/sfg/ - Spaceflight general

[Anonymous No.15581078]

Challenger edition
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[Anonymous No.15581082]

[Anonymous No.15581083]

hop wen?

[Anonymous No.15581084]

[Anonymous No.15581086]

[Anonymous No.15581087]

>>15581078
Literally the coolest spaceship ever

[Anonymous No.15581088]

>>15581083
two

[Anonymous No.15581089]

Challenger was intentionally destroyed in 1986 because the next launch was scheduled to be HST, but NASA didn't have the software ready to operate HST. Instead of admitting that they couldn't put the software together in time, they bought themselves a 4 year delay by detonating Challenger. Once the software was completed, shuttle flight resumed, HST was the first launch after the delay.

New York Times, April 9, 1990
https://web.archive.org/web/20150525194741/http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/09/us/telescope-is-set-to-peer-at-space-and-time.html?pagewanted=2

>When the project was officially begun in 1977, the goal was to loft the telescope by 1983. Technical problems, particularly with the optical systems and the guidance and pointing mechanisms, set the launching back to 1986. Then came the Challenger shuttle disaster in January 1986, killing seven astronauts, and the Hubble telescope and everything else were grounded indefinitely.

>But as it turns out, project managers acknowledge, ground controllers would not have been ready in 1986. The computer software for pointing the telescope and other complex operations was found inadequate and had to be completely revised, a task only recently completed.

So HST's launch was (((conveniently))) delayed by the Challenger explosion in 1986 and shuttle missions were then delayed until after the HST ground control software could be cobbled together, all without causing any public embarrassment for the NASA failures who couldn't get the HST software put together on time like they had initially claimed they could.

[Anonymous No.15581090]

>>15581087
for sure.
Grumman did a good job

[Anonymous No.15581091]

>>15581083
weeks

[Anonymous No.15581093]

>>15581089
>Challenger was intentionally destroyed in 1986
wrong it was intentionally destroyed in 1972 when they dropped it on the moon.

[Anonymous No.15581098]

there are too many https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger#Air_and_space_craft

[Anonymous No.15581099]

>>15581084
do u think she will ever grow boobies

[Anonymous No.15581107]

>>15581089
schizo

[Anonymous No.15581109]

>>15581078
>>15581087
>>15581090
RETVVRN TO VACVVM VEHICLES

[Anonymous No.15581176]

>>15581082
CGI

[Anonymous No.15581182]

Think we will ever get the scramjet effect without the ridiculous speed requirement?

[Anonymous No.15581226]

>>15581182
Isn't that what rde are? https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/nasa-successful-rdre-rocket-test

[Anonymous No.15581261]

>>15581226
Not really. Scramjets induce deflagration in a supersonic flow, while RDEs use a supersonic detonation wave to combust propellants that are being delivered into an otherwise subsonic flowfield.

[Anonymous No.15581262]

>>15581226
oh nice it is not my field but cool either way.

[Anonymous No.15581270]

>>15581261
Well isn't that just scramjet without the ridiculous speed requirement? It's a supersonic combustion wave. Minus the ludicrous speed, the flow is inescapably subsonic.

[Anonymous No.15581273]

What goes /sfg/ think of From the Earth to the Moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLQeqMaHVYs

[Anonymous No.15581277]

>>15581270
Not that anon but no, a scramjet is supposed to combust the fuel without having the slow the air down first.

[Anonymous No.15581280]

>>15581273
it was mostly fine but unspectacular. they placed too much emphasis on the media in a couple of episodes (the fake documentary crew for apollo 7, jacking off walter cronkite too much) which was kinda lazy writing from writers who know more about how tv works than how spaceflight works.

[Anonymous No.15581288]

>less than 10 posts per hour
/sfg/ is in standby mode, awaiting orbital insertion

[Anonymous No.15581297]

>>15581288
It's weird, given how close we are getting to OFT-2.

[Anonymous No.15581300]

The only reason I'm still living is to see Mars with my own eyes.

[Anonymous No.15581302]

i've been reading early space race newspapers and one of the interesting things is how clueless the west was about the R-7. for the first year or so there was a lot of speculation that it was a three-stage rocket. one example: heinz-herman koelle speculated they had a 264klb first stage engine (about 20% stronger than the actual rd-107), an A4-derived engine on the second stage, and a wasserfall-derived engine (like what ended up getting used on the scud) on the third stage.

but then after atlas put SCORE into orbit and Luna 1 sent 360 kg on an escape trajectory, the guesses started getting further off the mark. the pic is from january '59 and they're thinking maybe sputnik's rocket was just a bigger version of atlas. the guesses about core engine thrust are starting to get way too big too - in the 450 klb range, almost rd-191 territory.

[Anonymous No.15581303]

>>15581297
it's the middle of the night for us americans, and europe right now is about as capable of spaceflight as africa

[Anonymous No.15581308]

>>15581288
what is there to talk about?

[Anonymous No.15581329]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1682956159500558336

[Anonymous No.15581372]

>capsules with roto-gyros that power up as you come down
kino

[Anonymous No.15581389]

https://spacenews.com/nasa-offers-details-on-commercial-space-capabilities-agreements/

As a reminder, this is about the list of 7 companies
> Blue Origin
>Northrop Grumman Systems Corporation
>Sierra Space Corporation
>pace Exploration Technologies Corporation
>Special Aerospace Services,
>ThinkOrbital Inc
>Vast Space LLC,

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/seven-us-companies-collaborate-with-nasa-to-advance-space-capabilities/

from the spacenews article (not the nasa site)

>Five other companies submitted CCSC-2 proposals that NASA rejected. Three of them were from companies working on space station concepts: Gravitics, Orbital Assembly (now Above: Orbital) and Space Villages (now Orbital Outpost.) NASA found weaknesses in both their technical and business approaches. The proposal from Space Villages, for example, “lacks clarity on the company’s legal status, its facilities, and the status of its major partners.”

[Anonymous No.15581399]

>>15581078
I love spacecraft with a bunch of shit sticking out so fucking much

[Anonymous No.15581405]

>>15581288
There is fucking nothing happening. All these F9/Heavy launches are routine.

[Anonymous No.15581428]

>>15581288
The nro glowies take the weekend off

[Anonymous No.15581432]

>>15581329
About time we had an openly facist african american ceo

[Anonymous No.15581436]

I heard you wanted to go to the Moon and Mars.

>https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20230002706
>Exploration Systems Development Mission Directorate (ESDMD) Moon-to-Mars Architecture Definition Document

[Anonymous No.15581444]

>>15581389
What is about the list?

[Anonymous No.15581450]

>>15581436

[Anonymous No.15581451]

>>15581450

[Anonymous No.15581454]

>>15581436
>>15581450
They're trying SO HARD to avoid drawing Starship for some reason.

[Anonymous No.15581456]

>>15581451

[Anonymous No.15581457]

>>15581436
>Short Surface Stay
>Short Surface Stay
>Short Surface Stay

[Anonymous No.15581460]

>>15581456

>>15581454
The Starship HLS is shown but yeah elsewhere it is avoided where it would otherwise be relevant.

[Anonymous No.15581481]

>>15581454
Because Musk and Starship are verboten to talk about or lend credence to outside of a very narrow use case. It'll be 2028 and they'll still be drawing or making CG mockups of nuclear rockets or complicated stations for the journey to Mars while SpaceX is prepping the first group of Starships to Mars.

[Anonymous No.15581484]

>>15581444
those were the companies chosen to collaborate with nasa though no contracts
5 companies were not even chosen to be collaborated with

[Anonymous No.15581493]

>>15581484
Oh yeah, that thing. I didn't understand what those visual aids were meant to do in the pdf. I didn't see them applied anywhere.

[Anonymous No.15581523]

>>15581457
NASA isn't going to send astronauts to Mars for an extended period the first time a human sets foot on it.

[Anonymous No.15581529]

>>15581457
At this point, we can't even build self-sustaining colonies at various inhospitable locales on planet Earth.
Now imagine doing that on a dead planet that's far enough that even real-time mission-critical communication is impossible, months away from emergency missions at best, cargo volume is extremely limited and good transit opportunities arise only every few years.

I'm just sayin' i's a bit hard get started on this interplanetary thing.

[Anonymous No.15581593]

I hate oldspace so much it's unreal.

Love from America.

[Anonymous No.15581619]

>>15581529
It doesn't even need to be long term colonisation. Travelling through deep space for 3 years only to spend 20 days on the surface seems like a massive waste.

[Barkun No.15581629]

>>15581619
Pluto instead of mars. Mars isn't even habitable. Goonpops

[Anonymous No.15581638]

>>15581372

[Anonymous No.15581647]

>>15581078
weird challenger

[Anonymous No.15581674]

>>15581619
>Travelling through deep space for 3 years only to spend 20 days on the surface seems like a massive waste.
Its gayer than GRIDS

[Anonymous No.15581692]

>>15581261
>>15581226
>>15581270
the real question is when rotating detonation raptor successor?

[Anonymous No.15581698]

>>15581329
>why is biden so unfriendly with elon all of a sudden? i guess its a total mystery

[Anonymous No.15581700]

>>15581698
He is? /sfg/ told me it was just a conspiracy theory.

[Anonymous No.15581701]

>>15581698
that biden video is a year old and the biden admin being unfriendly goes further back than that

[Anonymous No.15581702]

>>15581529
>At this point, we can't even build self-sustaining colonies at various inhospitable locales on planet Earth
Such as? How did they fail?

[Anonymous No.15581704]

what's the current chat about raptor 3? how much more powerful is it than raptor 2?

[Anonymous No.15581706]

>>15581698
> respecting a senile criminal usurper
Why should Musk do that?

[Anonymous No.15581708]

>>15581704
Powered by anti-methalox.

[Anonymous No.15581711]

>>15581700
It is just a dumb conspiracy theory. /pol/ is leaking again.

[Anonymous No.15581714]

>>15581711
/pol/ has always been here, pal

[Anonymous No.15581715]

>>15581711
no it isn't lol
democrats and by extension biden admin clearly dislike musk

[Anonymous No.15581716]

>>15581706
>criminal
>usurper
Literally no evidence of this.

[Anonymous No.15581720]

>>15581714
No it wasn't. /sfg/ was politically balanced until Elon started doing right-wing signaling and it as only gotten worse when he bought twitter.

[Anonymous No.15581721]

>>15581182
what's the scramjet effect??

[Anonymous No.15581723]

>>15581277
it does slow it down but not slower than sonic speed.

[Anonymous No.15581728]

>>15581674
>stort-stay
What's even the point of this? To plant a flag and gtfo?

[Anonymous No.15581741]

>>15581716
You don't challenge the senility charge then? :^)

[Anonymous No.15581747]

>>15581702
By not being self sustaining? I assume that anon is talking about places like antarctic science bases that still need regular supply deliveries so people can survive there.

[Anonymous No.15581750]

reposting because I like it.
>>>/wsg/5188933

[Anonymous No.15581751]

>>15581706
>criminal usurper
Did you forget that Musk soured his relation with Trump too?

[Anonymous No.15581760]

>>15581747
>By not being self sustaining?
Obviously but I was curious about the details as to why they failed to be self sustaining.
>I assume that anon is talking about places like antarctic science bases that still need regular supply deliveries so people can survive there.
A small problem with this reasoning is that the Antarctic bases aren't trying to be self sustaining because the effort required would get in the way of the bases' purpose: researching Antarctica. Flying supplies in is an easier and cheaper solution.

[Anonymous No.15581767]

>>15581529
we used to have antarctica colonization posts here a while ago. Some anons (myself included) thought it was probably possible, but really hard and expensive. It's simply that nobody is bothering: much like china, despite being quite capable of it, never bothered to colon0nize anywhere despite having multiple foreign exploration missions: we no longer possess the culture or the spirit to even dream of it.

[Anonymous No.15581774]

>>15581767
overseas, I mean. Early china (Han people) was quite good at overland colonization. I always find this really interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_treasure_voyages

[Anonymous No.15581793]

>Musk stole secret NASA schematics for an antimatter lab
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2020_Phase_I_Phase_II/Deceleration_of_Interstellar_Spacecraft_Utilizing_Antimatter/
>He's been producing 20 grams of anti methane per year
>The reason that raptor 2 doesn't require an igniter isn't because he found a way to make methane and oxygen hypergolic, but because he is catalyzing the engine with antimatter

[Anonymous No.15581797]

>15581793
k... keep me posted

[Anonymous No.15581801]

>/schizophrenic fantasies general/

[Anonymous No.15581831]

>>15581793
this is why you never aim directly at your destination.

[Anonymous No.15581857]

>>15581793
>everyone and their grandma has fusion torch drive ships
>the government doesnt use nukes because reasons

[Anonymous No.15581895]

https://youtu.be/YA7YQcA9Waw

Anons, ever since mars direct 2 I've pretty convinced that using starship as the only means of landing on and leaving mars is a not amazing concept due to the energy and mass requirements of acquiring the propellant needed for such a large vehicle, even with nuclear. Needing ISRU water to survive the mission is a massive risk and requires so much more mass to mine and transport and filter... Etc. While not perfected, I think this architecture has most elements that would allow the best chance of survival. Mars missions would be shut down if SpaceX has the first crew not survive.

[Anonymous No.15581905]

>>15581895
if you don't have isru water then there is no point going to mars in the first place

[Anonymous No.15581921]

>>15581905
No, it's critical for long term anything on Mars. I mean NEEDING ISRU water to return to Earth on the first manned mission is incredibly risky. There are currently no architectures that address the amount of equipment required to dig and transport/chill this ice and propellent. Having that be mission critical for the first manned mission is gambling the future human spaceflight. The biggest hurdle, other than space propellent transfer, is the energy and equipment needed to refill starship. I think MD3 is a decent concept.

[Anonymous No.15581922]

>>15581454
gee I wonder why NASA wouldn't want to add a to-scale starship to any of their diagrams

[Anonymous No.15581925]

>>15581436
reminds me of the fucking 90s. who is making these shitty charts? they should put the price on all these

[Anonymous No.15581927]

>>15581921
????
why are you talking about returning to earth? Thats an optional task at best

[Anonymous No.15581929]

>>15581921
We don't have to send the equipment at the same time. we could just dump it all a year before, ready and waiting
hell, we could send automated drilling and refining equipment so they already have plenty of water before they even leave for mars

[Anonymous No.15581943]

>>15581929
The prop mass and energy needed for Starship is probably higher than you think. It's doable but much riskier
>Implying water ice is easily accessible at mid latitudes and not 3+ meters under ground

[Anonymous No.15581947]

>>15581943
why do you believe digging is hard...

[Anonymous No.15581952]

What happened to that lunar probe that had a 1 meter drill?

[Anonymous No.15581956]

>>15581921
I agree. The first mars base should probably have a solid or hypergolic rocket on standby to escape to orbit at a moment's notice.
not saying starship won't be critical to the mission, but relying on a rocket that needs cryogenic propellant to return, even if you manufacture that propellant before sending any humans, seems unnecessarily risky

[Anonymous No.15581974]

Imagine thinking the VentureStar wasn't garbage lmao
https://www.flightglobal.com/new-venturestar-design-revealed/30566.article

[Anonymous No.15581977]

>>15581974
lookit this goofy ass nigga

[Anonymous No.15581988]

>>15581956
>have a solid or hypergolic rocket on standby to escape to orbit
what good does being in LMO do? you die quicker?

[Anonymous No.15581989]

>>15581988
rendezvous with a space station you left there that presumably isn't having whatever problems your surface base was

[Anonymous No.15581993]

>>15581947
Energy. Digging equipment will be electric, and therefore use batteries and need recharging. How many cubic yards of regolith to expose water ice? Now, how to move this from hole to transport vehicle to stop it sublimating? You'll have a mixture of ice, volatiles, and regolith. It needs to be transported quickly to avoid disappearing, or have a pressurized/enclosed transport method to capture this vapor. Mining even small amounts on Earth requires hundreds/ thousands of tons of vehicles and we have the benefit of room temperature, energy sense fuel. This process difficulty has similar challenges for starship and a smaller version, it's just now you don't need 1100+ tons of fuel and oxidizer.

I mean seriously how much useful water do you get per yard of moved regolith? Not much. Landing sites will probably be mid-latitudes, and ice less available than landing near a glacier where your equipment will freeze (and receive less sunlight for solar).

[Anonymous No.15581994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6aSKILcpM8

[Anonymous No.15581998]

>>15581947
>Why do you believe that mining, an already complex task, will be difficult when there are stringent energy availabilities, a product that vaporizes slowly when it's exposed, and will oh yeah this entire process has to be fast and fully automated

Idk I guess just land a backhoe loll

>>15581993
Couldn't type fast enough. Also add that this must be fully and completely automated

[Anonymous No.15581999]

clouds

[Anonymous No.15582006]

>>15581999
why bother painting the OLM every time? just let it rust. not like they gonna paint it between every flight with the cadence they want

[Anonymous No.15582007]

New newspace startup appeared

https://orbitaloutpostx.com/

Orbital Outpost X, they want to build commercial space stations

[Anonymous No.15582018]

>>15582007
Yeeeeah straight to the garbage with this one

[Anonymous No.15582033]

>>15581895
Dedicated landers are superior to multi-role vehicles like Starship but only when the infrastructure for them is set up.

[Anonymous No.15582038]

>I went and saw this shitty movie

[Anonymous No.15582040]

>>15582038
Barbie was better by far

[Anonymous No.15582042]

>>15582038
Christopher Nolan has never made a good movie.

[Anonymous No.15582043]

>>15582038
> watching movies

[Anonymous No.15582047]

cryotest or some shit happening

[Anonymous No.15582049]

TOTAL BIRD DEATH

[Anonymous No.15582052]

>>15582049
oh nononononono

[Anonymous No.15582053]

filling up

[Anonymous No.15582061]

>>15582049
Purchasing Twitter was the worst mistake he's ever made in regard to anything. I fear the consequences will damage the future of manned spaceflight. All you had to do was watch your companies you faggot

[Anonymous No.15582063]

>>15582061
it was necessary

[Anonymous No.15582064]

>>15582061
Yeah you're a faggot.
Two weeks until twitter is finally ruined

[Anonymous No.15582065]

>>15582063
No it wasn't you retard, it was a terrible idea back then and is even worse now that an alternative is growing away. How will he cover the debt when Twitter eventually dies?

[Anonymous No.15582067]

>>15582065
Two more weeks.
It's dying for sure.
He's running it into the ground.
Stupid Elon poopy head diapey shitey

[Anonymous No.15582071]

>>15582063
It wasn't. He didn't need to buy twitter, he just wanted a way to control it, but was forced to buy the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.15582072]

>>15582065
you are an absolute faggot
you were wrong then and even more wrong now and will always be a massive homo
twitter is doing better than it ever was

[Anonymous No.15582074]

>>15582065
Sell the servers for scrap. That’s what I would’ve done immediately after getting twatter though

[Anonymous No.15582076]

>>15582071
yes it was, how fucking delusional can you be? did you ignore the twitter files completely?
there was a massive amount of censorship which would have slowly moved western countries into more and more totalitarianism, slowly chocking out any chance to actually do anything
a new dark age would have come, it might still be but there might be time to start a self sustainable mars colony before western civilization falls

[Anonymous No.15582077]

>>15582053
they already did this with B9 before OFT1. did they lose confidence? concerning

[Anonymous No.15582079]

>>15582076
holy schizopost batman!

[Anonymous No.15582082]

>>15582077
!!

[Anonymous No.15582084]

>>15582079
the reason I say it might still happen is that twitter might not be enough (even though it looks like the overton window is moving back a bit), but the birth rates in western countries are falling massively and at the same time people from third world countries keep moving in, slowly replacing the indigenous population
this means, what happened to brazil and south africa will happen to the US and Europe
stagnation in every facet, especially technology

[Anonymous No.15582085]

>>15582076
So he bought Twitter to stop censorship to enforce his own kind of censorship?

[Anonymous No.15582089]

>>15582076
the twitter files were the biggest fake outrage nothingburger ive seen in my life.

[Anonymous No.15582091]

>>15582085
>So he bought Twitter to stop censorship by enforcing his own kind of censorship?
Fixing a typo.

[Anonymous No.15582093]

>>15582085
what censorship is musk enforcing?
there is much less of it than before, massively less
some stuff is still a bit too spicy and some is just illegal (like outright death threats or something) which are censored yes
but what kind of censorship is there towards certain opinions for instance? I don't think there is

[Anonymous No.15582095]

>>15582085
You're tranny.

[Anonymous No.15582098]

>>15582053
Can't wait for this thing to actually fly.

[Anonymous No.15582100]

>>15582089
they showed clear collusion with government agencies to censor certain political opinions and actual facts about covid
clear violations of the first amendment

[Anonymous No.15582103]

>>15582093
https://www.businessinsider.com/free-speech-censorship-elon-musk-throttled-tweets-turkey-presidential-election-2023-5?op=1
He censored critism of the Turkish government on their request. Very suspicious.

[Anonymous No.15582106]

>>15582100
schizo posting needs to stop

[Anonymous No.15582107]

>>15582100
>actual facts about covid
You mean "actual facts" like taking ivermectin to stop covid? Or how it was a weapon to depopulate the Earth except Jews? Geez I wonder why Twitter took down blatantly false statements that would've caused more harm if left to stand.

[Anonymous No.15582109]

>>15582100
surpreme court said it was legal

[Anonymous No.15582112]

>>15582085
Yes (and that's a good thing)

[Anonymous No.15582113]

Page 1 transnigger bait-seethe.
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.15582114]

how exactly does elon expect to get 1 hour turnarounds between flights when it takes them more than an hour just to fill the damn thing?

[Anonymous No.15582116]

>>15582103
not suspicious at all, they are following each countrys law but will put the information on the tweets why something is being censored
the important fact here is that it is not twitter themselves that are the arbiters of truth, it is the country and their populations that choose what is legal or not legal and twitter is following the law of each country
otherwise that country could just block twitter altogether
there is a massive difference in removing something and then putting a disclaimer on the tweet why you can't see it (lets say the french government wants to censor something, or german, this happens already) vs some random person in twitter or some random person in some government organization removing stuff arbitrarily and then actively trying to deny it and hide that they are doing this censoring, even lying that they aren't doing so

[Anonymous No.15582117]

>>15582114
just make the pipes bigger

[Anonymous No.15582120]

>>15582114
I think thats just a hype statement. SpaceX is committed to reduce Starships turnaround time as much as possible. They need to watch out for "go fever".

[Anonymous No.15582139]

>>15582114
Like the deluge system, add compressed air tanks to the tank farm and blow the propellant in.

[Anonymous No.15582145]

>>15582093
Twitter is still downranking pro-Trump content.

[Anonymous No.15582147]

>>15582114
SpaceX didn't get get weekly F9 launches by aiming for quarterly launches.

[Anonymous No.15582151]

>>15582116
The appropriate response to censorship requests by authoritarian shitholes is to push a "connect via Tor" option to the app. Try DNS blocking that.

[Anonymous No.15582155]

>>15582120
go fever is bureaucratic BULLSHIT

[Anonymous No.15582160]

>>15582155
More like a tragedy.

[Anonymous No.15582164]

>>15582160
not really, it implies the shuttle would have launched safely if they just waited and...checked on the parts? No. The shuttle was inherently a death trap and they launched it every time knowing it could kill astronauts

[Anonymous No.15582173]

>>15582164
>The shuttle was inherently a death trap
Because the US government cut NASAs funding so much that they couldn't make a safe vehicle, and they had to fly it often to justify keeping it instead of scrapping it entirely and leaving NASA with no launch vehicles. The Shuttle was a complete mess.

[Anonymous No.15582179]

>>15582173
cope

[Anonymous No.15582189]

>>15582173
are you sure its the budget that was the problem and not
1) spaceplanes are just inherently stupid and shit
2) it was designed as a bad compromise due to military requirements

[Anonymous No.15582191]

>>15582173
holy absolute revisionist history

[Anonymous No.15582196]

https://twitter.com/ThePrimalDino/status/1683143884958756864

first tweet from this dude that is actually somewhat positive towards Starship?

[Anonymous No.15582198]

https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1683152823293190145

[Anonymous No.15582199]

>>15582189
>it was designed as a bad compromise
mostly just this one. it would have been great if it burned kerolox and had an escape capsule. bonus points if it can launch without crew

[Anonymous No.15582201]

>>15582189
>spaceplanes are just inherently stupid and shit
Spaceplanes can work. Just not the way the Shuttle did it.
>it was designed as a bad compromise due to military requirements
NASA only gave into military requirements because they needed extra development money to finish the Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15582202]

>>15582198
Wow, the tired teen on the left looks just like Elon.

[Anonymous No.15582206]

>>15581619
It will be attractive to the people who want to die there with no regard for radiation shielding or their long term health. We could shoot people at Mars tomorrow with a decent chance of them at least surviving landing.

[Anonymous No.15582209]

If i was in mars i would commot assault on female colonists

[Anonymous No.15582211]

>>15582202
That's not the one with tits is it

[Anonymous No.15582213]

>>15582206
>radiation shielding
stop regurgitating propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15582218]

>>15582211
I'm not sure how far he went with it, who knows, maybe he got over the fad and didn't actually destroy himself with hormones and/surgeries
but I think that is someone else, there were triplets and twins

[Anonymous No.15582219]

>>15582209
>here we see the grave of astronaut Anon, the first case of capital punishment on mars
>he was put to death by drowning in the pisslock by astronaut Chad because he groped astronaut Stacey without her concent

[Anonymous No.15582220]

>>15582219
the cool thing about this is i can just poke a hole in chad's hab before and he dies

[Anonymous No.15582224]

https://www.youtube.com/live/gwgRixEbFh8
Holy SHIT

[Anonymous No.15582226]

>>15582220
You're gonna kill the entire Mars base just so you can touch some boobs?

[Anonymous No.15582230]

>>15582209
Mars colonies will have sexbots

[Anonymous No.15582231]

>>15582224
what?

[Anonymous No.15582232]

>>15582220
lol, anon. It would take quite a while to notice the effects of that, and when he does he can track it down and patch it over. As long as you have basic equipment it's not even a minor risk: It'll be a major annoyance and time waster at the very worst.

[Anonymous No.15582233]

>>15582226
the whole point is i can avoid prison for life

[Anonymous No.15582234]

[Anonymous No.15582237]

>>15582233
there has to be some kind of screening for the mars pioneers

[Anonymous No.15582238]

How many times will they be filling this thing before launch?

[Anonymous No.15582242]

>>15582237
i hide among u like a chameleon

[Anonymous No.15582245]

Woah woah woah wait why does the entire booster have frost on it? Do static fires usually have this much frost??

[Anonymous No.15582246]

>>15582242
there are easier ways to get laid

[Anonymous No.15582247]

>>15582238
Once today. Then a partial fill for each static fire.
Are you newfag?

[Anonymous No.15582248]

>>15582245
its a cryotest and the NSF people are speculating the top tank (methane) has been filled with nitrogen instead of methane

[Anonymous No.15582249]

>>15582237
A test might involve locking the crew in a hotel room for a week. If they can manage that without any shenanigans then they pass.

[Anonymous No.15582250]

>>15582245
This is actually pretty concerning

[Anonymous No.15582253]

>>15582245
Newfag
>>15582250
!!

[Anonymous No.15582255]

>>15582248
i feel like theyve never done this before

[Anonymous No.15582256]

>>15582250
Im an idjit and just got here see >>15582248

[Anonymous No.15582257]

>>15582246
>should i look for ways to improve myself so women will like me?
>no, i need to train extensively and get on one of the most prestigious programs in earth so im free to molest women on another planet
Did you take the (martian) red pill?

[Anonymous No.15582258]

>>15582255
Newcuck

[Anonymous No.15582259]

>>15582250
Not really. The whole thing is sugarcoated.

[Anonymous No.15582261]

>>15581698
all of a sudden? He's been against Musk since his first day in office

[Anonymous No.15582262]

>>15582258
>no evidence
nice ad hominem though

[Anonymous No.15582263]

>>15582262
>he doesn't know what a cryo test is.
refet to this >>15582258

[Anonymous No.15582266]

>>15582262
Yeah Biden hates him so much he's giving Musk billions in subsidies, yeah

[Anonymous No.15582267]

Damn look at those big ol texas clouds. Beautiful

[Anonymous No.15582272]

I remember the faggot doomers who said it would be at least two years before SH ever sat on the pad again

[Anonymous No.15582275]

>>15582266
meant for
>>15582261

[Anonymous No.15582276]

>>15582272
CSI Starbase

[Anonymous No.15582278]

>>15582272
OFT2 will launch in April 2024

[Anonymous No.15582279]

>>15582278
IFT-2*

[Anonymous No.15582280]

>>15582278
*2025

[Anonymous No.15582282]

>>15582278
massively wrong

[Anonymous No.15582283]

>>15582278
October 2023 mark your calendar bitch. It’ll be the 14th I’m calling it now

[Anonymous No.15582285]

>>15582280
delusional

[Anonymous No.15582287]

[Anonymous No.15582288]

>>15582266
Biden doesn't hate Musk. The FAA just wants to make sure that SpaceX is being safe considering they're building the largest privately owned launch vehicle in history.

[Anonymous No.15582291]

>>15582278
*Crewed Flight Test 2

[Anonymous No.15582292]

toot

[Anonymous No.15582294]

>>15582288
largest launch vehicle, period—which is insane

[Anonymous No.15582295]

some venting

[Anonymous No.15582297]

it's funny to see the optimistic musk-timeline-believing newfrens.
>he meant 8/12/16/20... weeks all along
>he has no control over FAA
lol yes we know. heard it all before

[Anonymous No.15582298]

>>15582278
*September 2023

[Anonymous No.15582305]

So obviously every higher-up at NASA in now intimately involved with Starship because of HLS. Meaning they know even MORE insider information than even the most autistic L1+1 user. My question is, do you think these people watch Starship’s rapid development with watering mouths excited to have a new vehicle? Or do they watch it and seethe because they need their own internal vehicle (SLS) to not be outshined?

[Anonymous No.15582306]

>>15582297
tranny seethe-baiter

[Anonymous No.15582307]

>>15582291
this could actually happen. dearmoon crew test 1 and oscar isaacman crew 2 (polaris)

[Anonymous No.15582313]

>>15582307
Was that an attempt at some sort of joke or did you just get isaacman’s name confused

[Anonymous No.15582314]

>>15582297
When do you think the flight happens? Musk timeline doesn't matter in my assessment that it's more likely this year than not.

[Anonymous No.15582321]

>>15582314
Probably close to my birthday in december

[Anonymous No.15582325]

>>15582313
i know like 10 isaacs and isaacmans

[Anonymous No.15582326]

>>15582213
>Anon will now attempt to refute well known issues with long term spaceflight
Everyone stop typing, let's see it

[Anonymous No.15582328]

>>15582326
Radiation

[Anonymous No.15582330]

>>15582305
If they have any sense in them they are mad that the senate dictated a solution to them.

[Anonymous No.15582331]

>>15582326
just throw some dirt on the habitat nigga
not a problem whatsoever

[Anonymous No.15582332]

>>15582325
Okay then yeah lol. His name is Jared. You’re thinking of oscar isaac from Drive (I played lead in that film btw)

[Anonymous No.15582333]

>>15582326
just send the astronauts up with a bottle of spf 50 sunscreen. problem solved.

[Anonymous No.15582334]

>>15582079
>>15582089

[Anonymous No.15582336]

>>15582332
Not heard of that but cool

[Anonymous No.15582338]

>>15582321
>its december
>starship orbital test flight 2
>the stream is live
>elon autistically stares into the camera
>"anon ive heard its your birthday so heres your present"
>starship launches
>veers off course
>crashes into faa headquarters
>"h-happy birthday"

[Anonymous No.15582343]

>>15582326
No matter how much shilling you do mars will still never be radioactive enough to even cause a statistically detectable cancer rise.

[Anonymous No.15582344]

SN8 was the greatest Starship flight.

[Anonymous No.15582345]

[Anonymous No.15582346]

Bruh, 5 of ours aren’t even a domestic launch vehicle [math]\unicode{x1F614}[/math]

[Anonymous No.15582348]

>>15582338
If this happened I would be so happy. Thank you Elon

[Anonymous No.15582351]

>>15582345
Can't wait for some high res photos of this. the clouds are spectacular

[Anonymous No.15582354]

>>15582346
Bruh, do mass now

[Anonymous No.15582357]

>>15582351
Do you not have clouds where you live?

[Anonymous No.15582359]

>>15582346
Hobbitlab is deemed a US company for ITAR purposes and builds all their engines here. Also some of those launches were from Virginia.

[Anonymous No.15582360]

>>15581107
he's a based schizo

[Anonymous No.15582361]

>>15582346
>No CZ5 launches
why even live

[Anonymous No.15582362]

>>15582357
yeah but they're the shit wispy kind. pretty rare to get nice puffy storm clouds. I just like the framing of them behind the rocket

[Anonymous No.15582363]

>>15581099
no she's Japanese and also a drawing

[Anonymous No.15582364]

Inceladus is tiny wtf

[Anonymous No.15582368]

>>15582364
More oceans than all of earths water

[Anonymous No.15582369]

>>15582344
For me it's SN11, the most bizarre thing.

[Anonymous No.15582370]

>>15582361
They don't really have anything that needs it until Change'e 6 and the Xuntian space telescope next year. China launches a lot but most of its payloads are tiny and going to undemanding orbits.

[Anonymous No.15582372]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L8OAIdsE4Q

[Anonymous No.15582374]

> no hoppers because the blast will send roggs into suborbital trajectories and frag shit in LLO
feels bad man

[Anonymous No.15582380]

>>15582363
Many japanese girlies have big boobs

[Anonymous No.15582384]

>>15582374
Was there any research on this beyond that one doomer paper?

[Anonymous No.15582386]

>>15582374
You use high-mounted oblique thrusters to get to a ~10-20 meter altitude and then engage the main engine, is this your first time on a rocket chair?

[Anonymous No.15582387]

>>15582370
Yeah and hopefully Interstellar Express after that

[Anonymous No.15582390]

>>15582368
Good, spinchads need swimming pools

[Anonymous No.15582394]

>>15582390
I would give my left nut to live in an orbital habitat even if it's a small bernal sphere.

[Anonymous No.15582402]

>>15582346
>only 44 F9 launches YTD
Damn way behind the schedule for 100 launches, it's ogre

[Anonymous No.15582407]

>>15582106
you realize there's a lawsuit about this sort of stuff on right now, right
the Judge just slapped the government's pp

[Anonymous No.15582412]

>>15582387
I don't doubt that IE is going to launch at some point, but I think the odds of it meeting its May 2024 launch date are pretty slim. There's at least one photo of something that looks like Xuntian hardware being worked on.

[Anonymous No.15582422]

>>15582390
O'Neils vision will never become reality.

[Anonymous No.15582423]

>>15582103
Thats not "his own" censorship. Thats Turkish gov's censorship. Twitter fought the court order and they lost.

Now Turkey punished twitter by banning trying to advertise on twitter, effectively killing twitter as a commercial service in twitter.

[Anonymous No.15582425]

>>15582305
they are all currently seething
>>15582380
wrong

[Anonymous No.15582427]

>>15582423
oh nice, now Twitter has zero incentive to ever obey the Turkish courts again

[Anonymous No.15582430]

>>15582427
No, they still have incentive to keep operating in twitter.

Furthermore, grooming and castration of children is still morally wrong.

[Anonymous No.15582433]

>>15582430
your robot is broken you stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.15582438]

>>15582433
Saying nigger doesn't absolve you from your immoral acts. Pedophilia is still illegal in most countries.

[Anonymous No.15582442]

not spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15582444]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1683179082228412416

[Anonymous No.15582447]

What's going on, I was told it would be a year before the launch mount was usable again?!?

[Anonymous No.15582451]

>>15582422
Why not?

[Anonymous No.15582452]

>>15582447
it's almost like you shouldn't believe Doomposting Earthnoid 5s

[Anonymous No.15582489]

>>15582447
No one said anything about the mount. The pad and QD arm? those are still beyond fucked

[Anonymous No.15582504]

>>15582489
no they arent you fag

[Anonymous No.15582529]

>>15582504
They are, and require massive modifications before the next launch, many months worth. I don't know what kind of fantasy you're living in but it's exhausting. Is SpaceX PR your entire personality?

[Anonymous No.15582534]

>>15582529
the pad is nearly finished and why are you talking about the QD arm? I think that has been finished too
the only thing they need to do is add the few plates that haven't been added to the pad, test it and modify the booster for hot staging

[Anonymous No.15582551]

>>15582534
It's not nearly finished, but you keep repeating it because that's what you want to believe. You look at pictures and pull an estimate out your ass. Ground infrastructure contruction historically has taken much longer than any other aspect of Starbase, and that will continue to be the case

[Anonymous No.15582552]

>>15582529
Pad's just about done. They're probably waiting for curing of the cements and stuff before finishing up.

[Anonymous No.15582556]

>>15582551
absolute retard

[Anonymous No.15582559]

>>15582552
I remember people saying the pad's just about done back in 2019

[Anonymous No.15582568]

>>15582559
Done or not they’ve launched off it before and they’ll do it again.

[Anonymous No.15582571]

>>15582568
Agreed, maybe next year

[Anonymous No.15582576]

https://youtu.be/xE1A6T1cycU
Ever wanted to know the difference between suborbit and orbit? Everyday Astronaut put on a new video for you

[Anonymous No.15582628]

>>15582576
Ok, one video where he goes over basic concepts. Despite >soi, he makes quality content and actual field work.

[Anonymous No.15582638]

Today, you will remember the Mars sludge from MRO

>>15582551
I'm guessing you missed the video where they repaired the arm and raised it's height? Or the piling and replacement work beneath the OLM? Seriously who are you trying to fool, NSF has these videos available right now in their recent catalog. It's not ready for launch but it's evidently not delayed a year like you claim it is.

[Anonymous No.15582642]

https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1683177399268126722

[Anonymous No.15582648]

>>15582642
https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1683185934559326211

maybe I should start watching these people
I just remember them speculating and talking about something retarded and spreading unsubstantiated rumours which put me off

[Anonymous No.15582649]

>>15582642
Its over
Shartshit cancelled

[Anonymous No.15582653]

>>15582648
> Here's a quick mockup for those having trouble with what happened! Everything else will have to wait until Tuesday! We'll take a detailed look in our next episode!

[Anonymous No.15582657]

https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/status/1682872122463473665

> Production Diagram #8 | 22nd July, 2023 | "Goodbye Ship 27"

[Anonymous No.15582659]

>>15582657
Updates since last diagram:
S25 conducts a Spin Prime and Static Fire.
S27 begins scrapping.
S28 moves to Masseys.
S29 aft flaps spotted with putative ID.
S30 Nosecone stacked on Payload Bay, beginning stacking.
S30 Mid-LOX shifted to confirmed ID.
S31 Mid-LOX spotted with putative ID.


B9 moves to Rocket Garden, then to the Launch Mount.
B10 moves to Rocket Garden.
B12 raceways installed.
2 grid fins installed on B12 CH4 tank.
B13 Forward Tank #2 and Aft Tank #4 spotted with uncertain ID.
Currently tracked B14 common dome is scrapped, but a new one is spotted with uncertain ID.
A Booster Aft Sleeve is scrapped, we are setting one of the new ones as B15 aft with uncertain ID.

[Anonymous No.15582664]

no stretched boosters yet?

[Anonymous No.15582672]

>>15582664
my booster will stretch you out

[Anonymous No.15582673]

>>15582638
And NSF will continue to milk you paypiggies for every little nothingburger bolt that's fastened. Who are YOU trying to fool? We'll see if it gets delayed a year or not, and you'll see too (next year)

[Anonymous No.15582678]

>>15582642
>they still havent solved pressure testing
fuck

[Anonymous No.15582682]

>>15582648
Felix is just making shit up lmao. He's completely retarded

[Anonymous No.15582685]

>>15582682
yeah after watching that video, I don't really see what he is getting at

[Anonymous No.15582695]

>>15582678
You're never gonna solve human error. The thing about making things fool-proof is that nature only invents an even bigger retard.

[Anonymous No.15582701]

>>15582695
>human error
made up. we dont know why it broke, for all we know they tested to destruction.

[Anonymous No.15582708]

>>15582701
Pressure differentials tend to be down to human error. They know what happens if they do that from experience, so why the fuck would they test whether the laws of physics had changed or not?

[Anonymous No.15582711]

>>15582664
They probably haven't tested if the skirt is strong enough in the first place

[Anonymous No.15582712]

Since I haven't given you the friendly reminder recently, nuclear propulsion is the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83GuverHrPs

[Anonymous No.15582713]

>>15582638
Mud volcanoes

[Anonymous No.15582718]

>>15582708
They test to destruction often enough. The possibility exists, sorry

[Anonymous No.15582725]

>>15582673
>Character attack
>Deflection
Classic. You were BTFO before you even posted, the videos are available right now. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.15582732]

>>15582712
How would you get around the safety hazard issues? One bad accident and a whole orbit is rendered unusable. Would short half-life material be used? Could cleansing work?

[Anonymous No.15582736]

>>15582725
>muh fallacies
Ok redditor! You can go back now. Kek!

[Anonymous No.15582741]

>>15582712
> still working with department of energy to get uranium
lol

[Anonymous No.15582749]

sex

[Anonymous No.15582753]

>>15582732
>One bad accident and a whole orbit is rendered unusable

Thank you for letting us know you don't understand how orbital mechanics work.

[Anonymous No.15582754]

>>15582718
They don't test pressure diffs because that's a pretty fucking known factor.
Last time it happened it was due to human error. This time too, would put down money on it.

[Anonymous No.15582755]

>>15582749
2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.15582758]

>>15582749
https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1683208736523911168

https://www.youtube.com/live/x9XZXv_unJM?feature=share

[Anonymous No.15582763]

[Anonymous No.15582767]

[Anonymous No.15582779]

>>15582749
How long until it’s complete?

[Anonymous No.15582781]

>>15582753
>theres an atomic rocket
>its ntr explodes in an accident
>fissile material gets spread out due to orbital mechanics
>that orbit band is screwed

[Anonymous No.15582784]

>>15582767
>huge gaping hole
looks like 6 months left for upgrades

[Anonymous No.15582787]

>>15582781
humans are polluting in space with radiation. ruining space

[Anonymous No.15582791]

>>15582787
Only if they use ntr drives. I prefer vanilla ones.

[Anonymous No.15582796]

>>15582784
that is like 12h pour and 2 day wait nigga

[Anonymous No.15582806]

>>15582796
I remember when the launch mount concrete columns took a year and a half to cure

[Anonymous No.15582812]

>>15582749
oh my god they looked down directly into the core. Everyone in that aircraft is now dead

[Anonymous No.15582826]

>>15582779
another month

[Anonymous No.15582827]

>>15582779
We don't know, hopefully before December 31st pending FAA approval

[Anonymous No.15582829]

>>15582657
why did they make 26 expendable then go back to tiles and flaps? They realized they had more time for production?

[Anonymous No.15582849]

>>15582576
Most people don't learn anything about space after grammar school, which means they don't know shit about space, so it makes sense to suck them up instead of spending all his time on topics like soviet rocket engines or whatever. Most people think branson, bezos, and musk are in the same ball park and they are not. Two of them had ventures that weren't as cool as the concorde and the other guy launches orbital rockets.

This video is quite detailed btw. If you just lurk here and have midwit understanding of space like me I'd recommend it.

[Anonymous No.15582851]

>>15582767
none of that rebar was there 9 days ago

[Anonymous No.15582854]

>>15582369
>Fly ghost ship prototype
>you can't see anything
>maybe this was a bad idea

[Anonymous No.15582855]

btw one thing that the cryo test proved is that the tank farm is fixed (probably has been fixed for a while though)
I don't understand these constant doomer takes? like do you people sincerely believe what you say or what

[Anonymous No.15582857]

>>15582234
speaking of flying boosters without starship, should they really do that to test the tower catch? Like build a shitty tower with fixed chopsticks and float it over

[Anonymous No.15582860]

>>15581793
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1682951895957090304
He's going for antimatter ignited pure fusion bombs!

[Anonymous No.15582865]

>>15582114
Designing a system that can fill the starship quickly would only save a few hours every few months, and you spent time doing that instead of making a rocket that can get to orbit. Also the rocket itself is a factor. If a rocket has flown dozens or hundreds of times filling it fast doesn't sound so dangerous as one that has a small chance to collapse on the pad.

[Anonymous No.15582874]

>>15582529
my brother they just used the arms and QD

[Anonymous No.15582877]

>>15582763
based, let that spamming nigger have it
you can tell it's him because he's the only person who spams articles about shit everybody already knows about

[Anonymous No.15582881]

>>15582791
nakadashi drive

[Anonymous No.15582884]

>>15582529
I know this is shitposting but only the ship's QD needed modding for hotstaging and I think that's already done

[Anonymous No.15582885]

>>15582653
>>15582648

I don't understand. shouldn't the common dome have the same thickness steel as the hull? shouldn't it have support struts?

[Anonymous No.15582888]

>>15582855
Ironic doomers from a year or so ago became anti-Musk over time.

Its just that they convinced themselves of their own ironic shitposting

[Anonymous No.15582896]

>>15582855
some people are, in fact, fives

[Anonymous No.15582904]

https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1683223988686782464

buying twitter was not just a whim

[Anonymous No.15582921]

>>15582904
https://twitter.com/lindayacc/status/1683213895463215104

[Anonymous No.15582931]

>>15582904
One central app for everything being a success sounds like the road to hell no matter how much I like the guy running it

[Anonymous No.15582949]

>>15582931
that seems to be the prevailing reaction to this, but apps like that are a thing in asia already

[Anonymous No.15582963]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvwF3P8eF6Q

45mins

[Anonymous No.15582973]

>>15582949
I don’t know but I’ve been told that in a lot of the third world “the internet” and “facebook” are synonymous. Something about them being able to have wifi heavily discounted but only for facebook and whatsapp etc.
Maybe elon’s trying to get a slice of that pie. Design an all in one platform and sell it to thirdies via starlink.

[Anonymous No.15582986]

>>15582921
This shit is getting so tiresome.

BUILD THE FUCKING ROCKETS

[Anonymous No.15582991]

>>15582855
It was nitrogen retard, not CH4/LOX

[Anonymous No.15582997]

>>15582991
you think methane tanks are more difficult to fix than liquid oxygen? lmao

[Anonymous No.15582999]

>>15582904
Wow elon is really play 42069D chess (nice!) haha

[Anonymous No.15583001]

>>15582921
These people are fucking insane

[Anonymous No.15583007]

>>15582973
A lot of that is due to lack of connectivity. The third world has shit all network access outside the major cities, whether due to geography or just local incompetence/poverty. Facebook pays the local telcos to subsidize access because they make more money with a captive audience. Elon would get the local government to greenlight Starlink instead since it solves the geography question forever.

[Anonymous No.15583046]

>>15582368
is anyone planning mass transportation of ice from Saturnian moons and rings to Mars?

[Anonymous No.15583060]

>>15583046
Science fiction has rotted your brain

[Anonymous No.15583062]

>>15583046
That requires nuclear propulsion. Delta-V is too high for chemical and sunlight is too diffuse out there.

[Anonymous No.15583069]

>>15583046
I don't think you get what "mass transportation" entails. even if you could transport as much ice per year as we transport all shipping now, it would take you centuries to move a sizeable lakes worth of water.

[Anonymous No.15583084]

>>15582806
It wasn't for curing, it's because they needed to do a bunch of re-engineering and steel fabrication, and everyone saying that they were waiting for the concrete to harden is a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15583124]

>>15582881
What's its specific impulse?

[Anonymous No.15583135]

>>15583084
so you believe nsf now but not back then? at least youre consistent. consistently dumb

[Anonymous No.15583143]

>>15582196
He is grudgingly accepting that it's going to be HLS on the moon first, that's all.

[Anonymous No.15583144]

>>15583135
Who do you think you're talking to? I don't believe NSF now or back then.

[Anonymous No.15583147]

>>15583144
Who are you then, reveal yourself

[Anonymous No.15583149]

>>15583124
420.69

[Anonymous No.15583166]

>>15583069
yes, and? I wouldn't expect terraforming to be a quick process.

[Anonymous No.15583167]

is L2 chads on /sfg/ anymore? got any secret knowledge?

[Anonymous No.15583209]

>>15583147
All of my posts ITT
>>15583135
>>15583144

[Anonymous No.15583211]

Anyone have that sexy dog girl rocket owo

[Anonymous No.15583214]

>>15583147
All of my posts ITT:
>>15583144
>>15583084

[Anonymous No.15583217]

>>15583167
I'm on L3, premium

[Anonymous No.15583220]

>>15582885
It's the wrong shape to support loads in the wrong direction, like how you can't stand up a rope

[Anonymous No.15583243]

[Anonymous No.15583260]

QRD on Phantom Space?

[Anonymous No.15583261]

>>15583217
tell me what you know

[Anonymous No.15583278]

>>15583261
Spike dies

[Anonymous No.15583280]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXtO574ImIg
T-59:00, maybe

[Anonymous No.15583281]

>>15583278
L dies.
Dumbledore dies.

[Anonymous No.15583283]

>>15583278
Luke is his father

[Anonymous No.15583288]

>>15583261
Oppenheimer gets the girl

[Anonymous No.15583294]

>>15582196
>>15583143
Samefaggot. Nobody cares about this literal who Felon-Huskbot#8339210-A

[Anonymous No.15583305]

>>15582949
Yeah and like china if the government gets their grubby hands on it it, it's really over

[Anonymous No.15583312]

>>15582921
What the world needs, another company trying to consolidate everyone's data on everything and limiting our freedom.
But more relevant to /sfg/, rebranding Twitter to X (beyond being retarded from a marketing perspective) will make it sound more like SpaceX, and that equivalency really doesn't need to exist.

>>15583260
scam company by a serial scammer, fell for the "mass producing small rockets" meme, claims to be developing propulsive reuse for small rockets, uses Ursa Major engines, and most famously tried passing off a render as real

[Anonymous No.15583329]

>>15583260
Phantom Space will be launching from Arnhem Space Center in Australia and SLC-13 in Florida.

[Anonymous No.15583330]

>expectations; finally we can get the fuck off this rock
>reality; take the brain chip for the everything app, non-compliance will be noted

[Anonymous No.15583335]

>>15582576
This is a good video. It actually explains that there's no such thing as "sub orbit" depending on how you define orbit (probably the wrong way). If I throw a ball on earth it's actually in an "orbit", the problem is the orbit intersects the ground.

[Anonymous No.15583348]

>>15583335
just to be clear tim didn't say this and I'm not paraphrasing him at all

[Anonymous No.15583389]

>>15583348
you're tim

[Anonymous No.15583420]

>>15583280
T-5:00

[Anonymous No.15583421]

Clear...

[Anonymous No.15583425]

>>15583421
Big White Rocket is erect

[Anonymous No.15583433]

hey guys do you think we will ever have cheap space travel in our life times my lifes end goal is to be buried on Pluto cuz its my favourite planet

[Anonymous No.15583436]

Go Falcon!

[Anonymous No.15583438]

Max-Qute!

[Anonymous No.15583440]

Woah holy shit

[Anonymous No.15583442]

this was a quite kino shot

[Anonymous No.15583443]

>making their own dawn and sunset

[Anonymous No.15583444]

I fucking love space

[Anonymous No.15583445]

>>15583433
PWNBARP

[Anonymous No.15583446]

I love these nighttime launches where you can see the sunrise over the horizon

Need a webm of this

[Anonymous No.15583450]

>tfw SpaceX now has enough money to put HD cams on the expendable upper stage for a random Starlink launch

[Anonymous No.15583451]

>>15583433
you will die on this rock specifically because you're a retard who likes a stupid rock, not because we haven't become a multiplanetary species

[Anonymous No.15583452]

>>15583446
There was one posted from the last launch. They've had great timing for the last couple of flights.

[Anonymous No.15583454]

>>15583433
We have just begun the era of “really cheap space flight” with F9 and now Starship. Unfortunately it’s “cheap” relative to its huge price, it won’t be “cheap” in the sense that you can planet hop like some RPG sci fi video game

[Anonymous No.15583455]

Starship is still NET August so far.
How long will these two weeks actually last? I'm betting for NET October.

[Anonymous No.15583456]

>>15583454
QI drive fixes this

[Anonymous No.15583458]

>>15583421
i love my wife

[Anonymous No.15583465]

another perfect landing
boring

[Anonymous No.15583474]

>>15583433
I think starship will work. The only thing preventing "cheap" space travel is spacex may never have a competitor in your life time to start a price war

[Anonymous No.15583508]

>>15583474
they could start a colony themselves, wholly spacex-owned. it could still be cheap ticket price without competition, but wont be at the beginning, and may simply be determined by demand and mid-upper class buyers. spacex would need to forfit their margins voluntarily to have middle class buyers

[Anonymous No.15583511]

>>15581767
>we no longer possess the culture or the spirit to even dream of it.
colonization was never about this

[Anonymous No.15583516]

>>15582364
I wonder how it even manages to be so round

[Anonymous No.15583525]

>>15583511
Moron

[Anonymous No.15583526]

>>15583525
I see no arguments there

[Anonymous No.15583533]

[Anonymous No.15583537]

If Biden tries to assassinate Musk because Musk continues to expose the corruption, what can Musk do?

[Anonymous No.15583540]

>>15583537
glass the earthers?

[Anonymous No.15583541]

[Anonymous No.15583544]

>>15581176
Based

[Anonymous No.15583545]

>>15583526
Same as you then

[Anonymous No.15583553]

>>15583166
And mars wouldn't hold liquid water because of meme atmosphere

[Anonymous No.15583593]

[Anonymous No.15583605]

Even Elon knows the truth. And that is that there are no ayys. The universe is what humans make of it, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.15583663]

>>15583605
elon is dumb as fuck. we've seen the pentagon videos

[Anonymous No.15583673]

Anyone here going to bid on the golden record master tape

>>15583663
may I introduce you to Mick West?

[Anonymous No.15583688]

>>15583663
>we've seen the pentagon videos
>it came to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.15583744]

its been so long since we've seen starship testing that i dont remember what comes next

[Anonymous No.15583748]

>>15583605
thats not scary. scary is something like season 1 star trek / mass effect, or dark forest theory / grabby aliens. if we're alone then at least we're secure. if we're not alone, then we havent heard from anyone because it's brutal out there.

[Anonymous No.15583761]

>>15583744
Spin prime.

[Anonymous No.15583763]

>>15583744
It gets towed back to the shed and the next one flies

[Anonymous No.15583772]

>>15583744
two weeks of prep and testing

[Anonymous No.15583774]

>>15582218
that kid looks like a cross between musk and michael jackson. i can't unsee.

[Anonymous No.15583790]

27

[Anonymous No.15583791]

I'm still waiting to go down to watch in person for the first arm catch desu

[Anonymous No.15583803]

Lander when?

[Anonymous No.15583807]

>>15583803
I hardly know her!

[Anonymous No.15583810]

>>15583807
Her name is Phobos and she's beautiful

[Anonymous No.15583818]

>>15581993
Energy requirements for mining vehicles are relatively tiny on Earth, and Mars has much less gravity. Not a problem. Also, even one little skinsteer could easily mine enough 1% ice-by-weight regolith to produce enough fuel to fill a Starship in the roughly 18 months time between landing and leaving.

[Anonymous No.15583824]

>>15583818
how do you power the skidsteer? the ice is at the poles where sunlight is less prevalent right

[Anonymous No.15583831]

>>15583824
Ice is literally fucking everywhere on mars stupid newfag

[Anonymous No.15583838]

Did spx learn anything from the 24&7 orbital flight test that's applicable to future ships and would cause them to modify the designs?

Unreliable raptor 1's and hydraulics don't apply

[Anonymous No.15583843]

>>15583838
yes. Over 300 changes between the old booster and this one or something like that. Old booster was 'artisanal' according to musk. New one will work.

[Anonymous No.15583847]

don't forget to update your bookmarks
https://x.com/elonmusk/with_replies

[Anonymous No.15583858]

>>15583843
are you sure those changes are specifically after the flight test

[Anonymous No.15583865]

>>15583858
oh specific to the flight test? I think they tweaked the FTS, and of course engine protection (mainly protecting engines from OTHER engines).
I'm quite confident they'll stage and get starship to orbit-ish in august.

[Anonymous No.15583873]

>>15583824
pedal power

[Anonymous No.15583878]

>>15583847
Last time Musk tried to push his stupid X name idea (unless you count space X) he was a nobody. Now that he's got the money and influence, it could work DESPITE how bad it is.

[Anonymous No.15583883]

>>15583878
I hope Egosoft sues him

[Anonymous No.15583891]

Space[math]\mathbb{X}[/math]

[Anonymous No.15583909]

>>15581481
There are still elements in NASA that absolutely hate Musk and think SLS/National team was what should have been chosen.

[Anonymous No.15583918]

>>15583891
https://x.com/spacex/with_replies

[Anonymous No.15583927]

Explanation: Meteors can be colorful. While the human eye usually cannot discern many colors, cameras often can. Pictured here is a fireball, a disintegrating meteor that was not only one of the brightest the photographer has ever seen, but colorful. The meteor was captured by chance in mid-July with a camera set up on Hochkar Mountain in Austria to photograph the central band of our Milky Way galaxy. The radiant grit, likely cast off by a comet or asteroid long ago, had the misfortune to enter Earth's atmosphere. Colors in meteors usually originate from ionized chemical elements released as the meteor disintegrates, with blue-green typically originating from magnesium, calcium radiating violet, and nickel glowing green. Red, however, typically originates from energized nitrogen and oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere. This bright meteoric fireball was gone in a flash -- less than a second -- but it left a wind-blown ionization trail that remained visible for almost a minute.

[Anonymous No.15583975]

>>15583445
Asstroonomer pretending they’re relevant detected

[Anonymous No.15583988]

>>15583975
>Defund all astronomy
>Fund faster starship development
>Build advanced telescope on the moon and cheap space telescopes that were previously mass restricted
>????
>astronomy on the ground mostly obsolete

>defund all environmentalists
>fund faster starship development
>colonization technology and testing develops ahead of schedule
>tech helps create sustainable techniques anyways
>???
>environmentalism obsolete

[Anonymous No.15583992]

>The CE-20 is a cryogenic rocket engine developed by the Liquid Propulsion Systems Centre (LPSC), a subsidiary of the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO). It has been developed to power the upper stage of the LVM3.[5] It is the first Indian cryogenic engine to feature a gas-generator cycle.[6] The high thrust cryogenic engine is the most powerful upper stage cryogenic engine in operational service.[7]

I dun ge eet
Raptors heavier than feathers

[Anonymous No.15584003]

Kind of interesting how Falcon 9 Block 5 and Soyuz 2 were neck-and-neck with who was launching more until Falcon 9 just steamrolled them with cadence. And Soyuz 2 barely flies now.

[Anonymous No.15584020]

>>15583748
oh hello there mr John Michael Godier

[Anonymous No.15584046]

>>15582888
Checked. Ironyposting can only remain ironic for so long.

[Anonymous No.15584052]

>>15583281
Sanguinius dies

[Anonymous No.15584080]

>>15584052
Elon dies
Shotwell dies

[Anonymous No.15584092]

Staging

>>15584090
>>15584090
>>15584090

[Anonymous No.15584179]

>>15583673
>may I introduce you to Mick West?
> this guy shares my fear of aliens, I'll cling to him as a soothing ritual!

[Anonymous No.15584213]

>>15583001
Nah it's just the usual buzzword soup that these people always spit out in their endless quest to try and get more and more money.

[Anonymous No.15584336]

>>15584052
Noooooooooo

[Anonymous No.15584525]

>>15584052
tony stark dies