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15553370 No.15553370 [Reply] [Original]

China is on the brink of total collapse

>> No.15553389

Good.

>> No.15553393

>>15553370
based. good riddance

>> No.15553414

yeah yeah american sure, you will remain the only superpower, go back to sleep now grandpa.

>> No.15553441

>>15553370
VIDEOGAME BEARS

>> No.15553442

>>15553370
reading the fucking chicken bones to try to rationalize how an industrial nation with vast resources and immense productive power is going to suddenly collapse without violent, sustained external pressure is peak dimwittery

>> No.15553483

>>15553370
Zeihan is always saying stuff like this but he means it because he has some contrived definition for the word "collapse" that nobody else uses. He's one of those guys where you can look at his research but ignore his conclusions.

>> No.15553487

>>15553442
China's dynastic cycle is over 4,000 years old. Collapsing under their own weight is a Chinese tradition.

>> No.15553488

>>15553414
>>15553442
How many kids did your parents generation have? How many kids does your generation have?
You realize China's entire economy is reliant on cheap numerous expendable labor, and once your population collapses as a failure of chinese men to breed, the economy collapses as well?
Your superpower dream will die with a wet fart in adult diapers, when the majority of China's population is comprised of Old farts instead of Young workers. And that is where China is headed. It's over.

Also, this shit belongs on /pol/, is there no jannies here?

>> No.15553718

"China will collapse next year!!!" - hawks for the last 40 years

>> No.15553927

>>15553488
>You realize China's entire economy is reliant on cheap numerous expendable labor?
You realize they are now taking the path of a developed economy and relying on increasing efficiency and productivity gains over cheap labor? You realize both China & the US (and every nation outside Africa) are suffering from the same problem of collapsing fertility rates?

Yet, China:
>isn't actively hostile to its own people
>investing in getting the youth useful degrees in industry and IT[*]
>has a strong manufacturing base to draw from
>enacting pro-natalist policies to encourage family formation
>secure in its need for fuel and natural resources through its alliances with Russia, Iran & Saudi Arabia + numerous stakes in resource-rich Africa

Meanwhile, in the US:
>ESG ratings forcing businesses to select for diversity over merit
>investing in the youth getting into college no matter how bullshit the degree, student loans at all-time high and major hindrance to family formation
>elites offshored all manufacturing to Asia
>real wages have stagnated since the 70s as productivity gains have been mostly captured by the elite
>essential parts of the economy like agriculture, construction, and maintenance still reliant on the constant flow of cheap illegal scab labor
>bulk of economic activity is from unprofitable tech unicorns and stonks arbitrage that create no real world value
>shoring up fertility rates with the worst solution imaginable: mass immigration from the third world
>spends trillions on pointless foreign wars
>current administration using up accumulated strategic oil reserves to counter effects of pointless proxy war with Russia

I say the US is in a more precarious position than China. Unless they get sensible nationalist policies to tide the decline, the empire may be beyond saving as demographic change will turn the country into an extension of South America.

[*] https://archive.is/GcwlL

>> No.15553933

>>15553370
>and the US isn't

>> No.15553974
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15553974

Green box meme is about SCP-001.

>> No.15553992

>>15553933
that's like mid fr fr, no way we could collapse bro, the next generation is like lit and highly adaptive

>> No.15554003

>maybe if we say it for the millionth time it will finally happen

>> No.15554009

>>15553487
Qing and Ming lasted centuries.

>> No.15554174

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