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LOOP edition

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>> No.15460079
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First Korean launch this year is net for tomorrow morning

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>> No.15460086

TED (total earther death)

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How do you rate the x 15?

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First for total US LEO domination

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I had another Dream Chaser dream.

>> No.15460096

ERROR: Your DSN account has been banned for hatespeech. Continuous violation of FCC accord may result in authorization of deadly railgun force

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>> No.15460104

Where is Gravitics or ThinkOrbital?

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>> No.15460108

There are no concrete plans for their own stations, atm they are just building modules but the ones in that list have funding/concrete plans. I think Gravitics will build something though

>> No.15460113

Had the dream I domed someone with my ar10 outside my house again. quintessentially american

>> No.15460114

I wonder if all these newspace companies like, axiom, gravitics, vast, thinkorbital could build some integrated abomination of a station with random bits and pieces just thrown together, a bit like ISS but completely private

>> No.15460115

Progress docking

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>> No.15460123

I just want to clarify a few leftovers from the previous thread.
1. A cold gas thruster expels gases just through pressure. What the one anon was describing is closer to thermoelectric propulsion, where a heating coil is used to impart energy to the propellant before ejecting it.
2. "Why don't we just burn methane without an oxidizer?" Methane always needs oxygen to burn. It'll burn at ground level on Earth because there's oxygen in the atmosphere, but that won't work in space. And even on Earth, the amount of oxygen in the air isn't nearly enough for the amount of methane we need to burn, so we're still stuck bringing our own oxygen to the party.

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>> No.15460127

Buonasera /sfg/

>> No.15460132

orbital fulfilment centers

>> No.15460133

"A New Life awaits you in the off world fulfillment centers!"

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Vast will succeed in becoming the SpaceX of space stations

>> No.15460150

>meanwhile in the /sfg/ station...

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>> No.15460152

I like how the Haven-1 is the most believable of those space stations as it's just a tube with solar panels stuck on the side that all fits on top of a Falcon 9.

>> No.15460153

who blocked the shitter again

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>> No.15460158

I'll believe it when I see some hardware

>> No.15460161

gay sex in space

>> No.15460162

it's already built lol

>> No.15460165

cool, may I see it?

>> No.15460167

This is an unacceptable design. How are we supposed to funnel development money for corporate welfare if everything is simple and easy to make? I suggest we switch over to a Shuttle-derived plan. The parts are well understood after decades of proven safe operation, already in production in all 50 states, and can pay for more jobs in our representative areas. I already have the Senate bill drafted.

>> No.15460168

bro what if we kissed in the coupla? wouldnt it be so cool to make out while the earth spins under us?

>> No.15460170

meant cupola

>> No.15460173

the first cosmic bumming already happened on apollo 13

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>> No.15460188

If anything, oldspace would rejoice of the ISS gets trashed. More money for them to make another one.

>> No.15460190

one of the first commercial space stations will be used solely for filming porn and yes you can imagine the smell

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Someone say GEX?

>> No.15460195

I mean, wouldn't you do it with your crewmate if you thought you were going to die drifting in space far from home?

>> No.15460201

is my crew mate sandra bullock?

>> No.15460203

No. Its George Clooney.

>> No.15460207

then its one small step for man, one giant stretch for clooneys asshole

>> No.15460208

no anon, If it's particularly grim I might give a firm handshake though.

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Just depressurize and let raw UV light in and the fuck pods will be showroom fresh again

>> No.15460239

You'd be bogged down by committee. A single entity can change the direction of the structure at the speed of thought, where as multiple companies = multiple meetings, thoughts, agreements, etc

The point is to have least friction as possible for building infrastructure.

>> No.15460245

gangbanging anon's gf

>> No.15460265

Shenzhou getting upgrades. Looks like the new control panel frees up a lot of space.


>> No.15460268


RIP Virgin Galactic

>> No.15460271

Whats the old one like for comparison?

>> No.15460273

Remember that guy from last thread who didn't know what gravity tractor means and thought it was like a star wars tractor beam?

>> No.15460274

About time
As soon as ISS ends something better can replace it. Wonder if any of these commercial space stations have plans to work to gather at least to start out like Axiom and ISS.

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previous thread had a few articles about this already (foust and sheetz)
they didn't really have opinion pieces like this article does though

> No, the problem was Virgin Orbit's management, including Chief Executive Officer Dan Hart and its founder, Sir Richard Branson. Due to their leadership, the company had a terrible, unsupportable business plan and compounded those issues by hiring an unsustainable workforce of 700 people.

> This business ran fairly lean until Virgin Orbit was separated from its parent company in 2017, and Branson hired Hart, who had spent decades as a system engineer at Boeing’s Space division as its president. Hart instituted a more cautious approach and began staffing up the company. A planned first launch in 2018 was delayed by more than two years.

> When LauncherOne finally took flight for the first time in May 2020, the company had spent a staggering amount of money, nearly $1 billion, developing the rocket and air-launch system. It was clear at the time that Virgin Orbit was never going to make that money back by charging $12 million to $15 million to launch a few hundred kilograms per mission.

holy fucking shit, SpaceX has used like 3 bil on Starship

> There clearly was no market for this, and even reaching such a cadence would have required several years. Rocket Lab, which has a proven, similarly sized vehicle in Electron, is only seeing a demand for about a dozen flights per year to dedicated orbits. SpaceX, with its Transporter rideshare missions, was also eating into Virgin Orbit's market. The business case simply did not close.

>> No.15460277

could some inform our government who shovelled millions into the spaceport with only one untested launcher

>> No.15460281

>This business ran fairly lean until Virgin Orbit was separated from its parent company in 2017, and Branson hired Hart, who had spent decades as a system engineer at Boeing’s Space division as its president
there it is

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> GITAI founder and CEO Sho Nakanose said the funds would support efforts to develop a lunar rover and a two-meter-long Inchworm robotic arm.
> In a simulated lunar environment near the western edge of the Mojave Desert in California, the venture said it used two rovers and two Inchworms in March to emulate tasks needed to build a base on the moon and explore its surface.
> The demonstrations included excavation, solar panel and antenna installation, welding, towing an inflatable module, and changing one of the rover’s tires.


>> No.15460289

Why is boing management so shitty?

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There's hardly any interior shots that aren't looking down through the hatch, but here's an old one from Shenzhou 5.

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> Astranis’ is one of a number of next generation broadband satellite systems in development, as companies race to meet a growing global demand for data – including SpaceX’s Starlink, British-owned OneWeb, Amazon’s Project Kuiper, AST SpaceMobile and others.

> But the company’s approach is the “third way” to providing broadband service from space, Gedmark explained. The company’s dishwasher-sized satellite combines the small form factor of satellites like SpaceX’s Starlink in low Earth orbit with the distant, geosynchronous orbit of traditional players like Viasat
> Arcturus is a fraction of the size and cost of traditional GEO satellites.

> “We can build these satellites very quickly compared to what has come before,” Gedmark said.

>> No.15460295

>Hart instituted a more cautious approach and began staffing up the company. A planned first launch in 2018 was delayed by more than two years.
>It also seemed fairly obvious that, with the large workforce Hart hired, Virgin Orbit was not going to break even. The company's human resources bill alone was likely about $150 million per year, and that did not include facilities, leases, equipment, and hardware costs.
lol even

>> No.15460302

>a more cautious approach

>> No.15460304

The article asks "why not" to which the answer seems obvious, geostationary internet satellites are nothing new, and they are late to the game. A better question would be how can this company beat the competition. Maybe their small size makes them more agile than the big players in Geo but I don't see how they would compete with starlink especially since they are relying on SpaceX for launch services. My only guess is they are angling for some government grant that SpaceX was passed over for due to politics.

>> No.15460305

The main problem though is that most of the life support systems is handled by the dragon docked to it. So is it even reusable?

>> No.15460309

>Tries to be oldspace without the government pork
Yeah that went as expected.

>> No.15460310

I wouldn't say hiring fuckloads of people and blowing through 1bil is really cautious
sounds like wasting of money without actual results, blowing stuff up during testing is probably way, way cheaper like spacex shows
space grade 100x the cost vs just conventional off the shelf shit

>> No.15460312

this article >>15460294 mentioned that the customers are going to be businesses and schools and stuff like that, but even then i don't really see how they can compete when starlinks constellation gets filled out

>> No.15460319

Thats more advanced/modern than Space Shuttle was, but vastly less advanced than the Crew Dragon. >>15460265 the newest streamlined is still less advanced than Crew Dragon, but I suppose they're ~10 years behind now instead of ~20-30 years behind.

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Based, everything Branson must burn

>> No.15460330

So was NASA fucked in the head thinking a 100% O2 environment would be safe?

>> No.15460331

Virgin Galactic is separate from Virgin Orbit. Virgin Galactic still exists.

>> No.15460343

>Virgin Galactic still exists
For how long?

>> No.15460349

Two weeks

>> No.15460350

they still have that fuckhuge plane? build a cargo pod and do what the anotov did before the russians bombed it.

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> Pluto is ranked with real planets on the Pioneer plaque
How do we fix this?

>> No.15460355

ayys will have a very problematic and racist view of human kind, i suggest a multi trillion dollar program to go and replace the plaque with something more in keeping with the third decade of the 21st century

>> No.15460356

Maybe their internet is slower, but cheaper?

>> No.15460360

see what

>> No.15460364

the hardware. Where is it? I've seen the renders, where is the hardware.

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>> No.15460373

Branson cashed out and made big money

>> No.15460374

As a euro who hates the frogs and italian jews for eating up most of ESA's budget in return for subpar rockets i really wonder how they think to get that thing off the ground?

>> No.15460376

If he had Bezos money he would have survived. Blue origin survived off of Bezos pocket money

>> No.15460377

possible I guess
its also extra redundancy if starlink goes down for one reason or another

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Because bezos wants it to be his legacy, he wants in 50 years when he is dead to have people talk about him as the "rocketman" or some shit, not the hyperjew who put his workers in cuckcages for minimum wage.

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>> No.15460387

You've seen the renders. We're building the powerpoint. We have all the CAD models done, ready to be 3d-printed

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>> No.15460391

>a mexican will have to roller paint the olm after every launch
>this will be the bottleneck to interplanetary colonisation

>> No.15460392

>spend a bunch of money to avoid spending more money on paying higher wages
Peak retardation.

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these gridfins are pretty big

>> No.15460409

You just know CSS actually believes this

>> No.15460412

"responsive space" "dedicated orbits" company dies.
many such cases.

>> No.15460428

expendable launchpads

>> No.15460429

Expendable mexicans

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>> No.15460432

expendable planets

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replying to the erryday post

>> No.15460437

csi starbase is better

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>> No.15460449

>Payload of 250-300 tons to LEO
The entire industry absolutely MOGGED lmao, it was that easy in rocketry

>> No.15460451

>250-300 tons to LEO
when he says that that means it's 200 marginally

>> No.15460453

Emoji rights should be taken away from anyone 30 or older

>> No.15460456

pickle rick

>> No.15460458

Also the first "real" korean launch, no dummy this time

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>> No.15460460

That was already known. But the bigger threat is the 150+ ton in RAPID reusable mode. Imagine 150+ ton every week, every day, every few hours.

>> No.15460465

I miss the ITS, imagine 500-600 tons in expendable mode.

>> No.15460468

18m ss by 2040

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>> No.15460474

Nah, Musk is a cuck and he backtracked that. He prefers smaller ships. I can't find the tweet where he said that in hindsight they should've gone with less than 9m. At least it's big enough that they can follow it with orbital construction.

>> No.15460475

its not about preference, but iteration and build speed
musk cares about speed

>> No.15460476

Reminder that 18m Starship would be 240m tall.
They would preserve the fineness ratio.

>> No.15460478

THREE. FUCKING. HUNDRED. TONS. Just wait until later years where they start to cut down on unnecessary equipment, we could probably get to 250 tons reusable and 400 tons expendable, but thats a few decades down the line (or on any other astral body but Erf)

>> No.15460480

as the biggest technical challenges atm are getting raptors to work as reliably as merlins and stopping the planet disintegrating around the exhaust plume an 18m variant seems plausible in the medium term.

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another shitty computer generated image.

>> No.15460486

Kys faggot

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>> No.15460489

>thrust scales with the square of radius
>wet mass scales with the square of radius
yeah no it would be chodeship.

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>Imagine 150+ ton every week, every day, every few hours.
Now imagine somewhere that will put up with that yuuuge noise pollution every week, every day, every few hours.

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>> No.15460495

back to sea launching or building a launch complex on an atoll

>> No.15460496

he's right though
too many renders
not enough hardware

>> No.15460498

At least the property near the starbase will be affordable to the average American in a couple of years.

>> No.15460504

>sea launching
Good fucking luck getting a launch license for that lmao, thousands of man-hours would have to be spent so that specialized marine biologists can measure all kind of disturbance to the poor fisherinos.

>> No.15460507

Wasn’t there news about ESA wanting to do a resupply vehicle? Can’t find it

>> No.15460516

there has to be somewhere on earth so mundane and void of interesting flora and fauna that a multi day launch cadence wouldn't cause the collapse of some eco system

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>crane and megabay parts shipped from LC-39A to Starbase
Remember when people were saying that Starbase would become R&D facility while LC-39A would support commercial and government launches? Now the construction works at the latter had pretty much came to a halt.

>> No.15460519

Imagine being able to ship something like a D11 Caterpillar to the Moon.

>> No.15460525

resupplying what?

>> No.15460526

More like avoid spending money on higher wages so you can spend money on rockets (and yachts).

>> No.15460527

Nigger tier behavior

>> No.15460528

what rockets?

>> No.15460540

Geniunely curious, what does /sfg/ think of Vast? I keep seeing a few people saying they are serious players, but I thought we should wait and see whether they stay on target or not

>> No.15460541

Yes, it's called Boca Chica. And even schizo enviros call that place a "pristine and unique" wildlife refuge. Say if for some reason SpaceX were able to move their launch site to the middle of Antarctica, Death Valley, or point Nemo in the fucking Pacific Ocean, there's still would be lots of complaints. There's literally no other place on Earth.

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This is basically Branson gifting Beck a factory
so I guess the venture wasn't completely pointless

>> No.15460547

Where are my engines, Jeff?

>> No.15460548

>helping any company except SpaceX isnt completely pointless
Do you also think Jarvis will be made and launched?

>> No.15460552

maybe, kind of doubt it
but Rocketlab is actually doing shit unlike BO

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>> No.15460559

you mean neutron?

>> No.15460561

A single module station with very conservative capabilities that can fit on top of a Falcon 9 is a lot more realistic than any of the other commercial destinations that had been proposed.

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>> No.15460568

Do they have anything in orbit yet? If not, they are a meme company.

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Virgin Orbit wont stream their flight on Thursday, ffs

>> No.15460586

>BO is a meme company
NASA just decided to pay BO 3.5 billion. You can be a serious newspace company w/o putting anything in orbit.

>> No.15460587

there is nothing complicated about sub 10km diametre space stations, sea going ship building is more complex and the cost/perceivedcomplexity is due to launch ability and mass autism. prove me wrong.

>> No.15460602

If you’ve been following this sector for the past 5-ish years it should be clear that any company that pops up out of seemingly nowhere and promises great things is, in fact, not going to make it in the long run. The only exception to this I can think of is Axiom… for now

>> No.15460606

lol, how nervous are they if they can't even livestream the thing?

>> No.15460610

I think that is kind of the point, proving that space stations modules don't have to cost 5 gorillion a piece or whatever retarded sum the modules on ISS got built with

>> No.15460631

a modular space station section is a very low pressure pressure vessel with 2 to 3 sealable bulkheads and either shared/semi independent/independent life support systems and lifeboats depending on your risk tolerance. it basically a basic bitch ship compartment that has to undergo none of the stresses an urf ship has to outside of the launch (a thing we currently do with sensitive electronics). the naysayers are the same types decrying first stage landing as impossible 10 years ago.

>> No.15460632

You got it wrong. BO is not a meme company, they are a grift company like Boing

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not sure if they are going to talk about space though and its musk interviewing desantis
I guess he could ask about space

>> No.15460660

Pretty shit grift then. How much money has Bezos sunk into BO? He'd have more by just investing it.

>> No.15460663

>musk interviewing
we're gonna have some major spaghetti spillage

>> No.15460665

Politicians don't care about space.

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>> No.15460672

Is it actually an interview, I thought he was just hosting DeSantis' presidential thingy.
Anyway I doubt it'll have anything to do with space, the average US citizen doesn't give a fuck about space.

>> No.15460673

Where is my starship launch, Elon?

>> No.15460676

thats how it was described in yesterdays interview of musk by WSJ
David Sacks is going to be a moderator or something

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>> No.15460695

Bob Smith is grifting Bezos as well

>> No.15460715

Bob Smith is not a real person.

>> No.15460743

>enter the Airbus LOOP attached to the ISS
>mfw it calls me a retard as it loses orbit and descends into the earth

>> No.15460758

He was real in my nightmares

>> No.15460776

Why do they always stick them on those exercise bikes? That doesn't give you gainz

>> No.15460783

Why is Elon getting sidetracked with politics? It seems like none of his moves are even remotely business related when doing these

>> No.15460786

For a gravity tractor to work you need a much heavier probe than anything we can put next to an asteroid, and you need highly efficient ion thrusters, better than what we have now. A far better use of craft mass is as a direct impactor.

>> No.15460789

its about promoting twitter as a platform

>> No.15460792

The plaque never launched. It was just a meme

>> No.15460802

Ah no thats actually a really good idea if hes looking to make Twitter not a shit investment

>> No.15460812

All his increased shitposting and dumb "controversies" he's talking about on twitter, ever since he bought it was for that purpose. He's monetizing the derangement syndrome.

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>> No.15460836

>Preparing to launch
haha funny, now launch the fucking rocket

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>> No.15460860

>Sounds like we may see a Vulcan hotfire on Thursday!
OH NO NO, SpaceXbros, we got too cocky

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>> No.15460883

He did

>> No.15460913

If BE-4 works as advertised and they can produce them quickly then BO is redeemed in my view.

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>> No.15460918

If its not about space I dont care

>> No.15460919

>going with an outwardly fascist authoritarian candidate

>> No.15460922

Shut the fuck up about politics

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>> No.15460930

Clean it up jannies

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you have to be fruity to begin with to get a hard on for some other dudes hairy and shitty asshole. That, the cold and the fact they were not russians means that apollo 13 ass pirate incident is a complete myth

>> No.15460934

oh God, we're 1 minute in and it's already boomer cringe

>> No.15460935

Fuck off

>> No.15460938

Embarassing lol

>> No.15460941

god damn what a shitshow
445k listeners now

>> No.15460942

Cant handle 400K people at same time, server overloads

>> No.15460945

>Elon is the smartest person alive

>> No.15460946

Tesla and Neuralink streams were allowed tho

>> No.15460947
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Lord he's not gonna shut up is he...
Nobody gives a fuck

>> No.15460950

>can't handle a voice livestream
>promises to colonize Mars
lmao even

>> No.15460956

They shouldnt have been.

>> No.15460968


Up again.

>> No.15460971

>there are only two genders
what were they thinking? aliens will kill us all if they come here and everyone is trans

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We were robbed / 10

>> No.15461014

calm down, muskrat

>> No.15461018

He's right about Rocket Lab not being in a good spot, competitively: Electron's success is effectively dependent on Starship's failure, and Electron income is too low to cover the cost of Rocket Labs' operations even without Neutron development on the books.

>> No.15461026

rocketlab can probably survive off of their main business. They've also got that hypersonic missile thing coming up. But yeah, small/medium launch might not end up well for them.

>> No.15461031

Seeing a lot of cope out of the Trump camp that crashing twitter spaces with 700k people wanting to listen to DeSantis is somehow a bad thing.

>> No.15461046

Desantis sounds like Elon if he were a politician. "Get it done", no regulations, lmao

>> No.15461051

Is there any candidate in USA that isn't a zionist?

>> No.15461052

It’s a moot point until launch costs decrease drastically. If you came up with a design for a 800 thousand dollar space station module that still has to go up on a 67 million dollar falcon 9 you’d get laughed out of every sales pitch you made.

>> No.15461058

Its a momentum that has grown over the hundreds of years. Presidential candidates need to cater to all sorts of people in the political line. DeSantis might be another "anti-Establishment" but in a fresh and more rational/coherent way with a straight forward plan. The no-nonsense method is sorta fresh in our politics. Trump tried the anti-Establishment route before, but he didn't have a clear plan and wasn't coherent/rational in his ways, so whatever his plans were, it got derailed.

>> No.15461070

Big beautiful walls for everyone.

>> No.15461072

what does it feel like to cum in zero g?

>> No.15461073

This, I didn't really understand how disgusting politics was until recently. There's no way to do things your way without pandering to some group or other that's already established, It's all a game of favors and blackmail, where playing dirty and stretching the rules is incentivized. Only way you clean the slate of all the parasites that were there before is a coup, otherwise they stay around forever.

>> No.15461083

How much does this actually help? Was Rocket Lab planning on building another, non-final production facility before this deal was made?

>> No.15461085

TROPICS scrubbed for the night, 24 hour delay

>> No.15461088
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Its impossible

>> No.15461090

Despite making up only 1 millionth of the earths mass, the atmosphere is responsible for 90+% of scroobs.
Really makes you think.

>> No.15461096

>weather satellite
>scrubbed for bad weather
the irony

>> No.15461109

Isn't the project literally fucked if they can't get them off soon?

>> No.15461157
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NASA and Roscosmos both literally encourage their astronauts to crank their hogs regularly


(No I don't know how or why this article exists on a website called latina.com)

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Polyakov be like

>> No.15461185


Interim Skylon when?

>> No.15461202

And now weather scrub for Falcon

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it kind of reminds me of skylab for some reason

>> No.15461224

because it is large and has multiple decks?

>> No.15461233

When you want to take a shit you do an ullage burn and shit directly into the waste tank.

>> No.15461247

"What are you going to do, quit? I hope you have your own ride home!"

>> No.15461254

Sniper platforms on the moon when?

>> No.15461257

late 70's science illustration asthetic ahhhhhh
untarnshed future
none of the things that are in issue now.

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space shots

>> No.15461271

SAR is such a meme kek

>> No.15461272
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Full Shot

>> No.15461277


Full link. you can even check other sites as well. There's a China picture thats ~ 1GB in file.

>> No.15461284

What was the optimistic timeline for this again? By how much does it best Gagarin?

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>Musk Ain't Gonna Need It

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>> No.15461338

/sfg/ on kuollut.

>> No.15461340

Lmao. Elon is such a dipshit. He better hope Biden wins. Trump will fucking absolutely blackball SpaceX. Half of the SCOTUS is in his pocket, so even if Elon tried to take the government to court, he'd lose. I can't believe I'd see the day where America's fortunes regarding the return to space were destroyed by terminally online.

>> No.15461341

Fucking based! Get Don back in there. make zionism cool again

>> No.15461342

Send ALL politicians to the SUN

>> No.15461349

/pol/cel heat shields when

>> No.15461353

How Engineers Designed The First Computer To Fly In Space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OylMmZ54e7M
Related are Curious Marc's video series on restoring Appollo and Soyuz various computer and communication equipment: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousMarc

>> No.15461362

When the capsule reentry takes place and the parachutes are deployed, why do they come out at an angle instead of straight from the top of the cone? Is there a reason for this?

>> No.15461366

I assume it's to catch air faster and ensure they fully expand. Capsules aren't dropping straight down either.

>> No.15461374

For multiple parachutes, the offset allows enough clearance between the canopies so they don't interfere with each other's deployment. Many single-parachute capsule designs do deploy from the tip of the cone. A good example of this would be the EDL stages of JPL's various Mars landers.

>> No.15461382

I think by a few months.

>> No.15461387

What the fuck are you on about? Why would Trump blackball SpaceX. He would have a lot to lose, and nothing to gain from it.

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Total Boeing Death

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They think one shitpost video involving an F9 outweighs all the times Trump personally supported SpaceX and their service to the American people.

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Trump fucking hates Elon because he's a west coast tech dweeb.

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>he's a west coast tech dweeb.
Elon is a proud Sask farmer

>> No.15461413

A few months after he posted this, he stated in some interview that he still likes Elon. Don't take his banter seriously, it's all for entertainment purposes.

>> No.15461421

Nigga, Elon bought Twitter at 44 billion dollars, just for shits and giggles.
He has massive space autism and you think he cares?

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Who's a west coast tech dweeb? He's a Texan now.

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Branson version

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>> No.15461432

He at least appreciated F9 boosters landing. Some public figures don't even realize it's happening to this day.

>> No.15461448

Second worst posts ever made to /sfg/ barring collagefag's tantrums where he samefags over and over

>> No.15461449

same reason why the save icon is 3.5in floppy

>> No.15461452

Corporate nonsense culture same with yoga mats and Xbox at room

>> No.15461480

I never noticed the trashcan is connected to the ex-LOx tank and that 1/3 of the station is delegated as a garbage dump
that has to be the most 60s, pre-environmentalism design choice I've ever seen
reminds me of the razorblade slots Americans had built into their walls at the time

>> No.15461492

it seems retarded but for Skylab at least I feel like it was a decent "minimum viable" solution. It is strikingly American to not even attempt to give a fuck about station longevity though, kek

>> No.15461510

Wanna know what the space bailbonds business is all about?

>> No.15461512

Dont make me samefag with your name again

>> No.15461527

my point was that virgin orbit used 1 bil on some smallsat meme launch and accomplished almost nothing, 3 bil is relatively nothing for Starship

>> No.15461551

I don't believe you ever did that.

>> No.15461565

When was the last a Falcon 9 failed to land?

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> While the launch of the first Mars mission may have slipped, the companies said at the conference that they are committed to flying a series of such commercial lander missions, creating what Josh Brost, senior vice president of revenue operations at Relativity, called a “constant supply chain to Mars.”

> That means flying missions at every launch opportunity, roughly two years apart. “We will take advantage of the window every 2.2 years and take at least one mission up,” said Barry Matsumori, chief operating officer of Impulse Space. He said the companies would offer a catalog of different payload options, “and that catalog will drive the missions we actually do.”

>They argued that having a frequent series of missions will enable new and lower cost science, including the ability to refly payloads. “By making transport to Mars more affordable, you open up that iteration loop that can lead to advancements that just could not have been envisioned previously,” said Brost.

> NASA has expressed an interest in eventually buying commercial services for Mars science missions. A draft robotic Mars exploration strategy released by NASA in March opened the door to acquire services for Mars science missions in a manner analogous to the Commercial Lunar Payload Services program of robotic lunar lander missions.

> That’s been a goal long associated with SpaceX and its founder, Elon Musk, who frequently talks about making humanity multiplanetary. “In the last several years, there’s really been one loud commercial voice talking about Mars,” Brost said, alluding to SpaceX. “But for Mars to really happen and be affordable and sustainable and all of those things, it doesn’t take one company. It takes dozens or hundreds. You need lots of different people working on different parts of the problem set.”

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> Virgin Galactic officials are targeting a takeoff time of 8 a.m. Mountain Time (10 a.m. EDT or 1400 GMT) on May 25 from Spaceport America for the Unity 25 mission. That is when we expect the company's WhiteKnightTwo carrier plane, called Eve, to take off from Spaceport America and begin its ascent to launch altitude.

> That takeoff time could change, as Virgin Galactic has said it is only when the window will open to start the flight. Virgin Galactic has a 9-hour window for Unity 25 operations on May 23, according to an FAA Notice To Airmen warning (NOTAM) for spacecraft recovery operations that begins at 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. EDT (1400-2300 GMT). It repeats on Friday, May 26, for the same hours, suggesting Virgin Galactic has at least one backup day for the flight.

so the target is to launch in about 5h, there will be no livestream but updates through twitter

>> No.15461607

I feel like 33 mill is just too little to do anythig with, like 1/3rd of that will go away when buying a ride to space. So only 2/3rds left to actual development and mission

>> No.15461608

> It's also unclear how much information Virgin Galactic will share in real time for the mission. In the past, Virgin Galactic has posted images of preflight, takeoff, mid-air launch and landing.

>However, a Virgin Galactic spokesperson did tell Space.com that the company plans to release details of the test fight, including images and video, after the flight. So we'll have to stay tuned for that.

>> No.15461610

those are still pretty early funding rounds
how much is a rideshare really? first you launch just a prototype and do that a few times, then get more funding hopefully when that works out
when you start actually building the constellation you need to get big funding

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The crew (passengers)

>> No.15461617

hahahaha, holy shit this must be a joke

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the pilots on the VSS Unity space plane

> Michael Masucci: Masucci will serve as Virgin Space Ship (VSS) Unity commander and has flown on multiple suborbital spaceflights with Virgin Galactic. His first trip to space was a 2019 test flight. He has flown on 80 different types of aircraft since 1982 and accrued more than 10,000 flight hours during his career.

> C.J. Sturckow: A former NASA astronaut and retired Marine Corps colonel, Sturckow is will serve as Unity's pilot and has flown on four NASA space shuttle missions to orbit, commanding two of them. He has flown on 65 different types of craft and has over 8.700 hours of flight experience. His first trip to space was on NASA's STS-88 mission in 1998, and he later flew on STS-105, STS-117 and STS-128 missions, leaving NASA in 2013. He first flew to suborbital space on Unity during a December 2018 test flight.

the pilots on the Virgin Mother Ship VMS Eve (normal plane)

> Jameel Janjua: Janjua, who will command the VMS Eve carrier plane during the Unity 25 flight, has been flying aircraft since 1995. He has flown on 60 different types of aircraft and accrued 4,800 hours of flight time during his career.

> Nicola Pecile: Pecile serves as VMS Eve pilot on the Unity 25 flight and has flown on 170 different aircraft since beginning his flying career in 1991. He has a total of 7,700 flight hours, according to Virgin Galactic.

>> No.15461623

South Korea's rocket is in flight

>> No.15461625


>> No.15461628
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the mission profile

>The flight begins at takeoff, with SpaceShipTwo Unity tucked beneath its VMS Eve mothership and attached to a pylon in between the carrier plane's twin booms. Eve will fly SpaceShipTwo up to an altitude of 50,000 feet (15,000 meters), where it will drop the Unity space plane and pull away to a safe distance.

>Aboard Unity, Massucci and Sturckow will ignite the space plane's hybrid rocket motor and ascend into space, reaching an altitude of at least 50 miles (80 kilometers), which the FAA and U.S. military have recognized as the boundary of space.

>At the peak of the flight, Unity and its crew will experience about four minutes of weightlessness, at which time the Gilbert, Huie, Mays and Moses can exit their seats, float about the cabin and look at Earth through Unity's large round windows.

>After those four minutes are over, the passengers will strap back into their seats for the return to Earth, with Massucci and Sturckow relying on a unique "feathering" system that folds its twin tail booms back and up like a shuttlecock to stabilize Unity during reentry. The space plane will then make a runway landing at Spaceport America to end the flight.

>> No.15461629

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEAjHv7S9FM They're just showing replays

>> No.15461631

thanks, pretty cool.

>> No.15461642

>wake up
>starship is now 300 tons to LEO
we're going 500 tons with raptor 3

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>A Titan Sample Return Using In-Situ Propellants is a proposed Titan sample return mission using in-situ volatile propellants available on its surface. This approach for Titan is very different from all conventional in-situ resource utilization concepts, and will accomplish a return of great science value toward planetary science, astrobiology, and understanding the origin of life, that is an order of magnitude more difficult (in distance and ∆V) than other sample return missions.

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>17 year odyssee

>> No.15461656

wait 300 tons reusable?

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>> No.15461663

its about this >>15460436

>Starship payload 250 to 300 tons to orbit in expendable mode
>Improved thrust & Isp from Raptor will enable ~6000 ton liftoff mass

>> No.15461664

It's terrifying to see dates such as these and realizing you'll be an old fuck near the current average lifespan and just for some sample returns, probably never going to see any meaningful human space exploration

>> No.15461667

That's only 33 years away. Don't tell me you're already over 20 years old?

>> No.15461669

this is why we need to stop with all of these one off missions. we need to start establishing presences instead of short visits.

>> No.15461672

None of these one off missions are going to happen. It'll be full manned presence in force or nothing.

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>> No.15461680

I hope that one day some boomer engineer on a NASA livestream forgets that it's changed and keeps saying manned, making everyone in the stream squirm uncomfortably.

>> No.15461694

Anonymous flights when? If I had the cash and wanted to go into space, I would prefer a private trip.

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>Inspired in Charles Pellegrino's 'Project Valkyrie' of a lightweight antimatter spaceship built from super strong tethers and the vital components

>> No.15461740

we should be at 100 launches this year. other organizations are slacking. pick up the pace, there's lots of stuff needing to be launched.

>> No.15461743

I think all of these people are employees still

>> No.15461789

>my stupid oxidizer question yesterday doesn’t make the short list
Almost relieved…

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>not enough hardware
based opinion

>> No.15461802

>SAR is such a meme kek
Why is SAR a meme? Explain your reasoning.

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Ah that's nothing, /sfg/ anons have dismissed QED as a mush mind pop sci meme

>> No.15461815

he is a retard that doesn't understand how magically bullshit SAR is

>> No.15461816

>you will eat the bugs
>you will exercise in the pod

>> No.15461820

Branson seems like an idiot chud that just got lucky with one thing in the past that made him wealthy and famous. key word, lucky.
since then he's been high on his own bullshit and thinks he's actually some kind of genius but he's not.
it's like Gates and Kurzweil, and a few others

>> No.15461824

why did they fall out

>> No.15461829

Who knows, trump just decided he didn't like him one day.

>> No.15461832

>and a few others

>> No.15461839

csi starbase is literally black

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>> No.15461850

>I thought we should wait and see whether they stay on target or not
An opinion like this without any stakes or decision involved is functionally meaningless on top of being bad analysis.

What risk are you trying to prevent by waiting? The cost of a temporarily wrong opinion? ($0)

>> No.15461860

You can tell an author is getting lazy when he forgets to replace the obvious placeholder names like Bob Smith.

>> No.15461862

bring your explosion viewing glasses

>> No.15461863

It's to balance out the weird unrealistic names like Elon Musk.

>> No.15461864

>three times a week
who the fuck did they survey?

>> No.15461887

People older than 18 are men too.

>> No.15461890

I think after a certain point you get so “rich” that you can go broke on paper, but still have multiple huge houses and yachts and stuff. Like after a certain point it becomes less about how much literal cash you actually have in a bank account and more about stocks, assets, etc. I don’t understand it. It just seems to work that way though

>> No.15461893

Here’s an opinion for you: their first product is much more realistic than other space station producers, many of whom are planning on sending up hardware on rockets that do not exist. However they have a dumb monetization strategy, and it’s going to be hard to find enough people who can afford a ticket on a dragon capsule to stay in business doing only space tourism. Theres also a good chance they run into one roadblock they can’t get past while working up to their first module and never launch anything.

>> No.15461903

New Eric Hamburger article about the implications of NASA picking two fully reusable moon landers.


>> No.15461906

They should give that old Saturn rocket to us and let 4ASS shoulder the cost of refurb and launch.

>> No.15461910

not really sure how much of these are just /pol/ schizo ramblings and how representative they are of Trumps views or Trumps bases views, but I have a couple of ideas:
1) musk said he voted for biden (even though obviously he doesnt support biden anymore) instead of trump
2) a lot of the /pol/ conspiracy theorists seem to think Musk is somekind of deep state/government plant that is used to filter alien tech or whatever they have already done out to the public
3) he is seen as a silicon valley "techbro", which tend to be widely disliked at this point both by leftists and people on the right for different reasons
4) perhaps seen still as part of the coastal elite or something?
5) electric cars are thought of us expensive luxury items, shit that enviromentalists buy or california people (the reality is that model 3 cost of ownership over 5 years is similar to a new toyota corolla now)

>> No.15461916

so it's just /pol/ being schizophrenic and contrarian again? Cool.

>> No.15461920

he is probably a competent businessman, just not a very technical person so really no way to reliably ascertain if an idea is good or not and refers to some trusted "expert" like the dude he recruited from boeing to run the company
similarly to Bigelow, understands how to develop and run hotels, absolutely no technical knowledge
and really, who has ever seen Branson as some kind of genius? the media tried to paint Musk, Bezos and Branson as having somekind of space race going on, also pretty much having no technical knowledge of the situation, probably doing it for clicks
and something I often see is an article about talking about advancements in space (or perhaps some other area) and a bunch of companies are named, usually SpaceX with random other ones peppered in
I think a big reason this is done is to seem somehow more objective, but it might be just due to generally not knowing much about the subject


> At age 12, Bigelow decided that his future lay in space travel. Despite his limitations in mathematics, he resolved to choose a career that would make him rich enough that, one day, he could hire the scientific expertise required to launch his own space program.[8]

> He enrolled in the University of Nevada, Reno, in 1962 to study banking and real estate, and he graduated from Arizona State University in 1967.[8]

>> No.15461925

Pretty much. Trump has directly said at rallies he wants people to have the choice to buy electric cars if they want to, just not be forced. You may notice this is identical to his stance on the COVID-19 vaccine. /pol/ is full of autists and schizos that can't handle that sort of nuanced take which is why so many of them felt betrayed when Trump didn't immediately start throwing Mexicans into wood chippers on his first day of office.

>> No.15461929

thats only one of the options, I think Trumps base is bigger than just /pol/

but to add to this >>15461910
- Musk was on Trumps science advisory or something similar and quit due to Trump saying something like climate change isn't a thing
- it could just be trump shitposting
- musk isn't 100% antivax so there are still people on the right that criticize him for that
- he is seen as some kind of WEF plant or something (similar to the /pol/ alien tech conspiracy)

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> For pretty much the entire history of spaceflight, humans have tried to brute force things. It took a rocket to put a small satellite into space. It took a bigger rocket to launch humans. And it took the humongous Saturn V launch vehicle to ultimately put two humans on the surface of the Moon. The plan was always to pack everything needed for a mission—including propellant—onto a single rocket.

> Large rockets can also be incredibly expensive. For example, NASA's Space Launch System rocket alone costs more than $2.75 billion per launch, and that doesn't include the price of a payload.

>The solution to this problem involves several steps. The first is distributed launch. Two Falcon Heavy rockets, or four Falcon 9 rockets, can launch as much mass as NASA's Space Launch System rocket. The price for either option would be substantially less than $275 million, or one-tenth the cost of a single NASA launch. This exists today, and more partially reusable rockets are on the way.

> The second technology is storing and transferring fuel in space, known as propellant depots. SpaceX and Blue Origin need liquid oxygen to serve as an oxidizer for their engines, but each uses a different fuel: methane for Starship and hydrogen for Blue Moon. Both companies have work to do in proving out the technology to store and transfer these propellants, but both have already been partnering with NASA. Sowers believes this is a solvable problem.

> The third breakthrough, which unlocks the potential of this new spaceflight paradigm, is harvesting resources in space. This means tapping into the water ice believed to exist in abundance at the lunar poles and the ample ingredients for methane in the Martian atmosphere. The work is already happening here. Blue Origin has won several "Tipping Point" grants from NASA to demonstrate liquid hydrogen and oxygen production on the Moon, and with its MOXIE experiment, NASA has already produced oxygen on Mars.

>> No.15461935

it's kind of sad how bigelow turned out. I think they could've done quite well.

>> No.15461937

> When Sowers and his team released a series of papers showing how an architecture with refueling and depots would enable a human exploration program using existing commercial rockets, Boeing officials became furious and tried to get him fired. While Sowers was protected by his company's leadership, he was banned from uttering the word "depot."

> At the same time, a powerful US Senator, Richard Shelby of Alabama, was adding billions of dollars to NASA's budget for the Space Launch System. This vehicle was being designed and managed at Marshall Space Flight Center in his home state. He, too, told NASA officials to stop talking about depots. Before then, NASA had been considering funding some experiments with United Launch Alliance on propellant storage in space.

Boeing strikes again

> Shelby retired at the end of 2022. One long-time advocate of propellant depots, Jonathan Goff, does not believe this is coincidental to the space agency's renewed interest in depots.

> Like Sowers, he welcomed NASA's entry into an era of reusable spaceflight. But Goff noted that it is really only happening because two billionaires, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, are aggressively pushing the idea forward.

> Although developing Starship, Blue Moon, and their refueling capabilities will be challenging, Goff said they are engineering projects and not basic science. In other words, we know this will work. Humans have built plenty of rockets before, and with the Falcon 9, we know that rapid reuse is possible. The physics and engineering of propellant storage and transfer is solid; it just needs to be done.

> "I think we could have done a lot of this in the 1960s if we had put our minds to it," he said. "The only reason we haven’t done it by now is because it’s hard to get the money to do it. Until now, most people assumed a big rocket, like with Apollo, was the only way."

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>> No.15461979

>space environmentalist
What a fag

>> No.15461986
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>no official VG stream
>no T-0

>> No.15461988

It's a ride for the terminally rich and bored. The fuck do you need a stream for?

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>> No.15461991

South Koreans launch a rocket earlier this morning

>> No.15461993

it looks cool though

>> No.15461996

they don't stream commercial airlines either

>> No.15461997

Well you can always look at NSF and hope they pull the oops lever.

>> No.15462001

best korea launches rockets all the time

>> No.15462019

The Sea of Japan ain't space, son.

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>> No.15462025

when you have to take a shit in the middle of the room for everybody to spectate

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>> No.15462033

>space rastafarians
every day Neuromancer moves slightly closer to the nonfiction section

>> No.15462038

>The Blue Moon lander is now completely reusable; it will remain in lunar orbit, going up and down to the surface. It will be serviced by a transport vehicle that will be fueled in low-Earth orbit and then deliver propellant to the Moon. This transporter, in turn, will be refilled by multiple launches of the reusable New Glenn rocket.

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>> No.15462045

I still havent finished neuromancer, and I was unfortunate enough to finish that garbage piece of shit book snowcrash first, guh

>> No.15462050

>you must be under 18 years of age to post year

>> No.15462051

Neuromancer is way better. The worst you can say is that there are a few quaint technology misses like the lack of cell phones and the characters are a bit shallow.

>> No.15462054

Didn't they go bankrupt?

>> No.15462056

the other virgin

>> No.15462063

That was Virgin Orbit, this is Virgin Galactic.

>> No.15462066

>suborbital space
Does it even get that high? Or are they using some cucked definition of space?

>> No.15462067
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Interceptor ready. Fox 3!

>> No.15462068

I remember. I will always remember.

>> No.15462072

>Truth of Consequences
Some serious roleplaying going on with place names in America.

>> No.15462085

Virgin Orbit, a spinoff off Virgin Galactic, went bankrupt

>> No.15462103

> As of Jan 2023, SpaceX has launched 1272 metric tons of mass to orbit. This means it would take ~5 fully expendable Starship launches to launch all the mass that SpaceX has ever put in orbit.

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hullo on the stream

>> No.15462133

or more to the point, twelve fully reusable starships

>> No.15462137

how many sls' in terms of $ cost?

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>> No.15462152

$500 billion

>> No.15462164

This just seems like a big waste of time and money. VG will never get to LEO with this tech. They already killed two people. What are they hoping to achieve?

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>> No.15462181

we could be about to watch 6 people die

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>> No.15462194

someone tell the pilots to do a flip. That would be cool, and VG would get more money.

>> No.15462201

just think, they're the second highest commercial passengers in space rn

>> No.15462208

at apogee, with the earths horizon in full view from the small port window next to their seats, at least one of them will pause and ponder what a profound waste of money this was.

>> No.15462211

I'd rather get a ride on the Concorde than that rickety death can. BRING BACK THE CONCORDE

>> No.15462228

concord was wild. not the design, but the fact that in the 60s (!) two socialst run countries both bankrupt from ww2 decided the best use of the equivalent of 10s of billions of pounds/francs was to create a loss making plane that would only fly incredible wealthy people between london and newyork at mach 1.5 whilst sipping gin and do literally nothing else.

>> No.15462235

I know. Imagine an all first class commercial flight w/ sexy British accent flight attendants serving you Gin at 60k feet. Its understandable that poorfags disapprove.

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>two socialst run countries
Having a bit more welfare provision than the US did at the time doesn't make them socialist

>> No.15462244

spaceplane fag go and stay go

>> No.15462246

Starlink posting is best posting

>> No.15462247

the legacy is airbus, a company that makes boeing look nimble and efficient and whoes highest aspiration in name is to make a bus (the worst form of pleb transport imaginable) fly.

>> No.15462249

I actually cannot as I have never smelled a naked woman or the excretions they produce during sexual activity.

>> No.15462250

There is no environment in space.

>> No.15462251

post war labour governments were practically communist.

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> The governments that spent fortunes to make atom bombs to drop on the USSR if it came to that, were in fact communists themselves

>> No.15462268

>he thinks the cold war was a war of ideology

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>> No.15462345

What a shot

>> No.15462401

is today, May 25th 2023, the first time that 20 people have been in space at the same time?
ISS 11, Tiangong 3, Virgin Galactic 6

>> No.15462410

>in space

>> No.15462412

it passed the karman line didn't it? I know you fags don't like sounding rockets but I very deliberately didn't say orbit.

>> No.15462414

the hymen line should be moved to 150km so virgin never gets there

>> No.15462416

yes. we broke the record. i expect that the the "most people in space" record will be broken once at year or multiple times a year for the forseeable future.

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$6 billion COST INCREASE for RS-25, for just the next 6 years.


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spoiler: its nasa

>> No.15462443

pork barrel shittle lives on, lmao

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they are really getting sucked dry
oldspace needs to die already

>> No.15462446

Ummmm sorry sweaty. but those are mature engines

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I think you read it wrong. I think the audits says that over the last 6 years both the boosters and the rs-25s contributed to being 6 billion over budget.

>> No.15462453

Bong here, nobody talks about because it's inconvenient to retarded lefties, but britain was absolutely communist: wages and prices were set according to trade union 'recommendations'. Government was subsidizing jobs that had no business case and were losing money hand over fist just to keep unemployment low. Unions were stealing shit, the shipbuilding sector was particularly bad, people were striking against the adoption of fucking modern shipping containers because it would cut jobs. All this came to a head when Britain had to take a loan from the IMF, and after that fucking stagflation. When the money ran out, the massive powerful unions saw that their real wages were decreasing out of control and decided to solve the problem with massive strike action, which caused the 'winter of discontent' where there were dead bodies and rubbish on the streets because even the gravediggers and rubbish collectors were striking. They had to institute three day weeks because they couldn't power the country. It was grim, and we still deal with the leftovers.

>> No.15462457

did we ever figure out how to land HLSSS without sending moon rocks into lunar orbit

>> No.15462459

why the dramatic cost increase?

>> No.15462460

Airbus is a shit but implying that they're worse than fucking Boing is terminally insane

>> No.15462463

boomer pensions

>> No.15462465

COST PLUS. The incentive is to increase the cost as much as possible and the government will pay the full price + 10-20 of the cost%

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>> No.15462469

Maybe NASA just stop doing business with those that won't deliver? And maybe they fire the internal lobbyists? Hm?

>> No.15462471

I'm sure the shitters that complain about Musk using taxpayer subsidies to build his rockets are outraged by this waste of money.

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>> No.15462484

explain with your words how airbus is any better than boeing

>> No.15462485

he is definitely somehow connected with the government. No way someone with his understanding of engineering could successfully run Tesla and SpaceX

>> No.15462486

Just the overrun, on only the engines, engines that were designed 40 years ago and have flown over a hundred times, costs more than the entire Starship program.

>> No.15462487

airbus didn't make the shitliner and killed people because the low iq pilots couldn't hack their big brained autopilot

>> No.15462488

uhh, nta, but don't they make cheaper stuff that is higher quality and safer? They also don't do the shady stuff that boeing has done.

>> No.15462489

what do you mean? have you seen the starbase interviews?

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>> No.15462492

no they made the a380 which was pork barrel with cracked carbon wings tho

>> No.15462494

>They already killed two people. What are they hoping to achieve?
Isn't it obvious? To kill more.

>> No.15462496

They already tried that :^)

>> No.15462504

Just imagine how much fucking spam we're going to get once the bottom half of the world's population gets internet access. I hope X is good at filtering spam.

>> No.15462506

their shit works and is reliable

>> No.15462508

Yes, a lot of us will win big lottery, just need bank account and routing number please sir.

>> No.15462510

Isn't most spam bot generated already? A bunch of retards aren't going to change that much, just need a retard filter, which shouldn't be that difficult to have

>> No.15462512

jesus christ wikipedia and the internet have fully fucking blackholed the sterling crisis. The wikipedia page has been fully co-opted it doesn't even make sense. Commies really fucking hate history.

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what in the fuck are they spending the money on? seriously? is it just pure grift? or just massive incompetence
I mean look at virgin orbit, a boeing dude was leading it, can't just have been purely grift (giving yourself more bonuses), they spent money on hiring and facilities etc
so I think a big part of it is just pure incompetence

>> No.15462519

Have you ever read /sfg/?

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>> No.15462522

OH YES YES YES oldspace bros, I'm thinking we're back

>> No.15462524

its grifting. there is no legitimate reason for 6bn extra being needed to get already designed engines built.

>> No.15462525

Purposefully complex and costly engineering solutions (and fixation on ancient hardware) over practical benefits. RS-25 have absolutely no sense on SLS due to its mission profile, even the basic RD-0120 without the many proposed design improvements over the decades BTFO's it. This is a great example of the oldspace mentality vs. SpaceX and others that would never, ever consider obsolete, inappropriate hardware on a "new" launcher

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When even the biggest SLS stans are forced to admit costs are out of control.

>> No.15462527

good morning

>> No.15462530

damn, I was looking forward to his cope. What a slimy weasel.

>> No.15462535

save sls and artemis from this nightmare

>> No.15462543

oldspace knows it is on its way out more or less. Need to squeeze that piggy bank one last time for a final pay day

>> No.15462544

>i will pay you x amount of money to put y amount of men + payload on the moon by z date and if you don't meet those lines you don't get paid

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>> No.15462549

where were you when oldspace kill?

>> No.15462550

Reminder that SpaceX is test firing Raptor 2/3's up to four times a day.

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>Commies really fucking hate history.
true that is why they are always trying to delete it and replace it with their fairy tales. National socialists did the same but as they were discredited it also is now a thing of the distant past

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the oig report pdf

>> No.15462558

>Given the enormous cost of the Artemis campaign, NASA is exploring ways to make the SLS—which requires two
boosters and four RS-25 engines per launch—more affordable by moving towards a fixed-price contract structure for
booster production and establishing cost reduction targets on the production of new RS-25 engines. While these efforts
may result in savings over the long term, ongoing schedule delays and cost increases raise questions about the Agency’s
ability to meaningfully reduce booster- and engine-related Artemis costs.
my sides

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why dont they built a fully stationary superheavy booster and do rapid full duration test burns? Seems like while they work individually the violence of the 30+ brothers firing at once seems to still cause unforseen problems in some of them.

>> No.15462561

"In this audit, we examined the extent to which NASA is meeting cost, schedule, and performance goals for the Boosters
and Adaptation contracts, and whether BPOC and RS-25 Restart and Production, the follow-on production contracts,
reduce the government’s financial risk and promote affordability. To complete this work, we conducted interviews with
NASA, Northrop Grumman, and Aerojet Rocketdyne officials"

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>> No.15462568

Welcome to the pork barrel. You've barely opened the lid.

>> No.15462569

"At definitization,
BPOC also lacked scope details, omitted key contract clauses, underwent a limited legal review, and is at risk of making
duplicate payments for overlapping work performed under BPOC and the upcoming Exploration Production and
Operations Contract. We also questioned an additional $5.6 million payment NASA made to Northrop Grumman related
to the Agency’s improper liquidation of funds."

>> No.15462572

>As a result, we question $19.8 million in award fees it received for the 11 unfinished engines which were subsequently
moved to the RS-25 Restart and Production contract and may now be eligible to receive additional award fees.

>> No.15462576

wtf gender is that

>> No.15462578

AI bots are gonna come faster

>> No.15462579

meant to write >BPOC sorry I'm retarded

>> No.15462581

>Long-Standing Management Issues Drive Increases in
SLS Engine and Booster Contracts’ Costs and Schedules
The RS-25 engine and booster contracts’ cost and schedule increases result from several long-standing
interrelated management issues that the OIG previously identified, including underestimated scope and
complexity of work, concurrent development and production contract activities, inadequate
procurement workforce, poor contract definitization, reliance on cost-plus contract structures for
production efforts, and inappropriate use of award fees.

>> No.15462582

if you think that's bad don't look up the race and iq page

>> No.15462583

booster production and operations contract

>> No.15462586

Earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, no matter how much money you throw at them. Sooner or later even science golems will have to ask yourself some serious questions about these manufactured "delays" and postponements.

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we're reusing the engine by uh completely redesigning it because the orange foam doesn't like it or something.

>> No.15462590

I don't think I can bring myself to read it. I already know they'll be turning the info manipulation to absolute max for that one, would sicken me. My consolation is that my family has a full set of physical encyclopedia brittanica from just before the internet got popular, so if it gets really bad I'll have some record of how things really were.

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>> No.15462597

it's brutal
"Due to the amount of time elapsed between the conclusion of the Shuttle Program and the beginning
of the Artemis campaign, NASA faces significant challenges maintaining the industrial base and supply
chains required to produce the RS-25. Specifically, many of the parts in the engine controller system
were no longer available, which necessitated a new Engine Controller Unit (ECU) design by the
contractor. Further, Aerojet’s early technical assumptions for the new ECU—which contains the
electronics that operate the engine and communicate with the SLS vehicle—lacked a comprehensive
understanding of controller design requirements and an agreed-upon scope of work, which resulted in
significant technical issues culminating in increased costs and expanded schedule.36
As a result, by the
end of the Adaptation contract performance period in September 2020, NASA had spent nearly
$2.1 billion instead of the originally proposed $1.1 billion, including Constellation expenses. Excluding
Constellation expenses, NASA spent $581 million for the adaptation of 16 RS-25 engines at a cost that
exceeded its initial estimate by $238 million. Moreover, for that $581 million, only 5 of the 16 engines
were completed at the contract’s close"
they couldn't replicate a 70s ecu for under 1bn

>> No.15462601


> Bechtel, the prime contractor for the Mobile Launcher 2 (ML-2), said May 25 that the first steel components for the structure arrived at KSC earlier this month. The steel trusses, manufactured for Bechtel by Paxton & Vierling Steel in Iowa, will be part of the foundation of the base of the structure.

>NASA awarded a contract to Bechtel in 2019 to design and build ML-2, which will be used by the Block 1B version of the SLS. That version of the rocket, with a more powerful Exploration Upper Stage, is taller than the current Block 1 version and requires a new structure to support it.

> That cost-plus contract was originally valued at $383 million, with delivery of ML-2 scheduled for March 2023. However, the development of the structure has suffered serious delays and cost overruns. An audit by NASA’s Office of Inspector General in June 2022 concluded that the structure would cost up to $1.5 billion and not be completed until late 2027.

> “The success of the completed Integrated Critical Design Review (ICDR) and now our first steel delivery are two recent milestones that reflect the team’s dedication and drive,” said Felice Presti, project manager at Bechtel, in a company statement. “We remain committed to our mission of permanently changing the landscape at Kennedy and supporting the proud history and legacy of our customer, NASA.”

> Artemis 4, the first launch of the SLS Block 1B and thus the first use of ML-2, is currently scheduled for the fall of 2028, according to a NASA Artemis mission manifest published in March.

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> Virgin Galactic released VSS Unity at 12:23 p.m. Eastern. The spaceplane appeared to perform a nominal burn of its hybrid rocket engine before descending to a runway landing back at Spaceport America nearly 15 minutes later. Virgin Galactic said the vehicle reached a peak altitude of 87.2 kilometers — above the 50-mile altitude used by U.S. government agencies for awarding astronaut wings, but below the 100-kilometer Kármán line — and top speed of Mach 2.94.

> The flight, called Unity 25 by the company, was the first powered flight of SpaceShipTwo since July 2021, when the vehicle flew six people, including company founder Richard Branson. Both Unity and Eve went into extended maintenance periods after that flight and resumed test flights earlier this year, with Unity making a glide flight April 26.

> “Looking down at our beautiful planet from space, something that so few humans have experienced, was such a humbling, awe-inspiring, and reverent experience,” said Huie in a company statement. “As one of the first 20 Black people who have gone to space, I hope that I can inspire the next generation of astronauts who look like me to set their goals high and break down the mental and institutional barriers that have held people of color back.

> Virgin Galactic said before the flight that Unity 25 would be its final test before beginning commercial service. Its first commercial flight, called “Galactic 01”, is scheduled for as soon as late June carrying three mission specialists on a dedicated research flight for the Italian Air Force. Colglazier, in the post-flight statement, confirmed that schedule for Galactic 01.

>> No.15462608

buying screws for 10k a piece

>> No.15462611

despite all the grift, the only person who can put a stop to it is the president. Obama stopped costellation, and congress got it's revenge by proposing SLS which increased the pork tenfold, they showed they could get away with stealing tens of billions and rubbed it in everyone's faces.

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>> No.15462617

that's one expensive sugar rocket

>> No.15462622

I remember seeing a pic of that vehicle as a literal child, it was captioned with something saying something about space tourism in the future. Crazy how slow this company is.

>> No.15462623

>they couldn't replicate a 70s ecu for under 1bn
You could probably do it with a fucking raspberry pi

>> No.15462625

>expendable ground infrastructure

>> No.15462627

the first flight was 13 years ago apparently, the company itself was founded 19 years ago

> 10 October 2010 (first glide flight)

>> No.15462628

raspberry pi isn't certified for use in space. It takes dozens of expensive engineers (plus plenty of upper management) and 2 years of testing with expensive scientific equipment to confirm that a 20,000 off the shelf raspberry pi works in space.

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>> No.15462632

When the fuck will NASA have a press conference and some journo have the balls to ask why SLS + associated hardware are so fucking expensive. Seriously. It’s ludicrous. It seems like Berger always wants to ask it but skirts around it; he needs to buck up and just flat out ask Nelson why it’s still on the table at this point

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this is literally SpaceX

>> No.15462636

>almost 3 expendable Falcon Heavy launches for the price of one (1) engine
haha, man, I want real earthers to die real deaths

>> No.15462637

They probably know that they'll get some canned answer? idk.
Might just be because asking would be incredibly awkward.

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>> No.15462641

dreamchaser will never carry people. It might not even carry cargo.

>> No.15462647

>default Microsoft Word heading/body fonts and preset formatting/graphics
This document is so breathtakingly generic. I'd commend the OIG for not wasting money on graphic design but I'm sure whoever made this is being paid way more than they should.

>> No.15462648

OIG can't do that without shuttleboomers in Congress trying to kill the entire Artemis program in retaliation.

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>The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day. There is a debate about the length of the solar year in the Talmud, and its consequences and the rare Jewish ceremony of the Blessing of the Sun (Birkat Hahammah) are discussed. The view of the talmudic rabbis is contrasted with that of the contemporary Greek astronomers. While the rabbis of the Talmud argued about the size of the flat Earth, the Greeks had determined the Earth to be a sphere, had calculated its circumference and had moved on to consider other questions.

>> No.15462655

Because it wouldn't get them anywhere. Berger isn't stupid, nor is Foust. Asking a question like that only makes it so that the organization gets pissed off at you and will make access to various events more difficult for you. Still, both of them have asked critical questions in the past about different projects. Foust recently with his annoyance at NT's talking head just obviously lying about the status of the lander. And I also seem to recall Berger asking Nelson what they were going to do about the constant delays at some point last year. Ultimately, even if they do respond, it's just going to be a company line about "being proud of the work our partners are doing as we continue forward toward the critical path" since admitting that you've fucked up openly just doesn't occur and that fuck up exposures have to be done through avenues like the OIG, or insiders, or reality just confronting them.

>> No.15462657

>copy pasted response
I like to laugh at FE's as much as the next guy, but reusing the same posts over and over is exactly the same thing they do: it doesn't do anything except clog up the thread with garbage posts. Change the picture at the very least.

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also got literally creates a transparent dome above Earth to keep the water out in Genesis. Can't make this shit up

>> No.15462681

labour pm near the end of the UK's commie misadventures. Very enlightening and somewhat hilarious. Later that year the public finally was completely disillusioned and elected good old Thatcher by a landslide, and Labour didn't get in power again until 18 years later. Maybe the UK would've had their own space program by now if the whole debacle didn't happen.

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>> No.15462704

BE-4's have remote killswitches. Jeff is killing his competition in the crib.

>> No.15462707

>It has frequently been noted on lists of unusual place names for having chosen to rename itself in March 1950 after the Truth or Consequences radio show.
Even in the 1950s, people did things for the lulz.

>> No.15462711

I think we need another launch before making that sort of conclusion.

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>put a mars-class passenger starship in LEO as a space hotel

remind me what the point of VAST is again? oh that's right, nothing

>> No.15462717

checks out

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They temporarily changed the name as part of a stunt for a game show but then everyone decided the name was actually kinda cool so they never bothered to change it back.

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it will be the huepocalypse?

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>> No.15462752

More like $200. We've sent up one on a Transporter already. We also have to deal with scalper shits inflating the prices.
>t. startup tech

>> No.15462756
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All we need is to do is set a requirement for each person to be "in space" for at least one continuous hour to count for the record.
>and that's when the balloons start going up

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>> No.15462760

>Musk was on Trumps science advisory or something similar and quit due to Trump saying something like climate change isn't a thing
I had the impression that Musk just didn't want the negative press of being cooperative with Trump. They started hitting him with this immediately as the joined the committee. This was before the EDS.

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the absolute fucking state of boeing
someone put it out of its misery already

>> No.15462766

And here comes the uncountable amount of seemingly small errors that seem completely unrelated to one another, but will ultimately cripple and kill a whole rocket lineup

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yeah maybe, it was a while ago so I don't remember the specifics anymore
maybe the real reason was negative press and the climate change thing was just an excuse to leave without seeming arbitrary


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It's never going to carry people is it? Reminder that we would still be completely beholden to Russia if it weren't for SpaceX

>> No.15462781

Is this just a mockup or the actual starliner? It seems like nothing is really integrated here

>> No.15462783

It also sounds like the kind of name that a wild-west 19th-century fire-and-brimstone type would come up with. I mean, there was already a place named Tombstone.

>> No.15462784

no idea, I grabbed that photo from this article
which doesn't actually mention it.

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Each SLS + Artemis launch costs 4.2 billion now

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Neuralinks coming into your brain soon

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To be fair, some of the delay has been due to no fucking available docking ports on ISS because Boing took so long with its fuck-ups.

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Should have gotten Tesla batteries


Also in some tangent news related to future of space colonization

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Supreme Court reduced the powers of EPA along the wetlands, Starbase is in wetlands. Thus this allows SpaceX more flexibility

>> No.15462810

Yeah, it did seem like a bullshit reason at the time, but Musk is a master of PR, so I guess he judged right. But, as I said in the previous thread, Trump is super salty that Musk stole his derangement syndrome, and is the one in the news every day instead of him. Plus it has to be extremely infuriating that Musk now owns Twitter, while no one cares about Truth social.

>> No.15462812

>pour water on land
>it is now a wet land
checkmate EPA

>> No.15462814

Hence the water deluge system

>> No.15462816

Well Musk has defended Trump's right to speech and has invited him back. So Trump isn't too mad at Musk, if anything, Trump is weighting the options to go back to twitter or not because it has 300-400+ million users active vs his couple thousands

>> No.15462822

Trump has some absurd contract with Truth (which is not entirely his company) that requires him to post anything on Truth first.
That said, he's probably waiting for the perfect moment to return to twitter unannounced. Late this year I think.

>> No.15462824

only took them a fucking year. hopefully though they've cooled down on the cowboy approach. the brain it not to be trifled with.

>> No.15462827

actually it doesn't
the contract says that if he posts something on Truth, he can't post it on some other social network for 6h
but if he posts it on Twitter first (or only twitter) then that doesn't apply
and it doesnt cover things like twitter spaces
this is according to some random people in a twitter space discussing the DeSantis presidential candidancy announcement, the person might have been someone in the trump or desantis campaign, don't remember exactly
the space was the mario something one
a dude that is supposedly going to start working for the trump campaign (or worked for it already) said that trump might do something with twitter soon

>> No.15462830

That sounds like something you made up in you head. I've watched Trump speeches ever since he announced he's running for president. If people don't bow down to him, he's salty as fuck. And considering Musk just practically endorsed Desantis, he's probably infuriated. He's not on twitter out of spite.
As for Musk's decision to unban him, that's just Musk's great sense for PR. If Trump comes back to Twitter, that's more traffic and more ad money. If he doesn't, Desantis(Musk's candidate) easily wins. Win-win for Musk.

>> No.15462832

>the contract says that if he posts something on Truth, he can't post it on some other social network for 6h
>but if he posts it on Twitter first (or only twitter) then that doesn't apply
Ok that makes a lot more sense

>> No.15462834

>Musk just practically endorsed Desantis
Did he though?

>> No.15462836

Listen to the spaces livestream

>> No.15462838

That was basically the prior standard for defining federally regulated wetlands. Now it has to be contiguous with a navigable waterway... so Starbase being on a Gulf coast beach means they're still impacted.

>> No.15462840

NTA, but Musk endorsed DeSantis long time ago


>> No.15462846

>If he doesn't, Desantis(Musk's candidate) easily wins.
trumps inter party percentage is easily in the lower 60s. Desantis is not going to get the nomination dude

>> No.15462851

I want to see some primary debates first before making bold claims. Trump won the ones in 2016 because he was an outsider running against career politicians with past failures. Now he is one. The reason I'm hoping Desantis wins, is because being a Florida governor, he is at least interest a bit in space, unlike Trump who only cares about his image.

>> No.15462860 [DELETED] 

Trump has been unable to deliver his promises, thats his problem. Meanwhile DeSantis is hitting the ball left and right, one homerun after another. Thats Trumps' biggest weakness.

>> No.15462877

That's what I'm thinking.

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>> No.15462919

Was busy prepping for and taking an exam today, whats happened in the world of spaceflight today?

>> No.15462925

South Korea launched its rocket and more SLS cost overruns

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>> No.15462933

also Rocket Lab might launch a pair of TROPICS weather satellites in a few hours, if weather permits


(pretty busy, with a launch a day for the next week.)

>> No.15462934

damn... stratolaunch graphics design SUCKS

>> No.15462980


1hr long interview

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>> No.15463056

This makes a lot more sense then dropping the same payload off of that monster plane they've got

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Possible Starship HLS piece spotted, either way its got a shit ton of weird cutouts that indicate SOMETHING interesting is coming. This piece went to midbay, and credit to ths Ring Watchers

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Zoom out

>> No.15463132

how much of the work on HLS is rings and how much is all the electronics and life support and all the other internals?

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>> No.15463150

Ah good, my cock ring is here.

>> No.15463154

Dragon 1 is utilitarian and comfy

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Tropics Launch stream is live:

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Clear Live!
Electron Coming to a Storm Near You Mission
Launch Site: Rocket Lab Launch Complex 1 Pad B, Māhia Peninsula, New Zealand
Launch Vehicle: Electron
Payload: 2x TROPICS satellites
Target: Low Earth Orbit

>> No.15463255

wait electron can only carry a pair of 1 foot long cube sats? smallsat launchers fucking blow

>> No.15463257

gorgeous launch site

>> No.15463259

It is the worst fucking rocket ever, literally 600 pounds only per rocket. Thats not even 1/3 of a ton

>> No.15463266

right? beautiful cliffs and rolling grasslands, minimal infrastructure to ruin the view (unlike close second Tanegashima). Is there any more picturesque launch site?

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some kino views there

>> No.15463272

to the guy earlier saying there was a record 20 people in space; vg only did 81kms lmao

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>> No.15463277

love this wacky steep trajectory

>> No.15463279

reminder that Astra fucked up so hard NASA yoinked tropics from em

>> No.15463281

Quite like the nip launch site as well. Where the cameras are positioned at launches, we get those nice views of the cliffs and sandy beach.

>> No.15463283

batteries into the ocean

>> No.15463285

throwing rocket batteries in the ocean, a safe and legal thrill

>> No.15463286

It is worse than that. NASA only took the launch from them once Astra retired their Rocket 3. There is a statement from NASA, just after the first failed launch, stating that Astra will still launch the other satellites, as initially planned.

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Based Rocket Lab saving the lives of millions of people

>> No.15463288

damn it sure cools off in a hurry

>> No.15463292

4ASS debut rocket when?

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lol it used to have six satellites in the logo
I knew the plain "TROPICS" on the fairing felt off

>> No.15463312

AOS imminent

>> No.15463315

wow I'm glad all four tropics satellites were deployed

>> No.15463319

I'm glad all four(6) satellites were put into orbit

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fuck why did RL's feed have to cut out early, we need this in high resolution

>> No.15463352

>because being a Florida governor, he is at least interest a bit in space
Oh please. Then post proof of his genuine interest of space.

Otherwise he's just a politician who only cares about their image, like you say Trump does.

Trump was great for space, especially for nuclear.

>> No.15463380

to be truly kino they needed to have it fly to tropical islands

>> No.15463420

ive only now just realised concord was a tax payer funded flying hs2 for elite nonces

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Trump was happy to take all the credit for Obama's commercial spaceflight policy and SpaceX
>especially for nuclear
refer to pic rel

>> No.15463429

Expendable planets (and their populations). SpaceX should become an independent government when they have the Mars colony set up and wage interplanetary wars for full hegemony of Mars and beyond. Terrans can keep Venus, Mercury and the Moon

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>> No.15463441

>Terrans can keep Venus, Mercury and the Moon
Are you fucking insane
Moon and Mercury are the treasure boxes of the solar system
Loaded with easily accessible metals and minerals in shallow gravity wells. Even Venus has its uses.
You want Mars to subsist on the scraps of the Belt and dig deep into the bottomless gravity wells of the gas giant just to come up with a handful of ice.
You sound like an Earther spy

>> No.15463459

>even Venus has it's uses
What, are we gonna spend half an eon terraforming the fucking thing while sitting in the useless clouds?? Mercury also takes a fuck ton of fuel to get to and back, just because it has metal doesnt mean its worth fucking anything. Its hot as shit, no atmosphere, hard to get anything there and off, and its in a strategically disadvantageous position if your society exists on Mars. Theres only so many fucking trajectories to get to Mercury from Mars, it's easily interceptable and you probably have to pass by Erf, which is fucking suicide. Titan has a massive reservoir of fuel, the asteroid belt also has a fuck ton of metal THAT IS ACTUALLY EASILY ACCESIBLE (its not scraps, look at Vesta). Europa has more than enough water-ice to extract for a massive population and any other products that need oxygen or hydrogen, and if you have the rest of the solar system to mess with, you can set up outposts EVERYWHERE and fuck over Erf eventually by bottlenecking their reach

>> No.15463485

This is how you can spot Earthers - they carefully avoid using the actual word "Earth (derogatory)"

>> No.15463493

>literal schizoposting
I denounce any environmentalist movements and actions, SpaceX will succeed and get us off this planet, anything impeding the companies progress should be paved right over including Earthers, the EPA, and the FAA. Happy now? Go fuck yourself schizo, you dont even try to present counterpoints after I RYNO'd your points.

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>> No.15463502

>But call him an Earther, and watch how he recoils - "I've been found out!"

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>> No.15463505

suspicious. Why publish this now? Contracts for solid boosters are being signed for 9 years in the future, they won't be able to feasibly keep up the rate of pork distribution this way. Maybe someone wants to cancel SLS because pork rate can only decrease from here. Budget man comes in and cancels artemis, it's restarted as a more ambitious (expensive) project and the pork keeps flowing until another cancellation.

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>> No.15463511

don't they publish these regularly?

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