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Low Earth Orbit destinations edition

Previous: >>15549863

>> No.15554407

>>15554401
Imagine 200 ton Starship fully and rapidly usable

>> No.15554411

/sfg/ is dead

>> No.15554413

>>15554411
good

>> No.15554418

>>15554401
orbital reef doesnt belong here

>> No.15554425
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Reminder that regime change in Venezuela enables the Star Raker SSTGEO trajectory.

>> No.15554430

linking to this.
>>15554397
i like this account its the right balance of going into detail while refraining from speculation.

>> No.15554439

>>15554401
Based station

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For the cost of Twitter, Elon could have built a Tethered Ring and gotten us to Type 1 Civilization by now.

https://youtu.be/b3O1gtr_oAk
https://youtu.be/8B2iqiKehyM

>> No.15554447
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bay station

>> No.15554448

I remember reading years ago that raptor vacuum is actually not as efficient as it could be, is that still true? like elon initially was gonna do all sea level on starship because Rvac was taking too long, then it was being built but he said it was less than ideal performance. the fact they can fire it at sea level with only stiffeners makes me think it isnt the ideal nozzle size, plus they really cant make them bigger if they want tge sea levels raptors on the ship to be steerable

>> No.15554455

>>15554448
It helps that base raptor was already good and is only getting better. I agree with you; my assumption is that Rvac started out as “highly unoptimixed”, it’s gotten better, and over the next 5ish years will only be further and further optimized

>> No.15554457

>>15554455
>unoptimixed
New word just dropped

>> No.15554502

Business idea: Brothels, but in space. Coomers love departing with their money.

>> No.15554515

i wanna fuck that new nsf boy's baby smooth bum bum 8^)

>> No.15554518

>>15554448
What do you think bro?
it's 300 bar chamber pressure

>> No.15554519

Can you even fit 200 tons inside Starship?

>> No.15554520

>>15554519
yes. In leu of milled aluminum, future satellites will be cast lead.

>> No.15554521

>>15554518
vacuum raptor is supposed to have very good isp in vacuum. at this time it does not

>> No.15554522
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/07/get-comfortable-in-the-solar-system-well-be-here-for-a-while/

>> No.15554526
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/astronomers-solve-mystery-of-how-a-mirror-like-planet-formed-so-close-to-its-star/

>> No.15554529
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/spacex-launches-its-fleet-leading-rocket-booster-for-record-16th-time/

>> No.15554532
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https://spacenews.com/ai-quantum-and-nuclear-technologies-are-key-to-lockheed-martins-vision-for-space-2050/

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>>15554401
MANNED INTERSTELLAR TRAVEL IN OUR DAYS, ONLY FAGGOTS WILL SETTLE WITH LESS
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q77Ol7eUtO4&pp=ygUQdGhlIGxhc3QgaW4gbGluZQ%3D%3D

>> No.15554535

i have a cut in between my little toe and my second to last toe

>> No.15554536
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https://spacenews.com/benchmark-raises-33-million-in-series-b-round/

>> No.15554541
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https://www.space.com/chandrayaan-3-indian-moon-mission-rover

>>15554535
WHY

>> No.15554544

ON RED MARS ROBOT DINOSAURS RETARDS NEED NOT APPLY

>> No.15554546
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https://payloadspace.com/voyager-space-teams-up-with-indias-nsil-to-collaborate-on-space-tech/

>> No.15554579

don't forget your daily /sfg/ post anons
it's good for the soul

>>15554519
that's 200 cubic meters of water. Interior volume is like 1000 meters? Yeah easy.

>> No.15554598
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We could be getting 4 new space suits instead of 2

2 EVA and 2 Lunar suits

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-expands-options-for-spacewalking-moonwalking-suits-services/

Previously Collins was making the EVA suit and Axiom the Lunar suit, now they could both be making one of each

>> No.15554600

>>15554519
Refilling will be large portion of flights.
This directly benefits that.

>> No.15554630

>>15554448
At 300 bar chamber you can make an essentially infinite nozzle size

>> No.15554680

Anyone feel like Starship will never not be in development?

Its always new this new that, new engines, new hot staging, new number of engines, its like the Starship program is in perpetual R&D and wont have a final standardized design like Falcon 9

>> No.15554692

>>15554680
Starship development will continue well into Mars mission. It will only be stopped once Starsip 2 starts being comissioned

>> No.15554700

Does anyone else this starship is way too big to fly? It will never get off the ground, much less through maxq

>> No.15554714

>>15554680
huge cope if you think this is a problem.
this is supposed to be THE rocket.
refinement is hugely necessary.
also you weren't around for falcon.

>> No.15554716

>>15554522
What if we dropped interplanetary ambitions and focused on understanding our home(earth) first

>> No.15554733

>>15554680
Darwinian development process. SpaceX is a cybernetic corporate organism, not a monolithic military operation.

>> No.15554740

>>15554716
cuckfagnigger

>> No.15554752

>>15554716
If we want to learn how to control climate change, Mars would be a good laboratory.

>> No.15554753

what if i on mars yet dead? death on mars?

>> No.15554758

>>15554753
astronauts die if they are killed

>> No.15554763

>>15554758
WHAT

>> No.15554766

>>15554758
is that the only way

>> No.15554794
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>>15554401
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>> No.15554802

We should send a laser pointer to the moon.
No science payload or anything, just a lander with some solar panels and a bright laser beam that tracks earth and blinks 24/7/365

>> No.15554820

>>15554802
what would be the point

>> No.15554821

>>15554802
We should make a fleet of smallsats with 10W lasers to burn through enemy spysats.

>> No.15554830
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>>15554802
It'd just get lost in the light from the rest of the lunar surface. If you charged a battery with the panels and fired the laser at Earth during lunar night it might be spotted

>> No.15554833

The Earth Meets All Requirements of the IAU Definition for “Planet”

>> No.15554837

>>15554820
You could see it from the ground and that'd be neato.

>> No.15554851

>>15554833
(user was excommunicated for this post)

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>>15554700
It's already been through maxq, retard.

>> No.15554869

>>15554837
You wouldn't see shit

>> No.15554870

>>15554700
Are you stupid

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>>15554544
>>15554680
>>15554716
>>15554753
>>15554758
>>15554752
>>15554794
>>15554802
>>15554821
>>15554833
>>15554515
>>15554544
>>15554535

You fucking faggots

>>15554519
Ur mum was filled with 200 dicks and cum so is very possible

CAPTCHA: GTA4S

>> No.15554878

>>15554837
but we can't even see an Earth laser from the ISS ( Cody's lab tested it )

>> No.15554888

>>15554869
>>15554878
Aw :(

>> No.15554894
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ISRO roadmap, looks like they are planning a reusable heavy vehicle

>> No.15554905

>>15554894
I think most people have seen the writing on the wall and are “planning” reusability with an ambiguous “large” sized launcher. I don’t think anyone except SX known how they are going to do it though.

>> No.15554907

>>15554894
>gay nyan

>> No.15554920

>>15554894
Big props to india and china. It’s fun seeing new players develop their own independent capabilities, and it’s interesting seeing how they pull from a) american/soviet space history and b) current spacex innovation

>> No.15554925

>>15554920
Oh shit I forgot about ESA and JAXA but oh well, kek. I guess europe japan and (formerly) britain are “phase 2” in the history of space flight. Phase 3 is either spacex and commercial market, or india and china entering the industry with potentially huge programs dethroning roscosmos

>> No.15554926

Does our Milky Way meet IAU definition of 'galaxy'

>> No.15554933

>>15554926
Do we meet the galaxy's definition of 'intellegent'

>> No.15554932
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QRD and update on quantized inertia? When will we have anti-gravity SSTO's?

>> No.15554942

>>15554932
First test flight got pushed back to Transporter-9 due to a problem with the satellite bus.

>> No.15554947

>>15554942
>test flight
Are you memeing or are they actually going to test something like this?

>> No.15554954

How do I buy colony bonds? I’m looking to acquire currency investing in new colonies wherever in the solar system

>> No.15554955

>>15554441
He also could’ve started his own Social Media network for much less.
Zuckerberg created a Twitter clone too.

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>>15554430
https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/status/1678461788377980938

>> No.15554973

>>15554430
>>15554957
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1678461788377980938.html if you want the entire thread

>>15554448
The one thing like that I remember about Raptor in general was that they did a change (I think wider throat) that increases thrust while sacrificing some Isp. I don't remember anything specific for RVac, presumably if they could drop the stiffeners to only fire in vacuum it'd weigh less?

>>15554519
Just depends on what you put inside. For now the more important question is if you can get volume-filling things out of (and I suppose into) Starship.

>>15554522
>interstellar ambitions
As if. Gib interstellar probe reee

>>15554867
He's a retard, but maxq was much lower and slower than intended, so were the forces really comparable to a proper mission?

>> No.15554974

0 memes 100% serious
how likely do you think is it ESA/EU will get their shit together within the next few decades?

>> No.15554977

>>15554974
I feel like the space flight sector is way too unpredictable to say. Musk was being laughed at in 2015, now look at him. No one saw this coming.
It all depends on how ESA plans out their future, what type of leadership they have, etc

>> No.15554980
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15554980

Explain

https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en

>> No.15554982

>>15554980
I built one, it works. It's explained in the image

>> No.15554983

>>15554980
57 is the tape outgassing drive

>> No.15554989
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>>15554974
Europe has always had excellent engineering talent paired with dogshit management. That's not likely to change any time soon. Space in Europe has been a jobs program for just as long as it has been in America. You don't reform an oldspace-style culture; you out-compete it and kill it off. What Europe really needs is one or two eccentric continental billionaires to commit to space the way Musk and Bezos have, but that's not likely to happen until they completely uproot and reform their weirdo collectivist regulatory structure.

To make European space competitive, you have completely change the way economic activity is structured in Europe.

>> No.15554990

>>15554974
I think those entities will unironically cease to exist before they get their shit together. The kind of organizational degradation undergone by the EU isn't non-destructively reversible.
A full dismantling of the EU and reassessment of the relationships between its former member states will need to take place before that region of the world can accomplish anything useful again. It's like that chart of the progression from startup -> bloated legacy company that gets posted here sometimes, where administrative efforts begin to eclipse accomplishments as a company ages. The EU is almost wholly occupied with administration and has no room for ambition.

>> No.15555014

What impact will this have on spaceflight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAv214CdFQ

>> No.15555025

Why can’t Elon just build the fucking rockets, oh my god just shut the fuck up

>> No.15555028

>>15554947
He's not meming you. There is, in fact, a meme company meming it.

>> No.15555029

>>15554974
>Arianespace
I have a bad feeling
>EU
If Arianespace doesn't make ESA kill the space startups, they may have a chance of getting a Rocket Lab-tier company going

>> No.15555031
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>>15555025
Yeah

>> No.15555033

>>15555025
king of outer space, slave to cyberspace

>> No.15555035

>>15555025
cope harder

>> No.15555036

>>15555014
IT WAGS

>> No.15555037

>>15555025
grimes used to regulate him if you can fucking believe that

>> No.15555038

>>15554947
IVO is testing a cubesat-scale thruster that gets 0.25mN from <1W of electricity on a Rogue Space host bus.

>> No.15555040

>>15555037
Musk needs a megadom mars queen gf (female) who is even more autistic than he is

>> No.15555042

>>15555040
Most real post in the whole thread

>> No.15555045

>>15554441
yup. Of course you're neglecting the real hurdle of many nations land being required. Governments will never allow it. Much smaller scale energy storage sounds good. Dunno why nobody's tried yet.

>> No.15555050

>>15555040
>megadom
he's not into that

>> No.15555060

>>15555050
I don't care about what he's into. He needs autism dommy mommy's to whip his ass into shape and kill the cringe birdapp arc.

>> No.15555064

>>15555060
Why is it cringe?

>> No.15555067

>>15555064
Low IQ post

>> No.15555071

>>15555067
me, him, or you?

>> No.15555073

>>15555071
ooo ménage à trois

>> No.15555078

>>15555064
>why is it cringe that he spends his time and energy on social media garbage instead of building the rockets

You have to go back

>> No.15555088
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https://spacenews.com/astra-to-raise-up-to-65-million-in-stock-sale/
>Faced with dwindling cash and a stock delisting, Astra Space announced plans July 10 to perform a reverse split of its stock and sell up to $65 million of it.

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Here is my daily quality post comparing two Apollo lunar lander concepts.

>> No.15555101

>/sci/ has a heliocentric general
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.15555103

>>15555088
cool, more for me

>> No.15555105
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>>15555038
What would be the ramifications if this is proven to actually work?

>> No.15555106

>>15555101
/sfg/ is an anthrocentric general

>> No.15555110

>>15555105
>What would be the ramifications if this is proven to actually work?
noble peace prize

>> No.15555123

>>15555105
Hard to say. If such horizon based physics can start being manipulated, who knows what you can do?

>> No.15555132

>>15555105
Astra will go bankrupt since their one functioning business unit is selling millinewton scale ion drives.

>> No.15555141

>>15555105
Even at current 0.00025N/W efficiency levels it makes manned nuclear-electric exploration of the outer solar system immediately possible. A 10x gain in efficiency would allow solar-electric manned exploration of the inner system or nuclear-electric non-generational interstellar missions. The ability to house the drives inside the spacecraft has obvious military advantages as well.

>> No.15555146

Why have politicians from this state been so detrimental to commercial spaceflight? That’s Shelby guy was an ass and now Tuberville is playing funny games

>> No.15555148

>>15555105
Total soience lover meltdown

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>>15555146

>> No.15555152

>>15555105
How is it supposed to actually work? I couldn’t find any documentation on its actual mechanism

>> No.15555156

>>15555152
When held in a vacuum and subject to an electric current, its conical shape causes more offgasing of the tape in one direction that the other. Thus a net thrust.

>> No.15555161

>>15555152
The tape used to hold the coils together outgasses differentially in a reactionless manner

>> No.15555166

>>15555156
Einstein (loser) seethes at this btw

>> No.15555167

>>15555156
>>15555161
kek

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>> No.15555186

>>15555185
Slampig

>> No.15555192

>>15555185
I swear to god her head is more spherical every time I see it

>> No.15555193

>>15555146
Their state has a bunch of NASA and ULA facilities so they have nowhere to go but down as commercial space clusters in more startup friendly locations.

>> No.15555199
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>>15555152
It's a capacitor based QI thruster so it uses rapid acceleration of electrons (during discharge) to create a horizon effect. This paper is the basis of all capacitor driven QI thrusters.

>> No.15555201

>>15555186
>Slam
no
>pig
yes

>> No.15555214

>>15555146
What's Potatotown doing?

>> No.15555229

>>15555199
I thought the Horizon drive uses Unruh radiation?

>> No.15555231

>>15555229
The horizon creates an asymmetry in ambient unruh radiation which is what causes thrust.

>> No.15555232

>>15555231
That sounds like some Bob Lazar Area 51 UFO DMT acid trip shit. Can it VTOL? Or would it be vacuum only?

>> No.15555236

>>15555185
She could beat me off any day i want her to squeeze my little baby dick,,,god crush my FFFUCKing balls mom, oh mommy ive been bad, fuck my asspussy

>> No.15555238

>>15555232
It's an electric thruster. You'd still need a nuclear reactor to SSTO with one and you'd get more thrust using NTP with ambient air as propellant.

>> No.15555239

>>15555192
that pic is out of date actually, she's hotter now

>> No.15555240

>>15555166
Newton's Laws weren't wrong, just missing in action.

>> No.15555245
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>>15555238
True, but you would also not have to rely on riding on a perpetual explosion rivaling that of low yield nuclear weapons over the course of your ascent, which would make surface to orbit not only drastically cheaper, but far safer as well.

>> No.15555268

why doesnt nsf hire any cute girls? literally zero cute girl presenters. then a couple of the guys left and they replaced them with more guys. so stupid, we want TITS, YOUNG TITS

>> No.15555284

>>15555146
Huntsville is a major aerospace hub, but other than the large defense firms, the businesses there primarily act as government services contractors rather than hardware manufacturers. Blue Origin's facility is a major exception, but most of the work being done in Alabama relies on US government agencies spending tons of money on studies and engineering services. NASA buying ready-made hardware from vertically-integrated startups circumvents this whole process.

There are some companies in the area slowly waking up to the new model, but most of them stand to lose from this shift. The decisions of their congressional representatives largely reflect this. Tuberville has pissed off a decent chunk of the people who would otherwise back him by fucking with space command, though.

>> No.15555289

>>15555105
The galactic council will break prime directive and send a delegation with the sorting hat. Spoiler: it's all hufflepuff

>> No.15555293

https://youtu.be/KXZWV6NOuF8
holy fuck

>> No.15555298

>>15555293
go back

>> No.15555301

>>15555293
ufockers rest in peace after this one

>> No.15555308

>>15555239
post them

>> No.15555310

>>15555268
they have that bitch with the huge honker

>> No.15555318

>>15555310
Stfu chris im not clicking another video and im not subscribing L2

>> No.15555319

>>15555310
Based clicks merchant

>> No.15555340

>>15555105
Golden age of mankind

>> No.15555345

>>15555152
If they knew how it worked it wouldnt be an experiment silly

>> No.15555359

>>15555094
thank you for your service

>> No.15555406

>>15554425
aren't they poor as hell? it wouldn't take many resources to conduct a coup there, right?

>> No.15555410

>>15555406
they had a civil war there not too long ago. the rebels lost.

>> No.15555414

>>15555410
then make more of them

>> No.15555487

>>15554878
Merely an issue of power

>> No.15555498

you now remember what happen to scott manley

>> No.15555501

>>15555094
my 50 shitposts from last thread equal my 1 good post this thread

>> No.15555612

>>15555166
>man literally named "Does a stone jest?"
>never answered the question
What a failure.

>> No.15555623

>>15554425
Just launch from french guyana?

>> No.15555670
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Russia's Luna 25 launch window: Aug 10!

https://twitter.com/nicolas_pillet/status/1678657240704733184

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The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>> No.15555689

>>15555670
i dont believe the timeline. it was supposed to launch last year.

>> No.15555705

I hope any euro understands that Ariane 6 will have a few failures early on, right, same thing happened with Ariane 1, Ariane 4 and Ariane 5 and Ariane 5 ECA. It's inevitable, PARTICULARLY with the skills departure and gutting of Arianespace.

>> No.15555715

>>15555156
>>15555161
how does the tape offgass if it's in a sealed vacuum chamber with the chamber itself being weighed to measure thrust?

>> No.15555723

>>15555705
It can't have early failures if it indefinitely delayed and then transitioned to a new flavor of the month China style to keep the grift going.

On the other hand, I think they are going to be super conservative with the early launches because they need the PR spin in a post starship world. I think all the big old players are desperate to be able to claim that their approach (spend all of someone else's money) makes rockets that just work and early starship failed in its early (please forget they are tests) flights.

Ariane 6 will likely "succeed" just because European institutional launcher, but infinite government money making vehicles that "just work" is the only other leg their funding stands on, and early failures would severely damage them there.

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>>15555166
>>15555612

>> No.15555730
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>>15555238
>You'd still need a nuclear reactor to SSTO with one
Nah, use Greasons beamed power
https://thedebrief.org/darpa-funded-electric-sky-on-threshold-of-aviation-revolution-with-whisper-beam/

>> No.15555737

>>15555723
Ariane 6 is 100% guaranteed to actually fly missions, if only for the "muh European capability". Vulcan too because NSSL dictates that there must be at least two separate launchers for national security. Basically proving that in this stage of spaceflight, it has looped back to being only an endeavor for government agencies (of course, barring SpaceX's mogging).

>> No.15555743

>>15555723
Even if they succeed they're going to fail. They set up their production lines to be only capable of producing 11 cores and 35 P120C boosters per year. They're not even going to be able to manage to lift 200 tons to orbit per year which is going to look absurd even when you compare it to something like Vulcan.

>> No.15555745

curious how much an ariane 6 launch is gonna cost by the time they're ready

>> No.15555749

>>15555745
It's still probably going to be less than SLS.
Not that that's hard.

>> No.15555778

>>15555745
Wikipedia has the listed price at 75-115M euros, which isn't really that bad if you can pretend that SpaceX doesn't exist.

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>>15555301
cope and sneed

>> No.15555793

>>15555782
Science man: the easiest person to fool is you
UFO enthusiast: these are expert pilots dude. they are trained to observe the sky.

>> No.15555794
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15555794

Boing!

>> No.15555803

>>15554974
very unlikely, but maybe some private company from there accomplishes something
having national space programs developing rockets is a bit outdated
do countries develop their own cars? no

>> No.15555807

>>15555794
Damn even the pajeets are out diversifed

>> No.15555820

>>15555064
its not, its necessary
SpaceX is going as fast as they can

>>15555067
>>15555078
midwit posts

>> No.15555822

>>15555807
that's been happening for a while now

asian americans are actually worse off than whiteys in some areas like school admissions

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>>15555794

>> No.15555833

>>15555745
Ariane 5 cost 160 m€ after subsidies (~30 m€ per launch)
Ariane 6 at the same production rate will likely cost the same, but without subsidies.
Mainly thanks to simplified ("industrialised") S1 and halved cost of main engine, and *hopefully* standardised booster but we've yet to see if they can increase production.

>> No.15555841

>>15555833
oh right sorry 160m€ including subsidies is more at the launch rate of the past years, peak launch rate (6-7 ariane 5 a year) was a bit cheaper, 130-150 million euro per launches after subsidies.
Arianespace still operated at a slight loss even under peak launch rate and subsidies.

>> No.15555846

Is there anything I can do to speed up the Artemis program, besides writing a very heavy-worded letter to NASA saying we must pour more money into our space program? I want to see big megastructures in space in my lifetime.

>> No.15555850

>>15555846
Write a strongly worded letter to cancel it.

>> No.15555853
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>>15555841
They already basically shave $15 million on the cheaper Vulcain 2.1, if they can (big if) reach 9-10 launches a year like they claim they could maybe reach 130 million (2020 usd) for an A64. I'm not sure A62 will ever go much lower however, they're probably going to milk the institutional contracts that will launch on it.

At least CNES believes that A6 even at full production rate will never go below 130 million usd (cost is to GTO), note that 2020-2021 includes A5 ESA EGAS subsidies, which won't be applied for A6, since the whole point of A6 is to replace A5 and Soyuz while stopping needing EGAS subsidies.

>> No.15555885

>>15555794
holy shit lmaooo

>> No.15555889

>>15555820
to add to this, its necessary so something like this >>15555794 doesnt become actual law (now its just strongly encouraged or forced by actors like blackrock doing ESG stuff)
but in some countries quotas are a thing in the law, like quotas for percentage of females on company boards for example
I'm sure a portion of people in the USA would want similar stuff and to extend this to race and whatever as well

>> No.15555904
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>>15554522
cool graphic from the article

> The distance of the Oort Cloud to the interior of the Solar System. The scale bar is in astronomical units, with each set distance beyond 1 AU representing 10 times the previous distance.

>> No.15555905

>>15555889
California already has a female board member quota law.

>> No.15555918
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15555918

is there hope for me of getting an aerospace/general engineering job in Japan as a westerner?

>> No.15555926

>>15555612
>man literally named "Does a stone jest?"
are you retarded?

>> No.15555927

>>15555904
orders of magnitude too far from us

>> No.15555928
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15555928

hop wen

>> No.15555930

>>15555918
why?

>> No.15555933

>>15555918
You need to ask some weeb forum. That is not an usual career path. I would only consider companies that have overseas operations too.

>> No.15555934

>>15555918
>he posted it again
kill yourself. there is no hope if all you do is talk about it

>> No.15555936

>The only interesting things in this industry right now are heavy/superheavy lift and VTVL development because those things are required for more ambitious projects

I don't even care about muh startups, satellite launches, commercial space stations, mars, jupiter etc.

>> No.15555937

>>15555936
What do you care about then Mr. Bezos?

>> No.15555943

>>15555937
One or several launches per week of a Saturn V class reusable rocket.

>> No.15555946

what rail gauge will we use on mars

>> No.15555948

>>15555930
I can get gunpla for way cheaper than in the US or Europe

>> No.15555959

>>15555946
It will be all SCMaglev guideways

>> No.15555963

>>15554536
They're so cute!

>> No.15555965

>>15555946
Standard American gauge.

>>15555959
freight maglev is retarded

>> No.15555966

>>15554680
>>15554714

>Falcon 9 v1.1 Block 5 Fullerest thrustiest

>> No.15555978

>>15555965
>freight maglev is retarded
not if its hypersonic maglev in vacuum with regenerative braking.

>> No.15555984

>>15555978
Hypersonic maglev requires incredibly straight tracks to not yeet itself off a corner. Traditional rail will be built for mining.

>> No.15555986

>>15555984
so constrain it with a tube.
the regenerative braking part of it is super important.
what other mode of transport could recover even 50% of the propulsion energy used?

>> No.15555987

>>15555978
Y’all got any more of them buzzwords?

>> No.15555990

>>15555987
>>15555067

>> No.15555993

>>15555050
Grimes pegged him regularly.

>> No.15556003

>>15555904
there's no way the orc cloud extends 10% of the way to alpha centauri

>> No.15556015

>>15556003
WAAAAAGH!

It's more like 50% actually. The Oort Cloud stretches a stupidly long way.

>> No.15556017

>>15556003
it extends up to the hill sphere of the sun
its a massive area up to like 2.3 light years, billions of small icey comets but that means there is basically nothing at all there
occasionally some icey piece gets disturbed by another passing star or whatever and flung into the inner solar system (vast majority coming from the inner disc shaped oort cloud 20-30k AUs from the sun
but at this point I think it is mostly theoretical, just based on statistics and so on
the comets have to come from somewhere as they are slowly eaten up each time they pass close to the sun
actually observing these small icey balls and rocks is probably actually impossible

>> No.15556019

>>15555993
Why do faggots always project their fantasies on to others?

>> No.15556020

>>15556017
so what you're saying is there could be planets half way between here and alpha centauri

>> No.15556026

>>15556020
There could even be brown dwarves yes

>> No.15556028

>>15556020
Probably not in that exact direction or we'd have seen it partially occlude Alpha Centauri by now. Orbits that far out are less than 1km/s.

>> No.15556029

>>15556026
ok now thats bullshit

>> No.15556031 [DELETED] 
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The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>> No.15556048

>>15556029
?

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>>15556017
Stars have approached and will approach the sun even closer than the inner Oort cloud
>Gliese 710, or HIP 89825, is an orange 0.6 M star in the constellation Serpens Cauda. It is projected to pass near the Sun in about 1.29 million years at a predicted minimum distance of 0.051 parsecs—0.1663 light-years (10,520 astronomical units) (about 1.60 trillion km) – about 1/25th of the current distance to Proxima Centauri. Such a distance would make for a similar brightness to the brightest planets, optimally reaching an apparent visual magnitude of about −2.7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_710

>> No.15556072

>>15556029
There's literally a binary system of two brown dwarves that are only 50% further out than Alpha centauri, and we only discovered them 10 years ago.

They're also middle-size brown dwarves, a single small brown dwarf could still be out there and relatively close to us.

>> No.15556086

there will be a large moon rock market when starship is bringing back tons from the surface. will you buy one?

>> No.15556092

>>15556086
Yes.

>> No.15556105

Oort cloud isn't real

>> No.15556125
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Well it's good to know the next generation of rockets are in good hands

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>> No.15556133

>>15556125
Would

>> No.15556195

Starlink is apparently destroying radio astronomy, when is the government going to shutdown his "companies"?

https://www.space.com/starlink-electronics-hum-disturbs-radio-astronomy

>> No.15556200

>>15556125
Based on New Tron’s shitty design I wouldn’t exactly state it’s in ‘good hands,’ it’s already fucked and it hasn’t even flown yet

>> No.15556201

>>15556195
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/china-develops-new-starlink-killer-anti-satellite-microwave-weapon/

shoot it down and blame it on space debris

>> No.15556202

>>15556195
move radio astronomy to the far side of the moon

>> No.15556208
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>>15556202
That isn't possible apparently.

>> No.15556214

>>15556208
but it is possible for you to go back

>> No.15556217

>>15556214
No, because you can't build in space. Sorry.

>> No.15556219

>>15556208
I fucking hate astronomers so much it’s unreal

>> No.15556224

>>15556208
Meanwhile geologychads will board any rocket and fly to any location without a single complaint, as long as there’s heineken on board

>> No.15556229

>>15556208
>"but it's not feasible"
If $10/kg launch costs don't make your design feasible you should probably resign.

>> No.15556237

>>15556208
why not you stupid bastard

>> No.15556244
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>>15556224
HEINEKEN?? FUCK THAT SHIT!
PABST BLUE RIBBON

>> No.15556248

>>15556208
Killing starlink is a 2 for 1 deal. It makes the night sky prettier and keeps thirdies off the internet.

>> No.15556251

>>15556208
>it's not feasible
So it's just hobbyists seething?

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>>15556224
>>15556244
How do carbonated beverages behave in microgravity? Perhaps we should just bring the liquor

>> No.15556259

>>15556253
>Deke Slayton’s ONLY flight was Apollo-Soyuz
Huh…

>> No.15556266

>>15556248
it also dooms humanity to be stuck on this dirt ball forever
it's a money printer; no starlink, not enough elonbux to start a mars colony and maybe not even enough to get starship flying daily - 2/3rds of the CURRENT profit model for starship is literally just full size starlink V2

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15556279

The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>> No.15556286

>>15555105
The biggest salt mine you have ever seen that makes Galileo look like a joke

Expect dubious / failed results over and over and the grift to never end though. If it doesn't work the first time stop paying attention to it

>> No.15556291

>>15556286
If QI thrust is definitively proven I think the Atomic Rockets website will be the first casualty since the whole basis of the website is "reactionless drives are bad".

>> No.15556296

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/11/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-be-4-rocket-engine-explodes-during-testing.html

>Blue Origin suffered a rocket engine explosion while testing its BE-4 rocket engine last month, CNBC has learned, a destructive setback with potential ramifications for the company’s customers as well as its own rocket.

>During a firing on June 30 at Blue Origin’s facility in West Texas, a BE-4 engine detonated about 10 seconds into the test, according to several people familiar with the matter. Those people described having seen video of a dramatic explosion that destroyed the engine and heavily damaged the test stand infrastructure.

>> No.15556299

>>15556296
OH NOOOOOOOOO
THE ENGINES JEFF

>> No.15556307
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>>15556296
Jeff, you've lost another engine?

>> No.15556308

>>15556296
Isn't Raptors exploding a normal occurrence, I guess the difference is that they are selling that shit to ULA.

>> No.15556312

>>15556296
spacex blows up engines all the time lol. i assume this is news bevause BO builds 1/2 a BE4 per year? so an explosion sets them back two years...
>a destructive setback with potential ramifications for the company’s customers as well as its own rocket
>Sheetz
this still seems overdramatic lol

>> No.15556315

>>15556308
RIP Vulcan

>> No.15556319

>>15556312
Depends on what they were testing, if it's just pushing it to the limit then I doubt it matters much, but if it's a faulty design then RIP

>> No.15556320

>>15556308
>>15556312
The differences are that SpaceX tests their engines to failure all the time with different modifications made to them. Meanwhile, Jeff is just trying to make rockets that have been in a frozen configuration for probably three years now, while simultaneously they are monstrously more expensive and take far longer to manufacture. We know that two years ago SpaceX was at 1 Raptor every few days, but they literally were making so many that Elon had them stop since it didn't make sense to keep pushing in that area with the lack of launch opportunity. If Bezos could push out a slew of new rockets each week, and was consistently upgrading the rocket, no one would care. We're on Raptor 3 now, for Chrissake.

>> No.15556332

>>15556308
>>15556312
SpaceX tests Raptors to destruction to see its limits, not Raptors it is selling to another company.

>> No.15556336

could spacex sell raptors to ULA?

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>>15556320
>>15556312
Oh wow yet another fake blunder. Cue in the science golems and their mental gymnastics.

>> No.15556340

Poo Origin bros it's over...

>> No.15556341

>>15556312
>this still seems overdramatic lol

Depending on the cause it could force another delay on the first Vulcan launch.

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33 raptors Elon? 33? That's insane

>> No.15556352

>>15556346
39 engines is too many. 28 is a good number of engines.

>> No.15556365

>>15555833
>160 m€
Bro, just say 16 cents instead of speaking about millieuros.

>> No.15556367

reminder that /sfg/ is a no-ton zone
we use megagrams

>> No.15556370

>>15556312
Anon I'm pretty sure they didn't indent to blow up a quarter of the engines during the test flight !!

>> No.15556372

>>15556296
Holy shit this is not good

>> No.15556373

>>15556296
Why are 21st century rocket companies utterly unable to design a rs-25 tier engine lol????

>> No.15556374

>>15556352
30 is better, 3 center, 9 inner ring, then 18 outer
I hate that the 20 and 10 engines don't line up symmetrically with the center 3 it triggers my autism so bad
the ideal symmetry layout would be 1-6-12-24 but circular, not actually hexagonal. Maybe if Raptor 4 or 5 or whatever gets a size increase then something like an 18 or 20 meter susperstarship+supersuperheavy could use that layout

>> No.15556376

>>15556367
Based contrarian. I love it when wikipedia says something is “also referred to as X” lol. I usually start using the less common name because it sounds cooler

>> No.15556377

>>15556373
raptor 3 is in that same area, the lower ISP is a fundamental aspect of methalox (but the no deep cryogenic insulation boiloff leaky bullshit and higher thrust makes it better than hydroloss)

>> No.15556378
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JAXA's Martian Moon Exploration Mission official mascot

>> No.15556382

>>15555846
Kill your Senators

>> No.15556383

>>15556296
The best part is all the Starship bad lol crews won't say a peep about this. RUD during acceptance testing.

>> No.15556388

>>15555846
Vote Republican. Democrats aren't taking the House back next year so a unified government won't play fuck-fuck games with the budget.

>> No.15556390

>>15556367
kilokilograms*

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>>15556219
welcome to the resistance

>> No.15556398

>>15556390
Woah a cubic megagram

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>>15556390
you mean milligigagrams

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>>15556373

I think human intelligence applied to rocketry peaked during the Operation Paperclip days (keep in mind the Soviets had their own version of this operation, and they got their space program from that too).
Maybe this generation is just too dumb? Raw intelligence wise?

>> No.15556405

>>15556336
Yeah. But they wouldn't. And even if they did ULA wouldn't buy them. But sure, there's nothing stopping them.

>> No.15556407

>>15556378
I love JAXA so much
>>15556388
NTA but this is interesting

>> No.15556409

>>15556352
42 is just a ridiculous number of engines
I can't believe he's trying to put 50 engines on that thing

>> No.15556411

>>15556403
just behind the first two guys at far left on front row: hitler

>> No.15556413

>>15556411
The boy

>> No.15556415

>>15556403
>(keep in mind the Soviets had their own version of this operation, and they got their space program from that too).
The difference is that a significant portion of the Paperclip guys, many of the most significant ones including von Braun himself, chose to go to the US of their own volition before Germany had even surrendered whereas the Osoaviakhim guys were basically told "work for us or die" by the Soviets.

>> No.15556418

>>15555946
Brunel gauge
Standard gauge is too narrow

>> No.15556420

>>15556373
Even with all the computers they can't rival German rocket scientists

>> No.15556427

>>15556415
Russia/Soviet Union sucks on so many levels

>> No.15556428

>>15556415
Sorry to change subjects but I’ve always heard WvB a) purposefully went towards USA held territory on purpose and b) showed up with a broken arm suffered during a V2 test.
I’m mostly interested in the broken arm. What’s the true story behind that? My grandpa once told me he was shot by an American and that this part was covered up by Army censors when developing the story for the press

>> No.15556429

>>15556308
Raptor/SpaceX is hardware rich testing scheme. They're testing hundreds and hundreds.

ULA/Blue has handful of engines at best. Its supposed to be "waterfall" where slow development was supposed to be "all theoretically safe"

>> No.15556431

>>15556418
Think of the possibilities with standard gauge though. You could make railcars and electric engines anywhere in the US, roll them right up to the VAB, clean them off, load them on to the rocket, and then unload them on Mars to be put to work. Add some rail-extruding robots that can be fed with Martian feedstock and you can bootstrap a rail network in a hurry without the slave labor.

>> No.15556433

>>15556420
Every story I hear about the Cold War scientists just further convinces me its an IQ problem. We are less capable than them. That's it.

>> No.15556435

>>15556428
wake up babe, new spaceflight lore just dropped

>> No.15556439

>>15556428
>>15556435
Where does this go on the iceberg?

>> No.15556441

>>15556251
and dumbass eggheads that think they can stop the industrialization of space. They've had half a decade to get with the program and now they're panicking now that it's obvious that their niche stands no chance.

>> No.15556442

>>15556433
It's vibrant diversities all the way down. The baseline genetic component is the same in the majority population but our education system and hiring practices can't adhere to those standards without violating federal law about "disparate impacts".

>> No.15556443

>>15556428
arm broke in a car accident

>> No.15556444

>>15556428
It’s true. A british soldier stationed at the front had 14 members of his family killed by V2s and needed revenge

>> No.15556448

>>15556415
Trying to surrender to the Western Allies was very common. The Germans for sure knew what kind of fuckery they had been up to in German occupied USSR.

>> No.15556449

>>15555946
Three meter.

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15556450

board is full science golems who run to the jannie at the slightest sight of truth (flat earth)

these retarded golems are seething so hard whenever their globohomo indoctrination gets challenged

try it out for yourself.

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>>15556442
>>15556403

But yeah let me expand on that. You'd be surprised by how rare this type of expertise and knowledge really is. "Why can't we build the Saturn V (or an even more powerful vehicle) again?"
Saturn V was built by dozens of different companies operating under three general contractors. NASA has the "plans", but not the details. Just one example: late in development, Rocketdyne was struggling to address a combustion instability caused its F1 rocket engines to explode. The sort of computer modeling we have now didn’t exist, so the engineers guessed that something about the uniform pattern of holes inside the injector cone must be allowing for harmonic action inside the engine. Their solution was intuitive and simple: have a human being DRILL A BUNCH OF HOLES in odd places. So that’s what they did. By hand. And it worked, but we don’t know why or whether they were solving the right problem or just got lucky. In a machine of this complexity and at those times, a lot of things were just like that - decisions made on the spur of the moment by instinct, often with no formal analysis of the plan.
TLDR: we didn’t lose the plans for the Saturn V; they never existed outside of the minds of those who build her.
Take it a step further - those who built her literally just INTUITED the damn thing. IQ.

>> No.15556456

>>15556429
There were more Raptor 2's in that tent at Boca alone than BE-4's in their various stages of construction have ever been built. That cannot be set aside by anyone who wants to criticize this method.

>> No.15556458

the people that drove the moon program weren't smarter or cleverer than us. they were just determined. People tend to adhere to the maser race 60s white man engineer meme. They were just normal engineers, but very determined.

>> No.15556463

>>15556453
F1-b design is a thing, bro.

>> No.15556468

>>15556453
>TLDR: we didn’t lose the plans for the Saturn V; they never existed outside of the minds of those who build her.
Just a bunch of faggots taking their job security too seriously.

>> No.15556469

>>15556433
Part of it is that theyre putting chemicals in the water that make the frogs gay - unironically.

>> No.15556471

"Sunquakes are seismic-like activity on the Sun that ripple across the visible surface, not unlike earthquakes. They are known to accompany some solar flares, but scientists are uncertain how exactly they are triggered.
Caption: Movie of a sunquake – the earthquake-like waves that ripple through our star. Left frame shows the active region in visible light (amber) and extreme ultraviolet (red) on July 30, 2011. Right frame shows the ripples on Sun’s outlying surface up to 42 minutes after the onset of the flare, which is marked by the label “IP” for impulsive flare. Credit: NASA/SDO"
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/ripplemovie3.gif

>> No.15556473

>>15556458
They were less encumbered by lawyers and paperwork. If one of them insisted he was actually a woman or screamed that it was racist to listen to the Paperclippers they would have been quietly fired.

>> No.15556474

>>15556458
(which, in a sense is more impressive)

>> No.15556490
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15556490

Today, the ULA Rocket Factory welcomed the Nerdettes, the all-girl (and all-pink!) robotics team breaking barriers from Huntsville, AL! Thank you for sharing your passion for #STEM with us

https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1678832320269152274

>> No.15556493

>>15556448
>The Germans for sure knew what kind of fuckery they had been up to in German occupied USSR.
what kind of fuckery?

>> No.15556496

>>15556490
these are high schoolers fyi
just thought I should mention that

>> No.15556498

>>15556469
microplastics?

>> No.15556499

>>15556493
16 million civilian deaths for one

>> No.15556500

>>15556493
Everything bad you've ever been told about the Holocaust is a lie to deflect from actual Soviet crimes. Prisoners in German camps died of Typhus, not delousing gas chambers with leaky wooden doors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

>> No.15556502

I wonder what will SpaceX will do with its tens (hundreds?) of Raptor 2

>> No.15556503
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15556503

>>15556458
they were white Germans.

>> No.15556506

>>15556496
old hags

>> No.15556508

>>15556502
Sell them for their raw material worth since they don't work

>> No.15556509

>>15556496
No they aren't.

>> No.15556511

>>15556490
>breaking barriers
I can guarantee that this ladies haven't shattered a single barrier in their entire lives. There is no thirsty school robotics club that would have ever considered turning away anyone even remotely female, and no school that actually has a robotics club is going to be attended by students who have ever suffered any kind of economic hardship. These are upper middle class hobby colonizers looking to gather simps.

>> No.15556512
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>> No.15556515
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>>15556490
>be dumb golem
>send your whorish daughters to the science jews for some 1one1 time

>> No.15556516
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15556516

>>15556515
>>15556511
cope, can you design a mars rover better than our fine ladies from alabama?

>> No.15556517

>>15556463
On paper.

>> No.15556519

>>15556516
Their robot is cute, I'd walk up to these aspiring young engineers and ask them questions about their robot.

>> No.15556520

>>15556516
i would absolutely destroy ther pussys

>> No.15556521

>>15556346
33 is a good number of engines, it's not exactly rocket science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

>> No.15556525

>>15556490
Atlas and Delta have soul. Vulcan is a shell of a personality. It’s just an amalgamation of both rockets, but shitty and uncompetitive with its contemporaries

>> No.15556528

>>15556512
LE PETIT CAPORAL, THOMAS

>> No.15556533

>>15556525
you dont know shit

>> No.15556538

>>15556516
The chin on the one on the right could be used as a hammer or something holy cow

>> No.15556539 [DELETED] 
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>>15556516
The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>> No.15556540

>15556291
If monkeys are definitively proven to fly out of my butt I think we'll have all the monkeys we could ever need.

>> No.15556546
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>>15556296
No problem, you have dozens of them already, you can just get another one, right Jeff?
Right?

>> No.15556549

>>15556296
>Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin
Why journos always do that, the same with spacex

>> No.15556551

>>15556367
cubic kilometers*

>> No.15556553

>>15556549
Clicks

>> No.15556554

>>15556296
I think the story developing is that this engine had already failed some quality control tests and they knew it would blow

>> No.15556557

>>15556549
For Musk it's because he's an egomaniac who asks his name to be plastered everywhere.
Dunno if it's the same case with Bezos or if media NPCs have started following Musk's faggotry as a pattern. Maybe it gets more clicks.

>> No.15556559
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15556559

>>15556020
Yeah.

>> No.15556560
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>>15556296
We're so back.

>> No.15556564

>>15556554
>>15556560
So either it’s a good cover story or they were really just testing an engine to failure on purpose and this is a huge nothingburger

>> No.15556565

>>15556003
That's nothing. Milky Way's and Andromeda's halo structures are basically already touching, as they extend for millions of light-years.

>> No.15556570

>>15556560
>throwing some random bureaucratic acronyms out to explain an engine literally fucking exploding itself

>> No.15556571
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15556571

>>15556431
it could even look something like this...

>> No.15556573

>>15556565
It's not gay until the arms touch.

>> No.15556577

>>15556564
>A Blue Origin spokesperson, in a statement to CNBC on Tuesday, confirmed the company “ran into an issue while testing Vulcan’s Flight Engine 3.”
It was an engine they were supposed to ship to ULA. No way they were testing to failure.

>> No.15556579

>>15556431
I’m sorry but no one in their right mind is going to want to do this

>> No.15556583

>>15556564
>testing a flight engine to failure

>> No.15556585

>>15556577
Well, Bruno is making it sound like that engine was already a POS. Maybe he thinks that about all the engines though lol

>> No.15556587
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15556587

>>15556498
Yes. Endocrine-disruptors in general.

>> No.15556588

>>15556296
Doesn't this mean that even if ULA fixes the upper stage issues, they now can't launch the rocket until BO completes its analysis to determine if the engines it shipped to ULA are also impacted? Which in turn means that the ULA VC launch contract would slip over into Falcon Heavy/Starship?

>> No.15556589

BO has a lot of time to make another engine considering god knows when 2nd Vulcan flight will happen.

>> No.15556591

>>15555025
>>15555031
>>15555033
>dude elon LITERALLY builds the rockets
>if he's coding and operating the entire twitter website then how is he supposed to weld rocket engines together and pour concrete and build the water deluge plate thingy?

>> No.15556604

we're going to build a sunshield to cool the earth

>> No.15556606

>>15556591
Wrong, he's currently aligning panels on tesla

>> No.15556608

>>15556588
If that was an acceptance test, then the engines that ULA has now have already passed the test.
The real problem is that BO is now short one autisimally handcrafted engine, and now they have to check the few other engines that they finished but haven't tested yet.

>> No.15556610

>>15556512
Still smug

>> No.15556612

>>15556604
*Venus

>> No.15556619
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15556619

>>15556512
king of /sfg/

>> No.15556627
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>>15556591
No man can reasonably take two wives and fulfill his duties to each. The same is true with his work.

>> No.15556630
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>>15556619
disagree

>> No.15556632

>>15556630
>judge dredd
Is that real shirt or photoshop?

>> No.15556636
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>>15556516
there's not a trace of autism in those ho's
picrel are space nerds

>> No.15556646
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>>15556630
Dredd betrayed him :(

>> No.15556653

>>15556627
what duties though?
aside from being able to eject leftoids and steer the ship, he's not got much else to do at twitter.
As head engineer i think he does more at spaceX, but they're still stuck in waiting aren't they? they've got like 5 or 10 starship-booster combos begging to be launched but they fucked the launch pad so they're having to rebuild it. Until literal manual labour is over and done with Elon is useless to SpaceX
there's also the fact he has the boring company, neuralink bullshit and Tesla
so one extra wife isn't as much of an intense time sink if you already have 3 or 4

>> No.15556656

>>15556646
>seething trannies make a crude caricature of a comic

>> No.15556659
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>> No.15556660
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>> No.15556661

>>15556296
its over

>> No.15556662

>>15556653
>aside from being able to eject leftoids and steer the ship, he's not got much else to do at twitter.
"Aside from shoveling shit, Hercules didn't have much to do in the Augean Stables."

>> No.15556668
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>> No.15556669
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>>15556516
Does the rover have a pink bow on?

>> No.15556683

>>15556669
Because it's cute

>> No.15556684
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15556684

>>15556286
>>15556291
Wouldn't it be an open cycle field drive and not a reactionless drive? Since it is essentially harnessing energy that is already existing throughout the universe.

>> No.15556716

Reminder that pulsed solid core NTR BTFOs every other solid or gas core concept out there.

>> No.15556768
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>>15556683

>> No.15556775
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15556775

NASA had their Canoos delivered

>> No.15556779

>>15556775
canoo will not be long for this world

>> No.15556780
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15556780

>>15556775
looks like the tesla buses that boring co. is putting into the vegas tunnel
https://twitter.com/jacobsvegaslife/status/1678509827981451265

>> No.15556788

>>15556579
What's easier, teaching railroad companies how to turn engines and passenger cars into pressure vessels, or building railcars on Mars?

>> No.15556789

>>15556684
Yes, but then you have to accept that "unruh radiation" is a frame-local inertial aether made of EM waves, which is going to make entire physics departments sudoku.

>> No.15556791

>>15556789
Honestly based though if it actually succeeds

>> No.15556796
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>>15556791
Yup, and an open cycle lift effect engine that relies on pushing the vessel along external pressure gradients without propeller or jet effects is called a sail. So technically a QI drive is an aether sail.

>> No.15556803

>>15556646
thats gay

>> No.15556804

>>15556789
Stop I can only get so erect

>> No.15556809
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15556809

How can QI be weaponized?

>> No.15556812

>>15556809
Solar powered satellites moving however they want without a propellant budget would give the Chinese ulcers. That's why DARPA funded QI research for years.

>> No.15556818

>>15556373 >>15556403 >>15556433 >>15556442 >>15556453 >>15556458 >>15556473 >>15556469
It's a budget issue; that's literally it. 1960s rocket programs had fuck-you government money to burn, so the impressive part of the Apollo Program is the timescale it was completed in (rather than that it was successful at all). During the peak years of the Apollo budget, NASA was getting five percent of the ENTIRE UNITED STATES GDP. Not 5% of the Federal Budget, not 5% of all taxes, five-fucking-percent of the entire American Economy was being consumed to get us to the moon. Even over the 10 year period Apollo ran it averages out to 2.5% of the US GDP. The Soviets' N1 largely failed because of budget restrictions, if they had even 10% more budget for ground testing more engines then a Soviet moon landing would have probably happened before Apollo 17. The 60s especially gave birth to a huge amount of almost impossible seeming tech advancements, but behind every cold war secret project is a truly incomprehensible amount of money, usually given as a blank check.

To put it in perspective:
In 2022 the US Gross Domestic Product was approximately 25.5 trillion dollars. Peak Apollo-tier money would mean cutting NASA a check for ONE POINT THREE TRILLION DOLLARS, PER YEAR. Even if you include the total program cost of Constellation as part of the budget for Artemis, NASA hasn't spent that much over 2 decades and they'd be getting more next year. They could launch 10 SLS+Orions a month and have cash left over.

>> No.15556819

>>15556809
Don't you mean IQ?

>> No.15556823

>>15556453
wrong
>>15556818
wrong

>> No.15556825

https://blogs.nasa.gov/janus/2023/07/11/nasa-to-store-janus-spacecraft-mission-to-study-asteroid-systems/
>After a launch postponement made its primary science targets inaccessible to the spacecraft, NASA has concluded the Janus mission and directed the project to prepare the spacecraft for long-term storage.
>Designed to send twin small satellite spacecraft to study two separate binary asteroid systems, Janus was originally a ride-along on the Psyche mission’s scheduled 2022 launch. Psyche’s new October 2023 launch period, however, cannot deliver the two spacecraft to the mission’s original targets, and Janus was subsequently removed from the manifest.
>After considering the opportunities and requirements for alternative missions using the twin spacecraft, and the expected resources available to planetary science in the next few years, NASA has decided to stand down further work on the Janus mission. The project will complete the contracted work remaining on the two spacecraft and then prepare them for storage in the event that future funding may enable an opportunity to utilize the spacecraft.
F

>> No.15556826

>>15554933
Of course not, anon, we're made of meat.

>> No.15556827

>>15556577
>ran into an issue
merely an observation noted

>> No.15556829

>>15556825
>small satellite
stopped reading right there

>> No.15556832
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15556832

>>15556796
That's cool, but can we make Arwings with it?

>> No.15556833

>>15556788
We'll need them for the gainz trainz anyhow.

>> No.15556836

>>15556832
Those Arwings have reaction drive plumes so clearly not.

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15556842

Bullish on Vast

>> No.15556852

>>15556296
holy SHIT this was a FLIGHT ENGINE FOR VULCAN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>> No.15556853

Any link where to watch the launch of the Zhuque-2?

>> No.15556854

>>15556560
Yeah, it failed ATP because it fucking exploded Tory lmfao

>> No.15556856

>>15556853
nope

it won't work though
Elon will win the methane race

>> No.15556857

>>15556429
BE4 will never fail in flight because they are handcrafted to prefection

>> No.15556858

>>15556842
Reisman? The astronaut who signed off on for all mankind's shitty shitty shitty writing? that reisman? who compared elon to howard hughes? (an analogy that doesnt work on any level) and was fired from spacex?

>> No.15556875

>>15556852
They really should have just paid for the AR-1.

>> No.15556886

>>15556856
it made it like 90% there last time
it'll make it this time

>> No.15556887

>>15556490
Far left is Max-Qute

>> No.15556890

>>15556857
Too big to fail

>> No.15556892

>>15556857
yeah that shit'll blow up on the first flight i'm afraid.

>> No.15556900

>>15556886
The odds are pretty good, but swapping out the vernier-equipped engine for a gimbling one still leaves them with some pretty significant pieces of unproven hardware. The second stage curse could still find something to sink its teeth into.

>> No.15556907

>>15556900
The second stage engine switch isn't happening this flight

>> No.15556925
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15556925

It launched

>> No.15556933

>>15556925
Made it to orbit, apparently. gg LandSpace, first to orbit a methalox rocket.

>> No.15556936

GG landspace
First methalox rocket to reach space, first methalox rocket to reach orbit, they deserve it.

>> No.15556937

>>15556925
china utterly btfo the entire world

>> No.15556945

Amazing day for private spaceflight all over the world

>> No.15556955
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There was some... interesting tumbling on the upper stage after payload separation. Nothing that should be a problem tho.

>> No.15556957

>>15556955
LV0008 flashbacks

>> No.15556965

>>15556955
Shouldnt that be a problem from the separation device rather than the upper stage?

>> No.15556966

>>15556955
are we using the starship oft definition of orbital?

>> No.15556968

>>15556966
Nah, 453 x 454 km, 7638 m/s, it's as orbital as the ISS

>> No.15556970
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15556970

Has there been any progress in the field of energy generation my dudes?

>> No.15556971

no starship spaces
no flickr
no nothing

>> No.15556973

>>15556970
Theres a shitton of compact fusion startups supossed to enter the energy market in the next half decade which could easily be converted into space use.
I havent seen any progress in the field of heat dissipation, which is the immediate problem coming after any new space energy sources. Last interesting thing I saw was a liquid droplet radiator russian experiment in the ISS for TEM

>> No.15556978

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

This is missing a few SpaceX launches, pls fix there is only one Indian guy editing it but he’s been leaving off updating SpaceX for a bit

>> No.15557018

>>15556978
you do it

>> No.15557019

>>15557018
Why cant you?

>> No.15557025

>>15556858
>an analogy that doesnt work on any level
it doesn’t? It looks pretty good on a surface level.

>> No.15557026

>>15557019
Youre that stinky smellt lazy third worlder curry muching pot stirring street shitting jeet arent you. Go push your tech support work off to some other gullible third world retards.

>> No.15557029

>>15557025
nothing howard hughes did mattered

>> No.15557038

>>15556973
>Theres a shitton of compact fusion startups supossed to enter the energy market in the next half decade which could easily be converted into space use.
And not a single one of the will fly except perhaps Zap's SFS Z-pinch. But knowing the kind of person Uri Shumlak is (personally), he wouldn't want to make a starship engine until a power plant is successfully running on earth

>>15556970
Lots of interesting fission experiments and new RTG tech coming out of places like USNC

>> No.15557042

>>15556858
I thought he was working at sx currently. What happened?

>> No.15557044

>>15557026
fuck you fucking fucker

>> No.15557048

>>15557044
poo in loo

>> No.15557049

>>15556411
>>15556413
o7

>> No.15557052

It's over
China (numba) won
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3227378/china-beats-spacex-worlds-first-methane-powered-rocket-launch

>> No.15557059

>>15557052
A race that only China was participating in because they desperately wanted an actual first.

>> No.15557063

>>15557059
cope dog

>> No.15557068

>>15557063
Are you going to eat him, chang?

>> No.15557073

>>15557052
nice rocket

>> No.15557081

Aerojet Rocketdyne is the industry leader in building liquid-propellant rocket engines and the only company in the United States that has ever developed and flown large booster engines, including the nation’s last three major liquid rocket engines: the RS-68, J-2X, and RS-25. The RS-25, based on the Space Shuttle main engine, is the world’s only reusable, staged combustion rocket engine.

uh oh, who wants to tell them to update their website?

>> No.15557085

>>15557081
Reusable website filler text

>> No.15557089

QRD on the Astrobotic/intuitive machines rovers?

>> No.15557092

>>15556608
>engines 1 and 2 haven't been tested yet
pls be true lmao

also this is gonna be a 2 year delay to find out what's wrong with them

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>>15557085

>> No.15557097 [DELETED] 

>>15557081
TOTAL OLDSPACE DEATH

KILL OLDSPACE
DEDUND OLDSPACE
ROUNDHOUSE KICK OLDSPACE DOWN A GRAVITY WELL
SLAM DUNK OLDSPACE PROJECTS WITH CANCELLATION
CRUFICY COST PLUS CONTRACTS
DEFECATE IN AN OLDSPACER'S TURBOPUMPS

>> No.15557101

>>15557068
already done

>> No.15557111
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Will ROSS ever happen?

>> No.15557112

>>15557111
No.

>> No.15557115

>>15557111
Russia is out of proton rockets, and i’m pretty sure Angara was recently diverted to military-only payloads.
So take that as you will

>> No.15557129

>>15557081
Total Oldspace Death
Defund Oldspace
Bankrupt Oldspace
Roundhouse kick Oldspace down a gravity well
Slam dunk modern Oldspace projects with cancellation
Crucify cost plus contracts
Defecate in Oldspace turbopumps

>> No.15557132

>>15556490
1>4>3>5>2

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>>15557111
The first few modules are under construction. They're almost certainly underfunded and behind schedule, but they do exist. It's less of a question of if ROSS will happen and more a question of if it will happen soon enough to prevent a Russian manned spaceflight gap.

>> No.15557145

>>15557029
Didn't he invent the tricone drill bit or something that revolutionized oil drilling?
>nvm, sr did the bicone bit, and the tricone bit was developed while jr owned the company but he didn't have anything to do with the development.

>> No.15557146

>>15557137
This makes me wonder what the Russians will do for human spaceflight if that gap happens

>> No.15557150

>>15557146
They will shut down the factories and training centers and mobilize the workers to the front.

>> No.15557152

>>15557132
personally I think number 1 looks like shit, my order would be 4>2>3>1. there's only 4 rockets in that picture though?

>> No.15557154

>>15557152
>>15557132
4 is absolutely gonna age the best of all of them. this is based on my 55 year old neighbor who looks like she's 30 and has the exact look

>> No.15557174

>>15556020
Almost certainly are. It seems like every time I see a new estimate on how common rogue planets are it increases dramatically, I think currently the rough guess at the moment is ~100-1000 rogue planets for every star.

>> No.15557183

>>15557132
What are you such a fat black monkey anon

>> No.15557184

New James Webb picture(s) tomorrow. Is there any word on what they're releasing pictures of? I'm hankering for some more JWST science more than JWST Wallpaper Engine.

>> No.15557186

>>15557184
Shut up astroonomer we use Starship as our wallpapers here.

>> No.15557192

>>15557184
JWST generates 58.8GB of image data per day. That's a lot of fucking pictures. Filtering it for something interesting and then generating all the color variances of it based on IR data alone takes time. It could be anything, but more than likely will be either:

1. A new galaxy
2. A merger event
3. A new nebula
4. A new star related discovery
5. A new expolanet related discovery
or
6. Something local to Sol itself

>> No.15557196

>>15557184
something disappointing

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>> No.15557378

Did anyone ask for a photodump?

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>>15556925
https://twitter.com/raz_liu/status/1678936033243676673

https://twitter.com/raz_liu/status/1678933525909602306

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>>15557402
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1678937094494846976

> Huge congratulations to LANDSPACE!
> History made on July 12.
> Zhuque-2 is now the world's first methane rocket to reach Earth's orbit.

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https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1678941562590429185

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>>15557408
https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1678956637384474630

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https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1678941940820082688

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https://twitter.com/CosmicalChief/status/1678892737368580097

ring section falling on the ground from a crane

>> No.15557413

>>15557406
America sisters...

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https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1678949709661065217

> Say hello to S24.2 at Starbase. You're interesting!
> Photo by Jack Beyer (@thejackbeyer) for NSF.

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https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1678897715466608641

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>>15557406
https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1678996475861245952

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>>15556296
https://www.space.com/blue-origin-be-4-rocket-engine-explosion

another article about the explosion

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https://payloadspace.com/a-look-at-spacexs-starship-upgrades-as-it-inches-toward-its-second-orbital-attempt/

Summary of changes: electric thrust vector control instead of hydraulics, hot staging, faster throttling in the second test for quicker liftoff and of course the water deluge system/steel plate showerhead

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/10/astra-plans-reverse-stock-split-seeks-to-raise-up-to-65-million.html

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/11/astranis-satellite-internet-coming-to-the-philippines-next-year.html

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>>15557406
https://spacenews.com/chinas-landspace-reaches-orbit-with-methane-powered-zhuque-2-rocket/

> Zhuque-2 beats a range of other methalox rockets, including SpaceX’s Starship, the ULA Vulcan, Blue Origin’s New Glenn, Rocket Lab’s Neutron and Terran R from Relativity Space, in reaching orbit. These other launch vehicles will be much larger and feature much greater payload capacity.

> The successful launch also makes Landspace the second private Chinese launch firm to reach orbit with a liquid propellant rocket. This follows the success of Space Pioneer with its Tianlong-2 rocket in April this year.

> Landspace’s Zhuque-2 is powered by gas generator engines producing 268 tons of thrust. Future Zhuque-2 launches with upgraded second stage engines will be capable of delivering a 6,000-kilogram payload capacity to a 200-kilometer low Earth orbit (LEO), or 4,000 kilograms to 500-kilometer sun-synchronous orbit (SSO), according to Landspace.

>> No.15557437

>>15557412
kek.

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>>15557406
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1678983687386562561

long thread ongoing about zhuque 2, this is a post from the middle

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>>15557438
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1675540303330308096

oh its about chinese spaceflight in general in q3

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>>15556842
https://spacenews.com/former-nasa-astronaut-to-advise-vast-on-commercial-space-station-efforts/

https://www.vastspace.com/updates/vast-welcomes-veteran-nasa-astronaut-garrett-reisman-as-human-spaceflight-advisor

more info

> Reisman joined NASA’s astronaut corps in 1998 and spent three months on the International Space Station in 2008 as part of the Expedition 16 and 17 crews, and another 12 days on the STS-132 shuttle mission to the ISS in 2010. He retired from the astronaut corps in 2011 and worked for SpaceX for several years in various capacities, including director of space operations. He is currently a professor of astronautical engineering at the University of Southern California.

> He said he is particularly interested in the ability of Vast’s space stations to spin and create artificial gravity. “We have a lot of data at zero G and tons of data at one G about what it does to the human body. We have no idea what happens in between,” he said. Those stations, he said, could help answer questions such as how much partial gravity is needed to prevent some of the deleterious effects of microgravity on human physiology.

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>>15557406
https://spacenews.com/u-s-sharpens-plan-for-military-space-race/

kind of relevant

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>>15557428
https://spacenews.com/astranis-to-deliver-geo-broadband-satellite-for-the-philippines-next-year/

another article about the subject

>> No.15557448

>>15557362
>>15557363
>>15557365
>>15557367
>>15557370
>>15557402
>>15557408
>>15557410
>>15557411
>>15557418
>>15557420
>>15557423
>>15557426
>>15557428
>>15557436
>>15557439
>>15557446
>>15557447
all these posts are extremely low quality.
some faggots twitter boomer rambling or tabloid regurgitation of common knowledge is not threadworthy and you should kill yourself.
notice i didn't tag all your posts, some of them are okay. do more of those

>> No.15557452

>>15557448
>regurgitation of common knowledge
Fuck off, I wasn't aware of a lot of this stuff without these posts.

>> No.15557453

>>15557452
go ahead, continue to spam the thread with garbage you faggot fuck

>> No.15557454

>>15557453
okay lets just post krystal then, I will post nothing

>> No.15557458

>>15557454
yeah make sure you post the gif of her getting her ass fucked

>> No.15557460

>>15557453
I am an entirely different person, dipshit.

>> No.15557461

>>15557460
too late, you've been called out. you are a retard exposed

>> No.15557462

>>15557461
have you made a single relevant post, ever?

>> No.15557465

>>15557462
>have you made a single relevant post, ever?
says the guy who posts pedo-adjacent anime ariane 5 girls a week after the last launch.
doesnt get more irrelevant than that

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>>15557406
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1678989334928855041

>> No.15557474

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9NL5TdTYYs

Liftoff of Zhuque-2

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Zhuque-2

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>>15557476

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>>15557477

>> No.15557480

>>15557111
It will probably will happen if nothing too BAD happens to russia as a state by 2030. They’ve got a well advanced flight model of one of the two main modules and have already tested an equivalent node in the ISS

It’ll definitely never go beyond the two modules tho

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https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1679057437956128768

>> No.15557482

>>15557476
It only took China 18 months to do this, btw. From design to launch. We are all fucked.

>> No.15557484

>>15557462
Just ignore him, he's trolling.

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https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1678997994245586947

chinese company basically making copies of starlink

>> No.15557492

>>15554802
>look at the moon
>go blind

>> No.15557497

chinese general

>> No.15557503

>>15556636
Damn wtf never realised how big Viking was

>> No.15557508

>china is the first country in history to send a methane rocket into space
im sick of elon taking his sweet fucking time with starship. he's holding us back.

>> No.15557510

>>15557453
You are correct

>> No.15557516
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Remember the early 2000s when Japan actually seemed like the only country that took methalox seriously?

>> No.15557526

>15557465
the anti-anime schizo is back, we need a mod to properly banish it into the interstellar void

>> No.15557536

>space force will acquire weapon systems in 2026
https://spacenews.com/u-s-sharpens-plan-for-military-space-race/

what will they look like?

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>>15557536
muh dik

>> No.15557549

>>15557536
https://youtu.be/KBMU6l6GsdM

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>>15556970
daily reminder that cold fusion is real

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/china-plans-send-two-rockets-crewed-moon-landing-2023-07-12/

> BEIJING, July 12 (Reuters) - China plans to send two rockets to the moon by 2030, one carrying the spacecraft that will land on the surface and the other transporting the astronauts.

>> No.15557555

>>15557549
>Goes from super aggressive PSSHT PSSHT PSSHT to gently tumbling on the floor
he cute

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https://twitter.com/NASAKennedy/status/1678856321683054597

>> No.15557563

>>15557554
>double rocket launch
at least the chinese are going about it in a smarter way than apollo

>> No.15557571

>>15557563
>Two launches
>smarter way than Apollo
Whatever you say, Chang. Apollo was not a stupid approach by any measure.

>> No.15557584

how long did it take the fire to kill the apollo astronauts? im seeing they burned for 5 minutes?

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>>15554401
Anyone going to be watching the new Star Wars show featuring Elon von Thrawn as the antagonist?

>> No.15557595

>>15555105
But it won't be proven to work
>yes but, if it were, what would be the ramifications
But it won't be
I don't get it

>> No.15557598

>>15557584
p sure they asphyxiated first

>> No.15557605

>>15557594
That's just what Mads' brother looks like with a shave.

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>>15557448
>rating posts
there's a place for that.

>> No.15557663

>>15557561
This looks like it runs avascript

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>>15557561
https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1678940312138391552

>> No.15557701

>>15557526
Some asshole is spamming clickbait and headlines, that's the problem here

>> No.15557702

>>15557674
>wasting my tax dollars on this

>> No.15557703

>>15557701
clickbait? where?
I posted excerpts from the articles before but someone (probably you) whined about that as well

>> No.15557706

imagine not liking news posts

>> No.15557707

>>15557703
to add to this, what do you want to talk about specifically? some small subset of spaceflight I guess? only Starship? What is it?

>> No.15557712

>>15557707
space cuties

>> No.15557713

>>15557712
go to a porn board

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sfg is a porn general

>> No.15557759

>>15557426
>1 to 15 reverse split to avoid getting delisted
That's fucking dire.

>> No.15557764

>>15557706
Space them out, they're only cool when they're new and nobody reads like fifteen in a row, they just skip that shit

>> No.15557766

>>15557759
Can you explain in retard terms, I have no clue how stocks work but I’m interested in this

>> No.15557767

>>15557712
And making fun of Jeff Bezos

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>> No.15557773

>>15557766
Instead of selling a whole watermelon for 20 dollars, I cut it up into 20 pieces and sell them for 1 dollar.

>> No.15557774

>>15557766
imagine a company has a market capitalization of 1 billion, and 100 million shares outstanding
this means each share is worth 10 dollars
stock exchanges have (at least nasdaq) requirements for the share price to be over a certain number, 1 dollar in nasdaqs case
if the stock is below this for an extended period of time, they would get delisted, right now Astras stock price is 0.381 dollars, so either the stock price has to get higher or they can do something called a reverse split where multiple stocks are combined so that the stock price gets higher
this doesnt affect the market cap, but a 15 reverse split would mean 15 stocks get combined into one, and the new stock price would be 5.715
there would just be less shares out there
something more common that happens is a stock split, where the number of shares is multiplied (so lets say you had a stock price of 1000 dollars and did a 5-to-1 stock split, if you had 10 stocks before now you have 50 stocks and each stock is worth 200 dollars instead 1000)
stock splits don't affect the market cap either and are not in and on themselves material events (they don't affect the future cash flows and valuation of the company)
this is done so employees can more easily sell shares, retail (normal people) buying stocks can also more easily do so

tl:dr multiple shares are combined so that the stock price goes over 1 dollar so Astra doesn't get delisted from the stock exchange

>> No.15557777

>>15557766
Stocks that stay under $1 long enough get delisted and turn into "Over The Counter" penny stocks that have poor liquidity and normal investors can't buy. Bed Bath and Beyond got delisted as part of its slide into bankruptcy as a recent example. Astra was coming up on the end of their very last chance to avoid getting delisted. The fact that 15 shares will become one share means they expect the price of a current share of ASTR to fall below 20 cents and stay there. Reverse splits of this size are never performed by healthy companies.

t. /biz/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE1ZB9ZsVBQ

>> No.15557779

>>15557674
>Welcome to the Gillette Fusion ProGlide Artimis II launch at Bud Light launch complex 39B. Sponsored by Canoo, Northrop Grumman, and Wawa.

>> No.15557781

>>15557773
No the other way around

>> No.15557782

>>15557770
Who published this photo? Vast or some hobbyist? Is that Vast’s shop?

>> No.15557784

Staging

>>15557783
>>15557783
>>15557783

>> No.15557789

>>15557782
https://twitter.com/ryannagata/status/1678880949545873408

>> No.15557792

>>15557439
I suspect Cosmic Penguin is one of us. He often posts an anime reference with his China news, even on NSF.

>> No.15557795

>>15557792
Amogus

>> No.15557797

>>15557536
lol at the Death Star blueprint on the wall
guess they're hoping for Star Wars 2.0

>> No.15557824

>>15557436
>6 tons to orbit
wooooooh they really BTFO spaceX by zerg rushing a tiny chink dick spaceship lol