/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15658909]

Science is totally not bullshit, no no on, just t rust the studies, it's 26 billions year old retard.

[Anonymous No.15658930]

>>15658909
And the explanation to it is rather simple: astronomers are discovering objects closer and closer to what the jesuits set as the border of the world.
Meanwhile universe is infinite and eternal, even though it evolved, but it took it infinite ammount of time to do it.

[Anonymous No.15658933]

>>15658909
I will say it
"Science" is Dead

[Anonymous No.15658938]

>>15658930
that's fucking insane, so theres no gods and we won't see aliens? we are stuck in a lonely boring shitty solar system for the rest of our lives? please give me some hope

[Anonymous No.15658941]

The science has changed. The science is settled. Long live the science!

[Anonymous No.15658944]

>>15658938
>we won't see aliens?
what made you think this? infinite universe is full of promise. Once we learn to recognize sygnals from other planets, we'll be able to watch their tv or something of the kind.

[Anonymous No.15658947]

>>15658909
At least science has the balls to admit when it's wrong and refine understanding. Christcucks are content believeing the shit pulled out of the ass by ignorant hunter-gatherers or the ensuing fan fictions taken as "gospel."

[Anonymous No.15658953]

The paper is completely flawed / wrong but don't let that get in the way of a good clickbait article.

[Anonymous No.15658957]

>>15658944
>mfw aliens watching our tv and thinking we're still based

[Anonymous No.15658959]

>>15658947
We have so shrunk the god of the gaps that the Christians are only left with consciousness as the last frontier. Once Chat GPT codes a consciousness upload & display program and we prove that the brain really is just a biocomputer, that'll be the end. Materialism will have triumphed. Then we can all move on.

[Anonymous No.15658962]

>>15658909
>trusting Indian """"scientists""""

[Anonymous No.15658974]

>>15658909
I hate the retardation of Amerimutts who have no idea how empirical research works.
>hurr durr what da fuq is falsification??

[Anonymous No.15658978]

>>15658959
Materialism got BTFOd by Particle Physicists in 20th century zoomer

[Anonymous No.15658986]

>>15658947
idk man the whole " self-correcting" feature of science seems to be just one meme to next to me.
> come up with half assed BS
> akshually it was le wrong, we have now come up with *another half assed BS*
> muh profound scoyence

[Anonymous No.15658990]

>>15658986
Come up with a better method to gain knowledge of nature other than le self-correcting then. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.15658998]

>>15658990
We aren't gaining any knowledge, just moving from one guess to other.
Infact we aren't even self correcting desu b cause we don't know the truth.
I doubt whether we can even know it, there is no proof that nature is rational.

[Anonymous No.15659012]

>>15658998
>umm actually things are complex and the word "knowledge" doesn't mean it's always true and thus "self-correcting" doesn't mean we are closer to teh truth
So you don't have anything better to offer... kek

[Anonymous No.15659017]

>>15658998
At least we tried our best, it's amazing how we're the only species in our known galaxy to figure out this shit. We were simply just horny apes who can stand on their feet.

[Anonymous No.15659038]

>>15658947
>rent free
Do you just constantly have thoughts running through your head about how evil Christians are.
We get it, you parents were a little strict and now you have a broken relationship with them, it's time to stop your 30 year old teenager rebellion phase and grow up.
>picrel
Last time I checked Christianity didn't give us this, the worse they'd do is snip the tip of a babies dick

[Anonymous No.15659040]

>>15659038
God people who do trans surgery are literally insane, how fucking stupid can you be to think you're an actual man for having some mutant fake penis?

[Anonymous No.15659047]

>>15659040
Sorry Chuddy, the science says this is natural, healthy, and beautiful. You WILL have sex with a trans woman

[Anonymous No.15659052]

>>15658909
Anon, science can't even decide what is a woman, why do you expect anything good from it?

[Anonymous No.15659054]

>>15659038
>>15659047
This is rather a psychological and sociological opinion, THO. Hormone therapy and surgery is just a tool for that.

[Anonymous No.15659057]

>>15659052
>Anon, science can't even decide what is a woman, why do you expect anything good from it?

[bodhi No.15659058]

>>15658957
they saw tranny story hour and withdrew their interest of extending us an invitation to the galactic confederacy

[Anonymous No.15659063]

>>15659054
No it's fucking unbearable retarded to these surgeries, it's natural selection at its finest when you rip parts of your skin off to make a phony penis. Gender is developmental, you can't just change your gender when you feel like it.

[Anonymous No.15659082]

>>15658909
>Come up with theory
>It's retarded
>Make all of the numbers involved really fucking large so that any problem with the theory can be explained away
>See: Biogenesis, Evolution, modern space "science" etc.

[Anonymous No.15659084]

>>15659082
Space is so fake and gay, I believe in our solar system but that's it, everything else doesn't matter consider how far and large everything is.

[Anonymous No.15659087]

>>15658947
>At least science has the balls to admit when it's wrong and refine understanding.
Very low quality bait.

[Anonymous No.15659088]

>>15659054
>just a tool for that
Why don't Trans suicide rates change pre and post transition?

[Anonymous No.15659089]

>>15659063
I mean there's the picrel guy who chopped off his fingers and heavily modified his whole body to look like an alien. Whatever opinion you have on him, call him crazy or being filtered by natural selection, he has the legal right to autonomy and surgery is a means to achieve that goal.
>Gender is developmental, you can't just change your gender when you feel like it.
That's like, your opinion, man.

[Anonymous No.15659103]

>>15659088
I dunno, i'm not trans. Also assuming that is true this isn't related to science whatsoever

[Anonymous No.15659105]

>>15658998
If you can't defend your groundbreaking hypothesis it will be quickly refuted
At least they're not killed for blasphemy
>there is no proof that nature is rational
What does this even mean? The current model of the big bang and the expansion of the universe is supported by a wealth of observational evidence and has explained various cosmological phenomena. For this new research to gain traction, further research and theoretical developments would be required. Only retards who only read popsci headlines are confused. The pajeet only considers supernova data which is totally insufficient to support his bold claim. Pajeets making bold claims using insufficient data get exposed, that's the best part about science. Observational data gathered by instruments used to stress test current cosmological models is valuable. There is a basic set of cosmological observations that any contender for the big bang's title needs to explain. That's how your new theory buys its ticket. "Solving" a new puzzle (the JWST observations) doesn't count for much if it can't explain the established data.

[Anonymous No.15659117]

>>15659089
>thats like ur opinion man

Don't come crying to me when you age like shit and have braindead health issues and mental instability. Fucking jews like you is why people are so mentally ill these days, keep pushing this shit onto people, i'm gonna enjoy the outcome.

[Anonymous No.15659280]

>>15658909
Science is settled.

WTF CHUDS!!!! TRUST DEY EXPERTS!!!

[Anonymous No.15659373]

>>15658909
>some pajeets said something
>this means every other cosmologist agrees with them and that it trumps all other evidence
OP is a faggot and should kill himself for posting tw*tter screencaps

[Anonymous No.15659385]

>>15658959
>le brain is le computer meme
Comp sci arrogance never ceases to amaze me. There is no proof of this whatsoever
>Anything with an input and output is a le algorithm
Fields have an input (seeds, time plowing, etc) and an output (fruits). Are you here to tell me all these farm workers are techies since they deal with these computers on a daily basis?

[Anonymous No.15659392]

why is /sci/ filled with retards who don't understand how science works
e.g. >>15658909
>>15658933
>>15658941

[Anonymous No.15659398]

>>15659392
Shut the fuck up you weak soifaggot bitch boy, universe is fake as shit and a waste of time to study. Only thing that matter is getting pussy now.

[Anonymous No.15659405]

>>15659373
Sir we are not pajeets, we are canadian

[Anonymous No.15659440]

hay guise, i know everything about the entire universe!!!
oh and also i can't tell the difference between a picture of a star and a picture of salami

[Anonymous No.15659458]

Let's say that's true. Now what? How will this affect anything?

[Anonymous No.15659469]

>>15659458
nothing, just wanted to call you fags out and it gives me a boner for the day

[Anonymous No.15659514]

>>15658909
>>15658933
>>15658941
>>15659087
>>15659280

>Be a Rock Scientist. A Rocktician if you will.
>Estimate the age of the planet going by the oldest rock you've found.
>Publish this finding in the latest Rock Journals and Rockpedia.
>Rockpedia is circulated for maybe 15 years in schools, universities, etc.
>20 years later find an even older rock because Rockpedia royalties have been good to you and can now afford better, more sophisticated, instruments, tools, rock-measuring devices, etc.
>Republish a new paper with new data.

>UUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH SCIENCE BAD???? SCIENCE MAN LIED?????? SCIENCE MAN SAYS PLANET THIS OLD, BUT NOW THIS OLD????? IF SCIENCE MAN LIED ABOUT ROCK- MAYBE EARTH NOT CIRCLE???? MAYBE DISEASE FAKE *AND* GAY????? WHAT ELSE NOT REALL?????
>Repeat ad infinitum.

[Anonymous No.15659530]

>>15658986
>come up with half assed BS
What is half-assed about it?
You do the best that you can with the information and resources available.
If you get new information and resources, you use them to confirm or deny prior theories.
How fucking stupid are you people?

[Anonymous No.15659535]

>>15659398
>the universe is fake
lol what

[Anonymous No.15659538]

>>15659514
then they shouldn't spout their guesses as fact, nor should they be taught as such in curriculums.

[Anonymous No.15659540]

>>15659514
seethe faggot seethe, astronomers like Neil deGrasse nigson is useless and a bunch of grifters saying useless information. The universe seems fake and retarded and probably not what we have in mind, we're dealing with shit way complicated than we think.

[Anonymous No.15659547]

The best explanation for all the fuckery is that astronomy has been plagued with the most lazy approximation math for so long that each new estimation is based on 50 other lazy estimations

[Anonymous No.15659567]

>>15659038
How does the medical community allow that? I'm being serious.

[Anonymous No.15659580]

>>15659567
I don't know how you can live with yourself as a surgeon fucking up this bad, what the fuck were they thinking doing this shit on a teen trying to get a fake vagina? What the fuck is this sick world?

[Anonymous No.15659720]

It's just some streetshitter selling his schizo theory. No one believes him

[Anonymous No.15659735]

>>15658909
How about the age of Earth?

[Anonymous No.15659747]

>>15659720
>but i believe the jews when they say its a different number
LOL

[Anonymous No.15659756]

>>15659580
bro really wanted to poop out of his vagina :skull: :skull:

[Anonymous No.15659776]

>>15659747
Well you have to believe one set of Jews. Which Jews do you believe?

[Anonymous No.15659887]

>>15659580
If this isn't proof that trans people are mentally ill then I don't know what is.

[Anonymous No.15659899]

>seething when scientists have consensus on something
>seething when one scientist suggests something against the grain
Looks like conspiracycucks just like seething in general, curious

[Anonymous No.15660013]

>>15658909
Mainstream science is modern obscurantism.

[Anonymous No.15660224]

>>15658909
>pajeet scientist scrambles to put out something even the original creator discarded after new discovery
>news report immediately on the flawed pajeet paper
>retards go science(trademark)

[Anonymous No.15660359]

>>15659373
Ramanujan would like a word with you

[Anonymous No.15660365]

>>15659514
but disease is fake and gay.
to project otherwise, you can't.
to insist otherwise, you can't.

[Anonymous No.15660470]

>>15658944
imagine believing this
retard

[Anonymous No.15661357]

astroshit is definitely the lowest iq science
astrotards can't even do basic math

[Anonymous No.15662251]

>>15660470
thats how dumb astro idiots really are

[Anonymous No.15662814]

>>15659038
it was perfect the way it was wht cgange it..

[Anonymous No.15662854]

>>15658909
So where are all the ayys? In 26 billion years somebody should have showed up on Earth by now.

[Anonymous No.15662859]

>>15659567
All they care about is the money. Trust your mechanic etc.

[Anonymous No.15662876]

>>15658909
>>15659392
>>15659514

Apparently you do not even bother thinking about the speicifc problem of aging things in the first place.

There is hardly any method beyond guestimation to age something without any proper reference sample with verified age.
It's all based on assumptions with non verifiyable attributes of anything.
Such as assuming red shift or blue shift.
Assuming speed or distance based on approximations that are approximated with approximations of approximations of quasi related other celestial objects.
It's mysticism with the self betrayal of "we do science" to keep their funding.

It's equivalent to reading tea leaves.
A big circlejerk with the usage of unfathomable timeframes or distances with no relevance to our existance.
This gay space "sience" is the biggest circlejerk and goalpost moving scam industry that exists since religions.
It's always talking about hypothetical unwitnissable meme events.

>oh trust me it is that way, you just cannot observe it because you require like 30 billion $ in funding
>and 200 soientists to interprete the results
>to tell you that there is a event [so far away/so far back in the past/ so short in duration/so small] nobody could actually witness it
>but we can see a indirect surrugate unverifyable parameter that we can interprete and numbercrunch to tell you this insignificant event existed

[Anonymous No.15663005]

>>15662876
Its such a scam man, you’re telling me we paid our tax money for us to be told that space is *gasp* EVEN BIGGER THAN BEFORE? WOWZER :0

[Anonymous No.15663019]

>>15659392
you 1 week ago: It's a fact that the universe is 13.7 billion years old.
You can't call something a fact then backtrack. Learn what a fact is, it's not something that you get through a consensus or something you think is true, it's something that's actually true.
Look at the standard model, people and scientist call that factual. If that changes, backtracking will be done again. Stop calling things facts when there's not definitive proof.
Just like now, if anybody says it's a fact that the universe is 26.7 billion years old, it will be the same thing again.
Facts aren't scientific trivia, they are based in reality.
Even if you are not the one going around saying scientific theories and explanations are factual, at least recognize that it is extremely common in scientific discussion. (not to mention popular culture which always suffers from such arrogance)

[Anonymous No.15663022]

>>15658909
I'm willing to believe that the universe will keep getting older as our understanding of it increases.
26 Billion seems too young for something thats infinitely massive and infinitely expanding

[Anonymous No.15663024]

>>15663022
oh also this scientific consensus also implies that the chances of us meeting life shouldve happened twice as often as it has, and the fact that its still at 0 is a very worrying idea

[Anonymous No.15663025]

>>15658909
Wow, those 500k invested on his research surely paid out!
Humanity feels smarter! 13 billion more years, that will open the path for more research into these billion years, years that will impact the 5b years old earth! Yay

[Anonymous No.15663034]

>>15663022
the universe will be infinite but you can't prove that using empirical evidence therefore they'll just continue stretching the age indefinitely until advancements are made in mathematics and logic that can utilise a priori arguments to answer such questions.

[Anonymous No.15663095]

>>15662876
agi will come out and brainwash us all to follow the true path and all will be well.

[Anonymous No.15663107]

>>15658959
You probably know that it's not ever possible to prove consciousness.

You likely haven't considered that for every 1 conscious automaton or brain simulation, there are 1000 possible simulacra that are not conscious, but fake it.

[Anonymous No.15663135]

>>15663107
Is it really an "act" if there is no alternative action someone "without" a consciousness could take?
what I'm asking is, does it really matter that the brain is fake, if it could only ever function as if its real?

[Anonymous No.15663166]

>>15663135
Alright, so, first of all observe how -- interestingly -- the only way how you could interact with a brain upload is either via text generated by the BU (which in essence also includes audio speech), an image created by it, or if you plug it into a robot, by movement by that robot (let's ignore the latter).
Then, do you not suppose it's completely trivial to have a chatbot that outputs text completely identical to how a human would talk, down the letter, down to every letter a regular human would ever produce via text chat communication?
Why do you think this text output must correspond to some "function" (besides the one relevant for the text generation, and the text generation only) that is taking place inside the brain upload? For example, if the BU says "I am hungry", why does that have to correspond to the BU actually desiring food or feeling a sense of hunger, when it could just correspond to a function of outputting that text because that is what was expected from the current discussion, or even meta-level context (i.e. you expect the BU to be hungry after "starving" it for 3 days, regardless of actually talking to it)?

Your argument holds more sway in trying to describe actual incarnate flesh humans. But for brain uploads and AI, you have no luxury of giving them the benefit of the doubt because they are the same species as the observer. Your only method of interaction with them is via one of these data channels I mentioned, which reduce into a series of tokens that is also trivially outputable by any dumb, non-conscious chatbot.

[bodhi No.15663193]

racism causes causes hurricanes and droughts so you need to import millions of low IQ turd worlders or we are going to burn in fiery hell

[bodhi No.15663196]

>>15663193
oh yah we also need communism to appease the weather gods

[Anonymous No.15663213]

>>15663019
Science is useful but only in medicine and chemistry, astronomy is really pointless and dumb to research, doesn't benefit anyone and we can never leave this planet.

[Anonymous No.15663227]

>>15662876
Build a better model and instruments
>B-b-but I don't have billions of dollars and thousands of scientists!!
Not a argument

[Anonymous No.15663232]

>>15663019
there no definitive proof for anything in science, all scientific theories are just conjectures

[Anonymous No.15663403]

>>15658909
>Double the previous estimate
I know the 13.7 estimate is incorrect because it is based on the hubble constant and speed of light to the edge of the visible universe.

Because I know the hubble constant is incorrect and I know that science has a very large error in distance and gravity estimations I know the current prediction is wrong. I however don't know a better answer.

[Anonymous No.15663514]

>>15659514
>Rock-dating methodology is flawed
Neither estimate were valid. Especially if you knew rock dating is by layer estimation and C14, both if which are highly variable. C14 simply doesn't apply to any rock that was never exposed to the surface air.

[Anonymous No.15663523]

>>15659567
It is just a less ethical plastic surgeon.

[Anonymous No.15663569]

>>15658947
>At least science has the balls to admit when it's wrong and refine understanding
lmfao

[Anonymous No.15663571]

>>15659040
>God people who do trans surgery are literally insane
Not according to le science!

>>15659567
It's science, Chud! Science just can't be wrong, don't be a heretic err I mean science denier

[Anonymous No.15663764]

>>15658947
Science also has a lot of religious dogma. Like the belief that all races are identical except for skin color. And even entertaining other ideas results in ex-communication.

[Anonymous No.15664631]

>>15663227
Why build a better model to observe meaningless events that noby can ever verify and are most of the time background noise and miscalculations?

[Anonymous No.15664806]

If this is true can they just lie about uncertainty in measurements? Because the uncertainty before was ±0.020.

[Anonymous No.15666017]

>>15658953
Yeah modern science journalism isn't real.

[Anonymous No.15666860]

>>15659440
JSWT was completed 14 years behind schedule, and $88 billion over budget, but still worth it for the salami jokes

[Anonymous No.15667326]

>>15658938
We're likely stuck in our Local Group, and possibly whatever the Great Attractor is.
Humanity can still spread to other stars.
We have the technology now to send probes to other star systems, but we don't have the political will to allow for Uranium rockets.

[Anonymous No.15667395]

>>15659567
The answer is money. Some of these surgeons are pulling in a million bucks a year for doing tranny surgeries.
And who pays for it?
US Tax-payers and insurance policy holders.
The REASON why trannyism has become so prevalent is that Obama and his Tranny husband made it a requirement for insurance companies to cover all trans-surgeries.

[Anonymous No.15667580]

>>15659385
You are both fucking morons.

[Anonymous No.15667584]

>>15659580
The shekels must flow.

[Anonymous No.15667591]

>>15662876
You have a very small penis, don't you?

[Anonymous No.15667660]

>>15664806
Well they must do if that's the case.

[Anonymous No.15667688]

>>15658978
explain?
not taking a side either way but I am genuinely curious