I will never understand why /sci/ creams over Elon.

[Anonymous No.15459571]

Make some quirky memes and talk about FBI crime stats, and suddenly everyone's taking turns to ride him. This type of behavior is partly responsible for the decline of Western science. Showmanship and flashy projects suck up all the resources while leaving boring, modest projects that progress science and technology dry. Midwits like him suck up all the oxygen and peddle their dumb ideas like his le Ai bad take that riled up the normies to regulate the shit out of the field.

[Anonymous No.15459574]

gb2leftypol

[Anonymous No.15459576]

>>15459571
You mean SLS and Congress, don't you?

As retard as Elon can be their projects' funding have a good ROI for government.

[Anonymous No.15460278]

>>15459571
Elon is just another cult of personality for fools to be attracted to. All his endeavors fail at great cost to the American taxpayer, whose money he stole for his schemes.

[Anonymous No.15460297]

He built a reusable rocket that puts 60 satellites up each launch.
I get internet from those sats.
He is working on a rocket that can put 150 tons in LEO and land on the moon.
You could say I am a fan yeah. I am a fan of results.

[Anonymous No.15460344]

>>15459571
The average /sci/ golem thinks that this globohomo puppet shitposts on twitter all day, designs rockets, makes cars, batteries and runs several companies. Absolute retarded science npcs on this board.

https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136
https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694

[Anonymous No.15460455]

>hey bro, i bought le unepic sjw twitter and owned the sjws now i post memes on my account and conspiracy theories and i am le based
>now get my microchip implated in your brain

[Anonymous No.15460494]

>>15459571
If you're interested in space travel, what else is there to hang your hopes on?

[Anonymous No.15460853]

Starship claims it will have a cost per kg of $13

Thirteen.

Fucking.

Dollars.

That means it will have a slightly higher cost to launch my 100kg ass into LEO as the fuel cost for a round trip a380 trip from LAX to Dubai.

If us normies ever have a shot at space cruises, or orbital hotels, or Mars offroading, SpaceX is not only the best, but ONLY shot in our lifetime.

[Anonymous No.15460902]

>>15460297
> I SUCK THE COCK OF ELON
> (also I pay him directly)
haha you fool

[Anonymous No.15460908]

>>15460853
you will die of old age still paying the manchild for your dream nazi boi.

[Anonymous No.15461040]

>>15460902
>>15460908
What's your problem? You make no good arguments against Elon Musk or SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15461054]

>>15459571
>Showmanship and flashy projects suck up all the resources while leaving boring, modest projects that progress science and technology dry.
This is peak midwit. The biggest scientific breakthroughs have always been flashy and interesting. Maybe stop sucking at science and you'll get more funding.

It is just icing on the cake that elon is based

[Anonymous No.15461057]

>>15460853
For $13/kg we could shoot niggers into outerspace rather than deal with them, and the cost would still be cheaper than feeding, clothing, and housing them for 60 odd years.

[Anonymous No.15461064]

>>15459571
We don't, only the reddit transplant tourists do.

He's a crook and a fraud, which is becoming glaringly obvious day by day. With his predictions and projects showing failure after failure. If you want to learn more about him watch some of Common Sense Skeptic and thunderf00t videos.

[Anonymous No.15461099]

>>15461064
>If you want to learn more about him watch some of Common Sense Skeptic and thunderf00t videos.
jej

[Anonymous No.15461128]

>leftist is confused why someone who creates things is well respected

[Anonymous No.15461143]

>>15461064
Thundercuck haha.

[Anonymous No.15461144]

>>15461128
I know he creates useful things but he also has the wrong opinions and is racist /transphobic.

[Anonymous No.15461158]

>>15461144
Virtue signal is cancer

[Anonymous No.15461168]

>>15461144
Can't unbase the based

[Anonymous No.15461171]

>>15460297
>He is working on a...
No results means it didn't happen. He was working on FSD. He was working on tesla truck. He was working on the hyperloop. He was working on the boring company.

[Anonymous No.15461173]

>>15460853
I claim a cost or 0.13 dollars. Will you invest in me now?

[Anonymous No.15461177]

>>15461144
If you aren't in 2023 then there's something wrong with you

[Anonymous No.15461243]

>>15461173
Make a rocket. Where's your factory? Where's your employee? Where's your product?

[Anonymous No.15461244]

>>15460297
>He built a reusable rocket that puts 60 satellites up
I don't think Elon built a single thing since Zip2, and the people that took over Zip2 said it was one of the worst designed pieces of trash they'd ever seen.

[Anonymous No.15461251]

>>15461243
there's a rocket in my pocket and im happy to see you

[Anonymous No.15461258]

>>15461251
Keep it that way. My rocket will be inside your mom

[Anonymous No.15461485]

>>15459571
>Make some quirky memes and talk about FBI crime stats, and suddenly every leftist is taking turns to have him live rent free in their head.

[Anonymous No.15461491]

>>15461057
imagine the economic lifting this would do. wtf I love Elon now.

[Anonymous No.15463476]

>>15461144
>he creates useful things
>hyperloop
>Vegas loop
>Exploding starships
>Bought Twitter, didn't create it
>Luxury cars with god awful build quality
>Never was part of Paypal
>FSD turned out to be a scam
>Guinness World Record holder for most wealth lost
Yeah my redditor friend, he's a real life Tony Stark. He doesn't have engineers and workers in an abusive environment, he CrEaTeS uSeFuL things himself.

[Anonymous No.15463501]

>>15463476
>He doesn't have engineers and workers in an abusive environment, he CrEaTeS uSeFuL things himself.
Those aren't mutually exclusive, troonster.

[Anonymous No.15464066]

>>15463476
If you weren't an unemployed socialist loser, then you would know that failed projects are normal on the path to success. People celebrate him for the projects that DID work out and nobody but sore losers (you) remember the failures in a few years.

[Anonymous No.15464121]

>>15460278
>All his endeavors fail
His rocket tech competition fails harder, faster and stronger anon. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.15464134]

>5 years ago Elon was reddit
/sci/ HATED him.
>Now Elon is alt-right
/sci/ LOVES him.

It's literally just a bunch of retards that can't think beyond politics. Elon is a serial liar that rode on the coattails of others his entire career and people for some reason memory hole all of his horribly retarded business ventures.

[Anonymous No.15464878]

>>15464134
>if you're not a tranny loving covid jabbing big pharma worshiping pro war thumping anti gun preacher you're alt right racist white supremacist

[Anonymous No.15464890]

>>15464878
I don't know if you've seen his twitter lately but he's shilling the fuck out of Ron DeSantis.

[Anonymous No.15464894]

>>15464890
Yes and? Shilling a Hispanic presidential candidate and African American candidate makes him an alt right?

LMAO. Swallowing marxist propaganda makes you look retarded when realize there are 9 billion other people who also live in this world and has a brain in their

[Anonymous No.15464900]

>>15464894
>You must be white to be alt-right
Have you been on /pol/ recently?

[Anonymous No.15464906]

>>15464900
Whats next? Men can menstruate? LMAO

[Anonymous No.15464909]

>>15464906
What are we even arguing anymore? 4chan only shills elon now when 5 years ago they detested him because of his politics.

[Anonymous No.15464911]

>>15464134
>his horribly retarded business ventures.
hyperloop was created to prevent california from installing high speed rail between LA & SF, which would've badly cut into tesla sales and stock price. tesla is where musk makes most of his money. the trick worked, cali has no high speed rail and no longer even has plans for it, tesla sales and share price is soaring. hyperloop was a massive success. dial8, sir

[Anonymous No.15464912]

>>15464909
4chan is counter culture, the anti-establishment.

Whatever mainstream is parroting, the opposite occurs. If you're swallowing mainstream propaganda, then you're the problem

[Anonymous No.15464913]

>>15464912
I hated Elon before and I still hate him for the reasons I stated. I think for myself, I'm not a contrarian just to be a contrarian.

[Anonymous No.15464915]

>>15464911
>its hyperloop's fault that California will have to spend $100+ billion dollar for the world's shortest high speed train line and the world's slowest high speed trains and the the longest time to build

LMAO

[Anonymous No.15464916]

>>15464913
Unless you have a personal and direct relation, you're simply a product of counter culture narrative shaping.

Did Musk rape your girlfriend and beat her with a club? Why are you so mad? If you can't question why then the reason for your madness isn't personal, its programming.

[Anonymous No.15464918]

>>15464911
What about the boring company? How's that going? What about the home robot maids we're supposed to have this year? Tesla's stock started soaring because Elon was reddit personified and the "I fucking love science" crowd bought into his shit. Tesla is now valued more than any other car company despite selling less than 2% of cars on the road. It's pure retardation.

[Anonymous No.15464921]

>>15464916
I've literally already told you why. He's a fucking charlatan that makes false promises and his entire career is based off riding the coat tails of others. Tesla is a company he bought. Spacex is only successful because of all of the former NASA engineers that left his company. Musk had almost zero input into making PayPal. Every other one of his business ventures has been a laughable failure.

[Anonymous No.15464933]

>>15464918
Tesla stock soared because it was artificially inflated for ~8 years as it stayed still without moving an inch. Then soon as their Model 3 became a success, deliveries soared, their stock rose. Then Model Y came, then the world knew Tesla was the biggest player in automotive history since Henry Ford made Ford company.

This year, they're delivering ~2M electric vehicles. With revenue ~$100B. They have 4 factories in the world pumping cars left and right. 1 new factory under construction in mexico, another yet to be announced later this year. They want to produce ~20 million cars by 2030. Maybe they wont hit it, but if they even get 50% of that, then they're on track to become the biggest automaker in the world. Plus, they've got the best selling car in the world today. They have huge ambitions for lot of things, their battery/solar business is set to add another 30-50B to their business in few years, their AI, robot, etc are also few more things to come

SpaceX is the largest, most successful, launching the most rockets, most payloads, most satellites, having the most customers rocket company. Plus they've got 3000+ satellites in the sky with ~1.5M customers and growing rapidly, likely to double by next year and so on.

[Anonymous No.15464935]

>>15464921
>Tesla is a company he bought
What did he buy? Did he buy a factory? Did he buy employees? Did he buy a car? Patents? Trademark?

What was "bought"? If you believe he "bought" Tesla.

[Anonymous No.15464941]

>>15464918
financial markets are inefficient and investors are subject to emotional manipulation, you're only angry about musk's success leveraging that because he reduced the level of censorship on twitter
>reeeeeeeeee its not fair!!!!!
see >>15461556

[Anonymous No.15464944]

>>15464935
Yes, everything you just said retard. He became the majority share holder and CEO only in 2008, 5 years after the company had already spent years developing the model 3.

[Anonymous No.15464948]

>>15464941
>you're only angry about musk's success leveraging that because he reduced the level of censorship on twitter
I've been angry about Musk since well before last year retard. I don't know if you forget but there was a time when a single tweet from Musk would make stocks fluctuate 200%.

[Anonymous No.15464954]

>>15464944
He became the CEO after the first CEO failed to deliver and had nearly bankrupted the company. Model 3 would not be released for another 10 years. When Musk took CEO role, there was no product. The roadster they were working on cost more to make than to sell because the original CEO had mismanaged the development and production cost. When 2008 Musk had no money left because he had spent it all on Tesla/SpaceX. So when the reckoning came, Musk had lost confidence in the previous CEO, he took over the role of CEO, restructured the company, fired a fuck ton of people to save the company.

>Yes, everything you just said retard
Tesla was created when couple of people came together to create the company, of which Musk was the principle financial investor. He bought the factory his cars would be built in. He bought the trademark from some rando off california. He created the legal framework for the company by copy/pasting SpaceX legal paperworks he had created for. He created the Tesla logo by using his SpaceX employees who designed the SpaceX logos.

From 2004-2008, Musk mostly managed SpaceX. While only doing few high level things at Tesla. When 2008 recession happened, and Tesla's CEO failed to deliver the product on time, with sound finances, Musk fired him. The car cost more to make than to sell. The Roadster was a financial failure. Musk took hold of Tesla as the recession hit and Musk's pocket was empty. He's not the majority share holder because of accident. He's the majority share holder because he created Tesla. He funded 99% of Tesla initial fundings himself when the company was created. Not because he robbed the company from someone or bought it from someone, he CREATED it.

[Anonymous No.15464955]

>>15464933
>then they're on track to become the biggest automaker in the world.
Yet they're already valued at more than every other car company combined.
>Tesla made significant sales
>Toyota sold 10.5 million cars in 2022 alone
>Tesla will sell 20 million cars in 7 years
>Tesla is valued at 3 times that of Toyota
Yeah makes total sense.
>they've got the best selling car in the world today
Source? I see the Model Y at number 4.
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2023-us-vehicle-sales-figures-by-model/
>their AI, robot, etc are also few more things to come
He's been promising this shit for literally a decade and he's well behind OpenAI. Elon is even actively telling people to stop working on AI probably so his own company can catch up.

[Anonymous No.15464956]

>>15464948
Its Musk's fault for being popular. Musk bad because popularity? Is that your argument?

[Anonymous No.15464957]

>>15464956
He is completely reckless with his voice. Yes that is a bad thing. If you're a public figure and CEO of a billion dollar corporation, doing shit like this is bad.

[Anonymous No.15464959]

>>15464955
Toyota is on a Titanic. Big ship, but its a sinking one.

Tesla is on the lifeboat. Small boat, but one that will survive and live on to a successful future.

It doesn't matter how many cars someone make today, it matters how many cars they will continue to make, and what profit there will be.

Toyota sold 10M cars in 2022
Tesla sold 1.4M cars in 2022

Guess who made more profit? Tesla. LMAO.

[Anonymous No.15464960]

>>15464957
i find it funny. if you weren't such a faggot, you would too.

[Anonymous No.15464962]

>>15464957
So you're mad at him because you're a stock holder and he's increased his Tesla share prices by 6X since that post.

Wow, what a person. Imagine being mad at a person who has increased your money by 600%

[Anonymous No.15464963]

>>15464960
I would what?

[Anonymous No.15464964]

>>15464962
I've never bought tesla shares and I never will because it's funded on hype and delusion.

[Anonymous No.15464965]

>>15464963
You're mad he bought something with his own money?

Did you cut off your penis or something?

[Anonymous No.15464967]

>>15464965
I mad that he's openly trying to create wechat in the US and has made statements regarding this multiple times, yes.

[Anonymous No.15464968]

>>15464964
You're mad he made Tesla stock owners lot of money? LMAO

Absolute state of seethedom

[Anonymous No.15464971]

>>15464967
Cope more lmao.

Imagine being mad at someone for no reason and trying to find a sliver of excuse without any substance. This is propaganda in realtime.

[Anonymous No.15464973]

>>15464959
>Guess who made more profit? Tesla. LMAO.
Where are you getting your numbers? Tesla made $30 billion in 2022. Toyota made $53 billion.

[Anonymous No.15464975]

>>15464973
>$30 billion
Typo, it was $20 billion.

[Anonymous No.15464976]

>>15464971
I've given dozens of reasons and you keep changing the subject and I elaborate on why that also bothers me, then you say that's the only reason.

[Anonymous No.15464978]

>>15464121
>His rocket tech competition fails harder, faster and stronger anon. Simple as.


I don't understand how someone can think this, SpaceX has a NASA cargo contact with Dragon1 with a dozen successful launches and has the manned capsule contract with multiple successful launches.

SpaceX is basically a mirror showing the actual space geeks from the posers, the reddit "I fucking love science" crowd.

If you don't think SpaceX has achieved things no one has ever done before , you're just Objectively wrong.

Who gives a fuck what Elon is like as a person ? I'm never going to meet him or be his friend.

[Anonymous No.15464985]

>>15464973
Yea thats for entire 2022, you realize that as time moves on, Tesla grows larger and larger right?

Do you not understand how Tesla grows?

[Anonymous No.15464986]

>>15464976
>dozens of unsubstantiated reasons means my hate is valid
LMAO

Its your programming at work.

[Anonymous No.15464989]

>>15464954
>Did Elon buy Tesla?
>Yes
>Yes but here's a blogpost on how he bought Tesla
Why did you reply to me? Also I think Spacex is the one company under Elon's belt that doesn't suck, but that has everything to do with the people working under him, not the series of unrealistic and broken promises he's made as CEO of the company since the beginning.

[Anonymous No.15464990]

>>15464978
>Who gives a fuck what Elon is like as a person?
What makes you think they care about anything other than Elon as a person represented by reddit/far left media propaganda? LMAO

You're arguing with someone who's fully indoctrinated by propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15464993]

>>15464985
>Yea thats for entire 2022, you realize that as time moves on, Tesla grows larger and larger right?
So does Toyota? What's your point? You're literally making shit up and posting provably false shit.

[Anonymous No.15464994]

>>15464989
>Elon sucks Tesla is the most successful new car company in the last 100 years and has profit beating the most successful car company
>Elon sucks because Tesla is a failure
>Elon sucks because SpaceX is nothing to do with him
>Elon sucks because he has everything to do with Tesla

[Anonymous No.15464995]

>>15464993
Toyota isn't a growth company, LMAO.

Toyota sells ~10M cars for the last 10 years. Tesla 10 years ago sold handful of cars. Tesla 5 years ago sold 245K total the entire year. Tesla today sold 422K in the first quarter alone. And set to sell ~2M cars by end of year. 3M next year, 3.5M after that, and so on.

Toyota is a sinking ship.

[Anonymous No.15464997]

>>15464995
With gas car bans on the horizon, Toyota is set to take the L. Every other major car company is trying to catch up with Tesla, except Toyota and the other Japanese car companies who are going the hydrogen route. They're gonna shrink in the next 5 years guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.15464998]

>>15464994
Strawman: the post. I don't hate Elon for spacex, and if that was the only company he owned I'd actually think he's great. That being said, it has everything to do with the people working under him as Elon routinely makes false promises about his space company like everything else.

I never said Tesla was a failure, I said it's overvalued based on hype alone and Elon absolutely plays into and abuses the hype and uses it to continue to make blatantly false promises like he always does. Maybe I'm wrong about his contributions to Tesla, based on this post >>15464954 but I'm also skeptical of this post based on how much incorrect information is in it.

[Anonymous No.15465006]

>>15464995
>Tesla today sold 422K in the first quarter alone. And set to sell ~2M cars by end of year. 3M next year, 3.5M after that, and so on.
Yes that's called hype. It's still valued at more than every other car company combined. Even if it is growing, it's growing solely based on hype and projections.

[Anonymous No.15465009]

>>15464998
>Tesla is overvalued
Tesla is only overvalued, if you think Tesla doesn't have room to grow. If they double in the next 2-3 years, their P/E will drop down to the level of Toyota. Thats what you think is their accurate valuation right? You think Tesla has no room to grow beyond the next 2-3 years? LMAO

[Anonymous No.15465013]

>>15465009
>It's only overvalued if you think the company doubles in size and it's current share price p/e remains the same
??????????????

[Anonymous No.15465014]

>>15465006
>we'll deliver 420K cars
>delivers 422K cars
NOOO ITS HYPE!!! TESLA IS FAKE!! ELON BAD!! ITS OVERVALUED!!!

Seethe more retard

[Anonymous No.15465018]

>>15465013
>Tesla is bad because people in the future will overvalue it and people currently banking on future growth of Tesla are at fault for thinking Tesla will grow

[Anonymous No.15465022]

>>15465018
>Tesla isn't overvalued because in order to have a realistic valuation the company has to double in size and not change its current P/E ratio
I'm arguing with a bunch of retards. Have a good night.

[Anonymous No.15465023]

>>15465022
>NOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OF FUTURE GROWTH
Is that your "realistic valuation"? LMAO

[Anonymous No.15465024]

>>15465022
In other words, growth companies should not be evaluated on growth metrics but on the metrics of stagnating companies' flat growth rate

[Anonymous No.15465026]

>>15464997
>With gas car bans on the horizon
Do you think this will actually happen?

[Anonymous No.15465027]

>>15465023
>Current price is based on future hype
Been saying this the whole thread. What are you even arguing?

[Anonymous No.15465033]

>>15465026
China/Europe has already banned it. California is set to. US will follow regardless, even if no federal law is passed because EVs become cheaper/cheaper to make with more mass production

[Anonymous No.15465035]

>>15465024
>In other words, growth companies should not be evaluated on growth metrics
Realistic growth metrics. Even if it sells as many cars as Toyota it's still valued at 3x Toyota's current valuation TODAY. Everyone in the world has to be driving a Tesla in 3 years for it to be a realistic valuation. Which is kind of hilarious because Tesla is trying to get self driving taxis, which would completely kill their own sales.

[Anonymous No.15465040]

>>15465027
If there's no growth, stock stays deflated. If there's growth expectation, stock inflates. There's no "over valuation compared to other car companies" Other car companies aren't growth, they're the opposite. They're zombie companies staying afloat for now. They're all set to lose as Tesla takes shares of their market year by year, month by month.

[Anonymous No.15465050]

>>15465035
Tesla sells 1/8 the car as Toyota. But makes as much profit as Toyota.
If Tesla sells 10M cars like Toyota, but with 8X much profit, then they ought to be valued 8X shouldn't they?

So with that in mind, what if they're not just standing still at 10M per year sales, but is set to grow 50% YOY for the next 10 years? Would you still value than only 8X of Toyota? Or 8X x 3-5 years? Or maybe if you're ultra bull 8X x 10 years?

[Anonymous No.15465056]

>>15465050
And thats just the car business too. If you add the energy business, the AI business, robot business, how many multiples do you need? What if you're conservative and only want to add 0.2X multiple for energy, 0.2X for AI, 0.2X for robot? That would still add to the valuation. Thats with Tesla stagnating and not innovating at all for the next 10 years, without any other new products/etc.

[Anonymous No.15465085]

>>15465040
>Elon's company will double in size, it has only up to go!
>Every other company won't innovate and Elon will have no competition
>His company only has to double in size in the next three years while not changing share price to have an accurate share price
>It's not delusion based off hype!

[Anonymous No.15465092]

>>15465050
Yes because the larger a company grows, its profit margins stay exactly the same.
>>15465056
>If you add the energy business, the AI business, robot business, how many multiples do you need?
>That would still add to the valuation. Thats with Tesla stagnating and not innovating at all for the next 10 years, without any other new products/etc.
>Tesla will make great progress in robotics, non-car related energy savings, and AI but also stagnate

[Anonymous No.15465099]

>>15465085
The world is moving towards electrification. The only companies that can provide electric cars will survive. Companies that cant deliver will bleed dry. Other companie's innovation will only lead to AT BEST stop the bleed, but they will have to move the mountains to do so, there's no sign any company other than Tesla and some Chinese companies are doing that. At best, most legacy companies are doing half hearted measures, which is realistic given it takes enormous efforts/scale to make move mountains

You can hate these facts, but you can't deny it.

[Anonymous No.15465102]

>>15465092
Denial will get you nowhere. The skepticism has no basis in reality either. So as I've said earlier, its all baseless claims clumped up together to create an impression of a strong case against Tesla/Musk, but there's not a single substantiated claim against Musk.

[Anonymous No.15465103]

>>15465099
>there's no sign any company other than Tesla and some Chinese companies are doing that
Nearly every car company is making an EV now. Even fucking Harley Davidson has an EV motorcycle.

[Anonymous No.15465112]

>>15465102
>The skepticism has no basis in reality either.
Yes, being skeptical of a company that has 2% of cars on the road being worth more than the conglomerate of companies that make up the other 98% of cars on the road has no basis in reality.

[Anonymous No.15465113]

>>15465103
Making an EV and delivering are two different sets of reality.

[Anonymous No.15465114]

>>15465112
Whats next? Nokia/Motorolla controls 98% of the phone market, iPhones are 1%?

[Anonymous No.15465130]

>>15465114
People fail to understand there's a train heading straight towards their face with regards to EV adoption. Its not a matter of IF, but a when. Those who can make the most cars, the affordable, reliable, and advanced, will take the market by the storm. Thats why Tesla is pushing forward year after year, growing 50% YOY for the last 10 years straight.

[Anonymous No.15465158]

>>15465114
You're acting as if Teslas haven't been on the market for 6 years.

>>15465130
What you seem to fail to understand is Tesla doesn't have a monopoly on EVs despite being by far the most visible and well known/marketed brand of EV. Ford, Chevrolet, and Toyota are smarter than you. If you think they're not investing in EVs you're retarded.
https://evadoption.com/ev-sales/evs-percent-of-vehicle-sales-by-brand/

[Anonymous No.15465159]

>>15459571
>/sci/ creams over Elon.
kek how new are you? this board fucking hates elon. this board just hates thunderfag more.

[Anonymous No.15465162]

>>15465159
>this board fucking hates elon.
Nah /pol/ likes Elon so now /sci/ likes Elon despite shitting on him for the last decade.

[Anonymous No.15465165]

>>15465158
6 years ago, Tesla barely delivered 100K cars the entire year. Today, they deliver 100K in 2-3 weeks.

>Tesla doesn't have a monopoly on EV
Teslas are 80-90% of EVs in the US roads today. Thats effective monopoly. On top of that, in US ~70% of EVs are Tesla.

If Ford/Chevy/Toyota are smarter, how come they're not selling more cars? How come their entire yearly output COMBINED is less than Tesla's monthly output? How come they make -100% profit on each EV they sell, while Tesla makes ~20%? How come you're here seething about Tesla's success instead of Toyota/Ford/Chevy who don't produce anything?

[Anonymous No.15465167]

>>15465165
On top of that, in US ~70% of EVs SALES are Tesla

[Anonymous No.15465178]

>>15465165
>Teslas are 80-90% of EVs in the US roads today. Thats effective monopoly. On top of that, in US ~70% of EVs are Tesla.
https://insideevs.com/news/661999/us-electric-car-sales-feb2023/
It's 58% but you've been been exaggerating this whole thread and making shit up so why would you stop now.

>If Ford/Chevy/Toyota are smarter, how come they're not selling more cars?
I said they're smarter than you, but you can't read. So how many cars have you sold? On top of that they're leading car sales world wide by a huge margin.
>How come their entire yearly output COMBINED is less than Tesla's monthly output?
If we're talking EVs specifically this is false because you're using a ridiculous metric. Tesla does make 58% of EV sales with ford and chevrolet making up a combined 11% of sales. No reason to exaggerate here but you do it anyways.
>How come they make -100% profit on each EV they sell
They're late to the game and they can afford to lose profit on their cars because they make tremendous amounts of profit on their other vehicles.

>>15465167
You said that in your post already. Which if you're going to make two posts about it, please post a source.

[Anonymous No.15465186]

>>15465178
They're late to start, late to produce, late to sell, late to scaling, late to profitability. They missed the opportunity.

In other words, Tesla created create own opportunity by creating the EV market, they became the masters of their fate. They control their future destiny, while others can only hope to follow in Tesla's lead.

[Anonymous No.15465196]

>>15465186
I'm not wasting anymore time with you lol. All you've done is make shit up, speculate, refuse to source anything, then call my skepticism of Tesla blind hatred. I don't know why I'm arguing with you. It's pointless. Have a good night.

[Anonymous No.15465199]

>>15465186
Also there's no EV from Toyota in the US. By the time Toyota comes with EV in the US, Tesla would be selling ~3-4M cars per year, if not more. By the time Toyota starts to sell ~1M EV per year, Tesla maybe selling 10M EVs per year.

This isn't 50 years from now, its within the next ~5-6 years too.

[Anonymous No.15465202]

>>15465196
This is gaslighting lmao.

If you dont want to face reality, thats your own delusion.

[Anonymous No.15465203]

Kek elon is based and the seething about him is just embarrassing.
You don't just randomly stumble into multiple companies that disrupt their sector without knowing what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.15465224]

>>15465203
They operate on one principle, "but he's a billionaire", therefore he's bad. Because he's billionaire and bad, therefore he must not have any achievements, therefore must have stolen it and lied about it, therefore he must not be better than me. Therefore I'm better than him.

Marxist ideology at work. Its a trashy ideology.

[Anonymous No.15465240]

>>15464878
Its proof that propaganda doesn't have to make any sense. As long as someone tunes in enough times to the media and hears the same words multiple times, the chatGPT will respond in same manner.

People that cannot think for themselves just parrot the media propaganda and can be safely called NPCs at that point.

[Anonymous No.15465261]

>>15459571
>suddenly everyone's taking turns to ride him

[Anonymous No.15465526]

>>15459571
No need to be so jealous of other's successes, Anon.

[Anonymous No.15465533]

>>15459571
if elon musk was so pro free speech why did he elect a WEF executive as the new CEO?
whats elon musk's end game with this or was he pressured into this?

[Anonymous No.15465613]

>>15465533
They made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

[Anonymous No.15465620]

>>15459571
2016 sure was a year

[Anonymous No.15465644]

>>15459571
/sci/ doesn't cream themselves over Elon
They cream themselves over Space X and the subsequent drawn out death of oldspace and re invigoration of space development after Space X lit a fire under the asses of the entire industry.

[Anonymous No.15465648]

>>15460278
The Elon paradox

>Elon is a gigantic retard barely capable of tying his own shoes, He contributes nothing to his companies and is just a money man
>And yet any time something goes wrong with his companies it is Elon's fault specifically because he is personally responsible for all of the designs and construction of the products made by his companies.

[Anonymous No.15465649]

[Anonymous No.15465753]

>>15459571
Fundamentally your criticism of others amounts to begging. If you think you can do better then go do it.

[Anonymous No.15465756]

>>15460908
Discuss science of fuckoff to >>>/pol/ retard.

[Anonymous No.15465762]

>>15465159
I actually like Elon more now. I was aggressively neutral for a decade as I thought he was overrated. But since 2019 his companies are actually generating revenue and unique IP as opposed to just buying.

Would never be cucked enough to work for him though.
>That NeuraLink white paper author's list

[Anonymous No.15465769]

>>15465648
>it is Elon's fault specifically because he is personally responsible for all of the designs and construction of the products
Notice how you hallucinate imaginary accusations to validate your persecution complex

[Anonymous No.15465807]

>>15465769
So if Elon is not at fault what is your actual bitching about?

Why not go build your own IP instead of bitching and using /pol/itics posting to beg for unwarranted money?

[Anonymous No.15466358]

lotta elon dick sucking in this thread lmao

[Anonymous No.15466362]

>>15459571
Decades of being fed neoliberal and racist propaganda about how the only reason we aren't living in a Star Trek future with flying cars and robot waifus and catgirl maids RIGHT NOW is because of too many regulations and giving too much welfare money to black people.

[Anonymous No.15466380]

>>15459571
Holy shit, /sci/ actually likes Elon? Lmao holy fuck

[Anonymous No.15466480]

>Musk hate when Musk company achieves something
NOOO HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!! HES FRAUD!!

>Musk hate when Musk company delays
NOOO HE DID IT!! HE'S A FAILURE!! FRAUD!!


>meanwhile in reaity
Musk continues to run multiple successful companies worth nearly trillion dollars, with large major stake in them and living the dream, simultaneously and leads them to success after success, with few delays

[Anonymous No.15466557]

>>15466480
Seriously the cognitive dissonance with this man is just astounding. You can not like him and also admit he's a genuinely hypercompetent executive. SpaceX is literally the worlds premier launch provider. Over half the satellites in orbit currently are SpaceX satellites. Over %80 of the upmass produced by any launch provider is through SpaceX. Often in response to that I'll hear that Musk was simply good at hiring the right people who secretly do all the work and make all the decisions, and if that was the case I'd simply ask why any of the dozen other legacy and start up providers we're somehow utterly unable to hire any of these people? Does Musk have an absolute tyranny over this unnamed secret pool of genius talents? Does he keep them stocked in a warehouse somewhere? Eventually you have to reconcile yourself to the fact that he does indeed know how to run a company. I have no doubt either that he'll make Twitter profitable to the consternation of a great many shitlibs.

[Anonymous No.15466793]

>>15466362
Go back to leftypol nigger lover

[Anonymous No.15466804]

>>15459571
I don't care about Elon one way or the other

I just think SpaceX has done some great things, which is objectively true. Who else has self-landing orbital rockets?

Tesla I don't care about. And Twitter, I think he's making bad decisions with that. But he might make it better in the future, I dunno. Who cares.

[Anonymous No.15467582]

ngl i'm waiting for elon to flip back to lefty to see how 4chan backtracks on him again.

[bodhi No.15467593]

>>15461144
die horribly Twitter troon

[bodhi No.15467602]

>>15464948
his tweet had little if anything to do with what happened with GameStops share price. of course you are a poor and stupid socialist tranny so you don't know this.

[Anonymous No.15467609]

>>15464978
>Who gives a fuck what Elon is like as a person ? I'm never going to meet him or be his friend.
It matters because money is power. What he is like affects millions of people by how he uses his massive amount of power.

[Anonymous No.15467616]

>>15465112
he leveraged the overvalued stock to buy twitter which was smart, very smart

[Anonymous No.15467630]

>>15467602
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/26/gamestop-jumps-as-elon-musk-tweets-out-reddit-board-thats-hyping-stock.html

[Anonymous No.15467638]

>>15467630
>>15467602
You're retarded and clearly started paying attention to musk in 2022. Gamestop literally soared because of his tweet. It was already doing crazy shit and way overvalued, but that tweet more than doubled the stock price.

[Anonymous No.15467725]

>>15463476
hi blundercuck, how many times are you going to debunk spacex when starships start delivering astronauts the moon?

[Anonymous No.15467795]

>>15467725
>when starships start delivering astronauts the moon?
>we will land humans on MARS by 2020
>No-no by next year, I swear
>I am confident we will have humans on the Moon by 2023
>We will put humans into space next year
>T-Two more years fellow Muskrats
Kek. Schizo level delusions. Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.15467850]

>>15467795
>Starship didn't hit it's target timeline for completely revolutionizing space travel forever
>This means it is a failure

[Anonymous No.15468138]

>>15460297
>He built
>He
like literally welded shit together? or designed it? ran calculations? wrote formulas? or tweeted about it?

[Anonymous No.15468351]

>>15465178
>It's 58%
You're a supreme retard who forgot to scroll down a bit and read this part
>Tesla - 95,829 (up 35% from 71,188) and 58% share (down form 72% a year ago)
That man was correct but a bit outdated on the current share.

[Anonymous No.15468428]

>>15468138
>wagghhh he didn't build an entire rocketship by himself by fucking hand
If he did he would die of old age before he could construct the first ship prototype, let alone the giant tower, tank farm, quick-disconnect arms and underground deluge