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>academia with billions of dollars of funding
>2 guys in a basement from a no name university

What does this say about current R&D state

>> No.15614836

>>15614580
I made this thread the hour it was revealed and got one reply. I now curse you to the same fate, in the name of academic elitism.

>> No.15614842

>>15614580
>no link
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/19/1188828810/stanford-university-president-resigns

>> No.15614895

>>15614580
Gotta love that he just doubles down on lying and everyone just pretends he's not a fraud.

>> No.15614909

>>15614580
>2 guys in a basement from a no name university
wtf are you talking about?
>>15614836
This thread has been posted at least 3 times now, maybe more. Midwits are obsessed with this news because it "le deboonks" academic institutions that they were never able to attend. Schadenfreude, kind of a smug glee where they feel the vengeance has been meted out by God to those that rejected them. "The grapes are sour" type of thinking. "I never wanted to go there to begin with, all their research is fake anyways". An appropriate excuse for their failure.

Nevertheless, I curse you as well for telling these these retards about this news. 4channers can't read beyond headlines and they would've never even found out that this happened had you not told them.

>> No.15614934

>>15614909
butthurt

>> No.15614943

I didm't know presidents of universities did research. You would think that he's busy doing other things. Do other presidents do research or teaching too?

>> No.15614949

>>15614909
It's retarded because when you become a scientist, you do not give a shit about how presitigious these schools are. People think only losers cheat, but really the people who cheat most are those with the most to gain. That's why it's not quite as surprising that dude is a fraud as people think. Most scientists at most universities are just content doing their thing, not worrying about getting some huge salary at the most presitigious school.

>> No.15614956

>>15614943
The research that got deboonked was like 20 years old. You have to do research to make a name for yourself and get professorships, etc, so despite the fact he probably isn't really doing research anymore, he profited off his fraud.

>> No.15615209

>>15614956
Why is his work being randomly scrutinized now if it was fine for 20 years?

>> No.15615267

>>15615209
Improvement in detection techniques and digitization catches a lot of the older frauds.

Faked numerical data in particular has to be manufactured in a particular way to not trip current detection methods for extremely unlikely data. Some midwit making shit up wouldn't even realize that his fraud is mathematically provable to be fake.

>> No.15616053

>>15614580
whats what /sci/zos tried to tell you the whole time, its taxpayer scam

>> No.15616102

>>15614949
This, I lied and forged my way into unimaginably good positions in life (Though I wouldn't lie for research, that's just stupid. Mostly experiences, certifications, education and stuff like that). Those at the top will likely have done this type of stuff more. That's why they are at the Top to begin with. Moralfags lose in the real world in the end. If you wanna win in life, you will have to lie A LOT.

>> No.15616294

>>15614956
I'm not sure you can make the argument that he knowingly profited off of these lies. Once he was a professor he had his slaves (grad students) performing all of the research. They are incentivized to publish and get out. Is he really supposed to assume his students are being fraudulent and altering data? How will he find the time to scrutinize manuscripts? The peer reviewers don't have the resources to do this either. The real problem is that published research is based on trust but the incentives are not aligned with this model.

>> No.15617897

>>15614580
>federal government money spent trying to invent the airplane: about $15 million
>airplanes invented: 0

>wright brothers usage of their own money to invent the airplane: about $80
>airplanes invented: 1
its also worth noting that the wrights were only at it a couple years before they had success, the federal government's project started in 1890

the reason why this pattern of event repeats itself over and over again is all outlined in thorstein veblen's 1899 classic "the theory of the leisure class: a study of institutions"
the tl;dr version is that status symbol jobs are attained by purchasing them rather via earning them meritoriously

>> No.15618572

>>15616102
Hm, good advice.

>> No.15620227

>>15618572
It isn't, success is achieved by having a rich daddy who can buy you a sinecure

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>>15614909
I'm not a Stanford, and I don't imagine you are, but I am at a pretty highly ranked state university.

Anyway, I think woke leftists like yourself are obsessed with "consp;iracy theories" and "disinformation", which is why you guys spent the last three years falsely claiming, without evidence, that the Lab Leak Hypothesis was a crazy, deranged conspiracy theory that was only being promoted by crazy far-right anti-Chinese racists and Russian agents trying to spread disinformation on the internet. It turns out you people were completely wrong, that COVID probably did come from a lab, and there was never any secret campaign by American white nationalist groups or the Russian government to spread the Lab Leak Hypothesis, as you people have hysterically asserted over and over again, despite never having any concrete evidence for this crazy ass fucking narrative.

>> No.15623137

>>15620477
>I don't imagine you are
I am somewhere much much better

The rest of your post is paranoid schizophrenia word-vomit. I suggest you get that checked out at the nearest hospital.

>>15614949
Agreed.

>> No.15623435

>>15614580
If the president of Stanford was falsifying data then that means that all his underlings were probably doing the same thing too. Birds of a feather flock together

>> No.15623473

>>15614580
Best part is the dude got away with it all. He's STILL working at stanford

>> No.15623754

>>15614842
The west is doomed, its academia produces nothing but frauds, parasites, and globohomo activists.

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>>15614580
Nothing that high powered guns and chainsaws can't solve.

>> No.15623785

>>15614580
the answer is the third fourth and fifth word of your post

>> No.15624876

>>15614580
That it is corrupt, bloated, and inefficient.

>> No.15625069

>>15614580
it says it's pretty good if modern algorithms are able to detect falsified research numbers from 20 years ago.

>> No.15625612

>>15623435
the replication crisis isn't something that just happens by accident

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>>15623137
>I am somewhere much much better
>t. woke leftist high school dropout larping as a college student doesn't realize that by most metrix Stanford is literally the best university in the world

You remind me of this woke plebbitor I saw sperging out the other day in a thread about Kaczynski because he went to University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, which is literally one of the top programs in the world, but the woke leftist was sperging out about how it was supposedly a shitty state school and how Kaczynski was just a schizo. Woke shitlibs truly are some of the most misinformed people on earth. You're just one more example.

You're either a total fucking giga retard or a troll if you unironically think you university is "much better" the Stanford. The only universities that can even compete are like John Hopkins and MIT and the Ivy Leagues.

By the way, you can keep labeling anyone who disagrees with you a poltard and an incel and a schizo and all the other typical iinsults that mindless NPCs like yourself repeatedly spit out, but that doesn't change reality. Even the woke shitlib news outlets at this point have acknowledged that the Lab Leak Hypothesis is not some crazy conspiracy theory. Pdf related

>> No.15625805

>>15625668
>The only universities that can even compete are like John Hopkins and MIT and the Ivy Leagues.
Yes, I'm somewhere in there.

Otherwise, the rest of your post is again just Schizophrenia. And it is actually amusing that you are completely oblivious to your mental illness kek. Think about who you are even talking to. You are not talking to me right now, you are talking to whatever you have hallucinated, what your mind has conjured up. Look back at my posts. But I doubt you'll get it. Funny.

>> No.15625874

>>15614580
R&D is done by private corporations with invested money or government contracts. What universities do is mostly useless, especially on its own.

>> No.15626728

>>15625668
He could have helped humanity to go forward, instead the CIA fucked him so hard they turned him into a terrorist. All of them should be executed immediately for the good of mankind.

>> No.15626837

>>15625805
>Unironically larping as an MIT/Ivy League student just for clout on a anonymous Internet forum

I think if anyone has mental health problems its you.

Even if you're not larping (which you are) it would be pretty cringe to go online and make a big deal out of the school you go to. If you're going to make a big deal out of the school you go to, and use that as a talking point and you attempt to demean people on the basis of the school they did or didn't go to, then you should be willing to provide evidence of your enrollment status.

>> No.15626968

>>15626837
>If I lie about you, don't correct me
I didn't bring up my instituitional affiliation, you did. I have no reason to bolster my own Ideas by legitimizing them with my credentials (a midwit trait to do so) or to discredit someone based on the college they go to when I can do it without mentioning their credentials. But you certainly felt the need to do so, that too on an anonymous board. So I simply retorted with a correction.

I neither made a big deal out of my own college, nor demeaned anyone for the college the go to. I suggest you re-read my original post.

Again, you're not talking to me, you're talking to your own hallucinations. But you did confuse me just now. I did say schizophrenia for you before, and that is still very likely, but you could also just simply have severely deficient reading comprehension.

>> No.15627541

>>15616102
>experiences
Makes sense, unfalsifiable
>certifications, education
How? All it takes is a background check to disprove

>> No.15627618

There should be an /ac/ - Academia board to discuss issues related to universities and education.

>> No.15627645

>>15627618
There should be a lot of boards. But 4chan moves at snail's pace, as I guess it should.

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>>15626968
>i go to an ivy
>won't prove it (not because i can't but because i don't want to)
>anything you say that i don't have a good response to is schizo

>> No.15628219

>>15628094
>Doxx yourself
No thanks. You might have nothing to lose in life, but I do.

>> No.15628559

>>15628219
just block out your name, retardo
you won't though, you'll just keep coming up with pathetic excuses like in all your previous posts
sad!

>> No.15628712

>>15628559
I have no inclination to even attempt to prove my affiliation to any institute on an anonymous board. You really think your street tricks would work in this scenario and rile me up so that I end up posting my school ID out of fury? I don't care about what you say. It doesn't matter, I have no emotions involved in this, I'm just here having fun. My point stands whether or not I am at any of the colleges you mentioned. Why is it so important to you that I prove it? Oh right, so you can claim that my point is wrong because I didn't do as you willed and posted my information online. Perhaps because you can't counter it head on. Good trick anon, but I am not going to 'do what thou willest.' The truth of my post will continue to haunt you no matter how much you cope and employ cheap pilpuls.

>> No.15630825

>>15628712
holy shit you're such a self-righteous pseud
>using tricks to avoid responding to my points
like you did in all your replies to the other anon by calling him schizo? you know, the thing i accused you of just earlier in this thread and you conveniently didn't respond to?
get over yourself lmao, this is pathetic

>> No.15630890

>>15614909
You are a worthless parasite that attended an Ivy league university which is "ivy" solely due to the reason that somewhen in the 20th century a few geniuses (YOU ARE NOT A GENIUS) attended them.

Hence the prestige and the title of "ivy" league.

You will never be a genius.

>> No.15631030

>>15628712
>>15626968
If the school you attend is irrelevant (whicch I mostly agree with), then why did you bring it up in the first place? You claimed that you go to a university which is "much much better" than Stanford. You seemed to think that was relevant to the conversation. You also keep throwing around the word schizo, but saying you go to a university much better then Stanford sounds like something a schizo would say, and I mean an actual literal schizo. It sounds like something I would hear a drunk homeless guy rambling about at a bus stop.

Look anon, nobody gives a shit about what school you go to. Your posts are cringe as fuck, and they're getting cringier as this conversation progresses. Just do yourself a favor and take the L. Leave this thread, leave this board, and go back to your containment website.

>> No.15631244

>>15630825
>>15630890
>>15631030
Still not a single disagreement with my point, all ramblings about what school I went to. Feels good to be right

>then why did you bring it up in the first place?
Go back and read the thread again. And see who brought it up. Hint: Wasn't me.

>> No.15631379

>>15631244
i'm sorry you were bullied so hard that you developed this defense mechanism
that being said, please leave the board forever to avoid being bullied further, because your posts are just awful

>> No.15631963

>>15630890
>somewhen in the 20th century a few geniuses attended them.
name one, nobody smart went to an ivy as a student, ivy's use rich kids' daddys' money to buy famous professors. hunter biden is the most famous ivy league graduate

>> No.15632053

>>15625668
Pretty much any University of <State> will be a top school in at least a couple areas, so all Ivy League masturbation is just stupid. It's ironic how leftists care about prestige more than quality, when their raison d'etre is the abolition of hierarchy.

>> No.15632145

>>15632053
libs are all about ethos rather than pathos or logos, so it checks out
when a verified blue-checkmark tells them to be bigots, they're always ready
"trust the experts," right?

>> No.15632456

>>15631379
lmao projecting. You've been malding the entire thread. My posts are great because they induce maximum seethe among schizos. I love it when that happens, call it a bit a Schadenfreude.

>> No.15632581

>>15614580
Bunk

>> No.15632616

>>15632456
>you've been malding
multiple anons have been replying to you, and every time you write a long-winded rant about your feelings
i think you're the one projecting, champ

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>>15632616
I realize that. Which makes it even funnier kek. How the Hyenas gang up on the Lion. Having a lot of people rambling the same nonsense doesn't make it right anon. Not a single one of you has said anything except for attacking my Instituitional affiliations or schizo strawmen. Nobody has addressed my thesis at all. Why? Because it is correct, and you subconsciously realize it, yet it makes you seethe. So you must look for tangents to divert attention from it's correctness so that you are not forced to address your cognitive dissonance. Hilarious.

>> No.15632679

>>15632669
More like a cockroach in a room full of people trying to eradicate it.

Same reasoning, except in this case you are the cockroach rather than a lion

>> No.15632721

>>15632679
If a whole room full of "people" fail to eradicate the cockroach, then they are worse than a cockroach and not suitable to be called "people". Conversely, I have nothing but praise for the cockroach, causing the so-called "people" to seethe but being able to do nothing about it. Hence, I question the sanity of the observer in this case. He has likely mixed up the identity of the room full of Cockroaches and the person due to his debilitating Schizophrenia ;)

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>>15631244
>>15632669
You're posts are cringe and gay.

I have a PhD in mathematics from Harvard, and I'm currently doing a postdoc in the physics department at MIT doing research on the Representation theory of Lie Groups. Suck my dick.

>> No.15632751

>>15632724
I don't care if you're the president of the country. You're a seething faggot nonetheless. My point continues to remain untouched as midwits like yourself discuss instituitional affiliations and credentials instead of the argument's thesis.

>> No.15633007

>>15632751
Bruh your whole argument seems to be that most of the popular discourse around the replication crisis is motivated by schadenfreude on the part of chuds who just enjoy seeing these "woke" academics get btfod. There is probably a small component of that, but if you think that is the main driver behind the interest in this issue, then you're a retard.

>> No.15633038

>>15632669
every time someone said something you couldn't refute, you just called it schizo
see again the comment about defense mechnaisms

>> No.15633130

>>15633007
>but if you think that is the main driver behind the interest in this issue, then you're a retard.
Any specific reasoning you have there except for your emotions? methinks not

On the pyramid of disagreement, you have moved up to identifying the main thesis and contradicting the claim. Now all you need to do is offer a counter-argument. Which I have faith in your ability to do.
>>15633038
>said something you couldn't refute
You mean said irrelevant mumbo jumbo? Guy wrote a dissertation on covid vaccination. But I dare you to find a mention of covid or vaccines anywhere in my posts. That was most certainly Schizophrenia, and I am not willing to engage with it.

>> No.15633178

>>15625668
>You're either a total fucking giga retard or a troll if you unironically think you university is "much better" the Stanford. The only universities that can even compete are like John Hopkins and MIT and the Ivy Leagues.
Every university is full of gay paper competitive faggots. Certain individuals and small areas in certain universities are better across the board. The most advancement can be made in a small team of people with a very good product ready to make or very close to not theoretical. it doesn't matter which university anymore cause internet = funding and connections.
The higher you go the more rich or diversity assholes are in greater numbers and only server as advertisement to a failing institution

>> No.15633194

>>15614909
Shut the fuck up you faggot virgin nerd.

>> No.15633327

>>15630890
No genius ever attended an ivy league. The only exception being that rural math genius from 1940. Otherwise it was rich kids playground for hot women and an opportunity to LARP as a studious student.

>> No.15633837

>>15633130
ok, so you admit you weren't able to argue with people and instead called them schizo
you are such a whiny little baby lol, infinite excuses but zero arguments

>> No.15633888

>>15633837
>ok, so you admit you weren't able to argue with schizos
No, I admit that I deliberately didn't argue with schizos. There's a difference.

>> No.15633992

>>15633888
>i could, i just don't want to!
this excuse wasn't convincing in gradeschool and it still isn't now
would be so much easier to admit you're wrong, or even just stop posting
but yeah keep doubling down, i'm sure someone will buy it eventually lol

>> No.15634026

>>15627541
>>certifications, education
>How? All it takes is a background check to disprove
not him, but I've had people tell me to lie on entry level stuff and I've seen multiple people say they started their careers like that.
as in
job app by hr retards requires X, Y cert Z course.
State on resume you have them even though you don't.
do this 100 times.
50 filter you, 50 dont.
you get some job.
that job you're liable to lose if they find out.
but if in a year you go to a different company, then you state your current job doing X Y Z.
the original lie about X Y Z experience is no longer necessary.
meanwhile the guy who was honest didnt get the original job, now he's locked out of X Y Z field.

>> No.15634029

>>15633992
>Why don't you just waste your time arguing with Schizos? just admit you can't beat him
Fine I admit it. I don't think I can walk into a psych ward and argue with schizos to convince them their hallucinations are wrong. So the schizo always wins in the end. And the sane person always loses. You happy now?

>> No.15634037

>>15634029
>more excuses
yes, i'm having a great time laughing at your posts

>> No.15634062

>>15632751
>seething faggot
Go back to your containment board, incel.
Nobody wants to read your retard incel tier homophobic comments.

>> No.15634075

>>15634037
I'm glad I did good. If you can't benefit from understanding them, at least you can benefit from laughing at them.

>> No.15634129

>>15634075
i think we all understand you just fine
you're a huge faggot who always thinks he's right and will just whine and divert attention from the point if anyone questions his shitty takes
you think everyone else is the problem when it's just you, so you revert to playing the victim when you can't win an argument (like you're doing now)

>> No.15634148

>>15634129
>i think we all understand you just fine
You sure did buddy ;)
>you revert to playing the victim when you can't win an argument (like you're doing now)
Kek projecting. But I already admitted defeat. I said that can't convince a schizo that his hallucinations are not real. Only meds can do that. So there, I admitted that I can't win arguments against the mentally ill. What more do you want? lol

>> No.15634712

>>15627541
I'm him and this guy is right. >>15634026 your main bars in life are entry. Once you enter, it's easy pickings. You know the saying about Ivy leagues, "It's hard to get in, but it's easy to stay in". This applies to every profession, school whatever. Just lie your way into it first time, and you're good going forward. As for education and certifications, I obviously didn't mean lie about whole degrees. But smaller stuff. Maybe you're applying to Med school, just say you have a first Aid cert. or whatever. Are they going to check? Most likely not. But it embellishes you. Say you did a 1-month course at some college for idk intubation or something. They're likely not going to check. They might in rare cases, in which case you're fucked. But then you just apply somewhere else and hope they don't check. at least the first time, once you get in first time though, you're good after that. Then your experience speaks for itself and you don't need lies anymore. The first big job is the hardest to get. The first internship is the hardest to get. The first everything is hard. Then it just comes rolling over. And 90% of the times, they don't confirm your lies (unless of course you lie about something big, like having a masters, then they are likelier to check. So keep the lie small enough that it doesn't stand out, but big enough that it still gives you an edge over other applicants). In the professional scene, getting caught just means you now have to apply to another company. And again, you're probably not gonna get caught, they barely check. I've never ever been caught, even some quite big lies. They very rarely confirm. If you forge documents even to prove something (which I've done before), they will believe it without further confirmation. Obviously doesn't always work, but it's a good tactic nonetheless. High trust societies they say right? They just presume we're telling the truth. "who would be stupid enough to lie" Use that naivety to your advantage.

>> No.15636600

Once again, the chuds, schizos, incels, and rednecks were utterly btfo'd in this thread.

Will the schizos ever learn? I don't think so.

>> No.15637284

>>15614580
What kind of lies was the president of Standord circulating in the replication crisis journals?

>> No.15637555

grant seeking has ruined science.

>> No.15637642

>>15614895
Dude, do you know how academic research works?
You have a bunch of PhD students who do all the actual research and write the paper. If at all, the professor reads the finished paper once and recommends some corrections. In most cases, the professor's name is just added to the author list, even he he has never read the paper and has next to no knowledge about its topic.

>> No.15637743

>>15625805
I think you are just a fraud used to wave around your undeserved status who gets mad that it doesn't work on a fucking anonymous mongolian basket weaving board.

>> No.15637748

>>15636600
What about the neckbeards, they are HERE TOO

>> No.15638669

>>15637555
>gibes me dat moni fo free
>t. scientist
why are scientists so greedy?

>> No.15640237

>>15638669
Wasting money they didn't earn is a status symbol for scientists, thats how they keep score on who is the most important scientists, its not who can make the biggest and most important discovery, its who can flush the most of other people's money down the toilet for no good reason.

>> No.15640641

>>15632751
Its honestly exhausting engaging with uneducated people because you end up having to explain basic concepts to them instead of just getting to the point.

I could explain why you are wrong but is it really worth my time? Nah ill just engage with someone who is educated.

>> No.15640685

>>15614909
>academic institutions that they were never able to attend.
Should have pushed my fake disproof of the Pythagorean theorem a lot harder, I guess.
But then I grew out of being ten.

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>>15634029
You are a retard though, and you are incapable of arguing with your opponents in good faith, and it's also pretty clearly that you're a woke neoliberal, but you have repeatedly used the words "faggot" and "schizo" in this thread. You're not acting in good faith, and you can't even adhere to the norms and moral standards of your own ideology.

Anyway, you are a total retard if you think the only reason people care about the replication crisis is because they're "sour grapes" who are just upset because Stanford "rejected them", as you claimed in this post >>15614909. Many reasonable people are interested in the replication crisis, and it has actually become a very active area of research in academia (in fact, I'm doing a PhD on the topic), and is in fact one of the most active fields today in terms of both scholarly citation count and mainstream public exposure. Pdf related, for example, is a very well known and highly cited journal article discussing the replication crisis. It appear in one of the PLoS journals.

If you categorically reject the significance of the replication crisis and you think it's just a bunch of made up non-sense being pushed by the far-right in order to disparage the academic establishment then you yourself are just political and ideologically motivated as the people you criticize (arguably even more so), and you are actually objectively wrong, since the replication crisis is, as I have already pointed out, an active area of mainstream scholarly research. In fact, you could make a pretty good argument that it is even unethical for a working scientist or scholar to NOT be concerned about the replication crisis and other forms of systemic bias in their fields. If you're working in an academic field, then you have an ethical obligation to be mindful of the ways in which bias could be impacting your work.

>> No.15642402

I got into Tel Aviv university (I suppose it's kinda ivy but not really) still a top university by lying about my previous grades from a trashy open university.

Basically it's all prestige and status bullshit.

You can't make a scientist out of a monkey.

You will never be a genius, and you will never be a scientist just because you attend ivy, same applies to monkeys from bottom ladder universities

>> No.15642409

>>15642402
Oy vey. This Bait is great.

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>>15642402
>I got into Tel Aviv university (I suppose it's kinda ivy but not really) still a top university by lying about my previous grades from a trashy open university.
>t. larping poltard trying to push le jews bad narrative

Nobody actually believes your retarded ass blogpost. It's completely obvious to anyone who isn't a brainwashed storfag that you're just an angry schizo making shit up to make Jews and Israel look bad. You don't actually go to Tel Aviv university, although you can keep dreaming.

Maybe if you weren't a total loser, then you wouldn't have to larp on the internet in your free time. Kill yourself incel.

>> No.15642525

>>15642376
I agree with your post for the most part. And thanks, you are the first person to actually address my point fully, I appreciate that. Is a quality post.
>you're a woke neoliberal
Lol no, there was nothing woke or neoliberal in any of my posts.

I disagree with you because you partially misunderstood the point of threads like this. It is not to raise awareness about the replication crisis. Rather, it is an attack on educational institutions in general. Basically attempting to persuade people against attending colleges, or attending the best colleges they can, because "they're all retarded and do fake research anyways".
Look at OPs wording. Insinuating that researching in your basement is better than researching at Stanford. Or the seluth of posts>>15623754>>15630890>>15632053 and many more, just look through the thread. The point isn't the replication crisis. It is to attack education and promote trades instead. It's a common trope on /pol/. "Just go into the trades instead of college. Colleges are woke and corrupt anyways."

Incredibly demoralizing and defeatist ideology. My first post was just drawing an implicit analogy to these guys and the bum zoomer 'communists'. Explanation below.

It is basically a call for resignation from achieving anything in life and reducing themselves to trades and low tier positions. To not control anything meaningful in the world. Meanwhile, their enemies go into Ivys and get a higher education, they end up controlling society, acdemia, money everything. And then these fags complain even more that the woke control academia, govt. etc. because they themselves instead opted to become a plumber & resarch in their basement. Of course everything is woke, what are you doing to fix it? become a carpenter? This type of bum mentality shouldn't be promoted, everyone should try as hard as they can to get into as good a position in life as they can. No college in 95% cases=No power, influence, or "research ability"

>> No.15642540

>>15642376
Otherwise, as for the replication crisis, I agree with what you said. That is a genuine concern.
>>15642525
>My first post was just drawing an implicit analogy to these guys and the bum zoomer 'communists'. Explanation below.
I'll write out a brief example of what I mean by that analogy. Here, the format is {bum zoomer communist behaviour/4chan bum doomer behaviour}
>Zoomer/doomer has no money/higher education
>Has no job or a shit job
>Somebody else has good money/quality higher education
>What do to cope?
>"That person has money/education because he is fascist/woke and immoral"
>"Eat the rich/academics"
>" I'm better off poor/uneducated anyways"
>"All the rich/educated people are fascist/woke so I wouldn't wanna be associated with them at all."
I'm sure you can extrapolate the rest of this analogy and I don't have to write it all out. But it's clear what type of rotten mindset prompts somebody to post stuff like OP and some others itt have been doing.

>> No.15642558

>>15637743
Correct. It's clearly obvious from all my posts talking about how "undeserved" I am.
>>15640641
Good luck, hope you find somebody educated enough to engage with!

>> No.15642586

>>15642540
Yeah, if you think academia has become biased or corrupt, then I think the goal there should not be to turn to trades or something like that. That will only allow things to get worse over time. If you see a political or social issue that bothers you, it's usually better to engage and try to change the situation rather than being apathetic about the issue.

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15642870

>>15640237
>Wasting money they didn't earn is a status symbol for scientists
same goes for trophy wives of wealthy men
interesting coincidence

>> No.15642950

>>15614836
no you didnt faggot I made this thread
>>/sci/thread/15573897

>> No.15644336

>>15642950
that was a good thread