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Data doesn't fit your model? No problem, just invent a new force! Whoohoooo you've revolutionized physics! Yayyyyyyy

>> No.15654484

>>15654467
Data not fitting your model is one of the starting points for new scientific discoveries.

>> No.15654517

>>15654467
Data doesn't fit your model?
>Based scientists: the model must be wrong
>/pol/cels: impossible, the Jews must have manipulated the data, here's a screenshot of a part of a 20 year old email where the lack of context makes it sound like there was manipulation

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>>15654467
>matter you can't explain?
>call it dark matter!
>energy you can't explain?
>call it dark energy!
>math doesn't make sense?
>call it dark number!
>force you can't explain?
>call it dark force!

Now you're thinking like a physicist!

>> No.15654577

>>15654556
Holy jpeg

>> No.15654600

>>15654556
If that additional number consistently leads to correct results it's okay. I will althought agree that physicists shouldn't give names to things we are not sure if exist.

>> No.15654613

>>15654556
this is correct and it's the way it should be done

>> No.15655253

>>15654467
Is it dark matter?

>> No.15655261

>>15655253
i hope so but no it isn't

>> No.15655370

>>15654467
that title completely misrepresents the entire paper and whoever wrote it should be ashamed along with the quoted physicist

>> No.15655720

>>15654467
fermilab wastes $5 billion dollars a year to accomplish nothing of any value, scientists are no different than welfare negroes other than they waste far more money

>> No.15655998

>>15654467
make your own unbiased peer reviewed experiments then wtf

>> No.15656106

>>15654467
You are already way behind on this one. They event virtual particles which can't be measured or sensed in any way shape or form, but must be there to explain their models.

>> No.15656123

>>15654467
hopefully after 5+ forces they will at one point figure out the fundamental one which was EM all along

>> No.15656130

covid showed youre all retards
lk99 showed youre all retards

i rather ask drunk tard how the gravity works sicne he atleast experimented getting forced by gravity face-to-concrete

>> No.15656133

>>15654467
What do you expect them to do? Re-examine their fundamentals? None of these soience lemmings are smart enough. Science died last century.

>> No.15656263

>>15654556
That is pretty much exactly how neutrinos were discovered. Neutrinos were predicted to exist into order to make the math involving beta decay & conservation of energy add up right decades before neutrinos could be detected directly.

>> No.15656322

>>15654467
I don't understand, what's the complaint? Data doesn't fit the model, model changes.

>> No.15656977
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15656977

The fifth force is consciousness.

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>>15656322
>Data doesn't fit the model, model changes.
You can make any model fit any data by adding arbitrary post-hoc extensions designed to make the new data fit.

>> No.15656997

>>15656989

Yes. Correct. Welcome to the last 250 years of post enlightenment thought.

>> No.15656999

>>15656997
Should someone with your mental capacity be on the internet without supervision?

>> No.15657010

>>15656999
fucking retard thinks "just add more epicycles" is post-enlightenment thought. the final state of this board...

>> No.15657026

>mercury moving funny? no problem, just invent a new space time! Whoohoooo you've revolutionized physics! Yayyyyyyy

>> No.15657033

>>15657026
>be you: a certified retard
>come up with le clever analogy
>it only ends up highlighting OP's point
>this fact goes over your head

>> No.15657155

>>15656133
>What do you expect them to do? Re-examine their fundamentals?
That's exactly what I would expect.
>None of these soience lemmings are smart enough. Science died last century.
I wonder how many new forces we'll have this century before anyone calls the emperor naked.

>> No.15657164

>>15657155
>I wonder how many new forces we'll have this century before anyone calls the emperor naked.
Maybe 2 or 3 more before the soience priests declare that we live in a simulation and anything that doesn't fit in is a software bug.

>> No.15657170

>>15656106
>virtual particles
>dark matter
>dark energy
>five forces
>new conservation laws
It's an insult to call this science.

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Science reporting is a disaster. A million headlines based on the results of one experiment before it’s been through the full scientific process. They never circle back to clarify things when it’s failed peer review or proven to be impossible to replicate.

The Nature article is better at least, and of course arrives at a completely different conclusion.

>> No.15657240

>>15657173
study just proved that spiritual energy is real. This is the hippy era science

/x/ is the new /sci/

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>>15657240
or genetic and telepathic energy is powerful thing at least. The world has shifted and feminine energy is now prized upon.
Get ready for your furry leaders and Jewish alien screeching (dont get on their ship)

>> No.15657297

>>15657240
I'm gonna train like Goku and spirit bomb all of you.

>> No.15657308

>>15657297
Careful anon, I have finger gun powers.

>> No.15657591

>>15656263
It's also how aether was discovered

>> No.15657765

>>15656997
and also all thought before that, retard

>> No.15657832

>>15654517
Model was always wrong.
We know it was wrong because it wasn't unified.
Inventing more forces only makes said problem worse.

My suspicion of why there's lack of breakthroughs in physics comes from the fact that mathematicians and theoretical physicists can't code.

Instead of creating a robust, well-defined model, writing a simulation and testing if it agrees with reality, they create those hand-wavy barely formal fit-all theories to waste everyone's time and cover for their incompetence.

>> No.15657836

>>15654467
>Am I incorrectly interpreting this data? No, I have discovered a fifth fundamental force of the universe.

Incomprehensible hubris. This is the type of scientist who is ruining our image with the general public.

>> No.15657843

>>15654517
The Jews are the fifth force. There, I unified the two sides.

>> No.15657848

>>15657173
What, no. We will all be using room temperature super conductors next week. Trust me, I am a journalist with no research experience that works outside of STEM.

>> No.15657849

90% of physicists are retards. Dark matter is literally a cope on the level of planet vulcan.

>> No.15657851

>>15657849
You have clearly never met a physicist.

>> No.15657854

>>15654467
Physicist really are the biggest subhumans in Earth

>> No.15657857

>>15657854
It's okay, anon, a lot of people drop out of their physics program, physics can be difficult. No need to take it out on the kind folks here on this prussian basket weaving forum.

>> No.15657862

>>15657851
>>15657857
Seething physicist

>> No.15657877

>>15654467
so i read a book on this that showed the force particles arranges in a matrix. they know what to look for because it completes the mathematical side of it. it's not like they pulled it out of their asses. says a lot more about you than about them desu.