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Twitter user iris_IGB claims to have managed to produce meissner effect exhibiting LK-99 sample:
https://twitter.com/iris_IGB/status/1685731177523449856

Facebook user Awana Vps claims that his reproduced sample of LK-99 does not exhibit meissner effect:
https://archive.org/details/20230731090957426

Bilibili user 关山口男子技师 claims to have observed antimagnetism in his sample, but no superconductivity:
https://t.bilibili.com/824169267373015058

Bilibili user 关山口男子技师 claims to have made four samples of LK-99 and none of them exhibit the claimed superconductivity or meissner effect:
https://twitter.com/elsa17z/status/1685457032135008256

Research paper was posted to arxiv.org website claiming room temperature and pressure super conductor named LK-99:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008

Same researchers posted a video of LK-99 exhibiting meissner effect:
https://sciencecast.org/casts/suc384jly50n

List of Replication Efforts
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/claims-of-room-temperature-and-ambient-pressure-superconductor.1106083

Updated Paper Published
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

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Needle update

>> No.15611586

>>15611576
pls be real

>> No.15611589

>>15611576
NEW (UPDATED) PAPER JUST DROPPED
WE ARE SO BACK

>> No.15611592

>>15611576
Sinead O'Connors final research paper expounding on the theory that may explain what's going on with apatite superconductivity
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892

>> No.15611598
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It's over...

>> No.15611599

>>15611589
link it i need HOPE

>> No.15611603

>>15611599
OP gave it

>> No.15611604
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15611604

The Russian moron is a scammer and a fake and is getting white knighted by idiots like pic related because they have the same transgender mental illness

>> No.15611605

>>15611576
>Twitter user iris_IGB claims to have managed to produce meissner effect exhibiting LK-99 sample:

Can you not put this at the top of your list? Or mention the problems with refusing the post a video of the effect for now? It's the most exciting claim, but also the most suspicious and retarded one.

>> No.15611610

>>15611576
IT'S OVER

A group of Chinese scientists claim that it is actually a semiconductor: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16802

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>>15611598
Come on Argonne...

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>>15611599
have the embed
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2307/2307.12037.pdf

>> No.15611613

>>15611584
Enough to know a scam when I see one.
>>15611581
Unfortunately yes...

>> No.15611615

>>15611576
Russian troon refuses to post videos, gets defensive and “threatens” to rage quit at standard skepticism and asking for evidence. Twitter faggots rush to its defense. This has become a complete embarrassment. Ban superconductor threads.

>> No.15611617

>>15611611
They called it out as fake, just lettin' you know.

>> No.15611619
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This one gives theoretical justification

>> No.15611621

>>15611576
I don't get it bro's why would they lie? why is ever laboratory having trouble confirming the results? did they think no one would test it? is there something their not telling anyone else?

>> No.15611625

>>15611611
I don't have much trust in big laboratories following the bad procedure in the paper to the letter to replicate anything.
Hobbyists have shown you shouldn't blindly follow, but start thinking and experiment.

The paper was released with a minimal and conflicting information to reproduce. Temperatures are lower than melting for some of the materials. No shit they wouldn't replicate it if they followed the exact description.

>> No.15611626

>>15611617
>“People here are taking it seriously and trying to grow this stuff.”
>“I appreciate that the authors took appropriate data and were clear about their fabrication techniques.” Still, she cautions, “The data seems a bit sloppy.”
Please... a crumb of back...

>> No.15611629

>>15611621
They didn't lie they just got lucky one time and don't know how replicate their own results

>> No.15611630

>>15611576
It's cold fusion all over again...

>> No.15611636

>>15611610
A team of Indian scientists report the same: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16402

We lost /lkg/ bros...

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>>15611614
Oy vey.

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>>15611630
bros... this sounds familiar...

>> No.15611641

>>15611621
It could be a mistake. Remember that their CTO went rogue and published it without the team's knowledge. That's the only reason we know about it. Without that, they would be silently improving the results or the certainty.

It could also be real, and they don't know how to raise the purity to make it easy to verify.

>> No.15611642

>>15611621
https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1686178257593647104
>Reminder that this first attempt WILL PROBABLY NOT WORK. ROCK NO FLOAT, BUT ROCK STILL MAYBE INTERESTING
>The very first step of replication is to show that the correct form/composition material is created when the specific recipe is run. We'll be sticking to the baseline times / temps / ratios. I don't want to go offroading, we'll leave that to some other cooler people

>> No.15611646

>>15611640
"History repeats itself, but in such cunning disguise that we never detect the resemblance until the damage is done." - Sydney J. Harris

>> No.15611649

>>15611621
This is how they do the grift. If it's too esoteric or complicated, people will handwave and dismiss it. By making it simple, they're giving people hope that it's real, but in order to buy time to make money and dip, they will post nonsensical instructions that makes nothing and insist that everyone is making it wrong without telling them why. This will stretch on for a while but eventually people will catch on.

>> No.15611653

>>15611610
>>15611636
can you imagine being a semiconductor AND a superconductor? I'm no expert, but AFAIU that would be quite a great finding...

>> No.15611656

>>15611649
>make money
How

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>>15611640
>Ranga Dias AGAIN
Why does this poo keep popping up? Very sus indeed...

>> No.15611659

>>15611653
I mean, under different, configurable conditions

also, >>15611148 is interesting

>> No.15611660

If this is fake it's going to ruin, like, a dozen scientists' careers. At least. Why would you try to publish this if you're not completely certain?

>> No.15611669

>>15611660
it's called having a pair of balls between your legs and below the base of your phallus

>> No.15611671

>>15611660
For teh lulz

>> No.15611672

>>15611656
>How
you get old people who are easily fooled to give up their life savings by telling them "we're so close"

>>15611660
only one person needs to publish. for all we know the rest of the team is doing damage control.

>> No.15611673

Asking in the wrong place but here goes

Say you took the half floating sample, and split it in half and tossed the side that wasn't floating, what would the side that was floating do? Could you keep cutting it or crumbling it into pieces until the floating part was by itself?

>> No.15611677

>>15611673
>Say you took the half floating sample, and split it in half and tossed the side that wasn't floating, what would the side that was floating do?
It would float, obviously. Just because part of the sample is touching the magnet doesn't mean we aren't seeing levitation

>> No.15611680

>>15611671
imagine a week from now they publicly announce
>LMAO YOU ACTUALLY FELL FOR IT AND WASTED YOUR TIME TRYING TO REPLICATE IT

>> No.15611681

>>15611680
I can't wait for the day Worst Korea submits to Best Korea.

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So where are we at, /sci/?

>> No.15611686

Argonne is all that matters. I don't trust anything coming out of India or China. Particularly because those replication results are coming in suspiciously early. Like, am I supposed to believe some random university in India (or some random twitter transexual for that matter) is magically able to do the reactions faster than anyone else

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>>15611673
Well if it actually works because of the structure of the copper atoms inside the lead atoms then at the very least you could not cut the piece smaller than one "unit cell"

>> No.15611688

>>15611677
Yeah I just wondered why that wasn't done. Maybe it was the only sample with levitation they had at they didn't want to fuck it up

>> No.15611691

>>15611683
Mom would be sad

>> No.15611696

>>15611687
Microtransistorbros... it's over

>> No.15611697

>>15611660
To troll that Russian tranny lolcow

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>> No.15611702

>>15611576
I feel like people still don't understand the implications of this. If it's real, time machines will be real in less than 10 years.

>> No.15611705

>>15611702
lol

>> No.15611706
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bros.... it's officially over
>I am now significantly more convinced that the zero resistivity measurements are mostly an instrumentation error caused by contact problems, and while that the process could, by chance, create trace amounts of a diamagnetic material within itself, it is not a superconductor.

>> No.15611708

>>15611702
if this is real we will have intergalactic travel within 5 years fr ong no cap bruh

>> No.15611711

theres a trans catgirl anime pfp on twitter claiming they reproduced it for attention

refuses to provide any evidence

>> No.15611715

>>15611706
Unironically, why asians can replicate it but not westerners? Are there too many black scientists in the west?

>> No.15611717

>>15611706
>the cited papers are, shall we say, meagre
What a fag lol

>> No.15611722

>>15611715
Probably because they are also having instrument errors/measurement errors. They are lower quality labs.

>> No.15611724

>>15611706
>Wed Jul 26 2023

>> No.15611725

it's over..

>> No.15611726

>>15611702
lmao this is the power of western academia

>> No.15611728

>>15611706
>muh Meissner Effect
He's neglecting the fact that this is clearly a Type-III super, so no Meissner Effect but yes flux pinning

>> No.15611730

Mentally ill transgender posts fake stuff for attention. If you fall for his shit ur retarded

>> No.15611731

>>15611706
And the floating? Was that due to "trace diamagnetic material"?

>> No.15611732

>>15611701
We back?

>> No.15611733

So, does the new paper explain why replications may not be yielding the desired result? Or is it the same exact thing explained in different words?

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>>15611706
Oh no no no no... bros...
They literally said every single figure looks wrong in some way. The whole study seems like a crock of shit. STEM bugs BTFO...

>> No.15611736

>>15611711
Her second bake didn't work or something, she got sad. She was rambling about paper boats and ordering some equipment, the grift is still on, expect more.

>> No.15611737

>>15611640
The CIA/pentagon obviously intervened there and shut the whole thing down.

>> No.15611739

>>15611735
Why would they publish?
Isn't one of them linked to LG or Samsung screens?

>> No.15611740

Copely speaking, wouldn't there be a selection bias in reported replications, with failed replications being reported quickly while successful replications are double checked, triple checked and quadruple checked, since a false positive could be career suicide?

>> No.15611741

>mfw no superconductor waifu
Get to work. NOW.

>> No.15611743

Back to being depressed about my shit existence.
Better luck next time I guess. Nothing ever goes right on this shit fucking planet.

>> No.15611744

>>15611697
this is one of the most faggy traany things you can do btw

>> No.15611745

>>15611736
>she

>> No.15611746

>>15611740
Yes, unless the successful replication is done by an attention starved troon on twitter

>> No.15611748

>>15611740
wasn't someone saida MIT team arrived to examine the sample? why still no news?

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>>15611701
>>15611733
Yes, basically the superconducting structure in the material is when Copper displaces certain Lead atoms, but the other Lead substitution sites are lower energy and thus more likely to form during synthesis.

It's possible this could be solved with an improved synthesis process.

>> No.15611750

>>15611740
Yes. That makes sense. Do you have any more ideas? I need hopium.

>> No.15611751

>>15611749
Are you actually able to read this and understand what they're saying?

>> No.15611752

>>15611743
Don't lose hope, bro. I still think it will work. Time machines will be a reality.

>> No.15611753

Another 3 hour fraud documentary incoming.

>> No.15611754

Fuck this. We need to find the middle class white recipe for a superconductor. We'll take the same recipe the koreans used and add campbell's chicken noodle soup, dayquil, and sprite.

>> No.15611755

>>15611701
>>15611733
>>15611749
where did this come from? is the new paper out already?

>> No.15611756

>>15611755
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892

>> No.15611758

>>15611754
>Wypipo don't season their superconductors

>> No.15611760

>>15611749
Can replication teams examine the result's structure? Or does it require high tech equipments?

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Bros... i don't feel so good...

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>>15611576
Add Tajquantum to the list next to iris

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>>15611706

>> No.15611767

>>15611762
Is this just graphene foam or something?

>> No.15611768

>>15611762
Not LK-99, it's their own retarded graphene foam.
So far they have less proof than the Koreans.

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>>15611762

>> No.15611770

WHY WOULD YOU PUBLISH THIS SHIT

>> No.15611771

>>15611756
if the following is conclusion from Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, I think there is still hope

A recent report of room temperature superconductivity at ambient pressure in Cu-substituted
apatite (‘LK99’) has invigorated interest in the understanding of what materials and mechanisms
can allow for high-temperature superconductivity. Here I perform density functional theory calculations on Cu-substituted lead phosphate apatite, identifying correlated isolated flat bands at the
Fermi level, a common signature of high transition temperatures in already established families of
superconductors. I elucidate the origins of these isolated bands as arising from a structural distortion induced by the Cu ions and a chiral charge density wave from the Pb lone pairs. These results
suggest that a minimal two-band model can encompass much of the low-energy physics in this system. Finally, I discuss the implications of my results on possible superconductivity in Cu-doped
apatite.

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>>15611769
there's no fucking way

>> No.15611775

>>15611768
You can't have less than zero proof, which is currently what the Koreans have. So...

>> No.15611776

>>15611767
ummm no. It's graphene foam PLUS a dab of superglue.

>> No.15611778

>>15611769
>>15611774
some hater faked it to look fake you dinguses. you guys really are dumber than i thought

>> No.15611780

>>15611706
How does this explain the levitating sample?

>> No.15611781

Don't we already have superconductors at relatively high temp ie zero C, but they need absurdly huge pressure? That by itself is highly suggestive.
By itself doesn't that mean that with the right strained crystal you could duplicate that high pressure and have a room temperature superconductor?

>> No.15611782

>>15611775
Yeah, but at least the Gooks didn't photoshop pictures. >>15611769

>>15611778
Cope. Ameritards could never come up with a room temperature superconductor.

>> No.15611786

>>15611764

>> No.15611787

>>15611780
It doesn't. It's just better spoken Thunderf4g tier pop-skepticism

>> No.15611788
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Industrial superconductor in 6 months.
Power line upgrade in 7 years.
High speed transportation in 10 years.
Hover board in 15 years.
Quantum computation wide usage in 17 years.
Space travelling in 45 years.

>> No.15611790

>>15611782
>Bednorz and Muller
>American chads that worked for IBM
>Worlds first discoverers of high temperature superconductors
Kneel before us, peasant.

>> No.15611793

>>15611790
>Worlds first discoverers of high temperature superconductors
Worthless.

>> No.15611794

>>15611621
as an undergrad i was working in a research lab at my university, and you'd sometimes see these papers that were tangentially related to the polymer science we were doing. like, some catalyst that is made out of dirt cheap chemicals and competes with some noble metal nanoparticle bullshit. and we try it just to see, and it's fucking nothing.
like, three or four times this happened. just some bullshit paper out of china or india or something that is totally worthless when you actually test it.
maybe they actually cracked it and have this special catalyst and intentionally left out the special step to make it work, or maybe they never had it in the first place and just want to push out more papers. dunno, but it's really exhausting.

>> No.15611795

>>15611787
post chemistry phd
you faggots never do, do you? i suppose you would tell einstein why hes wrong too, right? you absolute midwit

>> No.15611796

>>15611786
>what if observation is key to unlocking EMDrive

>> No.15611797

>>15611642
>current street price of CuP is $20k/kg
>proceeded to order the entire supply of CuP from a supplier knowing the coming shitstorm, for cheap
this madman

>> No.15611798

we are so back
https://twitter.com/alexkaplan0/status/1686208150590935041

>> No.15611800

>>15611795
>i suppose you would tell einstein why hes wrong too, right
If he had clear logical flaws in his conjectures (which he did) then yeah

>> No.15611802

>>15611660
If you're wrong, you're wrong; no harm no foul. Just another experiment to have tried and failed on. In the off chance you're right. This changes the entire fucking world. That's a hella play to coward out on.

>> No.15611803

>>15611621
>>15611794
>be me
>be an asian researcher
>senior gave me another lecture for not publishing
>bringing dishonor to department
>need more money to send kids to afterschool
>need to publish 2 more papers or i dont think i can do this much longer

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>>15611798
WIGGLY LINE BROS!
WE'RE WIGGLIN!!!

>> No.15611808

>>15611706
>>15611798
between these two posts I actually did the it's over oh we back thing

>> No.15611810

>>15611790
Those were ceramics though aren't they? Pretty useless.

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>>15611798
Sinead is a woman, by that basis alone it's fucking over.

>> No.15611813

>>15611756
oh, shit, that's nice. it gives some seriousness to the discussion, unlike the retarded chinese/indian/russian/twitter grifters

>> No.15611815

>>15611812
>woman

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>>15611798
What does this mean?

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>>15611798
>>15611756
I don't know if I'd rely on this bitch

>> No.15611818

>>15611816
I don't know
BUT WE BACK BOISS

>> No.15611819

>>15611817
What am I supposed to see that's wrong in this image?

>> No.15611820

>>15611812
>Sinead
didn't she die a while ago?

>>15611817
would

>> No.15611822

>>15611819
She's a woman.

>> No.15611823
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>>15611782
Just wait a week

>> No.15611826

>>15611820
No this is her non-whore sister

>> No.15611827

>>15611796
I mean, double split experiment does weird fucking shit. I don't see why not here too.

>> No.15611829

>>15611796
>>15611827
>It's only a superconductor when you don't measure resistance
Would be the ultimate troll

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15611831

>>15611822
It also lists Dr Pederast if you wanted male input

>> No.15611832

>>15611823
There is literally no reason to believe these burgers, in their pictures they all looked bordering on retarded, they are american, they are even less professional than the Koreans, photoshoped their picture in the area that a string would be, they are americans.

>> No.15611834

>>15611829
fucking kek
the quantum wells don't like those resistance measurements

>> No.15611835

>>15611823
They are just a crypto scam

>> No.15611837

>>15611756
>(Dated: August 1, 2023)
wtf, she's a time traveler

>> No.15611838

>>15611829
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892
Per: https://twitter.com/sineatrix/status/1686182852667572224

>Origin of correlated isolated flat bands in copper-substituted lead phosphate apatite
>A recent report of room temperature superconductivity at ambient pressure in Cu-substituted apatite (`LK99') has invigorated interest in the understanding of what materials and mechanisms can allow for high-temperature superconductivity. Here I perform density functional theory calculations on Cu-substituted lead phosphate apatite, identifying correlated isolated flat bands at the Fermi level, a common signature of high transition temperatures in already established families of superconductors. I elucidate the origins of these isolated bands as arising from a structural distortion induced by the Cu ions and a chiral charge density wave from the Pb lone pairs. These results suggest that a minimal two-band model can encompass much of the low-energy physics in this system. Finally, I discuss the implications of my results on possible superconductivity in Cu-doped apatite

>> No.15611839

>>15611735
back to study more differential equation, hotpot. Avoid US bn scientist.

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>>15611832
Fuck you my man Steve wouldn't let me down

>Position: ---------
>Qualifications: ----------
>History: ---------
>Favorite color: ----------

>> No.15611843

>>15611829
I didn't mean to link that paper to this, but, oh well. Anyways, yeah; would be. The universe loves to fuck with us in unexpected ways. It's probably not the case, but would be absolutely mind boggling if it ended up being the case.

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>>15611841

>> No.15611851

>>15611817
ad hominem. not /sci.

>> No.15611854

>>15611851
ad feminem*

>> No.15611868

>>15611838
>2307.16892
idk bros, this paper isnt even by the gooks.. are we back?

>> No.15611870

>reading this thread
I wasn't even that optimistic and I still feel let down. It's over.

>> No.15611871

>>15611817
most scientists are goofy

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>>15611868
I want to get off MR BONES WILD RIDE

>> No.15611877

can a superconductor be used as a (configurable) semiconductor? what if we made circuits with semiconductors that ALSO are superconductors?

>> No.15611880

>>15611868
Basically, the theoretical math for LK99 being a superconductor in terms of its element composition seems to check out.

>> No.15611882

>>15611604
she's not trans

>> No.15611886

>>15611877
SCs can be pretty sensitive with how much current can flow through them before they stop SCing, so I suppose you could probably switch a SC by rapidly overloading its max current density?
I think it would generate a lot of heat from the non SC periods, though.
>My qualifications: -----------

>> No.15611893

>>15611838
so she has the material. why the fuck are they testing this bullshit instead of conductivity?

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>>15611823
Or a day, the non-anime twitter fag is baking. Will be ready by tomorrow.

>> No.15611897

>>15611893
It's just a computer simulation

>> No.15611898

>>15611893
She's talking purely on theoretical crystallographic grounds. The claimed structure appears to make sense for being a superconductor.

>> No.15611901

>>15611893
they don't. they are running simulations based on the original papers and they are saying we might be back after all.

>> No.15611902

>>15611893
It's whiteboard shit, anon.
This just means the theorycels seething have to shut up and cope with the updated theory of superconductivity with Korean bug spices.

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15611908

>>15611851
>/sci.

>> No.15611909

>>15611823
so we really needed to wait 2 more weeks since this shit started

>> No.15611911

>>15611886
I think this would destroy the material, because you need to be at it's max current to make it stop superconducting in which case all that current now has nowhere to go.

>> No.15611914

>>15611909
2 weeks would be very fast

>> No.15611915

>>15611893
holy fuck is the average reading comprehension really this bad on /sci/?

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15611917

>>15611838
>Obama-mic-drop.webm
Mega cringe

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>>15611798
If anything this is a super over moment. Like a Jim Cramer thing, whatever he says the opposite is true.

>> No.15611921

>>15611896
>Will be ready by tomorrow
No he said maybe tomorrow his Phosphorous arrives

>> No.15611923

>>15611917
nvm it's over

>> No.15611936

>>15611621
Tiny error measures or contaminated samples, two guys thinking in begin rich and patent LK-99 other guy winning nobel prize if rush to other two guys plus him(3 person limit nobel prize), prestigious South Korea University and one MIT guy, maybe interesting material, but no superconductor.

>> No.15611943

>>15611917
>>15611923
Yeah if she didn't do this stupid shit I'd have given her the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore.

>> No.15611947

>>15611917
argumentum ad obama

>> No.15611948

>>15611943
>>15611923
Good thing the actual people who are doing experiments take her word for what it is, over retards like you.

>> No.15611953

>>15611936
Bitch please, the theoretical math of the material structure checks out: >>15611838. It's not over until its over.

>> No.15611958

>>15611838
I now believe that LK-99 is a hoax

>> No.15611961

>>15611948
>literally who
the only person taking her word for it are replies in the thread where they all admit they dont know shit, and op is just a barista

>> No.15611965

>>15611948
>>15611953
>woman "science"
this is what /sci/ has come to

>> No.15611970
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15611970

https://twitter.com/alexkaplan0/status/1686213144010428416

>> No.15611974

>>15611970
Impressive background, however,

>> No.15611977

>>15611970
Too many citations. Seems fake.

>> No.15611982

>>15611717
>we mixed some elements together and got a result
>Ok but ummm SOURCE????????
kill modern academics.

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>>15611974
https://foundry.lbl.gov/about/staff/sinead-griffin/

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15611987

>Sinéad Griffin

>> No.15611990

>>15611798
This fills up my hopium and copium tanks. Back into the abyss of overposting. But my resolve is strong.

>> No.15611994

>>15611983
She have an OF?

>> No.15611996

>>15611990
resolve to do what?

>> No.15611997

>Sneed Griffin
Definitely overhyping because they have to back up the strong womyn.

>> No.15611999

Are people on /sci/ unironically putting their faith in this theranos bitch or is this some sort of elaborate joke?

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>>15611996
To hope and cope of course. It's Real. Simple as.

>> No.15612006

>>15612004
holy shit is that real?

>> No.15612008

>>15612004
how did they make it do that?

>> No.15612009

>>15612006
No, you're lying eyes are hallucinating it. Of course its real retard

>> No.15612012

>>15611999
wait, do you actually think a gook conman actually discovered a room temperature superconductor?

>> No.15612013

>>15612012
maybe

>> No.15612014

>>15611838
I've never liked her after she tore up the pope's photo on MTV

>> No.15612015

>>15611999
The bitch did some napkin math on the theory and it checks out. It helps to have credentials when crunching those numbers then making the claim. Nothing on verifiable physical proof however, which seems rather tricky despite how simple the material composition is. We're more likely to get proof once the lab gives out a sample from the authors (which according to rumor a lab at MIT has received such a sample).

>> No.15612016

>>15612013
are you stupid?

>> No.15612017

>>15612015
retard

>> No.15612018

lk99 works on my machine

>> No.15612020

>>15612008
>>15612006
Use of superconducting apatate

>> No.15612023

>the year is 2050
>the entire world now relies on superconductors for their technology, computation, and infrastructure
>the superconductors can only be manufactured in south korea by one autistic old guy

>> No.15612024

We are so fucking back and it's never going to be over

>> No.15612026

>>15612016
Why is a room temperature superconductor so impossible?

>> No.15612027

>>15612023
>banned in all countries but Vietnam because they use lead

>> No.15612028

>>15612015
You can use math to show anything. Doesn't mean a damn thing

>> No.15612029

>>15612026
It isn't impossible.
Women are.

>> No.15612031

>>15612023
>The price of quartz has skyrocketed to unsustainable highs

>> No.15612032

>>15612026
South Korean rooms are much colder than the average western room. This whole kerfuffle is the fault of cultural mistranslations.

>> No.15612033

>Kim Jong Un tells his people he actually invented it

>> No.15612035

>>15612031
>tfw /pol/ will go from "buy silver" to "buy quartz"

>> No.15612036
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>>15612015
>Believe a random nobody with napkin math
or
>Believe a whole team of solid state chemistry experts from the Max Planck Institute, the most prestigious and accomplished materials science research center in the world that says its shit
I think I better believe the former!

>> No.15612037

>>15612033
>dprk is... LE BAD

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>>15612032
>b-b-but you p-promised a superconductor at room t-temperature!
>hah hah hah yes I did, but your room must first be... adjusted!
>NNNNOOOOOOOOOO-!!!

>> No.15612041

>>15612039
kekd

>> No.15612043

I’m thinking you’ll need the right Pb an Cu isotopes to get the rtsc property, it would explain the synthesis sometimes working and other times not working. Looking at it occurrences of Pb 207 I am guessing it would only work 25% of the time.

>> No.15612046

>>15612036
>whole team of solid state chemistry experts from the Max Planck Institute
where is their statement?

>> No.15612047

>>15611965
>without marie curie, radioactivity would be undiscovered for many years later
>if not for marie curie, you wouldn't be here being able to shitpost about how women in science are bad
you retarded kek,

>> No.15612051

>>15612014
Boo fucking hoo faggot. Boo fucking hoo.

>> No.15612053

>>15612043
We can see from satellite photos that Iran has begun enriching lead, we have to act now before Tehran has the capacity to superconduct.

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>>15612033
>>15612037
https://twitter.com/ShamanGeo/status/1685860440419729408

Unironically yes. Even Kim Jong Un can afford lead and copper, and his country is already making and exporting drugs because they're sanctioned from selling anything the legit way.

>> No.15612056

>>15612046
Here
>>15611706

>> No.15612061

>>15611915
>implying he even followed the link
kek

>> No.15612062
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https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1686233296538365952
>First batch of (PbO+ Pb(SO4) to Pb2(SO4)O (Lanarkite)

>> No.15612063

>>15612055
lmao at the thought of North Korea doing anything superconductor related except sending their people to work in China's quartz mines for food

>> No.15612066

>>15612062
Sexy pictures

>> No.15612067

>>15612062
absolute state of that setup

>> No.15612068
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>>15611576
Anywhere I can get a copy of the VASP software?
Actually a repository of software like Accelrys various suites would be great too

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>>15612062

>> No.15612076

>>15611715
no, the only scientists are in the west.

>> No.15612081

>>15612047
You aren't ready for the Pierre-pill, and that's okay

>> No.15612082

>>15611774
it's at a better place now

>> No.15612083

>>15612062
>windows user
it's over

>> No.15612084

I'm not an expert, but, why do people still don't understand that chemistry is primarily an experimental field? AFAIU, it's just impossible to predict the properties of a compound given its recipe and components.

>> No.15612087
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>every chimp that says it's not real hasn't even attempted to replicate
Why? No one gives a shit about someone's opinion. Make the damn thing and post results. It's that easy.

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>>15612028
We're talking quantum physics nerd, it HAS to be math.

>> No.15612092

>>15612083
block letters instead of cursive writing too

>> No.15612095

If the computers proved it's real, why are we waiting on dopes to replicate it in their garages?

>> No.15612098

>>15612087
If it were possible it would have been done already

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>>15612098
>t.

>> No.15612103

>>15612098
it's only been 1 week. people have jobs, life and might not have everything that's needed to cook this thing. test it and then they have to try stuff and analyze it, maybe

>> No.15612105

Why did they sit on this for 20 years? We could be living in the Jetsons by now.

>> No.15612113

>>15612105
because it wasn't theirs, it was discovered by some croat

>> No.15612115

>>15612105
they had the basic idea in 1999 and have been slowly experimenting trying to make it work since iirc
only gained more funding withing the last several years

>> No.15612116

>>15612105
Because South Korea is insecure and didn't want another country to outpace them

>> No.15612127

>>15612081
Please, it's "le Pill du Pierre"

>> No.15612136

>>15612105
They went all in on a farmer turned veterinarian who claimed to be cloning animals instead.

>> No.15612144

>>15612136
yeah Ill see you all in a year when the BobbyBroccoli documentary comes out

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15612155

>seething linux trannies absolutely btfo
you love to see it

>> No.15612168

>>15612155
only simulations run on Tumbleweed and programmed in Rust are legitimate

>> No.15612177

>>15611798
>>15611806
>>15611816
>>15611970
Stop attention whoring, Alex Kaplan. All you do in life is make coffee after graduating college. Mods should consider banning you.

>> No.15612180

>>15612105
Imagine trusting Korean science.

>> No.15612186

>>15612098
Only /biz/ and /pol/ crossboarders keep spamming this Korean scam on /sci/. First, they spam tweets from a coffee barista and then they spam tweets from some Russian tranny.

>> No.15612190
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15612190

>using Qinux in front of my class mates in quantum simulation class
>teacher says "Ok students, now open up iQuanti"
>start furiously typing away at terminal to install Qine
>Errors out the ass
>Everyone else has already started their simulations
>I start to sweat (I am wearing a parka as the classroom is kept at 0C)
>Install CryptoQ
>"Umm...what the fuck is THAT anon?" a girl next to me asks
>I tell her I'm running TajFoam and it can do everything LK-99 can do and IT'S ON THE BLOCKCHAIN
>"Ok class, now simulate two electrons at once!" the teacher says
>I fucking break down and cry and run out of the class
>I get beat up in the hoverboard lot after school

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15612192

People on Manifold are getting excited from the simulation paper.

>> No.15612195

Folks I have a friend who was a janitor at the lab they produced LK-99. He assured me…It’s Real.

>> No.15612197

>>15612192
And thus /biz/ becomes exit liquidity yet again

>> No.15612198
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15612198

Say this is real and not just another fraud like the clone bullshit. How would this affect the average person?

>> No.15612200

>>15612190
lil nigga did not know about tensor products

>> No.15612201

>>15612198
everything becomes much cheaper soon

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15612202

>>15611798
>Alex Kaplan
who fuckin cares

>> No.15612204

>>15612198
Not nearly as much as the average pop-sci nitwit on this board seems to hope.

>> No.15612206

>>15612201
If you believe this you're very fucking dumb
Electronics will go down sure but housing/education will still become much more expensive

>> No.15612207

>>15612198
If this is implemented in everything within the decade: Climate Change is reversible.
If its not implemented within the decade: Climate change is not reversible

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>>15611812
Katie Bouman proved to the world that women can into world class science

>> No.15612211

>>15611970
Diversity hire

>> No.15612213
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15612213

>see we're heading towards a post scarcity world
>realize all I want is a gf who loves me

>> No.15612214

>>15612202
then forgot about kaplan and focus on the paper https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16892

>> No.15612215

>>15612198
anime will become real
honestly it might, since VR would become infinitely cheaper

>> No.15612217

all of you retards are skimming off the same half-dozen twitter blue checks. you are listening to people who paid a south african conman with hair plugs eight dollars to post when they could already post for free. many of these people are AI grifters, san fransisco startup tech fucks, and nft salesmen who have a deep financial/reputational interest in appearing knowledgeable on "the new big thing." remember -- they paid to use a free service for no reason. they are automatically extremely unreliable. you are believing a circus full of carny barkers. is LK-99 actually real? is that actually the world's fattest man? come on. believe it when the people without blue checkmarks start talking about it. until then it's all bullshit and you're all suckers

>> No.15612218

>>15612207
>Change
Not real.

>> No.15612219

>>15612218
the earth has had the hottest day in the world like 4 days in a row
i would know i live in Florida, shits becoming nearly uninhabitable

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>>15611817
How do I get a cute STEM gf bros?

>> No.15612223

>>15612213
>Post scarcity
oh no bud that shits gonna cost you and its gonna cost you a lot

>> No.15612224

>>15612198
In theory your utilities / electronics / anything with wiring will become a lot stronger while also becoming a lot cheaper
In reality they'll probably keep rampig up prices and not improve anything because planned obsolescence makes the kikes in power of all the corpos more money

>> No.15612225

>>15612214
Who cares about the specifics? Prediction market already tells us the findings are true. /biz/ reads much faster than /sci/ because they have ChatGPT.

>> No.15612226

>>15612221
1. be willing to date a tranny

>> No.15612229

>>15612226
lifehack right there

>> No.15612231

>>15612213
Bro, artificial scarcity is all the rage.

>> No.15612232
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>>15612221
Sorry, did you say stem girl?

>> No.15612233
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15612233

We're so unbelievably fucking back

>> No.15612234

>>15612190
entangling

>> No.15612236

>Thing that makes everything cheaper
>It actually makes everything more expensive
i want every billionaire to fry in nuclear fire

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>>15612223
>be me
>want free electricity
>set up lightning rod
>connect rod to superconducting LK-99 loop
>connect loop to big transformer
>hit a switch whenever I want power
>free power forever
problem, scientists?

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>>15612226
>>15612232
wait that's a tranny...??
no...
go on without me...

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>>15612233
>blue check
look guys! that clown says it's really the world's fattest man in that tent! >>15612217

>> No.15612245

>>15612243
Furry transwomen are at the bleeding edge of scientific progress and people still will not let their biases go
its truly sad

>> No.15612250

>>15612206

sure, housing/education

really figured out those categories

>> No.15612254

>>15612250
Housing will cost 5000% of your yearly income in the future. You can still have electronics while being homeless. Have fun.

>> No.15612256

>>15612238
Pretty sure this would work.

>> No.15612259

>>15612254
I'll just wander around aimlessly in the street wearing VR goggles that let me exist in my own perfect world.

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>>15612232
Ah yes, a based starbound enjoyer.

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15612264

it seemed so over at the start of this thread and now we are SO fucking back
how long until it's over again?

>> No.15612265

>>15612198
>how would this affect the average person
really hard to say. first order effects (tech made possible by superconductors) probably power becomes much cheaper, long-distance high-speed trains become much more economically viable, and maybe we get super efficient batteries. but those are all first order effects. second order effects (technology made possible by what superconductors make possible) possibly gargantuan and already hard to imagine. accelerated desktop quantum computing? third order effects (tech made possible by tech made possible by tech made possible) incalculable

>> No.15612268

>>15612233
Wait so it is real?????

>> No.15612269

>>15612268
Yes. BUY BUY BUY

>> No.15612270

Vaush fuck off i see you, faggot

>> No.15612272

>>15612217
>Loose analogies and seething
Post calculations or stfu

>> No.15612274

>>15612272
Burden of proof is on you

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ITT

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>>15612233

>Hard to synthesize

Are we going to run into another carbon nanotube situation in which the material is incredible but manufacturing it in scale is impossible?

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>>15612264

>> No.15612279

>>15612277
Carbon nanotube is true
LK99 is fake

>> No.15612280

>>15612275
What does this mean? Are we back?

>> No.15612281

>>15612268
It seems like there's something to it, going by current theories. But it might be very delicate and poorly understood.

>> No.15612283

>>15612280
I think it might be over

>> No.15612285

>>15612268
nope, see >>15612217

>> No.15612286

>>15612277
Yup. Hype train is gearing up tho, RTSC memes will be profitable trades for years

>> No.15612287

>>15612283
We are so back

>> No.15612289

>>15612272
conmen are pissing in your face and telling you it's raining, and you believe them because they have a blue checkmark and they all claim to be reinventing the world at their little bay area tech companies that disrupt the fish stick industry with blockchain or whatever the fuck. please. these are not serious, reliable people.

>> No.15612291

I'll be honest, if I had to choose between marrying my oneitis and us getting Blade Runner world, I'd choose my oneitis.

>> No.15612293

>>15612289
Actually it's because they have PhDs and work in national labs.

>> No.15612295

>>15612291
Good thing this guy's not at the helm!

>> No.15612297

>>15612073
He is the guy who hoarded all the toilet paper during covid

>> No.15612298

>>15612291
if i were your oneitis i'd fucking kill myself

>> No.15612303

>phase out leaded fuel after it gave boomers cancer
>Bringing back lead in 2030 and dying from poisoning due to it being in the new superconductors in everything
Was it worth it?

>> No.15612307

>>15612303
i would happily exchange some neurons for better batteries and shit

>> No.15612310

>>15612297
>You want to synthesize superconductors?
>Well too bad, because I ordered ALL the copper phosphate from Sigma and if you want any you have to order it from MY new store, Sigma 2

>> No.15612312

>>15612233
I seriously can't believe time travel is about to become real.

>> No.15612315

>>15612303
>gave boomers cancer
That would have been based. Instead it made them all retarded and we've been suffering its consequences ever since

>> No.15612322

How can superconductors even be a thing... Sounds totally bonkers. All logic and intuition suggests that materials can approach smaller and smaller resistances, but not actually reach 0. Reaching zero is like reaching the speed of light for massive particles, or an absolute temperature of exactly zero. It makes equations break down, divisions by zero.

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>>15612303
> give boomers cancer again for a breakthrough that might lead to curing cancer

>> No.15612324

>>15612322
science fuckery or smth

>> No.15612325

>>15612322
quantum fuckery, unsurprisingly

>> No.15612328

>>15612293
they have serious financial interest in appearing smart and up-to-date about the technology world. they thrive off clicks, attention, retweets, redirects to their podcasts and substacks and paid sales videos, attention from investors funded by rich retards who will believe anything on a slide deck read by someone wearing a turtleneck. first they told us that a jpeg with a receipt attached to it was going to change everything, then a chatbot was going to change everything, and now they're saying that a floating rock is actually a superconductor? give me a fucking break. the one actual bit of "proof" is a scientist who "published" a paper on arXiv saying that the proposed mechanism of action is possible, maybe, theoretically, in a computer simulation. two labs have tried and failed to replicate it and the best materials science lab in the world laughed it out of the room. believe it when it's replicated. until then, it's over. it's so fucking over. it's never been more fucking over than it is right now because it never even began

>> No.15612333

>>15612322
This isn't one of those theoretically impossible things that break physics. This was always theoretically possible but not yet known. Just like metallic hydrogen

>> No.15612334

Reminder: Manipulatable gravitons are also real. All sci-fi stuff is real.

>> No.15612335

>>15612322
I wish all our physics broke down, scientists are due a reminder that they cannot comprehend reality, just make models that more or less work on some specific situations.

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Question: what stops me from pretending to replicate the material on twitter and then manipulating the fuck out of the prediction markets?

>> No.15612339

>>15612337
Low market depth and liquidity.

>> No.15612340

>>15612291
Luckily for us you marrying your oneitis is the only choice here that's actually impossible now kek

>> No.15612342

>>15612334
Yo mamma so fat she already manipulates gravitons

>> No.15612345

>>15612328
Anon they are successful doctorates working at prestigious institutions, they are smart and up-to-date about the technology world.
These aren't desperate cryptobros trying to hop on the next scam.

>> No.15612346

>>15612333
What about the basic electrical equations? Voltage = Current/Resistance

What is the voltage over the material if its resistance is 0?

>> No.15612347

>>15612198
out of job because millions of companies would go bankrupt

>> No.15612348

>>15612335
what if it's models all the way down

>> No.15612350
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>>15612348

>> No.15612349
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Here in my garage I mixed lead and copper

>> No.15612354

>>15612346
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductor#Zero_electrical_DC_resistance
>The resistance of the sample is given by Ohm's law as R = V / I. If the voltage is zero, this means that the resistance is zero.
Kek they're literally doing 0/0. Mathfags will seethe

>> No.15612355

>>15612335
Nigga you are reality, explain to me how you cant comprehend something that you are

>> No.15612362

>>15612289
Is this ChatGPT? No seriously

>> No.15612364

>>15612346
The cope is that the equation only works for regular conductors.
I think really we have no understanding of how electricity or magnets work. Just like we don't know how gravity work. "Fields" are a mathematical concept just like "spacetime". once you go deep into all the fundemental forces the explanations just devolve into restating our equations in plane english. There is no deeper understanding than this is our current best fit equation.

>> No.15612367

>>15612345
>these are successful doctorates
so? financial interest
>working at prestigious institutions
so? again, absolutely zero proof, and I can’t help but notice every single one of these retards is also trying to shill something. as far as I’m concerned they’re conning, inadvertently but they’re conning. it’s in their nature. chrome-slick fucks. replication or bullshit

>> No.15612372

>>15612303
>touching/seeing lead gives you cancer
>watching a cathode ray tube will fry you with x-rays
I hate clueless zoomers so much.

>> No.15612375

>>15612367
>every single one of these retards is also trying to shill something.
Even Sinead?

>> No.15612378

>>15612346
it's just another one of those classical physics equations that are correct 99% of the time but wrong in extreme circumstances like quantum systems
it's not even as strange as things like relativistic time dilation/length contraction, which also fly in the face of classical laws and common sense

>> No.15612383

>>15612322
Why should electrical resistance even exist in the first place?

>> No.15612402

>>15612375
>theoretically possible maybe in a simulation heres my glorified blogpost
pure copium, not quite meaningless but close. replication or bullshit

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15612404

>>15611947

>> No.15612422

>>15611834
>w-what are you doing with those four probes UwU

>> No.15612426

>>15611877
yes
"Josephson junction" is the search string you are looking for

>> No.15612427

>>15612402
t. seething experimentalist (probably T-f4g)

>> No.15612440

>>15612355
We are macro and isolated enough to understand the body (to an extent) in a vacuum. Not the same as understanding fundamental questions or meaning or ascertain the "laws of the universe"

>> No.15612451

>>15612233

>bullish for humanity

Why are people like this?

>> No.15612456

>>15612451
fuck off Zorg

>> No.15612458

>>15612322
what is the electrical resistance of free space?

>> No.15612460

>>15612451
gtfo if you do not root for humanity

>> No.15612461

>>15612458
377 ohms

>> No.15612464

what if the superconductor invention is the thing that makes all the aliens go "aight time to reveal ourselves to humans as fellow intelligent being"

>> No.15612470

>>15612464
Well that's really unfair what about aliens that started on really cold planets?

>> No.15612474

>>15612464
What makes you think it wasn't aliens who slipped this tech? I mean Sukbae? What kind of name is that? And has anyone even SEEN that guy since this whole thing started...?

>> No.15612480

>>15612451
Reddit is that way. We are pro humanist board.

>> No.15612481

>>15612474
was it jacques vallee who argued that all technology and paradigm shifts in science come from interdimensional beings

>> No.15612497
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The prof who taught us computational chemistry during masters basically said 90% of published results cannot be trusted and most people in this field don't really know what they're doing. Results can look seemingly good and still be way off from reality, even for very simple molecules. This is a crystal lattice. I take DFT and other computational results with a big grain of salt.

There are so many bad DFT papers out there because it's cheap to do DFT compared to growing and measuring samples carefully. DFT is notoriously unreliable as a predictive tool in strongly correlated systems, though when electron correlations are small it works well. I mean, I want this to be true, but I put little stock in DFT that doesn't calculate observables.

TL;DR computational modelling for materials like this is extremely unreliable.

>> No.15612499

>>15612461
kek

>> No.15612501

>>15612213
in a post scarcity world, accomplishing that will be even more difficult

>> No.15612502

>>15612497
It's over...

>> No.15612506

>>15612497
Tell your faggot professor to explain this https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.16040.pdf

>> No.15612507

>>15612506
We are so back

>> No.15612514

>>15612464
That would explain all the aliens referenced in ancient text and drawings. Since this is a simple material made from mixing random shit, it's almost guaranteed/confirmed previous civilizations had access to it.

>> No.15612516

>>15612481
Tesla had all his inventions appear to him in his dreams hadn't he?

>> No.15612546

>>15612506
WE'RE BACK LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.15612556

>>15612516
Descartes and Darwin are well known examples as well. most others probably didn't want to deal with the stigma of being seen as mentally ill or having developed theories out of visions or bouts of fever or they came to the understanding not to reveal how they came about that knowledge because they understood the source a bit better so they kept it secret.

a lot of groundbreaking discoveries are made by "accident" or just simply intuited and then reverse engineered (the theory is post hoc) rather than linearly or circularly developed by the standard scientific method

Poincare has lectured on this mode of creativity:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190904163001/https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/poincare/henri/science-and-method/book1.3.html

where it comes from depends upon your worldview

>> No.15612566

Are the posts of it is over and it is back just coming from the same anon?

>> No.15612570
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>>15612506
WE ARE HOME

>> No.15612577

>>15612346
Just make the resistnce extremely small. Problem solved. 0.0000000000000001 Ohm

There is always a little resistance rihht?

>> No.15612581

>>15612506
Holy shit, Chinkie just BTFO your boomer teacher >>15612497

>> No.15612585

>>15612566
in the absence of sensory data the hivemind hallucinates and dissociates

>> No.15612588

It's SO BACK

Basically confirmed at this point

>> No.15612589

>>15612514
You watched to many national geographic.

>> No.15612603

>>15612577
nah nothing says it can't be exactly zero. they just model it it using free electrons and the Lorentz force

>> No.15612606

>>15612577
wrong
what is the electrical resistance of free space?

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>>15612506
Still inconclusive, whats your point? You got me all excited for nothing.

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I have evidence against it...my lab will be publishing in the morning. I'm sorry

>> No.15612618

>>15612589
Our civilization comprises less than 1% of our time as a species, and that's being generous. It's disingenuous to think other iterations of ourself haven't discovered different tech from us.

>> No.15612619 [DELETED] 

>>15612585
Or you have a troll and pretends to be multiple people TXA02

>> No.15612623

>>15612619
>TXA02
compelling

>> No.15612641

>>15612566
I'm the guy who keeps pretending to be Thunderf00t and posting about ceramics

>> No.15612643

>>15612217
you actually get more features with the blue check, and if you have a lot of followers and impressions, you can actually get paid
having a lot of followers and not taking that money would be retarded

>> No.15612652

>>15612566
All my post written by chatGPT

>> No.15612684

>>15611653
It's probably a semiconductor in bulk form, they should smash their sample into small bits and see if there are any bands of superconductivity

>> No.15612688

>sinead griffin wikipedia page already updated to include this paper

>> No.15612691

>>15611657
Pajeets set society back a few dozen years. That's what happens when you let them anywhere. What do you think is going to happen when all those fortune 500 companies start doing audits after hiring indian ceos'?

>> No.15612704

>>15611706
>appeal to personal authority
>assumptions
I sleep.

>> No.15612708

>>15612198
>>15601769

>> No.15612710

>>15611790
>worked for IBM
As what exactly? Coffee-carrying interns?

>> No.15612711
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BACK

>> No.15612720

>>15611896
That's just him making Lanarkite. It'll be done by like Thursday

>> No.15612734

>>15612710
Samcuck uses IBM for their GAAFET technology. They're also leaders in neuromorphic and quantum computing research. And while their WATSON jeopardy bot was a nice gimmick, it still paved the way to comparably more functional ones like GPT-4.

>> No.15612760

>>15612333
>This was always theoretically possible but not yet known
What are you talking about? We've had superconductors for many decades, they are just impractical due to extreme operating temperatures.

>> No.15612761

>>15612734
So they're crypto scammers? How is that in any way related to material science?

>> No.15612762

>>15612098
It's been replicated, but lazy faggots want to be spoonfed and just dismiss it as fake when their casual browsing doesn't give them the most recent updates
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14p4y1V7kS/?buvid=XU9214C956197C593213EBCB64F176098C720

>> No.15612774

https%3A%2F%2Fm.bilibili.com%2Fvideo%2FBV14p4y1V7kS%3Fshare_source%3Dcopy_web%26vd_source%3D4627c2a4ec79c14d7e37ed085714be96%26share_times%3D1


We are totally back.

Lets go Kardashian Scale I

>> No.15612787

>>15612606
What do you mean free space? Vaccuum?

>> No.15612789

>>15612774
I ain't clicking that shit nigga

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>>15612774
have they ruled out diamagnetism? I mean even if it floats it would need 0 resistance

>> No.15612801

>>15612762
It doesn't say that they cooked LK-99 and replocated results

>> No.15612805
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>>15612794
They think it's Meissner effect.

>> No.15612806

>>15612762
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and one chinese lab with a blurry video is not extraordinary evidence. Wake me up when dozens of renowned labs all over the world has replicated it.

>> No.15612828

>>15612806
Nobody cares about you and whether you specifically are convinced or not.

>> No.15612833

>>15612806
when you consider this in conjunction with a highly reputable paper finding that this material should be legit according to theory, it's not hard to believe these are real replications
of course, we still don't know for sure, but things don't look so bad

>> No.15612845

>>15612828
Nobody cares whether you care

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>>15612794
Thats the smallest dingiest shit I've ever seen. THAT is the savior of our world and future? Get that shit outta here nigga.

>> No.15612866

>>15612860
tracks with it being difficult to synthezise and the russian tranny had similarly sized small particles

>> No.15612867
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15612867

wikipedia page looking much better than it did earlier today
they completely removed the entry saying china replicated it and found it to be a total failure, not sure what happened to it

>> No.15612883

>>15612805
>Microsoft Edge

>> No.15612969

Is it back or are we over?

>> No.15612985

>>15611576
>>15608771

I'm surprised no one has tested the Lk-99 reproduction sample materials at different temperatures and pressures.

Korea is at a different altitude and geomagnetic base vs india and europe.

China is closer, might explain the discrepancy, if china is not full of shit.

Eg. Anything greater than -200c might be interesting. Everyone is trying to replicate a keyhole and not a range on the claim.

>> No.15612986

>>15612969
We are more back than ever,

>> No.15613007

What the FUCK is a DIAMAGNET? Can you STOP using NERD words?
If rock FLOATY it means MESSENIER effect
If rock FLOATY suddenly NOT MESSIENEIER but DIAMAGNET
what the FUCK is the DIFFERENCE?
Are you MAKING stuff UP???
IF this is a GENERAL please make a GLOSSARY so RETARDS such as ME can UNDERSTAND
I only read TROON MESSIENER DIAMAGNET QUANTUM WE BACK WE OVER CHINK FAKE TRUTH ARRRRRGH

>> No.15613015

>>15613007
tu eres forocochero

>> No.15613027

>>15613007
diamagnet: object no like magnet, run away from magnet no matter which way magnet face. may spontaneously float to escape magnet.
Meissner effect: VERY STRONG diamagnet. super scared of magnet, no part find magnet interesting whatsoever. normal diamagnet only kind of scared of magnet.

>> No.15613054

>>15613027
THANKS but if SUPERCONDUCTOR is a specific kind of MAGNET how do we DIFERENTIATE???
WHY people are like "it's DIAMAGNET not SUPERCONDUCTOR"

>> No.15613067

>>15613054
we would expect any superconductor to exhibit the Meissner effect, as opposed to a normal level of diamagnetism of an ordinary diamagnet.
they're just arguing about how strong the magnetic interaction shown is, basically.

>> No.15613075

>>15612794
lmao, literally a nothingburger

it's over until we have a floating rock desk toy recorded on video

>> No.15613105

>>15613067
THANKS

>> No.15613146

>>15613075
The first video showed something that was not a floating desk toy out of avatar, the thing released if real is not going to produce that.

>> No.15613159

>>15613146
first video didn't fully float because of impurities

>> No.15613179

>>15612867
>no Alex Kaplan on the page
it's shit

>> No.15613190

>>15613179
alex kaplan is the coffee guy, not the varda engineer

>> No.15613221

>>15613159
the video showed it floating and I think they flipped it to show it wasn't just a magnet. It could be the limit of the process they made. It also could be why they were not ready to publish before the person kicked off the team published the paper.

>> No.15613222

>>15613190
yeah exactly he's the one breaking all of the news about it and providing in-depth analysis of the results. News of this breakthrough doesn't happen if not for Alex Kaplan.

>> No.15613234

>>15611794
I no longer even bother trying to do anything Chinese or Indian papers recommend because of exactly this reason. Every synthesis I tried from them was either complete fraud or had yields an order of magnitude lower than they claim. Whole countries of scam artists.

>> No.15613252

>>15613222
you are confusing you reading twitter and everyone.

>> No.15613254

>>15612201
This never happens. If anything it'll be the opposite.

>> No.15613285

>>15613027

Meissner = incel

Diamagnet = sigman grindset

Magnet = chad

>> No.15613288

>>15612867
The page is being edited by copium shills, they're hiding all the inconvenient results.

>> No.15613337

>>15613252
i dont read twitter i read 4chan. in-between the it's overs we're backs the only constant has been Alex Kaplan screencap posts. Think about it this way: the average normie who hears about this probably knows who Kaplan is, but they can't name any of the authors of the paper off the top of their heads. Kaplan deserves a mention on the wiki page and when the Koreans win the Nobel he should win the Pulitzer for breaking the news to a wider audience.

>> No.15613341

>>15613337
ok Kaplan

>> No.15613345

>>15613337
Buy an ad Kaplan

>> No.15613349

>>15613337
The average person is not paying attention to any of this

>> No.15613416

>>15613337
lmao pretty good

>> No.15613451

https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/why-are-there-memes-about-superconductors-the-buzz-around-lk-99-explained

Kaplan is being credited as being the SOURCE of all superconductor memes on the OFFICIAL KnowYourMeme website. This is proof that Wikipedia is biased and has an anti-Kaplan agenda.

>> No.15613463

>>15613451
If true shows wikipedia is better

>> No.15613474

What is "plural"?

>> No.15613503
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WE ARE BACK AGAIN!

https://targum.video/v/2023/8/1/41a0e9f410fbb85bb8f66d6d953b25c1/

>> No.15613580

>>15613503
>magnet array
kek

>> No.15613641

One things that's been clearly demonstrated is that everyone with "AI" in their bio is a massive fucking lying fraud with no idea what they are talking about.

I think most people who follow these guys now believe superconductors are actually free-energy generating machines that can provide infinite power. They act like batteries and long distance transmission lines don't already exist. They think MRIs are expensive because the cooling, and not because they are being robbed by their hospital.

The level of mania and stupidity I've seen the last few days over this has shown me that this isn't a phenomenon of low-information individuals. The people most susceptible to this kind of manic-depressive imbecile behavior are the absolutely retarded fags who read too much ultra-low-quality (140 char etc.) commentary all day.

>> No.15613651

>>15613641
What do you mean by AI in their bio? You mean the AI enthusiasts?

>> No.15613653

>>15613641
>MRIs are actually dirt cheap
wat

>> No.15613665

>>15612225
>ChatGPT
>Prediction
lmao retards

>> No.15613666

>>15611802
It doesn't change the entire world. Stop and fucking think.

>> No.15613681

>>15613641
>One things that's been clearly demonstrated is that everyone with "AI" in their bio is a massive fucking lying fraud with no idea what they are talking about.
It's all tw*tter subhumans trying to ride the wave of whatever hype for their own interests. Gullible retards will fall for them.

>> No.15613684

>>15613653
MRIs are not expensive because of the Helium cooling.

>>15613651
Yes. Technology millenarianists.

>> No.15613687

>>15613666
motherfucker switched mode power supplies changed the world. just because they're more efficient they allowed for your faggot ass to afford the device you're posting from.
if this shit pans out to be real it will fucking transform the world. not in 5 years but it fucking will

>> No.15613688

>>15612272
>calculations
what calculations are you talking about, retard?

>>15612293
>>15612345
>muh PhDs
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.15613699

>>15612346
>Voltage = Current/Resistance
/sci/ - Science & Math

>> No.15613715

AI is still more important than this.

>> No.15613720

>>15613715
probably in the grand scheme of things, but this will also accelerate AI if it works

>> No.15613724

>>15613720
no it wont popsci faggot

>> No.15613732

>>15613222
he's the one making up fanfiction stories, retard

>>15612774
>>15612762
>https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV14p4y1V7kS
big if true

>> No.15613733

If this is true how do I make money from it?

>> No.15613738

>>15613733
become yet another twitter grifter, attract attention to yourself from gullible retards and sell them something expensive

>> No.15613766

>>15613724
currently AI development (At least training big models) is bottlenecked by GPUs/chips, in a few years it will probably be bottlenecked by electric power
a room temperature superconductor might help with the first, but will definitely help with the latter

>> No.15613793

>>15613699
Typo but you know what I mean

>> No.15613796

>>15612322
resistance in superconductors is not actually zero retard, it's just exceptionally small. as in, 10^-10 kind of small. please I'm begging you, read a book or something before spraying your diarrhea comments on my vietnamese fishing net weaving forums

>> No.15613812

>>15613796
Nope, it is actually zero.

>> No.15613854

>>15613796
lmao

>> No.15614033

https://twitter.com/lereguy/status/1686363900651151360

second possible replication of diamagnetic effects

>> No.15614047

>>15614033
cgi

>> No.15614126

so, a bunch of videos are coming up showing tiny pieces of LK99 "floating" or at least moving when put near magnets. that's neat

now... new thread when?

>> No.15614134

>>15614126
/sfg/ is staged at page 10 (and so are probably the rest of the generals)
should probably wait for that so the thread doesn't get removed by jannies (which happens occasionally)

>> No.15614153

>>15614126
there are like 5 lk-99 threads already

>> No.15614156

>>15614153
yes, but they are for random subjects

>> No.15614189

>>15614134
aha, ok. I keep forgetting how slow this board is

>>15614153
this is THE general, though

>> No.15614193

>>15614189
exactly, stop making generals if there are 5+ threads about something at any time

>> No.15614203

>no news in several hours
Starting to think it's over. It was too good to be true, anonbros...

>> No.15614206

>>15614193
what kinda logic is that? are you retarded? the point of generals is to tell people to ask in the general instead of making new threads
you don't really seem to belong in this board, or in this whole forum, at all

>> No.15614215

>>15614206
and yet there are 5+ lk-99 threads proving i'm right and jannies are on my side

you are the general schizo living in you own bubble

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>Have a bachelors degree in Chemistry
>All we did in labs was extraction, destillation and some purity yield analysis
>Not once was I told about the possibilites of material science accompanying inorganic chem

Serves me right for choosing organic chemistry as a major I guess

>> No.15614240

>>15614215
>general is on page 9
>THERE ARE OTHER THREADS ON THIS VERY SAME TOPIC!!
I wonder why...

>> No.15614246

>>15614229
you can always pivot

>> No.15614248

>>15614240
>I wonder why...
because there's no need for a dead general, people will keep spamming threads until this thing blows up

>> No.15614249

>>15614246
>>15614229
meaning, do a masters/phd in material science

>> No.15614254

>>15614248
people will keep spamming shit because they are too lazy to search for shit, and jannies don't do their job (for which they get paid $0)

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>>15614248
>General gets to 478 posts by 119 ips
>anon says it's a dead general
This is what a diet of crayons does to a man.

>> No.15614261

>>15614248
its dead because this board is full of tourists now

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https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/15fa6so/we_currently_have_a_sample_of_a_superconductor/

newstory from korea, don't know any korean, but the thing starts at the timestamp

https://www.youtube.com/live/z2738XNrm5Q?feature=share&t=298


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul_Broadcasting_System

>> No.15614284

>>15612233
So why does nobody run nonstop simulation on random combinations of atoms?

>> No.15614290

>>15614284
because there are so many combinations that it would be a waste of time

>> No.15614293

>>15614284
a quantum computer could do that easily, but it's not really worth it with the transistor-based ones (or at least everything that was easy to bruteforce was already brutefforced)

>> No.15614297

>>15614293
Just use chatgpt

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>> No.15614302

>>15614284
>Runs simulation on atoms
>Simulations use highly imperfect models
>Simulations turn up numerous false negatives
>Real researchers try to get funding for some new theoretical material
>Everyone points to the list of simulated materials and says "it's already been tried here, why would we fund you when you're wasting money"
Yeah, I can't see that going wrong at all.
>>15614261
The tourists could only raise the IQ of this board.

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>>15614299
>>15614284
oops

>> No.15614312

>>15614299
no mention of tflops actual vs theoretical so you can simply assume faggot his algorithm would be 100000 times faster if made by a cuda wizard on gpu.
overall a worthless post.

>> No.15614324

>>15614284
there are like 10^60+ practical combinations of atoms

>> No.15614376

>>15614312
Please make that algorithm, then.

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https://twitter.com/condensed_the/status/1686373516286005248

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>>15614379
>moving goalposts

>> No.15614471

bros?

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>>15614471
its over

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>>15614471
we're back

>> No.15614494

>>15614249
I did pivot...into molecular medicine

>> No.15614509

they are talking about the ukraine-russia war in >>15612815
lmao fuck these tourists. what a bunch of fucking retards.

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>>15614509
there's another thread that went to the bump limit discussing religion

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New thread

>>15614626
>>15614626
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>>15611786
LMAO, this proved right:
>- Lastly, these interesting conduction pathways only form when the copper atom percolates into the less likely location in the crystal lattice, or the 'higher energy' binding site. This means the material would be difficult to synthesize since only a small fraction of crystal gets its copper in just the right location.

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>>15614203
It's night in China, that's why it slowed down.
US is doing absolutely nothing to help, and India is as incompetent as ever.
We have to rely on the chinese for this.