/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15460073]

LOOP edition

Previous: >>15457758

[Anonymous No.15460079]

First Korean launch this year is net for tomorrow morning

[Anonymous No.15460081]

>>15460079
Gambatte

[Anonymous No.15460086]

TED (total earther death)

[Anonymous No.15460089]

How do you rate the x 15?

[Anonymous No.15460090]

First for total US LEO domination

[Anonymous No.15460093]

I had another Dream Chaser dream.

[Anonymous No.15460096]

>>15460086
ERROR: Your DSN account has been banned for hatespeech. Continuous violation of FCC accord may result in authorization of deadly railgun force

[Anonymous No.15460102]

>>15460073

[Anonymous No.15460104]

>>15460090
Where is Gravitics or ThinkOrbital?

[Anonymous No.15460105]

>>15460102
kek

[Anonymous No.15460108]

>>15460104
There are no concrete plans for their own stations, atm they are just building modules but the ones in that list have funding/concrete plans. I think Gravitics will build something though

[Anonymous No.15460113]

>>15460093
Had the dream I domed someone with my ar10 outside my house again. quintessentially american

[Anonymous No.15460114]

I wonder if all these newspace companies like, axiom, gravitics, vast, thinkorbital could build some integrated abomination of a station with random bits and pieces just thrown together, a bit like ISS but completely private

[Anonymous No.15460115]

https://youtu.be/YSTZS1RV47U
Progress docking

[Anonymous No.15460117]

>>15460114

[Anonymous No.15460123]

I just want to clarify a few leftovers from the previous thread.
1. A cold gas thruster expels gases just through pressure. What the one anon was describing is closer to thermoelectric propulsion, where a heating coil is used to impart energy to the propellant before ejecting it.
2. "Why don't we just burn methane without an oxidizer?" Methane always needs oxygen to burn. It'll burn at ground level on Earth because there's oxygen in the atmosphere, but that won't work in space. And even on Earth, the amount of oxygen in the air isn't nearly enough for the amount of methane we need to burn, so we're still stuck bringing our own oxygen to the party.

[Anonymous No.15460126]

>>15460073
>>15460102

[Anonymous No.15460127]

Buonasera /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15460132]

>>15460126
orbital fulfilment centers

[Anonymous No.15460133]

>>15460132
"A New Life awaits you in the off world fulfillment centers!"

[Anonymous No.15460146]

Vast will succeed in becoming the SpaceX of space stations

[Anonymous No.15460150]

>meanwhile in the /sfg/ station...

[Anonymous No.15460151]

>>15460133
wagies
in
spaaaaaace

[Anonymous No.15460152]

>>15460090
>>15460146
I like how the Haven-1 is the most believable of those space stations as it's just a tube with solar panels stuck on the side that all fits on top of a Falcon 9.

[Anonymous No.15460153]

>>15460150
who blocked the shitter again

[Anonymous No.15460154]

>>15460151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6yPP0yu9I

[Anonymous No.15460158]

>>15460146
I'll believe it when I see some hardware

[Anonymous No.15460161]

>>15460150
gay sex in space

[Anonymous No.15460162]

>>15460158
it's already built lol

[Anonymous No.15460165]

>>15460162
cool, may I see it?

[Anonymous No.15460167]

>>15460152
This is an unacceptable design. How are we supposed to funnel development money for corporate welfare if everything is simple and easy to make? I suggest we switch over to a Shuttle-derived plan. The parts are well understood after decades of proven safe operation, already in production in all 50 states, and can pay for more jobs in our representative areas. I already have the Senate bill drafted.

[Anonymous No.15460168]

>>15460161
bro what if we kissed in the coupla? wouldnt it be so cool to make out while the earth spins under us?

[Anonymous No.15460170]

>>15460168
>coupla
meant cupola

[Anonymous No.15460173]

the first cosmic bumming already happened on apollo 13

[Anonymous No.15460180]

TOTAL OLDSPACE DEATH

[Anonymous No.15460188]

>>15460180
If anything, oldspace would rejoice of the ISS gets trashed. More money for them to make another one.

[Anonymous No.15460190]

one of the first commercial space stations will be used solely for filming porn and yes you can imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.15460194]

>>15460161
Someone say GEX?

[Anonymous No.15460195]

>>15460173
I mean, wouldn't you do it with your crewmate if you thought you were going to die drifting in space far from home?

[Anonymous No.15460201]

>>15460195
is my crew mate sandra bullock?

[Anonymous No.15460203]

>>15460201
No. Its George Clooney.

[Anonymous No.15460207]

>>15460203
then its one small step for man, one giant stretch for clooneys asshole

[Anonymous No.15460208]

>>15460195
no anon, If it's particularly grim I might give a firm handshake though.

[Anonymous No.15460215]

>>15460190
Just depressurize and let raw UV light in and the fuck pods will be showroom fresh again

[Anonymous No.15460239]

>>15460114
You'd be bogged down by committee. A single entity can change the direction of the structure at the speed of thought, where as multiple companies = multiple meetings, thoughts, agreements, etc

The point is to have least friction as possible for building infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.15460245]

>>15460150
gangbanging anon's gf

[Anonymous No.15460265]

Shenzhou getting upgrades. Looks like the new control panel frees up a lot of space.

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1661172016982941702

[Anonymous No.15460268]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/no-one-should-be-surprised-virgin-orbit-failed-it-had-a-terrible-business-plan

RIP Virgin Galactic

[Anonymous No.15460271]

>>15460265
Whats the old one like for comparison?

[Anonymous No.15460273]

Remember that guy from last thread who didn't know what gravity tractor means and thought it was like a star wars tractor beam?

[Anonymous No.15460274]

>>15460079
About time
>>15460090
As soon as ISS ends something better can replace it. Wonder if any of these commercial space stations have plans to work to gather at least to start out like Axiom and ISS.

[Anonymous No.15460276]

>>15460268
previous thread had a few articles about this already (foust and sheetz)
they didn't really have opinion pieces like this article does though

> No, the problem was Virgin Orbit's management, including Chief Executive Officer Dan Hart and its founder, Sir Richard Branson. Due to their leadership, the company had a terrible, unsupportable business plan and compounded those issues by hiring an unsustainable workforce of 700 people.

> This business ran fairly lean until Virgin Orbit was separated from its parent company in 2017, and Branson hired Hart, who had spent decades as a system engineer at Boeing’s Space division as its president. Hart instituted a more cautious approach and began staffing up the company. A planned first launch in 2018 was delayed by more than two years.

> When LauncherOne finally took flight for the first time in May 2020, the company had spent a staggering amount of money, nearly $1 billion, developing the rocket and air-launch system. It was clear at the time that Virgin Orbit was never going to make that money back by charging $12 million to $15 million to launch a few hundred kilograms per mission.

holy fucking shit, SpaceX has used like 3 bil on Starship

> There clearly was no market for this, and even reaching such a cadence would have required several years. Rocket Lab, which has a proven, similarly sized vehicle in Electron, is only seeing a demand for about a dozen flights per year to dedicated orbits. SpaceX, with its Transporter rideshare missions, was also eating into Virgin Orbit's market. The business case simply did not close.

[Anonymous No.15460277]

>>15460268
could some inform our government who shovelled millions into the spaceport with only one untested launcher

[Anonymous No.15460281]

>This business ran fairly lean until Virgin Orbit was separated from its parent company in 2017, and Branson hired Hart, who had spent decades as a system engineer at Boeing’s Space division as its president
there it is

[Anonymous No.15460282]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/internet-from-a-small-satellite-in-geostationary-orbit-sure-why-not/

[Anonymous No.15460286]

>>15460281
lmao

[Anonymous No.15460288]

https://spacenews.com/japans-gitai-raises-29-million-for-space-robotics-business/

> GITAI founder and CEO Sho Nakanose said the funds would support efforts to develop a lunar rover and a two-meter-long Inchworm robotic arm.
> In a simulated lunar environment near the western edge of the Mojave Desert in California, the venture said it used two rovers and two Inchworms in March to emulate tasks needed to build a base on the moon and explore its surface.
> The demonstrations included excavation, solar panel and antenna installation, welding, towing an inflatable module, and changing one of the rover’s tires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-hEH0dLMhI

[Anonymous No.15460289]

>>15460281
Why is boing management so shitty?

[Anonymous No.15460291]

>>15460271
There's hardly any interior shots that aren't looking down through the hatch, but here's an old one from Shenzhou 5.

[Anonymous No.15460294]

>>15460282
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/24/astranis-first-internet-satellite-over-alaska-working-perfectly.html

> Astranis’ is one of a number of next generation broadband satellite systems in development, as companies race to meet a growing global demand for data – including SpaceX’s Starlink, British-owned OneWeb, Amazon’s Project Kuiper, AST SpaceMobile and others.

> But the company’s approach is the “third way” to providing broadband service from space, Gedmark explained. The company’s dishwasher-sized satellite combines the small form factor of satellites like SpaceX’s Starlink in low Earth orbit with the distant, geosynchronous orbit of traditional players like Viasat
.
> Arcturus is a fraction of the size and cost of traditional GEO satellites.

> “We can build these satellites very quickly compared to what has come before,” Gedmark said.

[Anonymous No.15460295]

>>15460286
>Hart instituted a more cautious approach and began staffing up the company. A planned first launch in 2018 was delayed by more than two years.
>It also seemed fairly obvious that, with the large workforce Hart hired, Virgin Orbit was not going to break even. The company's human resources bill alone was likely about $150 million per year, and that did not include facilities, leases, equipment, and hardware costs.
lol even

[Anonymous No.15460302]

>>15460295
>a more cautious approach
GRADATIM FEROCITER

[Anonymous No.15460304]

>>15460282
The article asks "why not" to which the answer seems obvious, geostationary internet satellites are nothing new, and they are late to the game. A better question would be how can this company beat the competition. Maybe their small size makes them more agile than the big players in Geo but I don't see how they would compete with starlink especially since they are relying on SpaceX for launch services. My only guess is they are angling for some government grant that SpaceX was passed over for due to politics.

[Anonymous No.15460305]

>>15460152
The main problem though is that most of the life support systems is handled by the dragon docked to it. So is it even reusable?

[Anonymous No.15460309]

>>15460295
>Tries to be oldspace without the government pork
Yeah that went as expected.

[Anonymous No.15460310]

>>15460302
I wouldn't say hiring fuckloads of people and blowing through 1bil is really cautious
sounds like wasting of money without actual results, blowing stuff up during testing is probably way, way cheaper like spacex shows
space grade 100x the cost vs just conventional off the shelf shit

[Anonymous No.15460312]

>>15460304
this article >>15460294 mentioned that the customers are going to be businesses and schools and stuff like that, but even then i don't really see how they can compete when starlinks constellation gets filled out

[Anonymous No.15460319]

>>15460291
Thats more advanced/modern than Space Shuttle was, but vastly less advanced than the Crew Dragon. >>15460265 the newest streamlined is still less advanced than Crew Dragon, but I suppose they're ~10 years behind now instead of ~20-30 years behind.

[Anonymous No.15460322]

>>15460268
Reminder

[Anonymous No.15460326]

Based, everything Branson must burn

[Anonymous No.15460330]

So was NASA fucked in the head thinking a 100% O2 environment would be safe?

[Anonymous No.15460331]

>>15460268
Virgin Galactic is separate from Virgin Orbit. Virgin Galactic still exists.

[Anonymous No.15460343]

>>15460331
>Virgin Galactic still exists
For how long?

[Anonymous No.15460349]

>>15460343
Two weeks

[Anonymous No.15460350]

>>15460343
they still have that fuckhuge plane? build a cargo pod and do what the anotov did before the russians bombed it.

[Anonymous No.15460351]

> Pluto is ranked with real planets on the Pioneer plaque
How do we fix this?

[Anonymous No.15460355]

>>15460351
ayys will have a very problematic and racist view of human kind, i suggest a multi trillion dollar program to go and replace the plaque with something more in keeping with the third decade of the 21st century

[Anonymous No.15460356]

>>15460312
Maybe their internet is slower, but cheaper?

[Anonymous No.15460360]

>>15460165
see what

[Anonymous No.15460364]

>>15460360
the hardware. Where is it? I've seen the renders, where is the hardware.

[Anonymous No.15460371]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKsd3WVNRAY

[Anonymous No.15460373]

>>15460326
Branson cashed out and made big money

[Anonymous No.15460374]

>>15460073
As a euro who hates the frogs and italian jews for eating up most of ESA's budget in return for subpar rockets i really wonder how they think to get that thing off the ground?

[Anonymous No.15460376]

>>15460295
If he had Bezos money he would have survived. Blue origin survived off of Bezos pocket money

[Anonymous No.15460377]

>>15460356
possible I guess
its also extra redundancy if starlink goes down for one reason or another

[Anonymous No.15460379]

>>15460371
I'm GOOOOZING

[Anonymous No.15460384]

>>15460376
Because bezos wants it to be his legacy, he wants in 50 years when he is dead to have people talk about him as the "rocketman" or some shit, not the hyperjew who put his workers in cuckcages for minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.15460386]

>>15460371

[Anonymous No.15460387]

>>15460364
You've seen the renders. We're building the powerpoint. We have all the CAD models done, ready to be 3d-printed

[Anonymous No.15460388]

[Anonymous No.15460391]

>>15460388
>a mexican will have to roller paint the olm after every launch
>this will be the bottleneck to interplanetary colonisation

[Anonymous No.15460392]

>>15460384
>spend a bunch of money to avoid spending more money on paying higher wages
Peak retardation.

[Anonymous No.15460408]

these gridfins are pretty big

[Anonymous No.15460409]

>>15460391
You just know CSS actually believes this

[Anonymous No.15460412]

"responsive space" "dedicated orbits" company dies.
many such cases.

[Anonymous No.15460428]

>>15460388
expendable launchpads

[Anonymous No.15460429]

>>15460428
Expendable mexicans

[Anonymous No.15460431]

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1661408837105008642

[Anonymous No.15460432]

>>15460428
expendable planets

[Anonymous No.15460436]

>>15460431
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661441658473570304

replying to the erryday post

[Anonymous No.15460437]

>>15460431
csi starbase is better

[Anonymous No.15460439]

>>15460431
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661441768611799040

[Anonymous No.15460449]

>>15460436
>Payload of 250-300 tons to LEO
The entire industry absolutely MOGGED lmao, it was that easy in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15460451]

>>15460449
>250-300 tons to LEO
when he says that that means it's 200 marginally

[Anonymous No.15460453]

>>15460431
Emoji rights should be taken away from anyone 30 or older

[Anonymous No.15460456]

>>15460453
pickle rick

[Anonymous No.15460458]

>>15460079
Also the first "real" korean launch, no dummy this time

[Anonymous No.15460459]

>>15460456
gb

[Anonymous No.15460460]

>>15460449
That was already known. But the bigger threat is the 150+ ton in RAPID reusable mode. Imagine 150+ ton every week, every day, every few hours.

[Anonymous No.15460465]

>>15460460
I miss the ITS, imagine 500-600 tons in expendable mode.

[Anonymous No.15460468]

>>15460465
18m ss by 2040

[Anonymous No.15460469]

>>15460453

[Anonymous No.15460474]

>>15460468
Nah, Musk is a cuck and he backtracked that. He prefers smaller ships. I can't find the tweet where he said that in hindsight they should've gone with less than 9m. At least it's big enough that they can follow it with orbital construction.

[Anonymous No.15460475]

>>15460474
its not about preference, but iteration and build speed
musk cares about speed

[Anonymous No.15460476]

Reminder that 18m Starship would be 240m tall.
They would preserve the fineness ratio.

[Anonymous No.15460478]

>>15460436
THREE. FUCKING. HUNDRED. TONS. Just wait until later years where they start to cut down on unnecessary equipment, we could probably get to 250 tons reusable and 400 tons expendable, but thats a few decades down the line (or on any other astral body but Erf)

[Anonymous No.15460480]

>>15460474
as the biggest technical challenges atm are getting raptors to work as reliably as merlins and stopping the planet disintegrating around the exhaust plume an 18m variant seems plausible in the medium term.

[Anonymous No.15460483]

>>15460073
another shitty computer generated image.

[Anonymous No.15460486]

>>15460483
Kys faggot

[Anonymous No.15460487]

[Anonymous No.15460489]

>>15460476
>thrust scales with the square of radius
>wet mass scales with the square of radius
yeah no it would be chodeship.

[Anonymous No.15460490]

>>15460460
>Imagine 150+ ton every week, every day, every few hours.
Now imagine somewhere that will put up with that yuuuge noise pollution every week, every day, every few hours.

[Anonymous No.15460492]

>>15460486

[Anonymous No.15460495]

>>15460490
back to sea launching or building a launch complex on an atoll

[Anonymous No.15460496]

>>15460486
he's right though
too many renders
not enough hardware

[Anonymous No.15460498]

>>15460490
At least the property near the starbase will be affordable to the average American in a couple of years.

[Anonymous No.15460504]

>>15460495
>sea launching
Good fucking luck getting a launch license for that lmao, thousands of man-hours would have to be spent so that specialized marine biologists can measure all kind of disturbance to the poor fisherinos.

[Anonymous No.15460507]

Wasn’t there news about ESA wanting to do a resupply vehicle? Can’t find it

[Anonymous No.15460516]

>>15460504
there has to be somewhere on earth so mundane and void of interesting flora and fauna that a multi day launch cadence wouldn't cause the collapse of some eco system

[Anonymous No.15460518]

>crane and megabay parts shipped from LC-39A to Starbase
Remember when people were saying that Starbase would become R&D facility while LC-39A would support commercial and government launches? Now the construction works at the latter had pretty much came to a halt.

[Anonymous No.15460519]

>>15460449
Imagine being able to ship something like a D11 Caterpillar to the Moon.

[Anonymous No.15460525]

>>15460507
resupplying what?

[Anonymous No.15460526]

>>15460392
More like avoid spending money on higher wages so you can spend money on rockets (and yachts).

[Anonymous No.15460527]

>>15460526
Nigger tier behavior

[Anonymous No.15460528]

>>15460526
what rockets?

[Anonymous No.15460540]

Geniunely curious, what does /sfg/ think of Vast? I keep seeing a few people saying they are serious players, but I thought we should wait and see whether they stay on target or not

[Anonymous No.15460541]

>>15460516
Yes, it's called Boca Chica. And even schizo enviros call that place a "pristine and unique" wildlife refuge. Say if for some reason SpaceX were able to move their launch site to the middle of Antarctica, Death Valley, or point Nemo in the fucking Pacific Ocean, there's still would be lots of complaints. There's literally no other place on Earth.

[Anonymous No.15460545]

https://twitter.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1661156741793579009

This is basically Branson gifting Beck a factory
so I guess the venture wasn't completely pointless

[Anonymous No.15460547]

>>15460526
Where are my engines, Jeff?

[Anonymous No.15460548]

>>15460545
>helping any company except SpaceX isnt completely pointless
Do you also think Jarvis will be made and launched?

[Anonymous No.15460552]

>>15460548
maybe, kind of doubt it
but Rocketlab is actually doing shit unlike BO

[Anonymous No.15460556]

>>15460552
Rogget Lab isnt even sending half a ton to LEO with every launch. THEY ARE DOING NOTHING AND BY THE TIME ELECTRON IS OPERATIONAL STARSHIP WILL BE FULLY REUSABLE

[Anonymous No.15460557]

[Anonymous No.15460559]

>>15460556
you mean neutron?

[Anonymous No.15460561]

>>15460540
A single module station with very conservative capabilities that can fit on top of a Falcon 9 is a lot more realistic than any of the other commercial destinations that had been proposed.

[Anonymous No.15460562]

[Anonymous No.15460568]

>>15460540
Do they have anything in orbit yet? If not, they are a meme company.

[Anonymous No.15460572]

[Anonymous No.15460585]

Virgin Orbit wont stream their flight on Thursday, ffs

[Anonymous No.15460586]

>>15460568
>BO is a meme company
NASA just decided to pay BO 3.5 billion. You can be a serious newspace company w/o putting anything in orbit.

[Anonymous No.15460587]

there is nothing complicated about sub 10km diametre space stations, sea going ship building is more complex and the cost/perceivedcomplexity is due to launch ability and mass autism. prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.15460602]

>>15460540
If you’ve been following this sector for the past 5-ish years it should be clear that any company that pops up out of seemingly nowhere and promises great things is, in fact, not going to make it in the long run. The only exception to this I can think of is Axiom… for now

[Anonymous No.15460606]

>>15460585
lol, how nervous are they if they can't even livestream the thing?

[Anonymous No.15460610]

>>15460587
I think that is kind of the point, proving that space stations modules don't have to cost 5 gorillion a piece or whatever retarded sum the modules on ISS got built with

[Anonymous No.15460631]

>>15460610
a modular space station section is a very low pressure pressure vessel with 2 to 3 sealable bulkheads and either shared/semi independent/independent life support systems and lifeboats depending on your risk tolerance. it basically a basic bitch ship compartment that has to undergo none of the stresses an urf ship has to outside of the launch (a thing we currently do with sensitive electronics). the naysayers are the same types decrying first stage landing as impossible 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.15460632]

>>15460586
You got it wrong. BO is not a meme company, they are a grift company like Boing

[Anonymous No.15460658]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661463844131340296

not sure if they are going to talk about space though and its musk interviewing desantis
I guess he could ask about space

[Anonymous No.15460660]

>>15460632
Pretty shit grift then. How much money has Bezos sunk into BO? He'd have more by just investing it.

[Anonymous No.15460663]

>>15460658
>musk interviewing
LMAO
we're gonna have some major spaghetti spillage

[Anonymous No.15460665]

>>15460658
Politicians don't care about space.

[Anonymous No.15460670]

>>15460658
ffs

[Anonymous No.15460672]

>>15460658
Is it actually an interview, I thought he was just hosting DeSantis' presidential thingy.
Anyway I doubt it'll have anything to do with space, the average US citizen doesn't give a fuck about space.

[Anonymous No.15460673]

>>15460658
Where is my starship launch, Elon?

[Anonymous No.15460676]

>>15460672
thats how it was described in yesterdays interview of musk by WSJ
David Sacks is going to be a moderator or something

[Anonymous No.15460679]

>>15460658

[Anonymous No.15460695]

>>15460660
Bob Smith is grifting Bezos as well

[Anonymous No.15460715]

>>15460695
Bob Smith is not a real person.

[Anonymous No.15460743]

>>15460073
>enter the Airbus LOOP attached to the ISS
>mfw it calls me a retard as it loses orbit and descends into the earth

[Anonymous No.15460758]

>>15460715
He was real in my nightmares

[Anonymous No.15460776]

>>15460102
Why do they always stick them on those exercise bikes? That doesn't give you gainz

[Anonymous No.15460783]

Why is Elon getting sidetracked with politics? It seems like none of his moves are even remotely business related when doing these

[Anonymous No.15460786]

>>15460273
For a gravity tractor to work you need a much heavier probe than anything we can put next to an asteroid, and you need highly efficient ion thrusters, better than what we have now. A far better use of craft mass is as a direct impactor.

[Anonymous No.15460789]

>>15460783
its about promoting twitter as a platform

[Anonymous No.15460792]

>>15460351
The plaque never launched. It was just a meme

[Anonymous No.15460802]

>>15460789
Ah no thats actually a really good idea if hes looking to make Twitter not a shit investment

[Anonymous No.15460812]

>>15460802
All his increased shitposting and dumb "controversies" he's talking about on twitter, ever since he bought it was for that purpose. He's monetizing the derangement syndrome.

[Anonymous No.15460831]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661482586424885248

[Anonymous No.15460836]

>>15460831
>Preparing to launch
haha funny, now launch the fucking rocket

[Anonymous No.15460854]

>>15460658
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661482586424885248

[Anonymous No.15460860]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661415447110057984
>Sounds like we may see a Vulcan hotfire on Thursday!
OH NO NO, SpaceXbros, we got too cocky

[Anonymous No.15460870]

>>15460860
nice

[Anonymous No.15460883]

>>15460836
He did

[Anonymous No.15460913]

>>15460860
If BE-4 works as advertised and they can produce them quickly then BO is redeemed in my view.

[Anonymous No.15460914]

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1PlKQpVkwLvxE

[Anonymous No.15460918]

>>15460914
If its not about space I dont care

[Anonymous No.15460919]

>>15460914
>going with an outwardly fascist authoritarian candidate
Cringe

[Anonymous No.15460922]

Shut the fuck up about politics

[Anonymous No.15460927]

>MOOOOOOOOOODS ELON'S BEING BAD AGAIN!
>FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT

[Anonymous No.15460930]

Clean it up jannies

[Anonymous No.15460931]

>>15460195
you have to be fruity to begin with to get a hard on for some other dudes hairy and shitty asshole. That, the cold and the fact they were not russians means that apollo 13 ass pirate incident is a complete myth

[Anonymous No.15460934]

oh God, we're 1 minute in and it's already boomer cringe

[Anonymous No.15460935]

>>15460934
>>15460927
>>>/pol/
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.15460938]

Embarassing lol

[Anonymous No.15460941]

god damn what a shitshow
445k listeners now

[Anonymous No.15460942]

Cant handle 400K people at same time, server overloads

[Anonymous No.15460945]

>Elon is the smartest person alive

[Anonymous No.15460946]

>>15460935
Tesla and Neuralink streams were allowed tho

[Anonymous No.15460947]

>>15460942
>>15460941
>>15460938
Lord he's not gonna shut up is he...
Nobody gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.15460950]

>>15460942
>can't handle a voice livestream
>promises to colonize Mars
lmao even

[Anonymous No.15460956]

>>15460946
They shouldnt have been.

[Anonymous No.15460968]

https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1661497652037697536

Up again.

[Anonymous No.15460971]

>>15460351
>there are only two genders
what were they thinking? aliens will kill us all if they come here and everyone is trans

[Anonymous No.15460985]

>>15460971

[Anonymous No.15461000]

>>15460089
We were robbed / 10

[Anonymous No.15461014]

>>15460556
calm down, muskrat

[Anonymous No.15461018]

>>15461014
He's right about Rocket Lab not being in a good spot, competitively: Electron's success is effectively dependent on Starship's failure, and Electron income is too low to cover the cost of Rocket Labs' operations even without Neutron development on the books.

[Anonymous No.15461026]

>>15461018
rocketlab can probably survive off of their main business. They've also got that hypersonic missile thing coming up. But yeah, small/medium launch might not end up well for them.

[Anonymous No.15461031]

>>15460941
Seeing a lot of cope out of the Trump camp that crashing twitter spaces with 700k people wanting to listen to DeSantis is somehow a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.15461046]

Desantis sounds like Elon if he were a politician. "Get it done", no regulations, lmao

[Anonymous No.15461051]

>>15461031
>>15461046
Is there any candidate in USA that isn't a zionist?

[Anonymous No.15461052]

>>15460631
It’s a moot point until launch costs decrease drastically. If you came up with a design for a 800 thousand dollar space station module that still has to go up on a 67 million dollar falcon 9 you’d get laughed out of every sales pitch you made.

[Anonymous No.15461058]

>>15461051
Its a momentum that has grown over the hundreds of years. Presidential candidates need to cater to all sorts of people in the political line. DeSantis might be another "anti-Establishment" but in a fresh and more rational/coherent way with a straight forward plan. The no-nonsense method is sorta fresh in our politics. Trump tried the anti-Establishment route before, but he didn't have a clear plan and wasn't coherent/rational in his ways, so whatever his plans were, it got derailed.

[Anonymous No.15461070]

>>15461051
Big beautiful walls for everyone.

[Anonymous No.15461072]

what does it feel like to cum in zero g?

[Anonymous No.15461073]

>>15461058
This, I didn't really understand how disgusting politics was until recently. There's no way to do things your way without pandering to some group or other that's already established, It's all a game of favors and blackmail, where playing dirty and stretching the rules is incentivized. Only way you clean the slate of all the parasites that were there before is a coup, otherwise they stay around forever.

[Anonymous No.15461083]

>>15460545
How much does this actually help? Was Rocket Lab planning on building another, non-final production facility before this deal was made?

[Anonymous No.15461085]

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1661516096023953409
TROPICS scrubbed for the night, 24 hour delay

[Anonymous No.15461088]

>>15461072
Its impossible

[Anonymous No.15461090]

>>15461085
Despite making up only 1 millionth of the earths mass, the atmosphere is responsible for 90+% of scroobs.
Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.15461096]

>>15461085
>weather satellite
>scrubbed for bad weather
the irony

[Anonymous No.15461109]

>>15461085
Isn't the project literally fucked if they can't get them off soon?

[Anonymous No.15461157]

>>15461088
NASA and Roscosmos both literally encourage their astronauts to crank their hogs regularly

https://latina.com/how-astronauts-masturbate-in-space/

(No I don't know how or why this article exists on a website called latina.com)

[Anonymous No.15461169]

>>15461157
Polyakov be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boo5PDjf1Es

[Anonymous No.15461185]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLgSNs8eBjU

Interim Skylon when?

[Anonymous No.15461202]

And now weather scrub for Falcon

[Anonymous No.15461218]

>>15460073
it kind of reminds me of skylab for some reason

[Anonymous No.15461224]

>>15461218
because it is large and has multiple decks?

[Anonymous No.15461233]

>>15461218
When you want to take a shit you do an ullage burn and shit directly into the waste tank.

[Anonymous No.15461247]

>>15460132
>>15460133
>>15460151
"What are you going to do, quit? I hope you have your own ride home!"

[Anonymous No.15461254]

Sniper platforms on the moon when?

[Anonymous No.15461257]

>>15461218
late 70's science illustration asthetic ahhhhhh
untarnshed future
none of the things that are in issue now.

[Anonymous No.15461268]

space shots

[Anonymous No.15461271]

>>15461268
SAR is such a meme kek

[Anonymous No.15461272]

>>15461268
Full Shot

[Anonymous No.15461277]

>>15461272
>>15461271
http://umbra-open-data-catalog.s3-website.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/?prefix=sar-data/tasks/ad%20hoc/Tesla%20Gigafactory%2C%20Austin%2C%20TX/290ddaa5-0dac-4df1-94f4-106ee785182c/

Full link. you can even check other sites as well. There's a China picture thats ~ 1GB in file.

[Anonymous No.15461284]

>>15461000
What was the optimistic timeline for this again? By how much does it best Gagarin?

[Anonymous No.15461301]

>>15460371
>MAGNI
>Musk Ain't Gonna Need It

[Anonymous No.15461337]

[Anonymous No.15461338]

/sfg/ on kuollut.

[Anonymous No.15461340]

>>15461337
Lmao. Elon is such a dipshit. He better hope Biden wins. Trump will fucking absolutely blackball SpaceX. Half of the SCOTUS is in his pocket, so even if Elon tried to take the government to court, he'd lose. I can't believe I'd see the day where America's fortunes regarding the return to space were destroyed by terminally online.

[Anonymous No.15461341]

>>15461337
Fucking based! Get Don back in there. make zionism cool again

[Anonymous No.15461342]

Send ALL politicians to the SUN

[Anonymous No.15461349]

/pol/cel heat shields when

[Anonymous No.15461353]

How Engineers Designed The First Computer To Fly In Space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OylMmZ54e7M
Related are Curious Marc's video series on restoring Appollo and Soyuz various computer and communication equipment: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousMarc
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-_93BVApb58SXL-BCv4rVHL-8GuC2WGb
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-_93BVApb5-951yH6TlPobwnQkLYWnDW
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-_93BVApb590C0xwno72CO4HApjxTQIh

[Anonymous No.15461362]

When the capsule reentry takes place and the parachutes are deployed, why do they come out at an angle instead of straight from the top of the cone? Is there a reason for this?

[Anonymous No.15461366]

>>15461362
I assume it's to catch air faster and ensure they fully expand. Capsules aren't dropping straight down either.

[Anonymous No.15461374]

>>15461362
For multiple parachutes, the offset allows enough clearance between the canopies so they don't interfere with each other's deployment. Many single-parachute capsule designs do deploy from the tip of the cone. A good example of this would be the EDL stages of JPL's various Mars landers.

[Anonymous No.15461382]

>>15461284
I think by a few months.

[Anonymous No.15461387]

>>15461340
What the fuck are you on about? Why would Trump blackball SpaceX. He would have a lot to lose, and nothing to gain from it.

[Anonymous No.15461404]

>>15460276
Total Boeing Death

[Anonymous No.15461405]

>>15461387
They think one shitpost video involving an F9 outweighs all the times Trump personally supported SpaceX and their service to the American people.

[Anonymous No.15461409]

>>15461387
Trump fucking hates Elon because he's a west coast tech dweeb.

[Anonymous No.15461412]

>>15461409
>he's a west coast tech dweeb.
Elon is a proud Sask farmer

[Anonymous No.15461413]

>>15461409
A few months after he posted this, he stated in some interview that he still likes Elon. Don't take his banter seriously, it's all for entertainment purposes.

[Anonymous No.15461421]

>>15460276
Nigga, Elon bought Twitter at 44 billion dollars, just for shits and giggles.
He has massive space autism and you think he cares?

[Anonymous No.15461425]

>>15461409
Who's a west coast tech dweeb? He's a Texan now.

[Anonymous No.15461427]

>>15461425
Branson version

[Anonymous No.15461431]

>>15461427

[Anonymous No.15461432]

>>15461405
He at least appreciated F9 boosters landing. Some public figures don't even realize it's happening to this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEwTFJG1DQ

[Anonymous No.15461448]

>>15461425
>>15461427
>>15461431
Second worst posts ever made to /sfg/ barring collagefag's tantrums where he samefags over and over

[Anonymous No.15461449]

>>15460776
same reason why the save icon is 3.5in floppy
recognizability

[Anonymous No.15461452]

>>15460776
Corporate nonsense culture same with yoga mats and Xbox at room

[Anonymous No.15461480]

>>15461233
I never noticed the trashcan is connected to the ex-LOx tank and that 1/3 of the station is delegated as a garbage dump
that has to be the most 60s, pre-environmentalism design choice I've ever seen
reminds me of the razorblade slots Americans had built into their walls at the time

[Anonymous No.15461492]

>>15461480
it seems retarded but for Skylab at least I feel like it was a decent "minimum viable" solution. It is strikingly American to not even attempt to give a fuck about station longevity though, kek

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.15461510]

Wanna know what the space bailbonds business is all about?

[Anonymous No.15461512]

>>15461510
Dont make me samefag with your name again

[Anonymous No.15461527]

>>15461421
my point was that virgin orbit used 1 bil on some smallsat meme launch and accomplished almost nothing, 3 bil is relatively nothing for Starship

[5'10 245lbs mountain of a man No.15461551]

>>15461512
I don't believe you ever did that.

[Anonymous No.15461565]

>>15461337
When was the last a Falcon 9 failed to land?

[Anonymous No.15461568]

>>15460081
>korean
>Gambatte

[Anonymous No.15461591]

>>15460126
kek

[Anonymous No.15461597]

https://spacenews.com/fleet-space-raises-33-million-for-mineral-exploration-constellation/

[Anonymous No.15461599]

https://spacenews.com/impulse-and-relativity-target-2026-for-launch-of-first-mars-lander-mission/

> While the launch of the first Mars mission may have slipped, the companies said at the conference that they are committed to flying a series of such commercial lander missions, creating what Josh Brost, senior vice president of revenue operations at Relativity, called a “constant supply chain to Mars.”

> That means flying missions at every launch opportunity, roughly two years apart. “We will take advantage of the window every 2.2 years and take at least one mission up,” said Barry Matsumori, chief operating officer of Impulse Space. He said the companies would offer a catalog of different payload options, “and that catalog will drive the missions we actually do.”

>They argued that having a frequent series of missions will enable new and lower cost science, including the ability to refly payloads. “By making transport to Mars more affordable, you open up that iteration loop that can lead to advancements that just could not have been envisioned previously,” said Brost.

> NASA has expressed an interest in eventually buying commercial services for Mars science missions. A draft robotic Mars exploration strategy released by NASA in March opened the door to acquire services for Mars science missions in a manner analogous to the Commercial Lunar Payload Services program of robotic lunar lander missions.

> That’s been a goal long associated with SpaceX and its founder, Elon Musk, who frequently talks about making humanity multiplanetary. “In the last several years, there’s really been one loud commercial voice talking about Mars,” Brost said, alluding to SpaceX. “But for Mars to really happen and be affordable and sustainable and all of those things, it doesn’t take one company. It takes dozens or hundreds. You need lots of different people working on different parts of the problem set.”

[Anonymous No.15461602]

>>15461599

[Anonymous No.15461605]

https://www.space.com/virgin-galactic-unity-25-spaceflight-what-time

> Virgin Galactic officials are targeting a takeoff time of 8 a.m. Mountain Time (10 a.m. EDT or 1400 GMT) on May 25 from Spaceport America for the Unity 25 mission. That is when we expect the company's WhiteKnightTwo carrier plane, called Eve, to take off from Spaceport America and begin its ascent to launch altitude.

> That takeoff time could change, as Virgin Galactic has said it is only when the window will open to start the flight. Virgin Galactic has a 9-hour window for Unity 25 operations on May 23, according to an FAA Notice To Airmen warning (NOTAM) for spacecraft recovery operations that begins at 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. EDT (1400-2300 GMT). It repeats on Friday, May 26, for the same hours, suggesting Virgin Galactic has at least one backup day for the flight.

so the target is to launch in about 5h, there will be no livestream but updates through twitter

[Anonymous No.15461607]

>>15461597
I feel like 33 mill is just too little to do anythig with, like 1/3rd of that will go away when buying a ride to space. So only 2/3rds left to actual development and mission

[Anonymous No.15461608]

>>15461605
> It's also unclear how much information Virgin Galactic will share in real time for the mission. In the past, Virgin Galactic has posted images of preflight, takeoff, mid-air launch and landing.

>However, a Virgin Galactic spokesperson did tell Space.com that the company plans to release details of the test fight, including images and video, after the flight. So we'll have to stay tuned for that.

[Anonymous No.15461610]

>>15461607
those are still pretty early funding rounds
how much is a rideshare really? first you launch just a prototype and do that a few times, then get more funding hopefully when that works out
when you start actually building the constellation you need to get big funding

[Anonymous No.15461611]

https://twitter.com/virgingalactic/status/1661574670183985152

[Anonymous No.15461615]

https://www.virgingalactic.com/news/virgin-galactic-announces-crew-for-return-to-space

The crew (passengers)

[Anonymous No.15461617]

>>15461615
hahahaha, holy shit this must be a joke

[Anonymous No.15461622]

>>15461615
the pilots on the VSS Unity space plane

> Michael Masucci: Masucci will serve as Virgin Space Ship (VSS) Unity commander and has flown on multiple suborbital spaceflights with Virgin Galactic. His first trip to space was a 2019 test flight. He has flown on 80 different types of aircraft since 1982 and accrued more than 10,000 flight hours during his career.

> C.J. Sturckow: A former NASA astronaut and retired Marine Corps colonel, Sturckow is will serve as Unity's pilot and has flown on four NASA space shuttle missions to orbit, commanding two of them. He has flown on 65 different types of craft and has over 8.700 hours of flight experience. His first trip to space was on NASA's STS-88 mission in 1998, and he later flew on STS-105, STS-117 and STS-128 missions, leaving NASA in 2013. He first flew to suborbital space on Unity during a December 2018 test flight.

the pilots on the Virgin Mother Ship VMS Eve (normal plane)

> Jameel Janjua: Janjua, who will command the VMS Eve carrier plane during the Unity 25 flight, has been flying aircraft since 1995. He has flown on 60 different types of aircraft and accrued 4,800 hours of flight time during his career.

> Nicola Pecile: Pecile serves as VMS Eve pilot on the Unity 25 flight and has flown on 170 different aircraft since beginning his flying career in 1991. He has a total of 7,700 flight hours, according to Virgin Galactic.

[Anonymous No.15461623]

South Korea's rocket is in flight

[Anonymous No.15461625]

>>15461623
link??

[Anonymous No.15461628]

the mission profile

>The flight begins at takeoff, with SpaceShipTwo Unity tucked beneath its VMS Eve mothership and attached to a pylon in between the carrier plane's twin booms. Eve will fly SpaceShipTwo up to an altitude of 50,000 feet (15,000 meters), where it will drop the Unity space plane and pull away to a safe distance.

>Aboard Unity, Massucci and Sturckow will ignite the space plane's hybrid rocket motor and ascend into space, reaching an altitude of at least 50 miles (80 kilometers), which the FAA and U.S. military have recognized as the boundary of space.

>At the peak of the flight, Unity and its crew will experience about four minutes of weightlessness, at which time the Gilbert, Huie, Mays and Moses can exit their seats, float about the cabin and look at Earth through Unity's large round windows.

>After those four minutes are over, the passengers will strap back into their seats for the return to Earth, with Massucci and Sturckow relying on a unique "feathering" system that folds its twin tail booms back and up like a shuttlecock to stabilize Unity during reentry. The space plane will then make a runway landing at Spaceport America to end the flight.

[Anonymous No.15461629]

>>15461625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEAjHv7S9FM They're just showing replays

[Anonymous No.15461631]

>>15461629
thanks, pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.15461642]

>wake up
>starship is now 300 tons to LEO
we're going 500 tons with raptor 3

[Anonymous No.15461651]

>A Titan Sample Return Using In-Situ Propellants is a proposed Titan sample return mission using in-situ volatile propellants available on its surface. This approach for Titan is very different from all conventional in-situ resource utilization concepts, and will accomplish a return of great science value toward planetary science, astrobiology, and understanding the origin of life, that is an order of magnitude more difficult (in distance and ∆V) than other sample return missions.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20210025383/downloads/Titan%20Sample%20Return_AIAA-SciTech_Finals%20(002).pdf

[Anonymous No.15461655]

>>15461651
>17 year odyssee

[Anonymous No.15461656]

>>15461642
wait 300 tons reusable?

[Anonymous No.15461659]

>>15461656
no

[Anonymous No.15461663]

>>15461656
its about this >>15460436

>Starship payload 250 to 300 tons to orbit in expendable mode
>Improved thrust & Isp from Raptor will enable ~6000 ton liftoff mass

[Anonymous No.15461664]

>>15461651
>2056
It's terrifying to see dates such as these and realizing you'll be an old fuck near the current average lifespan and just for some sample returns, probably never going to see any meaningful human space exploration

[Anonymous No.15461667]

>>15461664
That's only 33 years away. Don't tell me you're already over 20 years old?

[Anonymous No.15461669]

>>15461664
this is why we need to stop with all of these one off missions. we need to start establishing presences instead of short visits.

[Anonymous No.15461672]

>>15461669
None of these one off missions are going to happen. It'll be full manned presence in force or nothing.

[Anonymous No.15461676]

>>15461672
crewed*
:^)

[Anonymous No.15461680]

>>15461676
I hope that one day some boomer engineer on a NASA livestream forgets that it's changed and keeps saying manned, making everyone in the stream squirm uncomfortably.

[Anonymous No.15461694]

>>15461615
Anonymous flights when? If I had the cash and wanted to go into space, I would prefer a private trip.

[Anonymous No.15461698]

>Inspired in Charles Pellegrino's 'Project Valkyrie' of a lightweight antimatter spaceship built from super strong tethers and the vital components
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/BXXkLl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQWszarvv_o

[Anonymous No.15461740]

we should be at 100 launches this year. other organizations are slacking. pick up the pace, there's lots of stuff needing to be launched.

[Anonymous No.15461743]

>>15461694
I think all of these people are employees still

[Anonymous No.15461789]

>>15461448
>my stupid oxidizer question yesterday doesn’t make the short list
Almost relieved…

[Anonymous No.15461796]

>>15460496
>not enough hardware
based opinion

[Anonymous No.15461802]

>>15461271
>SAR is such a meme kek
Why is SAR a meme? Explain your reasoning.

[Anonymous No.15461810]

>>15461802
Ah that's nothing, /sfg/ anons have dismissed QED as a mush mind pop sci meme

[Anonymous No.15461815]

>>15461802
he is a retard that doesn't understand how magically bullshit SAR is

[Anonymous No.15461816]

>>15460073
>you will eat the bugs
>you will exercise in the pod

[Anonymous No.15461820]

>>15460326
Branson seems like an idiot chud that just got lucky with one thing in the past that made him wealthy and famous. key word, lucky.
since then he's been high on his own bullshit and thinks he's actually some kind of genius but he's not.
it's like Gates and Kurzweil, and a few others

[Anonymous No.15461824]

>>15461409
why did they fall out

[Anonymous No.15461829]

>>15461824
Who knows, trump just decided he didn't like him one day.

[Anonymous No.15461832]

>>15461820
>and a few others
musk

[Anonymous No.15461839]

>>15460437
csi starbase is literally black

[Anonymous No.15461847]

[Anonymous No.15461850]

>>15460540
>I thought we should wait and see whether they stay on target or not
An opinion like this without any stakes or decision involved is functionally meaningless on top of being bad analysis.

What risk are you trying to prevent by waiting? The cost of a temporarily wrong opinion? ($0)

[Anonymous No.15461860]

>>15460715
>>15460758
You can tell an author is getting lazy when he forgets to replace the obvious placeholder names like Bob Smith.

[Anonymous No.15461862]

>>15460860
bring your explosion viewing glasses

[Anonymous No.15461863]

>>15460715
It's to balance out the weird unrealistic names like Elon Musk.

[Anonymous No.15461864]

>>15461157
>three times a week
who the fuck did they survey?

[Anonymous No.15461887]

>>15461864
People older than 18 are men too.

[Anonymous No.15461890]

>>15461820
I think after a certain point you get so “rich” that you can go broke on paper, but still have multiple huge houses and yachts and stuff. Like after a certain point it becomes less about how much literal cash you actually have in a bank account and more about stocks, assets, etc. I don’t understand it. It just seems to work that way though

[Anonymous No.15461893]

>>15461850
Here’s an opinion for you: their first product is much more realistic than other space station producers, many of whom are planning on sending up hardware on rockets that do not exist. However they have a dumb monetization strategy, and it’s going to be hard to find enough people who can afford a ticket on a dragon capsule to stay in business doing only space tourism. Theres also a good chance they run into one roadblock they can’t get past while working up to their first module and never launch anything.

[Anonymous No.15461903]

New Eric Hamburger article about the implications of NASA picking two fully reusable moon landers.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/at-long-last-the-glorious-future-we-were-promised-in-space-is-on-the-way/

[Anonymous No.15461906]

They should give that old Saturn rocket to us and let 4ASS shoulder the cost of refurb and launch.

[Anonymous No.15461910]

>>15461824
not really sure how much of these are just /pol/ schizo ramblings and how representative they are of Trumps views or Trumps bases views, but I have a couple of ideas:
1) musk said he voted for biden (even though obviously he doesnt support biden anymore) instead of trump
2) a lot of the /pol/ conspiracy theorists seem to think Musk is somekind of deep state/government plant that is used to filter alien tech or whatever they have already done out to the public
3) he is seen as a silicon valley "techbro", which tend to be widely disliked at this point both by leftists and people on the right for different reasons
4) perhaps seen still as part of the coastal elite or something?
5) electric cars are thought of us expensive luxury items, shit that enviromentalists buy or california people (the reality is that model 3 cost of ownership over 5 years is similar to a new toyota corolla now)

[Anonymous No.15461916]

>>15461910
so it's just /pol/ being schizophrenic and contrarian again? Cool.

[Anonymous No.15461920]

>>15461820
he is probably a competent businessman, just not a very technical person so really no way to reliably ascertain if an idea is good or not and refers to some trusted "expert" like the dude he recruited from boeing to run the company
similarly to Bigelow, understands how to develop and run hotels, absolutely no technical knowledge
and really, who has ever seen Branson as some kind of genius? the media tried to paint Musk, Bezos and Branson as having somekind of space race going on, also pretty much having no technical knowledge of the situation, probably doing it for clicks
and something I often see is an article about talking about advancements in space (or perhaps some other area) and a bunch of companies are named, usually SpaceX with random other ones peppered in
I think a big reason this is done is to seem somehow more objective, but it might be just due to generally not knowing much about the subject

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bigelow

> At age 12, Bigelow decided that his future lay in space travel. Despite his limitations in mathematics, he resolved to choose a career that would make him rich enough that, one day, he could hire the scientific expertise required to launch his own space program.[8]

> He enrolled in the University of Nevada, Reno, in 1962 to study banking and real estate, and he graduated from Arizona State University in 1967.[8]

[Anonymous No.15461925]

>>15461916
Pretty much. Trump has directly said at rallies he wants people to have the choice to buy electric cars if they want to, just not be forced. You may notice this is identical to his stance on the COVID-19 vaccine. /pol/ is full of autists and schizos that can't handle that sort of nuanced take which is why so many of them felt betrayed when Trump didn't immediately start throwing Mexicans into wood chippers on his first day of office.

[Anonymous No.15461929]

>>15461916
thats only one of the options, I think Trumps base is bigger than just /pol/

but to add to this >>15461910
- Musk was on Trumps science advisory or something similar and quit due to Trump saying something like climate change isn't a thing
- it could just be trump shitposting
- musk isn't 100% antivax so there are still people on the right that criticize him for that
- he is seen as some kind of WEF plant or something (similar to the /pol/ alien tech conspiracy)

[Anonymous No.15461934]

>>15461903
> For pretty much the entire history of spaceflight, humans have tried to brute force things. It took a rocket to put a small satellite into space. It took a bigger rocket to launch humans. And it took the humongous Saturn V launch vehicle to ultimately put two humans on the surface of the Moon. The plan was always to pack everything needed for a mission—including propellant—onto a single rocket.

> Large rockets can also be incredibly expensive. For example, NASA's Space Launch System rocket alone costs more than $2.75 billion per launch, and that doesn't include the price of a payload.

>The solution to this problem involves several steps. The first is distributed launch. Two Falcon Heavy rockets, or four Falcon 9 rockets, can launch as much mass as NASA's Space Launch System rocket. The price for either option would be substantially less than $275 million, or one-tenth the cost of a single NASA launch. This exists today, and more partially reusable rockets are on the way.

> The second technology is storing and transferring fuel in space, known as propellant depots. SpaceX and Blue Origin need liquid oxygen to serve as an oxidizer for their engines, but each uses a different fuel: methane for Starship and hydrogen for Blue Moon. Both companies have work to do in proving out the technology to store and transfer these propellants, but both have already been partnering with NASA. Sowers believes this is a solvable problem.

> The third breakthrough, which unlocks the potential of this new spaceflight paradigm, is harvesting resources in space. This means tapping into the water ice believed to exist in abundance at the lunar poles and the ample ingredients for methane in the Martian atmosphere. The work is already happening here. Blue Origin has won several "Tipping Point" grants from NASA to demonstrate liquid hydrogen and oxygen production on the Moon, and with its MOXIE experiment, NASA has already produced oxygen on Mars.

[Anonymous No.15461935]

>>15461920
it's kind of sad how bigelow turned out. I think they could've done quite well.

[Anonymous No.15461937]

>>15461934
> When Sowers and his team released a series of papers showing how an architecture with refueling and depots would enable a human exploration program using existing commercial rockets, Boeing officials became furious and tried to get him fired. While Sowers was protected by his company's leadership, he was banned from uttering the word "depot."

> At the same time, a powerful US Senator, Richard Shelby of Alabama, was adding billions of dollars to NASA's budget for the Space Launch System. This vehicle was being designed and managed at Marshall Space Flight Center in his home state. He, too, told NASA officials to stop talking about depots. Before then, NASA had been considering funding some experiments with United Launch Alliance on propellant storage in space.

Boeing strikes again

> Shelby retired at the end of 2022. One long-time advocate of propellant depots, Jonathan Goff, does not believe this is coincidental to the space agency's renewed interest in depots.

> Like Sowers, he welcomed NASA's entry into an era of reusable spaceflight. But Goff noted that it is really only happening because two billionaires, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, are aggressively pushing the idea forward.

> Although developing Starship, Blue Moon, and their refueling capabilities will be challenging, Goff said they are engineering projects and not basic science. In other words, we know this will work. Humans have built plenty of rockets before, and with the Falcon 9, we know that rapid reuse is possible. The physics and engineering of propellant storage and transfer is solid; it just needs to be done.

> "I think we could have done a lot of this in the 1960s if we had put our minds to it," he said. "The only reason we haven’t done it by now is because it’s hard to get the money to do it. Until now, most people assumed a big rocket, like with Apollo, was the only way."

[Anonymous No.15461947]

>>15461903
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661710777198206976

[Anonymous No.15461979]

>>15461602
>space environmentalist
What a fag

[Anonymous No.15461986]

>no official VG stream
>no T-0

[Anonymous No.15461988]

>>15461986
It's a ride for the terminally rich and bored. The fuck do you need a stream for?

[Anonymous No.15461990]

>>15461986
not
orbital

[Anonymous No.15461991]

South Koreans launch a rocket earlier this morning

[Anonymous No.15461993]

>>15461988
>>15461990
it looks cool though

[Anonymous No.15461996]

>>15461986
they don't stream commercial airlines either

[Anonymous No.15461997]

>>15461993
Well you can always look at NSF and hope they pull the oops lever.

[Anonymous No.15462001]

>>15461991
best korea launches rockets all the time

[Anonymous No.15462019]

>>15462001
The Sea of Japan ain't space, son.

[Anonymous No.15462024]

>>15461568
冗談がわからなくてもあなたの人生はまだ価値がある。たぶん。

[Anonymous No.15462025]

>>15461233
when you have to take a shit in the middle of the room for everybody to spectate

[Anonymous No.15462029]

[Anonymous No.15462033]

>>15461615
>space rastafarians
every day Neuromancer moves slightly closer to the nonfiction section

[Anonymous No.15462038]

>The Blue Moon lander is now completely reusable; it will remain in lunar orbit, going up and down to the surface. It will be serviced by a transport vehicle that will be fueled in low-Earth orbit and then deliver propellant to the Moon. This transporter, in turn, will be refilled by multiple launches of the reusable New Glenn rocket.
oof

[Anonymous No.15462042]

airborne

[Anonymous No.15462045]

>>15462033
I still havent finished neuromancer, and I was unfortunate enough to finish that garbage piece of shit book snowcrash first, guh

[Anonymous No.15462050]

>>15461667
>you must be under 18 years of age to post year

[Anonymous No.15462051]

>>15462045
Neuromancer is way better. The worst you can say is that there are a few quaint technology misses like the lack of cell phones and the characters are a bit shallow.

[Anonymous No.15462054]

>>15462042
Didn't they go bankrupt?

[Anonymous No.15462056]

>>15462054
the other virgin

[Anonymous No.15462063]

>>15462054
That was Virgin Orbit, this is Virgin Galactic.

[Anonymous No.15462066]

>>15462042
>suborbital space
Does it even get that high? Or are they using some cucked definition of space?

[Anonymous No.15462067]

Interceptor ready. Fox 3!

[Anonymous No.15462068]

>>15461789
I remember. I will always remember.

[Anonymous No.15462072]

>>15462067
>Truth of Consequences
Some serious roleplaying going on with place names in America.

[Anonymous No.15462085]

>>15462054
Virgin Orbit, a spinoff off Virgin Galactic, went bankrupt

[Anonymous No.15462103]

> As of Jan 2023, SpaceX has launched 1272 metric tons of mass to orbit. This means it would take ~5 fully expendable Starship launches to launch all the mass that SpaceX has ever put in orbit.

[Anonymous No.15462116]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQQ5lxfKGU

hullo on the stream

[Anonymous No.15462133]

>>15462103
or more to the point, twelve fully reusable starships

[Anonymous No.15462137]

>>15462133
how many sls' in terms of $ cost?

[Anonymous No.15462141]

[Anonymous No.15462143]

>>15462137
immeasurable

[Anonymous No.15462152]

>>15462137
$500 billion

[Anonymous No.15462164]

>>15462141
This just seems like a big waste of time and money. VG will never get to LEO with this tech. They already killed two people. What are they hoping to achieve?

[Anonymous No.15462175]

[Anonymous No.15462181]

>>15462175
we could be about to watch 6 people die

[Anonymous No.15462183]

>>15462175
Neat

[Anonymous No.15462194]

>>15462175
someone tell the pilots to do a flip. That would be cool, and VG would get more money.

[Anonymous No.15462201]

just think, they're the second highest commercial passengers in space rn

[Anonymous No.15462208]

at apogee, with the earths horizon in full view from the small port window next to their seats, at least one of them will pause and ponder what a profound waste of money this was.

[Anonymous No.15462211]

>>15462201
I'd rather get a ride on the Concorde than that rickety death can. BRING BACK THE CONCORDE

[Anonymous No.15462228]

>>15462211
concord was wild. not the design, but the fact that in the 60s (!) two socialst run countries both bankrupt from ww2 decided the best use of the equivalent of 10s of billions of pounds/francs was to create a loss making plane that would only fly incredible wealthy people between london and newyork at mach 1.5 whilst sipping gin and do literally nothing else.

[Anonymous No.15462235]

>>15462228
I know. Imagine an all first class commercial flight w/ sexy British accent flight attendants serving you Gin at 60k feet. Its understandable that poorfags disapprove.

[Anonymous No.15462238]

https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1661741746265657344

[Anonymous No.15462240]

>>15462228
>two socialst run countries
Having a bit more welfare provision than the US did at the time doesn't make them socialist

[Anonymous No.15462244]

>>15460089
spaceplane fag go and stay go

[Anonymous No.15462246]

>>15462238
Starlink posting is best posting

[Anonymous No.15462247]

>>15462235
the legacy is airbus, a company that makes boeing look nimble and efficient and whoes highest aspiration in name is to make a bus (the worst form of pleb transport imaginable) fly.

[Anonymous No.15462249]

>>15460190
I actually cannot as I have never smelled a naked woman or the excretions they produce during sexual activity.

[Anonymous No.15462250]

There is no environment in space.

[Anonymous No.15462251]

>>15462240
post war labour governments were practically communist.

[Anonymous No.15462265]

>>15462251
> The governments that spent fortunes to make atom bombs to drop on the USSR if it came to that, were in fact communists themselves

[Anonymous No.15462268]

>>15462265
>he thinks the cold war was a war of ideology

[Anonymous No.15462294]

>>15462265
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15462345]

>>15462240
What a shot

[Anonymous No.15462401]

is today, May 25th 2023, the first time that 20 people have been in space at the same time?
ISS 11, Tiangong 3, Virgin Galactic 6

[Anonymous No.15462410]

>>15462401
>vg
>in space

[Anonymous No.15462412]

>>15462410
it passed the karman line didn't it? I know you fags don't like sounding rockets but I very deliberately didn't say orbit.

[Anonymous No.15462414]

>>15462412
the hymen line should be moved to 150km so virgin never gets there

[Anonymous No.15462416]

>>15462401
yes. we broke the record. i expect that the the "most people in space" record will be broken once at year or multiple times a year for the forseeable future.

[Anonymous No.15462437]

https://twitter.com/NASAOIG/status/1661808907449237522

$6 billion COST INCREASE for RS-25, for just the next 6 years.

LMAO

[Anonymous No.15462442]

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1661790482396073984

spoiler: its nasa

[Anonymous No.15462443]

>>15462437
pork barrel shittle lives on, lmao

[Anonymous No.15462445]

>>15462437
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661809892619943975

they are really getting sucked dry
oldspace needs to die already

[Anonymous No.15462446]

>>15462437
Ummmm sorry sweaty. but those are mature engines

[Anonymous No.15462451]

>>15462437
I think you read it wrong. I think the audits says that over the last 6 years both the boosters and the rs-25s contributed to being 6 billion over budget.

[Anonymous No.15462453]

>>15462240
>>15462265
Bong here, nobody talks about because it's inconvenient to retarded lefties, but britain was absolutely communist: wages and prices were set according to trade union 'recommendations'. Government was subsidizing jobs that had no business case and were losing money hand over fist just to keep unemployment low. Unions were stealing shit, the shipbuilding sector was particularly bad, people were striking against the adoption of fucking modern shipping containers because it would cut jobs. All this came to a head when Britain had to take a loan from the IMF, and after that fucking stagflation. When the money ran out, the massive powerful unions saw that their real wages were decreasing out of control and decided to solve the problem with massive strike action, which caused the 'winter of discontent' where there were dead bodies and rubbish on the streets because even the gravediggers and rubbish collectors were striking. They had to institute three day weeks because they couldn't power the country. It was grim, and we still deal with the leftovers.

[Anonymous No.15462457]

did we ever figure out how to land HLSSS without sending moon rocks into lunar orbit

[Anonymous No.15462459]

>>15462437
why the dramatic cost increase?

[Anonymous No.15462460]

>>15462247
Airbus is a shit but implying that they're worse than fucking Boing is terminally insane

[Anonymous No.15462463]

>>15462459
boomer pensions

[Anonymous No.15462465]

>>15462459
COST PLUS. The incentive is to increase the cost as much as possible and the government will pay the full price + 10-20 of the cost%

[Anonymous No.15462466]

>>15462437

[Anonymous No.15462469]

>>15462466
Maybe NASA just stop doing business with those that won't deliver? And maybe they fire the internal lobbyists? Hm?

[Anonymous No.15462471]

>>15462466
I'm sure the shitters that complain about Musk using taxpayer subsidies to build his rockets are outraged by this waste of money.

[Anonymous No.15462481]

>>15462437
lmao

[Anonymous No.15462484]

>>15462460
explain with your words how airbus is any better than boeing

[Anonymous No.15462485]

>>15461910
he is definitely somehow connected with the government. No way someone with his understanding of engineering could successfully run Tesla and SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15462486]

>>15462437
Just the overrun, on only the engines, engines that were designed 40 years ago and have flown over a hundred times, costs more than the entire Starship program.
Unreal.

[Anonymous No.15462487]

>>15462484
airbus didn't make the shitliner and killed people because the low iq pilots couldn't hack their big brained autopilot

[Anonymous No.15462488]

>>15462484
uhh, nta, but don't they make cheaper stuff that is higher quality and safer? They also don't do the shady stuff that boeing has done.

[Anonymous No.15462489]

>>15462485
what do you mean? have you seen the starbase interviews?

[Anonymous No.15462491]

>>15462459
Aerojew

[Anonymous No.15462492]

>>15462487
no they made the a380 which was pork barrel with cracked carbon wings tho

[Anonymous No.15462494]

>>15462164
>They already killed two people. What are they hoping to achieve?
Isn't it obvious? To kill more.

[Anonymous No.15462496]

>>15462194
They already tried that :^)

[Anonymous No.15462504]

>>15462238
Just imagine how much fucking spam we're going to get once the bottom half of the world's population gets internet access. I hope X is good at filtering spam.

[Anonymous No.15462506]

>>15462484
their shit works and is reliable

[Anonymous No.15462508]

>>15462504
Yes, a lot of us will win big lottery, just need bank account and routing number please sir.

[Anonymous No.15462510]

>>15462504
Isn't most spam bot generated already? A bunch of retards aren't going to change that much, just need a retard filter, which shouldn't be that difficult to have

[Anonymous No.15462512]

>>15462453
jesus christ wikipedia and the internet have fully fucking blackholed the sterling crisis. The wikipedia page has been fully co-opted it doesn't even make sense. Commies really fucking hate history.

[Anonymous No.15462514]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661816176190562322

[Anonymous No.15462515]

>>15462514
https://twitter.com/zhaphod/status/1661818016261353473

[Anonymous No.15462516]

>>15462437

[Anonymous No.15462517]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661817105606385685

what in the fuck are they spending the money on? seriously? is it just pure grift? or just massive incompetence
I mean look at virgin orbit, a boeing dude was leading it, can't just have been purely grift (giving yourself more bonuses), they spent money on hiring and facilities etc
so I think a big part of it is just pure incompetence

[Anonymous No.15462519]

>>15462510
Have you ever read /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.15462520]

https://twitter.com/BellikOzan/status/1661816563383824384

[Anonymous No.15462522]

>>15462437
OH YES YES YES oldspace bros, I'm thinking we're back

[Anonymous No.15462524]

>>15462517
its grifting. there is no legitimate reason for 6bn extra being needed to get already designed engines built.

[Anonymous No.15462525]

>>15462459
Purposefully complex and costly engineering solutions (and fixation on ancient hardware) over practical benefits. RS-25 have absolutely no sense on SLS due to its mission profile, even the basic RD-0120 without the many proposed design improvements over the decades BTFO's it. This is a great example of the oldspace mentality vs. SpaceX and others that would never, ever consider obsolete, inappropriate hardware on a "new" launcher

[Anonymous No.15462526]

When even the biggest SLS stans are forced to admit costs are out of control.

[Anonymous No.15462527]

>>15462504
good morning

[Anonymous No.15462530]

>>15462526
damn, I was looking forward to his cope. What a slimy weasel.

[Anonymous No.15462535]

save sls and artemis from this nightmare

[Anonymous No.15462543]

>>15462459
oldspace knows it is on its way out more or less. Need to squeeze that piggy bank one last time for a final pay day

[Anonymous No.15462544]

>>15462535
>i will pay you x amount of money to put y amount of men + payload on the moon by z date and if you don't meet those lines you don't get paid
done

[Anonymous No.15462546]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661824579013050368

[Anonymous No.15462548]

>>15462546

[Anonymous No.15462549]

>>15462546
where were you when oldspace kill?

[Anonymous No.15462550]

>>15462548
Reminder that SpaceX is test firing Raptor 2/3's up to four times a day.

[Anonymous No.15462554]

the oig report pdf

[Anonymous No.15462553]

>>15462512
>Commies really fucking hate history.
true that is why they are always trying to delete it and replace it with their fairy tales. National socialists did the same but as they were discredited it also is now a thing of the distant past

[Anonymous No.15462558]

>>15462554
>Given the enormous cost of the Artemis campaign, NASA is exploring ways to make the SLS—which requires two
boosters and four RS-25 engines per launch—more affordable by moving towards a fixed-price contract structure for
booster production and establishing cost reduction targets on the production of new RS-25 engines. While these efforts
may result in savings over the long term, ongoing schedule delays and cost increases raise questions about the Agency’s
ability to meaningfully reduce booster- and engine-related Artemis costs.
my sides

[Anonymous No.15462559]

>>15462550
why dont they built a fully stationary superheavy booster and do rapid full duration test burns? Seems like while they work individually the violence of the 30+ brothers firing at once seems to still cause unforseen problems in some of them.

[Anonymous No.15462561]

>>15462558
"In this audit, we examined the extent to which NASA is meeting cost, schedule, and performance goals for the Boosters
and Adaptation contracts, and whether BPOC and RS-25 Restart and Production, the follow-on production contracts,
reduce the government’s financial risk and promote affordability. To complete this work, we conducted interviews with
NASA, Northrop Grumman, and Aerojet Rocketdyne officials"

[Anonymous No.15462566]

>>15462554
>$93 BILLION DOLLARS
WHAT ARE THEY DOING HOLY FUCK

[Anonymous No.15462568]

>>15462566
Welcome to the pork barrel. You've barely opened the lid.

[Anonymous No.15462569]

"At definitization,
BPOC also lacked scope details, omitted key contract clauses, underwent a limited legal review, and is at risk of making
duplicate payments for overlapping work performed under BPOC and the upcoming Exploration Production and
Operations Contract. We also questioned an additional $5.6 million payment NASA made to Northrop Grumman related
to the Agency’s improper liquidation of funds."

[Anonymous No.15462572]

>>15462517
>As a result, we question $19.8 million in award fees it received for the 11 unfinished engines which were subsequently
moved to the RS-25 Restart and Production contract and may now be eligible to receive additional award fees.
olololol

[Anonymous No.15462576]

>>15462554
>BIPC
wtf gender is that

[Anonymous No.15462578]

>>15462504
AI bots are gonna come faster

[Anonymous No.15462579]

>>15462576
meant to write >BPOC sorry I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.15462581]

>Long-Standing Management Issues Drive Increases in
SLS Engine and Booster Contracts’ Costs and Schedules
The RS-25 engine and booster contracts’ cost and schedule increases result from several long-standing
interrelated management issues that the OIG previously identified, including underestimated scope and
complexity of work, concurrent development and production contract activities, inadequate
procurement workforce, poor contract definitization, reliance on cost-plus contract structures for
production efforts, and inappropriate use of award fees.

[Anonymous No.15462582]

>>15462512
if you think that's bad don't look up the race and iq page

[Anonymous No.15462583]

>>15462579
booster production and operations contract

[Anonymous No.15462586]

>>15462437
Earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, no matter how much money you throw at them. Sooner or later even science golems will have to ask yourself some serious questions about these manufactured "delays" and postponements.

[Anonymous No.15462589]

we're reusing the engine by uh completely redesigning it because the orange foam doesn't like it or something.

[Anonymous No.15462590]

>>15462582
I don't think I can bring myself to read it. I already know they'll be turning the info manipulation to absolute max for that one, would sicken me. My consolation is that my family has a full set of physical encyclopedia brittanica from just before the internet got popular, so if it gets really bad I'll have some record of how things really were.

[Anonymous No.15462594]

https://twitter.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/1661696954299035660

[Anonymous No.15462597]

>>15462590
it's brutal
"Due to the amount of time elapsed between the conclusion of the Shuttle Program and the beginning
of the Artemis campaign, NASA faces significant challenges maintaining the industrial base and supply
chains required to produce the RS-25. Specifically, many of the parts in the engine controller system
were no longer available, which necessitated a new Engine Controller Unit (ECU) design by the
contractor. Further, Aerojet’s early technical assumptions for the new ECU—which contains the
electronics that operate the engine and communicate with the SLS vehicle—lacked a comprehensive
understanding of controller design requirements and an agreed-upon scope of work, which resulted in
significant technical issues culminating in increased costs and expanded schedule.36
As a result, by the
end of the Adaptation contract performance period in September 2020, NASA had spent nearly
$2.1 billion instead of the originally proposed $1.1 billion, including Constellation expenses. Excluding
Constellation expenses, NASA spent $581 million for the adaptation of 16 RS-25 engines at a cost that
exceeded its initial estimate by $238 million. Moreover, for that $581 million, only 5 of the 16 engines
were completed at the contract’s close"
they couldn't replicate a 70s ecu for under 1bn

[Anonymous No.15462601]

>>15462594
https://spacenews.com/first-components-of-mobile-launcher-2-arrive-at-ksc/

> Bechtel, the prime contractor for the Mobile Launcher 2 (ML-2), said May 25 that the first steel components for the structure arrived at KSC earlier this month. The steel trusses, manufactured for Bechtel by Paxton & Vierling Steel in Iowa, will be part of the foundation of the base of the structure.

>NASA awarded a contract to Bechtel in 2019 to design and build ML-2, which will be used by the Block 1B version of the SLS. That version of the rocket, with a more powerful Exploration Upper Stage, is taller than the current Block 1 version and requires a new structure to support it.

> That cost-plus contract was originally valued at $383 million, with delivery of ML-2 scheduled for March 2023. However, the development of the structure has suffered serious delays and cost overruns. An audit by NASA’s Office of Inspector General in June 2022 concluded that the structure would cost up to $1.5 billion and not be completed until late 2027.

> “The success of the completed Integrated Critical Design Review (ICDR) and now our first steel delivery are two recent milestones that reflect the team’s dedication and drive,” said Felice Presti, project manager at Bechtel, in a company statement. “We remain committed to our mission of permanently changing the landscape at Kennedy and supporting the proud history and legacy of our customer, NASA.”

> Artemis 4, the first launch of the SLS Block 1B and thus the first use of ML-2, is currently scheduled for the fall of 2028, according to a NASA Artemis mission manifest published in March.

[Anonymous No.15462606]

https://spacenews.com/virgin-galactic-makes-first-suborbital-spaceflight-in-nearly-two-years/

> Virgin Galactic released VSS Unity at 12:23 p.m. Eastern. The spaceplane appeared to perform a nominal burn of its hybrid rocket engine before descending to a runway landing back at Spaceport America nearly 15 minutes later. Virgin Galactic said the vehicle reached a peak altitude of 87.2 kilometers — above the 50-mile altitude used by U.S. government agencies for awarding astronaut wings, but below the 100-kilometer Kármán line — and top speed of Mach 2.94.

> The flight, called Unity 25 by the company, was the first powered flight of SpaceShipTwo since July 2021, when the vehicle flew six people, including company founder Richard Branson. Both Unity and Eve went into extended maintenance periods after that flight and resumed test flights earlier this year, with Unity making a glide flight April 26.

> “Looking down at our beautiful planet from space, something that so few humans have experienced, was such a humbling, awe-inspiring, and reverent experience,” said Huie in a company statement. “As one of the first 20 Black people who have gone to space, I hope that I can inspire the next generation of astronauts who look like me to set their goals high and break down the mental and institutional barriers that have held people of color back.

> Virgin Galactic said before the flight that Unity 25 would be its final test before beginning commercial service. Its first commercial flight, called “Galactic 01”, is scheduled for as soon as late June carrying three mission specialists on a dedicated research flight for the Italian Air Force. Colglazier, in the post-flight statement, confirmed that schedule for Galactic 01.

[Anonymous No.15462608]

>>15462566
buying screws for 10k a piece

[Anonymous No.15462611]

despite all the grift, the only person who can put a stop to it is the president. Obama stopped costellation, and congress got it's revenge by proposing SLS which increased the pork tenfold, they showed they could get away with stealing tens of billions and rubbed it in everyone's faces.

[Anonymous No.15462612]

>>15462606
https://twitter.com/virgingalactic/status/1661781544451858433

[Anonymous No.15462615]

https://twitter.com/richardbranson/status/1661805396120551424

[Anonymous No.15462617]

>>15462520
that's one expensive sugar rocket

[Anonymous No.15462622]

>>15462606
I remember seeing a pic of that vehicle as a literal child, it was captioned with something saying something about space tourism in the future. Crazy how slow this company is.

[Anonymous No.15462623]

>>15462597
>they couldn't replicate a 70s ecu for under 1bn
You could probably do it with a fucking raspberry pi

[Anonymous No.15462625]

>>15462601
>expendable ground infrastructure

[Anonymous No.15462627]

>>15462622
the first flight was 13 years ago apparently, the company itself was founded 19 years ago

> 10 October 2010 (first glide flight)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceShipTwo

[Anonymous No.15462628]

>>15462623
raspberry pi isn't certified for use in space. It takes dozens of expensive engineers (plus plenty of upper management) and 2 years of testing with expensive scientific equipment to confirm that a 20,000 off the shelf raspberry pi works in space.

[Anonymous No.15462631]

>>15462628
*$20,000

[Anonymous No.15462632]

When the fuck will NASA have a press conference and some journo have the balls to ask why SLS + associated hardware are so fucking expensive. Seriously. It’s ludicrous. It seems like Berger always wants to ask it but skirts around it; he needs to buck up and just flat out ask Nelson why it’s still on the table at this point

[Anonymous No.15462633]

>>15462625
this is literally SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15462636]

>>15462514
>almost 3 expendable Falcon Heavy launches for the price of one (1) engine
haha, man, I want real earthers to die real deaths

[Anonymous No.15462637]

>>15462632
They probably know that they'll get some canned answer? idk.
Might just be because asking would be incredibly awkward.

[Anonymous No.15462638]

[Anonymous No.15462640]

[Anonymous No.15462641]

dreamchaser will never carry people. It might not even carry cargo.

[Anonymous No.15462647]

>>15462554
>default Microsoft Word heading/body fonts and preset formatting/graphics
This document is so breathtakingly generic. I'd commend the OIG for not wasting money on graphic design but I'm sure whoever made this is being paid way more than they should.

[Anonymous No.15462648]

>>15462520
OIG can't do that without shuttleboomers in Congress trying to kill the entire Artemis program in retaliation.

[Anonymous No.15462650]

>>15462586
>The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day. There is a debate about the length of the solar year in the Talmud, and its consequences and the rare Jewish ceremony of the Blessing of the Sun (Birkat Hahammah) are discussed. The view of the talmudic rabbis is contrasted with that of the contemporary Greek astronomers. While the rabbis of the Talmud argued about the size of the flat Earth, the Greeks had determined the Earth to be a sphere, had calculated its circumference and had moved on to consider other questions.
https://academic.oup.com/book/1751/chapter-abstract/141387578?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[Anonymous No.15462655]

>>15462632
Because it wouldn't get them anywhere. Berger isn't stupid, nor is Foust. Asking a question like that only makes it so that the organization gets pissed off at you and will make access to various events more difficult for you. Still, both of them have asked critical questions in the past about different projects. Foust recently with his annoyance at NT's talking head just obviously lying about the status of the lander. And I also seem to recall Berger asking Nelson what they were going to do about the constant delays at some point last year. Ultimately, even if they do respond, it's just going to be a company line about "being proud of the work our partners are doing as we continue forward toward the critical path" since admitting that you've fucked up openly just doesn't occur and that fuck up exposures have to be done through avenues like the OIG, or insiders, or reality just confronting them.

[Anonymous No.15462657]

>>15462650
>copy pasted response
I like to laugh at FE's as much as the next guy, but reusing the same posts over and over is exactly the same thing they do: it doesn't do anything except clog up the thread with garbage posts. Change the picture at the very least.

[Anonymous No.15462658]

>>15462650
also got literally creates a transparent dome above Earth to keep the water out in Genesis. Can't make this shit up

[Anonymous No.15462681]

>>15462453
labour pm near the end of the UK's commie misadventures. Very enlightening and somewhat hilarious. Later that year the public finally was completely disillusioned and elected good old Thatcher by a landslide, and Labour didn't get in power again until 18 years later. Maybe the UK would've had their own space program by now if the whole debacle didn't happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePk1Gs8ZLTs
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ePk1Gs8ZLTs

[Anonymous No.15462697]

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1661834466032238592

JEFF?

[Anonymous No.15462704]

>>15462697
BE-4's have remote killswitches. Jeff is killing his competition in the crib.

[Anonymous No.15462707]

>>15462072
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_or_Consequences,_New_Mexico
>It has frequently been noted on lists of unusual place names for having chosen to rename itself in March 1950 after the Truth or Consequences radio show.
Even in the 1950s, people did things for the lulz.

[Anonymous No.15462711]

>>15462559
I think we need another launch before making that sort of conclusion.

[Anonymous No.15462712]

>put a mars-class passenger starship in LEO as a space hotel

remind me what the point of VAST is again? oh that's right, nothing

[Anonymous No.15462717]

>>15462704
checks out

[Anonymous No.15462723]

>>15462072
They temporarily changed the name as part of a stunt for a game show but then everyone decided the name was actually kinda cool so they never bothered to change it back.

[Anonymous No.15462733]

>>15462504
it will be the huepocalypse?

[Anonymous No.15462737]

>>15462723
lmao

[Anonymous No.15462752]

>>15462628
>>15462631
More like $200. We've sent up one on a Transporter already. We also have to deal with scalper shits inflating the prices.
>t. startup tech

[Anonymous No.15462756]

>>15462416
All we need is to do is set a requirement for each person to be "in space" for at least one continuous hour to count for the record.
>and that's when the balloons start going up

[Anonymous No.15462759]

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1661853440132149254

[Anonymous No.15462760]

>>15461929
>Musk was on Trumps science advisory or something similar and quit due to Trump saying something like climate change isn't a thing
I had the impression that Musk just didn't want the negative press of being cooperative with Trump. They started hitting him with this immediately as the joined the committee. This was before the EDS.

[Anonymous No.15462761]

>>15462759
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661852201285820417

the absolute fucking state of boeing
someone put it out of its misery already

[Anonymous No.15462766]

>>15462697
And here comes the uncountable amount of seemingly small errors that seem completely unrelated to one another, but will ultimately cripple and kill a whole rocket lineup

[Anonymous No.15462769]

>>15462760
yeah maybe, it was a while ago so I don't remember the specifics anymore
maybe the real reason was negative press and the climate change thing was just an excuse to leave without seeming arbitrary

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/1/15726292/elon-musk-trump-advisory-council-paris-climate-decision

[Anonymous No.15462772]

>>15462769
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/870369915894546432

[Anonymous No.15462774]

>>15462759
>>15462761
It's never going to carry people is it? Reminder that we would still be completely beholden to Russia if it weren't for SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15462781]

>>15462774
Is this just a mockup or the actual starliner? It seems like nothing is really integrated here

[Anonymous No.15462783]

>>15462723
It also sounds like the kind of name that a wild-west 19th-century fire-and-brimstone type would come up with. I mean, there was already a place named Tombstone.

[Anonymous No.15462784]

>>15462781
no idea, I grabbed that photo from this article
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-57971910
which doesn't actually mention it.

[Anonymous No.15462788]

>>15462445
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1661814569700917278

Each SLS + Artemis launch costs 4.2 billion now

[Anonymous No.15462791]

https://twitter.com/neuralink/status/1661857379460468736

Neuralinks coming into your brain soon

[Anonymous No.15462792]

>>15462774
To be fair, some of the delay has been due to no fucking available docking ports on ISS because Boing took so long with its fuck-ups.

[Anonymous No.15462794]

>>15462761
Should have gotten Tesla batteries

lol

Also in some tangent news related to future of space colonization

[Anonymous No.15462805]

Supreme Court reduced the powers of EPA along the wetlands, Starbase is in wetlands. Thus this allows SpaceX more flexibility

[Anonymous No.15462810]

>>15462760
>>15462769
Yeah, it did seem like a bullshit reason at the time, but Musk is a master of PR, so I guess he judged right. But, as I said in the previous thread, Trump is super salty that Musk stole his derangement syndrome, and is the one in the news every day instead of him. Plus it has to be extremely infuriating that Musk now owns Twitter, while no one cares about Truth social.

[Anonymous No.15462812]

>>15462805
>pour water on land
>it is now a wet land
checkmate EPA

[Anonymous No.15462814]

>>15462812
Hence the water deluge system

[Anonymous No.15462816]

>>15462810
Well Musk has defended Trump's right to speech and has invited him back. So Trump isn't too mad at Musk, if anything, Trump is weighting the options to go back to twitter or not because it has 300-400+ million users active vs his couple thousands

[Anonymous No.15462822]

>>15462816
Trump has some absurd contract with Truth (which is not entirely his company) that requires him to post anything on Truth first.
That said, he's probably waiting for the perfect moment to return to twitter unannounced. Late this year I think.

[Anonymous No.15462824]

>>15462791
only took them a fucking year. hopefully though they've cooled down on the cowboy approach. the brain it not to be trifled with.

[Anonymous No.15462827]

>>15462822
actually it doesn't
the contract says that if he posts something on Truth, he can't post it on some other social network for 6h
but if he posts it on Twitter first (or only twitter) then that doesn't apply
and it doesnt cover things like twitter spaces
this is according to some random people in a twitter space discussing the DeSantis presidential candidancy announcement, the person might have been someone in the trump or desantis campaign, don't remember exactly
the space was the mario something one
a dude that is supposedly going to start working for the trump campaign (or worked for it already) said that trump might do something with twitter soon

[Anonymous No.15462830]

>>15462816
That sounds like something you made up in you head. I've watched Trump speeches ever since he announced he's running for president. If people don't bow down to him, he's salty as fuck. And considering Musk just practically endorsed Desantis, he's probably infuriated. He's not on twitter out of spite.
As for Musk's decision to unban him, that's just Musk's great sense for PR. If Trump comes back to Twitter, that's more traffic and more ad money. If he doesn't, Desantis(Musk's candidate) easily wins. Win-win for Musk.

[Anonymous No.15462832]

>>15462827
>the contract says that if he posts something on Truth, he can't post it on some other social network for 6h
>but if he posts it on Twitter first (or only twitter) then that doesn't apply
Ok that makes a lot more sense

[Anonymous No.15462834]

>>15462830
>Musk just practically endorsed Desantis
Did he though?

[Anonymous No.15462836]

>>15462834
Listen to the spaces livestream

[Anonymous No.15462838]

>>15462812
That was basically the prior standard for defining federally regulated wetlands. Now it has to be contiguous with a navigable waterway... so Starbase being on a Gulf coast beach means they're still impacted.

[Anonymous No.15462840]

>>15462834
NTA, but Musk endorsed DeSantis long time ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBNE7j-vfak

[Anonymous No.15462846]

>>15462830
>If he doesn't, Desantis(Musk's candidate) easily wins.
trumps inter party percentage is easily in the lower 60s. Desantis is not going to get the nomination dude

[Anonymous No.15462851]

>>15462846
I want to see some primary debates first before making bold claims. Trump won the ones in 2016 because he was an outsider running against career politicians with past failures. Now he is one. The reason I'm hoping Desantis wins, is because being a Florida governor, he is at least interest a bit in space, unlike Trump who only cares about his image.

[Anonymous No.15462860]

>>15462851
Trump has been unable to deliver his promises, thats his problem. Meanwhile DeSantis is hitting the ball left and right, one homerun after another. Thats Trumps' biggest weakness.

[Anonymous No.15462877]

>>15462860
That's what I'm thinking.

[Anonymous No.15462918]

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/stratolaunch-expands-fleet-with-virgin-orbits-modified-boeing-747-301834904.html

[Anonymous No.15462919]

Was busy prepping for and taking an exam today, whats happened in the world of spaceflight today?

[Anonymous No.15462925]

>>15462919
South Korea launched its rocket and more SLS cost overruns

[Anonymous No.15462930]

>>15462836
No.

[Anonymous No.15462933]

>>15462919
>>15462925
also Rocket Lab might launch a pair of TROPICS weather satellites in a few hours, if weather permits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhuJsjQH8fU

(pretty busy, with a launch a day for the next week.)

[Anonymous No.15462934]

>>15462918
damn... stratolaunch graphics design SUCKS

[Anonymous No.15462980]

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1661877304698519553

1hr long interview

[Anonymous No.15462990]

>>15462638
sexo

[Anonymous No.15463056]

>>15462918
This makes a lot more sense then dropping the same payload off of that monster plane they've got

[Anonymous No.15463102]

Possible Starship HLS piece spotted, either way its got a shit ton of weird cutouts that indicate SOMETHING interesting is coming. This piece went to midbay, and credit to ths Ring Watchers

[Anonymous No.15463105]

Zoom out

[Anonymous No.15463132]

>>15463102
>>15463105
how much of the work on HLS is rings and how much is all the electronics and life support and all the other internals?

[Anonymous No.15463135]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1661864366164287488

[Anonymous No.15463150]

>>15463105
Ah good, my cock ring is here.

[Anonymous No.15463154]

>>15463135
Dragon 1 is utilitarian and comfy

[Anonymous No.15463250]

Tropics Launch stream is live:
>>15462933

[Anonymous No.15463251]

Clear Live!
Electron Coming to a Storm Near You Mission
Launch Site: Rocket Lab Launch Complex 1 Pad B, Māhia Peninsula, New Zealand
Launch Vehicle: Electron
Payload: 2x TROPICS satellites
Target: Low Earth Orbit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s10-qbEh0Qo

[Anonymous No.15463255]

wait electron can only carry a pair of 1 foot long cube sats? smallsat launchers fucking blow

[Anonymous No.15463257]

gorgeous launch site

[Anonymous No.15463259]

>>15463255
It is the worst fucking rocket ever, literally 600 pounds only per rocket. Thats not even 1/3 of a ton

[Anonymous No.15463266]

>>15463257
right? beautiful cliffs and rolling grasslands, minimal infrastructure to ruin the view (unlike close second Tanegashima). Is there any more picturesque launch site?

[Anonymous No.15463268]

some kino views there

[Anonymous No.15463272]

to the guy earlier saying there was a record 20 people in space; vg only did 81kms lmao

[Anonymous No.15463273]

[Anonymous No.15463277]

love this wacky steep trajectory

[Anonymous No.15463279]

reminder that Astra fucked up so hard NASA yoinked tropics from em

[Anonymous No.15463281]

>>15463266
Quite like the nip launch site as well. Where the cameras are positioned at launches, we get those nice views of the cliffs and sandy beach.

[Anonymous No.15463283]

batteries into the ocean

[Anonymous No.15463285]

>>15463283
throwing rocket batteries in the ocean, a safe and legal thrill

[Anonymous No.15463286]

>>15463279
It is worse than that. NASA only took the launch from them once Astra retired their Rocket 3. There is a statement from NASA, just after the first failed launch, stating that Astra will still launch the other satellites, as initially planned.

[Anonymous No.15463287]

Based Rocket Lab saving the lives of millions of people

[Anonymous No.15463288]

damn it sure cools off in a hurry

[Anonymous No.15463292]

4ASS debut rocket when?

[Anonymous No.15463310]

>>15463279
lol it used to have six satellites in the logo
I knew the plain "TROPICS" on the fairing felt off

[Anonymous No.15463312]

AOS imminent

[Anonymous No.15463315]

wow I'm glad all four tropics satellites were deployed

[Anonymous No.15463319]

>>15463315
I'm glad all four(6) satellites were put into orbit

[Anonymous No.15463322]

fuck why did RL's feed have to cut out early, we need this in high resolution

[Anonymous No.15463352]

>>15462851
>because being a Florida governor, he is at least interest a bit in space
Oh please. Then post proof of his genuine interest of space.

Otherwise he's just a politician who only cares about their image, like you say Trump does.

Trump was great for space, especially for nuclear.

[Anonymous No.15463380]

>>15462228
to be truly kino they needed to have it fly to tropical islands

[Anonymous No.15463420]

>>15463380
ive only now just realised concord was a tax payer funded flying hs2 for elite nonces

[Anonymous No.15463425]

>>15463352
Trump was happy to take all the credit for Obama's commercial spaceflight policy and SpaceX
>especially for nuclear
refer to pic rel

[Anonymous No.15463429]

Expendable planets (and their populations). SpaceX should become an independent government when they have the Mars colony set up and wage interplanetary wars for full hegemony of Mars and beyond. Terrans can keep Venus, Mercury and the Moon

[Anonymous No.15463436]

[Anonymous No.15463441]

>>15463429
>Terrans can keep Venus, Mercury and the Moon
Are you fucking insane
Moon and Mercury are the treasure boxes of the solar system
Loaded with easily accessible metals and minerals in shallow gravity wells. Even Venus has its uses.
You want Mars to subsist on the scraps of the Belt and dig deep into the bottomless gravity wells of the gas giant just to come up with a handful of ice.
You sound like an Earther spy

[Anonymous No.15463459]

>>15463441
>even Venus has it's uses
What, are we gonna spend half an eon terraforming the fucking thing while sitting in the useless clouds?? Mercury also takes a fuck ton of fuel to get to and back, just because it has metal doesnt mean its worth fucking anything. Its hot as shit, no atmosphere, hard to get anything there and off, and its in a strategically disadvantageous position if your society exists on Mars. Theres only so many fucking trajectories to get to Mercury from Mars, it's easily interceptable and you probably have to pass by Erf, which is fucking suicide. Titan has a massive reservoir of fuel, the asteroid belt also has a fuck ton of metal THAT IS ACTUALLY EASILY ACCESIBLE (its not scraps, look at Vesta). Europa has more than enough water-ice to extract for a massive population and any other products that need oxygen or hydrogen, and if you have the rest of the solar system to mess with, you can set up outposts EVERYWHERE and fuck over Erf eventually by bottlenecking their reach

[Anonymous No.15463485]

>>15463459
>Erf
This is how you can spot Earthers - they carefully avoid using the actual word "Earth (derogatory)"

[Anonymous No.15463493]

>>15463485
>literal schizoposting
I denounce any environmentalist movements and actions, SpaceX will succeed and get us off this planet, anything impeding the companies progress should be paved right over including Earthers, the EPA, and the FAA. Happy now? Go fuck yourself schizo, you dont even try to present counterpoints after I RYNO'd your points.

[Anonymous No.15463498]

*urf

[Anonymous No.15463502]

>>15463493
>But call him an Earther, and watch how he recoils - "I've been found out!"

[Anonymous No.15463504]

MECO

[Anonymous No.15463505]

>>15462554
suspicious. Why publish this now? Contracts for solid boosters are being signed for 9 years in the future, they won't be able to feasibly keep up the rate of pork distribution this way. Maybe someone wants to cancel SLS because pork rate can only decrease from here. Budget man comes in and cancels artemis, it's restarted as a more ambitious (expensive) project and the pork keeps flowing until another cancellation.

[Anonymous No.15463507]

Staging

>>15463506
>>15463506
>>15463506

[Anonymous No.15463511]

>>15463505
don't they publish these regularly?