/sci/ bros... I don't feel so good...

[Anonymous No.15470149]

"The founding of a science more or less on the notion of repetition brings in its train yet another delusion of a quantitative kind, the delusion that consists in thinking that the accumulation of a large number of facts can be of use by itself as ‘proof' of a theory; nevertheless, even a little reflection will make it evident that facts of the same kind are always indefinite in multitude, so that they can never all be taken into account, quite apart from the consideration that the same facts usually fit several different theories equally well. It will be said that the establishment of a greater number of facts does at least give more ‘probability' to a theory; but to say so is to admit that no certitude can be arrived at in that way, and that therefore the conclusions promulgated have nothing ‘exact' about them; it is also an admission of the wholly ‘empirical' character of modern science, although, by a strange irony, its partisans are pleased to accuse of ‘empiricism' the knowledge of the ancients, whereas exactly the opposite is the truth: for this ancient knowledge, of the true nature of which they have no idea whatever, started from principles and not from experimental observations, so that it can truly be said that profane science is built up exactly the opposite way round to traditional science."

"[Modern scientific] theories can necessarily never be more than hypothetical, since their starting-point is wholly empirical, for facts in themselves are always susceptible of diverse explanations and so never have been and never will be able to guarantee the truth of any theory."

"The profane sciences of which the modern world is so proud are really and truly only the degenerate ‘residues’ of the ancient traditional sciences."

[Anonymous No.15470189]

>>15470149
>ancient traditional sciences
Give example
>started from principles and not from experimental observations
These aren’t oppositional and seems to be the basis of his whole argument. Experimental observations rely on principles and principles originate from observation

[Anonymous No.15470201]

>>15470149
>retarded philosotard hates science since it debunks his delusions
Nothing new here

[Anonymous No.15470204]

>>15470201
explain how it debunks

[Anonymous No.15470208]

>>15470149
Am I supposed to recognize this soi boi? The quotes are just generic reddit neckbeard pseud talk.

[Anonymous No.15470210]

>>15470208
If you were able to recognize his face, then it would mean you spend too much time on 4chan.
So not recognizing him is actually a good thing, as far as your mental sanity goes.

[Anonymous No.15470255]

>>15470149
Holy based... pbuh! Hylics won't like this one.

[Anonymous No.15470259]

>>15470201
/thread

[Anonymous No.15470266]

>>15470208
He's a french faggot that loves indians and arabs too much

[Anonymous No.15470269]

>>15470266
Oh, it's this esoteric retard from /lit/. I knew I've seen him before. So I was right, he is a soiboi. Indian mythology was the funko pop collectable of the 19th century.

[Anonymous No.15470270]

>>15470201
>>15470259
>samefagging

[Anonymous No.15470275]

>Science is most significant as one of the greatest spiritual adventures that man has yet known.

[Anonymous No.15470278]

>>15470149
>Blabla science is not reality
It works reasonably well enough for giving you the technology to share that opinion. What has non-science contributed?

[Anonymous No.15470282]

>it's another episode of philosoplebs failing to understand science
*sigh*

[Anonymous No.15470287]

>>15470149
fun fact: 80% of people who read guenon don't know what sin(120) equals or don't know the quadratic formula

[Anonymous No.15470295]

>>15470282
>Since we can never know anything for sure, it is simply not worth searching for certainty; but it is well worth searching for truth; and we do this chiefly by searching for mistakes, so that we have to correct them. — Karl Popper

[Anonymous No.15470298]

>>15470295
>boring trivial platitudes
Yeah, that's the best philosoplebs have to offer.

[Anonymous No.15470320]

>>15470149
>scientific community == scientific method
as expected of a retard that shilled bootlicking

[Anonymous No.15470323]

>>15470298
It's a broader issue. We live in the age of criticizing/deconstructing everyone and everything instead of building something tangible/non-abstract.

[Anonymous No.15470324]

>>15470323
>instead of
what do you mean "instead of"? "instead of" based on what?

[Anonymous No.15470326]

Atheists try to cope that their religion is nihilism with 2 ways.

The first one is ''traditionalism'', ie ''everyday I want a bureaucratic daddy to tell me what do to in his fascist republic while I am pretending to be wicca witch doing magikkk in my sparetime like Evola and Guenon''.
Second, with the atheist called Nietzsche and his retarded idea to create and fight for your own values. You have to understand that Nietzsche is an atheist, a nihilist, a postmodernist which appeals to a lot of liberals and other deeply neurotic teenagers because Nietzsche is the achievement of the secular humanism which booted Christianity out of power. Nietzsche is overtly anti-christian, and it permits to all the atheist bug men to actually see themselves as the righteous resilient guy who create his own values.
In effect trannies are the best ubermen ever: they hate to see themselves as they really are, so they change both their neurotic spirit and also their body to match the narrative of the ubermen and even better, they impose their values to non-trannies. Same thing with feminists and all the idolized minorities in Humanism.

Naturally, the atheists cant know right from wrong, so their mental gymnastics about the uberman is flawed. The uberman is actually the last man: the uberman despises so much reality after seeing nihilism, that out of resentment for reality, the uberman CHOOSES to sink further in his delusion by building a narrative where he is not the last man, but actually the opposite, ie the uberman who creates his own values, ie cooming by living in own brain farts until he dies.

[Anonymous No.15470332]

>>15470326

Oh and by the way only atheists take him seriously in the first place. Atheists love him because according to them, he found a way to be nihilistic without leading to suicide. In order to avoid being called a nihilist, friedrich PUSSY nietzsche re-defined nihilism to be 'not living in the present moment', which applies to christianity.
So now atheists dont say they are nihilistic, they say they are vitalist. And as a bonus they get to shit on christianity (their perpetual enemy that they defeated centuries ago, yet they still beat a dead horse to smugly fill up their days). You have to understand that atheists are braindead hypocrites so even when they say they are vitalist instead of nihilistic, they still remain 100% hedonistic and they still dont know what not do with their lives beyond making up self-aggrandizing narratives to feel justified for wanting to and actually doing coomming all day long.


Whoever takes Nietzsche or Evola or Geunon seriously is completely lobotomized by atheism.

[Anonymous No.15470333]

>>15470326
>Nietzsche is an atheist, a nihilist
t. didn't actually read nacho

[Anonymous No.15470334]

>>15470266
>>15470208
Evola is Mysticism lite for people who can't read, Guenon is a Catholic who abandoned his faith for Sufism when he realized the Vatican was a lost cause. Both of them made shit up and basically shilled for political views: Gueon was a Theocratic Monarchist and Evola was a Fascist Neo-Feudalist.

Much like Blavatsky, who was a Theocratic Socialist, and Crowley who was a hedonistic anarchist, they knew quite a deal, spent a good amount of time with primary sources and distilled existing ideas into their own understanding.

I'm going to get a response saying that Crowley and Blavatsky were frauds, but abandoning your faith for Islam, and being a Magical Tantric renegade Fascist ostracized by your own tradition is pretty much the same as saying you're giving birth to the Anti-Christ or in contact with magicians from India. If we view all 4 of them for their works alone, ignoring the personal problems and insanity, they were all quite well spoken, did good work, and had a strong grasp on some of the material they talked about. Blavatsky was intimately familiar with Gnosticism, Vedanta, Hermeticism and Tibetan Buddhism (in fact this has been confirmed by 20th century Tibetan Buddhists, she very clearly did meet Dzogchen and Mahayana adepts). Crowley had a good grasp on Taoism, an incredible understanding of Kabbalah/Qabbala, Tarot, Numerology, Alchemy and other mystical currents. Guenon was an excellent metaphysician echoing the Geometric-Mathematical metaphysics of Volume 1 of Blavatsky's secret doctrine, a sign that he did indeed understand the perrenial wisdom, or the Secret Doctrine as she called it. It seems that Evola had a good grasp on Vedanta, though inserting his own views as well, strong grasp on Tantra, and a strong grasp of initiation and its relationship with esotericism. Actually taking anything the four of them said on faith is extremely stupid.

[Anonymous No.15470335]

>>15470333

Read what they read, and come to your own conclusions. Modern spirituality is marred by a few things: the existence of Christian culture and theologians; Atheism and rationalism in academia; Anglos translating Eastern ideas improperly; Jews suppressing ideas; Fascists polluting Eastern and Western Esotericism with anachronistic nonsense racial science and racial teleology; Metaphysics as a talent dying off with the 19th century. It is absolutely best to go to the texts themselves while using these people as biased encyclopedias and as foils to your own understanding. I agree with Evola's Kali Yuga, Crowley's Age of Horus, Blavatsky's universal brotherhood and cosmogenesis and Guenon's ideas about the degeneration of spiritual principles. I reject most of the rest of what they say. Doing that has helped me considerably in my studies.

They all had bad things to say about each other too in the end.

[Anonymous No.15470343]

>>15470324
I don't subscribe to moral relativism. Constructing > deconstructing is a self-evident hierarchy of values without needing philosophy or religion to base that hierarchy on.

[Anonymous No.15470346]

>>15470334
>Crowley and Blavatsky were frauds
more like a gay psychotic retard and an easily impressionable woman that failed to grasp the meanings of her fascinations, t.b.h.

[Anonymous No.15470348]

>>15470343
>Constructing > deconstructing is a self-evident hierarchy of values
based enjoyer of cancer and pests

[Anonymous No.15470354]

>>15470326
>>15470332
>>15470334
>>15470335
>pasting shit from the /lit/ archives
boring

[Anonymous No.15470355]

>>15470326
>>15470332
Typical christcuck reasoning. You don't account for the Zen buddhist kind of view: everything is fake and gay so I'm just going to chop wood and carry water so that I don't cause suffering for myself and others with attachments to particular views of reality.

[Anonymous No.15470362]

>>15470348
Retarded reasoning: cancer is not a constructive but an exploitative way of life.

[Anonymous No.15470371]

>>15470362
>cancer is not a constructive but an exploitative
4U
all construction comes from exploitation lmoa

[Anonymous No.15470376]

>>15470287
As usual, people on 4chan trying to gatekeep something by drawing a line using isolated, basic facts about a subject that can easily be googled

[Anonymous No.15470379]

>>15470270
Sorry, anon. Please play again

[Anonymous No.15470383]

>>15470371
Still retarded: mutual exploitation = symbiosis = bacteria in your intestines digesting food = life.

[Anonymous No.15470393]

>>15470149
>guenon
refuted by crowley (pbuh)

[Anonymous No.15470526]

>>15470287
Fun fact: Guenon actually studies mathematics in college

[Anonymous No.15471636]

>>15470282
enjoy your profane sciences, hylic
real /sci/ chads like myself know that science and philosophy/metaphysics cannot be separated

[Anonymous No.15471699]

>>15470287
fun fact: Geunon demonstrated the highest and most fundamental axioms which both prove and ground mathematics as an entire discipline.

[bodhi No.15471703]

>>15470334
Blavatsky was no fraud, Crowley was just a hedonist hack. Evola and Guenon were adequate.

[bodhi No.15471708]

>>15470332
>Evola or Geunon seriously is completely lobotomized by atheism.
>atheism
Your post was kind of interesting and entertaining until you went full retard at the end. Why would an atheist be interested in Guenon or Evola in your delusional rant?

[Anonymous No.15473785]

We've been refuted folks

[Anonymous No.15473797]

>>15471636
>real /sci/ chads like myself know that science and philosophy/metaphysics cannot be separated
This is trivial. But only scientists are qualified to talk about philosophy. You need to know at least quantum mechanics, relativity, information theory, computability theory, formal logic etc etc if you want to talk meaningfully about metaphysics. Worshipping some 19th century armchair meme philosopher is the intellectual equivalent to sticking your dick into another man's jizzed up fleshlight and claiming it was equivalent to having sex.

[Anonymous No.15473856]

>>15470255
>>>/x/