No.15675401]

With orbital propellant depots, you can go anywhere.

[Anonymous No.15675410]

The Stainless Steel Rrat Goes to Space edition

[Anonymous No.15675415]

>>15675397
The crudeness of the ship construction and storage is hilarious. It's the largest, most powerful rocket ever created and it is being welded together in an open air hanger and stored outside.

[Anonymous No.15675417]

>>15675410
ogey

[Anonymous No.15675419]

>>15675401
Would Starship depots make SpaceX the first orbital gas station chain?

[Anonymous No.15675426]

>>15675419
only if they allowed other people's spacecraft to use them

[Anonymous No.15675444]

>>15675415
Anything that needs cleanrooms is not truly mass producible.

[Anonymous No.15675445]

>>15675415
This makes me wonder how they plan to deploy clean room satellites from their rusty and dusty rocket fairings.

[Anonymous No.15675449]

>>15675415
Look up how they built rockets up to and including Redstone back in the day

A bunch of pipe fitters, panel beaters and construction workers just bent, riveted and welded the rocket together in an open field

[Anonymous No.15675454]

>>15675445
just wipe the dust off first

[Anonymous No.15675457]

>>15675445
They're going to employ teams of Mexicans to detail the spaceships.

[Anonymous No.15675463]

>>15675445
Truly, humans have never invented methods to clean objects. Only JPL can solve with problem if given a five billion dollar budget.

[Anonymous No.15675469]

Any bets on who will build the airlock module, since it's obvious that Pock Cock Mock won't be doing so?

[Anonymous No.15675479]

[Anonymous No.15675490]

What would it take for starship cultists to finally give up?

[Anonymous No.15675491]

Was the X-15 a spaceplane?

[Anonymous No.15675494]

>>15675490
I'll stop posting if the launch site gets totally leveled by an exploding booster.

[Anonymous No.15675495]

>>15675490
excessive raptor failures during static fires and test flights.

[Anonymous No.15675499]

>>15675491
Yes, it went above the Karman line and needed to use a rocket engine and RCS due to lack of air.

[Anonymous No.15675505]

>>15675469
what is that?

[Anonymous No.15675509]

>>15675505
Critical component to the orbital toll booth. Because reasons, Russia won't or can't build it, endangering the useless project. Everything aside, Russia has done us all a favour by kneecapping that piece of shit space station.

[Anonymous No.15675543]

>>15675509
It's not completely useless as long as NASA is being forced to use Orion to ferry astronauts between Earth and lunar orbit, in which case Gateway will substantially increase the amount of time that Orion (and the non-landing crew) can linger at the Moon compared to orbiting on its own. Of course, if NASA were ever permitted to use Starship and other commercial spacecraft for the entire mission (rather than just as a lander), Gateway likely becomes obsolete.

[Anonymous No.15675570]

>>15675543
If SpaceX develops HLS and starship gets certified for crew, couldn't they technically just do their own moon landing with some crewed starships and LEO and lunar orbit duel depots ahead of Artemis just to shit on NASA and every other government space program? Just develop HLS and then say "oops don't wanna sell it to you, here's your contract money back".

[Anonymous No.15675582]

>>15675410
>Stainless Steel Rat
Dunno why that never got filmed

[Anonymous No.15675587]

>>15675570
They definitely could, but whether or not they do depends on Muskrat Prime's ego and if it makes for good marketing.
Also, the contract is set like concrete, but it would be funny if SpaceX landed a dozen HLS demonstrations, the problem is orbital refilling challenges at the moment, takes a lot of launches to refill one HLS.
Us Muskrat 1 zubrinites are hoping he drags his balls on VSVN's rotten face, but it doesn't seem likely + landing on mars is a bigger flex.

[Anonymous No.15675589]

>Happy anniversary to DC-X team, first flew 30 years ago today
https://twitter.com/lrocket/status/1692569964039864805

[Anonymous No.15675595]

>>15675582
haha he thinks he's a jet airplane

[Anonymous No.15675599]

>>15675543
Gateway is still useful as sitting in permanent sunlight and permanent contact with Earth while being in lunar orbit. Even with (sub)surface bases on the moon you'll still want stuff in NRHO, and letting Gateway act as a transfer point means something like blorp's reusable hydrolox lander can do ISRU from the poles or justify NEA capture. Then you could do Starships as a real "space shuttle" going from Earth to LEO to NRHO and back as well as the main Mars runs.

[Anonymous No.15675604]

https://youtu.be/v1SGDbpeFFg
After almost 2 years,French Space Guy finally uploads a video on his english audience channel. When the fuck is his N1 documentary coming out?

[Anonymous No.15675627]

[Anonymous No.15675636]

>>15675604
Pretty much indefinitely stalled because of Russo Ukrainian war
The guy was just about to go to Russia to interview a bunch of old guys who worked on it as of February 2022
Such is life

[Anonymous No.15675684]

only gonna say this once, but i want clear to be mother of my children and you all know what that means

[Anonymous No.15675710]

[Anonymous No.15675722]

>>15675710
>Ren Wicks (1911 - 1997)
>Wicks was an all-around artist, in a career that included NASA and postage stamps, but he excelled at two subjects in particular: wings and women.

[Anonymous No.15675728]

https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2023/08/16/how-to-produce-green-hydrogen-for-1-kg/
casey fell for the hydrogen meme :/

[Anonymous No.15675731]

>>15675722

[Anonymous No.15675738]

>>15675445
This is still the testing phase, I'm sure they'll have a nicer place to stack stuff when they're ready.

[Anonymous No.15675747]

>>15675728
It's a necessary step for the sabatier reaction. Doofus.

[Anonymous No.15675752]

>>15675722
Post women

[Anonymous No.15675753]

>>15675747
No. Casey is trying to make "Green Hydrogen" to qualify for Sleepy Joe's energy gibs. He wants to suck government tits. His word is mud now

[Anonymous No.15675763]

>>15675752
https://nevsepic.com.ua/art-i-risovanaya-grafika/page,2,5191-kollekciya-rabot-amerikanskogo-hudozhnika-ren-wicks-1911-1997-100-rabot.html

[Anonymous No.15675772]

>>15675445
Use a pressure washer

[Anonymous No.15675782]

>>15675753
So chuck him in the bin with Musk?

[Anonymous No.15675791]

The pez dispenser payload door proves spacex sees no business case for starship except for starlink

[Anonymous No.15675792]

>chat with a guy at a conference who worked on the SDI
>refers to JPL as 'Just Pay Lockheed'
Lel

[Barkun No.15675794]

>mars
>Pluto

[Anonymous No.15675802]

>>15675753
>His word is mud now
He was always a fag

[Anonymous No.15675813]

>>15675763
literally me

[Anonymous No.15675817]

>>15675791
DoD is already paying, NASA is already paying, Sat companies are already paying.
I have no doubt more interests, such as Eurofags, will step up and shell out cuckdollars to use the launch platform for Martian and other missions.
The telescope potential will also be fucking nuts, no more tiny ßøý telescopes, meaning we might finally get really solid data on astronomy, which may well assist in energy and material sciences.
It's gonna be so good, Starlink is just a stepping stone.

[Anonymous No.15675830]

>>15675636
You know you can still go to russia and interview old guys right?

[Anonymous No.15675836]

>>15675830
It'll be old guys interviewing him in a cellar.

[Anonymous No.15675839]

>>15675791
You're retarded

[Anonymous No.15675843]

>>15675836
Whatever he's got to do to get the job done.

[Anonymous No.15675858]

>>15675490
>>15675791
The most powerful rocket ever made is causing an equally powerful amount of delusional seethe&cope

[Anonymous No.15675859]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANlOJBXxS24

[Anonymous No.15675863]

>>15675836
Occupational hazard. Journalists are so weak these days. Back in the 60s journos risked the gallows if they snooped too much (ex. Salazar Regime).

[Anonymous No.15675865]

I made a thread:

>>15675512

[Anonymous No.15675876]

The first results of the scientific instruments of the Luna-25 automatic station in lunar orbit
During the flight, several activations of scientific equipment were carried out

The neutron and gamma-ray spectrometer HADRON-LR registered the most intense lines of chemical elements of the lunar soil in the energy spectrum of gamma rays.

ARIES-L ion energy-mass analyzer was turned on in the Moon's orbit, designed to study the near-surface ion exosphere in the circumpolar region of the Moon. The data made it possible to choose the optimal mode of operation of the device on the surface of the Moon for measuring the energy spectra of particles in the energy range from 10 eV to 3000 eV.

Device, designed to register microparticles levitating near the surface of the Moon and determine the parameters of the surrounding plasma, registered a micrometeorite impact event. Most likely, this micrometeorite belongs to the Perseid meteor shower, which the Luna-25 spacecraft managed to successfully cross during the flight to the Moon.

Based on the results of processing two frames of the Moon survey taken on August 17 by the landing cameras of the STS-L system, specialists of the ICI RAS carried out a binding to a digital relief model. This technology will allow in the future to significantly improve the accuracy of knowledge of the orbit of the spacecraft.

These pictures show the Zeeman crater. In the list of the twenty deepest craters of the southern hemisphere of the Moon, it is in third place. It has an unusual size ratio: diameter — about 190 km, depth — about 8 km. Its formation is associated with a very strong impact, which is possible if the speed of the striker is very high or his substance is very dense.

Detailed photographs show that the crater floor is dotted with smaller ones. This happens if part of the substance ejected on impact fell back and created numerous small "potholes". Such formations are very interesting from the point of view of lunar geology.

[Anonymous No.15675886]

[Anonymous No.15675898]

Booster rolling out in a few hours

[Anonymous No.15675900]

>>15675876
I hope this nigga crashes

[Anonymous No.15675907]

>>15675900
Soulless bugman

[Anonymous No.15675923]

>>15675445
They can clean farings that fall from the edge of space and land in the ocean, they can just modify whatever cleaning process they have in place for those to the starship payload bay.

[Anonymous No.15675952]

Is it possible to launch lander on moon that will work as signal blocker. So no one will be able to land on moon. Asking for Luna-26

[Anonymous No.15675963]

>>15675445
With only the finest wipes money can buy.

The watermark wasn't edited btw https://q3.np-shop.boeing.com/aviation-supply/p/AC12165=C1

[Anonymous No.15675971]

Are there any particularly good Scott Lowther (aerospaceprojectsreview) documents/books worth buying?

[Anonymous No.15675998]

>>15675963
>the twin 250 pack
that's gonna be 100 dollars thank you

[Anonymous No.15676011]

>>15675509
You mean Lunar Gateway? I thought they booted Russia out of the project years ago.

[Anonymous No.15676016]

>>15675469
UAE said they would do it
>>15676011
Russia left, they weren’t kicked out

[Anonymous No.15676026]

>>15675876
This crater looks interesting. They should land there.

[Anonymous No.15676033]

>>15675570
>certified for crew
That only matters for taking up NASA astronauts.
But Musk wants Mars, so the most he would do is an uncrewed "see, it really does work" mission. But that would completely destroy the reputation of SLS, and NASA would be coming to SpaceX if they wanted the moon bad enough.

[Anonymous No.15676041]

>>15676026
Yes, the sharp edged square structure where the texture changes is quite intriguing.

[Anonymous No.15676052]

>>15676041
It looks like the city on Mars near Cydonia

[Anonymous No.15676069]

>>15675444
Microchips?

[Anonymous No.15676080]

>>15675490
At this point even if Elon died and federal agents acting on behalf of the Democratic Party and Satan himself destroyed Space X and brutally murdered all its employees, the idea has too much traction at this point. The Chinese would build a starship clone or someone else would, but there's never going to be no starship until someone replaces it with something better

[Anonymous No.15676089]

>>15675684
CWNBAW

[Anonymous No.15676092]

>>15675886
Yeah, maybe on a 5 meter centrifuge. Once you get up to even ISS size this becomes pretty trivial. Maybe Stanford torus baseball will never become a sport.

[Anonymous No.15676102]

Wtf is the name of that SpaceNews-adjacent website where it’s more opinion pieces or whatever… I feel like I’m losing my mind—I used to have it bookmarked but now I can’t find it

[Anonymous No.15676104]

>>15676102
https://thespacereview.com/

[Anonymous No.15676105]

>>15675587
>>15676033
>But that would completely destroy the reputation of SLS

[Anonymous No.15676106]

Super Heavy is just stupid. That shouldnt be right to make a rocket on principal of "We have 33 engines but that's alright if 3 will fail on launch"

[Anonymous No.15676109]

>>15676104
Thank you so much ugh I’ve been looking for like a week now.
I also occasionally check phys dot org, only because interesting stories occasionally go through that can’t be found elsewhere (interesting paper summaries and such) but a lot of times the info is just pumped out and is wrong. For example, an article from a couple of days ago stated that Juno uses a “heavy solar sail.” I wrote a letter to the editor telling them it was wrong and it looks like they updated it finally
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-radioisotope-thermoelectric-generator-weight-interplanetary.html

[Anonymous No.15676112]

>>15676106
bait

[Anonymous No.15676113]

>>15676092

[Anonymous No.15676117]

>>15676113
>Here comes the windup…. aaaaand the 3-1 pitch
>WOW it’s his trademark double ellipse swing around knuckle flurve, absolutely unhitable!!

[Anonymous No.15676130]

>>15675445
Vibrations from the launch shakes the dust off the payload.

[Anonymous No.15676137]

>>15675728
Very good article. You should kill yourself

[Anonymous No.15676143]

>>15675728
I believe in his version of the future much more than Elons.
The economics work out, the existing natural gas infrastructure is plentiful.
This is the solution to the solar energy storage problem and not batteries.

[Anonymous No.15676148]

Ayo hold the fuck up… I always assumed the tech for the YF-100 ORSC engine was either borrowed or stolen, from Russia or Ukies or something
But you’re telling me China stole the tech for their ORSC kerolox engine from AMERICA

[Anonymous No.15676151]

>>15676148
no fucking way hahahah

[Anonymous No.15676162]

>>15676148
Uh? Isn’t it taken from RD-120 or whatever the Ukrainian equivalent is

[Anonymous No.15676164]

>>15675728
He's gonna get GAPED by white hydrogen, what an idiot
https://www.science.org/content/article/hidden-hydrogen-earth-may-hold-vast-stores-renewable-carbon-free-fuel

[Anonymous No.15676167]

[Anonymous No.15676177]

>>15676148
>>15676162
https://web.archive.org/web/20201124182024/http://spaceflightfans.cn/81690.html

See this
There are key differences and YF-100 projet did start in the 80s, before they had access to the RD-120, but even chinese nationalist page admit RD-120 (which was imported and tested in china and there was exchange with Yuzhnoye) was crucial to developping the YF-100

[Anonymous No.15676182]

>>15676162
Oh you’re right they eventually obtained a 120, but before that they worked off of US specifications that were somehow obtained

[Anonymous No.15676190]

>>15676182
Interesting, this doesn't seem implausible since we know they hd been working on it since the mid 80s but I'd like to see a source.

[Anonymous No.15676194]

[Anonymous No.15676199]

>>15676190
Oh I was just going off the wikipedia page for the YF-100. I was going down a rabbit hole, as follows:
• This day in space flight - 1998, Long March 2C launches two Iridium satellites (interesting)
• Hmm let me check out the LM5 page now, I love fat five
• Oh yeah it uses ORSC engines, let’s see how powerful these are
• Pic rel
It has sources listed but i’m ph*neposting (laptop broke last week) and sources are sort of fucked on the wikipedia app

[Anonymous No.15676205]

>>15675401

[Anonymous No.15676208]

>>15676199
https://web.archive.org/web/20150703044121/http://sinodefence.com/rocketry/changzheng-5/
Looking at the listed source, it clearly highlights inspiration from the RD-120
"development beginning in early 2000s" is weird, the link I posted abvoe says the first (failed) tests of the YF-100 were in 2001.
Some inspiration from America is definitely possible, especially in that time period (late 90s was when you had many of the american hydrocarbon propulsion researches, Fastrac, RS-84/ TR-107...) but from these sources work derived from the RD-120 seems to have been the main one.

[Anonymous No.15676213]

>nsf is doing their own flyovers now
MONOPOLY ABUSE

[Anonymous No.15676219]

>>15676194
I’m no socialist, and I don’t think we should be living in commieblocks here on earth. But the idea of detached single family homes on the moon is ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.15676227]

>>15676208
Gotcha. Thanks for the fact check, anon

[Anonymous No.15676240]

>>15675791
based

[Anonymous No.15676244]

>>15676089
China will never be a winner?

[Anonymous No.15676264]

>>15676106

[Anonymous No.15676267]

>>15675393

[Anonymous No.15676268]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeCUiwAubQE

[Anonymous No.15676270]

>>15676213
that is just once a month, not every week
(video is unrelated)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlLYoxgavcw

[Anonymous No.15676310]

Kinda fucked up that if you count propellant mass, starship is probably going to be the heaviest thing man-made thing in orbit

[Anonymous No.15676316]

It's over Luna bros

[Anonymous No.15676328]

>>15676316
X

[Anonymous No.15676329]

>>15676316
>the moon remains american and chinese
its so boring

[Anonymous No.15676333]

>>15676316
Translating from Roscosmos language:

Instead of 18x100 orbit station made a correction to -18x100 orbit and crashed into Moon

[Anonymous No.15676336]

i can already hear the liberals chortling over this news

[Anonymous No.15676339]

>>15676213
>NSF flyover one day coincides with RGV flyover
>they take aggressive maneuvers to scare off the other
>then take pot-shots at each other like its early WWI aerial combat
>later one of them affix a machine gun to their plane
>soon enough WWI style dogfights taking plane over Starbase weekly


Crazy shit man

[Anonymous No.15676342]

Classic Russian case. Stuck on orbit. Phobos-Grunt, Nauka, Luna-25 all biggest Roscosmos launches not counting ISS were stuck on orbit. Phobos wasn't saved, Nauka was saved

[Anonymous No.15676343]

>>15675445
big blue tarp over the satellites.

[Anonymous No.15676346]

>>15675102
I hope one day Ria can fly over to watch a Starship launch in person.

[Anonymous No.15676349]

>>15676316
I knew something was fishy

[Anonymous No.15676363]

>>15676342
>not counting ISS
but it's stuck in orbit too

[Anonymous No.15676368]

OHNONONONOOOO

[Anonymous No.15676372]

SPACE RACE BROS WE'RE BACK

CAM ON INDIAH HUMILIATE THE COMMIES

[Anonymous No.15676397]

I think it's like 99% over. There is no reason to report it everything is fixable and also completely not in Roscosmos style. Also wording of message basically implying that engines turned on but failed to achieve required orbit suggests that Luna-25 no longer exists most likely

[Anonymous No.15676409]

>>15676372
We're also commies saar

[Anonymous No.15676412]

>>15676372
I hope they fail too.

[Anonymous No.15676415]

>>15676316
who is this from

[Anonymous No.15676421]

>>15676372
Yeah, the notorious Russian communist state lmao

[Anonymous No.15676427]

>>15676415
https://archive.is/T8ryG#selection-638.0-652.1
It's official now. And almost so very over.

>About the flight of the automatic station "Luna-25"
>Today, in accordance with the flight program, at 14:10 Moscow time, the automatic station Luna-25 gave an impulse to transfer to the pre-landing orbit.
>During the operation, an emergency situation occurred on board the automatic station, which did not allow the maneuver to be performed with the specified parameters.
>The management team is currently analyzing the situation.

[Anonymous No.15676437]

>>15675415
anyone has the pic of the man smoking while working on the saturn v?

[Anonymous No.15676439]

>A spacecraft in an initially circular polar orbit about the moon at an altitude of 50 km will impact the Moon in approximately 41 days, assuming an altitude of 12 km for impact - the height of the tallest mountains on the moon. At 100 km altitude, the impact is delayed until about 150 days. At 200 km altitude, impact is avoided as the altitude variations are bounded. Therefore, a 200 km orbit is valuable since stationkeeping costs are eliminated. For orbits at 100 km and below, stationkeeping maneuvers are required to maintain altitude control.
They still got 45 days to fix this

[Anonymous No.15676444]

what is pre landing orbit, and what orbit are they in right now? It seems that they did a partial burn?

[Anonymous No.15676457]

>I won't help normalise Russian space exploration when they're committing war crimes in Ukraine.

Tw*tter is full of some absolute drama queens I swear

[Anonymous No.15676458]

>>15676444
It should have achieved 18x100 orbit. But nothing known right now. It might be 50x100 or might be in Moon surface

[Anonymous No.15676479]

>>15676333
checked

[Anonymous No.15676482]

>>15676457
Seething

[Anonymous No.15676485]

>>15676439
Wait why does the orbit decay? There's no atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.15676486]

>>15676457
Black and white thinkers are truly idiots. At least bottom-end bell curve flat earthers and shit try to consider new possibilities, even if they’re wrong

[Anonymous No.15676495]

>>15676485
Almost no orbits of the moon are perfectly stable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_concentration_(astronomy)#Effect_of_lunar_mascons_on_satellite_orbits

[Anonymous No.15676500]

>>15676485
Moon's too lumpy, small gravitational differences pull unevenly on the spacecraft along its orbit, causing it to slowly drop down

[Anonymous No.15676504]

>>15676439
based mascons
on the bright side, maybe they can just start the landing engines when they get low enough lol

[Anonymous No.15676505]

>>15676485
Geodosy… errr I guess “selendosy” or something in the case. The moon is lumpy and it fucks with orbits

[Anonymous No.15676509]

>>15676500
uhh doesn't this violate convervationism of energy

[Anonymous No.15676514]

>>15676509
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about, this is tip or the iceberg space flight knowledge

[Anonymous No.15676530]

>>15676485
Who told you the moon has no atmosphere? Who lied to you?

[Anonymous No.15676540]

>>15676458
The guys who found out Hakuto-R crashed before anyone else are still looking for Luna-25
https://www.youtube.com/user/amsatdl

[Anonymous No.15676570]

>>15676509
Deleted my other post I felt bad. But no, no it doesn’t. This is basic space flight knowledge it’s not too hard to find resources on it.

[Anonymous No.15676579]

Smartest canadian

[Anonymous No.15676587]

>>15675589
for once pop science didn't turn our brains into mush

[Anonymous No.15676592]

>>15675684
you can't because she is "clear" of ovaries haha

[Anonymous No.15676598]

>>15676592
Kek

[Anonymous No.15676615]

>>15676457
Fuck 'em, Rogozin was happy to hang us out to dry and gouge us on seat pricing a whole decade before this. They weren't even this faggy during the Cold War. I hope Russia loses the ability to gain access to space.

[Anonymous No.15676618]

Fucking hell guys. I'm Russian and accustomed to failures of our space program. But that's just unbearable. I hoped at sea of infinite failures at least Luna-25 will be successful. That's just depressing

[Anonymous No.15676621]

>>15676615
Rogozin was send to war and got shrapnel in ass a year ago

[Anonymous No.15676628]

>>15676621
And he didn't die. What a shame.

[Anonymous No.15676631]

>>15676615
See this is my point of view. It’s okay to wish ill on pockocmoc because of internal corruption/retardation and Rogozin shenanigans. But tying it to “the current event situation” is extremely faggy.
Plus rogozin is out now and Borisov seems happy to work with the west to the best of his abilities despite the current geopolitical situation. So. Idk.
My point is, if you want roscosmos to fail simply because of >muh war crimes, then maybe you should stop calling the kettle black and look at how much fucked up shit every country is involved in

[Anonymous No.15676635]

>>15676592
damn

[Anonymous No.15676636]

>>15676628
NATO was targeting him and he lives

[Anonymous No.15676639]

>>15676618
I think you bros will get there one day but it will require more resources and, especially, less corruption. Oligarchs don’t look at roscosmos with pride. They look at it through the lens of a money printer.
Granted the United States does the same thing, but the US generates so much damn money that they can afford to do this and still have successful missions

[Anonymous No.15676642]

>>15675445
with no mass autism, you don't have to make autistically delicate hardware anymore
just cover/clean the parts that need it

[Anonymous No.15676643]

>>15676618
Hey maybe Russia will do an actual nuclear tug first. Its relatively cheap with NASA awarding the DRACO contract for $500 million. If they do that, their space program is redeemed in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.15676648]

These retards managed to work 24/7 during one of the hottest heatwaves we've had and only started using sunshades now.
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1692944097978253352?t=P3G3L88l4j1CZVf1JuvzIQ&s=19

[Anonymous No.15676651]

>>15676643
>Its relatively cheap with NASA awarding the DRACO contract for $500 million
No it’s not cheap
It’s just that DRACO is underfunded
In 2023 usd, $12 billion was spent on NERVA and associated research, $1 billion on Prometheus

[Anonymous No.15676658]

>>15675582
>Sir, permission to leave the station
>For what purpose, Master Chief?
>To give the covenant back their bomb

[Anonymous No.15676666]

>>>/vg/442616538
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>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

Previous Thread:
>>>/vg/441051309

[Anonymous No.15676669]

>>15676666

[Anonymous No.15676671]

>>15676666
>Quads

[Anonymous No.15676673]

>>15676666

[Anonymous No.15676677]

>>15675490
Demonstration of a better method to get material into orbit

[Anonymous No.15676678]

>>15676666
>https://www.reddit.com/r/lostredditors/
you have to go back

[Anonymous No.15676679]

>>15676666
janitors... cleanse it

[Anonymous No.15676680]

>>15676666

[Anonymous No.15676682]

>>15676666
satanic quads

[Anonymous No.15676684]

>>15676666

[Anonymous No.15676688]

>>15676267
JANNIEEEEEES

[Anonymous No.15676692]

>Luna 25
>Initially called Luna-Glob lander, it was renamed to Luna 25 to emphasize the continuity of the Soviet Luna programme from the 1970s
lmao the cope is real. A different country had a program and now a different country think they can just continue it. It's like if ESA called their rocket Saturn VI rocket to continue the legacy of Saturn V.

[Anonymous No.15676696]

>>15676666
do not redeem

[Anonymous No.15676698]

>>15676692
I was thinking this the other day but what would be the equivalent for the “Mars” program. Would a new one be called Mars-7? Mars-8? I’m not sure what the last real numbered CCCP mission was, becuase there were like a million proposals

[Anonymous No.15676701]

[Anonymous No.15676702]

>>15676692
Venera-D is cool and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

[Anonymous No.15676705]

>>15676666
>satanic quads wasted on this

[Anonymous No.15676706]

>>15676701
Nice as always

[Anonymous No.15676710]

India better pull it off

[Anonymous No.15676711]

>>15676701
musk is a proud scalie

[Anonymous No.15676712]

>>15676666
>coomer games
>japan
>outside /h/

[Anonymous No.15676713]

>>15676701
>EPPS
>DOMINICK
>BARRATT
>I'M HAVING A STROKE

[Anonymous No.15676718]

It might be a good time to post this at least one last time
https://strawpoll.com/BJnX8eXLLnv
Which lunar probe will survive the landing? No official sentence for Luna 25 so there is a chance.

[Anonymous No.15676719]

>>15676705

[Anonymous No.15676723]

>>15676713
>Grebyonkin
>he can’t read cyrillic
Your autism is weak

[Anonymous No.15676724]

>>15676723
Bro those days are over. Space flight autists are now learning chynease as a side hobby

[Anonymous No.15676725]

>>15676718
I just want the pajeets to do well. They try their best and work hard. It would be a shame to see it go to waste.

[Anonymous No.15676728]

>>15676724
Chinese is hard as shit, Russian is almost easy to understand in comparison

[Anonymous No.15676731]

Lots of rumours on Luna 25 on telegram
>Wrong command sent, engine fired too long and Luna crashed
>Contact immediately lost after the command
>Doppler radar failure

[Anonymous No.15676735]

>>15676731
Just out of curiosity do you get your roscosmos telegram news second-hand or do you just get it straight from their telegram channel?
I miss rogozin and roscosmos being on twitter and I’m kind of tempted to just download telegram, but I have no clue how it works or if I can even access pockocmoc news

[Anonymous No.15676736]

>>15676735
I think you can just open telegram links in browser

[Anonymous No.15676739]

>>15676724
kbro, show us your skillz

[Anonymous No.15676740]

Oh hell no bruh this thing is gonna crash hahahah. Sorry JAXA
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1692822606003704048

[Anonymous No.15676742]

>>15676735
Yeah Rogozin at his last months as head of Roscosmos closed english website and all english speaking social networks and they weren't reopened since

[Anonymous No.15676746]

>>15676742
Although Roscosmos won't return to Twitter or any Meta product as they're declared terrorist organizations in Russia

[Anonymous No.15676748]

If Luna 25 crashes I'll draw porn of her

[Anonymous No.15676750]

>>15676746
>they're declared terrorist organizations in Russia
They’re not wrong, but still

[Anonymous No.15676751]

>>15676742
Well I think twitter was banned in russia, if Im not mistaken. And I just miss rogozin because, yes, he had dogshit takes. But he was also the shitposter in chief and it was hilarious. I guess it’s for the better though that Borisov is in charge now and he isn’t throwing out batshit crazy conspiracies when our two countries need to be as diplomatic as possible for the sake of ISS

[Anonymous No.15676752]

>>15676740
what is the fucking point of this
might as well just use the oldschool airbag landers

[Anonymous No.15676755]

>>15676740
>me landing my robot rover in KSP

[Anonymous No.15676756]

>>15676752
Hahah I have no idea. It seems so risky for an agency that doesn’t have JPL-tier luck with risky maneuvers

[Anonymous No.15676760]

>>15676740
That's so retarded lmao
I first assumed it might be for the Phobos lander where it may make some sense, but not for the moon

[Anonymous No.15676763]

>>15676740
>Starship belly flop
>No atmosphere so there isn't a point to doing it

[Anonymous No.15676767]

>>15676755
Lmao

[Anonymous No.15676774]

>>15676666
kek

[Anonymous No.15676775]

>>15676069
>hundreds of dollars for a single sliver of silicon

[Anonymous No.15676786]

>>15676701
Gighra coming through

[Anonymous No.15676787]

>>15676752
So the payload is closer to ground?

[Anonymous No.15676790]

https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1692964156360548645
>According to Zakryty Kosmos TG channel (unofficial): Luna-Glob (#Luna25) broke communications with ground control during today's orbit correction but Roskosmos continues its attempts to contact the spacecraft...

[Anonymous No.15676793]

>>15676790
It probably exploded, damn. What the FUCK is russia’s problem

[Anonymous No.15676808]

>>15676755
If you can demonstrate the thing will survive the instantaneous acceleration when you touch down at like 3m/s why the hell wouldn't you just drop it on the moon

[Anonymous No.15676810]

>>15676267
>new sciencegoy OC
welcome back

[Anonymous No.15676811]

intuitive machines better fucking work
moon is cursed

[Anonymous No.15676813]

>>15676811
moon's haunted

[Anonymous No.15676816]

>>15676793
It was obviously an experimental Lunar weapon test. If America wants to keep fucking around then Russia will make sure they find out, on Earth and in space.

[Anonymous No.15676819]

>>15676790
t u m b l i n g

It's CAPSTONE all over again

[Anonymous No.15676820]

>>15676811
Works fine for China. They had multiple rovers there. They've been on the moon for nearly a decade now. So they know a lot.

[Anonymous No.15676824]

>>15676808
It’s not the drop, it’s the bellyflop. Adding that kind of an unecessary maneuver instead of just legs is another thing that can go wrong

[Anonymous No.15676828]

>>15676790
:(

[Anonymous No.15676830]

>>15676820
They’re doing a LM5-launched sample return on the far side of the Moon soon I believe. And it will work flawlessly. Everyone else sucks ass at landing. The US gets off easy because we haven’t tried it in decades and we’ve been focusing on landing a bunch of crazy shit, successfully thank God, on Mars.

[Anonymous No.15676837]

>>15676830
Multiple US ventures have tried with small landers, and failed.

They place their faith on Starship, which may or may not pan out, but hopefully it will pan out just fine because Starship would be perfected by the time it lands on Moon

[Anonymous No.15676839]

>>15676824
Oh, I see what you mean

Classic KSP base landing strat (i.e. can't fit in the fairing horizontally). It's got legs to cushion the impact, but nothing to slow it down after the flop

[Anonymous No.15676840]

>>15676837
SX hasn’t actually attempted domestic landing on another planet before. I’m not trying to insinuate anything by this, I just mean that it’s obviously difficult considering the failure-to-success ratio of everyone who has ever tried
Come to think of it has SX launched ANYTHING beyond the earth-moon system besides the Tesla?

[Anonymous No.15676844]

>>15676839
Yeah NTA but this seems like added complexity, which you don’t really want for a historically hostile body

[Anonymous No.15676845]

>>15676840
They'll succeed first try with HLS demo landing. SpaceX flight software team is built different.

[Anonymous No.15676847]

>>15676830
>Everyone else sucks ass at landing
It's uncertain how much of China's success is due the raid on JPL's servers a while back

[Anonymous No.15676856]

>>15676847
Stolen tech or not, I still give them the award for actually landing. Chink hardware is super lame but they have had successes on the moon and mars which is cool in my book

[Anonymous No.15676861]

Chandrayaan set to undergo the last deboosting maneuver in 1.5 hrs. I am scared bros. Hold me. This is what crashed luna 25

[Anonymous No.15676862]

>>15676845
Yeah I have faith. Concentrated autism has brought them far, and they have no indications of slowing down any time soon

[Anonymous No.15676865]

>>15675900
We have a winner.

[Anonymous No.15676867]

>>15676839
Might not be a complete belly flop
Looks like at terminal descent it's at an angle firing a thruster until touchdown and then it pitches forward onto its nose(?)

[Anonymous No.15676868]

I saw Fred Haise's airplane today. Some guy bought it from a NASA auction in 1982 and restored it.

[Anonymous No.15676873]

>>15676861
I’m not worried, yet. They got to the landing phase last time. It’s the last few minutes that will be nail biting

[Anonymous No.15676879]

>>15676628
he did lose his cock though

[Anonymous No.15676883]

>>15676868
Neat! I didn’t realize he was still alive. Also cool that he never got a phd in anything. He just loved to fly

[Anonymous No.15676891]

Jeets seem to be unironically doing major things right now, theres the lunar lander and coming up is the martian orbitter.

[Anonymous No.15676894]

>>15676891
>orbitter
Good morning!

[Anonymous No.15676897]

>>15676648
sea breeze >>>>>

[Anonymous No.15676898]

>>15676891
Landing is in a whole other league compared to just orbiting
Anyone with LEO capability can just slap on some hypergolic stage and boost on a trajectory to another planet (except for russia apparently kek)

[Anonymous No.15676903]

>>15676891
a bunch of nerds with slide rulers did this all back in the 60s and 70s

[Anonymous No.15676905]

>>15675401
I like how there are like 3 krystal /sfg/ pictures and they absolutely mog the dozens of soulless anime pedo rocket girl pics that get spammed here every day

[Anonymous No.15676911]

>>15676903
That breed of man doesn’t exist anymore. US/Soviet scientists were so fucking autistic that they set aside their differences to work together. They were both roughing it from scratch with no previous R&D, and even being sworn enemies wasn’t enough to stop the mutual love of space

[Anonymous No.15676925]

>>15676903

[Anonymous No.15676929]

>>15676925
Viking is impressive as all get out

[Anonymous No.15676931]

>>15676903
>>15676911
Well done, well done... However India has the same budget as that of NASA or the Soviets had then. Americans just waste their budget on Mcburgers and diversity month. They dont deserve it

[Anonymous No.15676934]

>>15676925
The right bottom corner had nice legs. Wonder if she is died virgin

[Anonymous No.15676938]

>>15676931
Very good ser please don’t be bloody benchod and send gift card naow PLEASE SER

[Anonymous No.15676939]

>>15676905
see
>>15676205
furfaggots are tolerated when they don't act attention-hungry, do you understand?

[Anonymous No.15676943]

>>15676934
All these people were probably asexual by choice. Mars and big ol’ room-sized computers were their true loves

[Anonymous No.15676944]

>>15676903

[Anonymous No.15676950]

>>15676944
What’s your point? Literally no one had tried this before and this was an era when rocket tech could only be found in science fiction and theoretical mathematical papers

[Anonymous No.15676962]

Reminder that modern russia’s ONLY successful mission past earth was the joint ESA/Roscosmos ExoMars mission, and that the Briz-M upper stage exploded right after stage separation so it just barely fucking worked
Also ESA fucked up the Mars landing kek

[Anonymous No.15676966]

>>15676903
I’d say the reason they had more success was due to lack of electronics; you had to simplify everything because there was no other option.
Now some fresh graduate can slap some 500,000 line code and thinks that that shit won’t lead to problems. Just because electronis are rad-hardened doesn’t make them immune to bit flips and errors

[Anonymous No.15676969]

Coomer casey sextape (wife's sister edition)

[Anonymous No.15676978]

>>15676944
They accumulated hard-fought knowledge which has now evaporated with the greybeards. They don't even have to rely on the shitty USSR/Russia electronics anymore, yet they still fail.

[Anonymous No.15676981]

>>15676879
I thought it was his balls? Or was it both? Which propaganda am I supposed to believe?

[Anonymous No.15676983]

Did Glushko set a curse on his death bed or something? Like how do you fuck up a hypergolic upper stage

[Anonymous No.15676984]

>>15676944
and then one day the were successful and they did it all without modern software or hardware or materials or modeling techniques or communication equipment

[Anonymous No.15676989]

Once Putler dies Russia should join ESA. It’s their only hope to remain semi-relevant in space.

[Anonymous No.15676997]

mid 70s mission control rooms are the peak aesthetic

[Anonymous No.15677013]

>>15676939
it's really incredible how uppity they get when people aren't actively out hunting them down

[Anonymous No.15677016]

>>15676981
nobody knows

[Anonymous No.15677032]

>>15676981
He did get hit by shrapnel, most likely in the lower back. All of the "Rogozin got trans" probably has as much validity as the Ghost of Kiev.

[Anonymous No.15677038]

>>15676997
Nice

[Anonymous No.15677040]

>>15677032
>implying the Ghost of Kiev isn't real
disgusting z nigger chud. putin lost. the counter-offensive is going to finish russian orcs in two more weeks

[Anonymous No.15677042]

>>15677040
refer to this >>15677040

[Anonymous No.15677043]

>>15677040
Putin (based) has won.

[Anonymous No.15677044]

>>15676944
Yeah but they launched every other month. For Russia next Moon launch will be in 2027 according to plan

[Anonymous No.15677063]

>>15677044
The situation is normal

[Anonymous No.15677067]

Funny little thing

[Anonymous No.15677072]

>>15677067
This looks like the original Orion design on top of… russian hardware? Am I crazy? Or is this some weird Atlas V Heavy upper stage or something

[Anonymous No.15677080]

>>15677072
Lockheed's first cev design, and the "Russian hardware" is their second after NASA provided feedback

[Anonymous No.15677083]

https://youtu.be/KeCUiwAubQE
eager kino just dropped

[Anonymous No.15677088]

>>15677080
Gotcha. I feel like /sfg/ doesn’t appreciate (or even know about) Orion’s original design

[Anonymous No.15677090]

What if old space has just continued on

[Anonymous No.15677094]

Everyone is looking for their own space stations now that ukraine war has fucked up collaboration and ISS is no longer relevant. Is it good or bad?

[Anonymous No.15677095]

>>15677088
I think many of us were pretty young when the whole cev thing was going on. I'm glad Astronautix keeps a record of all these things, if it didn't there's so much that would be hidden in some inaccessible website or something

[Anonymous No.15677096]

>>15677090
Continued from where? Apollo or 2000's pre-Falcon?

[Anonymous No.15677098]

Can someone explain why American and Soviet/Russian vehicles have very distinct “styles”? You can look at a rocket and tell it’s Russian, you know?

[Anonymous No.15677103]

>>15677094
bad now good later

[Anonymous No.15677106]

>>15677090
Unironically, only a Mars flyby in 2080 maaaaybe, if we were lucky

[Anonymous No.15677107]

>>15677094
It’s bad for Russia because once the ISS goes, they have literally nowhere to go in LEO with crew.

[Anonymous No.15677111]

>>15677098
Can someone explain to me why this image is missing Falcon 9? Haha just kidding, we all know it's because it's old.

[Anonymous No.15677112]

>>15677106
OSP was honestly such a fever dream

[Anonymous No.15677114]

>>15677098
Russians built the R-7 ICBM and then unironically just based every other rocket around it. They also can’t into pressure vessels so everything is essentially just a spherical tank or two with some metal jacket around it
Meanwhile the US builds slick sexy hardware because they can actually into industrial design

[Anonymous No.15677116]

>>15677111
I cropped it my bad

[Anonymous No.15677117]

>>15676427
nice fucking link cunt, it's just an infinite captcha

[Anonymous No.15677121]

>>15677112
>literally a space plane competition
>boeing bids a capsule
I guess the writing on the wall has been there for longer than we think

[Anonymous No.15677125]

>>15677098
Well, the four booster design is because they didn't know if they could ignite the first stage midair/have a second stage, so it was rather similar to Atlas in that respect. Most Soviet designs were relatively robust because their rockets were more powerful at the start. Anything I said might be a lie btw

[Anonymous No.15677127]

oh no

[Anonymous No.15677128]

We’re gonna make it bros

[Anonymous No.15677130]

>>15677116
Much better, thanks Anon. I'm starting to wonder if we'll see Atlas V or Starship added to that list first.

[Anonymous No.15677133]

>>15677127
Thank you asteroid belt poster

[Anonymous No.15677141]

>>15677130
100% Atlas V, and then SLS. Starship will happen, but it might take a loooooong time

[Anonymous No.15677146]

So what’s the sitrep on Luna 25? Is she in orbit still? What’s going on?

[Anonymous No.15677147]

>>15677146
no one can say at this time

[Anonymous No.15677150]

>>15676339
>starhopper gets tired of their shit and vaporizes them

[Anonymous No.15677162]

>>15677098
>No srb
>Hotstaging is common
>Rail based transports means more common <4m tank diameter restriction
>Derivation from missile and Lesser composite knowledge means simpler, thinner and more distinctive fairings

[Anonymous No.15677169]

>>15677162
>they're all the exact same R7 rocket with different upper stages
that's the easy way

[Anonymous No.15677171]

>>15677162
Also
>Horizontal integration means heavy side booster are rarer
>No hydrogen stage = no orange & smaller upper stages

[Anonymous No.15677173]

>>15677162
>>15677147
Not even R7 related, but look at fucking Proton. It 100% has a “Russian rocket” aesthetic

[Anonymous No.15677177]

>>15677173
that's because it has cyrillic on the sides and an ugly fairing

[Anonymous No.15677180]

>>15677173
N1 too. I think it has moor to do with an overall "conical" shape

[Anonymous No.15677184]

Everything just needs to be coated in multi layer insulation and beta cloth

[Anonymous No.15677185]

>>15677173
Yeeeeah I was thinking of the proton when I posted. I should have said “R-7 and Universal Rocket (UR) families”
And the other anon who talked about diameter limitations because of railway is also correct.

[Anonymous No.15677189]

>>15677169
Duh
I’m talking generally
Russo Ukrainian rockets aren’t all R7 derived

[Anonymous No.15677197]

>>15677180
America likes stacking fat tooobs while Russia is too shit to make good toobs
the Ukrainians made some quality tooobs with the Zenit but they got destroyed during the perestroika firesale

[Anonymous No.15677199]

>>15677130
A nominal IFT-2 after the Luna fuckup would be delicious. Let it happen.

[Anonymous No.15677203]

>>15676845
>SpaceX flight software team is built different.
Yeah was just about to praise them myself. These guys are just build different

[Anonymous No.15677211]

>>15676903
A bunch of Germans. American space programs are either unsuccessful (Shuttle) or extremely expensive (Mars robots)

[Anonymous No.15677219]

>>15677211
The only space programs where germans were numerically in any significant numbers were the French (up until the early 60s), German, Otrag And the Egyptian one

In the USSR or American they weren’t in significant numbers compared to the Local workforce

[Anonymous No.15677226]

I love German engineering

[Anonymous No.15677234]

>>15677226
I wish we could just nuke germany, china, and India and move on as a civilization

[Anonymous No.15677235]

>>15676819
>It's CAPSTONE all over again
So it might still be recoverable, then?

[Anonymous No.15677239]

>>15677234
and Africa

[Anonymous No.15677243]

>>15677234
semite

[Anonymous No.15677246]

>>15677219
they provided significant and important leadership roles, which I agree are not the praiseworthy part of the mission

[Anonymous No.15677259]

Evolution of the XLR-43 engine used on the Navajo missile.
It led to the LR-79, F-1, H-1, J-2, and even the SSME. As Merlin uses a pintor injector, one could argue it even led to Merlin 1

[Anonymous No.15677290]

>>15677259
I’m pretty sure I stopped watching Manlet when he added this to his “ugly rockets” video, unironically
This thing is a BEAUTY

[Anonymous No.15677299]

/sfg/ has been very resistant to derailment these days

[Anonymous No.15677300]

>>15677259
>>15677290
Also sorry my autism got to me before I even read your whole post. I’ve heard it argued before that merlin is a loose successor to F1 and the V2 engine. Many disagree with this but I think it’s fun to argue that it is

[Anonymous No.15677301]

>>15677290
ugh, what could have been
spaceplanes to orbit in the late 50s

[Anonymous No.15677303]

>>15677226
SCHAUFELRADBAGGER

[Anonymous No.15677305]

>>15677299
We've been battle hardened by countless spammers and schizos

[Anonymous No.15677308]

>>15677301
Scott also added proton to that list. Fuck him. Stupid california liberal apple-brained communist scottish faggot. Proton is cute, and Scott Manley is a RETARD

[Anonymous No.15677309]

>>15677299
Shits actually happening. Mid 2021 to mid 2022 were terrible. Booster 7 testing ramping up was a godsend

[Anonymous No.15677311]

>>15677299
Anime spammer hasn't been around

[Anonymous No.15677313]

>>15677308
He was right about Proton
who even designs a first stage tank like that

[Anonymous No.15677316]

>>15677311
and neither the anti-anime-schizo

[Anonymous No.15677317]

>>15677313
Unironically die

[Anonymous No.15677318]

>>15677311
wrong, I just haven't had any new art to post

[Anonymous No.15677321]

>>15677235
Depends on which of the two mistakes CAPSTONE made that got replicated with Luna

On one, they tumbled, on the other, they set the radio incorrectly and left it inoperable for a time

CAPSTONE had automatic realignment that got overwhelmed by reaction wheel saturation during a burn and the radio issue did not automatically fix itself due to a flight software screwup, but they recovered from both issues due to the extremely long timeframe of their transfer orbit

[Anonymous No.15677322]

>>15677308
>>15677317
lmao

[Anonymous No.15677330]

>>15677317
that’s not an argument though nigga

[Anonymous No.15677329]

I can't believe ALPACA is fucking dead

[Anonymous No.15677333]

SLS

[Anonymous No.15677335]

>>15677330
Okay well its stupid first stage is a product of rail size diameter I’m pretty sure. Those aren’t boosters, they’re strap-on tanks that function as first stage extensions. And perhaps I was too harsh with you but I still stand by the fact that proton is cute and I will die on this hill if need be

[Anonymous No.15677337]

>>15677329
>negative mass margins

[Anonymous No.15677340]

At least we can all agree that Falcon 9 is good looking

[Anonymous No.15677341]

>>15677329
Oh come on anon. We all new BO’s legal department would secure the bag here, eventually

[Anonymous No.15677344]

>>15677337
they would have had to abandon launch on non-Starship rockets in order to make the design work, yes
>>15677341
personally I was hoping that somebody would assassinate Jeff

[Anonymous No.15677345]

>>15677340
False. F9 is probably THE best rocket ever made so far. But aesthetically speaking it’s pretty damn boring, I hate to say

[Anonymous No.15677351]

>>15677340
pencildick looking ass
skinny fuggin beanpole

[Anonymous No.15677352]

boring

[Anonymous No.15677353]

https://twitter.com/isro/status/1692995757413192015
>The second and final deboosting operation has successfully reduced the LM orbit to 25 km x 134 km.
>The module would undergo internal checks and await the sun-rise at the designated landing site.
>The powered descent is expected to commence on August 23, 2023, around 1745 Hrs. IST
Fuck yeah

[Anonymous No.15677356]

POST YFW INDIA LANDS ON MOON AND RUSSIA CRASHES

LMAOO

[Anonymous No.15677360]

>>15677352
The landings are kino as hell but those legs are gay and bootleg

[Anonymous No.15677364]

>>15677333
she's pretty. shame about the price tag

[Anonymous No.15677365]

>>15677356
I want both of them to land. Why are /pol/brainers like this?

[Anonymous No.15677367]

>>15677340
I think its middle of the road, doesn't look outstanding doesn't look terrible.

[Anonymous No.15677369]

>>15677353
>Initially final orbit was supposed to be 100km x 30km
>Now it is 124km x 25km
Why are third worlders so imprecise?

[Anonymous No.15677372]

>>15677333
“She” has okay angles, but at the end of the day he is just a Space Shuttle with troon surgery

[Anonymous No.15677373]

>>15677360
>bootleg
how

[Anonymous No.15677375]

>>15677340
It has the proportions of a much smaller rocket. that length to width wouldn't look out of place on a cruise missile but it doesn't really fit an orbital vehicle

[Anonymous No.15677378]

>>15677353
>designated landing site

[Anonymous No.15677381]

>>15677356
We need more moon landings, not less.

[Anonymous No.15677387]

>>15677372
kek

[Anonymous No.15677388]

>>15677373
Hmmm idk maybe it has something to do with the fact that F9 wasn’t designed to be reusable from the ground up

[Anonymous No.15677395]

>>15677333
What’s VSVN

[Anonymous No.15677400]

Is anyone archiving all the Falcon streams?
I fear they might get lost one day due to poor preservation.

[Anonymous No.15677402]

>>15677365
But Russia already crashed

[Anonymous No.15677404]

>>15677340
It’s skinny body and fat head are kind of stupid, but the sheer flight rate and reliability make it endearing.

[Anonymous No.15677405]

>>15677395
Vational Saeronautics and Vase Nadministration

[Anonymous No.15677419]

>>15677400
All youtube streams automatically turn into videos.

[Anonymous No.15677425]

>>15677419
I mean an archive outside of youtube.

[Anonymous No.15677430]

>>15677425
I guarantee you there are multiple autists out there cataloging and archiving every flight stream. Including SeX themselves. Rest easy.

[Anonymous No.15677431]

>India joins Artemis accords
>America makes a deal of selling US jet engines to India
>US troops do join exercises with Indians at the Chinese border
Bros…is India our friend?

[Anonymous No.15677435]

>>15677431
>>US troops do join exercises with Indians at the Chinese border
never happened

[Anonymous No.15677440]

>>15677431
You are schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.15677441]

>>15677425
Spacex itself holds on to basically everything, I think. They like pulling old footage for compilations.
If you're aiming for a serious archival effort, you might want to reach out to Spacex.

[Anonymous No.15677446]

>>15677431
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15677457]

>>15677431
Heck no, India is more aligned with Russia (it's in BRICS as a favor to them) than it is with the US

Space cooperation is a different thing entirely though, since space doesn't have borders

[Anonymous No.15677463]

>BRICS

meds

[Anonymous No.15677469]

SLIM will lose telemetry halfway to the moon

[Anonymous No.15677477]

>>15677469
Nah they’ll get within 20 seconds of landing and then telemetry will show some crazy 270° spin and loss of signal right after. Checkem

[Anonymous No.15677485]

>>15676579
lol that's not 108 million years old
it's extremely recent for it to be that pronounced

[Anonymous No.15677487]

>>15677477
>begins bellyflop
>fails to shut engine off
>spins into the moon

[Anonymous No.15677488]

>>15677485
The paved road and visitor center so gives it away as the wrong photo but yea

[Anonymous No.15677491]

Here’s the message translated. Can they save it?

[Anonymous No.15677492]

Elon hired a new secretary

[Anonymous No.15677493]

>>15677492
giwtwm

[Anonymous No.15677496]

What's worse than krystal posters?


AI krystal posters

[Anonymous No.15677497]

>>15677492
damn ai is getting this good?

[Anonymous No.15677498]

>>15677492
AI is fucking amazing

[Anonymous No.15677499]

>>15677333
Look at that subtle burnt orange coloring, the tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god. It even has river rocks

[Anonymous No.15677500]

>>15677491
Please, I’m begging you, if you’re on Jupiter just refrain from posting. WE KNOW

[Anonymous No.15677501]

>>15677491
Well if it failed in a higher orbit, presumably they've got a decent amount of time to un-botch things

[Anonymous No.15677505]

>>15677496
KrystAI posters

[Anonymous No.15677508]

>>15677500
Dumb nigga some east asia and SEA are just waking up now

[Anonymous No.15677509]

Let’s say Kennedy’s plan of a joint space race happens and America and the USSR team up in space. How does history change?

[Anonymous No.15677511]

>>15677492
I have begun trawling through pictures with AI-generated "text" to come up with character sets for horseshit conlangs

[Anonymous No.15677513]

>>15677496
Seethe harder, pedo guy

[Anonymous No.15677522]

>>15677492
undeniably based
need more art like this

[Anonymous No.15677526]

>/sfg/ has been very resistant to derailment these days

Thanks for jinxing it, you gigantic faggot.

[Anonymous No.15677527]

>>15677522
Thanks, I'm making more as we speak

[Anonymous No.15677528]

>>15677511
you just reminded me of my conlang obsession from a few years ago
my autism is all over the place

[Anonymous No.15677529]

>>15677526
>t. anime spammer seething that even AI Krystal art has more soul than his pedo pics he pays real money for

[Anonymous No.15677533]

>>15677527
don't post them here

[Anonymous No.15677537]

[Anonymous No.15677538]

>>15677492
can't you go annoy your parents instead? feels like you're desperately asking for attention from online strangers, that's pretty cringe bro.

[Anonymous No.15677541]

>>15677509
Instead of political dickwaving over which contractor builds what rocket you get international political dickwaving over which country does which part of a mission

The international collab was more about defusing fears of space programs being cover for better ICBMs anyway. By the time Kennedy had his brainwave the Saturn was already in R&D, so it's possible the N1 would have been better funded and Korolev would be still alive

[Anonymous No.15677542]

>>15677537
This is so fake. Supposedly captured by what? I forget. Half of NASA's budget goes to their cgi dept kek

[Anonymous No.15677543]

John young was hot

[Anonymous No.15677544]

>>15677538
Its parents don't love him, that's why that thing is a furry

[Anonymous No.15677546]

>15677542
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15677549]

The 80s were the most kino decade but 80s spaceflight was shit

[Anonymous No.15677550]

>>15677543
Yup. Same with Michael Collins

[Anonymous No.15677553]

>>15677537
shitty fucking prison planet

[Anonymous No.15677554]

>>15677549
the voyagers were the silver lining of 80's space exploration

[Anonymous No.15677569]

>>15677509
No chance. For a joint program to happen Kennedy would have to have lived, and if that happened there was a greater chance that he would have scaled back or canceled Apollo due to budget competition from dirtside domestic issues and the Vietnam War. Apollo was very much a memorial program for Kennedy and the Soviets didn't think that we were actually serious about it until early in 1964. This was one of the reasons the N-1 was such a rushed mess; Korolev and everyone else all thought that they had until the mid-seventies to get their ducks marching in the row. Sadly, Lee Harvey Oswald's huge contributions to American spaceflight have always been overlooked.

[Anonymous No.15677570]

https://russianspaceweb.com/luna-glob-flight.html#0816
>Around the same time, another Telegram channel Yura Prosti claimed that a computational error led to the final engine firing to be 1.5 times longer than required and thus resulting in deorbiting and crash of the spacecraft on the Moon.

That would be so funny

[Anonymous No.15677571]

> According to the Yura Prosti telegram channel, the specialists screwed up the command and the engines fired 1.6 times longer than planned - leading to the eventual crash of Luna-25. Zakrity kosmos, another channel, said the contact was lost after the command and it no longer communicates.

"Losers!"

[Anonymous No.15677573]

>>15677570
Why is Russia so bad with software shit? Phobos Grunt also had this issue right?

[Anonymous No.15677575]

>>15677550
Wew

[Anonymous No.15677577]

>>15677575
Apollo Yaoi anime needed asap

[Anonymous No.15677578]

>>15677573
Pretty ironic since software is one of the most high value added exports that Russia has.

[Anonymous No.15677580]

> Russia's efforts to reestablish communication with Luna 25 will be complicated by the country's lack of a deep space communications network. The country's ability to communicate with Luna 25 will be limited to when the Moon is visible over Russia. There are relatively few of these opportunities in the days ahead.

Superpower.

[Anonymous No.15677581]

>>15677543
>>15677550
>>15677575
Chaffee.

[Anonymous No.15677583]

>>15677509
We never get to the moon
Apollo and Saturn get downgraded to the minimum
International cooperation is cancelled when a cosmonaut dies on a Zond-proton/early soyuz mission

[Anonymous No.15677584]

The East has fallen.

[Anonymous No.15677585]

>>15677575
I have the Collins hairline + a babyface.
If only I was an astronaut, that's the only way to escape this.

[Anonymous No.15677586]

>>15677581
Aldrin

[Anonymous No.15677587]

In one pic:
>Pocкocмoc
>ESA
>NASA
>JAXA
wholesome

[Anonymous No.15677589]

>>15677585
They all had high-T receding hairlines lol

[Anonymous No.15677590]

>>15677586
What phenotype is this

[Anonymous No.15677592]

how quickly we forget the collective jawline of artemis 2

[Anonymous No.15677596]

>>15677592
Why is there a Canadian and not a Euro?

[Anonymous No.15677598]

>>15677587

[Anonymous No.15677600]

>>15677596
Canadians get the flyby, Euros get the footprints

[Anonymous No.15677601]

>>15677596
Because the European service module of Artemis 2 (1 to 3) is used as compensation for the ISS.
So no reason to fly a european

[Anonymous No.15677602]

>>15677587
I know this sounds gay and corny but I really wish we all got along

[Anonymous No.15677603]

Dvach is depressing right now

[Anonymous No.15677604]

>>15677603
How do we help Russians escape the endless cycle of
>It got worse

[Anonymous No.15677605]

>>15677592
No I definitely remember. It’s a great crew. I fucking love glover and koch. I knew nothing about Wiseman before the announcement and thought he was literal who, but he seems like a chad after hearing him talk. Hansen is the odd ball but DAMN that jaw lol

[Anonymous No.15677606]

>>15677602
That's basically what I was thinking when I saw that pic too.

[Anonymous No.15677610]

>>15677602
>tfw no Gaganyaan-Tiangong

[Anonymous No.15677611]

>>15677590
The “I literally wrote the theoretical paperwork on how to rendezvous in space” phenotype

[Anonymous No.15677612]

>>15677611
I forget that the Apollo astronauts are fucking brilliant and not just pilot meatheads

[Anonymous No.15677615]

>>15677602
Queer.

[Anonymous No.15677617]

>>15677603
Is that put through google translate or is there an english speaking board?

[Anonymous No.15677618]

>>15677617
NTA but I also stalk dvach. I just have google auto translate everything. Russians are actually fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.15677622]

>>15677612
We should have been sending them to Mars, not fucked around in LEO, huge waste of talent

[Anonymous No.15677626]

>>15677610
It could technically happen. LVM-3 could lift a Gaganyaan to Tiangong's orbit with about two tons of capacity to spare. Regional geopolitical frictions would probably get in the way but ISRO would have an easier time making that meetup than Russia would.

[Anonymous No.15677627]

https://twitter.com/spaceedu_info/status/1688829903586676736

JAXA Space Education Center has opened an English site for an Edutech material #SLIM - THE POINPOINT MOON LANDING GAME.

Please enjoy SLIM’s journey to the Moon on your tablet or PC!

https://edu.jaxa.jp/en/contents/slimthe-pinpoint-moon-landing-game-english.html

[Anonymous No.15677637]

>>15677604
it's like asking the same question for latin americans or africans or most asian countries: it will never get better

[Anonymous No.15677640]

>>15677605
This image is pretty funny from an Australian/British perspective

[Anonymous No.15677641]

>>15677098
Russian rockets have skirts

[Anonymous No.15677643]

>>15676372
Memsahib, you're making a scene

[Anonymous No.15677645]

>>15677637
Latin American countries are always getting worse because of fucking around from the Cartels or the CIA (note: in most cases these are effectively the same thing). Africa is fucked up because of a mix of European and Chinese neocolonialism. Asia is likely a mix of Chinese and American blame.

[Anonymous No.15677647]

Been out all day, is Luna confirmed kill then? Lmao

[Anonymous No.15677650]

>>15677641
Hot

[Anonymous No.15677652]

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1693040953345368271
>#Luna25 Rumors say, during the attempt to lower the orbit's pericenter, the impulse turned out to be 1.5 times higher than expected.

[Anonymous No.15677653]

>>15677652
What if this all comes down to some dumbass ruskie making some simple mathematical mistake lol

[Anonymous No.15677654]

>>15677652
It’s actually over if true

[Anonymous No.15677655]

>>15677643
"Memsahib" is for a lady

[Anonymous No.15677656]

There is nothing worse than a furry. You are lower life forms than the Jewish bankster Mafia, gang raping niggers and locust plague chinks combined. You have been forcing your shitty meme for so long it's unreal. Total furry death.

[Anonymous No.15677658]

>>15676739
好的,咱们讲什么?

[Anonymous No.15677659]

>>15677656
the train doesn't go back to the rails if you keep derailing it further out

[Anonymous No.15677663]

>>15676775
Mass production means producing things in large quantities, not necessarily inexpensively.

[Anonymous No.15677665]

>>15676775
Given the complexity, it's fucking wild that the price is that low desu

[Anonymous No.15677667]

>>15677652
joever

[Anonymous No.15677669]

>>15677652
>Special Lithobraking Operation

[Anonymous No.15677671]

>>15677667
>we don't know which orbit it reached

????????
????????????????????

[Anonymous No.15677675]

>>15677627
babies first orbital mechanics lesson

[Anonymous No.15677678]

Some retard just typed number into his computer without checking and crashed Luna. That will be very Russian way

[Anonymous No.15677679]

>>15677652
Does that mean it slammed into the surface? Sad.

[Anonymous No.15677682]

Luna pulled a Nauka

[Anonymous No.15677686]

I would've loved if Rogozin was in charge for this

[Anonymous No.15677690]

No counties have some seismic sensors on moon? It will be easiest way to confirm Luna crash

[Anonymous No.15677691]

>>15677690
they dropped some off during apollo. not sure if they're still functional though

[Anonymous No.15677696]

>>15677538
He's probably tired of being molested

[Anonymous No.15677702]

>>15677617
It’s originally in Russian. It’s not fair, the Russians have a whole BOARD dedicated to space

[Anonymous No.15677704]

>>15677655
Yes

[Anonymous No.15677706]

I follow a ton of vatnig telegram accounts and they are all radio silent

[Anonymous No.15677710]

>>15677702
Don't start this shit again

[Anonymous No.15677711]

>>15677706
Yeah. I suspect it Roscosmos’ current disposition is “ummm we don’t even know where Luna 25 is right now” then it would be hard to report any more news. But keep us updated if anything new comes out

[Anonymous No.15677716]

>>15676540
No luck today, tomorrow is the last opportunity for Germoney bros

Anyone else got tabs on the search for Luna-25?

[Anonymous No.15677721]

>>15677716
Lol it colided with moon going 1.68km/s. Of course it's not sending any signals

[Anonymous No.15677729]

>>15677721
1.68km/s = 6048km/h. It's a debris field a dozen kilometers wide.

[Anonymous No.15677730]

>>15677492
photoshop-edited AI images are more cringe than plain AI images.

[Anonymous No.15677731]

https://youtu.be/I3nFYoqjW8E

[Anonymous No.15677732]

I’m also hearing chirps of an anomaly during IRSOs planned orbital maneuver. The moon is a harsh mistress!

[Anonymous No.15677734]

>>15677731
Charlie Duke has such a silly accent I love it

[Anonymous No.15677741]

No wonder Luna crashed. Russians don't even have computers to create models for approval. So they just make them out of paper. And then combine parts with glue to create final version

[Anonymous No.15677742]

>>15677732
The Moon is a closed cage match zone, only US and China-affiliated missions can land according to the guidelines of the "Space Race Part II" server event. I think it's kind of bullshit, but it all goes back to the US faction unlocking the Moon map and then letting their 50-year territorial claim lapse.

[Anonymous No.15677745]

Lmao

[Anonymous No.15677747]

>>15677745
HOLY FUCK ARE WE BACK

[Anonymous No.15677749]

>>15677741
lmao no fucking way

[Anonymous No.15677750]

>>15677745
I hope this slows them down enough to make the touchdowns a dead heat

[Anonymous No.15677752]

>>15677745
what's historic about it?

[Anonymous No.15677756]

>>15677750
Would be awesome

[Anonymous No.15677757]

>Russia struggling doing the same shit they did literally 60 years ago
lmao

[Anonymous No.15677758]

>>15677752
Everything's historic, because it happened

[Anonymous No.15677760]

>>15677752
russia achieving something beyond LEO after decades

[Anonymous No.15677763]

>>15677757
>Russia struggling doing the same shit they struggled with literally 60 years ago

[Anonymous No.15677765]

>>15677763
60 years ago they actually managed to land though

[Anonymous No.15677766]

>>15677745
Is that your boyfriend's account?

[Anonymous No.15677767]

>>15677757
I was just thinking of this image hahah

[Anonymous No.15677771]

>>15677745
That dude's site isn't even his

[Anonymous No.15677772]

>>15677765
It took like four attempts though. Russia can't afford to spray and pray like they used to.

[Anonymous No.15677776]

That post is fake news and from 5 hours ago. Only real info is in telegram roscosmos_gk. Or respected people on twitter like Anatoly Zak or Katya Pavlushchenko

[Anonymous No.15677777]

>>15677678
>

[Anonymous No.15677778]

I hope they touch down at the exact same time

[Anonymous No.15677779]

>>15677765
Eventually. It took them a few tries to get to Luna 9.

[Anonymous No.15677784]

>>15677772
It took waaaaaay more than 4 attempts to land. Wikipedia says it took 12 tries.

[Anonymous No.15677785]

>>15677779
Why didn't they attempt impactors like the US? Seems like it would be a lot easier

[Anonymous No.15677786]

>>15677776
Yeah I posted it because I thought it was funny it’s 100% a meme

>>15677766
>>15677752
>>15677750
>>15677747
The joke is that there is no source he just claims Russia fixed it sorry bros

[Anonymous No.15677789]

>>15677785
They wanted to be the first to land coupled with the Soviet design philosophy of learning through testing I suppose.

[Anonymous No.15677792]

America tried to land on the moon back in 1962 with the Ranger 3-5 series of spacecraft. All failed.

[Anonymous No.15677794]

Luna-25 won't even provide any info about landing. Luna-26 will just crash into moon also. It's just over

[Anonymous No.15677803]

>>15677745
>overcomes glitch

[Anonymous No.15677804]

>>15677785
They did! Four late fifties soviet probes (Luna E-1 #1-3 and Luna E-1A) were all impactors, and the first Lunar flyby might have been an imitator that missed. I'm guessing it wasn't that much easier since four failures before a success isn't much better than the Soviet record anywhere else, and once you get the "first nation to crash something into the moon" award it makes sense to move to something you can get some useful scientific data from.

[Anonymous No.15677807]

>>15677792
Armstrong took a fat fat shit on the moon and succeeded.

[Anonymous No.15677816]

>>15677745
>roscosmos said
If pockocmoc truly said it, it wouldn't be filtered to us through some rando

[Anonymous No.15677818]

>>15677807
amazing that we got 12 people on the surface and back

[Anonymous No.15677820]

>>15677818
Using nothing more than an extremely detailed timetable and a pocket calculator programmed to run a spacecraft

[Anonymous No.15677826]

>>15677369
I'm sure we didn't hardcode 100x30 and the lander won't try to achive landing at -5km

[Anonymous No.15677831]

>>15677792
>impactor
>failed
Lmao those were rough days

[Anonymous No.15677838]

>>15677571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyrqiKTUAzU

К звeздaм пyть был для нac нe пpocт
Былo вce - и yдaчи и бeды
Ho cияли нa этoм тepниcтoм пyти
Ocлeпитeльныe пoбeды
Пepвый cпyтник и пepвый пoлeт
И yлыбкa Гaгapинa Юpы
Tepeшкoвa, Лeoнoв, Пoпoвич, Tитoв,
Cтapт «Бypaнoв» в пecкaх «Бaйкoнypa».

Пpипeв:
Кocмичecкиe вoйcкa – этo нaшe нaдeжнoe зaвтpa
Кocмичecкиe вoйcкa, зaмиpaют paкeты нa cтapтaх
Кocмичecкиe вoйcкa – вoплoщeниe мoщи и cилы
Кocмичecкиe вoйcкa – этo гopдocть и cлaвa Poccии

Кocмoc тaйны cвoи oткpывaл
Teм, ктo выбpaл ceбe этy дoлю
Ho впepeд пyтeвoднoй звeздoю вeли
Baши мyжecтвo, cилы и вoля!
Бyдyт cнoвa paкeты взлeтaть
Бyдeт вpeмя кocмичecких cтapтoв
Бyдyт нaши peбятa миpы oткpывaть
Бyдyт дeти игpaть в кocмoнaвтoв!

Hoвый дeнь нaд зeмлeй вcтaeт
Hoвый дeнь пo плaнeтe шaгaeт
Кopaбли, кaк пpeкpacных, cepeбpяных птиц
B дaльний пyть Зeмля пpoвoжaeт
И peaльнocть вeликих идeй
Циoлкoвcкoгo и Кopoлeвa
Cквoзь гoдa, пepeмeны и cмeны вoждeй
Пoбeждaeт cнoвa и cнoвa!

[Anonymous No.15677846]

What can you expect from Space agency that was ruled for 4 years by a guy with education in economics and philosophy that said he thinks American lunar landings are fake. Also former Neo-nazi with photos of him throwing Nazi salute in early 10s

[Anonymous No.15677847]

>>15677846
didn't this guy get his dick blown off

[Anonymous No.15677851]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/russia-seems-to-have-lost-contact-with-its-first-lunar-probe-in-half-a-century/

> The final Soviet lunar mission launched in 1976. In terms of interplanetary exploration, the Russians launched two shots at Mars in 1996 and 2011, but both failed to leave low-Earth orbit. Several European Mars missions have successfully launched on Russian rockets, but those relied on European technology to reach the red planet and operate there. Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Russia has not successfully sent a probe to the Moon.

> Russia has said it does not want to stop with Luna 25. There are plans for a Luna 26 orbiter mission, officially projected to launch in 2027, followed by two more ambitious robotic landing expeditions. But those launches are still years away, and given how long it took for Russia to ready Luna 25 for flight, it's probably a safe bet future Luna missions will be delayed more, if they fly at all.

[Anonymous No.15677852]

>>15677847
Are you the same guy who was asking the same question about Rogozin's cock just six hours ago in this same thread? Give it a rest for a thread or two my guy

[Anonymous No.15677853]

>>15677847
yes the ghost of kiev blew it clean off him

[Anonymous No.15677856]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/nasas-buildings-are-even-older-than-its-graying-workforce/

> But there's a deeper problem with NASA's infrastructure. Erik Weiser, director of NASA's facilities and real estate division, told a blue-ribbon National Academies panel Thursday that the agency's budget for maintenance and construction is "wholly underfunded."

>In his presentation to the National Academies committee, Weiser described NASA's infrastructure as in an "increasing state of decline." There's a mismatch between what NASA needs to maintain or upgrade its facilities and the dollars the agency devotes to those efforts. The maintenance gap is $259 million per year using NASA's most conservative estimate, or more than $600 million if NASA followed the maintenance practices of the commercial industry, Weiser said.

> Weiser said 83 percent of NASA's facilities are beyond their design life. That's well above the percentage of NASA's workers eligible for retirement, about 25 percent, which itself a significant worry for the space agency.

[Anonymous No.15677858]

>>15677856

[Anonymous No.15677860]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/nasa-has-repaired-its-mobile-launcher-so-lets-map-out-the-path-to-artemis-ii/

> With NASA’s mobile launcher on the move, here’s a road map to Artemis II

> NASA is using the $1 billion launch platform for its first three Artemis missions. This is the structure that the rocket sits on during launch preparations, moving the vehicle between its assembly building and its seaside launch pad at Kennedy. Assembly of a separate, larger, more expensive tower is finally underway at the Kennedy Space Center for missions starting with Artemis IV in the late 2020s.

[Anonymous No.15677863]

>>15677856
sucks to suck.
I'll tell you the aerospace companies are sitting pretty though. I've toured a handful in the last few years and they're all spick and span with nice new facilities. Maybe NASA doesn't understand how to spend their money? just a thought.

[Anonymous No.15677866]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/rocket-lab-pivoting-to-downrange-neutron-landings-to-meet-customer-demand/

> Wider landing legs
>One notable difference is that the rocket's landing legs are now more widely splayed from the bottom. This is because the company now anticipates landing the vehicle down range, on a barge, more often than originally intended.

> Upper-stage changes
>The new design also has a pointier upper stage with higher grid fins. Beck said grid fin placement results from analyzing and refining the vehicle's aerodynamics, and that it provides more control and better accuracy.

> Neutron wen?
> Rocket Lab is still working toward a 2024 launch date, but Beck is realistic about the potential for delays, especially with the upcoming second-stage tank tests and development work to complete on the Archimedes engine.

>"The schedule says we can get there," he said. "The rubber is going to hit the road in the next six months after we get some of these big tests under our belt. We are certainly going to try to have something on the launch pad in 2024, but you know, it’s a rocket program."

[Anonymous No.15677869]

>>15677863
everything is hoovered up for one-off 1 billion launch towers

[Anonymous No.15677870]

>>15677851
I guess if they spread millions and millions of pieces of debris over the Moon by 2060, they can technically claim that they sent the most mass there

[Anonymous No.15677880]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/rocket-report-europes-final-countdown-for-2023-sls-to-carry-more-cubesats/

Small Rockets
> Astra delays debut of its Rocket 4.
> Assessing the road ahead for Virgin Galactic.
> Russia tests reusable rocket with wings.
> Rocket Lab's quarterly earnings look good.
> Europe set for final launch of 2023.
> HyImpulse to debut suborbital rocket.

Medium Rockets
> SpaceX turns a slight profit to start 2023.
> SpaceX offers mid-inclination rideshare.
> Falcon 9 leads the world in upmass, and it's not close.

Heavy Rockets
> Starship takes a regulatory step forward on Starship.
> NASA developing a larger SLS cubesat deployer.

[Anonymous No.15677881]

>>15677846
>that said he thinks American lunar landings are fake
Pretty sure he said this just to piss Americans off. Just like the trampoline comment.

[Anonymous No.15677887]

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/russias-krylo-sv-reusable-rocket-conduct-drop-test

> The Krylo-SV folding wing solution is to be offered for the first stage of a future SLK, ultralight class rocket. This two-stage launch vehicle is to be able to deliver 600 kg of payload to orbit and is being studied by Khrunichev Space Center.

[Anonymous No.15677889]

>>15677887
I take superconductor and fusion hype news more seriously than new russian rocket news at this point

[Anonymous No.15677895]

[Anonymous No.15677898]

[Anonymous No.15677899]

what was the first orbital rocket that didn't have military part/design heritage?

[Anonymous No.15677902]

>>15677851
*special midcourse operation

[Anonymous No.15677910]

>>15677899
maybe some ISRO stuff from what I've heard

[Anonymous No.15677913]

>>15677899
Orbital? And purely non military? I’d say the Saturn family and the LM.

[Anonymous No.15677917]

>>15677899
I was going to say Pegasus, but even if it's stages were new Hercules at least use tech they had left over from a small ICBM program.

The Japanese Mu series would be a good bet, since Japan had to put up with some pretty hard restrictions on the military use of rocket technology.

[Anonymous No.15677918]

>>15677913
Oh wait I didn’t even read your whole post. No heritage whatsoever? That’s really vague and almost every engine can probably trace its roots back to V2/R-7 engine design so. Idk. Other anon said ISRO but even India got help from others who originally drew up schematics for ICBMs
I bet the LM would still be the correct answer but I’d have to confirm the decent and ascent engines were purely from scratch. I know one of them was outsourced because Aweojet couldn’t figure out the injector in time or something. And yes the LM is orbital

[Anonymous No.15677922]

>>15677730
No, neither are cringe. Seethe harder /ic/fag

[Anonymous No.15677923]

Klingon D7 >>>>>>>>> SpaceX Starship

[Anonymous No.15677925]

>>15677918
The Saturn I was a cluster of military stages topped by a cluster of military derived RL10s.

[Anonymous No.15677929]

>>15677922
AI didnt do that spacex logo, a human shooped it in. and human artists are cringe you dumb fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.15677930]

>>15677923
Breen warships. I love asymmetry

[Anonymous No.15677932]

>>15677923
You're a pedophile

[Anonymous No.15677934]

>>15677899
Maybe something Japanese? I remember watching a hullo video about how they had to be very careful about designing their orbital rockets so they couldn't be used as ICBMs

[Anonymous No.15677935]

>>15677930
Bird-of-Prey.

[Anonymous No.15677941]

>>15677934
Unless i’m severely mistaken the original LE engines were just gifted Atlas tech from the United States

[Anonymous No.15677942]

>>15677935
Being a Star Trek newfag (I only watched the first 4 movies so far, starting some months ago) I must say I liked Bird of Prey more than the Enterprise,

[Anonymous No.15677946]

>>15677942
>I liked Bird of Prey more than the Enterprise,
I'm not surprised. Industrial Light and Magic was a powerhouse (they designed it).
Disney ain't treating it right.

[Anonymous No.15677948]

>>15677946
I guess Star Wars just conditioned me to prefer gritty looking spaceships.
But am I misremembering or the Bird of Prey was much greener in the previous movie?

[Anonymous No.15677951]

reminder

[Anonymous No.15677956]

[Anonymous No.15677957]

>>15677923
>>15677930
>>15677935
>>15677942
>>15677946
>>15677948
Kill yourself offtopic faggots. Go take your basedgoy shows to /tv/

[Anonymous No.15677959]

>>15677948
That's because they beat the hell out of it in battle, stole it, and parked it outside on a desert planet and then San Francisco. It's a grimeship.

[Anonymous No.15677964]

Star trek is magic fantasy, not even hard scifi
Might as well talk about marvel movie spaceahips

[Anonymous No.15677966]

maybe some titan by stephen baxter, hmm

[Anonymous No.15677969]

>>15677964
I watched a scene from star trek on youtube. It's more like a youtube poop shitpost than a story, honestly.

[Anonymous No.15677971]

>>15677957
You are a sōy wojak

[Anonymous No.15677978]

>>15677569
>L.H.O.
it was the CIA and you know it

[Anonymous No.15677984]

>>15677969
Some it seems like it would be entertaining to watch, but you have to think it as fantasy and suspend disbelief

[Anonymous No.15677999]

>>15675426
They would be stupid not to.

[Anonymous No.15678002]

>>15677964
oh now this bullshit argument is extending to star trek too?

[Anonymous No.15678004]

>>15677956
based

[Anonymous No.15678005]

>>15678002
Kill yourself and go back to /sffg/
>>>/lit/sffg/

[Anonymous No.15678012]

>>15677492
Tail too big

[Anonymous No.15678028]

>>15678005
>check general
>someone is saying tolkien is bad because it is socially unrealistic

[Anonymous No.15678030]

>>15678002
name 3 things they do in star trek that are grounded in real science

[Anonymous No.15678032]

>>15678028
/sffg/ is famously retarded kek

[Anonymous No.15678034]

>>15678030
explain me how the space odyssey baby is grounded in real science

[Anonymous No.15678036]

>>15678030
Eat
Talk
Sleep

[Anonymous No.15678039]

>>15678036
kek

[Anonymous No.15678040]

>>15678032
Man those Sun systems get around
Ten years ago we still had two kicking around

[Anonymous No.15678042]

>>15678032
Its a containment thread for faggots that come here to derail the threads with NON SPACEFLIGHT TOPICS. >>15677526 this anon is right that other fag jinxed it so hard.

[Anonymous No.15678045]

Do america really?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/quiet-thrusters-flying-cars-comes-out-stealth-development
>Originally developed under a $5.1 million DARPA grant, the NASA-proven ducted thrusters have undergone over a quarter-century of refinement through full-scale flight testing in wind tunnels and several prototype manned vehicles.

[Anonymous No.15678046]

did anything interesting happen today at boca chica

[Anonymous No.15678047]

>>15677964
Star Trek is space opera, Star Wars is fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15678049]

>>15678045
That's super cool though.

[Anonymous No.15678050]

>>15678045
This is pretty sensational. NASA has been openly researching eVTOLs for a while now (they have the word ‘aeronautics’ in their name after all)
The coolest concept I’ve seen has been Joby’s concept. But nevertheless I don’t think they will ever become popular or dependable. Like I can’t imagine electric flying ubers.

[Anonymous No.15678051]

>>15678045
>55 decibels
Holy shid

[Anonymous No.15678052]

>>15678050
They'll probably be computer flown once who is at fault gets nailed down.

[Anonymous No.15678053]

>>15678050
Nobody's got a rooftop helipad, so the usefulness is extremely limited to New York and LA

[Anonymous No.15678055]

>>15678053
RTFA. These things can fit in a standard garage and land on a driveway.

[Anonymous No.15678057]

>>15677691
they're not, the RTGs only had a few decade lifespan

[Anonymous No.15678058]

>>15678032
>alright, I will!

[Anonymous No.15678059]

>>15678055
Good for them, there's still nowhere for them to land that isn't already an airport

[Anonymous No.15678066]

>>15678055
No way people would put up with that hahah. Maybe on Titan where everyone can just flap a simple wing suit and fly. But downtown cities? You’re not pulling up to every street with a mid sized aircraft. And no one’s gonna want to sink the money to build thousands of new landing pads

[Anonymous No.15678068]

>>15677847
yeah

[Anonymous No.15678074]

>>15677226
incinerator.png

[Anonymous No.15678078]

>we are getting flying cars
elon/robert de niro BTFO for all time

[Anonymous No.15678079]

>>15677741
go back to /po/

[Anonymous No.15678082]

>>15677758
It's only historic as long as written documentation exists

[Anonymous No.15678089]

>>15678082
Prehistoric lunar landings (I never told anyone I went)

[Anonymous No.15678091]

>>15678058
>Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

[Anonymous No.15678095]

>>15678089
Based caveman astronaut

[Anonymous No.15678096]

>>15678066
the point is that its quiet

[Anonymous No.15678100]

>>15678045
You can tell it's real because someone drew a picture of it working. Brb feeding my equally real Pegasus.

[Anonymous No.15678116]

>>15678045
Not even one (1) picture of hardware, or even a nicer render
This is less real than the Hill HX50

[Anonymous No.15678124]

>multiple recent lunar landers keep failing
>just design your craft to lithobrake
sometimes my genius is frightening.

[Anonymous No.15678128]

>>15677741
teri rockets

[Anonymous No.15678129]

>>15678124
I have a better idea...

[Anonymous No.15678140]

[Anonymous No.15678143]

What would the infrastructure/vehicles for a commercial lunar sample return probe look like?

Like let’s say hypothetically you can extract helium 3 from the regolith and put it into small vials. How do you get them back?

[Anonymous No.15678145]

>>15678143
>How do you get them back?
Read the manual, anon.

[Anonymous No.15678147]

>>15678143
spinlaunch

[Anonymous No.15678152]

>>15678145
Ah~ Ah~ Mistress Moon~

[Anonymous No.15678155]

>>15678143
>he fell for the helium 3 meme
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15678160]

>>15678140
Not really much point in keeping the landing gear on the core. That rocket's going to be going fast enough to exceed the warranty on the Falcon 9 TPS.

[Anonymous No.15678161]

What’s the point of Angara even? It’s flown like five times and is already supposed to be related by Soyuz 5

[Anonymous No.15678164]

>>15678143
Launch on two Falcon 9s, launched about two weeks apart:
Take the long way to the moon
Use an Astrobotic lander to drop a regolith harvester that gets the Helium 3 on solar power (only designed for one lunar day of operation)
Land a platform near the harvester with an ascent stage, nothing commercial currently exists for this but a cut-down version of the MSR rocket would work
Transfer the samples using the harvester in a robotic mating ritual
Direct return to earth, fire and forget

[Anonymous No.15678170]

>>15678161
*retired goddamn
But seriously. Wtf was the point of Angara?

Anyways, Zenit would’ve been the perfect solution to Russia’s launcher problem.
>Single core Zenit
Soyuz, Progress, medium lift
>Tri-core Zenit
Heavy lift, space station modules, 20+ tons to LEO
>5-core Zenit
Translunar Soyuz, etc.

I know Zenit is Ukrainian, but was Russia seriously unable to build 4 meter Kerolox tanks 20 years ago?
>Oh the RD-171 toolings were in Ukraine
Ok so just double up the RD-180s. Retards.

[Anonymous No.15678179]

>>15678161
Angara 1 is a replacement or competitor for the Soyuz-2-1v. Russia doesn't have that many payloads in this weight class so it's not much of a competition. Angara 3 could be a replacement for the Soyuz-2-1a/b, but the R7 is still the cheapest girl in town and not much short of intentionally retiring the Soyuz is going to shake that. Angara 5 is a nice replacement for the Proton, but Russia only has 1-2 Proton-class payloads per year. To make things more complicated they still have a dozen Proton boosters in storage and would prefer to use those first because they're a bit cheaper and seen as more reliable at this point in their lifecycle.

>>15678170
Russian railroads find 4m tanks a bit too big to handle. Also, all the RD-170/180 tooling is at the NPO Energomash factory in Moscow. The Russians outsourced a lot of thrusters and structure work to the Ukrainians but they always kept a tight hold on primary propulsion. That was why the Chinese had to buy RD-120s from Yuzhmash instead of something a bit more potent.

[Anonymous No.15678200]

>>15678170
Yeah the other anon gave a good explanation. We’ve talked about it in the general the past few days, not sure if you caught those conversations or not. Soyuz 5 is just impractical to launch domestically because of transportation constraints. And the RD-191 used on Angara is a pretty damn good optimization for a single nozzle energomash engine considering they can only fit one on the “domestic” tank diameter needed to launch something from vostochny. Angara isn’t dumb on paper per se, but the corruption behind it and vostochny in general is what is fucked. Plus it’s a positive feedback loop where they need to launch angara more to get prices down but soyuz is simply cheap and reliable and no one in russia wants to cancel it. And I don’t think Irtysh/Yenisei (soyuz 5, just so there’s no confusion hah) is supposed to be a replacement. I could be wrong. I think it’s just an idea russia has for needing something like proton, and having access to baikonur. So why not.
Personally I think russia will just fly Soyuz-2 until the end of time and do occasional Angaras when they need a bit more throw power. Idk where this leaves Soyuz-5 though

[Anonymous No.15678205]

>>15678200
And to add on to this, you could ask “why use angara for the heavy stuff and not just soyuz-5” which is a valid question. I guess my answer would be a) they’ve already sunk so much time and effort into vostochny
b) it always helps to go domestic over a foreign launch site
c) Angara has at least already been tested, which is more than can be said about S5
and d) plans for Yenisei (aka Soyuz-5 heavy) have all but died at this point so it looks like that’s not gonna happen

[Anonymous No.15678206]

>>15678170
>But seriously. Wtf was the point of Angara?

A replacement for Proton. After the breakup of the Soviet Union much of Russia's rocket industry was in Ukraine, Russia needed a new rocket which required setting up industry for it in Russia but during the nineties Russia had no money for it.

>muh Zenit

The whole point of Angara was making a rocket that didn't use Ukrainian parts.

[Anonymous No.15678207]

>>15678205
>>15678200
Soyuz-5 isn't happening.

[Anonymous No.15678210]

>>15678207
They do have tanks for it already though which is surprising and confusing

[Anonymous No.15678215]

A bunch of Indians are crying about Luna 25 lol

[Anonymous No.15678216]

>>15678210
Yes some development happened, but it now it has no launch pad

[Anonymous No.15678221]

>>15678205
If Russia can extract themselves from Baikonur they suddenly have $100M more in their space budget they didn't have the day before. Right now they're stuck because Pad 31/6 is the only Soyuz complex in the world that can handle crewed launches, but as soon as their obligations to the ISS are concluded they are out and not coming back. The best plans for Soyuz-5 would keep them there indefinitely.

>>15678210
RKK Energia really REALLY wants the Soyuz-5 to happen, but whatever political support it had dried up years ago. They're just keeping the project alive in the hopes that will change with the next political reshuffling in Moscow. It's a very classically Soviet way of doing things.

[Anonymous No.15678223]

>>15678161
Actual answer is that prices rose too much in and around the krunichev factory of Moscow, this is why proton went from like absolute dirt cheap (40 millions something In 2023 terms) in the 90s to 100 million+ today
Angara factory is in omsk, middle of nowhere.
The first Angara was hand made in Moscow, hence the 6 years delays

[Anonymous No.15678225]

>>15678216
Russia just needs to rip the band aid off honestly. As soon as ISS is deorbited they should cancel soyuz and go all-in on Angara. It will have growing pains (which is hilarious to say considering it’s already like 20 years old technically) but it would be the wise choice in the long-term I think. Idk, does this sound dumb?

[Anonymous No.15678228]

>>15677577

[Anonymous No.15678236]

>>15678228
sometimes I wish a giant comet made completely of frozen nerve gas would just bullseye this hellhole planet

[Anonymous No.15678239]

Why was Russia so anal about Ukraine having the manufacturing for Zenit? You don’t see Germany getting pissy that France builds Arianes. Why couldn’t Russia just be a team player?

[Anonymous No.15678243]

>>15678225
Unless Russia is willing to keep the Soyuz around forever it's really the smartest call. Angara's really not a bad design. It can handle everything from Vega- to Proton-sized payloads with one modular set of parts, and it'd even be possible to build in some reuse options that work for Russia's strengths and infrastructure. It can't be scaled up into a giant moon rocket the way the Zenit could, but Russia needs to have a serious discussion about it's lunar ambitions, even if it happens privately.

[Anonymous No.15678245]

>>15678236
Just make sure I'm on Mars when it happens, eh anon?

[Anonymous No.15678249]

>>15678239
Russia wasn’t anal until 2014, sea launch existed, and Russia was part of it....
Since they’ve been at war

[Anonymous No.15678261]

>>15678243
>>15678225
Soyuz and Angara are made by different companies, going all in on Angara would kill of a significant portion of Russia's rocket industry.

Angara is also a big rocket that is overkill for a lot of payloads.

[Anonymous No.15678262]

>>15678239
The Slav/Balkan concept of “team playing” is just the strongest player annexing everyone else. And that already failed with mostly bitter resentment left. Anyone who still sides with russia is of no practical use, either in manufacturing or geography for a launch site. Khazakstan is getting tired of lending their land, it seems. And yeah I don’t think ukraine is going to be an ally ever again.
>>15678243
If russia can’t even figure out how to cheaply transport 4.1m diameter tanks across their own country then I don’t think their moon ambitions are going to go anywhere beyond A5 hahah. If they really wanted to they could just commit to the extra cost of air lifting everything for Yenisei, but this is wildly impractical. And they probably aren’t going to set up an Irtysh/Yenisei facility next to Vostochny. I’ve heard no one wants to live there in the first place, much less an entire town of factory workers (really this is what they should do but I know they won’t)

[Anonymous No.15678263]

>>15678221
>If Russia can extract themselves from Baikonur

2028 for the Angara crew module, assuming it isn't delayed again...

[Anonymous No.15678264]

>>15678261
Ahhh shit I forgot about that. Damn I don’t envy russians. This is such a shitty situation with no apparent answer that would satisfy their whole aerospace industry hahah

[Anonymous No.15678265]

>>15678263
Are you talking about Orel? Shit anon, I doubt that even flies until 2035 I’m not even joking

[Anonymous No.15678266]

>>15678239
>You don’t see Germany getting pissy that France builds Arianes

Germany didn't build Ariane rockets only to have the land the factory was on become part of France.

[Anonymous No.15678267]

If I was head of Roscosmos I’d do whatever I could to get Rossiya into Artemis.
And then I’d green light development of a lunar flyby with a Soyuz meeting with a Block D tug from a Proton in LEO (this was planned once).
I would not start fights with Eric Berger on twitter

[Anonymous No.15678271]

>>15678267
>If I was head of Roscosmos I’d do whatever I could to get Rossiya into Artemis.
So coup putin?

[Anonymous No.15678273]

>>15678261
>Angara is also a big rocket that is overkill for a lot of payloads.
It doesn't have to be

You do have a good point about the jobs issue. TsSKB-Progress employs something like 18k people and I really don't know what they'd do if the Soyuz-2 line shut down.

[Anonymous No.15678277]

>>15678271
Does Putin not see that Artemis is (mostly) about exploration and is mostly peaceful?

[Anonymous No.15678279]

>>15678265
https://twitter.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1691426734615240704

[Anonymous No.15678280]

>>15678273
Build Angara cores bam hire me pockocmoc

[Anonymous No.15678281]

>>15678267
Well yeah Rogozin is out now. Borisov probably wants to be in artemis deep down but it’s not his call. Plus if they did participate it would literally just be an airlock and they would likely need to hitch a ride on SLS/Starship which would be terrible for optics
And proton has already sent söyuzes to the moon via the Zond program so it’s doable, although I think zonds were super cucked for mass reasons. I think…

[Anonymous No.15678283]

>>15678273
>It doesn't have to be

1.2 is kinda the same issue but in the other direction with its ~3 ton payload

[Anonymous No.15678284]

>>15678281
Yep, Zond lacked an orbital module. But it still could’ve worked, and did a few times with animals

[Anonymous No.15678290]

So what the hell is the best-case scenario for Russia going forward now?

[Anonymous No.15678292]

>>15678262
>If russia can’t even figure out how to cheaply transport 4.1m diameter tanks across their own country

There have been proposals for super heavy lift rockets that get around the tunnel width limits by being very kerbal.

[Anonymous No.15678293]

>>15678290
I could say something but it would be as realistic as everyone starting to hug each other while unicorns sing about love and peace

[Anonymous No.15678295]

>>15678290
Best case:
>Orbital station before the ISS deorbits
>Orel flying before 2030 to replace Soyuz
>Angara and Soyuz-5 flying regularly
>Yenisei (super heavy Soyuz-5) flies by 2030
>Russian lunar landings in the 2030s, with a base happening before then too
>Also reusable Amur begins flying by the end of the decade

[Anonymous No.15678296]

>>15678292
Stay the second most embarrassing space fairing nation/organisation in the world
After ESA of course

[Anonymous No.15678297]

>>15678290
Paying their damn environmental fee to Kazakhstan, for starters
Last time we talked about this we ended at even our most autistic anons not being able to locate a detailed train map of the transportation lines. So /sfg/ can’t even begin to estimate how easy or hard it would be to expand the bridges to support cheap domestic Irtysh/Yenisei. I suspect the answer is that it’s hard though

[Anonymous No.15678300]

>>15677946
>Disney
Star Trek is Paramount, Star Wars is Disney, unless there's been some mergers I've missed.

[Anonymous No.15678302]

>>15678295
Holy shit literally none of these thing are possible haha it’s over

[Anonymous No.15678303]

>>15677946
oh wait nvm you mean Disney ain't treating ILM right, carry on

[Anonymous No.15678304]

>>15678290
Try to split the difference between Angara 1.2/5 and Soyuz-2 and hope for the best. Keep flying Soyuz-MS capsules until the promised day when Orel is finally finished. Put the finishing touches on Vostochny so Baikonur can finally be abandoned. Try to get ROS operationally in a minimally functional state before 2029 so the cosmonaut program doesn't go through a hiatus like we had to deal with in the West.

>>15678297
The root issue is that Irtysh/Yenisei is more of a want than a real need, and no one in Moscow wants to spend the money needed to make them happen.

[Anonymous No.15678308]

>>15678300
We are talking about the 80's star trek movies

[Anonymous No.15678322]

I predict the soviet station plans will fall apart, and they'll go back to simple one-proton-launch Salyut type stations.

[Anonymous No.15678324]

>>15678308
>>15678303
>>15678300
Shut the fuck up you hairy euro-apes.

[Anonymous No.15678346]

>>15678324
as a south american that's a compliment for me

[Anonymous No.15678383]

>>15676485
Moon has an atmosphere albeit small one

[Anonymous No.15678403]

>>15678383
Luna 25 is a spaceplane

[Anonymous No.15678414]

>>15678403
a second lander has hit the HLS

[Anonymous No.15678425]

>>15678236
The rekt thread on /gif/ would be hilarious

[Anonymous No.15678431]

>>15678290
Staye ahead of Mexico's space program (fictional)

[Anonymous No.15678433]

>>15678346
kek

[Anonymous No.15678471]

>>15677690
>No counties have some seismic sensors on moon? It will be easiest way to confirm Luna crash
there was a international plan about 15 years ago to set up a seismological network on the moon but it got killed off eventually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Lunar_Network

[Anonymous No.15678477]

>>15678296
I think if ISRO wasn't at least moderately successful right now, then they'd deserve at least 2nd place on the embarrassing rocket shit list for even considering the GSLV Mk.II - let alone actually building and launching them

[Anonymous No.15678490]

>>15678477
ISRO is consistently successful tho

[Anonymous No.15678492]

Luna-25 officially over

[Anonymous No.15678501]

>>15678492
Ummmm no. The Xitter tranies assured me everything is fine

[Anonymous No.15678513]

>>15678290
everyone else responded with best-cases for roscosmos (because it's the only part of russia that matters, and is on-topic) but for russia itself probably putin being ousted, then somehow getting control over the rampant corruption, drug use, impending demographic collapse, and somehow mending international relations. any one of those things is a slim chance, and any two of them together is outright impossible.

It's really unfortunate that roscosmos is dependant on such a colossal fuckup of a country; imagine if like saudi arabia or the UAE had total ownership of their tech, knowledge/expertise, and production... angara would be real, flying regularly; the arabs have a lot of comsat experience so there'd probably be at least 1 major non-military megaconstellation; I bet they'd actually be serious about lunar manned missions and shit too

[Anonymous No.15678522]

>>15678492
-ACK

[Anonymous No.15678523]

>>15676316
How very unfortunate
:)

[Anonymous No.15678563]

Millions rubles of equipment was lost. Wooden ruler, camera Canon, thermometer, caliper...

[Anonymous No.15678566]

>>15678490
in case you're unaware, the gslv mk2 is a solid core with hypergolic strap on booster sustainers, I.E. the center solid motor burns out completely empty, and the hypergolic side boosters keep burning for almost a FUCKING MINUTE longer just dragging this stupidly heavy empty steel carcass of a solid rocket center core along, then the whole stack gets dropped via hotstage. those side boosters never detach from the center core because they have a longer burn time than the center core. it is the most unholy example of dead weight and gravity losses imaginable, and it makes SRB/hydrolox-sustainer-core bullshit look perfectly optimized by comparison.

I know other than Chandrayan 2 ISRO's been hitting it off, but that's really the only reason that barely makes up for the utter retardation of their glorified home-grown ICBM turned space launch abomination that uses 1970's Ariane licensed viking engines, with a russian hydrolox upper stage.

My hatred for the GSLV cannot be contained; it's like a pajeet javashitter knockoff scam version of SLS for how many openly wrong design choices were made with it

[Anonymous No.15678586]

i just been farting all night and each fart feels like a poop but no, just more farts

[Anonymous No.15678617]

This faggot baked but didn't link >>15678526

[Anonymous No.15678621]

>>15678566
>it's like a pajeet javashitter knockoff scam version of SLS
more like Ariane 4
it even has the same engines

[Anonymous No.15678631]

>>15678617
sorry i was pretty shocked by the crash

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[Anonymous No.15678698]

>>15678492

[Anonymous No.15678914]

>>15678236
That reminds me of the hypothesis that the Martian ice caps were made of nitrogen tetroxide.

[Anonymous No.15678915]

>>15678492
>clarifying the reason for the loss of the Moon
I'm gonna miss the moon bros