/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15470249]

New science is out, it says facial recognition software can now determine your political outlook from your face

[Anonymous No.15470252]

>>15470249
>t.

[Anonymous No.15470254]

>>15470249
So? Nothing new. Men with wide faces and deeper eye sockets are more masculine due to higher testosterone levels. It has been known for ages.

[Anonymous No.15470257]

>>15470254
What does any of that have to do with determining political orientation based on facial features

[Anonymous No.15470261]

>>15470257
Masculine men like traditional and natural things and reject idiocracy based on feelings, not logic.

How hard is that to understand? Find me a masculine looking leftoid or liberal.

[Anonymous No.15470265]

So what you're saying is that leftists just want everyone else to be unhappy so that they can relate better?

[Anonymous No.15470268]

>>15470249
>Physiognomy but we have some computers doing some bullshit
Why are they like this? Why do they need a computer to tell what their brain knows

[Anonymous No.15470271]

>>15470268
They are afraid of being called racist kek. Phenotypes and Physiognomy isn't real, races aren't real. EXPECT when we want to make a point, you chud racists.

[Anonymous No.15470274]

>>15470261
>Masculine men like traditional and natural things and reject idiocracy based on feelings, not logic
Nice fantasy you made up in your head, but sadly that is a scientifically baseless claim.
>Find me a masculine looking leftoid or liberal.
picrel

[Anonymous No.15470276]

>>15470265
they don't want to try to improve themselves, instead they want to bring everyone down to their level and destroy anyone who refuses to comply.
kurt vonnegut wrote a good short story about it, called "harrison bergeron"
https://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

[Anonymous No.15470283]

>>15470274
You could've made this point by posting rat face goebbels, now you just come across as a faggot. You're right anyhow

[Anonymous No.15470284]

>>15470249
You can just look at a politician and guess with 80% accuracy their faction/party
>>15470274
Case in point. He's just a grifter.
He doesn't believe in things he says, he's 100% in for the money.

[Anonymous No.15470299]

>>15470274
His face is narrow, not masculine. And roiding is one step from becoming a tranny.

[Anonymous No.15470392]

>>15470274
He takes steroids though, that shrinks your balls and turns you liberal

[Anonymous No.15470416]

>>15470299
>>15470392
>umm higher testosterone actually makes you more right wing and masculine
>EXCEPT IF YOU INJECT EXOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE, THAT MAKES YOU A LEFT WING TRANNY EVEN THOUGH YOUR TEST LEVELS ARE MAGNITUDES HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE MALE'S.

Also no way he's actually on gear, anyone have a source where he admits to that? that's 1-2 years of lifting tops, absolutely pathetic if he roided for that

[Anonymous No.15470419]

>>15470249
le soi face is real

[Anonymous No.15470425]

>>15470416
>>umm higher testosterone actually makes you more right wing and masculine
Yes
>>EXCEPT IF YOU INJECT EXOGENOUS TESTOSTERONE
Correct

[Anonymous No.15470444]

>>15470425
Non sequitur. There is no funcional difference between natural and exogenous testosterone.

[Anonymous No.15470456]

>>15470444
The fact your body knows the testosterone is exogenous and stops producing it naturally, leading to testicle shrinkage and hormone imbalances like aromatization, is proof there is a functional difference

[Anonymous No.15470457]

>>15470249
>more likely to have happy faces and less likely to have neutral expressions
Whether the phots were taken from these people in the wild or for the study, it just means right wingers are just more smug in every day life and when being photographed. Has nothing to do with facial structure. Utterly shit study.

[Anonymous No.15470460]

61% sounds like shit. How big is the data set?

If 55% - 65% of the politicians in the db are considered liberal and the set is small enough, then simply guessing liberal every time (the null model) could yield similar results.

[Anonymous No.15470479]

61 percent is not much better than flipping a coin

[Anonymous No.15470545]

>>15470444
>There is no funcional difference between natural and exogenous testosterone.
Except there is. Human body regulates itself and knows when something is off or not right.

[Anonymous No.15470699]

>>15470479
this lmao. that extra 11% is just coming from demographics, since political ideology and facial characteristics both correlate with demographics. In fact from the state of identity politics in America I think anyone can do a much better job by simply guessing right-wing for White and hispanic males and left-wing every time for everyone else.

[Anonymous No.15471125]

>ppl born with lesser genetics self-identity as victims
they are, evolution isn't fair, life isn't fair, people are not equal, some are superior, most are inferior

[Anonymous No.15471140]

>>15470456
>>15470545
That has to do with the homeostatic negative feedback loop and not the hormone itself.

[Anonymous No.15471143]

>>15470249
>science has automated stereotyping people
We need to stop funding science. Science is over, it's done enough already and now it can just go away.

[Anonymous No.15471179]

‘Bioleninism’ describes a familiar phenomenon in Clown World – social rejects coming together to force their will on society at large. A feature of Clown World is that people who normally keep themselves hidden away out of shame are out and proud. Even worse, they are organised and controlling the narrative. Bioleninism is the thread that binds them all. The original Leninism was a kind of slave morality that attracted many of society’s misfits. Much like Christianity in the Roman Empire, which first became popular among slaves, Leninism first became popular among those at the bottom of society. In the case of Russia, it wasn’t slaves but drunkards, prostitutes, petty criminals and those shunned for cruelty. Characteristic of all popular slave moralities is that they bring together the resentful. Christianity did this, the original Communism did this, and now the bottom-feeders of Clown World are coming together to do it again – this is Bioleninism.

[Anonymous No.15471185]

>>15471140
So you admit the body literally knows something is wrong and tries to fix it because the body knows it's female and never will be a man but still somehow try to grift that muh FtMs are totally hecking valid men.

[Anonymous No.15471187]

>>15470252
Keked

[Anonymous No.15471195]

>>15470249
The authors of the study seem pretty retarded. They're not analyzing the faces of voters, they're analyzing the faces of politicians—the faces that voters are selecting to represent their political outlooks. A better conclusion is that right-wing voters prefer to be represented by happy, attractive people, while left-wing voters prefer to be represented by nasty, scolding Karens.

[Anonymous No.15471214]

>>15470254
I hate testosterone so much

[Anonymous No.15471274]

>>15470252
Kek! That's the antifa gay-troon left-wad face for sure!

That guy is a famous meme now.

[Anonymous No.15471289]

>>15471195
Not just the voter, but (arguably far more importantly) the parties etc that decide who are on the ballets. Politicians are a self-selected category as well. Even if they're selected by others in one way or another, not any random person will sign up for it.

[Anonymous No.15471295]

>>15471185
Nobody mentioned FtMs you schizo. The discussion was about males injecting large enough amounts of exogenous testosterone to exceed their natural production, in which case regardless of the negative side effects such a male would exhibit more masculine traits. There is no world where increased levels of testosterone increase femininity

[Anonymous No.15471311]

>>15471295
> no world where increased levels of testosterone increase femininity
Not him but see for example doi.org/10.1517/14740338.2012.712109

[Anonymous No.15471507]

>>15471311
I would count that as a negative side effect rather than an increase in femininity, since the overall effect is still overwhelmingly an increase in both physically and behaviourally masculine traits. Gyno is moreso a product of the poor health of the individual due to their abnormal hormonal profile, and can be prevented with use of an aromatase inhibitor

[Anonymous No.15471514]

>SOURCE? SOURCE??? IS THERE A SOURCE FOR THAT?

internet shitlords have known this for a long time, which is why basedjacks make redditors freak out so hard

[Anonymous No.15471528]

>>15470249
>61% prediction accuracy
>left/right paradigm

[Anonymous No.15471605]

Whats really funny about this is that memes knew all about it years before science figured it out

[Anonymous No.15471606]

my political beliefs are just those of whatever online community I spend my time on in a given period

[Anonymous No.15471625]

>>15471274
That image seems to have struck a nerve

[Anonymous No.15471671]

>>15470249
As other's have pointed out, isn't a 61% predictive accuracy rate total dogshit? You'd have a better rate by just listing all women as liberal and all men over 35 as conservative.

[Anonymous No.15471931]

>>15471179
>"slave morality"
slaves don't have morality, thats why they have to be whipped to behave. if nobody cracks the whip then you end up with the inmates running the asylum

[VIRUSES DON'T EXIST No.15472031]

>>15471931
you are total retard

[Anonymous No.15472189]

>>15470299
>His face is narrow, not masculine
I'm not even a narrow-faced leftoid but holy cope

[Anonymous No.15472403]

>>15470274
>but sadly that is a scientifically baseless claim.
>Before the testosterone treatment, we found that weakly affiliated Democrats had 19% higher basal testosterone than those who identified strongly with the party (p=0.015). When weakly affiliated Democrats received additional testosterone, the strength of their party fell by 12% (p=.01) and they reported 45% warmer feelings towards Republican candidates for president (p < 0.001). Our results demonstrate that testosterone induces a “red shift" among weakly-affiliated Democrats. This effect was associated with improved mood. No effects were found of testosterone administration for strongly affiliated Democrats or strong or weak Republicans. Our findings provide evidence that neuroactive hormones affect political preferences.

[Anonymous No.15472459]

>>15470249
>faces of Danish politicians
Cool useless study.

[Anonymous No.15472948]

>>15472403

[Anonymous No.15472971]

>>15470249
And 90 % of its predictive power is based on being able to predict gender and testosterone levels from facial structure.

[Anonymous No.15472975]

>>15470274
Liberalism = nationalism for browns, and that guy is a nationalist for sure. If he's in the west, he's a liberal. If he's in the middle east, he's a conservative.

[Anonymous No.15472984]

>>15471507
I understand but I still count tits as a feminine trait.

[Anonymous No.15472995]

Well, the golden ratio applies to faces, so the more beautiful you are the better people will treat you, and the better people treat you based on your physiognomy, the more you’re going to believe in meritocracy, therefore the more ugly/deformed you are the more likely you are to support ideologies focusing on forced equity.
This isn’t a hard and fast rule of course because there are other factors that determine your outlook on life but how people treat you initially without knowing anything about you beyond your appearance is certainly going to be a major influence

[Anonymous No.15473014]

>>15470249
>biological white male
>instantly labeled white nationalist terrorist
Yeah no shit it can determine your political outlook when "political outlooks" were designated by some 40 yo HR roastie telling fags in a computer science department what kind of "political outlooks" exist and they code it into the program and just accept it as academia
Behavioral sciences should be removed forever

[Anonymous No.15473069]

[DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.15473161]

>>15471179
>it wasn’t slaves but drunkards, prostitutes, petty criminals and those shunned for cruelty
You forgit Actors who, sibce ancient times, were treated just like prostitutes

[DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.15473165]

>>15472995
>on forced equity.
just call it equitocracy. don't make it sound as if it was not political

[DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.15473173]

>>15473014
Computers can tell what (sub)race you are based on your pictures.
They can tell if you are gay or a pedo.
I think the problem with OP's study is the fact that the State is not the peoples meaninv that it is uselss to use politician's data to guess people's political outlooks and vice versa

[Anonymous No.15473677]

>>15470419
always has been

[Anonymous No.15473842]

[Anonymous No.15473855]

>>15470249
Read what you posted faggot.
Hardly better than coin toss accuracy.
Probably worse than asking a random person to judge:
Ugly and weak and bad == left
Beautiful and strong and good == right

[Anonymous No.15474740]

>>15473855
the software is only going to get more refined and more accurate as more data is gathered and as more computing power is accurate.

[Anonymous No.15474999]

>>15471625
>That image seems to have struck a nerve
Yeah, people don't like being reminded the he was a Jewish Democrat.

[Anonymous No.15475001]

>>15470249
So basically they discovered that if you're ugly and unpleasant, you tend to be leftist?
Wasn't this already widely known?

[Anonymous No.15475252]

I guess this explains the extraordinarily high prevalence, over 90%, of leftism on university campuses and especially amongst faculty and phd students. Everyone who gets a PhD is hideously repulsive.

[Anonymous No.15475455]

>>15474740
I'm saying this version is worthless.
The had a faggot detector working at over 0.85 years ago.
I'm very surprised by how shitty the score is
>>15475001
Yeah it's common knowledge at this point

[Anonymous No.15475483]

>>15474740
its already impressively accurate, a better than 3:2 ratio of right to wrong is substantially better than random guessing. the people who cope by trying to say that its not impressive are doubtlessly ugly sissified leftist types who are ashamed of their own lack of masculinity and are upset that they fit the predictable pattern thats been identified by the software.

[Anonymous No.15476256]

>>15475483
Its better than a coin flip, which means that it is a useful predictor.

[Anonymous No.15476437]

Sweeeeet, now we can identify libturds and pwn them automatically, with science!

[Anonymous No.15476504]

>>15470261
What? It's the other way around. Policy based on feelings is the right wing policy. The way in which the AI can tell your leaning is because it can tell if you're scared, angry, or the usual feelings that right wing policy depends on. Don't believe me? Well a caravan of 20k migrants just walked by here; they will be arriving to the USA in like 3 days. Now use what you're feeling right now to vote for the guy that promises to do anything to stop the caravans. Welcome to right wing "policy", and don't forget to call any nuanced thought leftist.

[Anonymous No.15476533]

>>15476504
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15476540]

>>15476504
Logic: Don't let the caravan in, we've got enough problems with demographics, poors and crime as is.
Feelings: Let them in, we have a duty to take care of all poor brown people in the world

[Anonymous No.15476564]

left is literally a /pol/cel from far right party. Right is a marxist history phd

[Anonymous No.15476570]

>>15470479
>there are only two political sides
>one is /pol/
>the other is sjw jewish globohomo satan tranny pedo marxist feminazi

[Anonymous No.15476571]

>>15476540
Wrong. Logic:
>We need to follow the law and let them in to request asylum, and then evaluate their cases on an individual basis.
>We need to study the phenomenon to know the root causes, and use that intel to improve the circumstances in South American countries and build a better world.
Feelings:
>Don't let the caravan in, we've got enough problems with demographics, poors and crime as is. [Fear]
>poor brown people [Anger]
One of those two ways of operating is fit for the small minds, because they can't understand the nuances of the other one. This is why people who vote republican are dumber.

[Anonymous No.15476574]

>>15476571
>>We need to follow the law and let them in to request asylum, and then evaluate their cases on an individual basis.
>>We need to study the phenomenon to know the root causes, and use that intel to improve the circumstances in South American countries and build a better world.
Narcissistic savior complexes are indicative of an emotional disorder.

[Anonymous No.15476576]

>>15476571
>We need to follow the law and let them in to request asylum, and then evaluate their cases on an individual basis.
>We need to study the phenomenon to know the root causes, and use that intel to improve the circumstances in South American countries and build a better world.
Neither of these are logical, it's just white savior complex

And you're wrong about my statements being fearful or angry, they're simply basic observations that every action leads to a reaction.
The more poor brown migrants you allow in your country, the more poor brown migrants you will have.

[Anonymous No.15476609]

>>15476576
>implying that it is possible to prevent illegal immigration
>>15476574
>following the written procedure is "narcissistic and a savior complex"
You became so logical that you're above the law, cool. Vote for DeSantis then. Next cycle another caravan will come, another politician will use it to stoke your feelings, another promise will be made, we will discover that trying the same thing for the 18th time still didn't solve the problem, and the cycle of feelings-based voting repeats. Meanwhile, AI is capable of telling that you're right wing because of the fearful/angry look in your face, and you're gonna be proud of that because that's manly. And now repeat: "I am free"

[Anonymous No.15476719]

>>15476609
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15477098]

>>15470249

[Anonymous No.15477322]

>>15476540
>Feelings: Let them in, we have a duty to take care of all poor brown people in the world
I have never experienced that emotion.
If foreign countries are so shitty then they need more ppl to help unfuck it, its greedy of America to take all the doctors and engineers from Mexico

[Anonymous No.15478204]

>>15476574
>Narcissistic savior complexes are indicative of an emotional disorder.
it is an emotional disorder.

[Anonymous No.15478223]

>>15470249
>tfw terminal gay face but hate lefties
Its over...

[Anonymous No.15478383]

>>15470460
Can't believe I had to scroll this far to see the right answer. Also, it seems that the AI was looking at facial expressions, so literally just smiling would change the results.

[Anonymous No.15478461]

lol at all sissified leftists getting butthurt over this science

[Anonymous No.15478990]

>>15475483
>upset that they fit the predictable pattern thats been identified by the software.
nooooooo!! I'm a unique special snowflake, i can't fall into predictable stereotype categories!!
thats not fair!!!!

[Anonymous No.15479001]

>>15470249
This is absurd as lots of soilooking fuckers are on both sides of the spectrum

[Anonymous No.15479006]

>>15476571
Your entire reasoning is based on emotional stupid altruism

[Anonymous No.15479021]

>>15472403
kek holy shit they didn't reply to this. leftists BTFO forever

[Anonymous No.15480027]

>>15479021
They ignored it because of the emotional cost of acknowledging it

[Anonymous No.15480777]

>>15470249
>the ugliest and most deformed looking ppl are all leftists
not even slightly surprising that ideas like communism appeal to ppl who are uncompetitive on their own.

[Anonymous No.15481424]

>>15470274
He's a right-wing sandnigger, that's why he's against whites, that's also why he never comments on turks killing other races.

[Anonymous No.15482001]

>>15481424

[Anonymous No.15482741]

>>15470249
wimps love the idea of bg government protecting and caring for them because they know that they can't do that themselves

[Anonymous No.15483243]

>>15482001
i like the meme but the colours for the chart on the right are wrong, they ought to use green for purely White and then have it shift to red for non White areas.

[Anonymous No.15483254]

>>15470249
>61%
>barely better than random guessing
shiggy diggy

[Anonymous No.15483276]

>>15476570
Unironically true.

[Anonymous No.15483633]

>>15483276
its not the case
/pol/ is flooded with sjws, they make the overwhelming majority of the content there

[Anonymous No.15483636]

>>15470249
>dood I can read le minds!!!
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15484571]

>>15483636
butthurt

[Anonymous No.15485345]

>>15475252

[Anonymous No.15485364]

>>15470249
>61%
meh

[Anonymous No.15486712]

>>15485364
>t.

[Anonymous No.15487687]

>>15475252
ppl focus on intellectualism as a means of ignoring the painful realities of the physical world

[Anonymous No.15488808]

>>15487687
yes, thats as common as can be, the ugly nerd bookworm is an old stereotype

[Anonymous No.15488866]

/pol/ is always years ahead of the science

[Anonymous No.15489002]

[Anonymous No.15489805]

>ugly losers scientifically proven to be soience leftists
hahaha oh wow

[Anonymous No.15490631]

>>15483243
what about white for whites and brown for nonwhites? that makes more sense to me than red and green

[Anonymous No.15490928]

If you're attractive and good looking and happy you are usually rich and that correlates with being right wing.
It makes sense that leftists are more ugly. But this also means leftists will always exist because there's always someone more ugly and therefore leftist

[Anonymous No.15491826]

>>15490631
yeah, that would be a lot better

[Anonymous No.15491831]

>>15490928
>But this also means leftists will always exist because there's always someone more ugly and therefore leftist
This is called bioleninism.

[Anonymous No.15492455]

>>15490928
trust fund babies tend to be leftists because they feel guilty over being rich without having done anything to earn it and they don't understand why everyone can't have it as good as they do.
but if you're rich because you earned it then you tend to be right leaning

[Anonymous No.15492473]

>>15470249
Alternatively you can tell what someone's political outlook is 100% of the time is when they open their mouth and tell you, since anyone who identifies with any political spectrum is an obnoxious sub-negroid IQ retard who can't shut the fuck up about it, politics is for retards, politicians are retards, I hope you all meet a swift end in the near future.

[Anonymous No.15493672]

>>15470249
>nerds and faggots look like nerds and faggots
>I need a computer to tell me this
why.jpg

[Anonymous No.15494532]

>>15492455
this is common, rich kids remaining childish and immature well into their adult years because daddy pays all their bills for them and they don't need to ever ponder their future or make serious decisions for themselves. you can find zoos full of people like this in any university

[Anonymous No.15495386]

>>15486712
Image of the common male feminist

[Anonymous No.15495401]

>>15470249
Pretty easy, the closer you look like a black woman, the more leftwing you are. The more you look like a white man, the more rightwing you are

[Anonymous No.15496119]

>>15495401
lots of black women are fairly conservative outside of their desire for infinite gibes and their racial hatred of whites. you never see them involved with environmentalism and similar kinds of messiah garbage thats so common amongst white liberals

[Anonymous No.15497338]

>>15470261
>Find me a masculine looking leftoid or liberal.

[Anonymous No.15498239]

>>15472403
Leftism confirmed for low-T

[Anonymous No.15498341]

>>15470249
And people wasted resources to state the obvious? We already knew all of this, you don't need deep learning.

[Anonymous No.15498721]

>>15498341
its psychology, did you see the thread about how psychology recently "discovered" that undesirable low-T men pretend to be feminists as a means of trying to get pussy? most science is completely idiotic, if it weren't then we'd be seeing real progress at breakneck speed given the amount of scientific publishing thats done. instead we see pretty much no progress, so thats proof right there that science is nearly 100% worthless

[Anonymous No.15499244]

>>15470249
Prey eyes = Leftard
Hunter eyes = Chud
This really isn't the least bit impressive.

[Anonymous No.15499798]

>>15499244
Teaching software how to differentiate was probably a bit of a chore

[Anonymous No.15500451]

>>15498239

[Anonymous No.15501697]

>>15471605
thats fairly common

[Anonymous No.15502224]

>>15489805
its funny how memes knew about this 50 years ago and science has only now gotten around to discovering the truth

[Anonymous No.15503341]

>>15500451
Ted had the university leftists crowd absolutely pegged, too bad he wasn't able to make a substantial dent in the problem

[Anonymous No.15503345]

>>15503341
he covered why though, it doesn't matter how you refute them because there's no reason behind their actions to begin with. the answer is simply violence.

[Anonymous No.15503375]

>>15503345
they are just thralls

[Anonymous No.15503404]

This is completely useless on non white people

[Anonymous No.15504173]

Itt: faggots who have never touched grass or talked to people attempting to explain why le leftism ugly bad and le right wing good and chad!!1!1

Chuds are turning into the new libtards (tm)

[Anonymous No.15504175]

>>15504173
Le horseshoe theory is real!!! Sargon was right!!!

[Anonymous No.15504187]

>>15475483
Except that the article literally says

>Analysis of the facial characteristics that were crucial in making decisions about ideology revealed that masculinity and attractiveness were not linked to ideology in males

[Anonymous No.15505130]

>>15503404
>oh no, someone in denmark produced social science that focuses on whites
>thats racist!!!

[Anonymous No.15506167]

>>15503404
Well that's fine, non-whites are way less diverse in their politics. Here's the guide:
>Black/Arab
Woke, but also hate faggots (secretly take it in the butt though)
>Asian male
Generally conservative but anti-white
>Asian female
Woke
>Hispanic
Conservative but votes democrat because they're illegal

[Anonymous No.15506619]

>>15505130
every country has to be diverse, that way they'll all be the same

[Anonymous No.15506624]

>politicians
this just exposes voter biases

[Anonymous No.15506793]

>>15473842
Unequivocally the ugliest group of people I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.15506945]

>>15506793
i have seen worse antifa scum

[Anonymous No.15508110]

>>15506945
beat this

[Anonymous No.15508181]

>>15506945
that dude 2nd row, 2nd from right is a legend. is he very tightly conjoined twins?