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Is IQ basically just learning things faster and having more memory storage? Is there more to it?

>> No.15484556

>>15484548
There is also the ability to comprehend.
Extreme example, a chimp is too low IQ to ever understand any kind of math

>> No.15484583

>>15484548
I see it as a trifecta of memory, logic, and social grace

>> No.15484669

Think of it as cubbies: the higher the IQ the more cubbies to place tools inside but at the cost of obscurity of organization.
>social grace
Lol

>> No.15484757

>>15484548
Look at any iq test, it's almost exclusively visual figure manipulation questions, it's so much so that most researchers topped saying "IQ test" and just say visuospatial test.
IQ is basically just your brains gpu

>> No.15484808

>>15484556
Chimps know if you give them one grape, but give other chimp two grapes and will freak the fuck out until you make it even.

>> No.15484809

>>15484556
IQ only applies to humans because it is based on mental age. Furthermore it would be next to impossible to test an animal's iq given that iq tests are delivered in a way for humans rather than animals to understand

>> No.15484811

>>15484556
IQ only applies to humans because it is based on mental age. Furthermore it would be next to impossible to test an animal's iq given that iq tests are delivered in a way for humans rather than animals to understand

>> No.15484813

>>15484811
Nah, animal trainers have IQ tests that can quantify the problem solving and trainability of the various animals they work with, 100 is just normalized to a different scale and the tests are not as densely language and trivia based, just like testing children vs adults.

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>>15484548

>> No.15484879

>>15484556
>Extreme example, a chimp is too low IQ to ever understand any kind of math
And yet if you flash it a couple numbers, which are then subsequently hidden, it can pick the numbers in perfect order better and faster than any human can

>> No.15484885

>>15484548
>Is there more to it?
The ability to synthesize new information greatly improves.

>> No.15484891

>>15484885
>synthesize
>Implying this is intelligent

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There's not enough diversity in IQ tests to consider them a measure of intelligence. Their content and their categorization isn't even perfect and does not even challenge intelligence. People who believe in IQ are retards - don't give them attention.

>> No.15485007

>>15484757
>hasn't taken a real IQ test

>> No.15485119

>>15484902
you know I've been seeing your tripfaggin posts all fucking morning and I'd like to call you a faggot

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>>15484548
A hugely underappreciated aspect of intelligence differences is having different sets of discreet features. Low IQ people are incapable of certain types of thought, no matter how much time you give them to think. There's pic related, and of course other things like the ability to comprehend percentages and probabilities, visualize things, etc.

>> No.15485210

>>15484548
Only retards make or like unironic midwit bell curve memes

>> No.15485215

>>15484548
It's a composite of crystalized intelligence (knowledge you acquire that can be applied) and fluid intelligence (general problem solving ability). The former grows over time and the latter can basically only be refined to some extents with training in reason.

>> No.15485283

>>15484548
Learning faster and memory storage are definitely part of it, but I think these aren't the most fundamental aspects.

I think one of the more fundamental aspects of IQ is how many things you can hold in your working memory at the same time. I have noticed that when trying to explain things to stupid people, sometimes they forget the first thing I said by the time I've gotten to the end, and then I need to start over and keep reminding them about parts of the explanation that they weren't able to remember. It's like trying to write a paragraph with disappearing ink, and you can never get it all down at once. I think this is a major barrier to less intelligent people being able to comprehend more complicated things.

There are also big differences between people in memory access speed, which is a huge component of learning and problem solving, but I don't think this can be further broken down into more constituent parts or explained by any other property. Like if you ask a smart person and a stupid person what a crab's shell is made of, or any other random trivia which isn't actively used by them, and assuming they both do actually know the answer, the smart person will be able to recall the answers faster.

I think that intelligent people also spend more time sorting or defragmenting their memory to keep them organized and neat which allows for faster recollection and makes it easier to see patterns and draw inferences across various domains of information. For example, it's possible to know that crab shells are made of chitin, and that mushrooms are made of chitin, but simultaneously not know that crab shells and mushrooms are made of the same material as each other. Everyone has experienced the feeling of realizing that two seemingly disparate pieces of information actually refer to the same object. But dumb people spend way less time doing this and their brains are full of loose threads and unsorted objects.