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15649067 No.15649067 [Reply] [Original]

Could something interesting come from the asshole of the internet?

Was "The Haruhi Problem" the peak of all 4chan intelligence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,_or_the_Haruhi_problem

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>>15649067
>superpermutations
>haruhi problem
>bob houston
The 3 faggotiest strings in the English language.

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>>15649067
Quite a bit of really smart posts I've seen on /sci/ honestly (don't take screenshots ever though). It's all diluted by the large number of very stupid posts, but I've been on most online forums as well as most boards of 4chan at this point, and I can say with confidence that /sci/ has the most number of redeemable people. Though they are still a meagre proportion of the total population here. I've genuinely learned some stuff here among all the shitty posts. Like finding gold in a heap of shit. Whereas all other boards don't even have that gold, just a pure heap of shit.

If the jannies did a better job and shut off all the philosophy and /lit/ posting, as well as all the politics and /pol/ posting (& also, especially IQposting), we might have a really nice board, to an unprecedented degree on the internet. Having only quality posters would attract even more quality posters. And before you know it, /sci/ could become mainstream in discourse. Many good things could come of it. But as it is right now very little interesting things come from 4chan. Interesting in the scienctific sense, not talking about memes and stuff.

>> No.15649345

>>15649154
>let's remove all the fun and turn /sci/ into reddit

>> No.15649362

>>15649345
you should go back there

>> No.15649366

>>15649362
I'm probably the only one on 4channel who's never been on reddit. Everything I learned about reddit I learned involuntarily by reading reddit screenshots on 4channel.

>> No.15649384

>>15649345
This. That guy is quite obviously retarded. Really makes you wonder how shitty this board must be if someone like that thinks there's something good about it.

Seriously, why the actual fuck would you come here to demand censorship from petty jannies when you can find just that already on reddit?

>> No.15649453

>>15649067
if that was so important the how come the paper it was published in has no citations

>> No.15649752

Once minors are banned from the interweb surely the level of discourse will improve

>> No.15649914

>>15649345
>I will post my shitposts on a board meant for "Science and Mathematics" and not the boards meant for shitposting
I bet you also take a shit in the kitchen and eat dinner in the bathroom. I can only imagine what you would say if somebody tried to stop you from taking a shit in the kitchen sink.
>let's remove the freedom to shit and turn this house into a prison

>> No.15649924

there two categories of people. truth-seekers and must-protect-feefees.
the truth seekers have adopted models of sorting reality so they get to Truth, no matter what that is.
the must-protect-feefees have developed models which shield them from certain things. kinda like duping yourself into believing shit.
now, when you take psychedelics, they specifically affect your brain, instead of your dick. so they basically just pump up certain parts of the brain, so the result is that whatever was there, is now supercharged.
yes, you do "drop the ego", BUT...you are working with the same models for reality which are specifically crafted to either show you the Truth, either to bullshit you and thus protecting your feefees.

scorpion and the frog. protect your feelings faggots are the mothereffers you should never trust

>> No.15649927

>>15649924
>the must-protect-feefees have developed models
a man that's a coward and a woman that's a fool are the same thing.

men that are cowards can feel empathy for criminals

>> No.15649932

>>15649914
>>let's remove the freedom to shit and turn this house into a prison
the prisoner prison guard is real life muh nigga. it's like they're all corrections officers at the heart

>> No.15649965

>>15649154
The reason people go on 4chan rather than other forums is because it's built for shitposting and has negligible censorship. You don't have to maintain any professional demeanor and if you want to come across as intelligent then you need to say something insightful. The good posters you're talking about are choosing 4chan for exactly the same reason as everyone else, and taking away that reason will drive them elsewhere. For the most part, the properly insightful posters aren't isolated autodidactic geniuses but rather people with phds, industry experience, or just intelligent undergrads who will slot into academia if they so desire. 4chan doesn't cultivate any unique set of people except insofar as its chaos and shittiness creates a unique appeal.

Also, for what it's worth, stupid posts can elicit rigorous responses better than any stupid or open ended question. Especially on an anonymous forum where people get a kick out of being rude.

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>>15649067
>Was "The Haruhi Problem" the peak of all 4chan intelligence?
Probably. The /scg/ shows there are plenty of smart people around.

>> No.15650196

>>15649965
>is because it's built for shitposting and has negligible censorship.
the problem with 4chan is coward and criminals are always gonna gravitate towards something like this

>> No.15650211

the post below

>> No.15650212

I shit and came when I got my diploma

>> No.15650215

the post above

>> No.15650240

>>15649154
pretty much this. ended up here and not leaving soon. plus I feel comfy with you lot, and I get to learn interesting shit. thank you anons

>> No.15650328

>>15650212
>>15650215
samefag

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>> No.15650343

there was that anon here who extracted some glowing radioactive compound. he posted repeatedly on here asking for chemistry tips and eventually he posted pics of his compound, which was glowing.

he was one of my favorite anons here. there were many others who were very smart but unfortunately the pool here is generally bad and has gotten much much worse over the years tbqh

>> No.15650348

>>15649965
Separating the boards by topic isn't censorship though. Not everybody is interested in politics, that's why they come to /sci/ instead of /pol/. Would it really be censorship to ban politics, philosophy, literature and other off-topic posts off of /sci/ and keep it on their respective boards? I mean nobody's stopping you from posting that stuff, just preferably not on the Science board. Shitpost and meme as much as you want, but about science. I don't think you would like it too much of /gif/ posters started posting Trans porn in /pol/ all day with thread titles "Politically speaking, why do politicians like Transcock?" so as to pretend that they are posting politics when they aren't in reality. This is what happens on here. Keeping threads relevant at the very least is important. Otherwise no point in separation of boards, just make it all one big forum.

>> No.15650370

anime is for morons

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>> No.15650820

>>15649067
Can anons explain to a retard why there’s an upper and lower bound to that question? There’s 14 episodes. Shouldn’t there be a single fixed number of orders in which all episodes can be watched?

>> No.15650830

>>15650820
ABCDBAC contains ABCD, CDBA, DBAC.

>> No.15650835

>>15650820
Upper and lower bounds are because it's hard to exactly determine how much it can be concatenated as in >>15650830

>> No.15650839

>>15649366
> 4channel
Lol

>> No.15650841

>>15650370
this is the smartest post i've seen on 4chan

>> No.15650846

>>15650830
>>15650835
Thank you smart anons.

>> No.15650860

>>15649154
>me smart
>me get worked into effortpost whining about moderation from the dumbasses
just ignore them or roast them off the map with your big brain there einstein

>> No.15650877

>>15649067
/sci/ has been overrun by /pol/ tourists following at least three waves (gaymergate, US elections, and ban of incel subleddits). The quality of posting here is lower than on quora aka the place where Indians go to larp as rocket scientists.
The math general has at least 2-3 posters who know graduate-level mathematics. I guess it's because shitposting about it isn't as accessible as making philosophical anti-agenda rants about entanglement, AI, IQ, COVID, and the favourite boogeyman of trannies/faggots.

I used to often post serious shit here (mostly related to math and QFT) when I was still in uni, now I'm just here to help those rare naive anons who come here to better understand some math concepts.
If I do have a lot of free time and willing to do latex formatting, I'd rather just go to stackexchange. It's a bureaucratic cesspool of its own, but at least a lot of people know what they are talking about there (at least in graduate- and research-level math).

It all makes much more sense once you remember that a lot of posters here are still teens or at best in their early 20s, and have been largely lured by the anti-woke fleur of 4chin. Wouldn't expect that to correlate with any intelligence indicator.

>> No.15650996

>>15650877
This is the smartest post on 4chan, and absolutely correct.

People from /pol/ are stupid, and that's why we were unable to defeat their arguments when they started flooding in here, because we are so much smarter than they are.

We told them over and over that we are smarter, but they just wouldn't take our word for it and leave.

Now they run around here freely, posting studies that cast doubt on our most sacred truths, including racial equality, anthropogenic global warming, and the fact that a man can become a woman simply by identifying as one.

If only /pol/ understood how much smarter we are, their arguments would all be defeated and we could again enjoy a safe space, free from unenlightened opinions, hearing nothing but the melodious echoing of our own truth.

>> No.15651000

>>15650996
I'm smarter than both of you.

>> No.15651004

>>15651000
>I'm smarter than both of you.
You wish! I are ten times smartest as you is!

>> No.15651009

>>15650996
>When the psych patients entered your home and started scribbling their delusions on your walls, why didn't you just argue with them and convince them that they were wrong? Since you failed, it clearly means whatever they were scribbling on the walls was the truth.
No amount of arguments can fix a problem that requires medication and/or lobotomy. It is futile. Even Newton & Einstein would lose every argument with any psych patient. Only way you can win is to not argue with the mentally ill at all.

>> No.15651010

>>15651004
All you do is cite textbooks, I am a man. I speak from the heart. You are an enslaved Jew. I'm an ubersmart henchman.

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The one where anon cracked Sarah Palin's gmail password.

The one where anon cracked Hunter Biden's icloud password.

The one where some dude who was a psychiatrist at a prison or something broke down what different IQ levels actually mean in practice.

Everything Terry ever posted.

>> No.15651053

>>15650877
>The quality of posting here is lower than on quora
nothing is worse than quora. quora is the only thing that can consistently make me seethe on the internet

>> No.15651055

>>15651009
>I am arguing with you because there's no point in arguing with you because I would lose, at least that's my argument, therefore I won the argument with you because I would lose to you if I argued with you!
Or maybe /pol/ has some really smart people who happen not to be mindless, obedient sheep like the "I LUV SCIENCE" crowd on /sci/, and you're just butt-hurt because you lost some arguments.

>> No.15651228

>>15651009
This, but the mainstream science are the psych patients.

>> No.15651238

>>15651228
and the best i can say back is fart in my mouf. Fimm is proof

>> No.15651241

>>15651238
Im apt enough to tolerate any pain. This pain shows the level. Will i?

>> No.15651244

>>15651241
a pain of painlessness at the perfect degree

>> No.15651282

>>15651241
all it takes is a bit of love. Someone to make me smile

>> No.15651292

>>15650332
Retard doesn't understand how effective the trunk is, it doesn't need legs to destroy you.

>> No.15651295

>>15649154
>shut off all the philosophy
Scientists who don't engage in philosophical questions within science are peak midwit.
>noooo don't interpret anything just do the math

>> No.15651297

>>15649067
Lk-99 was stolen from 4chan. But guy who wrote was a troll. Unlucky for Korea

>> No.15651298

>>15651292
believe its a lot worse. Youre inaccurate. My current cure is wait til morning and im sloppy

>> No.15651327

>>15650877
oof, you triggered one >>15650996

>> No.15651328

>>15651036
do you have the IQ one saved? sounds fun

>> No.15651338

>>15650996
oof, you triggered one >>15651327

>> No.15651755

>>15650343
The one I remember the most (might have been /diy/) was "The Wormed One", who had determined there was a blood compound in certain worms that enabled a major increase in oxygen update.
And he planned to inject himself with it. I haven't heard from him for a long while, so he might be part of the shrinkage of the pool.

>> No.15651761

>>15650768
>Tourette meats ADHD by way of coprolalia
Impressive.

>> No.15651772

>>15651755
I vaguely remember it, I think I even advised him that he can use cobalt chloride to the same effect.

>> No.15651824

>>15649366
I’ve never been.

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>> No.15651888

>>15651772
I recently read that cyclists are even faster these days than when Lance "live strong" Armstrong abused cycles and chemicals. And that person claimed cyclists are now clean. My suspicion that this is just like the early days of EPO: people reaching new levels while authorities are clueless.

So could CoCl be it?

>> No.15652284

>>15649345
Name 1 (one) good science board on reddit
>>15649965
I go on 4chan because I don't need to sign in. I don't care about censorship, anonymity, or any of that other bullshit. I just want to post without the hassle of managing yet another internet account. Once in a blue moon, I'll see a decent post on here and it keeps me coming back. I'm like the lab rat who comes back for more because the reward is random.

>> No.15652296

>>15652284
It was you claimed reddit was better than 4channel. You want reddit style censorship and a strict "no fun" policy.

>> No.15652314

>>15652296
This is my first post here

>> No.15652322

>>15652314
I don't care. You posted an asinine reply defending the retard who wants reddit style censorship. I don't like you.

>> No.15652338

>>15652322
How's keeping things on-topic censorship? Just go post in the right board.

>> No.15652343

>>15652338
How are IQ, covid, consciousness and epistemology not on topic on a science board? You are just triggered by popular topics because someone disproved your objectively false opinions on these.

>> No.15652360

>>15651036
>The one where some dude who was a psychiatrist at a prison or something broke down what different IQ levels actually mean in practice.
Post it please

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>>15649453
>REEEEEEEE SHUT UP NORMIE!!!
>MUH ANIME PUBLICATION IS IMPORTANT
>I AM SUPER HIGH IQ BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE ON /sci/ MADE A POST THAT LEAD TO A REPLICATION CRISIS PUBLICATION 10 YEARS AGO
>I DON'T CARE IF THE NORMIES NEVER CITED MUH ANIME PUBLICATION

>> No.15652363

>>15652343
>IQ
>covid
90%+ of posts on these are /pol/-bait
>consciousness
>epistemology
True, that's on-topic. I disagree with the original poster that philosophy doesn't have its place in /sci/.

>> No.15652368

>>15652363
>/pol/ is out to get me!!!!
>its a massive conspiracy!!!!
>i am the center of attention!!!

>> No.15652370

>>15652363
I rarely see /pol/ bait in IQ threads. Most of the time it's just people comparing their math skills.

>> No.15652383

>>15649067
intelligence is a wirl falling backward in core time thats about it.

>> No.15652385

>>15652370
Basically all IQ threads are just pol bait.

>> No.15652388

everything I post of course

>> No.15652389

>>15652383
you are a wirl falling into the past no matter if you are the moon or just a humus.

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>>15652343
nta
>posts thread "Scientifically speaking, why do humans like to eat logs of shit"
>*attaches scat porn*

>Nooooo, I am not posting scat porn threads, it says "scientifically speaking" so it is related to science, don't censor me you Nazi bigots
>Why are you triggered by popular topics just because I disproved your delusions that humans don't like eating shit
Stop doing this. Stop acting senile.

Picrel is examples of the topics you're talking about. All active threads currently. I'm not gonna ask you to explain how these are science-related. Because they're not and you know it. They're explocitly philosophy & politics related. But you will still come up with some retarded cope "No, actually, it says 'correlation' so it is science." Don't wanna hear it. Just wanted to point out how retarded you are, not looking for a response. But stop being retarded.

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>>15649067

>> No.15652402

>>15652395
>I hate /sci/ board culture and 4channel culture in general
Redirecting you to reddit.com ...

>> No.15652410

>>15652395
But nobody posted a scat porn thread.

>> No.15652411

>>15649067
Once in a blue moon 4chan will deliver an anon capable of insightful conversation. 4chan is to farm this
>>15651835
No place better than /sci/ /lit/ or /his/ to bait a retard into a prolonged debate about fuck all. Just watching someone piss hours of their life away trying to prove something gives me an erection. This is the true essence of 4chan everyone else is a fucking wrong and should probably go back.

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>>15652411

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>>15652410
>But I did done eat breakfast

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>>15652548

>> No.15653125

>>15650370
this is the dumbest post i've seen on 4chan

>> No.15653129

>>15650370
biz is what happens when you try to break out of what works. Instead of posting anime girls they have spammed pepe over 1 million fucking times and really its fair to say millions of times.

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>>15651328
>>15652360
Link me any places where people can talk about iq.

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>>15651295
>This, but the mainstream science are the psych patients.

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Not me. Me iz the stupid :-(

Physics in Excel w wingdings? What the heck in wuz me thinking!

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This book is literally a thread from /trv/.

>> No.15654129

>>15649924
god, shut the fuck up

>> No.15654130

>>15653892
>absolute fucking retards, at least 50% illiterate
These two aren't even connected. You can be literate and an absolute fucking retard (just read /sci/ or /pol/), and you can be illiterate but still understand logical reasoning and recognise patterns (which is what is supposed to be measured by IQ).

In other words: anon is larping. Big surprise.

>> No.15654147

>>15652451
Something was definitely up in sep 2019.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_2019_events_in_the_U.S._repo_market

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>>15654130
>You can be literate and an absolute fucking retard (just read /sci/ or /pol/), and you can be illiterate but still understand logical reasoning and recognise patterns (which is what is supposed to be measured by IQ).

I accept this premise. It is arguable whether "anon" contradicted this premise at all; and even if he did it was only incidental to his primary listing of [math]iq[/math] phenomena.

I also question your own understanding of your own premise, since "literate" and "retarded" can be interpreted as quantitative, contextual spectrums rather than binaries.

Finally, please link me any places where people can talk about [math]iq[/math].

>> No.15655089

>>15653892
My search has been (((desolate))) since I ran out of those Jordan Peterson IQ lectures, Stefan Molyneux IQ videos, and Da Bell Curve by Libtard Murray of Buttkiss

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>>15655089
>Peterson
>Molyneux
>Murray
That's unsurprising considering their loyalties. But I was thinking more a place where the hoi polloi could have a dialog, rather than a lecture from on high.

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>>15655113
We fought the wrong guys in WW2 and laid down undersea cables to spite them rather than to delight in them.
There is no frens amogus. Only an intimate dream and cairn of stonetoss posting.

>> No.15655331

>>15649067
Smart does not mean knowledgeable. I'm in the top 0.03% of IQ and I don't know much to offer and haven't done anything. My posts are far from smart.

Someone positing or solving the problem you referenced doesn't indicate intelligence. It means they have an above average IQ and time. I wouldn't waste my mind thinking about that or even trying to solve it.

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>>15651835
I post just like him. I think it's so cool.

>> No.15656752

>>15651292
Retard doesn't understand that you literally cannot punch an elephant in the butt to death

>> No.15656759

>>15653892
Imagine how quickly a site would get taken down if it had a focus on open discussion about IQ. A good portion of /sci/ can't even handle it.

>> No.15656764

Nintendo ninjas tounge my anus.

>> No.15657380

>>15656752
Elephant is obviously dumb. But try an aligator on land. I thought hit and run with a stick would work but anons disagreed

>> No.15658602

>>15649154
So you want reddit?

>> No.15658681

>>15649154
I agree desu /sci/ probably has the highest avg iq of 4chan boards (probably not comparable to rat adjacent spaces like ssc since its diluted by retards and tourists)

>> No.15658737

>>15649067
Not the smartest posts, but my favorites are always the testimonials. There's at least two or three dozen different recognizable anons who were inspired by /sci/ the first few years after it launched to go back to school for STEM and who are all either in doctorate programs, industry, or education now and it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling to know that, whatever else might be said about this board, it's ultimately left the world a better place.

>>15649154
We have good threads from time to time (I remember earlier this year we had like a month-long discussion with a bunch of plasmafags arguing over vacuum systems and diagnostics for DIY experiments and it was fucking awesome). Sifting through shit to find the diamonds in the rough is just normal whether it's 4chan or academic journals.

>> No.15658745

>>15657380
tecnically it should work as long as the stick is longer than the croc and is heavy enough, but you'll need to be quite stong to run after hitting if he seriously wants to kill you

>> No.15659029

>>15649067
didn't some math autist here claim to prove to his professor that the speed of light wasn't a constant and they agreed to keep it quiet?

>> No.15659031

>>15659029
Citations on this pls
There are a lot of schizoposters trying to shill impossible science they've divined during a meth fever dream, but this one new to me.

>> No.15659179

>>15659031
lol, it's bs - every other week we've got some faggot on here claiming they "like, totally proved relativity/quantum physics/conservation of angular momentum/etc wrong and it's being covered up!"

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>>15656759
>Imagine how quickly a site would get taken down if it had a focus on open discussion about IQ.

What about a related but harmless topic, e.g. psychometrics?

>> No.15659861

>>15650370
this
also this >>15659859

>> No.15659900

>>15649366

you're holding yourself back thinking like that.

>> No.15661200

>>15649067
You have to sift through a lot of retardation and trolling, but sometimes I see some people here that are very smart.
Oddly, those ones are more kind and patient compared to the angry kids who pretend to be smart.

>> No.15661245

>>15650370
highest iq post of all time