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The original reason given for Autism was 'refrigerator mothers', basically neglectful mothers. The symptoms of maternal deprivation and Autism are basically the same. I'm wondering if the original reason was actually correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator_mother_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_deprivation

It's possible that their poor emotional ability is due to long term maternal neglect. Perhaps the high IQ autist, is actually a high IQ man with emotional trauma. Are there any cases of low IQ parents having a high IQ autistic kid?

Quote from the refrigerator mother Wikipedia page

>According to Peter Breggin's 1991 book Toxic Psychiatry, the psychogenic theory of autism was abandoned because of political pressure from parents' organizations, not for scientific reasons. For example, some case reports have shown that profound institutional privation can result in quasi-autistic symptoms.[17] Clinician Frances Tustin devoted her life to the theory. She wrote:
>One must note that autism is one of a number of children's neurological disorders of psychogenic nature, i.e., caused by abusive and traumatic treatment of infants. ...There is persistent denial by American society of the causes of damage to millions of children who are thus traumatized and brain damaged as a consequence of cruel treatment by parents who are otherwise too busy to love and care for their babies.

Psychiatry is not immune to political pressure. If Autism is real, then it should be detectable in the genes and fMRI brain scans. Autism brain scans reveal minor differences which could be due to trauma rather than anything genetic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CUn81EBVGM
That's a video on identical twins where only one has Autism. How is this possible if it's purely genetic? One of the twins should have higher amount of environmental toxins in the blood, if that is indeed the cause as some speculate, but that also has never been proven.

What are your thoughts /sci/?

>> No.15471897

>>15471893
If autism was something that developed during childhood as opposed to pre-birth than it wouldn't have a distinctive "look" or set of facial features attached to it. By necessity it's either genetic like downs or caused in the womb like FAS

>> No.15471903

>>15471897
Look? Sorry, I'm still learning about it, but Autistic people normal no? And /pol/ has the high IQ Autist meme, what facial changes are there? I've never seen this discussed before.

>> No.15471929

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CUn81EBVGM
>ywn have an autistic 4 year old girl nibble on your chest hair and unbutton all of your clothes.

>> No.15472245

>>15471893
>The original reason given for Autism was 'refrigerator mothers', basically neglectful mothers
That's like saying the cause of blue eyes is a blue-eyed caregiver. 'Refrigerator mothers' would themselves qualify as autistic under present diagnostic criteria.

>> No.15472455

>>15471893
No, it's probably due to chemicals like glyphosate disrupting gut biome behaviour.

And if that is the case then we need to find a way to eliminate it and other toxins from our environment and entire food supply system.

This will reuire extensive reform

>> No.15472457

>>15471893
No, but an autistic child is likely to be difficult to handle leading to burned out moms neglecting their kids.

Parental neglect causes bad attachment styles, not developmental disorders.

>> No.15472545

>>15471897
>If autism was something that developed during childhood as opposed to pre-birth than it wouldn't have a distinctive "look" or set of facial features attached to it.
Source: ass

>> No.15472815

Make your life fun in unfun environment is just natural.

>> No.15473230

>>15472245
he is right about it seemingly being both genes and environment
having the gene puts you at high risk but doesn't guaranty autism, the current data suggests at least.
and without straight up neglect, early childhood trauma that leads to a fear of the world and having doubt in the faculties of either you or your caregivers to protect you from or deal with accurately
or something along that line of thought...

>> No.15473234

>>15472455
This.

>> No.15473237

>>15471893
I think its kids growing up in technological environments. It deprives them of the two way recpirocal emotional interactions and causes their development to be predicated on a one way user control based interaction.

Its the same for how many kids who grew up in the 90s were normal, then as they embraced coding or computers then turn autistic. I was fairly sociable, now im far less due to tech over time. And also why so many people have lost their sociability in favour of very individualistic control and aggression based personas through social media.