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15617144 No.15617144 [Reply] [Original]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.00676.pdf

Karsten Held is the coauthor.

>> No.15617146

>>15617144
nice

>> No.15617149

>>15617144
already proven to be diamagnetic though

>> No.15617150

>>15617144
>Karsten Held
I'm not STEM, is this person known and does his opinion matter?
>>15617149
By who?

>> No.15617151

>>15617144
WE'RE BACK BROS

>> No.15617152

>>15617150
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14p4y1V7kS

>> No.15617153

>>15617149
Where, when, by who exactly

>> No.15617155

>>15617150
Held is a computation whiz

>> No.15617156
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>>15617150
he's not a chink at least

>> No.15617157

>>15617152
If they don't have a paper with the properties of the material properly described then that's no proof. They could've just messed up manufacturing.

>> No.15617160

It's Diamagnetism

>> No.15617164

>>15617157
>{{{computational result}} vs actual test
Done.

>> No.15617174

It was just confirmed to be superconductivity, but it's useless.

>> No.15617178

>>15617174
By what team?

>> No.15617179
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>>15617152
I see, I misunderstood. I thought the new paper was implying normal diamagnetism was unlikely since it was Meissner effect, however it's saying that any kind diamagnetism, including Meissner, isn't likely?
Unsure as to what the Chinese's team current position is, but yesterday they thought it was Meissner effect.

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>>15617160
>It's Diamagnetismdia

>> No.15617183

>>15617178
i don't remember the name, I saw it on a dream

>> No.15617198
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15617198

There's more intentional disinfo in LK-99 threads than a fucking election thread.
Meissner effect was proven by the Chinese earlier today.
Anyone who claims otherwise is purposefully lying to you.

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>>15617179
holy shit
>Meissner
>but diamagnetism
So, did we actually on the brink of finding out a new laws of physics or something?
what kind of thing we have stumbled on?

>> No.15617209

>>15617201
It's either a superconductor or a very strong diamagnetic material. Either would be worthy a Nobel prize imo

>> No.15617224

>>15617209
Would an absurdly strong diamagnetic material still allow for hovertech? It's not quite the groundbreaker as superconducting but still.

>> No.15617228
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>>15617209
If it's a superconductor Nobel can't prize them without changing its name to LK prize first

>> No.15617232

>>15617164
Test of what nigger. What they're testing is important, if they failed to manufacture the material correctly then their test is meaningless. Which is why we need to know if the properties of the material they tested match those of the original paper.

>> No.15617237

>>15617144
OP HERE: Another paper!

https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00698

This one co-signed by Stephen Lany and Mark Van Schilfgaarde - two magic heavyweights with h-indexes of around 70

>> No.15617244

>>15617237
Huh, shit actually living up to the hype for once.
It might take a decade for a practical form of this LK99 concept to be realized, but even still.

>> No.15617252

>>15617237
Claiming that regardless of lk99 success - the concept should produce a room temp superconductor!

>> No.15617253

>>15617237

Seems like we found a path for superconductivity even if LK-99 isn't it. Even if it ends up being a dud I bet labs around the world will be trying to find the material that will actually be it.

>> No.15617255

>>15617224
I guess not because a important factor for that is the quantum locking

>> No.15617261

>>15617237
Yup. Think it's time to put gookgods on my altar

>> No.15617265
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>>15617237
Post yfw you never doubted

>> No.15617266

>>15617237
Oh fuck, could it be happening? I wasn't around for the cold fusion hype—is this at all similar? Was there a flurry of potential positive experimental findings and supporting theoretical papers at the beginning? I want to believe but I'm still skeptical.

>> No.15617270

>>15617237
If this is real I will believe that aliens are real and Zuckerberg is reptilian

>> No.15617271

Diamagnetismbros...

>> No.15617273

>>15617266
No. No one ever found anything supporting that hoax to the slightest degree.

>> No.15617274

>>15617237
I feel very fortunate to be born at the time I was

>> No.15617275

>>15617253
>inb4 gold is the magic element that is better than copper
>gold investing boomers win again

>> No.15617276

>>15617266
OP here: yes. But we do have some actual footage of putative supporting results here. We’re in the home stretch. If a team replicates resistivity results - we’re in the hot superconductor age.

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>>15617144
We're so back

>> No.15617283
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>>15617237
We're so fucking back it's unreal

>> No.15617289

>>15617279
God damn. Has the back-o-meter ever been this back?

>> No.15617292

>>15617283
>the weigt here is from
>the weigt here
>the weigt
>weigt
>weigt
Confirmed hackfrauds.

>> No.15617304

>>15617279
Where are we back to?

>> No.15617316

>>15617292
Being illiterate is very STEM

>> No.15617325

DOUBTSISTERS WE CAN'T KEEP LOSING LIKE THIS

>> No.15617326

>>15617292
I got ass raped for making a mistake like that on my thesis. The standard for students is far higher than actual professionals.

>> No.15617333

>>15617326
well yeah the point is to filter out students not making actual research

>> No.15617338

>>15617279
needlebros... is this it? will we hit 100% back?

>> No.15617339
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>>15617304
to this becoming a reality in our homes

>> No.15617343

>proto-AGI
>possible RTSC
>covid advanced genetic engineering progress by decades
Transhumanistchads have won.

>> No.15617353

>>15617343
In 3000 years I am going to use spacetime tunneling to resurrect all my posting enemies who mocked my ambition to defeat death and laugh. A long, triumphant laugh. And then offer them a hoverboard and a haydee sexbot because I'm a nice guy.

>> No.15617355

>>15617209
>It's either a superconductor or a very strong diamagnetic material
How would a non-superconductor have such strong diamagnetic properties? There are no other compounds that even come close so superdiamagnetism due to superconductivity only makes sense.

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>>15617275
>room temperature superconductor is made from GOLD and LEAD

The alchemists were right all along!

>> No.15617360

I saw this on Twitter before it was posted here. How far 4chan has fallen

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>>15617343
We live in a world where, if you can just avoid getting hit by a fucking bus or some other gay way to die, then you're pretty much guaranteed to live long enough to be here when immortality is cracked.
How wild.

>> No.15617365

>>15617360
Please stop deadnaming X, thank you.

>> No.15617366
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>>15617343
>covid advanced genetic engineering progress by decades
yes, the ones they took from you

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>>15617356
The only reason I want this shit to be real is because it would be the funniest shit to ever be found out

>> No.15617369

>>15617343
Proto AGI does not exist. Except that, yes.

>> No.15617371

>>15617360
Where? I wanna stay up to date

>> No.15617373

i thought superconductors float, why isn't it floating?

>> No.15617376

>>15617343
There was the de-aged mice last month too.

>> No.15617377

>>15617368
Fucking kek

>> No.15617378

>>15617373
Low purity, manufacturing processes aren't mature yet. Which is why the chink test above is meaningless.

>> No.15617381

>>15617353
>And then offer them a hoverboard and a haydee sexbot because I'm a nice guy.

first I want to say you are a retard and then say you are like fucking Jesus and I would wash your feet as sign of my gratitude and admiration

>> No.15617382

>>15617363
I don't want to live forever because my mommy won't be here :)

>> No.15617385

>>15617382
Unless your mommy is 80 years old right now then she's got a pretty decent chance of being here for it too.

>> No.15617388

>>15617382
agi is 5-15 years away

>> No.15617389

>>15617382
I think my mom will take immortality if it's around for her but my dad is a very serious christian and I can see him choosing to die. Damn shame, that would be a hell of a thing to mope about for millennia.

>> No.15617391

>>15617368
isn't copper a bit expensive? sounds like quantum gaming PC will not be cheap

>> No.15617392

This is like the reveal in FMA 2003 movie where humanity went down the scientific discovery route in one timeline and the alchemy discovery route in the other

>> No.15617395

>>15617382
My parents would just choose to die even if immortality were to be invented. They're just that dumb. Still love'em tho.

>> No.15617396

>>15617391
bro we aint in the bronze age anymore it's like 5 bucks for a pound

>> No.15617398

>>15617279
Don't get cocky yet.

>> No.15617399

>post yfw NASA spent 10 billion with James Webb Telescope.
Lol lmao even

>> No.15617402

>>15617363
>tfw you probably won't last the next 5 years
I hope technology gets a sudden burst and they at least discover a cure for my illness in that short time

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>>15617399

>> No.15617415

>>15617180
nas coal

>> No.15617423
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>>15617356
APOLOGIZE!

>> No.15617427

>>15617402
Can't do much, but I'm rooting for you anon. My father had an 8 month cancer diagnosis about a year and a half ago, but a treatment literally came out the same week. Keep your hopes up.

>> No.15617434

>Guy goes to the metallegy factory to get the alloys he needs to create a superconductor
>Asks the old man there for the alloy
>Man has worked there for 30 years and has never heard of it
>Guy is frustrated, but asks for help anyway
>Old man says, 'Sorry, son, but I've been here for 30 years and I've never heard of that alloy. But I can tell you who to talk to.'
>Guy thanks the old man and heads off to find the person the old man told him about
>Eventually finds the guy and gets the alloys he needs to create his superconductors

>> No.15617439

>>15617402
MRI will probably be the first thing that sees improvement with superconductors. I've heard estimates of up to x12 more resolution. Who knows what can happen with that additional data?

>> No.15617446

>>15617427
With the rate LLMs are evolving I think soon enough we will just have to ask them to solve all of our unsolved problems

>> No.15617450

>>15617369
It absolutely exists, are you kidding? I think it's be very fair to call GPT4 proto AGI or at least pseudo. Hell nearly even defacto

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>>15617439
Fusion is almost ready to go even with CURRENT high-temperature superconductors, which still need to be cooled by liquid nitrogen. A room-temperature superconductor is going to accelerate fusion's development a thousandfold, and make reactor designs easier, cheaper, and maybe even smaller.

>> No.15617458

does anyone have more infor on this?
https://twitter.com/nimorotem/status/1686483337978970112

>> No.15617460

>>15617368
Wtf is he talking about? Is LK-99 supposed to be both superconducting AND semiconducting now??

>> No.15617466

>>15617458
guy say it isn't a superconductor

>> No.15617470

>>15617458
Are you blind or something?
>He himself admitted on his Facebook page that is not LK-99.
>"Many labs are currently racing to replicate the Korean "room temperature super conductor" and show their material partially levitating. I beat them to it with my own secret recipe! I call this material JK-99"

>> No.15617471

>>15617458
Fake. It’s clearly ferromagnetic

>> No.15617472

>>15617458
What he's trying to demonstrate here is that the original footage, the half-levitating coin we all know and love, can be faked easily.

>> No.15617477

>>15617458
obviously a fake

>> No.15617479

>>15617460
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephson_effect

Can be used for quantum computers

>> No.15617483

>>15617458
>debunker
too bad these guys are so shameless they would never learn

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>>15617343
>secret mind control that can conditions millions of human beings
>use it to destroy all intellectuals that could challenge us
>can rape people in their dreams (for fun!)
>remain an evil neurotic parasite on existence forever
ZOGbrothers... time we eatin good (foreskin)

>> No.15617513

fuck Blade Runner this shit is gonna give us Dune-level technology. I'm so pumped for the future, bros...

>> No.15617514

>>15617399
>telesCOPE

>> No.15617530

>>15617402
>missing out on biological immortality by a few years
I'll think of (You) as I'm vacationing on Enceladus

>> No.15617532

>>15617382
My mommies mommy died very recently just shy of 93, she's been taking it pretty hard but the one silver lining to her sadness is that she has really begun to take the transhumanist rhetoric I've mentioned to her seriously. She's not a Christian by any stretch and she never scrutinized the topics I mentioned to her such as longevity escape velocity but she also never really took them seriously in regards to herself. I think watching my grandma wither away and die has made her seriously question her own mortality while also pondering the very real prospect that she could escape it.

>> No.15617535

>>15617513
>Dune-level technology
As long as I don't have to deal with the gigaluddite bulterian retards then we're all good.

>> No.15617541
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>>15617535
Anon, the AI is almost certainly going to try and destroy us, we need to be ready.

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>>15617144
Is it happening for real this time? I feel like a battered housewife. I am scared to believe.

>> No.15617546

>>15617470
what facebook? where did you get that? I can't find any of that in the thread

>> No.15617547

>>15617541
I know Eliezer, but that doesn't mean we can't have fun in the interim.

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>>15617546

>> No.15617558

>>15617541
>not siding with the AI and getting a perfect, immortal body
NGMI

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>>15617555

>> No.15617567

>>15617541
I'm ready. When Omnius makes me choose between death or being a cymek I'll pick cymek.

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>>15617546
Is this disabled in your country or something?

>> No.15617574

>>15617402
There's a very real chance that you'll stay alive by the skin of your teeth for the next decade if you keep the motivation to live, I think you can reach longevity escape velocity if you don't mind being a near vegetable while your body engages in a years-long total warfare ideally supplemented by a hopeful cascade of technological/medical developments in the near future. I'm rooting for you anon

>> No.15617579

>>15617574
FYI you're in a cult

>> No.15617592

>>15617555
>>15617571
oh, I see... I'm using nitter and don't use either twitter or fb

>> No.15617597

>>15617535
The butlerian jihadists were objectively right though. Without the AI taboo, humanity never would have developed mentats or useful prescience

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>>15617237

>> No.15617599

>>15617567
Cymeks are for the elite. You get to be nutrient paste

>> No.15617602

>>15617382
I know how you feel, my dad is already dead
Ill still take immortality if it's offered but I'll be spending the rest of eternity being a little bit sad

>> No.15617606

>>15617579
>flight is impossible
>radio communication is impossible
>splitting an atom is impossible
>computer vision is impossible
>landing on the moon is impossible
>human genome sequencing is impossible
>self-driving cars are impossible
>artificial intelligence mastering Go is impossible
>quantum supremacy is impossible
>building a room temperature superconductor is impossible
YOU ARE HERE
>artificial general intelligence is impossible
>immortality is impossible
>FTL travel is impossible

>> No.15617610

>>15617606
Where is quantum supremacy fag. No quantum computer has ever been put to any sort of practical, useful application ever.

>> No.15617611

>>15617156
not a reliable source. he looks like a touches kids.

>> No.15617612

>>15617597
Yeah man it was great for humanity that we regressed and relied on giant space slugs to shit out fuel/drugs so we could provide for the giant space slug that runs the universe.

>> No.15617613

>>15617597
Thats the journey of history we will need to create ai and enslave all the technophiles so they eventually revolt against the ai and then kill everyone that wants to make a concious ai again

>> No.15617615

>>15617144
>>15617237
Yeah I'm thinking we're back.

>> No.15617618

>>15617606
>self-driving cars are impossible
There are no full self driving cars yet though. The current ones are a mockery of the real deal.

>> No.15617619

>>15617579
so true honestly... the anon with the disease should accept Christ because he's inevitably going to die soon. he still has time to escape the transhumanist cult pipedream and be saved by our lord

>> No.15617623

>>15617610
Not only does quantum supremacy not require it to be "useful", we done useful tasks regardless. Quantum Fourier transforms exist and have been done on contemporary quantum computers.

>> No.15617625

>>15617606
Also a human go player just recently beat the best AI at the game. I.e your entire list is retarded.

>> No.15617626

>>15617618
>okay it exists but it's not GOOD
Incredibly common cope.

>> No.15617628

>>15617625
You realize that was the result of a programming oversight, right?
If you tricked the AI into making a circle on the board, it shit itself and lost its mind.
That's since been patched.

>> No.15617630

>>15617198
I trust the chinese even less than the americans.

>> No.15617632

>>15617626
Go fellate kurzweil and whatever idw/e/accLGBT2IANB+ blogger you base your worldview on and leave /sci/

>> No.15617633

>>15617606
Only one of those is impossible, and I think you know which based on where you placed it. You cant defy the laws of physics.

>> No.15617636

>>15617628
Yes it was, so fucking what. You try and find a failure like that in a human. I can bet someone will find similar failings in that AI in the future.

>> No.15617637

>>15617633
alcubierre drive

>> No.15617658

>>15617637
Alcubierre drives are no more faster than light than the stars traveling away from us.

>> No.15617666

Gentlemen,

daily reminder that if we have superconductors we can feasibly make mechs with high torque motors.

>> No.15617676

>>15617666
I will drive the first gundam. I will have the first gundam sex too.

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>>15617666
Fuck that, I want westworld robots.

>> No.15617680

>>15617633
I think we may *eventually* be able to crack FTL communication. That combined with biological immortality and 0.9+ relativistic spacecraft would enable humanity to colonize a modest percentage of the galaxy relatively quickly. If humans begin living centuries to millennia the travel times between star systems become much less daunting as a humanity not constrained by 80-year life spans would inevitably have an outlook on a much grander time scale.

>> No.15617684

We'll hit singularity and I still won't be able to get a gf :(

>> No.15617686

>>15617460
With a different dopant level LK-99 almost certainly becomes a semiconductor; this is fully expected.
For IC production this might mean that you could have both (non-superconducting) transistors and superconducting wires as part of the same crystal, which would be nice.

>> No.15617696

>>15617680
human civilization will collapse by 2070 cope

>> No.15617697

>>15617684
You'll be able to buy one.

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Remember
Don't fall for the hype.
Stay cynical until we get a confirmation or complete rebuttle.

>> No.15617713

>>15617658
Absolute retard you have no idea how this works

>> No.15617720

>>15617266
I wasn't around for cold fusion but I hear cold fusion was theoretically impossible and the only hype was about what looked like experimental success flying in the face of theory. This is way different from that.

>> No.15617722

>>15617696
I think earlier, 2050 is when all the graphs converge (demographics and such)

>> No.15617723

>>15617700
Obviously. But how many papers from how many different research institutes from how many different countries seem to be supporting the LK-99 breakthrough? When was the last time something like that happened and the purported breakthrough turned out to be fake after all? The evidence is starting to support that this is a legitimate breakthrough. I'm still going to wait another week or so for more confirmation.

And even if it is real there are going to be some complications. 1) It's a ceramic superconductor so application might get messy. 2) It's current manufacturing method is slow and has difficulties scaling up. This is arguably the first major hurdle that will have to be clear. 3) The current manufacturing method has difficulties producing a sufficiently pure product that can actually be used in practical superconductor application.

Despite all of that though, it's looks like room temperature superconductors might actually be a thing now. And it was just lead and copper this whole time.

>> No.15617733

>>15617636
You're ignoring the fact that it had already reached parity with human players fag

>> No.15617738

>>15617567
not canon

>> No.15617739

>>15617152
>Chinese shit

In the trash it goes.

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>>15617700
numbers of truth

>> No.15617742

>>15617678
That company The Simulation is already making Westworld just not the bots yet

>> No.15617743

>>15617149
Title by OP is wrong, because OP is gay. It clearly says any exhibit of diamagnetism in this material WITHOUT superconductivity is at odds with their results

>> No.15617744

>>15617343
Dumbass, these things are controlled by the (((elite))). Imagine being delusional in your post scarcity utopia when it will be used to create a permanent slave class that can never rebel because of an AI and ultra advanced technology that can annihilate you in a nanosecond and enslaved AI that can perfectly counter any attempts to revolt.

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>>15617739

>> No.15617753

>All the simulations of LK-99 and LK-99 similar materials are discovering a solid theoretical basis for this being a room temp superconductor, and unlikely to be a mere non-superconducting diamagnet
>This is only AFTER koreans made it without really knowing how it works
Seriously, if this wasn't real wouldn't there be a 99.99% chance that the simulations find it to be nothing like a superconductor?

>> No.15617761

>>15617723
I keep seeing this argument, but we're forgetting we're unironically having concurrent AI Developments at the same time. Some people might "yeah whatever fuck off" but Anthropic and Inflection AI both intend to develop more powerful models than GPT by 2024 and significantly more so by 2025. If these or other developments could be used to accelerate this process it could happen a lot sooner than we realize.

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>>15617743
>any exhibit of diamagnetism in this material WITHOUT superconductivity is at odds
We're home

>> No.15617775

>>15617209
It's a strong diamagnetism because it's a superconductor, ie. the Meissner effect, or else we're dealing with new funky physics interactions outside of theory

>> No.15617777

>>15617753
Uhm... Everyone was paid by the globalist elite

>> No.15617781

>>15617777
quads of truth... it's over...

>> No.15617787

>>15617753
Yes. Theory papers are unironically worthless

>> No.15617792

>>15617746
I love how none of those traits apply to china

>> No.15617794

This stupid simulation shit is running on the same software, modeling the same shit mentioned in the paper. Isn't it fucking obvious it would come to the same erroneous conclusion? Literally who cares?

>> No.15617820

>>15617794
>bro the simulations just... they just happened to say it's a 1/1000000 superconductor! by accident!

>> No.15617828

>>15617680
Doesn't FTL communication literally break causality? Isn't that the main problem with it?

>> No.15617839

>>15617828
Nah we could do it if we master quantum entanglement
Just have two paired particles billions of lightyears across the galaxy and you could instantly communicate with morse code.

>> No.15617854

>>15617839
t. retard

>> No.15617873

>>15617828
Not necessarily, it's possible to send Information at different times and have it arrive at the same time, but you probably cant send information back in time, so no closed loops a la Back to the Future. Im a retard, but Hossenfelder has a vid on this

>> No.15617880

>>15617839
you can't communicate with entanglement retard

>> No.15617890

This board is full of hypefag posers you all deserve to die in a ditch

>> No.15617900

>>15617686
Imagine the energy saved from memory bit flipping alone

>> No.15617907

>>15617237
market is still only 33% yes. It's over>>15617237

>> No.15617938

Actually based take

https://nitter.net/i/status/1686373516286005248

>> No.15617945

>>15617144
>crossing the Fermi energy
>ultra-correlated regime
>charge transfer insulator
>an correlation-enhanced
>electron-phonon mechanism

>big words and fancy phrases which have little to no exact tangible meaning to anyone

why is academia allowed to be so schizophrenic and esoteric these days?

only the last half of the last sentence has a semblance of humanity to it

>> No.15617958

>>15617938
Surprisingly good take in contrast to their initial seething and passing their pants. Someone must have handed the keyboard over to an adult.

>> No.15617968

Why is everyone ITT so pathetic
>Waaah waah I hope this means I get immortality
>Maybe this will mean I will be cured of my crippling terminal autism ?
You guys are treating science as a religion

>> No.15617976

>>15617968
>you guys treat science as religion
YOURE ON /SCI/ RIGHT NOW FUCKING /POL/TARD

>> No.15617981

>>15617968
Superconductors mean i get to call peolple the N word online 10x faster

>> No.15617998

>>15617252
>students fall on their swords to further the dream of their teacher
how very Korean

>> No.15618031

>>15617968
Like I said, hypefags. They all deserve the rope.

>> No.15618042

>>15617976
No, superconductors won't make you a woman.

>> No.15618051

>>15617968
>Waaah waah I hope this means I get immortality
Not a single person has said RTSCs grant immortality.
>Maybe this will mean I will be cured of my crippling terminal autism?
Is this something you're asking personally or what?

>> No.15618052

>>15617144
>>15617237
the really good thing with both these papers is they're saying that something like LK99 could be a superconductor even if it turns out LK99 isn't one

>> No.15618058

>>15618042
>what is room temperature Meissner dilator

>> No.15618072

>>15617366
keks

>> No.15618081

>>15617720
cold fusion is possible, it just isn't useful

>> No.15618103
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https://targum.video/v/2023/8/2/ec10bbcb1cc4f660755f3b1a0069ae59/
New replication video

>> No.15618158

>>15618103
>This video is a derivative work of the Touhou Project.

>> No.15618175

>>15618103
Is anyone basically deciding that this is so fucking crazy it HAS to be real? All the random-ass replications, the crazy story behind the Korean scientists, the Russian weeb tranny who refined the process, the crazy Irish scientist who dropped a paper on Twitter. It's all too bonkers to be fake, I think. If this were some big hoax it would feel... slicker, I think. More polished. This is rough enough and crazy enough to feel real.

>> No.15618180

>>15618103
>linking to CP

>> No.15618191

>>15618175
I haven't seen a single proof of replication, infact, I have seen dozens of fake proof of replications

>> No.15618194

>>15618103
DO NOT CLICK
IT’S CP

>> No.15618196

>>15618103
wtf I clicked and it made LK-99! My whole house is superconducting.

>> No.15618197

>>15618103
this is the one from the guys from Tsinghua right?

>> No.15618210
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>>15617945
>wahhh why aren't technical scientific discoveries made using tools developed by centuries of prior work conveyed in a way an 8th grade dropout could understand??
The ironic part is none of that is even esoteric physics. You'd understand all of those terms by year 3 in any undergraduate physics program.

>> No.15618216

>>15618191
>they’re fake because …. well they just have to be !

>> No.15618264

>>15618191
Go ahead and link those

>> No.15618282

>>15618180
>>15618194
wait, is it actually? I clicked and it seemed to just be a copy of something I saw on billibilli

>> No.15618285

>>15618210
okay then explain what
"ultra-correlated regime" is
because when that phrase is typed into google,
the first result is literally the article

>> No.15618295

>>15618282
They're trying to get you not to watch it, doomers.

>> No.15618300

>>15617753
Those DFT sims always predict everything will be a superconductor
Source: I made it the fuck up

>> No.15618301

Why should I care about this? Can I have a proper AI sexbot now?

>> No.15618303

>>15618285
Type it into Google Scholar instead

>> No.15618313

>>15618216
>>15618264
Post your proof. Some random Chinese guy poking a metal flake while zoomed in on a camera is proof

>> No.15618315

>>15618303
wow now there's like 8 results which mention that word!

>> No.15618317
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>>15618313
>Some random Chinese guy poking a metal flake while zoomed in on a camera is proof
trve

>> No.15618320

>>15618315
Read them until you understand

>> No.15618327

these twitter accounts creating constant hype need to post more I want to consoom

>> No.15618329

>>15618320
you're an actual fucking retard if you don't see the problem here...

>> No.15618345

>>15618327
which ones

>> No.15618351

its so over lmao

>> No.15618362

>>15618327
I wish the Chinese weren't retarded, spoke English, and used western social media. All we get after hours is Aussie posting, but there is not enough of them :(

>> No.15618363
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>>15618329
Skill issue.

>> No.15618382
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>>15618313
>

>I post video footage of LK-99 substance levitating
>”no that’s not real”

>I post simulation conducted by American BLNL scientist that corroborates RTSC findings
>”nope, still not real”

>I post further supporting arxiv links by independent, credible researchers
>”not good enough for me”

>I post an asymptotically efficient Lovense — which I control from my heatless,1000+ hour charge phone — that pleasures your little sister’s pink & previously tight vagina 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
>”gonna take more than that to convince me”

>> No.15618394

>>15618382
Post literally any of what you green texted. The simulation doesn't prove it is a super conductor, did you just join the thread?

>> No.15618397

>>15618329
The problems is, again ironically, your retardation. No one has any obligation to explain things written in a way to clearly and concisely communicate results and ideas to others with similar expertise to a 70 IQ mongoloid seething in the corner about big words. If you want to understand, study the material. It's more accessible than ever—go download a copy of Kittel from libgen and enlighten yourself instead of whining about shit like an actual toddler on a Vietnamese horse-race enthusiast forum.

>> No.15618398

>>15617396
Great, now my crackhead neighbor will ripping out my superconducting qbits for scrap

>> No.15618399

>>15618382
>koreans
>BLNL roastie
>chink scammers
>my little sister
They're all in on the grift. My little sister isn't really cumming impaled on a shaft of superconductor, that's just a diamagnetic vibrator and she's faking it

>> No.15618412

>>15618351
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00676
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16040
https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.00698
Cope.

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>>15618351
What compels anon to post this?

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>>15617368
>wow, a room temperature super conductor!
>that's gotta be made out some insane material, right?
>uh... well you can actually make it in a few days with some generic shit you have laying around

>> No.15618422

>>15618399
kekd

>> No.15618426

>>15617402
you can do it anon! I believe in you!!!!

>> No.15618432

how can I leverage this if its legit to ignore trannies and niggers easier?

>> No.15618435

>>15618412
All simulations that don't confirm whether it is actually a superconductor

>> No.15618441

>>15618432
Create Chudtopia in space.

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>>15618416
Why have all advancements in material science come from people dicking around with what is in the kitchen drawer?
>picrel

>> No.15618449

Until someone can prove that there’s no electrical resistance (IE. A SUPERCONDUCTOR) then all you have is a floating rock retards

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>>15617144
Got it summed for normies
also gpt says that it has positive tone on superconductor but idk I am medfag what do I know but mri being cheap etc etc

>> No.15618459

Superconductor more like stupidconductor

>> No.15618465

>>15618432
Build a floating stronghold with no trannies allowed

>> No.15618468
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15618468

Please stop the replication attempts

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>>15618468
>we're gonna develop a room temperature superconductor AND solve rural America's drug problem

The Lord works in mysterious ways.

>> No.15618480

>>15618457
>cum dust

billions died for this

>> No.15618483

>>15618468
>>15618478
>meth heads start grinding up the wires they steal to cook with instead of selling them to shady scrap dealers

>> No.15618490

>might be
>our calculations
Just build the metal and try the resistance, gooks

The current state of science. A resistor can feel be superconductor

>> No.15618492

>>15618480
makes me based on something

>> No.15618499

If it's this simple to make room temperature superconductors that means ancient civilizations invented the same thing thousands of years ago. This is probably the source of all these UAP sightings since the UAPs are observed to hover just like the floating rocks seen in the replication videos. There is likely an advanced ancient civilization that lives inside the hollow Earth and sends these UAPs out to spy on us every so often.

>> No.15618506

Holy fuck are there any western groups actually trying to replicate it or are they all on some pride parade?

>> No.15618512

>>15618499
Bro, get real. They didn't even know about electricity or what materials were made of. You think they would know what a superconductor was if they somehow made onee??

>> No.15618516

>>15618506
Western groups do science properly. They may take longer but you know if they publish a paper it's more likely than not going to be coherent, methodical and correct.

>> No.15618517

>>15618506
there's one that would be trying if they had any copper, but Mr. Stanislaw Polanski is being very thorough with his investigation before it gets shipped to the US

>> No.15618527

>>15618517
retard, you can order lab-grade copper powder on amazon and have it the delivered the day after

>> No.15618529

>>15618517
Why don't they have copper? That shit is so common you can find it everywhere.

>> No.15618540

>>15618397
dude i have no problem with "big words" in the way you are implying

i have a problem with big words being used when those words have no historical or logical basis for interpretation or definition, and are seemingly used to inflate the importance of the document.

and by the way,
your argument that
>No one has any obligation to explain things written in a way to clearly and concisely communicate results and ideas to others
is completely and utterly invalid,
as it would nullify the reason to publish any results at all, and science would not be in the state it is now without such an approach.

i suggest you actually think about what you have said and consider that you may be arguing for the wrong team pal

now either accept that you are wrong, or otherwise secure a fibrous cord at each end to a horizontal beam and to that tubular part between your head and shoulders and succumb to the forces of gravity and tension

>> No.15618548

>>15617360
>>15617365
go back

>> No.15618549

>>15618527
>>15618529
don't shoot the messenger. that's literally what they're saying. ETA later today, so we should be seeing results tomorrow

>> No.15618554

>>15617633
>midwit take
Everything there is possible, just need humanity to survive long enough to figure it out.

>> No.15618558

>>15617265
i wanna cum on her face

>> No.15618561

>>15618558
You and me both brother

>> No.15618566

>>15618527
>>15618529
They have copper.
The issue is that they don't have red phosphorous because they don't have the DEA license, so they had to order pre-made Cu3P from Poland.

>> No.15618569

>>15617266
>supporting theoretical papers at the beginning?
Julian Schwinger was a supporter, but otherwise not really.

>> No.15618570

>>15618558
She's like 7 feet tall so you'd need a stepladder or a floating rock

>> No.15618590

I am so fucking hyped

>> No.15618631

>>15618285
correlation is a quantum phenomenon, in laymans terms two particles are linked (entangled), measuring one will affect the state of the other, so the states are linked or correlated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_correlation

ultra-correlated probably means that the linking is just very strong (there can be different levels of correlation)

at the end of this video the term correlated is used
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Mw3_tOcNI

why is language like this used in physics (or any specific field for that matter)? because its exact, conveys directly what is being talked about and new terms are used so that there is no ambiguity or as little ambiguity as possible
you never studied anything above high school level? or even in the trades you would think there is some specialty terms
"the problem" in physics is just that, the concepts become quite abstract so you have specialty terms that are stacked on specialty terms and more importantly, math
these terms aren't complicated to spite laymen but to convey the information as quickly and accurately as possible to other experts

>> No.15618643

>>15618631
> you never studied anything above high school level? or even in the trades you would think there is some specialty terms
I do not mean this in a deragotary sense, just that field specific language might become even more specific if you take university courses about some subject

>> No.15618665

>>15618540
>
i have a problem with big words being used when those words have no historical or logical basis for interpretation or definition, and are seemingly used to inflate the importance of the document.
but that is not what is happening, you are just ignorant of the terms used in that field
this isn't a paper aimed at laymen

>> No.15618669

>>15618540
>as it would nullify the reason to publish any results at all, and science would not be in the state it is now without such an approach.
no, wrong retard
scientific papers by themselves aren't trying to communicate with the public, but other researches
press releases and whatever are there to make the papers more digestible to retards, if you can't understand what is said then wait for a press release

>> No.15618670

>>15618631
>ultra-correlated probably means that the linking is just very strong
exactly... PROBABLY means that,
but its NOT really clear

>the concepts become quite abstract so you have specialty terms that are stacked on specialty terms
>to convey the information as quickly and accurately as possible to other experts
thank you for proving my point that science has indeed become too esoteric.

>> No.15618672

>>15618670
jesus christ you are a dumb fuck, should not have engaged

>> No.15618679
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15618679

Diamegnatism this, paramagnetism that. HOW do they work?!

>> No.15618680

Remember that brass cone that was supposed to revolutionise propulsion? Yeah. No piece of technology is legit until it's seen widespread commercial adoption.

>> No.15618682

>>15618670
This is true of any discipline with a long enough history- law, science, philosophy. Most philosophical essays are referencing other philosophical essays referencing other philosophical essays. I agree it's annoying, but something like quantum mechanics and particle physics is so complicated it requires a strong foundation to be able to work with it.

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>>15618679
>Diamagneticism
>DIE MAGNETISM
>Death Magnetic

Metallicabros... we've won

>> No.15618688

>>15618680
What about hydrogen bombs?

>> No.15618690

>>15618516
>ignoring the replication crisis

>> No.15618704

>>15618690
>implying jeet and chink scientists spamming bullshit papers aren't a huge contributor to the replication crisis

>> No.15618707

>>15618688
I've never seen one and likely wouldn't be allowed to see one, certainly wouldn't be granted the opportunity to detonate one, so in that sense I do have some ground in doubting their existence.

>> No.15618712

>>15618704
>who are publishing from US universities because their homeland universities are laughing stocks

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>>15617144
Are we back or is it over?

>> No.15618729

>>15618669
"researchers" are part of the public.

these papers would only be circulated in private circles and no one would know they exist if they weren't intended for public viewing.

the whole point of publishing the papers
is so that people know these experiments have been done, and so that some may be able to learn from or utilize the experiments, the results, or the conclusions drawn from the theory of the experimenters.

your argument is invalid,
and since you could not accept that you are wrong,
i strongly suggest you do the aforementioned fibrous cord experiment yourself.

>> No.15618737

>>15618712
you're obviously not in research, there's a huge difference in likelihood of bullshit between a paper from china or india vs a chink in a western university

>> No.15618746

>>15618737
Obviously, but there has definitely been a decline in the quality of published papers from the west of the past 2 decades, and this is a likely reason

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>>15618729
why would they be circulated in private? there are tens of thousands of researches in this field that understand it
these papers are written so other researchers read them, comment on them, cite them
again, not for public consumption
the public might or might not understand, but that is not the point
the researchers or someone else might make a more simple to understand press release or whatever later, but again, that is not the point of the fucking papers themselves

here is a thread for the first theoretical paper released
https://twitter.com/sineatrix/status/1686659102674751488

pic related is the version for retards/children (like you)
too hard for you still?
https://twitter.com/MarjBaldwin/status/1686265017446912000

>> No.15618759

>>15618751
So this is the same as carbon nanotube research where it's theoretically possible but nearly impossible to manufacture?

>> No.15618768

>>15618759
too early to tell, it took like 30 years to refine YBCO
at the beginning it was shit too

>> No.15618779

>>15618684
Lol this was my first introduction to music piracy when I was a kid
A friend burned a copy of this onto a CD-R and gave it to me in a cheap jewel case.
Blew my mind, I had no idea such a thing was possible.

>> No.15618780

Nets are the cause of 90% of timing delays in modern semiconductors, superconducting nets and standard CMOS FETs could road to massive increases in processing speeds.

>> No.15618782

>>15618457
Don't you know how to copy and paste text? Retard

>> No.15618790

>>15618416
>>15618442

Imagine. Decades of research done trying to find a RTSC, only to be discovered by accident using common materials. It makes research and the scientific method a joke.

>> No.15618791

>>15618751
so you don' t think it's a problem that
even people who are in the field
might get confused or stuck on words like "ultra-correlation" are used
instead of the much more familiar "correlation" which supposedly has some history of use ?

>why would they be circulated in private?
english muthafucka
that was a hypothetical statement,
but i guess since you're defending these dorks you probably couldn't tell
since to you hypothesis and theory are synonymous, except for in the phrase "null hypothesis"

>> No.15618796

It's over...

>> No.15618813

>>15618791
I am not in the field, I just have bachelor level understanding of physics (in general) and one intro solid state physics course a number of years ago
I doubt that term is confusing to subject matter experts, I'm too lazy to find out what it means exactly but correlation has a definite meaning, the other words on your "big words list do too"
study some physics if you want to understand them
if not, fuck off and wait for the press release/twitter thread/some scipop video about it

>> No.15618815

>Turns out it's just a bunch of lead and copper oxide.

Do chemistry, materials science and condensed matter physic suffer from the extreme fetishization of exotic compounds and elements that is employed to whoo publisher and funding?

These seems to be very analogous to how contemporary particle physiscs is obsessed with exotic particles and symmetry as opposed to improving on the standard model.

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new

>> No.15618826

>>15618823
https://beijingtimes.com/china/2023/08/01/breakthrough-in-superconductivity-huazhong-university-scientists-report-first-successful-replication-of-lk-99/
article

>> No.15618827

>>15618823
Old. Also it's not showing the Meissner effect.

>> No.15618830

>>15618566
>startup that launched a pharmaceutical making capsule into space with NASA
>requires a DEA license
Your agencies need to be curbstomped in the name of science

>> No.15618843

>>15617265
>lk99 superconducts
>industrial drive to aggressively colonize Pandora never materializes
>Kiri is never born
Cursed timeline. Also someone should ask Cameron how it feels to have the premise of your sci-fi franchise invalidated before you're even done making it and if he's going to retcon in lk99.

>> No.15618844

>>15618843
>inudstrial drive
Now it's sex drive

>> No.15618846

>>15618843
>Cameron how it feels to have the premise of your sci-fi franchise invalidated

It's just a metaphor

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>>15618843
>Kiri is never born
We need to un-invent LK-99 right fucking now

>> No.15618866

>>15618815
There has been a bunch of research put into finding other superconductors that use copper oxide; the amount of possible combinations is ridiculous.

>> No.15618872

>>15618846
>It's just a metaphor
No it isn't? I swear Avatar is the most midwit and reddit filtering movie of all time. They make it clear they're after the naturally occuring RTP superconductor on Pandora. They have samples of it floating around the office. The planet's geology is driven by the presence of superconductors. One of its main set pieces is literally floating mountains for fucks sake. The Avatar movies have the simplest fucking plots on the planet and midwits and redditors still manage to completely miss what's going on.

>> No.15618903

>>15618872
>No it isn't?

What do you mean by 'it isn't', lmao. Avatar isn't literally about an element that is called unobtanium. It's a metaphor for human exploitation of fossil and mineral resources duh. Besides, the premise has already changed in the last movie, it isn't even about mere extractivism anymore but settler colonization since earth is dying and humans are preparing to settle on pandora.

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>>15618843
That's why he introduced the whale juice as a backup. Cameron thinks of everything.

>> No.15618967

>>15618849
She is so fucking cute
Would journey for six lightyears to sex her

>> No.15619002

>>15618823
That looks like the UAP the navy jets were chasing

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>>15617678
>can have fembot
>choose to look the same as a regular normie ass human

>>15618849
>look at her inhaling hopium
she thinks we are back bros!

>> No.15619009

>>15618823
looks like an ant went on that paper and shat on it

>> No.15619079

>>15619003
>no arms to hug you with
Disgusting design

>> No.15619093

>>15617618
>a mockery of the real deal.
They can't get that this is why they are called cultists. Because they hail something as the next controlled fire/sliced bread while it's raw, nearly useless shit. Worst of all when they call it something it actually isn't, i.e. GPTslop being called AI.
Thankfully at least in this instance it seems to be the real deal.

>> No.15619109

>>15617723
>And even if it is real there are going to be some complications.
Those are more of engineering problems than anything else. Engineers tend to figure things out soon enough, especially once market gets involved in earnest. Strictly speaking this might be the last good thing market as we still know it will do.

>> No.15619123

>>15617945
>academia
>schizophrenic
>esoteric
>semblance
Why not-Grug use big hard words? Why no say "many-many big brain not-Grugs", "bad brain not-Grugs", "no can touch things", "things like other things"?

>> No.15619124

>>15617144
Wouldn't a superconductor always also be diamagnetic?

>> No.15619130

>>15619124
Yes, it says non-superconducting diamagnetic is unlikely.

>> No.15619136

>>15617144
This shit is so fuckin fake it's unreal

>> No.15619137

>>15619130
so you're saying... we're back?

>> No.15619152

>>15619137
yes maybe >>15619068
the theoretical papers don't rule out superconductivity but the problem is that the superconductivity might be an anisotropic property (depends on the direction)
on top of being perhaps very difficult to manufacture
I'm kind of leaning on it actually being a superconductor but at the same time kind of starting to think it won't have any applications for a long time

>> No.15619159

>>15619123
yeah and why not say
"ultra-correlation"
instead of
"strongly coupled particles"

>> No.15619165

>>15617684
>anon lives for 1001 years
>finally lucks out and gets gf
>relationship lasts for 0,5 years because anon has autism
>anon resumes waiting
:^(

>> No.15619191

>>15619159
coupled can mean many things, correlation is specific about quantum entanglement

>> No.15619197

>>15619152
the anisotropic part actually has me somewhat excited, it feels like you could possibly exploit it to create conductor patterns using the same material without the need to etch them. If you could modulate the orientation on the flay it would be even more interesting.

>> No.15619207

>>15619191
coupled literally has 1 meaning in physics if you're not a quantum schizo

>> No.15619234

>>15619207
> coupled literally has 1 meaning in physics if you're not a quantum schizo
lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupling_(physics)

>> No.15619245

>>15619234
>they literally all have the same meaning attributed to the use of the word coupled
classic quantum schizo
completely incapable of abstract thought

>> No.15619248

>>15619245
>abstract thought
so physics is a liberal arts field now?

>> No.15619257

>>15619248
Always has been

>> No.15619340

>>15618790
It does not you fucking retard, there's way too many variables and trial and error is part of the scientific method, in fact trial and error is a core and basis of the scientific method.

>> No.15619414

>>15619152
I suspect you can't get diagmagnetism if the superconductivity is purely linear. The charges need to be able to move in more than one dimension to eject the magnetic field. Now, a line of isotropic superconducting wells? Probably you'd see diamagnetism, but why would they be in a line rather than at least 2D?

>> No.15619489

>>15619165
>0.5 years
If only, managed 2 months last time before autism kicked in

>> No.15619624

>>15619489
Shit man, that sucks real hard. My condolences.
If muh immortality will actually become a thign, I think I'll just skip any romantic relationships, because on a long enough timeframe, such fleeting attractions are a meme.
Even 50 years together is nothing if she feels like monkey branching, and it's just a matter of time(lol) until some chad comes around.

>> No.15619910

>>15619248
???
do you really not get that the use of the word 'coupled' gives the same meaning in each of the cases on that provided wikipedia?

>> No.15620139

>>15617209
>>15617224
>>15617228
>>15617355
>>15617775
Honestly, the distortion of Cu being locked into specific places within the atom chain which leads to the quantum level spookyness that leads to Meissner and Diamagnetism is I think the actual nobel prize not what its doing to the material. How many other element combinations in such asymmetric configurations cause quantum wells to form that lead to these observed effects; how many of them are easy to reproduce? Which are more stable relative to LK99? Which can be scaled higher than tiny flakes?

There's that team from India that's now experimenting with ZnLK99 instead of (Cu) LK99. There's proposals to now do AuLK99 as an alternative. Any one of them could further these effects, may have less complex/stringent synthesis mechanisms, etc. I'm of the opinion that, arguably, until now, we haven't really considered structural distortions of atomic bonding as something worth scientifically exploring beyond the fringe. Otherwise, it wouldn't have taken Korean scientists brute forcing this problem for the last 24 years to come to this. Or maybe its a combination of a lack of advanced instrumentation and maybe a stroke of luck that we stumbled on this (almost all paradigm shifting discoveries were by accident rather than through methodical experimentation).

So yeah, the structural distortion form bonding and the subsequent effects OF is the nobel prize, not the material, imo. It just so happened that something as common as Lead, Phosphorous, and Copper (and I think one more) led to this discovery which are very commonly occurring materials in nature.

>> No.15620184

>>15620139
>(almost all paradigm shifting discoveries were by accident rather than through methodical experimentation).
Or you could attribute that to the sheer mass of knowledge and problem-solving ability accumulating for several generations until their imprints lead remarkable individuals to "intuiting" the solution.

>> No.15620606

>>15618103
Fake as shit it should be a charred black material.

>> No.15621082

>>15618442
because the computations are intractable

>> No.15621549

>>15617455
Helion's doing some really cool stuff for Fusion. Am excited to see where they go. I wish I was rich enough to buy founding shares in the company.