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From an evolutionary perspective, conservative in-group preference makes sense. But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?

https://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

>> No.15453504

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
Does this model allow for ethnocentrics to disguise their own ethnocentrism whole encouraging me.bers of other ethnicities to practice humanitarianism? If not, then if I were a betting man, I would wager that adding such behavior to the model will give you a better idea of the answer to your question.

>> No.15453520

>>15453491
Its adapt or die. And conservative ingroups stagnate.

>> No.15453539

>>15453491
There was probably some evolutionary benefit to using "good times" in northern climates to explore different ideas and expand the in-group. If so, then it makes sense that modern technology and comfort would send that impulse into overdrive. Suddenly every piece of shit is just "misunderstood," and all the ideas that worked for centuries are "reactionary and oppressive"

>> No.15453546

>>15453520
Progressive liberal ideology that centres around foregoing children and ethnically replacing your people has only been a "dominant strategy" for 50 years at most thus far. It might last, it might not.

>> No.15453570

>>15453546
Your race wouldn't be getting replaced in the first place, if it were fit enough to have just as many children in the current environment. Your best bet in conserving your genes is to mix it with a more successful race.

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>>15453570
Educated secular pro-contraception pro-abortion urbanised society with working women = low birth rates.
It has nothing to do with eugenics, even within our society the intelligent people give birth at a lower rate than uneducated people.
It's not a winning strategy either, zerg rush meta is dead.
They don't have any higher rates of scientific advancement.
China only just barely competes against the US with 1.4 billion people via IP theft and slave labour. The rest of the global south is irrelevant.

>> No.15453608

>>15453491
Blatant fraud
There is no other reason for not including tit for tat than that it ruins the result you want.

>> No.15453615
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>>15453491
it's literally tit-for-tat, aka, capitalism, aka, high-trust society.

as for the gif...
traitors die off because they are, on a long-enough time scale, forced to destroy one another.
selfishness die off because of the same reason, and are more prone to stagnation.
humanitarians are stable in the sense that everyone wants to work with them, even the traitors and the selfish, because who else can they cheat off of? stable, but not strong.
ethnocentrism wins because it's tit-for-tat: betray me, i betray you; help me, i help you. namely, however, because of help-me-help-you procedure, the rewards get better, and thus, ethnocentrists accumulate those who want to work together to get bigger rewards and shun away corruption and cheaters.

>> No.15453616

>>15453600
It doesn't matter how many times you pat yourself on the back over papers and pieces of metal. You are a genetic failure and an evolutionary dead end if you aren't passing on your genes.

>> No.15453619

>>15453570
>le breeding meme
The only reason why people are having less children is because it's economically difficult to care for them since prices and taxes are getting hiked up while salary remains the same, but that same rising tax comes from needless wars and importing niggers who make 10 children that they dindu feed so they live off of government money which others pay for with their taxes, importing niggers is literally a ploy to kill the local populace, but it's a bad one, because once niggers overpopulate the planet this rock might as well be dead, civilizations will no longer exist and niggers will kill eachother or starve since they are too retarded to work or take care of themselves or their children

>> No.15453628

>>15453616
I'm saying that they're not a successful race because they have higher fertility rates. The biggest shitholes on the planet have the highest fertility rates.

>> No.15453649

>>15453615
Capitalism isn't tit for tat. Capitalism is I defect, what are you going to do with that, stupid loser?

>> No.15453654

>>15453628
And I'm saying all these medals, "achievements," cities etc, simply aren't success. It's a group patting itself on the back over nonse, while other races outbreed them in the same environment.

>> No.15453662

>>15453654
*It's a group patting itself on the back over nonsense...

>> No.15453663

>>15453654
Now take away the free money that the government gives them and see what happens lmao

>> No.15453693 [DELETED] 

>>15453654
Then it should be trivial for a few members of your race to fly to South America, Africa, India and East Asia. Then quickly replace the native populations! Because your race is so "successful." After all, if they can thrive in those "shitholes," you'd be able to thrive twice as well!?

>> No.15453702

>>15453663
You mean like in all those "shithole" countries that they're thriving in?

>> No.15453718

>>15453702
Thriving in what sense? Like bacteria thrives? Would be a shame if an inferior race sprayed it with antibacterial solution.

>> No.15453730

>>15453718
Go fly yourself and your husband to one of those "shithole" countries. It should be trivial for you to replace the native population. :^)

>> No.15453731

>>15453730
Why would I want to be absorbed by bacteria?

>> No.15453738

>>15453731
You're a genetic dead-end and you're admiting it? It should be trivial for you to outbreed the local population with all your "success."

>> No.15453745

>>15453702
>thriving
If you call starving, shitting in the street and chopping eachothers limbs off thriving then you need to lay off the crackpipe

>> No.15453746

>>15453738
No. The only hope we have is maintaining our distance with the bacteria lest we catch a cold.

>> No.15453750

>>15453745
And you'd call going extinct because you are unable to have children "thriving?"
>>15453746
Yet You're such a failure you can't even compete with "bacteria." You're beyond pathetic.

>> No.15453752

>>15453750
Uh oh poopy

>> No.15453754

>believing in unfalsifiable evolutionary psychology
peak midwit

>> No.15453846

>>15453491
Modern society doesn't punish these traits, so they stick around

>> No.15453852

>>15453570
Whites are being replaced by parasitic races that rely on them for survival, so when whites vanish these parasites will also disappear. Can't really call a parasite fit when it causes the extinction of its host

>> No.15453870

>>15453491
Females don’t need to have in-group preference. The males are the ones with the strongest in-group preference. So most liberals are women and weak men, and their beliefs are strengthened by their desire to be politically correct, so they just parrot whatever the media tells them. One hundred years ago 95% of women would be against immigration, whereas now it’s probably only 20% or so

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15453899

The end goal is to have a world with no clear races, cultures, values, identities etc. Everyone will become mystery meat of all the races, that’s how they want every single human being to be like. They want to erase borders, they want people to not follow a religion, they want everyone to speak english. They don’t want to have a clear distinction between male and female, everyone will be whatever they identify as. Traditional families will disappear. This population is docile, easily manipulated, only cares about material things. The corporate elites would have full control.

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>>15453750
>And you'd call going extinct because you are unable to have children "thriving?"
And that didn't become a problem until subhumans started being imported in, which by law of causality implies that people were better off before, ergo they're not thriving and they're just dragging down everyone else with them.

>> No.15453995

>>15453852
Yet there are billions in South America, Asia, Africa, India ect. Places with almost no whites. Your dead-end of a race is weak and unfit. You are delusional and coping with this fact.
>>15453932
A race can't handle competition? That's called being unfit for survival. There wouldn't even be a need to import labor if your weak failure of a race actually reproduced.

>> No.15454006

>>15453995
I'm Asian and calling it as I see it. South/Central America can survive on their own, but Africa and the migrants in the US and Europe are completely parasitic and reliant on their white host
I think you're too deep in this evolution is hyper determistic when humans don't even follow normal nature rules, whatever bullshit we can come up with is what becomes the "most fit organism". Nowdays in the west the most fit organism is technically being a retarded woman with 10 children from 10 different parents
But we all know that's unsustainable long term

>> No.15454034

>>15453491
If you inject liberal out-group preference to your enemies (the immigrant minorities in your country) and maintain in-group preference to your own people, you win.

>> No.15454285

>>15453491
It's about not looking racist. Suburban whites claim to love other races more than whites but they still move to live with only whites if they can afford it.
social engineering. At first it took the army to force blacks and whites together. Then after entire generations were raised their whole lives hearing from tv and schools how racism is bad, all the way to today. Racism from whites was campaigned against so hard that now we are trained to be scared of being seen as racist. Meanwhile the other groups were told they are victims and it's ok to to have pride and preference, everything bad in your life is white peoples fault (rich whites , but they blame is all equally).

>> No.15454305

In group preference is fine but slavery and fascism will always lose. That's like when a parasite kills the host it's infecting by being overly damaging. You want to feed off humanity with your ingroup preference but it must not be too virulent

>> No.15454324

>>15454305
>but slavery and fascism will always lose.
China is/will be the most poweful nation of the century, and it's a fascist nation.
Slavery has been the norm for thousands of years, still exists to this day in many parts of the world, and you could even call a lot of aspects of modern western society 'covert' slavery.
Your convictions are idealistic and childish

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>>15453491
Nash equilibria are often absolutely horrible places to live

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>>15454324
Electric cars couldn't exist without slavery

>> No.15455085

>>15453491
The desire to be all things to all people, rather than to just be a member of your own kind, is a big part of "the god complex"
Ernest Jones, in 1913, was the first to construe extreme narcissism, which he called the "God-complex", as a character flaw. He described people with God-complex as being aloof, self-important, overconfident, auto-erotic, inaccessible, self-admiring, and exhibitionistic, with fantasies of omnipotence and omniscience. He observed that these people had a high need for uniqueness.

>> No.15455110

>>15453491
Liberalism is a byproduct of genetic and cultural decay; it is a consequence of modernity.

It's something that thrives in a village community, but can't be outsourced. I think a lot of white liberals have also subconsciously or consciously believed that they'll retain their status regardless of immigration. That's mostly been true until the tipping point is met, which is what we have seen for the past 10-20 years

>> No.15455112

>>15453619
It's not economically difficult. People just want to retain high living standards AND have children, and many just choose the former.

>> No.15455187

>>15455112
there is no high standard of living without children, being a genetic dead end is as low as it gets, you may as well have never lived at all.

>> No.15455238

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
It emerged inside societies and countries built by conservatives. Being ultra-liberal does not really hurt your genes as long as you live in an ethnostate. It only becomes a problem once your liberalism causes you to destroy that ethnostate.

>>15453520
This. We absolutely must get diversity from Africa. Europeans have shown that they are not fit to survive on their own.

>> No.15455469

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
Women and children tend to be more open to different tribed and ethnicities, so I guess that the spread of basedboys and manchildren had a part to play

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>>15455085
atheism is also part of "the god complex"
you can't presume to be god yourself if you presume that there is a god higher than yourself

>> No.15456515

>>15453491
they arise out of the competing need for exogamy. Physical distance used limited such behaviour to only people with slightly more genetic distance. Almost all liberals live in or are born in homogeneous enclaves

>> No.15456532

>>15453899
While they reserve ethnocentrism for themselves to become a dominant class.

>> No.15457189

>>15456532
The wall around Israel could easily be converted to a means of keeping them inside rather than a means of them keeping foreigners out.

>> No.15457197

You're conflating a lot of emergent properties of modern culture with the underlying genetic dispositions that can actually be understood through evolutionary biology

You're also confusing someone having a larger in-group with having a preference for an out-group

>> No.15457327

>>15453491
It's propaganda spread by the enemy that managed to convince easily manipulateable people (women and basedboys)

>> No.15458580

>>15457327
>women and basedboys
women and sºyboys

>> No.15458742

>>15453570
This
>we deserve success because… we just do!!
Whatever group is best suited to excel an a given environment does, simple as

>> No.15458795

>>15453899
why are you writing "they"?
those sound like great ideals to me, only a braindead retard would want to retain all that bullshit for zero reason
in the future when we have instant travel anywhere, how retarded must you be to think different places will still have different cultures?
forgot to turn on your brain sometime lately, did you?
or in the distant past, perhaps?

>> No.15458803

>>15458795
>when we have instatlnt travel

>> No.15458830

>>15458803
travel times between different places has been constantly decreasing throughout history
you're retarded if you think technology will just suddenly stagnate
in perhaps ~50-100 years we're inevitably going to have ways to transport people anywhere on the planet nearly free of charge and freely available within just an hour or two
then what?
"muh culturez!!"?
retard

>> No.15459009

>>15458795
>>15458830
get boosted to blast off into space

>> No.15459046

>>15453570
You are right, in a way. A large portion of whites are unfit, so are more intelligent people. There is a difference between a degenerate organism and a dysgenic organism: a society has the ability to change what is selected for, we should select for traits we like in humans similarly to how we select traits in livestock.

>> No.15459047

>>15453520
So why aren't diverse parts of the world booming or doing well? India. Iran. Iraq. Lebanon. Brazil. Mexico. Most of Africa. It's the countries that are the least diverse that do well. Japan. Germany. Poland.

America is different bc we took in tond of elite poeple. America could survive ad long as it was mostly white. But nice that there are tons of spics along with blacks. America is fucked. America will resemble brazil by 2040.

>> No.15459068

Imbreeding. Specifically eastern countries who then brought their culture to ours

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>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
Mental illness causes it.

>> No.15459461

>>15458795
>how retarded must you be to think different places will still have different cultures?
mate places have noticably different cultures when you travel 15 miles, nevermind thousands. fucking idiot

>> No.15459508

>>15453491
It's somewhat illusory because (white) liberals actually have a very strong in-group preference... for other (white) liberals. It's only a small part of them that actually practice what they preach and miscegenate, which implies that it's more of a social degeneration propagated by midwits. More often, whites with high outgroup preference are on the fringes and have always existed in small numbers like random aberrations and tend to emigrate and/or actually miscegenate, which is self correcting considering their offspring aren't white.

>> No.15459515

>>15453491
Superior tech lets you defeat anyone and everyone. OOOGA from village you hate comes over to join with new rock slingshot, you bang him over the head or let him in. You let him in, you win. Etc.

The 1/100 successes make it all worthwhile.

>> No.15460835

>>15459508
its funny that whites who race mixing are considered to have out-group preference by any other race that race mixes with whites is never called into question. its as if its a given fact that other races should prefer race mixing with whites over staying with their own kind.

>> No.15460994

>>15453546
more like on and off for the last 200 years.

>> No.15461001

>>15460994
what country could you possibly be talking about?

>> No.15461033

>>15453491
The idea that mate choice preferences can be boiled down to conservative in-group vs liberal out-group is just the stupidest thing I've ever heard

>> No.15461658

>>15453619
>is because it's economically difficult to care for them
amish families have 18 kids each and they're just farmers, none of them are rich

>> No.15463085

>>15453491
Through mutation, then the ease of gentle selection pressures of civilization. Spiteful mutants, Ed Dutton, etc.

>> No.15463192

>>15459047
But both groups do the evolutionary critical things, survive and reproduce. Having modern tech or society or whatever you call booming is not better by those metrics.
Idiot

>> No.15463235

>conservatives
>in-group
You couldn't even conserve the ladies' room.
Conservatism is a non-ideology, go vaxx yourself like the liberals or whatever.

>> No.15463368

>>15461658
people who are too selfish and narcissistic to ever take care of anyone other than themselves will always make excuses not to have children

>> No.15464530

>>15453491
Why do ant colonies exist?

It's the same thing. As life progresses it's reach it changes the scale at which it unfolds.

>> No.15464617

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_game_theory
>see kin selection altruism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixation_index
>genetic distance

As you can clearly see, being so genetically similar that you are right on the border of inbreeding is the most successful survival strategy, and when groups that are this genetically similar do tasks together their success rate is higher BECAUSE of their genetic similarity. Just don't fuck your first cousin. Or your sister.

Protip: Tribalism is the only way humans have equilibrium with earth

>> No.15465460

>>15461658
same goes for mexicans
>you need to be rich to have kids
is that why populations in africa have been doubling every 25 years going back to before 1900? because africa is super wealthy?

>> No.15465747

>>15459047
>Germany is doing well
kek
literally the most cucked nation on the planet

>> No.15465898

>>15459047
>Most of Africa
Most of Africa is monoethnic, they've got less diversity there than anywhere else on the planet. Nearly all of subsaharan Africa is 100% Bantus

>> No.15467164

>>15465898
Diversity = no or fews whites

>> No.15467711

>>15467164
So you're saying the white genocide agenda is completely true and currently ongoing?

>> No.15469020

>>15453491
Human instincts can shape culture over many generations. But individual behavior is still mostly defined by upbringing. White people have been taught from birth to hate their own race after generations of cultural subversion.

>> No.15469152

>>15453570
>Your race wouldn't be getting replaced in the first place, if it were fit enough to have just as many children in the current environment.

Amish people laugh at you.

>> No.15469162 [DELETED] 

>>15454006
You're arguing with an intellectual nigger. I don't use that word often, but it's the best way to describe their lack of conception of the future.

They see birth rates TODAY and think that's the story. They don't consider 10+ generations out. Because, you know, population collapses happen. Selection events happen. They don't consider that when the western world collapses and can no longer supply Africa with food, it's game over. They don't think about all those Amish people whose population is growing in a completely self-sustainable way surviving a massive solar flare.

Just ooga booga, muh dick.

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>>15455187
>there is no high standard of living without children, being a genetic dead end is as low as it gets, you may as well have never lived at all.

Your children aren't going to survive and its your fault as a parent.

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>>15465898
The "Bantu" term grouping is ethnolingustic not ethnogenetic.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_peoples

>The Bantu peoples, or Bantu, are an ethnolinguistic grouping of approximately 400 distinct ethnic groups who speak Bantu languages, consisting of some 600 languages with varied mutual intelligibility. The languages are native to 24 countries spread over a vast area from Central Africa to Southeast Africa and into Southern Africa.[1][2] There are several hundred Bantu languages. Depending on the definition of "language" or "dialect", it is estimated that there are between 440 and 680 distinct languages.[3] The total number of speakers is in the hundreds of millions, ranging at roughly 350 million in the mid-2010s

>> No.15470022

>>15469162
the n word is racist

>> No.15470109

>>15453491
it's a genetic defect, normally evolution would take care of it but it is non-existent in modern civilization so it's allowed to grow like a cancer until the system comes crashing down

>> No.15470720

>>15453491
The evolution of liberal out-group preference, as you've alluded to, can seem counterintuitive from a basic evolutionary perspective where in-group preference (and by extension, out-group avoidance) is commonly observed. This phenomenon is traditionally understood as a mechanism to ensure survival and reproductive success by prioritizing resources and protection for individuals who are genetically related or are part of the same cooperative unit.

However, the evolutionary emergence of liberal out-group preference is not entirely without theoretical grounding. In the article you've shared, the authors propose a simulation model suggesting that out-group favoritism could arise under certain conditions of population structure and intergroup conflict. According to their model, in a setting where groups frequently encounter each other and engage in conflict, individuals who demonstrate out-group favoritism could potentially disrupt the antagonistic interactions, reducing the overall level of conflict and indirectly benefiting their own group by preserving its members.

It's important to note that this is a theoretical model and its assumptions may not perfectly map onto real-world conditions. Furthermore, it models behavior on a group level, which may not directly translate to individual behavior.

The key takeaway is that liberal out-group preference could potentially evolve in scenarios where it indirectly contributes to in-group preservation and success. The exact mechanisms, of course, would depend on a complex interplay of factors including the specific social, environmental, and historical conditions of the population in question.

>> No.15470722

>>15465898
>Cushites
>Nilotics
>Pygmys
>KhoiKhois
>Malagasay
>Fulanis

>> No.15470752

>>15453491
It didn't evolve, it devolved. Brain damage.

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>>15470720
Or more succinctly, pic related.

>> No.15471070 [DELETED] 

>>15470812
thats only very slightly more succinctly, about 12% less wordy

>> No.15471206

>>15453491
An aside, it's extremely interesting that asian american and white conservatives (affluent groups) have a in group preferences, while african American and Hispanic conservatives (impoverished groups) have out group preferences.

>> No.15471437

>>15471206
>niggers
>beaners
>out-group preference
lol, lmao

>> No.15471641

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
think of it as a slave caste survival mechanism against the ruling caste hereditary in-group preference

the origin of modern liberalism is the anglo-saxon revolt against their norman overlords

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>>15471206

>> No.15472104

>>15453491
Leftists don’t actually have out-group preference
Think about it. They lie about everything to a pathological degree, they pretend to be soft kind people and to support oppressed groups so they can predate on their weakest members. Leftists are just an expression of psychopathic parasites that actively encourage their pray to preform activities they find useful to their ends.

>> No.15472122

>>15453870
White women have a strong in group preference. Look at how they behave and not what they say. White women almost never date outside of their race, those BBC memes are just memes. White women preach slave morality while practicing master morality. They’ll tell others to give while never doing so themselves. Think about language for a second. It was never a tool of “communication” which is an abstraction, but for manipulation. Not in the Machiavellian sense, but in the sense that it causes conscious change in the environment to your desires. Tell someone, “go to the hut back at the village and get my supplies.” Is manipulation that conveys extremely complex ideas that can’t be resigned to instinct. White women have evolved to be extreme parasites. They use language to manipulate entire societies into giving to them while never providing. To the boys she says, “be nice and give her that candy so she’ll like you.” But to her daughters she’ll say, “no! Don’t give him that toy.” And her daughter will say, “but he’s my friend?” And the mother will insist that she doesn’t or she’ll be upset. All of this to instill the idea that she receives and others give.

>> No.15472686

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
Its the most socially acceptable ideology in modern times, so many default to it. Usually, conformism is a decent bet.

>> No.15472912

>>15472122
>those BBC memes are just memes
who is making those memes and who is spamming them? and why are they doing it?

>> No.15473168

>>15472912
discord trannies

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>>15473168
the same ones that spam /sci/ with transhumanist propaganda?

>> No.15473950

>>15453491
Out group preference evolves when you are treated poorly by your in-group. It's that simple and I'm surprised a 4channer fails to understand this. You're on 4chan then you were probably treated poorly by 'society' (aka. your peers/ingroup) and came here. You are literally choosing an out-group by being here.

>> No.15474667

>>15473950
>projection
just because you're an unwanted loser doesn't mean everyone else is. has it ever occurred to you that your family and your peers can't stand being around you due to aspects of your own personality? or is it all everyone else's fault and you're perfect?

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>>15469167
it is readily apparent that we would all be better off today if newton had bred his brilliant genes and passed them down the line to enrich further generations of humanity, but he didn't and instead we're stuck with (((you)))

>> No.15477274

>>15472122
>White women have a strong in group preference
they also have an even bigger preference for virtue signaling

>> No.15477291

>>15471902
Twum has in group preference fr fr no cap

>> No.15477298

>>15476300
Ah, but that assumes that the same genes which allowed Newton to describe gravity are the same genes which might allow someone to discover quantum gravity or something.

>> No.15478171

>>15477298
>t. low iq

>> No.15478179

>>15453504
Is this like that green beard thing?

>> No.15478185

>>15472912
Well the ones on /b/ are apparently part of a discord or reddit group obsessed with blacked porn they see it as their mission to evangelise the world.

>> No.15478191

>>15471641
>the origin of modern liberalism is the anglo-saxon revolt against their norman overlords
I'm listening, could you expand on this?

>> No.15478194

>>15470812
Was not expecting to read Cicero on /sci/

>> No.15479033

>>15470722
>Malagasay
azn immigrants
literally the mexicans of africa

>> No.15480092

>>15471437
Right, their out group preference is why blacks choose to live in exclusively black neighborhoods

>> No.15480767

>>15480092
minority groups all secretly wish they could be part of the majority group. jews wish they were white, so do blacks, so do azns, homos wish they could have real families like normal people do, nerds wish they could be one of the cool kids

>> No.15481922

>>15480767
‘Bioleninism’ describes a familiar phenomenon in Clown World – social rejects coming together to force their will on society at large. A feature of Clown World is that people who normally keep themselves hidden away out of shame are out and proud. Even worse, they are organised and controlling the narrative. Bioleninism is the thread that binds them all. The original Leninism was a kind of slave morality that attracted many of society’s misfits. Much like Christianity in the Roman Empire, which first became popular among slaves, Leninism first became popular among those at the bottom of society. In the case of Russia, it wasn’t slaves but drunkards, prostitutes, petty criminals and those shunned for cruelty. Characteristic of all popular slave moralities is that they bring together the resentful. Christianity did this, the original Communism did this, and now the bottom-feeders of Clown World are coming together to do it again – this is Bioleninism.

>> No.15481965

>>15480767
Jews don't wish they were goyim.
Jews are shape shifting to yellow to fit in with the Chinese look at zuck

>> No.15482190

>>15481965
Is that why he married yellow pussy?

>> No.15482245

>>15481965
They were rejected in 2015 so short-term no deal.
Long-term, i fear for China, between the rate of kike/chink marriage risng, and they number of halfbreed nigglets from their activities in africa...

Hopefully they don't lose their lust for ethnic cleansing, always served them well.

>> No.15482805

>>15482245
I guess thats an advantage of their enormous population of bug men, they can wipe out massive amounts without it being a big deal. It won't hurt them to get rid of 100 million race mixers, not that there are that many

>> No.15483027

>>15453654
They're not in the same environment. Once they're introduced to the host society, their fertility rate falls off to the baseline within 1 to 2 generations.

And of course they're success, they allow for greater reproduction. Just because they don't use it to the fullest extent doesn't mean they're not more successful in creating the conditions.

>> No.15483112

>>15458795
Not that anon, but the only correct response to people like you is a post-intellectual frenzy of violence

>> No.15483660

>>15482190
seems like the best explanation, if you look at the women the globohomo tech billionaires marry, they are all strategic marriages

>> No.15484128

>>15453520
They don't because ingroups compete with each other.
You see this in ant colonies IRL. The most common evolution strat they got is make a colony and wage perpetual war with all neighbors. If a free spot comes up, a colony of the winning side settles there and fights the mother colony.
And so on.

>> No.15484144

>>15453491
It didn't. Liberal out-group preference is the result of years of grooming by education and mass-media, in the context of marxists infiltrating universities and alike. No other group has that out-group preference.

>> No.15484687 [DELETED] 

>>15483660
once the host is sucked dry, the parasite must find a new host

>> No.15484781

>>15453491
I'm just spitballing here but both xenophobia and xenophillia have evolutionary benefits and together balance out each other's flaws.

If a person is xenophillic they are more willing to try new things, go to new places, and take risks. Sometimes that works out well and opens up new opportunities, sometimes it gets you and your entire tribe killed.
If you're xenophobic you're more adverse to risk, are more likely to reinforce traditions and focus on stability and optimization of what you already know, sometimes this builds upon the strengths and skills you have honed over many years and generations, sometimes it causes stagnation which leaves your tribe screwed when the next village over shoots you full of arrows when you only have spears.

As for outright outgroup preference over in group, that would probably be due to generations of increasing hostility towards the in group so they see ingroup preference as a liability and out group preference the most beneficial.

>> No.15484786

>>15453491
It's defective, and allowed only to survive only because of luxuries afforded by civilization; this "liberal" out-group preference would stand little shot of survival in any other time in history. The Europeans who built this civilization and all it's advancements would be horrified if they saw their people and nations today.

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>>15484781
>xenophobia for israel
>xenophillia for everyone else

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>>15484144
>the result of years of grooming by education and mass-media, in the context of marxists infiltrating universities and alike. No other group has that out-group preference.
yep, the whole concept of racism that they all believe in is a keystone of communist propaganda
>you can't trust your family and your community, you can only trust the government
thats what inevitably happens to ppl who lose their religion

>> No.15487267

>>15453491
Restricting the question to truly white liberals only: the narcissism of small differences leads them to feel more intensely opposed white conservatives than to the cultures of other ethnicities. Taking that for granted, then it's just "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

>> No.15487274

Treason.. Repeat cooperative games are Pareto equilibrium stable with deviation punishments. Cooperation will always win out if there is a punishment for treason. In fact, not only is there no deviation punishment for negative white in-group preferences, there is actually a deviation premium leading to out-group behaviour. This leads to overall group failure, and why poor whites are consistently the worst performing group in the UK for instance. Every other group has some form of social deviation punishment for in-group non-cooperation, whites are encouraged to leave their communities, compete with other whites, marry outside their group, deprioritise their group preferences, etc.

>> No.15488437 [DELETED] 

>>15487274
Oh yeah it sum game theory sheeeeiiittt up in this bitch. I feels ya

>> No.15489736

>>15482245
There are only 3000 jews in Japan, but 2000 of them are engaged in demanding immigration &/or forcing trans faggotry on the local population. Even allowing 1 is too many. They are nation wreckers

>> No.15489746

>>15453491
Half liberal half conservative populations seem to be the most adaptive when it comes to evolution.

>> No.15490412

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
In an environment where they are sufficiently protected from the harms of the out-group.
Just think of it as a mutation that is adaptively neutral in the short term arising from lack of pressure that becomes maladaptive as the white majority disappears in the long term.
It's a little more than just a random mutation since there is a lot of propaganda trying to normalize it which alters the sexual selection criteria of both sexes.

>> No.15490993

>>15486743
The funny thing is it's never about protection it's always about offensive war when it comes to racism

>> No.15491781

>>15484144
universities are brainwashing centers

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>>15491781

>> No.15493096

>>15453491
It doesn't. It's an evolutionary novelty enabled by conservative stances. For example, political beliefs have heritability. Liberals are the majority of abortions. Conservatives ban abortions.

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>>15490993
the primarily jewish anti-racists in the ussr mass murdered whites on a racial basis, not only 66 million of their own people, but tens of millions more in eastern europe and germany

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>>15493761

>> No.15494698

>>15493761
>>15494562
Sounds like whites need to stop being racist, then they could avoid this.

>> No.15494844

>>15489746
You base this on literally no evidence

>> No.15495560 [DELETED] 

>>15494844
thats how scientists typically operate, they invent a pleasing conjecture and if need be they'll lie and invent fake evidence in order to assert the truth of their desired conjecture

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>>15453491
mutation is largely random so certain traits will pop into existence from time to time that are deleterious. give it a few generations and "liberals" will be practically extinct. just like the simulation shows. "liberals" only can thrive for a short while when there is still room to expand, ie carry capacity limits are still far off from being reached. now that humanity is crowding, fertility rates plummet, and "liberals" "cuck" their line out of existence. density is the biggest predictor of fertility, even in other animals. so what happens is "liberals" who tend to live in these crowded cities are not having as many kids and are replacing their populations, which they consider themselves, with people who are ethnocentric against them. it's hilarious to watch how inherently cucked "liberals" are.

>> No.15495749

>>15495591
A system can import non-libshits and convert them somewhat indefinitely if they are headed to a sufficiently small enough region, and they are coming from one with a sufficiently large birth rate.

>> No.15496281 [DELETED] 

>>15495591
scientific proof that racism is good

>> No.15496310

>>15453491
>But how did liberal out-group preference evolve?
How did AIDS evolve?

>> No.15497817 [DELETED] 

>>15469173
right, the language just spreads all by itself, it isn't spread when native bantu speakers conquer their neighbors

>> No.15497840

>>15495591
This graph assumes that you can only use one strategy though. Theoretically there's nothing stopping ethnocentrism from getting outcompeted by some combination of Humanitarianism and traitor strategies, or Ethnocentrism and selfish.

>> No.15498266

>>15497840
The four strategies are mutually exclusives, they cannot be orthogonal.

>> No.15498342

>>15497817
Bantu expansion involved copious amounts of genocide

>> No.15498345

>>15496310
big pharma needed a scary disease to market drugs for

>> No.15498362

>>15469173
If Bantu is not a genetic group, why do arr rook same?

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>>15498342
>noooooo!!!
>bantu is just a superior language
>one day everyone will adopt it!!!

>> No.15500524

>>15498362
pure coincidence

>> No.15500569 [DELETED] 

>>15453491
It didn't, it was introduced as a behavioral engineering strategy. Evolution can frequently be overcome by manmade forces, it's not all powerful.

>> No.15500683

>>15500524
*pure cohencidence

>> No.15501373

>>15500569
Thank you for not being either a nature or nurture zealot.

>> No.15502146

>>15500569
according to the results of the horrifyingly cruel and unethical twin studies that were conducted in the mid to late 20th century by jewish american scientists, genetics is destiny

>> No.15502682

>>15453491
>liberal out-group preference evolve
it didn't. it's a weapon developed by one in-group to destroy another in-group.

>> No.15502685

>>15502682
No, it's a natural extension of behaviours from people that never had to protect their own.

>> No.15502842

>>15502682
>>15502685
The goylems didn't adopt out-group really, they simply adopted [CURRENT THING].
The liberal/leftist/treacherous cucks would have been catholics 800 years, fire worshippers in ancient persia, tengri supremacists in any of the khanates...

The vaxx is genocide the lemmings, the NPCs, the conformists, the followers, the sheeps, the zebras.

>> No.15503450

>>15453520
>destroys your nation
>adapt or die gentile

>> No.15503453

>>15465898
Africa is genetically extremely diverse despite their morphology.

>> No.15503456

>>15503453
Not really once you get south of the Sahara. You get some interesting stuff on the south and east coast where the people are Austronesian, but that's all.

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>>15503456

>> No.15503462

>>15503457
Ah I forgot pygmies. Still the minority of colonization-induced haplogroups aren't really that interesting compared to the couple overwhelming native haplogroups.

>> No.15503467

>>15453491
Probably christianity and its equality clause

>> No.15503469

>>15503467
Out-group preference is highest among atheists and anti-Christians so that sounds doubtful.

>> No.15503479

>>15453616
>It doesn't matter how many times you pat yourself on the back over papers and pieces of metal. You are a genetic failure and an evolutionary dead end if you aren't passing on your genes.
Whites colonized 2 entire continents and bred with the natives of the other to create a half white mutt race. we are the most genetically successful race in human history.

>> No.15503501

>>15503479
Either Indians or Chinese are the most successful race because they have the highest number of raw humans and thats what successful in evolutionary terms means.

>> No.15503523

>>15503501
>umm if your reproductive strategy isn't r-selective that means you're losing sweaty

>> No.15503609

>>15460835
>>15459508
the study is retarded because it's white-designed swill
the white liberals and the race-mixing POC are just lying to themselves

both groups simply subconsciously perceive whites to be superior. When consciously asked where their allegiances lie:

-The white liberal experiences cognitive dissonance because they're conflict-averse and agreeable. They don't want to seem anti-POC. So they lie.
-The POC (many, at least) experiences cognitive dissonance because they're confronted with latent feelings of inferiority. They don't want to admit that they're racist towards themselves. So they lie.

ingroup preference isn't primarily innate, most of it is malleable by way of media, exposure, and wealth differentials, among many other factors. Whites refuse to accept this because it hurts their self esteem and takes away the psychological crutch they fall back on when they experience individual (intra-white) failure.

>> No.15503621

>>15503479
Blacks are the most successful race, they colonized all 7 continents to create a 98% black (technically) mutt race.

>>15503523
Asians aren't r selected at all

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>>15502842
>The vaxx is genocide the lemmings, the NPCs, the conformists, the followers, the sheeps, the zebras.
3 more months, for real this time

>> No.15503657

>>15471206
>it's extremely interesting that asian american and white conservatives (affluent groups) have a in group preferences, while african American and Hispanic conservatives (impoverished groups) have out group preferences.

How?

rich Asians technically have at least one reason to be conservative
poor Blacks and Latinos have no reason to be conservative--this is only possible if they are complete cucks

>> No.15503690

>>15453899
isn't that the same thing you want too, except with all whites, minus the gender crap, and only the non-white languages disappearing?
also they don't actually want or care about that, that's just a natural consequence of modern civilization

>> No.15503695

>>15503627
how many boosters are you on?

>> No.15503722

>>15453870
>>15472122
white retards

>>15453870
men and women both benefit from ingroup preference.

It's just that the same biochemical mechanisms which cause ingroup preference likely also cause other things (like having a strong will, and being more combative/less tolerant of rape) which would have been selected out in women.

Being tolerant of rape is no longer an advantageous trait in modern society because rape doesn't happen.

>>15472122
no they don't. They have a perceived-power preference, just like 99% of women. Whites own all the land and resources, and thus control the media. Not rocket science.

Black, Asian, Latina, etc women all have an outgroup preference but white women have an ingroup preference? Gee willikers, nature sure works in strange ways! No, retard.

>> No.15503724

>>15503695
negative 2

I don't think you're smart enough to figure out what that means

>> No.15504309

>>15503724
Its easy to figure out that you're clearly ashamed to admit how many boosters you've had so far, you'd have just proudly stated the truth if you were ashamed of the truth

>> No.15505255 [DELETED] 

>>15503457
Thats an area of the world nearly as big as Asia and it's genetic diversity is much less. Its nearly all bantus or bantu arab mixes

>> No.15505278

>>15498362
they don't, there are more genetic differences in africans than anywhere else

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White people are the least Ethnocentric race, so you're not going to receive any "special treatment" just because you're white. That's been systematically engrained in us since we were children, via media, academia, etc.

It's something that thrives in a village community, but can't be outsourced. I think a lot of white liberals have also subconsciously or consciously believed that they'll retain their status regardless of immigration.

That's mostly been true until the tipping point is met, which is what we have seen for the past 10-20 years.
Superior tech lets you defeat anyone and everyone. OOOGA from village you hate comes over to join with new rock slingshot, you bang him over the head or let him in. You let him in, you win. Etc.

If a person is xenophillic they are more willing to try new things, go to new places, and take risks. Sometimes that works out well and opens up new opportunities, sometimes it gets you and your entire tribe killed.

If you're xenophobic you're more adverse to risk, are more likely to reinforce traditions and focus on stability and optimization of what you already know, sometimes this builds upon the strengths and skills you have honed over many years and generations, sometimes it causes stagnation which leaves your tribe screwed when the next village over shoots you full of arrows when you only have spears.

As for outright outgroup preference over in group, that would probably be due to generations of increasing hostility towards the in group so they see ingroup preference as a liability and out group preference the most beneficial.

There was probably some evolutionary benefit to using "good times" in northern climates to explore different ideas and expand the in-group. If so, then it makes sense that modern technology and comfort would send that impulse into overdrive. Suddenly every piece of shit is just "misunderstood," and all the ideas that worked for centuries are "reactionary and oppressive"

pastebin.com/14S8FHhk

>> No.15507539 [DELETED] 

>>15505278
false

>> No.15508287 [DELETED] 

>>15505278
>there are more genetic differences in africans than anywhere else
they don't have diversity in africa, they're all black.
they might have a wider spread of dna, but thats only because they breed with chimpanzees, not because of any substantial amount of genetic diversity.

>> No.15508298

>>15453520
My nigga, how is "I don't give a shit about my group" adapting? You literally don't priortize your own survival.

>> No.15508299

>>15453491
Because liberals are culty and the current cult is being anti-white

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>>15506478
>White people are the least Ethnocentric race, so you're not going to receive any "special treatment" just because you're white. That's been systematically engrained in us since we were children, via media, academia, etc

The greatest trick Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

The second greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he is the good guy.

The third greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world Whites weren't ethnocentric despite hoarding all their coffers in estate and inherentance behind closed doors.

$50 Trillion of the $59 Trillion being processed for wealth Transfered in the US alone is going to Whites anon. Just because you're stupid enough to think "diverse media presence" is equivalent to lack of ethnocentricism doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It means you just fell for the trick.

>> No.15508713

>>15508312
what does the white percentage look like once you separate jewish wealth from white wealth?
once you do that, how about racial wealth per capita?

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>>15508713
Don't know, there are surveys that notate general lifestyle figures but not total wealth for them. But if we use religion via nobel prize winner percentages (which the Jewish + Christian figure adds up to 86.5%) as a proxy for wealth calculation. It probably looks like this...

$50-51 Trillion (White)

>jewish nobel winners 21.1%
>$12.4 Trillion of US wealth
>Christian nobel winners 65.4%
>$38.5 Trillion of US wealth

Mind you these figures are about wealth that's in the process of being transfered right now. This is not the figures for the overall total wealth. The Federal Reserve notated that an estimated $124.5 Trillion out of $153.7 Trillion in total assets is White owned.

If you're interested in a breakdown of other groups the data is below.

https://usafacts.org/articles/wealth-inequality-across-races-what-does-the-data-show/

https://financebuzz.com/us-net-worth-statistics

>> No.15509139

>>15509065
that's quite a large share considering that they are only the 2% of the US population, yet they are overrepresented by 10x
meanwhile US whites who are about 50~60% are overrepresented by only about 1.1x~1.4x according to your calculations

of course religion is bound to severely undercount both whites and jews, so these calculations are at best indicative, but consider that jews are disproportionately more likely to be atheists, so that 10% of those atheists, agnostics and freethinkers would end up counting more towards jews than whites as well

in a country like the US where whites used to be the supermajority up to very recent times, and they still hold that majority, that slight overrepresentation doesn't surprise me much

blacks and hispanics on the other hand are underrepresented by 4x and 6x respectively, so perhaps they should ask jews for money rather than whites

>> No.15509676

>>15509065
interesting statistics

>> No.15510394

>>15453570
More succesfull race = immigrants from conservative societies?

>> No.15510546

>>15506478
>I think a lot of white liberals have also subconsciously or consciously believed that they'll retain their status regardless of immigration.
this is the arrogance of it, they feel superior.
they call those concerned for their own people supremacists because they actually threaten their perception by imply other races are a threat and then there's virtue signaling.
it's all quite tiresome when you realise how much is projection.