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Pretty scary, is there any way we could stop this from happening anymore?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/25/gulf-stream-could-collapse-as-early-as-2025-study-suggests

>The Gulf Stream system could collapse as soon as 2025, a new study suggests. The shutting down of the vital ocean currents, called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Amoc) by scientists, would bring catastrophic climate impacts.

>The new analysis estimates a timescale for the collapse of between 2025 and 2095, with a central estimate of 2050, if global carbon emissions are not reduced. Evidence from past collapses indicate changes of temperature of 10C in a few decades, although these occurred during ice ages.

>Other scientists said the assumptions about how a tipping point would play out and uncertainties in the underlying data are too large for a reliable estimate of the timing of the tipping point. But all said the prospect of an Amoc collapse was extremely concerning and should spur rapid cuts in carbon emissions.

>A collapse of Amoc would have disastrous consequences around the world, severely disrupting the rains that billions of people depend on for food in India, South America and west Africa. It would increase storms and drop temperatures in Europe, and lead to a rising sea level on the eastern coast of North America. It would also further endanger the Amazon rainforest and Antarctic ice sheets.

>The Amoc collapsed and restarted repeatedly in the cycle of ice ages that occurred from 115,000 to 12,000 years ago. It is one of the climate tipping points scientists are most concerned about as global temperatures continue to rise.

>Research in 2022 showed five dangerous tipping points may already have been passed due to the 1.1C of global heating to date, including the shutdown of Amoc, the collapse of Greenland’s ice cap and an abrupt melting of carbon-rich permafrost.

>> No.15587979

Omg let's pay more taxes to prevent that from happening.

>> No.15587982

Only TND can fix global warming

>> No.15587986
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>> No.15587991

>>15587955
We must surrender ourselves to total state control to stop this from killing us.

>> No.15588041

>>15587955
>severely disrupting the rains that billions of people depend on for food in India, South America and west Africa
>people
not my problem

>> No.15588044

This time they mean it guys

>> No.15588059 [DELETED] 

>>15587979
>>15587986
>>15587991
Why can't you retards just stay in /pol/?

>> No.15588064

>>15587979
>>15587982
>>15587986
>>15587991
Thanks, astroturf.

>>15587955
We would need to decarbonize. Not hard, but very unlikely to happen before catastrophe forces us to make changes.

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>>15587955
>Gulf Stream could collapse as early as 2025
GOOD!
That fucking thing causes all sorts of shit. High time it stops!

>> No.15588069

>>15588044
>>15588041
>>15587991
>>15587979
>>15587982
>>15587986
>repeating /pol/ memes instead of properly trying to argue against it
Grim.

>> No.15588071

>>15587955
No species has been more deserving of a slow and painful extinction. Humanity is a meme that isn't funny or entertaining, just sad.

>> No.15588074

>>15588066
Based

>> No.15588076

>>15588064
Not even the most leftist governments have any intention whatsoever of leaving any of their fossil fuel reserves in the ground.

>> No.15588077

>>15588069
back to plebbit, tranny. we have always been chuds on sci

>> No.15588116

>>15588076
Yes, that's the problem.

>> No.15588124

>>15587955
>2 MORE YEARS

>> No.15588131

>>15588077
Well said, I have been here since 2016

>> No.15588147

How would a current in the North Atlantic impact India and Antarctica?

>> No.15588149

>>15588116
The cabal of corporate psychos running the west don't even have any intention of curtailing economic growth (which is growth in the use of energy). They're immune to logic, totally science illiterate, and either literally retarded or completely mad.
I don't blame people one bit when they're skeptical when those idiots say shit like "trust the science". It's fucking laughable.

>> No.15588152

>>15587955
Even we stop pumping co2 right now there's no telling if the warming will stop or not. We're fucked and by we I mean thirdworlders.

>> No.15588165

>>15588152
It's a game of musical chairs. Sooner or later 1st worlds are gonna be the ones finding themselves without anywhere to sit when the music stops.
No worries though lets just keep voting for "growth, prosperity, and jobs".
Seems more and more likely that humanity is nothing more than an energy dissipation system, and once the energy has been dissipated there will be no reason for humanity to exist. Afterall, everyone seems in a big rush to get there as fast as possible - let's all vote for "growth". Fucktard clowns, no better than any other animal.

>> No.15588171

>>15587955
Dont care -50 I can survive but not +50.

>> No.15588175

>>15588165
That's why most people won't listen to you freaks. You care about the climate but not the economy because you're already financially comfortable.

>> No.15588179
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>>15587979
>No, we need all those taxes to wage war on false pretenses to acquire more oil

I don't get you people. When it's 9/11 or threat of WMDs it's lets blow billions on war, remove our freedoms, and turn ourselves into a surveillance state. But when it comes to cleaning up the trash and waste product our society makes it's muh freedoms and muh taxes.

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>>15587955
>Gulf Stream could collapse as early as 2025

You could win the top lottery prize 503 times in a row by 2025... exact same odds!

>> No.15588227

>>15588175
Most people won't listen because they're dumb fucks who can't see any further than their own noses.

>> No.15588270

>>15588175
The "economy" that you clowns basically worship like your fucking god is a basically circle jerk of bloated fuckwits force feeding yourselves your gluttonous feedback loop plus a little bit of serving it all up for the disgusting billionaire you work for so he can hang on his private jet / yahcht. It's a ponzi you're all in.

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>>15588069
>argue
That's what women do. As much as you try, you will never be a woman.

>> No.15588282

>>15588076
>Not even the most leftist governments have any intention whatsoever of leaving any of their fossil fuel reserves in the ground.
Because that is what socialism is all about, exploiting the working class, the poor, and the Earth.
Conservatives try to conserve the planet, leftists just want to exploit it.

>> No.15588287

>>15588165
>when the music stops.
is when cannibalism becomes popular again.
looking forward to killing and eating s o y boys and soft Karen cunts.

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15588295

oy vey the world is coming to an end!!
dis is anuddah shoah !!
we better give all our money to soience or else we gonna die!!!!

>> No.15588296

>>15588069
so how is paying more money to the government supposed to help?
also the people who agree with you are vengeful psychopaths like >>15588071

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>>15588165
The first world is just as vulnerable to climate change as the 3rd world. However we are vulnerable in a different way, since our infrastructure has practically 0 resilience to extreme weather events. Ironically 3rdies being less developed works in their favor, since you can build mud huts in a matter of weeks vs years.

>> No.15588328

>>15588179
I'm against both. Taxation is theft and the federal government should only exist to help negotiate interstate commerce and create a national defense (NOT international offense).

>> No.15588332

>>15588296
just because you're not capable of understanding the math doesn't make it untrue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Georgescu-Roegen
The species was warned about the ponzi economy, the fact that non-renewable resources are non-renewable, and impending extinction by people significantly smarter than average and those people were soundly ignored. They deserve whatever they get.
>abiotic oil
LOL

>> No.15588333

>>15588326
>oh nooooooo a tornado trashed our warehouse and now we have to write off all our losses and charge people 5 times more for drugs whatever will we dooooooooooo

>> No.15588337

>>15588326
True. People who live in poverty are far better adapted to reverting to more neolithic conditions.

>> No.15588352

This tard's posts read exactly like garbage I read telling me the medical system was twoo weeks from collapse back in 2020 and 2021

>> No.15588353

>>15588333
Realistically the amount of money they're going to lose from having to reconstruct everything is going to be way, way more than what they could recoup from elevated prices. Shit looks absolutely trashed.

The world probably isn't going to end, there will be no "big collapse". However the extreme weather will force people to reexamine everything, particularly in America. I find it funny they're building a silicon chip factory in Texas, when you know what silicon chips require? Water, and metric fuck ton of it. You know what climate change will do? cause drought. Taiwan already had to severely restrict CPU production for a while because of a drought, we may even be at "peak computer", as in it's probably downhill for world chip production from here.

>> No.15588375

>>15588353
>You know what climate change will do? cause drought.
Walk me through this logic.
>global warming causes ocean temperatures to rise
>this increases evaporation
>increased evaporation causes more frequent and worse rain showers and thunderstorms
>also more frequent, more violent hurricanes that travel further inland
>rising air temperatures melt glaciers into the ocean and lakes causing them to rise and providing more water to evaporate into the atmosphere
>this will cause droughts and make everyone run out of water

>> No.15588388

>>15588353
>Texas, when you know what silicon chips require? Water, and metric fuck ton of it.
>Texas, a state with a huge ocean border. >"There's no water in the ocean!"

>> No.15588391

>>15588375
Because like you said
>>this increases evaporation
Rain falls more but it evaporates away faster

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>>15588375
>Walk me through this logic.
Climate cultists are schizos and tards.
That's why the believe the big rich 1% Jewish lie.
Pointing out the idiocy of their "climate change" is like trying to point out the idiocy of organized religion to cultists. They just pout and get mad.

>> No.15588395

>>15588391
kek good one

>> No.15588400

>>15588391
Then why will it cause the oceans, lakes, and rivers to rise?

>> No.15588407

>>15588400
You are going to make that A.I. bots microprocessor explode and melt like an EV.

>> No.15588416

>>15587955
>between 2025 and 2095
so anywhere between 2 years or 70 years. What did the study provide exactly? Wasn't the consensus already that this would happen sometime this century?

>> No.15588434

>>15587955
I don't believe scientists.

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15588547

Amoc is based it will save us and doom all third world with a collapse

>> No.15588562

>>15588434
>I don't believe scientists.
thread/

>> No.15588607

>>15588326
First world people are also much more fragile, especially those living in the cities. It doesn't take much to freak these people out, like running out of toilet paper or losing their smartphones. These are the same people that scream like banshees about global warming.

>> No.15588700

>lead to a rising sea level on the eastern coast of North America
Only on the eastern coast of North America? How does that work?

>> No.15588701

>>15588179
>But when it comes to cleaning up the trash and waste product our society makes it's muh freedoms and muh taxes.
because that doesnt solve shit, retard
the solution to climate change is genocide, there is no other way to prevent it other than getting rid of 80% of the global population
you should be asking for MORE of your taxes to be spent on war, not less

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>>15588700
>the sea level rise meme
plainly not happening
because global warming is just a stupid hoax that only mentally ill or low iq people think is true

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>>15588296
The human cancer will soon be wiped out and it might happen in my lifetime which is very exciting. I am looking forward to all the wars over ever more scarce resources

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>>15587955
>2025 and 2095

>> No.15588818

>>15588069
>distribute dog shit talking points
>get dog shit responses
come up with better propaganda.

>> No.15588820
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I want to go see la mer de glace before it's gone. I recently visited the columbia icefield and it was sad just how far the glaciers had receded.

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>>15588547
>only lactose tolerant whites will be able to survive.
>total migrant death
nature is healing.

>> No.15588850

>>15588820
norwooding hard

>> No.15588865

I don't know what this means

>> No.15589294

>>15588795
God I hate boomers

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>>15588850
>nwording hard

>> No.15589430

>>15587979
fpbp

>> No.15589448

>>15588328
>national defense (NOT international offense)
guess what retard there is not one without the other

>> No.15589466

>>15588547
How is this amoc thing bad? the earth just gets a little colder isn't that what we want?

>> No.15589476

>>15589448
>noooo we HAVE to invade desert goatfucker countries to steal their oil to protect ourselves!!!
You're the retard.

>> No.15590139

>>15588179
>I don't get you people.
You're right, you have absolutely zero fucking clue what you're talking about.

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>>15587955
Do climate change predictive models ever factor in the collapse of the gulf stream? Wouldn't it eventually dampen the effects of climate change in Europe and, to a lesser extent, in North America?

>> No.15590189

>>15587979

NO - let's bring back the Fetal Alcohol Syndrome Swede retard who sneers and insults at the request of the leadership of the UN.

How dar UUUUUÛÜÚŪÚ

>> No.15590223

>>15588701
Fun fact: You're not going to be in the 20 % of people who are allowed to live.

>> No.15590258

>>15587986
Do you retards have a reading disability or something?
>entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels
>if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000
It doesn't say "they will be wiped off by the year 2000", it says "we have to do something by the year 2000, or they will be wiped off one day".
Like, I'm ESL and even I understand this sentence. Is the mutt education system really this desolate that you retards can't even read your own language? How embarrassing.

At least you didn't encircle the jewish surname. Would have been too much, huh? Can't convince Facebook boomers if it's too obvious where you come from.

Also what's up with your shitty pixelated jpegs all the time? Afraid that the kikes are hiding in lossless image formats?

>> No.15590264

>>15588171
The plants you're eating don't survive either.

>> No.15590274
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>>15588718
>what are tides?

>> No.15590283

>>15590181
It would cause even more extreme weather events especially storm winds due to the larger difference in temperatures. And it's either +4 degrees or -10 degrees. Basically instead of global warming you get European cooling. Both cause agriculture to pretty much collapse.
The threat of climate change isn't that you'll freeze to death or die from a heatstroke (except you're a 85+ boomer, who absolutely deserve it), it's that you'll starve. We can't feed 500 million Europeans, let alone 8 billion people worldwide, on an agriculture that only works sporadically, if at all.

>> No.15590296

>>15587955
Hopefully it happens sooner, I like interesting times

>> No.15590307

>>15590264
-50 winters are fine because dry beans are stored on a shelf indoors. +50 kills the crop in the field.

>> No.15590314

>>15588375
Climate change disrupts local precipitation patterns, which means some areas will indeed get more frequent and worse rain, while others will experience longer and more severe droughts. In some areas, it will reduce snowfall and melt snowcaps earlier, which will reduce available water later in the warm period. Also, during droughts water will be even more precious, leading to shortages for farming, human consumption, and whatever else. You will reach a point of diminishing returns, where so much water falls in one place you can't make use of it, while other places get no water. So, you will have to figure out how to transport water hundreds or thousands of miles from wet areas to dry areas with minimal or no losses along the way. And it will be quite expensive, I imagine.

Another issue is you can't grow food just anywhere, and you can't just move fields of wheat and corn wherever at the drop of a hat. Not to mention the industrial architecture involved. It will be a long-term logistical nightmare that will cause food quality to drop, availability to be reduced, and prices to skyrocket. There may also be a period of time where neither the wet areas nor the dry areas are good for farming, which could lead to massive shortages of food.

>> No.15590317

>>15590274
cope

>> No.15590322

>>15587955
If you read the paper they do say this but all of their data has huge uncertainties so their prediction is not that good.

>> No.15590375

>>15588332
>those people were soundly ignored
That's not really true. People took it seriously in the 80s. Bush Sr. took it seriously. We were literally cucked by historical accident and then it became political.

>> No.15590559 [DELETED] 

>>15590223
You're avoiding the uncomfortable true that Earth has a population limit.

>> No.15590564

>>15587979
We did that for several decades and doesn't work. We should sacrifice a 1000 liberals in the great pyramid just in case that works.

>> No.15590571

>>15590274
Those politicians went there just in time for the high tide, and still they failed to get a picture showing any increase in sea level.

>> No.15590688

>>15590258
Oh, now you care about nuance? Climate scientists never claimed that their climate change theory is 100% factual.

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>the gulf stream will come to a halt in two weeks

>> No.15590731

>>15590721
Can you rephrase this in your own words? I think you might not understand what's written there.

>> No.15590751

Yet it didn't stop during the roman and medieval warm periods that were both much warmer than now?

>> No.15590753
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>>15590731

>> No.15590761

>>15590753
source?

>> No.15590812

>>15590731
He and the rest of the big oil nuthuggers who post it read it as her saying that the world would end 5 years from that tweet. Common american education issue.

>> No.15590958

>>15590322
This
If the climate cultists hadn't wasted their credibility on hyperbolic doomsday predictions (some of which have already passed) and shilling green energy scams that are much less cost effective and frankly ineffectual to current oil gas, and NUCLEAR energy then maybe we could make actual progress. Japan is on the forefront of hydrogen energy, but there are retards itt that will insist windmills and lithium batteries will save us

>> No.15591113

>>15590812
Guess it's too late then.

>> No.15591134

>>15587955
kys

>> No.15591356

>>15590958
So more of the same then right?
K thx, keep me posted.

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>>15587955
>Gulf Stream could collapse as early as 2025
>Pretty scary, is there any way we could stop this from happening anymore?
>study-suggests
2 more weeks

>> No.15591365

>>15590958
>The climate cultists are preventing us from making actual progress on dealing with climate change!!! :0
Um ya.. you're a fucking moron k thx, bye now

>> No.15591369

>>15591365
Who are you quoting?

Your cult has replaced all real environmental concerns.

>> No.15591386

>>15591369
I'm paraphrasing you you fucktard
That's how greentext works.
Figure it out, that is if you're capable of understanding things, if not you can just sit therea and fucking drool for all i care

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>>15591386
>>15591365
>fuck fuck fuck fuck
reminds me of a clucking chicken
why are redditiers so profane?
just makes them look like out of control emotional basket cases

>> No.15591403

>>15591394
well that's because they ARE out of control emotional basket cases. I would add that they're also useless manchildren

>> No.15591429

>>15588059
>>15588069
Is /pol/ in the room with us?

>> No.15591576

>>15590812
>>15591113
>climate change will wipe out humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next 5 years
This is a clear, absolute statement. We didn't stop using fossil fuels and humanity is nowhere near to being wiped out.

>> No.15591653

>>15587979
Fpbp

>> No.15591675

>>15591365
>>15591356
Please tell me how subsidizing shitty electric cars is better for the environment than investing in hydrogen

>> No.15591703

>>15588175
Muh economy is what got us into this mess in the first place. The goal of infinite growth has completely fucked the environment, resources are scarce, these fuckers love to mention it, yet the system is defined by MORE.

>> No.15591958

>>15591576
It doesn’t say Climate Change will wipe us out in Five years. It says that unless we stop in Five years, Climate Change will wipe us out.

>> No.15591971

>>15588059
>implying /pol/ is ever wrong
It just eats you up that someone you consider yourself smarter than is always right and you're always wrong. One day you will admit that actually you're a midwit.

>> No.15592058

>>15588282
> Conservatives try to conserve the planet
I have never met any Conservative who ever gave the tiniest shit about the environment. Universally they have been “Drill baby drill!” and “Coal good! Solar bad!”. Worship of the oil and gas industry is a defining trait of conservatives the world over.

>> No.15592089

>>15591971
Sure, worry about your tax dollars and buy gold. Meanwhile they’ve recorded hot tub temperatures in the water off the Florida close, and desert vegetation is dying because it’s too fucking hot and and dry.

We’re looking at agriculture collapse in the next decade, and with it human civilization.

>> No.15592171

>>15590958
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post. I only said the uncertainties in the paper's data are too large.

>> No.15592179

>>15591675
Please tell me house investing in electric cars is better for the environment than subsidizing shitty hydrogen

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>>15592089
The bloated fucktard CONSUUUUUUUMERS deserve everything they get.
In other news, the grand champion of the hotdog eating contest is a real "winner". The perfect metaphor for our tardclown meme civilization.

>> No.15592194

>>15592089
This is the plan. If humanity could have changed by now it would, but we lack consciousness, like zombies mindlessly following how civilization directs us. Ironic how science output has slowed down, yet we pray for cold fusion now more than ever.

The only and final solution is for us to permanently kneecap ourselves. Let everything get so bad that it collapses and civilization no longer even has the capability to use fossil fuels. Perhaps it will be a good lesson for future generations: dont burn the black rocks.

>> No.15592202

>>15592194
The fact that Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen did not get the Nobel prize in economics, and William Nordhaus did tells you all you need to know about the people running this ponzi scheme of a civilization. People who are significantly smarter than average warned us repeatedly about the dangers of unrestrained exponential economic growth, and those people were systematically ridiculed, sidelined and ignored. Humanity had one chance at avoid extinction and squandered it because NOM NOM NOM feels good. It would be sad if it weren't exactly what we deserve.

>> No.15592203

https://youtu.be/sC31Z5ckros

>> No.15592207

>>15592179
Fuck electric cars, we should have been focused on public transportation and walkable cities.

>> No.15592209

>>15592089
>>15592194
The point being that while humans have nigh unlimited ability to use fossil fuels, other resources will get bottlenecked before any human extinction level event occurs. Manufacturing, building houses and buildings, agriculture, all of that requires other resources, water and people. What will happen when nobody wants to work construction because that'd mean facing deadly heat daily? Or when agriculture and manufacturing face massive water shortages? Inflation, mass depopulation of swaths of the planet as structures are destroyed, cant be rebuilt and people have to move. We've had a chip shortage for what? 3 years at this point? Sounds about right to me.

Basically expect everything to recede back into the past.

>> No.15592223

>>15592089
Too bad those measurements can't be replicated just like most climate "science."

>> No.15592241

>>15592202
It'll be hilarious when every citizen of America realizes it's failed. I wonder what the Romans were thinking when they saw their civilization collapse. At least this means globalism will die and probably never return.

>> No.15592361

>>15592223
I take some solace in the fact you won’t avoid what’s coming either.

>> No.15592426

>>15588059
>>15588069
Recognising the climate is being used as an excuse to expand the reach of government even further is not /'pol/', stop simping for psychopaths who hate you.

>> No.15592484

>>15592207
>public transportation
reasonable

>walkable cities
delusional urbanite decoration pasted over a problem that exists outside of cities and largely because of cities (you do know the walkable grocer has food delivered from elsewhere... right?). in typical urbanite fashion, all it does is export the problem. the modern city - whether walkable or not - is the most unsustainable thing humanity has ever created, and the lack of object permanence within the minds of their residents is going to fucking doom us all

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>>15587979
I say just cut the heads of 1000 leftist "scientists" so those fuckers stop pulling shit out of their assholes. Those animals only understand violence.

>> No.15592525

>>15592202
It will revert to normal that is flaying, mutilation, cannibalism, slavery, rape and plunder every day. Is going to be lots of fun for the smart and strong as always.

>> No.15592526

>>15592484
That aside, walkable cities is obviously a way to stop people traveling as much or making it so they can be tracked while they do. That's another reason cities suck, constant surveillance. People should be able to live their lives without the government having any idea where they are or what they're doing.

>> No.15592812

So basically this will make the climate cooler, so how exactly is this a bad thing?

>> No.15592850

>>15587955
I am fully in favour of Europe becoming too cold for the foreign hordes, to the point where they voluntarily leave. Is there any way we can accelerate this, or make it more severe?

>> No.15592851

>>15587955
>Climate change!
>Must cut carbon!
>So give ME all your money!
Fuck off. Also the guardian? Are you fucking serious?! I can't imagine a less credible source.

>> No.15592853

>>15591958

I understand. So when WILL it wipe us out then?

>> No.15592867

>>15592812
It just is okay??

>> No.15592877

>>15590283

What does "starving" even mean? Considering the global food waste, not to mention the grotesque caloric surplus that Westerners suffer from, a "collapse" of the food supply chain (a deliberately ridiculous idea, regardless) could even be beneficial.

>> No.15592882

>>15590283
who's "we"?

>> No.15592894

>>15588069
Tbf, they used the "reduce carbon emissions" meme like 3 times in the abstract despite the fact that it's batshit insane to expect any reasonable emissions reduction proposal to reverse things in 30 years.

>> No.15592903
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15592903

>could
>collapse

JUST 2 MORE WEEKS BRO!

>> No.15592934

>>15591675
Hydrogen is a shitty meme you fucking zoomer
it just mangles any tank you put it in, and is a byproduct of fossil fuel extraction
No you can't get it from water, the energy required is vastly more than what you'd get from the hydrogen itself
if you're prying hydrogen from sea water, its cause you have cheap fusion energy-- the real actual solution to the climate issue

>> No.15592943

>>15592877
Anon, do you think farming is just dumping seeds on the ground and having the grown crops teleport to the grocer?
There is a gargantuan supply chain involved, with shitloads of inputs and processing, plus all the transport between
additionally, life is not a fucking video game, soil quality matters a fucking lot
most of the cropland used in africa right now is only viable at all due to extensive fertilizer inputs, an input that is already heavily strained since Russia and Belarus were the world's primary exporters before the sanctions

A collapse of the food supply chain in much of the world is absolutely possible, and will happen if the oil supply chain takes a shit and cripples the ability to transport shit
It'll be africans and chinese dying, and this will spawn the largest migrant waves the world has ever fucking seen.

>> No.15592978

>>15591958
Well since we didn’t listen and we’re certainly going to be dead in the future - Let’s keep going as we are and see what happens.

>> No.15594822

>Who cares if the gulf stream collapses? It will only freeze the only remaining white nations on the planet
Good lord, /pol/ brain has to be the worst affliction in the modern era.
Imagine sitting there, believing that you're fighting against the lying elite while actively regurgitating lies from oil tycoons that destroy white nations for profit

>> No.15594930

>>15594822
wow good thing the planet is warming!!! That will prevent the deep freeze :)!

>> No.15594945

>>15594930
>I'm a fucking gorilla retard, I don't understand that complex systems exist, everything hot or cold, unga bunga
You weren't alive during apartheid, you really shouldn't be this hung up over it

>> No.15594955

>>15594945
uhhhh cletus are you a global warming denier? .

>> No.15594971

>>15594945
You admit the climate is a very complex system yet you don't question all the people constantly screaming alarmist predictions (that never come true) and demanding money and authoritarian legislation? Curious

>> No.15594988

>>15594971
I gotta question if Europe is being BOILED and the globe is overall heating up, wouldn't it be a good thing for a major heat source to go away? Like a good ol re-twistin of the hot and cold valves on a sink. :)!

>> No.15597267

>>15587955
>as-early-as-2025
Too weasly.
I say that if we don't have an utter and unequivocal collapse in 2025, that hypothesis should be deemed stone cold dead and each and everyone who made that claim should have their grants taken.

>> No.15597364

>>15588069
The saddest words of tongue or pen, /pol/ was right again

>> No.15597391

>>15587955
>A collapse of Amoc would have disastrous consequences around the world, severely disrupting the rains that billions of people depend on for food in India, South America and west Africa.
How can I help making it happen sooner?

>> No.15597425

>>15587955
>would increase storms and drop temperatures in Europe
Cool I'm fucking tired of all year being hot as fuck in Spain. Hope I get to live this year-round winter, how do I contribute to the gulf stream collapse?

>> No.15597530

>>15597425
It is not even year long. We would get New York tier weather while the rest of Europe becomes Canada. Pretty comfy ifbyou ask me

>> No.15597682

>>15587955
>The Gulf Stream system could collapse

how ? isnt the gulfstream not about earth rotation or so ???

>> No.15597709

>>15587955
>as soon as 2025
Why not 2024?

>2025-2095, central estimate of 2050
why tho?

If you think the gulf stream is to collapse you should be able to say what season you think it will be and what triggers would cause it. Instead we just have this gay fear porn.

All they have to say is: "most likely to happen on an el nina year in the northern fall if a bunch of fresh water intrusion from too much rain fucks everything up"
that's a testable model.

>> No.15597833

>>15587955
>could
monkeys could start flying out of my ass any minute

>> No.15598100

>>15590274
you can literally see the high tide extent in both pictures and they are the exact same you absolute fucking mong
and in case you're too retarded to get it: it's the spot where most of the floatsam/trash is laying around

>> No.15598105

>>15587979
FPBP!

>> No.15598112

>>15590258
Retard, we DIDN'T reverse it by 2000.
In other words, there's no point in even trying now.
But your bullshit cult keeps moving the date of the end of the world.

>> No.15598124
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>>15588820
>I want to go see la mer de glace before it's gone. I recently visited the columbia icefield and it was sad just how far the glaciers had receded.
We know they have been receding steadily for hundreds of years—since the end of the little ice age, in fact, long before we were releasing any significant amounts of greenhouse gasses.

You weren't told this because it undermines their doomsday-cult agenda of taking all your money and all your freedom.

>> No.15598128

>>15598112
"Maybe there was something we could have done but it's too late now". No, just because things will assuredly get bad because nothing was done in the past does not mean things will not get even worse if we do nothing now.

>> No.15598133

>>15598128
Or, a far simpler explanation is that it's all bullshit and always was.

>> No.15598144

>>15598128
"wipe out all humanity" is a pretty clear prediction.

>> No.15598176

>>15598144
"Entire nations", not humanity, and "could" not "will". That said, we are very much on course for entire nations being wiped, though not any most people care about.

>> No.15600158

>>15598128
please explain what you believe is going to happen. Explain the mechanism of action of those happenings. If possible, give evidence that backs up those mechanisms and happenings.

Above all, give a verdict on why government should intervene in the free market. If so, explain why.

>> No.15600739

>>15592484
>>public transportation
>reasonable

Reasonable only if they keep cities safe from crime.

>> No.15600820

>>15598176
what nations?

>> No.15600888
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>>15600820
Tiny island nations with populations measured in the tens of thousands. Most exist primarily for their Economic Exclusion Zones, which they lease out to major powers like the U.S. and China. If they end up permanently underwater, those EEZs become open to everyone instead of just whoever the dependent nation leased them out to.

>> No.15600903

>>15598176
Greta predicted all of humanity, which is what anons are calling out.

>> No.15600905

>>15600888
name one

>> No.15600930

>>15600905
are you retarded, look at the image

>> No.15601577
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>Hyperborea 2: Electric Boogaloo
Seriously speaking, it kinda scares me.

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>>15598112
>In other words, there's no point in even trying now.
>cut your finger
>why even bother putting a band aid on? I'll bleed out anyway
The absolute state of this board

>> No.15602474

>>15588179
Not a single person has said this

>> No.15602490

European here, gonna start eating more beans so I fart more, gulf stream collapsing may be the only thing that can prevent Europe from becoming African majority
Also I wanna build a snowman with my kids but it doesnt snow in France

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>>15587955

>> No.15602523

>>15588069
If you spam the /sci/ence board with /pol/ threads then you're going to get /pol/ replies

>> No.15602561

>>15587955
retard