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Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:57:01 2023 No.15578959 [Reply] [Original]

Why can numbers be multiplied by 0 but not divided by 0?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 02:58:39 2023 No.15578962 >>15578959 >>Why can numbers be multiplied by 0 >implying

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:04:01 2023 No.15578968 File: 473 KB, 2048x819, JoAeMqX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15578959 Because Mathematics is a field full of 128 IQ normies even at the highest level at Oxford. Actual geniuses know that anything divided by 0 is infinity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:08:26 2023 No.15578975 >>15578968 Anything divided by 0 would be 0, just like how anything multiplied by 0 is 0.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:08:30 2023 No.15578976 >>15578959 Here's a way to look at it from a calc 1 perspective. What's the limit of 100/X as x gets smaller and tends towards zero? What's the limit of 100*X as x gets smaller and tends towards zero?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:22:28 2023 No.15579000 >>15578975 Think about what you just said. Try to explain your point and you will realize you are a retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:27:17 2023 No.15579008 >>15579000 Dividing 1 by 1/x is equivalent to multiplying 1 by x/1. What do you think multiplying 1 by 0/1 is equivalent to? Idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 03:33:16 2023 No.15579016 >>15578975 hey retard, you are a fag and you should kys

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:51:20 2023 No.15579116
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>>15578968
>>15578975
You fucking retards....

Anything divided by zero is the original number.
10 / 0 = 10. You simply didn't divide, because it's zero.

Anything multiplied by zero is zero because you're saying there's zero original numbers.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:57:25 2023 No.15579126

>>15579008
That's not the question. You answered 1/(1/0)=0. While that is true, In reality you just proved that 1/0 is infinity, since 1/infinity=0.
What you're meant to answer is simply 1/0 by itself. And you kinda already did accidentally, but you don't get it. Try to figure that one out friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 04:59:31 2023 No.15579130 >inb4 nooo 10 / 1 is the original number idiot Both are true. 10 / 1 is saying you split 10 up into a bunch of ones and then add them back together again. 10 / 0.0000... is infinity. 10 / 0 is saying that you don't divide at all in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:11:25 2023 No.15579153 Assuming that multiplication is the inverse of division is retarded, demonic, and wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:24:42 2023 No.15579175 >>15579126 >>15579153 (samefag) >1 x (x/1) = 1 / (1/x) = x >Yes, I agree >OK, so 1 x (0/1) = 1 / (1/0) = 0 >NOOOOOOOOO THATS HECKIN LE DEMONIC Hopeless retard basketcase

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:27:03 2023 No.15579179

>>15578959
Here's a useful rule of arithmetic that we'd like to be true.

0*a=0 for any number a. 0 times anything is 0.

Another useful rule is that for any number a there exists another number a' such that a*a'=1. For example 5*(1/5)=1. Say there was a number 0' such that 0*0'=1. This violates our previous rule that 0 times anything is 0.

Either we agree to not let 0' exist (in other words 1/0 is invalid) or we get rid of one of the rules.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:27:10 2023 No.15579180 >>15579175 Not an argument. Prove that division is the inverse of multiplication. You can't, because 1/0 = 1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:31:45 2023 No.15579188 >>15579126 >1/infinity=0 No it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:38:37 2023 No.15579198 >>15579179 0 is not a number, it is the absence of a number, like infinity. That's why infinity/0 = 1

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:39:57 2023 No.15579205 >>15579198 Infinity is the opposite of an absence of numbers. Infinity is the inverse of 0. Multiplication is NOT the inverse of division.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:46:09 2023 No.15579217 1+0 = 1 1-0 = 1 1x0 = 1 1/0 = 1 1^0 = 1 √1 = 1 How many did i get wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:47:53 2023 No.15579221 >>15579217 Those are all correct.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:51:31 2023 No.15579232 >>15579205 >Multiplication is NOT the inverse of division. Yes it is. F(x) = x*n F inverse (x)= x/n Explain how this happened retardo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:55:17 2023 No.15579246 >>15579232 That's undefined. It breaks the basic rules of arithmetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:55:35 2023 No.15579248 >>15579180 Yes, calling something demonic is not an argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 05:57:30 2023 No.15579257 >>15579246 We have successfully implanted new schizo vocab

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:01:59 2023 No.15579269

>>15579175
>>1 x (x/1) = 1 / (1/x) = x
>>Yes, I agree
>>OK, so 1 x (0/1) = 1 / (1/0) = 0
That is correct, but since you are retarded and lack a faustian spirit, you didn't go all the way to the real answer.
1/ (1/x) = x
so 1= x * (1/x)
1 / (1/0) = 0
1= 0 * (1/0)
anything times 0 equals 0

1=0

If you disagree, you are a retard and should kys. If you agree, congratulations, your IQ is 140+

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:03:55 2023 No.15579274 >>15578968 0+, not 0, if "anything divided by 0 is infinity" I could say the same about negative infinity

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:04:00 2023 No.15579275 >>15579246 Do you have peer reviewed published research backing your claim?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:08:09 2023 No.15579281 >>15579248 You are an undefined demonic error.

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:09:28 2023 No.15579283
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>>15578959
multiplication is "start from 0 and add a number x times" so it makes sense to choose not to add any
division is "start from a number and split it into x chunks" so it makes sense for "zero chunks" to be an impossible concept
i failed calculus btw

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:23:44 2023 No.15579312

>>15579274
For something to be negative or positive, it must have a defined magnitude. infinity doesn't have a defined magnitude. Saying negative infinity is just like saying negative zero. Both don't exist.
"Negative infinity" is just a convenient way of saying getting to infinity through the negative path. That is to say, no matter which path you take, negative or positive, at the end, the destination is the same, just infinity.
Think about it in terms of reality. There is a direction. You can move forward or backwards in space (Positive or negative). You can say I moved "+2 feet", meaning you moved forward by a mgnitude of 2 feet. But once you are outside of reality (Which is what infinity is, it is not "Real", it is beyond real. Just like Zero is beneath real, or lack of reality), there is no space, no directions. No positives, no negatives. Since there is no space, there is no "where" to move to, there is no "2 feet" neither in the positive nor in the negative, there is no magnitude of anything at all. It's all just infinity. Just infinite magnitude, infinite everything, beyond human comprehension. There is no "negative" of this infinity.

In short, I could say something like this
-(infinity) = (-1)(infinity) = (infinity)

>tl:dr Negative Infinity is not a thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 06:29:13 2023 No.15579323 >>15579283 >i failed calculus btw Well then you're probably the most qualified to discuss transfinites in this thread, ironically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:15:18 2023 No.15579427 0 does not exist

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:18:22 2023 No.15579433 >>15579427 How do you say that again ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 07:31:43 2023 No.15579465 >>15579217 twe, mult an div

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 08:26:54 2023 No.15579548 0 does not exist. it's a concept like infinity. when you "multiply" by 0 you describe a concept of turning something into 0.

>>	Barkun Sat Jul 22 08:31:14 2023 No.15579555 >>15579548 You can divide by 0 but the maths base system we use is false on many accounts of fucking retardation. You literally think there's no number smaller than 1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 08:35:37 2023 No.15579562 0 is the concept of the black hole. "multiplying" by it means throwing something into a black hole. the event horizon turns it into nothing in our outside-the-event-horizon reality.

>>	Barkun Sat Jul 22 08:36:48 2023 No.15579564 >>15579562 Dividing by zero always produces a unique result

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 08:37:23 2023 No.15579565 >>15579564 just like radiation away from a black hole

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:07:28 2023 No.15579740 >>15578959 DAMN this is actually a good question

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 22 11:19:25 2023 No.15579758 >>15579740 its always the simple and approachable statements with the most relentless proofs. This one seems to involve cosmology, quantum mechanics, and infinities. Who knew

Anonymous Sat Jul 22 13:20:19 2023 No.15579854

>>15578959
When dividing imagine splitting an object like an apple into equal groups.
So 1/1 is 'splitting' the object into an equal group of 1, a whole apple, 1/2 splitting into equal groups of two leaving two halves of an apple at the end 0.5, etc.
So what would it mean to divide an object until it is zero equal groups? It's a kinda paradoxical statement.
Like would it mean you just keep dividing into infinitely smaller groups? What would be the number at the end then?
Does it mean the apple just wouldn't be?
There isn't really an answer for it.

Cult of Passion Sat Jul 22 15:25:03 2023 No.15579973
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>>15579555
>You literally think there's no number smaller than 1.
Correct, each unit is 1 and all are proportions of side lenght ones as a ratios.

t.Number Theory Condo Xeno

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:33:41 2023 No.15581209 >>15579427 Yes it does. Consider how many bitches you've fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 05:42:25 2023 No.15581223 >>15578959 0 is not a number

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 06:10:08 2023 No.15581255 >>15581209 so you say the fucking did not exist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 06:10:37 2023 No.15581258 >>15581209 exactly bitches he's fucked don't exist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 06:43:41 2023 No.15581310 File: 270 KB, 600x835, FaceApp_1690094595995.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15581258

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:11:01 2023 No.15581342 >>15578959 If I gave you the number y in the equation 0*x = y, could you tell me what x was? No, you can't. And that's why you can't divide by 0.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:14:19 2023 No.15581348 >>15579973 Penis = ass + butt + cunt

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:26:30 2023 No.15581373 File: 132 KB, 516x640, 1689575898713344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15581348 benas

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:30:19 2023 No.15581382 >>15581373 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzVqnIyFBFA

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 07:45:48 2023 No.15581404 >>15579973 what algebra does to a mf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 08:30:52 2023 No.15581470 >>15579973 no P = a + b + c + d d = 0 units (fourth side is has magnitude 0)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 11:31:07 2023 No.15581665 X / 0 = link to the more recent /sci/ thread about division by zero

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 23 13:14:49 2023 No.15581817 >>15578968 >How much nothing does an abstract something have in it >Infinity Okay then.

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