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/sfg/ - Spaceflight General Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:28:16 2023 No.15584090 [Reply] [Original]

Finishing touches - edition

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:30:56 2023 No.15584094 File: 1.66 MB, 1287x769, 004901.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Newfags watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE1A6T1cycU

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:35:32 2023 No.15584102 >>15584094 Buy an ad Tim

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:36:28 2023 No.15584103 File: 14 KB, 587x637, estrojak2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584094 >estronaut ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:37:03 2023 No.15584105 File: 30 KB, 656x679, IMG_2251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hate flame trenches.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:50:07 2023 No.15584136 >>15584105 He can't be stopped

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 07:55:39 2023 No.15584141 the great filter is billionaires always go through their howard hughes ending phase

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:00:13 2023 No.15584149
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https://twitter.com/TitterDaily/status/1683263009567719424

>INSIGHT: Here's what Elon told Isaacson in the days just before the Twitter acquisition closed last October.

>Of note, this confirms Elon was planning a complete rebrand and renaming to X from the start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:02:36 2023 No.15584152 >>15584149 yeah we knew this...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:03:06 2023 No.15584153 >>15584149 This has all been made clear since atleast January. He said this multiple times. Must be a plutoposter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:03:55 2023 No.15584154 >>15584141 Washington Post is on pace to lose $100 million this year, same as last year. Bezos can't launch a rocket either, BO is a massive failure. Dude should've stuck to selling chinky trinkets, thats all he knows how to do

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:07:24 2023 No.15584156

>>15584154
All billionaires always have one massivd fucking cash cow and the rest are flops. With Elon, it was Boring and Neuralink that failed, Twitter seems to be next through not much fault of his own to be honest (thing was already deep in the shitter).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:10:03 2023 No.15584161 >>15584156 I should clarify, failed to be massive successes on par with or really even close to the previous cash cow. Most end up staying afloat somehow

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:14:09 2023 No.15584169 Still not installing x or spotify

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:17:06 2023 No.15584171 >>15584156 Boring improved Tesla sales in Tesla's most important sales market. Boring turns a profit for Musk. You gotta be smart enough to look at the big picture to see whats really going on

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:17:51 2023 No.15584172

>>15584156
boring and neuralink have not failed you retard, they were started relatively recently
Boring is in the process of digging a massive network of tunnels under las vegas and the initial tunnel is already succesful
neuralink is about to start human trials and it seems like they were able to replicate the results of previous research quite rapidly (people say this as a criticism but it shows that they can move rapidly, novel research comes later)

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:22:25 2023 No.15584176
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>>15584156
The biggest fizzle is SolarCity or Tesla Solar since that is an actual launched product. Maybe you are disappointed with the lack of results compared to the hype with Boring or Neuralink. They don't however claim to have any final products in the market.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:31:31 2023 No.15584182 File: 28 KB, 682x388, musk lyle lanley.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > tier-1's seething when you point out the feet of clay never gets old

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:32:05 2023 No.15584183 >>15584156 Fuck off retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:34:55 2023 No.15584187 >>15584182 what an idiotic picture

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:41:22 2023 No.15584196 https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1683271240679579648

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 08:49:40 2023 No.15584208

>>15584176
"By market share" isn't the most useful metric without knowing the market size. If you went by market share alone you could deceive people into thinking demand for Teslas is shrinking. That said, Tesla's solar stuff isn't particularly successful in their investor reports either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:10:36 2023 No.15584229 >>15584208 They are retarded with their meme aesthetic gorillion dollar tiles. Should have just gone all in on cheap regular panels.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:16:17 2023 No.15584233

>>15584229
they sell those too, its just that its not a very high margin business with high labour costs complicated with building codes that differ everywhere, some places have net metering and others don't
not really sure what is the limiting factor to affordability here, maybe very cheap batteries? you would still have high labour costs, complicated regulations
optimus bot might change this I guess but its going to change everything if it works

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:22:45 2023 No.15584241 >>15584233 Solar companies are raking it right now, granted a lot of it is due to government paypig subsidies but thats Elons field of expertise. Shit is embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:31:46 2023 No.15584255 File: 716 KB, 720x977, 1617308390293.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584154

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:56:01 2023 No.15584284 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqCHwg22tNU Dreamchaser is better than SpaceX Dragon and even Starship for some jobs! Here's why.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 09:59:49 2023 No.15584290 >>15584284 This guy has the worst voice ever, how can anyone listen to him for more than 30 seconds.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 10:27:07 2023 No.15584331

>>15584208
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't they stop bothering with solar as a major product because they needed to instead figure out how to keep their margins in the Model 3 healthy and bring the truck to market? We can see how they were able to diversify the applications of their major product (the cars) by selling people and cities battery packs since they have to build those anyway as part of their manufacturing process. Solar panels? Not so much.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 10:29:52 2023 No.15584334

>>15584331
I think part of that is down to the sheer volatility of the energy market. They make good margin when they get big orders for megapacks, but it's the least stable or predictable of Tesla's business sectors. Between that and the aforementioned need to scale up the auto industry parts and other large capex efforts like building out their next generation battery cells, focusing on solar would be a poor use of strategic resources.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 10:50:03 2023 No.15584353 >>15584331 >Solar panels? Not so much It's one of the most massively booming industries on the planet right now. For a self proclaimed solar shill, the muskrat sucks shit at capturing the market for some unknown reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 11:51:18 2023 No.15584418 File: 774 KB, 850x472, 1684809204739885.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you dadream about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:02:57 2023 No.15584433 File: 103 KB, 2486x1914, 1681699835934283.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584418 martian landscape: the roggs and the landmarks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:03:07 2023 No.15584434 >>15584418 >dad ream What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:19:49 2023 No.15584466 File: 74 KB, 965x647, shuttle et srb base.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 12:34:44 2023 No.15584487 File: 197 KB, 2512x1682, pen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584418 For me, it was pretending pens were Atlases, and the cap was the "stage-and-a-half" with the engines falling off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:14:40 2023 No.15584556 >>15584418 Currently unreachable places in space like deep underground in icy moons or exoplanets in general. Speed of light is a fucking bitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:20:07 2023 No.15584564 File: 1.09 MB, 1282x762, 004934.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEcEfbCkYxw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:31:01 2023 No.15584575 >>15582642 Oh shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:41:46 2023 No.15584594 >>15584466 So was this image made on a computer? Or was it done by hand for a slide projector or something? I’m not too sure how physical graphic design like this was done before computers

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:52:25 2023 No.15584606
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>>15584418
>>15584487
there's this thing in Planetes that's supposed to be spaceship going from the Station to the Lunar city.
But it's obviously a flip phone and I HATE it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:54:56 2023 No.15584608 >>15584606 >he doesn’t like taking the motorola ferry to the lunar city ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 13:59:38 2023 No.15584613 File: 3.46 MB, 1906x1174, AF80307C-1113-4E20-9855-FEA64465B0C3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584433 Here ya go

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:06:45 2023 No.15584619 >>15584606 anime is anime I got burned for the last time with the ending speech to honneamise. For better or worse, they just don't take themselves seriously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:08:48 2023 No.15584624 >>15584613 Thank you anon, this is an excellent rogg.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:14:08 2023 No.15584635 File: 706 KB, 1920x1080, atacama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584433

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:18:06 2023 No.15584640 >>15584635 Crumbly earth rocks are no good, too young looking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:18:58 2023 No.15584643 >>15584635 wow, mars is so pretty. I hope I can go there some day

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:31:17 2023 No.15584666 wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIJAT-R_JX8

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:32:55 2023 No.15584669

https://spacenews.com/chinas-casic-to-begin-launching-vleo-satellites-in-december/

seems like china is doing a sat constellation, it's in VLEO (seems expensive: 300 satellites that get thrown away pretty quickly). I remember reading something about interrupting starlink service with a lower altitude constellation, and I think this is probably what they're actually interested in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:46:32 2023 No.15584695 File: 111 KB, 1333x534, STAR, the Space Technology and Research Vehicle star-cutaway.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584666 Here you go Satan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:48:43 2023 No.15584700 >>15584666 Hazegrayart always posting that wild shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:50:45 2023 No.15584703 >>15584695 Put some auto cannons on it or a compact particle accelerator and boom, instant space interceptor

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 14:59:53 2023 No.15584722 >>15584156 only a gigaretard would buy fucking twitter. only a teraretard would buy twitter and change its name. might as well set it on fire and shoot the shareholders. it's on par with fucking zuck and the meta retardation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:01:41 2023 No.15584729 >>15584666 The music, the sabotage, so delightful

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:01:59 2023 No.15584731 >>15584722 nah x on mars baby

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:11:59 2023 No.15584746
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Cool, here are a bunch of ~20 ft diameter boulders that were knocked off Dimorphos after DART’s collision. This photo was taken by hubble about four months after the impact

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:13:24 2023 No.15584749 >>15584746 we need to build some sundial nukes for planetary defense

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:14:02 2023 No.15584751

what do we think the testing schedule will look like at starbase in the next few weeks?
I don't think they're going to do a spin prime or static fire before they fill the current batch of rebar with concrete, which I expect to happen some time this week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:20:57 2023 No.15584761 >>15584751 I imagine SP and SF towards the end of September, flight attempt on October 14th

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:22:37 2023 No.15584765 >>15584751 a spin prime is possible isn't it?

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:29:02 2023 No.15584775

>>15584487
remember when everyone was calling the skinny Falcon 9 a "space pencil"? Totally a missed swag opportunity, selling actual pencils with Falcon 9 livery, with an eraser shaped like the engine bay and a pencil topper shaped like the payload fairing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:30:34 2023 No.15584780 >>15584761 so they're just gonna sit on their asses for all of august?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:34:32 2023 No.15584786 >>15584780 From our point of view yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:40:27 2023 No.15584801 i wish roketgirls were real

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:57:47 2023 No.15584831 >>15584669 wouldnt it be simpler to drone bomb anything that squeaks in a wrong frequency

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 15:59:51 2023 No.15584837 >>15584751 Your skipping ahead. There's still a puppet shows with courts and faa to go through

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:04:04 2023 No.15584841 >>15584780 Yes Musk is now too enamored with [math]\unicode{x1D54F}[/math]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:07:01 2023 No.15584847 >>15584841 It's really too bad that the Space Exploration Technologies Corporation grinds to a halt when one guy spends time on social media

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:07:59 2023 No.15584850 >>15584847 This but unironically

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:08:07 2023 No.15584851 >>15584841 the concrete isnt going to cure any faster whether musk runs around boca chica or not shotwell is already there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:12:56 2023 No.15584857 >>15584418 War

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:20:42 2023 No.15584867 >>15584841 >[math]\unicode{x1D54F}[/math] Unicode consortium is actively enabling facism with this symbol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:33:42 2023 No.15584882 >>15584867 You can download a chrome addin that turns all mentions of the twitter X into a penis

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:36:25 2023 No.15584890 >>15584882 you would like that wouldn't you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:37:55 2023 No.15584894 >>15584890 yeah cuz musk is a dickhead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:41:38 2023 No.15584900 >>15584894 not only are you fag but you are dumb as a brick

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:46:21 2023 No.15584905 File: 145 KB, 629x354, 1679828804267320.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] newfags out, any tendertoe acolytes, common sense schizos or sierra club cultists can leave as well.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:48:30 2023 No.15584907
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Yet another piece to add to the elusive study of Jupiter’s magnetosphere. When radiation bombards Jupiter’s moons, water can be converted to oxygen, ozone, and hydrogen peroxide. It is well-known that hydrogen peroxide is produced near the equator on Europa. But JWST data recently showed H2O2 on Ganymede is really only produced near the Jupiter-facing side of the north pole. Such interesting geochemistry

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:48:37 2023 No.15584908 >>15584905 get off 4chan, you're sick

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:49:59 2023 No.15584911 >>15584907 Isn't that a rocket fuel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:50:19 2023 No.15584912 In the next starship flight we stunt on bezos and those chinks muh niggas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:50:50 2023 No.15584914 File: 114 KB, 1000x1000, 1682976861817417.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584908 take your own advice

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:54:47 2023 No.15584918 >>15584911 If i remember right it was one of the early rocket fuels, used on V2s I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:57:02 2023 No.15584922 >>15584918 V2s were ethanol.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 16:58:10 2023 No.15584924

>>15584911
Yes, it can be used as a monopropellant with a catalyst or as an oxidizer with some other type of fuel. It’s not used too much these days because hypergolics such as hydrazine offer better impulse density, and are just as dangerous to handle as aerospace-grade peroxide

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:03:17 2023 No.15584933
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>>15584918
>>15584924
https://space.stackexchange.com/a/49216

>Armadillo Aerospace attempted to use both 90% hydrogen peroxide and later switched to hydrogen peroxide (50% concentration in water) and methanol as a mixed monopropellant for their vehicle.

>My internet-fan memories were that, at least with the 90% solution, they were having severe problems getting a consistent burn and tried many catalyst and injector configurations until they stopped being able to get 90%. Their blog and website appears to have disappeared

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:05:54 2023 No.15584936 >>15584933 I will always bow to Carmack

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:12:23 2023 No.15584948 File: 777 KB, 2160x3840, Snapchat-1585342421.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584922 Based I like to add atleast 77.6% to my gasoline.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:15:16 2023 No.15584952
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When i said you can scoop up the methane from titan all the disbelieving naysayers said there's no oxidizer
Now allah (pbuh) in his infinite wisdom reveal to us there's oxidizer in ganymede
The astral signs cannot be any more clearer than this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:18:57 2023 No.15584957 >>15584952 On Titan, water/ice behaves like magma/rock. Plenty of oxidizer everywhere (oxygen)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:20:00 2023 No.15584959 will HLS have rtgs? for the extended surface stay will panels be enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:23:09 2023 No.15584965 >>15584959 the what now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:24:16 2023 No.15584968 >>15584959 HLS itself will not, no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:24:32 2023 No.15584969 >>15584959 but it's not going to be making any extended surface stays

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:25:49 2023 No.15584972 >>15584965 power I mean how will HLS get power on the surface LM used batteries, ~77kwh total

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:28:34 2023 No.15584979 blue origin should have named their lunar lander "grey destination"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:29:57 2023 No.15584983 >>15584979 grey? this is america boy, we say 'gray'

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:31:24 2023 No.15584985 >>15584983 grae

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:35:21 2023 No.15584991 File: 665 KB, 727x792, 004935.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://spacenews.com/maxar-to-begin-production-of-new-small-satellite-bus/

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:46:17 2023 No.15585009

You fuckin retards don't know shit about spaceflight. So you played Kerbal and watch NSF religiously on YT, good for you. Bunch of Monday morning quarterbacking morons who couldn't launch a model rocket if your incel dicks depended on it. Blue Origin will be the future of spacelfight and I'll accept your apologies now, or you can forever shut the fuck up and suck my ass while I'll shit on you from LEO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:47:15 2023 No.15585013 >>15585009 see >>15584094

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:47:26 2023 No.15585015 File: 14 KB, 250x248, 1665253682156251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585009 >Blue Origin will be the future of spacelfight

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:47:55 2023 No.15585016 >>15585009 when will new glenn launch

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:54:13 2023 No.15585027 File: 280 KB, 2250x1267, 32BBBB9A-DBAE-463D-A73E-46B9EBEEE322.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] DRACO will be launched on a cargo SLS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 17:57:27 2023 No.15585034 >>15585016 Faster than you moving out of mom's basement. >>15585015 Good luck trying to order anything from Alexa tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:11:08 2023 No.15585065 File: 39 KB, 520x391, 1686964789390504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585034 (Will)_(Never)_(Get)_(It)_(Up)

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:16:40 2023 No.15585073
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https://twitter.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1683538616096571398

Maiaspace is a Arianegroup backed startup trying to make a small reusable launch vehicle

https://europeanspaceflight.com/everything-we-know-about-arianegroups-mysterious-maiaspace-startup

> Following the naming convention of Arianespace and its Ariane vehicles, Maiaspace will produce Maia.

>According to the December 6 announcement, the two-stage minilauncher will be powered by a methalox Prometheus engine. Subsequent information supplied to the media outlined that it will be capable of carrying between 500 and 1,000 kilograms of payload depending on the orbit. It will be launched from the Guiana Space Center’s old Diamant launch facility, which the French space agency CNES recently opened up for use by commercial European launch vehicle operators.

/https://europeanspaceflight.com/an-exclusive-update-on-arianegroups-maiaspace-startup/

> The Maia launch vehicle will utilize three Prometheus engines for the rocket’s first stage. The baseline configuration looks to utilise a single vacuum-optimized variant of the same engine for the rocket’s second stage.

> ArianeGroup has supplied Maiaspace with seed funding that has enabled them to begin the process of building out the company. However, it hopes to begin sourcing additional funding from other investors as early as the fourth quarter of 2022.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:17:10 2023 No.15585074 >>15585009 Even Astra employees routinely shit talked Blorp when I was there. And hey, Astra made it to orbit first with like 2% of the budget so maybe they had a point.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:18:46 2023 No.15585077 >>15585073 yay f9 clone #39294 wake me when they actually do a landing test

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:21:59 2023 No.15585079 >>15585077 you sound scared

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:22:23 2023 No.15585080 11 years later and no one has even done THIS outside of a tiny Chinese clone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXlUw2WhcE and NS I guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:23:10 2023 No.15585082 >>15585080 lmao this was done by dcx in the 90s. it's stolen tech and nothing new

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:23:46 2023 No.15585083 >>15585082 and f9 is just a redstone rocket with a new paint job too eh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:35:02 2023 No.15585095 >>15585080 That Chinese drone wasn't even a rocket.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:36:53 2023 No.15585099 >>15585095 I meant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJFsK6z3moU

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:37:29 2023 No.15585100
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>>15585077
>Arianegroup backed startup
Don't get triggered, get popcorn. This is a win-win situation.
One of two things will happen. Either they will fail, and you get to laugh at yet another failure to copy F9, but at least they tried where most closed their eyes and denied that ass landing was even possible when it had already happened.
Or two, they will succeed, and A6 will be BTFO. That would be even more fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:40:03 2023 No.15585105 File: 74 KB, 400x387, pepe_daydreaming.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584418 I daydream about crucifying spaceplanefags also living on Mars or in a space tube also total earther death

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:40:34 2023 No.15585106 >>15585100 >CRAB

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:42:00 2023 No.15585110 File: 107 KB, 684x535, 1621096119388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585106 heh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:43:48 2023 No.15585114 File: 306 KB, 3000x4500, Frenship.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585105 oh boy do i have the ship for you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:49:07 2023 No.15585121 >>15585099 yes that drone is using an RC jet engine

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 18:50:20 2023 No.15585124 >>15585114 Apart from the insulation bit, that would unironically fare better in space than where it went.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:03:45 2023 No.15585142 >>15585124 it should have been pretty well insulated, no? the ocean is cold and water sucks away heat much faster than void

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:10:56 2023 No.15585159 File: 357 KB, 649x3701, AF5AD14A-61DA-4FE7-B7D9-985B6776C58D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584979 Fuck it; gives me an excuse to post this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:11:07 2023 No.15585160 Its pathetic what this place has become.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:13:22 2023 No.15585165 >>15585160 how so?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:14:10 2023 No.15585167 >>15585160 Truly. There's been a krystal drought for days

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:18:12 2023 No.15585174 File: 849 KB, 1643x3016, Dream_Chaser_Atlas_V_Integrated_Launch_Configuration.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584284 Guys, I'm obsessed with the Dream Chaser now. I just think an X-37B, downsized shuttle, type of crew vehicle is so cool

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>>15584606
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:20:05 2023 No.15585179 >>15585174 Has it been confirmed if crewed dream chaser will have windows or not? Last I checked the answer was no

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:20:28 2023 No.15585181 File: 498 KB, 734x843, 004937.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585170 https://europeanspaceflight.com/maiaspace-reports-expenses-of-e349m-in-its-first-year-of-operation/

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:20:49 2023 No.15585182

>>15585165
NTA but it’s basically become the same six or seven open-ended questions and twitter screenshots general. /sfg/ used to be way more creative and interesting
>inb4 this is only because nothing is happening right now
This is an excuse that carried us through the two year drought before SS launched but it’s becoming more obvious that it’s just a consequence of burnout. This general thrived between happenings during the hop campaign because everyone was sharing what they knew about spaceflight and soaking up new info they didn’t know. Now almost every regular anon has discussed what they know, and we are left with a bunch of newfags asking spaceflight 101 questions, staging before page 10, screenshotting their shitty twitter feed every ten minutes, double-posting on that gay /n/ general, and I don’t even know why I still frequent this place to be honest

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:22:15 2023 No.15585186 File: 899 KB, 2048x1366, F1hRtdMWIAAO0l7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/TDSN19/status/1682184739027841024/photo/1 render

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:23:04 2023 No.15585189 >>15585186 Mirroring the other anon who asked last time: how the fuck does this support the weight of a fully fueled Starship above it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:23:13 2023 No.15585190 >>15585182 A small part of it is F9 launches are boring now. Those launch threads used to get a good amount of discussion themselves. t. old launch thread anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:23:56 2023 No.15585194 >>15585182 See >>15585009

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:24:14 2023 No.15585196 >>15585189 Steel is strong in compression lad. Like really strong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:24:28 2023 No.15585198 >>15585190 That’s a good point

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:25:06 2023 No.15585200 >>15585189 I don't think they have tested it yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:25:46 2023 No.15585205 >>15585179 windows schmindows, just imagine the view.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:26:01 2023 No.15585207 >>15585189 thick reinforcements? I don't see how else

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:26:13 2023 No.15585208 >>15585205 the view without windows?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:27:14 2023 No.15585212 >>15585179 They're working on the crewed version. Word on the street is there is even a "classified" crewed version for servicing USSF assets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:27:21 2023 No.15585213 >>15585208 yeah, you'll just have to imagine it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:27:48 2023 No.15585214 >>15585212 Oh please

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:31:18 2023 No.15585221
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Have you guys honestly seen another man as innovative and pioneering as Mr. Bezos? Sure he doesn't crash a rocket every 6 months in the name of "improvement" but I have a hunch when Blue Origin finally shows what it's been working on it's going to be industry changing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:32:28 2023 No.15585224 >>15585221 I do want to see what new Armstrong will be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:33:19 2023 No.15585227 >>15585224 would have been another better name for blue moon. really they dropped the ball on that one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:35:48 2023 No.15585231 >>15585221 I wouldn't hold my breath. https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:37:16 2023 No.15585233 >>15585224 Either it’ll be an extra stage for lunar capability or the name will just transfer to the Jarvis project

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:40:06 2023 No.15585242 File: 175 KB, 960x798, waterlessearth_woodshole_960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:41:07 2023 No.15585244 >>15585186 >>15585189 Surely it has some of those stringers run up on it from the inside and outside. >>15585196 it needs stringers or it needs to be pressured. 4mm steel isn't going to cut it, especially with holes in it now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:43:12 2023 No.15585246 >>15585244 strange that the slats don't line up with the existing stringers on the booster, although maybe that's just a quirk of the render and isn't true on the real article

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:43:55 2023 No.15585247 >>15585073 >Propulsive landing >500 kg-1 ton payload Never gonna happen, small launch isn't big enough to sustain more than one or two launch companies and there is no way that one will be European.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:44:18 2023 No.15585249 File: 134 KB, 1070x1233, 1620765757034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585227 >dropped the ball it really makes you think

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:44:34 2023 No.15585250 >>15585182 anon is mad that twitter has become a primary news source

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:45:08 2023 No.15585251 >>15585246 if you rotate it, it looks like you could fit two. I'm not sure why they don't do a stringer for each grill. But we haven't seen a design that can fit them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:47:12 2023 No.15585254 >applied for a SLD national team engineering job I feel dirty

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:47:31 2023 No.15585255 File: 571 KB, 3200x1269, Lunar Landing Mission Profile.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585249 They are laughing in their face, the goys are unfazed however.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:49:36 2023 No.15585262 >>15585182 Start an ontological space plane argument

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:51:24 2023 No.15585265 >>15585262 Mmmm how about this one: An orbital booster could have absolutely been made in the 90s, if not the 80s, and any argument against this citing “processing power” is a cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:52:24 2023 No.15585269 >>15585265 *RTLS orbital booster obviously

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:53:12 2023 No.15585270 >>15585265 1890s?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:53:28 2023 No.15585271 >>15585265 computers weren’t powerful enough to handle all the inputs needed until like 2013

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:56:05 2023 No.15585273

>>15585262
spaceplanes have next to no downsides when compared to a capsule of similar size and role.
runway landings are a massive boon to rapid reuse and any overheads that reduce payload are a non issue given how far from optimally capsules are already used.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 19:59:27 2023 No.15585279 >>15585273 propulsive capsule landing is debatably better. If you have to emergency deorbit you can land almost anywhere

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:01:40 2023 No.15585282

>>15585273
The whole “you can land anywhere” angle is so gay. I’m pretty sure places like LAX won’t appreciate you phoning in telling them you need to land your giant liquid oxygen/some other fuel tanker on their runway. How the fuck are you going to get it back to your processing facility for reintegration? Some spaceplanes don’t even use wheels—I’m sure big airports won’t appreciate you scraping up the tarmac with your friction skid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:02:37 2023 No.15585285 >>15584094 they both go to space, that's the end of the story. You are just cherrypicking technicalities

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:05:04 2023 No.15585291 >>15585009 you cant just throw chum into the piranha pit like that!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:05:16 2023 No.15585293 >>15585285 There’s a big difference between “just going to space” (already hard) and “I’ll have those government subsidies and just reap all the talent from NASA “ (lazy, what Gwynne Shotwell’s scam company does)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:06:21 2023 No.15585297 >>15585273 we could convert the F9 second stage to a spaceplane?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:06:30 2023 No.15585298 this troll isn't funny

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:07:11 2023 No.15585300 File: 458 KB, 650x634, 004938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/GoToImpulse/status/1683565722553942019

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:08:13 2023 No.15585301 >>15585282 you could totally get away with landing your high altitude glider at LAX, although you'd probably want to land it at your own airstrip because that's where your hangar is.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:09:08 2023 No.15585304

>LAUNCH VEHICLE STARTUPS
>ORBITAL GAS STATION STARTUPS
>SPACE TUG STARTUPS
>SPACE JUNK DEORBITING STARTUPS

uhhh
where are the
space payload startups? the things that all of this infrastructure is 'for'? Seems to be like a gold rush, lots of companies trying to sell you a mine cart and a shovel, but there isn't actually any gold.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:09:18 2023 No.15585307
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>>15585300
https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/24/impulse-space-is-flying-high-with-new-funding-led-by-rtx-ventures/

> For the company’s first orbital mission, called Leo Express-1, Mira will perform a series of tasks on-orbit, including last-mile payload delivery, payload hosting, low-altitude maneuvers and atmospheric re-entry. That mission is scheduled to launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rideshare mission in the fourth quarter of this year. The primary customer for that mission has not been announced.

1-4 months until first mission

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:11:22 2023 No.15585312

>>15585304
Yup. I think the reason we are seeing this now is that we have already been through the “small launcher” gold rush, but the cost of entry was simply too big. So now the new thing is to just design “LEO Economy” vaporware to attract investors

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:12:18 2023 No.15585315

>>15585304
you have a number of space station startups, different satellite internet stuff and other earth sensing stuff
I think what you say applies more to the commercial lunar stuff, though you have a point
I don't see anything really scalable other than the big internet constellations, but the startups mentioned could service them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:12:51 2023 No.15585316 >>15585304 pretty soon every pharmaceutical company is going to be a potential customer. they already have telecom companies and government agencies to sell to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:14:27 2023 No.15585322 >>15585315 there's only so much earth sensing one can do, and IOT swarms aren't exactly huge money makers. Scientific probes are still for governments only. >>15585316 might be part of it, who knows

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:15:27 2023 No.15585325

>>15585315
People are fucking delusional if they think a) constellations are going to be the next-big-thing, and b) of the few constellations that DO get built, these companies would be fine letting everyone and their mother go service them with their small little startup tugs and shit.
Satellite Constellations are indeed going to be a goldmine. But only for like 5 companies max. It’s not going to be some free-for-all money market

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:18:25 2023 No.15585329 >>15585325 more like 2 companies max.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:19:23 2023 No.15585332 >>15585329 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:23:49 2023 No.15585338 >>15585325 You need vehicle to get constellation up, amazon has to buy rides from rockets that don't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:25:28 2023 No.15585341 >>15585273 >spaceplanes have next to no downsides when compared to a capsule of similar size and role. uh? A capsule of similar size doesn't waste mass and hardware on wings?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:26:33 2023 No.15585345 >>15585273 >runway landings are a massive boon to rapid reuse It's not like the spaceplane can take off from the runway though. It's not much better than hoisting a capsule on a truck and driving it back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:29:00 2023 No.15585351 >>15585285 >5 seconds vs staying there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:32:46 2023 No.15585362 File: 376 KB, 662x697, 004940.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1683575415825375232

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:34:31 2023 No.15585368

>>15585341
>dragon throws away the trunk on every launch
>starliner throws away the trunk on every launch
>soyuz throws away fucking everything
>space shuttle reuses all the life support hardware
throw all the hardware from the trunk into the wings and utilize it to slow your glide down
pay no attention to dreamchaser.
>>15585345
that takes time and when you reach the eventual endpoint of rapid reuse your options are try to parachute/propulsively land back at the mechanic, or just have a runway there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:36:07 2023 No.15585374 Can someone give me a run down on Impulse Space? Im trying to understand the business and what they are servicing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:37:25 2023 No.15585377 >>15585182 its X now nigga

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:41:21 2023 No.15585387
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>>15585374
company started by SpaceXs 1st employee, Thomas Mueller, who designed the Merlin engines among other things
its a space tug company, getting payloads to specific orbits after they have gone up with something like Starship
this also destroys basically any shred of reason for smallsat launchers to exist as a cheap reusable launcher + spacetug can get payloads into any orbit without the need for dedicated launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScGt3LQNVrY

https://www.impulsespace.com/
> Access Any Orbit
>Economical and nimble last-mile space payload delivery

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:47:20 2023 No.15585393 >>15585273 >when compared to a capsule of similar size This is the advocate bias, a capsule with a similar role will inherently .be smaller and lighter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:50:13 2023 No.15585397 >>15585368 The trunks are payload space, Dreamchaser's Shooting Star is competable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:51:13 2023 No.15585398 >>15585368 Just put wings on the 2nd stage and the capsule

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 20:55:00 2023 No.15585410 >>15585374 DO NOT visit the bathrooms there. Go outside if you have to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:18:47 2023 No.15585468 >>15585338 And? Is there now some blooming market where everyone is rushing to make medium to heavy lift vehicles?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:25:52 2023 No.15585480 >berger is scraping the barrel for spaceflight news It's over.

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:26:10 2023 No.15585481
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Is NTP really a meme? Is 30 days to Mars never going to happen?
https://aerospaceamerica.aiaa.org/nasa-and-darpa-are-cautioned-against-overselling-the-performance-of-their-nuclear-rocket-tech/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:29:55 2023 No.15585487 File: 981 KB, 922x987, 004942.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585480 are you talking about this or the maiaspace budget thing? https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/christmas-is-coming-for-asteroid-scientists-just-2-months-from-today/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:36:36 2023 No.15585502 >>15585481 plasma magnet sails

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:37:47 2023 No.15585506

>>15585481
kind of a meme, its not going to be drastically better than chemical rockets

nuclear thermal electric was a bit better but I think that was pretty shit too, I remember something else mentioned that was better but don't remember it anymore (not nuclear pulse/project orion, but something that didn't use bombs, perhaps I'm misremembering though)

https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2019/09/nter-nuclear-thermal-electric-rocket.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:51:55 2023 No.15585533 File: 391 KB, 658x604, 004943.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1683591537983385600

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:52:58 2023 No.15585536 File: 1.34 MB, 4096x3067, F11RcZ3aMAA3Zgr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:54:02 2023 No.15585538 File: 101 KB, 600x401, Burnside Clapp zubrin black horse a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585345 >It's not like the spaceplane can take off from the runway though Depends on the spaceplane

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:54:35 2023 No.15585541 >>15585083 Is that a trick question?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:55:17 2023 No.15585542 >>15585539 Cool pic but I'd like to know how long until this bad boy launches

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:55:50 2023 No.15585543 >>15585536 sex

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:56:11 2023 No.15585544

>>15585481
NTP seems great for cislunar operations, large payloads and beyond mars applications, however for a sustained mars colonization effort its meh. There was a panel on the recent 2023 humans to mars summit on the DRACO project and the NASA project manager said that they can reuse a NTP rocket about 4 times for Mars roundtrips before the Uranium in the reactor core decays into neutron poisons. Seems pretty meh performance. In a world without SpaceX and Elon this is a great leap forward in technology, in our world it is still great however somewhat overshadowed now by SpaceX's colonization effort.
>Is 30 days to Mars never going to happen?
With fusion yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:57:12 2023 No.15585547 >>15585542 I asked a magic 8 ball and it said 14 days

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:57:59 2023 No.15585548 >>15585536 beautiful

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 21:59:12 2023 No.15585551 >>15585547 good source as any at this point

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:01:34 2023 No.15585559 File: 98 KB, 750x495, 57212d98dd0895363e8b47da.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All you fags bitching about capsules vs space planes. Why don't you go ahead and build this?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:04:41 2023 No.15585566 File: 240 KB, 1536x1205, gemini4p0QCOcf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They wanted to Recover Gemini like this at one point, essential it was a spaceplane

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:05:57 2023 No.15585569 >>15585566 *spacehangglider

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:07:42 2023 No.15585574 >>15585566 doesn't some space YouTuber thot have that as a tattoo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:14:43 2023 No.15585588 File: 62 KB, 210x214, Screenshot 2023-07-24 at 17-14-26 YouTube.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mating press?

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:19:23 2023 No.15585602
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>>15585481
"Mars in 45 days" is a meme and not the benefit of doubling the ISP of a Mars transfer vehicle.

To put things in context, Starship (the upper stage) has 1200 tons of propellant. If you doubled the ISP of its engines you would only need 600 tons of propellant to achieve the same delta V. You would save nearly half the vehicles mass which could be used as either more propellant (go faster) or more payload (take more with you).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:20:01 2023 No.15585605 File: 98 KB, 2400x815, 1681242903434458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585542

Anonymous Mon Jul 24 22:23:20 2023 No.15585616

>>15585544
>the NASA project manager said that they can reuse a NTP rocket about 4 times for Mars roundtrips before the Uranium in the reactor core decays into neutron poisons

To add, this was due to the temps required for the desired ISP. If you cut it back a little (such as for cislunar space ops) you would extend the life of the engine.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:08:02 2023 No.15585708 >>15585374 They're gonna launch on Starships, then the impulse will provide a platform to deliver sats to accurate orbit to hundreds of sats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:12:01 2023 No.15585718 >>15585708 Oh Lord where have I heard this little gypsy scam before? cough vigoride

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:15:11 2023 No.15585725 >>15585718 Vigoride already launched quite a bit of customers and they have quite a few on the pipeline. Vigoride is a product of Falcon 9 ecosystem. Impulse is a product of Starship ecosystem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:22:49 2023 No.15585749 >>15585559 that's also a space plane

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:23:23 2023 No.15585751 File: 38 KB, 1024x1716, falcon9-size-comparison.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15584094 >>15585285 >>15584094 >>15584103

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:24:15 2023 No.15585756 >>15585533 wait wut. Do they really mean that was fuel?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:27:34 2023 No.15585766 File: 854 KB, 1024x4600, Blue Sheppard - Falcon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585751 >>15585285 >>15585282 you midwit fag lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:27:47 2023 No.15585768 >>15585756 I think they mean testing loading propellent like the act of loading itself, but not propellant

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:31:47 2023 No.15585777 Brothers I am SO DONE with this bird app arc

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:32:17 2023 No.15585778 >>15585756 yes 100%

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:34:56 2023 No.15585784 why didn't they just build the launch pad right the first time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:36:14 2023 No.15585786 >>15585784 because this shitshow is being run by an insane emerald blood hitler

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:47:55 2023 No.15585802 >>15585766 I still can't tell them apart. One has black on bottom right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:48:58 2023 No.15585804 >>15585784 real question how high would they have to build the OLM to not need the bidet? Would it really be more expensive just to extend everything?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 24 23:58:55 2023 No.15585820 >>15585804 Dude did you see the size of the fucking plume. Yes it would be insanely expensive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:05:54 2023 No.15585835 >>15585804 Holup lemme go quadruple the launch tower real quick

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:08:13 2023 No.15585837 >>15585804 tweet this at musk RIGHT NOW

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:11:39 2023 No.15585845 >>15585837 Um excuse me xir but it's called xeeting now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:13:15 2023 No.15585847 File: 137 KB, 4048x1273, 1603375402644.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585751 >CAN ORBIT >NO >YES

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:13:38 2023 No.15585849 >>15585804 By eyeballing the exhaust plume from the the test flight, you probably need it to be something like 100-150 meters, which doesn't seem very practical.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:13:44 2023 No.15585852 >>15585804 lol why don't they just pick up the OLM and put it on stilts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:14:31 2023 No.15585854 hear me out project Orion but with 10,000MT Sundial

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:26:01 2023 No.15585879 >people were saying last night that the starlink launch was visible here in texas legit? i didnt think we could see florida launches from here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:27:27 2023 No.15585882 File: 681 KB, 1170x1169, 9EF2C45D-3B10-440C-91E5-6E87D93E9038.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585718 WAIT FUCK I FORGOT THIS WAS TOM’S COMPANY CAN I RETRACT MY STATEMENT

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:31:39 2023 No.15585888 >>15585879 Where in Texas?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:32:32 2023 No.15585891 >>15585888 corpus and san antonio

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:36:28 2023 No.15585894

>>15585879
Uhhhhhh yeah maybe if you were on the ISS over texas with a huge telescope that could see Florida, MAYBE
No fucking chance you catch a rocket launch some 1,000 miles away. Perhaps they were describing seeing it fly over from west to east on its first orbit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:37:00 2023 No.15585895 >>15585891 Huh, apparently there were sightings here in DFW, as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 00:40:37 2023 No.15585898 >>15585895 >here in DFW I respect leafs and bongs more than rangers fans kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:15:34 2023 No.15585959 You do remember the lockheed Power Tower, don’t you anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:30:06 2023 No.15585992 >>15585959 the latest oldspace alt history fanfiction

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:34:09 2023 No.15586003 >>15584090 this shit is going to be incidentally excavated too, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:34:53 2023 No.15586004 >>15586003 ...what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:37:02 2023 No.15586009 >>15586003 yup

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:38:51 2023 No.15586011 https://youtu.be/WCveZ3FiWoo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:43:13 2023 No.15586016 >>15586003 Yes hahah

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 01:56:42 2023 No.15586051 goodnight /sfg/!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:15:11 2023 No.15586089 >>15586051 Inshallah sleep is success

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:24:19 2023 No.15586107 https://twitter.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1683638059898916864 electron being fished out of the water

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:24:57 2023 No.15586109 L2 reports SpaceX is looking into LC-37 at the Cape for starship launches, too

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:27:22 2023 No.15586113 File: 2.49 MB, 998x1750, Canaveral.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586109 neat the DIVH pad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:31:05 2023 No.15586122 >>15586107 Is perspective really wonky here or is the rocket almost as long as the boat?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:34:09 2023 No.15586129 >>15585065 >gradatim ferociter >transmogrified into a turtle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:37:47 2023 No.15586132 >>15586129 *tortoise

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:50:35 2023 No.15586150 File: 7 KB, 543x311, buckling[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585196 >>15585244 Let me introduce my friend Euler.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:53:33 2023 No.15586153 >>15586113 Always makes me laugh how they built this absolute monster facility with so many pads and it just sits there unused.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:02:20 2023 No.15586161 >>15586113 Is the Cape Canaveral lighthouse functioning, and can I get a /comfy/ job there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:04:46 2023 No.15586167 >>15586122 RocketLab Electron First Stage height: 40 feet Seaworker Wellington ship length: 101 feet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:09:13 2023 No.15586179 >>15585804 About the height of the tower. The engine plume is significantly longer than the rocket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:15:19 2023 No.15586190 >>15585640 what the fuck is this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:35:34 2023 No.15586231 >>15586190 mars

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:36:35 2023 No.15586233 >>15586161 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Canaveral_Light

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:43:41 2023 No.15586242 File: 191 KB, 800x517, Chukudu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586190 an epicycle

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:00:38 2023 No.15586263 >>15585777 Bird app arc is done. The Everything app arc, however, has begun.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:13:14 2023 No.15586280
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>>15585602
It's not so simple in reality, remove the dense oxidizer and your mass fraction becomes significantly worse which destroys most of the benefit of doubling the Isp. Not only that but the delta-v requirement for reducing transit time is exponential and the delta-v for a given Isp will only increase if the mass fraction improves so you can't really 'go faster' just by bringing more tanks to orbit when their mass would already be the vast majority of the dry mass of the spacecraft.

Additionally unlike Methalox there are no rockets that could get close to >150t of hydrogen in orbit due to how voluminous it is so propellant mass for a given payload is not a good metric. Furthermore no one is seriously suggesting doing a direct entry with an NTR so they inherently need more delta-v to perform the same task as Starship and as no one wants to risk starting up a reactor in LEO, Starship isn't even good for assembling the tanks in orbit unless you expend much more propellant refueling it so it can get a meaningful payload to Lunar Distance High Earth Orbit which the spacecraft would depart from.

As I keep saying, modern NTR proposals, including bimodal designs, solve a problem no one has, how to get slightly better performance only under some circumstances while costing even optimistically multiple times more than a chemical rocket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:18:19 2023 No.15586292 >>15586263 Just fucking End it senpai

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 04:55:34 2023 No.15586342 File: 38 KB, 657x527, 1463288087416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15585640 Did you know the sun epicycles on mercury because of wierdly long days and a close orbit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:01:03 2023 No.15586349 File: 450 KB, 1982x380, oof.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:02:20 2023 No.15586350 >>15586349 Holy shit, thanks for the white pill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:03:08 2023 No.15586351 >>15586349 in the grand scheme of science knowledge, this really isn't that 'bad'. Most people are clueless about space stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:10:23 2023 No.15586358 >>15586349 >32% of Russians believe the sun orbits earth Korolev and Gagarin would commit suicide if they saw modern Russia holy shit how did they fall so goddamn far as a nation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:19:07 2023 No.15586374 >>15586358 I suggest you read up on Trofim Lysenko if you think they've fallen as a nation. It was always bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:20:45 2023 No.15586378 >>15586342 I didn't know, that's pretty cool Does mean some days are longer than others?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:24:19 2023 No.15586387 >>15586378 nvm that question was retarded

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:32:17 2023 No.15586395

>>15586374
>Trofim Lysenko
>" Lysenko played an active role in the famines that killed millions of Soviet people and his practices prolonged and exacerbated the food shortages.[5] The People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong adopted his methods starting in 1958, with calamitous results, culminating in the Great Chinese Famine of 1959 to 1962, in which some 15–55 million people died."
oof

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:36:18 2023 No.15586402

>Soviet scientists were forced to denounce any work that contradicted Lysenko.[29] Several geneticists who refused to denounce the theory were executed
how can USSR have smarty pants (somewhat) at the helm of their space efforts but then pull this shit
damn commies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:41:29 2023 No.15586410 >>15586402 "But that wasn't real Lysenkoism!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:53:03 2023 No.15586422 >>15585804 This problem was solved decades ago by not choosing a shitty launch site and then just digging a hole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:56:52 2023 No.15586430 >>15586349 Crazy that there are modern societies where 16-32% of people are functionally illiterate.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 05:58:23 2023 No.15586435

>>15586402
Space program was the exception, not the rule. And even then it was run exceptionally differently from the rest of the country, especially in its later stages or when they could keep the buro hands away from it. There was an interesting bit from somebody who visited it in 1990.
http://www.astronautix.com/i/insidebaikonur.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:03:43 2023 No.15586445 >Cemetery of Arrows Nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:06:43 2023 No.15586452 File: 3.59 MB, 640x480, output.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586378 Yes but in some places something more retarded than that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:10:44 2023 No.15586457 >>15586452 >goodnight >hey are you asleep? >ok goodnight for real now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:23:55 2023 No.15586489 >>15586435 Wild

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:25:30 2023 No.15586491 This guy has some interesting stories on pockocmoc. > Russia's Space Program: Running On Empty > James Oberg's grim account of the fate of the Russian space program in the mid-1990's. http://www.astronautix.com/r/russiasspacunningonempty.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:28:07 2023 No.15586495 File: 1.23 MB, 1265x754, 004944.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCveZ3FiWoo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:41:18 2023 No.15586512 File: 3.94 MB, 1819x1089, 004945.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586495

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 06:45:08 2023 No.15586519 File: 1.64 MB, 1283x729, 004946.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586512 yet another render of the starfactory

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 07:01:40 2023 No.15586543 >>15586512 I have a feeling once MB2 is complete the high bay is going to be disassembled and made into another MB

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 07:07:31 2023 No.15586550 >>15586512 Remember when this whole operation was some Mexicans welding shit together on the beach

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 07:43:58 2023 No.15586648
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/could-spacex-turn-starship-into-a-space-station/

> "Adding increased confidence is the company’s plan to self-fund Starship development from its launch and satellite enterprises," McAlister wrote in a section discussing SpaceX's business approach for the Starship space station effort. "The only weaknesses in the proposal were the lack of a schedule to field its new capabilities and involving NASA in its ... milestones. Overall, strengths outbalance weaknesses."

> On technical grounds, NASA said SpaceX's plan has strengths in its use of existing systems, demonstrated technical competence, and low dependence on other companies or organizations. But McAlister wrote that SpaceX's proposal was short on details about the concept and lacked information on technical risks or the schedule for how Starship could be used for crew transportation to low-Earth orbit or as an orbiting space station within the next five to seven years, one of NASA's goals guiding the collaborative commercial space agreements.

>A Houston-based company named Nanoracks is also working on technology that could eventually be applied to converting spent rocket stages into an orbiting space station. Nanoracks has partnered with Maxar and United Launch Alliance on some early-stage technology development in this area. One of the recent milestones was a small-scale demonstration in space last year to prove a robot could cut metal in microgravity, using a sample of material several inches in size that was representative of the tanks of a Centaur upper stage that flies on ULA's Atlas V rocket.

no new info but if you want a rundown of the The Collaborations for Commercial Space Capabilities (CCSC) program, there it is
also there is a section at the end about using parts of rockets as space stations like the space shuttles external tank

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 07:47:37 2023 No.15586651
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https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4623/1

In depth article about condensing the atmosphere of venus into a solid surface using a massive mirror so it is accessible, though not about full terraforming

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 07:54:41 2023 No.15586665
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https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4625/1
rehash and analysis of the Pew poll about space
the public do not understand and do not give a shit, what NASA does seems to have little effect, allthough "space junk" seems to be a big worry for the public for some reason, perhaps due to WALL-E or something?

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:03:45 2023 No.15586678
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https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4626/1

> The new heavy launchers are the Vulcan by United Launch Alliance (ULA), New Glenn by Blue Origin, and Starship-Super Heavy by SpaceX.

> In this new era, the paradigm of gaining cost savings and additional performance from relaxed mass and volume limits is a matter of choice and opportunity, seeking to make best use of both higher-tech and lower-tech options. Expanded systems engineering frameworks and more flexible cost models could provide crucial assistance to these analyses.

> Reducing launch costs this much will remove launch as a prohibitive budgetary constraint for many projects. That will reinforce the cost of space systems as the dominant budgetary constraint. The next era of space engineering will explore how much the cost of space systems can be reduced with relaxed mass and volume constraints. New limiting factors are likely to be found in the base cost of systems and robotics needed for assembly and maintenance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:08:02 2023 No.15586684 File: 271 KB, 1236x838, comparisons.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586678 graphs from the article New Glenns launch cost is assumed at 67 million due to reusable first stage and expendable second stage

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:08:34 2023 No.15586686 >>15586665 I'd be willing to bet the average retard is afraid of space junk because they assume it will hit them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:11:14 2023 No.15586690 >>15586648 or I would rather say, it (rundown of CCSC) is in the article, not in the greentexts lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 08:41:45 2023 No.15586733 >>15586550 I remember when it was just clueless boomers, some fencing, and a big pile of dirt I remember a very suspicious water tower I remember when hoppy lost his hat in a hurricane and they didn't bother making him a new one

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:00:26 2023 No.15586753 >>15584722 >might as well set it on fire and shoot the shareholders. I hope he does that next desu

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:07:45 2023 No.15586759
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>>15586374
>>15586395
>>15586402
How lucky we are to live in the West with a free exchange of ideas!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Watson
>In 2014, Watson sold his Nobel prize medal to raise money after complaining of being made an "unperson" following controversial statements he had made.[82] Part of the funds raised by the sale went to support scientific research.[83] The medal sold at auction at Christie's in December 2014 for US$4.1 million. Watson intended to contribute the proceeds to conservation work in Long Island and to funding research at Trinity College, Dublin.[84][85] He was the first living Nobel recipient to auction a medal
>Nobel Prize-winning molecular biologist James Watson has been stripped of honorary titles awarded to him by Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:10:46 2023 No.15586765 >>15585189 >>15585207 >>15585244 I imagine the parts where there aren't holes will have thick, solid reinforcements

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:12:09 2023 No.15586768 File: 1.36 MB, 1283x765, 004952.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skfG0lvYBd4 > This is a raw compilation of some of our team's footage of SpaceX Starship's inaugural flight test.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:16:28 2023 No.15586777 File: 118 KB, 712x516, ssto mockingbird-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:28:27 2023 No.15586793 >>15586759 Thank you for bringing a lemon to an apple and orange comparison, gomrade.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:31:22 2023 No.15586799 File: 32 KB, 1753x1000, 1690276470078308.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586512 >>15586519 I take full credit for this incredibly novel and not at all obvious way to construct a factory for producing Starships.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:36:14 2023 No.15586806

>>15586665
>>15586686
It must be truly soul destroying to work in a public space agency.
>You WILL go to space on a budget.
>You WILL pay a billion different legacy shuttle contractors to do this
>You WILL award them cost plus contracts
>You WILL build facilities and provide jobs to all the states, OTHERWISE NO FUNDING
>You WILL follow the directives of the (ave. 80 iq) public
>You WILL divert ALL funding to the SLS

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 09:49:25 2023 No.15586812 [DELETED]

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>>15584418
>>15584433
>>15584556
>>15585105
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:11:54 2023 No.15586829

If everything goes according to plan, the Russian interplanetary station Luna-25 will land on the surface of the Moon a little earlier than the Indian mission Chandrayan-3, despite the fact that the launch is planned only on 11 August. This was announced by a researcher at the Space Research Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Nathan Eismont.

India's Chandrayan-3 mission has already launched and is scheduled to land on the moon on August 23. The Luna-25 station plans to land on August 21. Before that, it will go through several stages, including entering the orbit of the Moon and correcting the trajectory.

The Indian station will also conduct maneuvers around the Earth to enter the flight path to the Moon. It should reach the moon on August 5 and then make maneuvers before landing. If successful, India will become the fourth country to be able to carry out a soft landing on the moon.

The Luna-25 station will be the first Russian lunar station in almost 50 years. The previous Luna-24 mission was launched in 1976. Both the Russian and Indian stations intend to land near the south pole of the Moon, which has not yet been explored.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:13:49 2023 No.15586831 >>15586829 WE RACE YOU THERE BLYAT SIRS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:27:08 2023 No.15586838 File: 19 KB, 919x258, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf is this erasure?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:34:29 2023 No.15586843 >>15586838 google has been getting pretty steadily worse

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:37:16 2023 No.15586846 its so dead lately

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:47:04 2023 No.15586853 >>15586846 nothing else happens except F9 starlink launches and those are turbo boring

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:56:19 2023 No.15586860 >>15586843 Why has no one bothered with a functional alternative? Even searx chokes on niche queries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 11:01:10 2023 No.15586863 HEAVY DARK TAU ANNIHILATION ENGINE

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 11:25:19 2023 No.15586892 File: 472 KB, 705x705, 1624101162148.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15586838 You're welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:15:55 2023 No.15586927 What's /sfg/'s consensus on tomorrow's congressional UAP hearing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:16:53 2023 No.15586929 >>15586927 congressional hearings are all nothingburgers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:22:17 2023 No.15586939 >>15586927 they’re going to announce that not only are aliens real, but they are exactly like their depictions in 1950s b-movie scifi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:23:40 2023 No.15586941 >>15586927 whatever they say, its irrelevant

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:33:49 2023 No.15586957
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>>15586939
>they are exactly like their depictions in 1950s b-movie scifi
those are just robots they send out so scientists will dismiss the reports of them for being too humanoid

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:44:10 2023 No.15586971
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https://spacenews.com/varda-waiting-on-faa-license-to-return-space-manufacturing-capsule/

> However, Varda said July 20 it was delaying the capsule’s return as it works with “our government partners to ensure everyone is fully ready.” The company didn’t elaborate on those issues or estimate when it would be ready to return the capsule.

> In a July 24 interview, Delian Asparouhov, co-founder of Varda, said the company was still working with the Federal Aviation Administration’s Office of Commercial Space Transportation for a reentry license for the spacecraft. That office, best known for licensing commercial launches, is also responsible for overseeing reentries by commercial spacecraft.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:45:42 2023 No.15586974 >>15586971 Why would biden do this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:48:53 2023 No.15586981 >>15586927 I would only be interested if they released the sealed footage that they apparently have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:49:15 2023 No.15586982 >>15586971 The US coast guard smells space meth cooking in space

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 12:51:26 2023 No.15586985 >>15586927 I'm honestly kinda interested to hear what David Grusch has to say. Still can't tell if he's a schizo, a gullible moron being mislead by a psyop/prank, an agent doing a psyop or simply a grifter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:00:27 2023 No.15586995 >>15586971 Why did they not already sort this out before they launched it? Or is this the FAA fucking around again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:02:21 2023 No.15586999 >>15586971 >you can't come back from space without federal authority >but you can hop the border from mexico just fine, bring some weapons and fentanyl while you're coming

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:14:04 2023 No.15587020

>>15585189
What year will Muskopolis (Elonopolis? X.com/cities/1/ ?) be self sustaining?
Will Mars and Earth ever unite as whole planets to engage in military conflict against each other, or will transplanetary factions fight for control of both planets?
Date of the first interplanetary space warfare?

My guess is the Elon's ability to make a self sustaining colony and control it before other states and organizations have any Martian presence will determine the near future of the relations between the two planets. If Mars is simply another place full of Earth corporations and Earther citizens of Earth states, then power can be exerted through ties to Earth. A divided Mars would similarly be easier to control. But a unitary, functionally independent Mars will sooner or later become a politically independent Mars, at which point military conflict is almost inevitable.

The first Mars colony will be self sustaining this century. We will live to see it. Right now it looks like China is the only major contender for a second colony, if the country's economy, government or demographics don't collapse in the meantime. The US government won't be competitive without radical changes in US society, but those are the sort of changes likely to destroy the economy.

Either we get an independent Mars under Musk (possibly with some space warfare) or a new Chinese century on both planets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:17:12 2023 No.15587023 >>15585273 Landing anywhere and rapid reusability are mutually exclusive design goals, much like saving weight for performance and putting wings on a fucking spacecraft. Also your mom is gay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:22:47 2023 No.15587036 File: 236 KB, 1200x1082, A3C22DD7-180B-429D-970B-4CD2AF080DC0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Svetlana Savitskaya servicing Salyut Seven

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:24:02 2023 No.15587038

>>15585304
>spacex, featured heavily in this thread every day for years is set to become one of the largest and most profitable telecommunications companies in the world, if not the largest
Yeah, how could anyone make money in space?!

But if you want a better answer, it's like looking at the future site of a city and asking how anyone could make money manufacturing or selling goods and services there. Once there are enough people and corporations in space, they create demand for infrastructure and goods and services used by other people and corporations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:24:36 2023 No.15587039 File: 133 KB, 500x702, DFF7C341-1400-4F40-9672-9F53DB28F621.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587036

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:26:11 2023 No.15587043 Thoughts on TND propulsion?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:30:13 2023 No.15587048 >>15585852 It is on stilts, though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:36:06 2023 No.15587051 File: 85 KB, 500x565, 1640914083554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587036 ...on a spacewalk, by the Soyuz gotta keep those S's coming dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:38:15 2023 No.15587054 >>15586777 >10 kg payload You'd need 8 or 9 to send up an astronaut and at least double that if he's American or wants any equipment, oxygen or a way to get back to Earth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:38:51 2023 No.15587056 >>15587051 …in space

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:39:55 2023 No.15587057 >>15587036 This is the clearest image of a salyut station in-orbit I think I’ve ever seen

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:40:39 2023 No.15587058 File: 56 KB, 612x426, shrink 4 space .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587054 >You'd need 8 or 9 to send up an astronaut No

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:43:30 2023 No.15587060 File: 156 KB, 1392x3328, shrik_ray.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587058 God I miss westworld on /tv/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:48:48 2023 No.15587065 >>15587058 kek, five star post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:55:35 2023 No.15587072 >>15587036 Is it weird to hate communism but still like the USSR? What great architecture and graphic/industrial design they had. Same with nazi germany. Is this just centrism? Maybe autism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 13:59:36 2023 No.15587077 >>15587054 >at least double that A Mercury capsule weighed about 1200kg. Interestingly enough, Firefly's Alpha and RS1 both have enough payload capacity to get a Mercury capsule into orbit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:02:01 2023 No.15587080 >>15587072 They'd have had some decent architecture if they'd ever realized that they could make buildings out of something other than concrete.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:03:57 2023 No.15587083 >>15587060 the first season was pretty good, but it was downhill from there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:08:04 2023 No.15587088 >>15586402 Space and anything related to it are lies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:16:57 2023 No.15587097 File: 46 KB, 1174x608, NEETworld .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587083 It was turning to shit when the mulattobot got those cucks to turn her brain to maximum.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:26:19 2023 No.15587109
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Its actually kind of crazy how starship will be able to deliver more payload to LEO in reusable configuration than a C-5 galaxy. Its also wild how it costs $100K per hour to operate, so it might be cheaper to use a starship for 20+ hour flights.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:32:54 2023 No.15587118
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https://twitter.com/NanoscaleViews/status/1683825954756472837

Another room temperature super conductor claim
Pb10−xCux(PO4)6O (0.9<x<1.1)

the paper
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2307/2307.12008.pdf

follow up paper
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12037

I wonder how long its going to take to either verify or disprove this
claims like this seem to be quite common, finding an example would be nobel prize worthy
and in this case the material isn't even using anything very rare

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:45:10 2023 No.15587134 >>15586233 >It is the only fully operational lighthouse owned by the United States Space Force. They need to install rocket engines and tankage on it, or turn it into a disguised missile silo.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:45:44 2023 No.15587135

>>15587109
Even so, it would still be a logistics problem. That shit would be so loud and energetic so it would need to land somewhere away from any actual established base, then you have to deal with shipping the cargo and somehow refueling. Even if SS was operational right now, and it was cheaper right this second, it’s logistically easier to just fly a C-5 to an airbase that needs “minimal” (relatively speaking) work to get jet fuel and shit established
Perhaps one day the DoD will have a methalox-landing pad pipeline though and Starships can be sent to more places on a whim

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 14:48:23 2023 No.15587138 >>15587097 True!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:07:33 2023 No.15587170 >>15586648 Nanoracks is working with Maritime Launch Services to make Cyclone 4M second stages wet labs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:30:03 2023 No.15587204 looking at soviet manned spaceflight 1960-1970, they really didn't do much and had a lot of Ls

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:30:56 2023 No.15587206 >>15586665 >>15586686 rocks falling from the sky is more tangible than walking on the Moon (for now)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:35:36 2023 No.15587215 Dissatisfied search engine user here. I have found Yacy, learnt java regex, and am currently crawling all of bergers articles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:42:39 2023 No.15587227 >>15587215 This glows but in a good way A warm glow if you will

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:44:58 2023 No.15587231 >>15587215 been dissatisfied with Google for a long time now. But what exactly is Yacy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 15:57:45 2023 No.15587251 File: 48 KB, 655x570, 004956.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1683865021191794688 Musk responds to the ArianeGroup backed Maispaces 2022 budget reveal of 3.4 mil

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:00:08 2023 No.15587256 File: 29 KB, 383x218, 2tvrom.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587251 SAY THE LINE ELON >...single-use airplane...

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:01:27 2023 No.15587257
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>>15587231
p2p engine where you host your own instance.
The important thing is It does actual verbatim search if you use quotation marks

If you don't like the results (which is quite often tbf), you can use java regex to crawl thousands of relevant webpages and search locally to find what you want.

It isn't great but it's the best of a shit bunch for niche queries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:24:31 2023 No.15587302 File: 63 KB, 838x597, gravity-well-of-Earth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > wellcucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:31:09 2023 No.15587318 File: 109 KB, 670x501, GRADATIM_FEROCITER.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >spinfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:32:23 2023 No.15587320 >>15587302 pits are comfy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:34:27 2023 No.15587323 File: 2.50 MB, 5311x3541, BlueMoonHalo_Hang_5311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:35:15 2023 No.15587324 File: 746 KB, 1255x615, TheFateOfTheSpincel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:35:52 2023 No.15587325 File: 432 KB, 1645x665, 004957.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587318 > spinchads this does not rest entirely on the bald manlet https://www.vastspace.com/roadmap

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:39:29 2023 No.15587329 >>15587318 >Gradatim Ferociter More like Gradatim Gradatim.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:41:21 2023 No.15587330 >>15587318 >company that does fuck all with its time >turtles and hourglasses as part of its larpy crest Can’t make this shit up!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 16:45:59 2023 No.15587336 >>15587325 >not a wheel Ngmi. Which way does it spin?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:10:12 2023 No.15587384 File: 2.93 MB, 640x480, space shuttle flyover in Tucson, Arizona.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man, the Shuttle was flawed as hell but it was beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:12:02 2023 No.15587385 >>15586999 Without extensive federal collaboration, anything entering the atmosphere from space gets investigated as a possible ballistic weapon re-entry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:14:15 2023 No.15587389 >>15587384 It symbolizes 40 wasted years. It is not beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:14:19 2023 No.15587391 https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-partners-with-american-companies-on-key-moon-exploration-tech ULA is getting money from NASA to develop Vulcan reuse.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:15:18 2023 No.15587392

>>15587391
Astrobotic Technology of Pittsburgh, $34.6 million – LunaGrid-Lite: Demonstration of Tethered, Scalable Lunar Power Transmission
Big Metal Additive of Denver, $5.4 million – Improving Cost and Availability of Space Habitat Structures with Additive Manufacturing
Blue Origin of Kent, Washington, $34.7 million – In-Situ Resource Utilization (ISRU)-Based Power on the Moon
Freedom Photonics of Santa Barbara, California, $1.6 million – Highly Efficient Watt-Class Direct Diode Lidar for Remote Sensing
Lockheed Martin of Littleton, Colorado, $9.1 million – Joining Demonstrations In-Space
Redwire of Jacksonville, Florida, $12.9 million – Infrastructure Manufacturing with Lunar Regolith – Mason
Protoinnovations of Pittsburgh, $6.2 million – The Mobility Coordinator: An Onboard COTS (Commercial-Off-the-Shelf) Software Architecture for Sustainable, Safe, Efficient, and Effective Lunar Surface Mobility Operations
Psionic of Hampton, Virginia, $3.2 million – Validating No-Light Lunar Landing Technology that Reduces Risk, SWaP (Size, Weight, and Power), and Cost
United Launch Alliance of Centennial, Colorado, $25 million – ULA Vulcan Engine Reuse Scale Hypersonic Inflatable Aerodynamic Decelerator Technology Demonstration
Varda Space Industries of El Segundo, California, $1.9 million – Conformal Phenolic Impregnated Carbon Ablator Tech Transfer and Commercial Production
Zeno Power Systems of Washington, $15 million – A Universal Americium-241 Radioisotope Power Supply for Artemis

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:16:29 2023 No.15587395 >>15587392 >Americium-241 Radioisotope Power Supply for Artemis YAAAAASSS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:16:32 2023 No.15587397 >>15587391 Nice to see Colorado dominating the listings

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:17:38 2023 No.15587403 >>15587392 Typical oldspace horizontal spread. expensive and useless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:29:47 2023 No.15587417 >>15587336 I would guess so the radius of rotation is maximized

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:36:20 2023 No.15587427 Is there recent any news about the argument starting thruster satellite to be launched?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:39:35 2023 No.15587433 >>15587427 October transporter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:40:19 2023 No.15587434 https://www.bitchute.com/video/vrLR0pGvlclF/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:40:55 2023 No.15587437 >>15587434 I ain't clicking that shit nigga

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:42:28 2023 No.15587440

>>15587384
The shuttle had some pros. One of them being the normalization of frequently sending people to LEO. You can laugh all you want about how the shuttle we got was completely nerfed compared to the original design; but it still flew a hell of a lot of missions. Multiple times per year, in many cases the same orbiter and SRBs being reused within the same year. Remember that when the Saturn V was flying it was still extremely niche to go to space. The United States had literally just tested things like rendezvous and docking for the first time before landing on the Moon. Shuttle pretty much normalized the concept of “civilians” (i.e. scientists who never even served a day in the military) to go up and perform their job. And I don’t think we would have gotten a similar cadence if we kept Saturn V alive even if it was cheaper

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:43:09 2023 No.15587443 File: 526 KB, 855x663, image2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587417 That's smart anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:43:32 2023 No.15587445 >>15587434 lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:46:56 2023 No.15587452 >>15587443 actually it would be the tip of one of solar panels

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:50:15 2023 No.15587462 >>15587427 Supposedly on transporter 9

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:53:14 2023 No.15587470 File: 56 KB, 512x378, big gem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587440 You don't need a Saturn V to send a lot of civilians into space

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:53:46 2023 No.15587473 >>15587384 >>15587440 Every mistake about the shuttle was forgiveable except that it flew too long.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:10:21 2023 No.15587523 File: 418 KB, 661x654, 004958.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587391 https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1683859101023862784

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:11:23 2023 No.15587525 File: 595 KB, 643x927, 004959.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587392 https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1683857294457438208

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:12:25 2023 No.15587528 File: 24 KB, 655x297, 004960.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1683886557340610591 Dreamchaser hopefully in first half of 2024

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:13:26 2023 No.15587532 File: 64 KB, 666x753, 004961.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15587525 https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1683858957767528448

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:13:28 2023 No.15587533 >>15587523 bet you they land on the moon and none of their shit works

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:14:41 2023 No.15587539 >>15587533 would be pretty cool if it did

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:14:53 2023 No.15587540 >>15586838 I found the article once i put the sentence in quotation and added humble pie

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:15:42 2023 No.15587543 File: 169 KB, 916x944, 004962.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.blueorigin.com/news/blue-alchemist-powers-our-lunar-future

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:17:39 2023 No.15587550 File: 433 KB, 653x663, 004963.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] today is the 4 year anniversary of Starhopper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zM-eeFOazY https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1683845656941559810

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:24:53 2023 No.15587562 >>15587550 Look at star hopper. How can you not love him.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:28:18 2023 No.15587569 [DELETED]

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The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:29:10 2023 No.15587572 >>15587550 Remember this cool event? Now please empty your wallets at our online store that I can't stop talking about. We have metal prints of over-edited over-saturated pictures we took!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:30:00 2023 No.15587576 >>15587572 seething

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:31:22 2023 No.15587580
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Some news from a Ruskie telegram

Russia offers BRICS partners a module on its planned space station

Russia's space agency suggests BRICS partners (Brazil, India, China, and South Africa) collaborate on a module for its planned orbital station.

The first module of the Russian Orbital Station (ROS) is expected to be launched in 2027, with construction completed by 2032.

The invitation aims to utilize low-Earth orbit for the BRICS countries' national space programs.

"I would like to invite BRICS partners to ... create a fully-fledged module that, being part of the ROS, would allow the BRICS countries to use the possibilities of low-Earth orbit to implement their national space programmes," Interfax quoted Roscosmos Director-General Yuri Borisov as telling the meeting.

The ROS will consist of six modules and a service platform, accommodating up to four cosmonauts, and will be built in two phases. It will orbit Earth around the poles, providing enhanced observation capabilities for Russia's vast territory and cosmic radiation research.

@DDGeopolitics

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:34:23 2023 No.15587585
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https://spacenews.com/space-force-selects-vendors-for-low-earth-orbit-satellite-services/

> The 16 selected vendors are ARINC Inc.; Artel LLC; Capella Federal; BlackSky; SES Space & Defense; Hughes Network Systems; Inmarsat Government; KGS LLC; Intelsat General Communications; OneWeb; PAR Government; RiteNet Corp.; Satcom Direct Government Inc.; SpaceX; Trace Systems Inc.; and UltiSat Inc.

> Task orders will be awarded for a wide range of services, including high-speed broadband, synthetic aperture radar imaging, space domain awareness; and alternative positioning, navigation and timing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:35:49 2023 No.15587589 >>15587580 I thought China wasn't interested? India might actually contribute something though, at this point I'm more optimistic about India than Russia

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:36:14 2023 No.15587591 >>15587550 raptor still doesn't work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:36:56 2023 No.15587594 >>15587580 Why would China go for it, they got their own station.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:38:57 2023 No.15587601
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>>15587391
https://spacenews.com/nasa-selects-companies-to-advance-lunar-power-and-other-technologies/

> “This will be the first small-scale demonstration of power transmission on the surface of the moon,” John Thornton, chief executive of Astrobotic, said in an interview of the effort, which the company calls LunaGrid-Lite.

> A big focus of LunaGrid-Lite will be to develop and demonstrate enabling technologies, such as cable deployment and high-voltage power transmission, which requires conversion between direct current and alternating current.

> Astrobotic is separately developing other technologies needed for LunaGrid, such as Vertical Solar Array Technology (VSAT) that is optimized to produce power at the polar regions of the moon where the sun is always low on the horizon. The LunaGrid-Lite project won’t use VSAT systems but instead the solar arrays on the lander.

This is pretty cool

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:41:18 2023 No.15587611
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>>15587601
>>15587395

> The system will also demonstrate the use of an alternative isotope, americium-241, which is more readily available than the plutonium-238 conventionally used in radioisotope power systems. Americium produces less power per gram than plutonium, requiring more fuel to produce the same power, but is commercially available.

> Zeno Power won a U.S. Air Force contract in May to test a radioisotope power source on a satellite. That contract uses both a different technology, thermocouples, as well as a different isotope, strontium-90. Despite the differences, he said, “there’s a lot of synergies on the technology development, but also on the regulatory side and on the facility side.”

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:44:14 2023 No.15587616
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https://spacenews.com/astrobotic-announces-plans-for-lunar-power-service/

> The power would be generated by Vertical Solar Array Technology (VSAT) arrays, solar arrays that are deployed vertically and are optimized for operations at the lunar poles, where the sun is always low on the horizon. Astrobotic won a $6.2 million award from NASA Aug. 23 to develop and test prototypes of that solar array, one of three the agency made for similar technologies.

> The first operational LunaGrid system is planned for 2028, but initial elements could be ready sooner. “It could be deployed mid-decade, in time for an Artemis astronaut to actually be able to plug into it,” he said. “This is not a long-term technology that needs continued development.”

Old article about LunaGrid

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:46:54 2023 No.15587624 Staging >>15587623 >>15587623 >>15587623

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:47:44 2023 No.15587626 >>15587624 It’s page 9 still retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:48:57 2023 No.15587633 >>15587391 SMART is retarded (ironically)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 18:55:09 2023 No.15587652 >>15587626 Never stop thrusting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 19:35:44 2023 No.15587749 >>15587589 Chyna didn't want Russians on Tiangong

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 20:39:25 2023 No.15587907 >>15587533 >bet you they land on the moon come on now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 20:41:40 2023 No.15587911 >>15587626 Chinese moot has confirmed that sfg will now use hot staging

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 20:48:23 2023 No.15587919 >>15587626 it wasnt, retard

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