/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1552324]

Who is the greatest scientist alive today?

Since Norman Ernest Borlaug died late last year, I'm not sure who to pick myself.

[Anonymous No.1552328]

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>>1552328
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[Anonymous No.1552337]

[hi No.1552341]

>>1552337
>>1552328
>trolls detected

[Anonymous No.1552342]

jesus

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[Anonymous No.1552356]

glenn beck

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[Anonymous No.1552359]

>>1552349
who is this guy, and why should i care?

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[Anonymous No.1552363]

GTFO Miko

[Anonymous No.1552364]

>>1552359
because he's one of the worlds greatest physicists (alive), and a leading theoretical physicist.

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>>1552363

[Anonymous No.1552367]

MIKO IS NOT A SCIENTIST. HE WORKS AT A SHITTY COMMUNITY COLLAGE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

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[Anonymous No.1552371]

>>1552367
Aren't physicists scientists too?

[Anonymous No.1552376]

>>1552367
i got my phd from harvard, on a full scholarship.

don't you backsass me boy.

[Anonymous No.1552380]

whats goin on here guyz?

[Anonymous No.1552381]

>>1552371
if they're good at it maybe, not shitty ones like Dr. Popscience asian retard

[Anonymous No.1552382]

>>1552359
Michio Kaku, worlds greatest physicist/scientist (currently), but he dumbs his shit down into layman terms, so that even retards can understand science/physics/etc., so he loses credibility as a scientist and should not be spoken of.

[Anonymous No.1552384]

>>1552380
you're a faggot politician

get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.1552386]

[Anonymous No.1552387]

I vote for Dawkins.

[Anonymous No.1552389]

>>1552382
and what's wrong with that?

Sagan and Tyson do the same shit.
he inspires people all over the world into becoming interested in this field of study.

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[Anonymous No.1552391]

>>1552389
no, he inspires retards to sell fake products because "quantum mechanics dun it"

[Anonymous No.1552394]

>>1552386
I lol'd

[Anonymous No.1552395]

Who is better,

Jim Al-Khalililili or Michio Kakukuku?

[Anonymous No.1552396]

>>1552391
no, you're stupid and know nothing of my work and contributions

[Anonymous No.1552399]

>>1552389
It casualizes and mainstreams science so that even a redneck can get interested in and pursue a degree without any intellect or foresight in understand the real shit, completely ignoring all the math and figures that goes into learning science itself, and just spouts and spreads them to other retards who'll only understand the bare principles instead of the actual science.

[Anonymous No.1552403]

>>1552382
HURR DURR.

SCIENCE IS A SECRET CLUB, AND SHOULDN'T BE USED TO INSPIRE AND EDUCATE KIDS SO THAT THEY CAN GROW UP TO BE SCIENTISTS, HELPING HUMANITY AS A WHOLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

[Anonymous No.1552406]

>>1552390
“Another thing we can do for jobs is make toys of me, especially for the holidays. Little dolls. Me. Like maybe little action dolls. Me in an army uniform, air force uniform, and me in my suit. They can make toys of me and my vehicle, especially for the holidays and Christmas for the kids. That’s something that would create jobs."

[Anonymous No.1552408]

>>1552399
so you would rather have the average person NOT interested in physics what so ever?

most people don't even know what the fuck quantum mechanics study.

and you never know, it could cause these red necks to decide to take a class or two on physics, maybe even pursue a degree.

[Anonymous No.1552414]

derp

[Anonymous No.1552417]

This thread has successfully been Kakufied.

[Anonymous No.1552421]

>>1552364
LOL. STFU. Michio Kaku has discovered literally nothing. Being a TV presenter doesn't make you a great physicist. If you want great physicists, you might want to start with the nobel laureates in physics, as they've all discovered something significant.

Gell-Mann is on that list discovering the fucking quark. And he is still alive. So he's the best candidate I can think of.

[Anonymous No.1552422]

>>1552395

>Michio Kakukuku

Oh God, I lol'd.

[CommandCenter !!+V9m0oOVCEr No.1552426]

Michio Poopoo

[Anonymous No.1552427]

>>1552399
It's people like you that make people suspicious of science. I'd rather have people occationally getting it wrong than people not understanding shit.

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[Anonymous No.1552432]

>>1552408
But they are common man, retards, and will only dumb down science so that even some random douche will be credited by his peers for talking about the bare basics of string theory he learned from a documentary, instead of actual people that actually spent years to understand all they could about science. Those people, the latter, should credited and given recognition for their efforts, not common people that know nothing about science other than what they heard from a tv show. You're taking away credibility and rewards from real scientists.

[Anonymous No.1552439]

>>1552421
>underageb& detected

also, he has contributed quite a bit to the superstring theory.

and he popularizes science amazingly with making people all over america interested in the things he's saying.

[Anonymous No.1552447]

>>1552408
I think it's great that people like Kaku and Cox go into the field of popularizing physics. But they are now publicists, not scientists. Much less are the THE GREATEST scientists. Neither having a recognizable face, nor popularizing science makes you a good scientists.

[Anonymous No.1552450]

>>1552432
you're retarded, honestly.

how is some random person who pursues some knowledge & interest in this field take away any credibility from someone who is actually contributing to it?

[Anonymous No.1552462]

>>1552432
Hello, I'm Timmy the cook and I think you're a stupid redneck if you cook your own food. You shouldn't be allowed to create recipes and share them online, because you are taking credibility away from the real cooks who have taken years out of their lives to learn how to create proper meals!

You dumb down cooking with your inferior use of pots and pans, and poor taste!

[Anonymous No.1552466]

>>1552439
I guess they just keep FORGETTING to give him his nobel prize for his awesome contributions. Popularizing science is not science.

By your logic Zahi Hawass is the world's greatest mummy, because he popularizes mummies.

[Anonymous No.1552469]

>>1552450
Because they get credited with for their scientific knowledge, instead of the person who actually contributes (who deserves the credit and not the common man). The contributors never get anything, only the people who express their knowledge do. This is why popular science is the death of science, it allows just anyone to get into it and spread knowledge, which in turn falsifies it.

[Anonymous No.1552472]

>>1552462
>implying thats not completely true

[Anonymous No.1552475]

My name is Murray Gell-Mann, and I am the last of the great living physicists.

[Anonymous No.1552481]

>>1552469
This guy is just nuts. Stop arguing with him.

[Anonymous No.1552485]

>>1552469
So you're completely fine with people being uneducated? You want people to stay uneducated and only let a limited few pursue their degrees/educate themselves in science?

[Anonymous No.1552491]

>>1552469
wat

Every fucking documentary out there by these popularizers are about strides revolutions and triumphs in earlier ages.

In fact so few of them are about up-to-date science, that even those that were made in the seventies are still watchable. They celebrate their field, not individuals.

[Anonymous No.1552493]

>>1552485
At least those few actually deserve it, and not just your common retard.

[Anonymous No.1552494]

>>1552475
agreed

[Anonymous No.1552499]

Like it means shit that you get to study physics in to Harvard

[Anonymous No.1552503]

These are the greatest living physics. They are the living winners of non-shared nobel prizes in physics.

1992 Georges Charpak "for his invention and development of particle detectors, in particular the multiwire proportional chamber"
1991 Pierre-Gilles de Gennes "for discovering that methods developed for studying order phenomena in simple systems can be generalized to more complex forms of matter, in particular to liquid crystals and polymers"
1985 Klaus Von Klitzing "for the discovery of the quantized Hall effect"
1982 Kenneth G. Wilson "for his theory for critical phenomena in connection with phase transitions"
1969 Murray Gell-Mann "for his contributions and discoveries concerning the classification of elementary particles and their interactions"
1967 Hans Albrecht Bethe "for his contributions to the theory of nuclear reactions, especially his discoveries concerning the energy production in stars"

full list: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/library/nobel/

[Anonymous No.1552510]

How about I fuck your gook shit nigga,

Its the fucking hawkinator in the house

[Anonymous No.1552512]

>my face when Alvin made a cameo in this thread

[Anonymous No.1552516]

>>1552510
He's a popscientist too, therefore loses just as amount of credibility.

[Anonymous No.1552521]

>>1552516
Hawking at least made a very significant contribution to physics, unlike kakuku.

[Anonymous No.1552524]

>>1552516

>hawking
>sits in a fucking wheelchair doing entropy sums all day
>needs 3 bitches to hold his dick while he pisses
>popscientist

Cool Story Bro Inc.

[Anonymous No.1552543]

>>1552524
He, like Kaku, dumbs his shit down for the retards to understand, thus is a popscientist.

[Anonymous No.1552554]

>>1552503

So your only criteria for greatness is winning a non-shared Nobel prize?

That's like saying Titanic is the best movie ever made because it won 11 Oscars.

[Anonymous No.1552580]

>>1552554
>So your only criteria for greatness is winning a non-shared Nobel prize?
yes.

>That's like saying Titanic is the best movie ever made because it won 11 Oscars.

No it isn't. Nobel prizes in physics are given for actual significant contributions to physics.

[Anonymous No.1552595]

>>1552462
Correct win.

[Anonymous No.1552597]

Wasn't Michio Kaku the one who fleshed out string theory to what it is now? Or at least the one who could interpret and understand what Einstein was trying to get at with it, and produced the version that many scientists are continuing to develop?

[Anonymous No.1552598]

>>1552580
Tesla never won a nobel prize.

By your logic he contributed nothing in the field of physics and sciences.

[Anonymous No.1552602]

>>1552597
yes.

but no one really knows for sure what einstein was trying to get at.

string theory attempts to unify QM and GR

[Anonymous No.1552615]

>>1552602
Einstein was trying to get at theory for everything.

[Anonymous No.1552732]

>>1552598
Tesla was not a physicist. He was an inventor. He discovered a lot of cool ways to use electricity, but he contributed nothing to physics.

[Anonymous No.1552734]

>>1552732
moving electrons aren't considered physics?

OH LAWD

[Anonymous No.1552735]

>>1552399

Because that's better than not understanding anything at all. Something tells me that you were abused and mistreated as a child... or adult. Care to talk about it?

[Anonymous No.1552740]

Michio Kaku

[Anonymous No.1552748]

>>1552735
see
>>1552557

he's already been told.

[Anonymous No.1552753]

>>1552597
He did some important research in string theory and supersymmetry, in the early stages of those fields. Not to diminish his contributions, but there were a lot of other people who's names neither of us know offhand who did similar work. We just know kaku because he's on tv.

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>>1552734
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.1552797]

>>1552768
The field of electricity:

* Electric charge – a property of some subatomic particles, which determines their electromagnetic interactions. Electrically charged matter is influenced by, and produces, electromagnetic fields.
* Electric current – a movement or flow of electrically charged particles, typically measured in amperes.
* Electric field – an influence produced by an electric charge on other charges in its vicinity.
* Electric potential – the capacity of an electric field to do work on an electric charge, typically measured in volts.
* Electromagnetism – a fundamental interaction between the magnetic field and the presence and motion of an electric charge.


Name me one of those that don't fall under physics niggercunt bitch faggot cock-up divvy dago gitty grotty manky pish tyke wally nigger ass bitch.

[Anonymous No.1552805]

>>1552768
Yes I am. Please disregard the next post I direct at you.

[Anonymous No.1552817]

>>1552734
>Implying engineering is science

Oh I didn't did I?

[Anonymous No.1552827]

>>1552797
I see... and which these fundamental properties did Tesla add to the understanding of? Is a sculptor a physicist since he works with atoms?

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>>1552732
isn't magnetic field strength measured in Teslas? i think you have to have made a pretty important contribution to have a unit named after you

[Anonymous No.1552835]

>>1552732
Agreed Tesla was not a physicist, he was actually a faggot (engineer). He didnt discover anything new about electricity, all he did was come up with fancy ways to apply it. The fundentals of EM "maxwells equations" are physics.

Applying those equations is usually just considered engineering (shit tier)

[Anonymous No.1552837]

>>1552827
get out

just get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.1552846]

>>1552835
you can go too.

[Anonymous No.1552848]

>>1552835
Exactly what I was going to say... that everything Tesla came up with was an engineering application of the physics discovered by Maxwell and his predecessors.

[Anonymous No.1552853]

>>1552827
agreed Tesla was not a physicist, he just did shitty applications (engineering)

[Anonymous No.1552856]

No matter how much you guys hate engineers and say they are faggots

Electrical engineering has A LOT to do with physics.

And at Tesla's time, all of his work was original, so he's not the gay engineers you guys refer to in modern times.

[Anonymous No.1552859]

>>1552853
>>1552848
>>1552835
>>1552827
>>1552805
an odd combination of

underageb&
and
samefag

actually it's not that uncommon.

[Anonymous No.1552872]

>>1552830
The magnetic field is also measured in Gauss. Do you think Gauss was a physicist?

[Anonymous No.1552873]

>>1552580
Your non-shared criterion leaves out Glashow and Weinberg.

[Anonymous No.1552876]

>>1552837
>>1552846
LMAO

Tesla is not considered a scienist or physicist by any legit scientific org or uni program.

When learning about EM, Tesla is never really brought up. If he only mentioned when refering to engineering, and basic engineering applications of EM.

Only retarded little kids on /sci/ every confuse Tesla for a scientist.

[Anonymous No.1552877]

I am.

In the year 2843 I am going to invent a time machine. I cam back to this moment so that I could tell you that I am fucking awesome.

Also, I am currently alive at this time, therefore, it counts.

Suck on it bitches.

Also, primitive captcha system is primitive. In the future, we make people insert their genitalia into specialized ports on their computers and perform biometrics in an exceptionally pleasant manner in order to verify their humanity.

[Anonymous No.1552878]

>>1552856
I like engineering and I think Tesla was a genius. None of this makes Tesla a physicist.

[Anonymous No.1552881]

>>1552853

when tesla (and edison) were doing their engineering work that was "just applying physics", the physicists of the day didn't even know which fucking direction electrons go. applications my ass.

[Anonymous No.1552887]

>>1552873
I wouldn't be opposed to selectively adding some of the shared recipients

[Anonymous No.1552889]

>>1552881
and you're saying Tesla is the one who discovered which way electrons go?

[Anonymous No.1552891]

>>1552856
No fucker. Tesla was not a physicist. He is not Taught/studied or part of any physics program, even on the PHd level. No one, but dumbass little kids think he was a physicist!

Tesla was an engineer (faggot).
Also, Bill Nye is a engineer (faggot) too. He only played a scientist on TV. No one wants to watch the "engineering guy". Conservative parents dont like exposing their children to homosexuals!

[Anonymous No.1552895]

>>1552878
It doesn't make him a physicist, indeed.
It makes him an electrical engineer

Which he indirectly contributed to physics with.

Only retarded underageb& or retards in general think his contributions are anything less than great.

[Anonymous No.1552909]

>>1552881
Regardless, Tesla or Edision didnt find that shit out either. Can you just Stop being a little bitch for a second? Is your vagina just bleeding to much?

Your logic is just fucking retarded! Do you consider the Guy who made the TV? Or the Toaster to be physicist?

Application of known physics isnt physics!
GTFO!

[Anonymous No.1552920]

>>1552895
No one has said his contributions weren't great. But several people have repeatedly pointed out that TESLA WASN'T A FUCKING SCIENTIST.

I don't agree with the above poster who says that a physicist needs a PhD, although nowadays you probably can't contribute to the field without one. What you do need to be a physicist is to work on problems concerning the fundamental properties of nature. Tesla didn't work on any such problems. He worked exclusively on problems of what could be practically accomplished and technologically built. This is not what a scientist does. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with it, or the contributions weren't great. It only means that Tesla wasn't a scientist.

[Anonymous No.1552928]

>>1552909
even the application of unknown physics isn't physics.

[Anonymous No.1552948]

>>1552920
Definitions of scientist on the Web:

* a person with advanced knowledge of one or more sciences

Work on electricity = science (electrical engineering)

Meaning Tesla was a scientist.

/thread

[Anonymous No.1552954]

>>1552948
continuing ..
Electrical Engineering:

"the branch of engineering science that studies the uses of electricity and the equipment for power generation and distribution and the control of machines and communication"
>engineering science
>science

Anyone who says Tesla wasn't a scientist doesn't speak English correctly.

[Anonymous No.1552981]

>>1552954
>engineering science
LMFAO
say it again...
>engineering science
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.1552988]

Damn faucet... I'm going to have to call a plumbing scientist.

[Anonymous No.1553041]

>>1552909

i never said that tesla figured that out. just saying that ITT people are making it sound like physicists build roads and plant trees and then engineers are just idiots that walk in and grab the low hanging fruit. this isn't really the case, engineers and theoretical scientists have been playing leapfrog in most fields since forever.

[Anonymous No.1553057]

>>1552981
"pure" scifags get the fuck out and realize that engineers will forever own your asses

[Anonymous No.1553087]

>>1552324

>borlaug
>great

without him a lot of countries would not have overpopulation, natural selection should have been allowed to take place among those areas.

[Anonymous No.1553163]

>>1552891

Oh, shut the hell up already. We can get your point without you having to expose yourself as either an underage b& or a manchild with autism.

[ЯR !!qSRZhfCxFtq No.1553183]

>>1552872
umm, ever heard of Gauss' Law for electric fields? maybe this will refresh your memory
<div class="math">\oint{\vec{E}\cdot d\vec{A}}=\frac{Q_{enc}}{\epsilon_0}</div>

[Anonymous No.1554259]

>>1553087
What the fuck.