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1544218 No.1544218 [Reply] [Original]

You have a button in front of you

this button kills all religion in the universe

what do?

>> No.1544227

Not press it.
People have the right to think what they want, no matter how batshit insane or awful it is. The world would be fucking boring if everyone had the same opinion and views, wouldn't it?
Fuck that. I have no beef with religion, just sheeple.

>> No.1544238 [DELETED] 

Scientology.

>> No.1544235

I wouldn't push it, because I recognise the fact that religion can be important for certain people to cope with the problems of daily life.

People that live in terrible situations, war for example, tend to turn to religion to find some kind of calming effect.

>> No.1544237

>>1544227

and cancer is biological diversity

>> No.1544242

DOes it kill religious people? if so, then no.


Does it destroy the concept of religion in peoples minds?
still no.

Does it elevate people to a basic understanding of how logic works, thus making religion look stupid so everyone decides to throw it away because they now understand logic and fallacies?
yes.

>> No.1544243

Not press it. Religion, in moderation has it's place in society, regardless of what Dawkins and his fan club think. I'd be more tempted to press the "Destroy OP" button.

>> No.1544244

If you kill all religions you would kill science. It s as much of a belife system as anything else.

>> No.1544245

Not press it, people have a right to sacrifice themselves to God and Allah. +1 for population control

>> No.1544252

>>1544218
This is not a science thread. I push that button. If you have no religion anyway i at least narrowed down the number of people i have to go through to find and kill you.

>> No.1544255

so you press it. as soon as religion disappears, people start inventing new religions all over again.

some people just need to invent bullshit to make people look up to them, and some people just need to believe in bullshit to stay sane.

>> No.1544258

If you destroy all religion in the universe you might inadvertently destroy the right one

>> No.1544269

>>1544252
uh wtf. I ain't OP dude.

>>1544237
lemme guess, militant atheist?

>> No.1544273

>>1544258
God said all religion was wrong. Deal with it.

>> No.1544279
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1544279

militant atheist reporting in

>> No.1544290

>>1544258
There is no right one, all religions are false because they are religions.

PRESS IT !

>> No.1544291
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>>1544258
there is not right religion you nigger
>>>/x/

>>1544244
fuck you you nincompoop, religion has nothing to do with science even though they conflict sometimes

>> No.1544301

>>1544244
Science is not "believing" it's accepting that x is the most probable because that's what the data tells us. Zero faith is involved there.
gtfo my /sci/

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>>1544244
Troll...

>> No.1544324

>>1544301
>zero faith
Guess you're not familiar with Hume's induction problem.

>> No.1544328

Press it.
Everyone lives happier, more meaningful lives as I result. I owe it to everyone, and would feel deep guilt and regret if I didn't.

>> No.1544334

>>1544291
>getting trolled by obvious troll

>> No.1544345

Are Arabs genetically inferior when it comes to intelligence? I don't think so personally, they had some pretty good academic stuff going on before Genghis Khan fucked them up.

>> No.1544359

>>1544235
>>1544227
>>1544242
>>1544243
>>1544244
>>1544245

pussies

imagine what the religious would do with a similar buttons

bunch of fucking pacifists that cant be arsed to defend yourselfs

cant just sit there with your fingers in your ears, there's a fight coming

>> No.1544368

>>1544359
prisoner's dilemma

>> No.1544375

>>1544368
>>1544368
>>1544368

it's really not, the christians/jews/muslims have very clear intentions to rule the planet because they see a second coming of god once this happens. most reasonable atheists would accept their dillusions aslong as they kept it under their shirt. they dont.

so we just have this process of appeasment all over again, war is incoming, get yourself to /fit/ and /k/, you're gonna need it

>> No.1544386

yeah, fuckin press it and get on with science

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>>1544218

>> No.1544577

Kills religion?

Presuming it replaces religion with SCIENCE or at least the ability to think for oneself, then yes.

Otherwise, I STILL would, because, as a man of science, I'd like to see how it works.

Much like that one XKCD comic about the button. I'm sure many of you know which one I'm talking about.

>> No.1544590

>>1544577
Don't remember it, but this reminds me of the old short sci-fi story:
"A scientist had built a machine that might destroy the universe, but he didn't know if it worked. So he started the machine and never found out."

>> No.1544592

>>1544218
I press the one that kills you.

>> No.1544594

Depends
If it kills believers, no
If it makes them Atheist, yes.

>> No.1544599

push

push push pushpushpush puuuuuush push
just to make sure push. pu hold it hold it push
brushie brushie push pushposh pushpush yank push smack pushpushpush

>> No.1544604

>button kills all religion in the universe

who's gonna take care of the bodies? cause I'm not gonna do it ....

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>>1544577
I'm guessing this one?

>> No.1544612

>>1544328
>more meaningful lives
Atheism by definition is a completely meaningless existence.

>> No.1544614

>>1544612
>implying you can't define your own meaning of existence

>> No.1544617

>>1544614
>implying he can, lol

>> No.1544620

>>1544612
well i'm looking forward to a good breakfast, as they say

>> No.1544619

>>1544614
>Implying religion.

But seriously.. No. A meaningless existence is meaningless no matter what you delude yourself to believe.

>> No.1544625

Fuck you all. I'd press it.

The world could potentially be a much better place without religion. Of course I realise it could also be a much worse place and perhaps religion has helped in some ways. But I believe the risk would be worth the reward.

>> No.1544626

>>1544619
sure he can. Where is the difference to a religfag except that the religfag cut the corner around the deep thinking part and just went with the oh look someone wrote this book. Well I just believe in it. alternative. I don;t see any difference. Besides what is the meaning of life in a e.g. christian sense?

>> No.1544634

Too bad Atheism is as much of a religion as anythings else. To truly get rid of religion is to remove humanities consciousness and self-awareness. The only way to prevent forming a hypothesis on the issue is to remove any way of considering the issue in the first place.

>> No.1544642

>>1544619
my meaning of life to extract as much fun as possible from my meaningless life.

captcha: deride people

>> No.1544647

>>1544634
>Too bad Atheism is as much of a religion as anythings else
no.

i'm atheist all my life but i did not feel the need to identify as one, until some christians dragged me into discussion about religion.

>> No.1544650

>>1544619
Being a Christian is just as meaningless, your only purpose being to pray to some being for all eternity?

Just as useless, since this god can just create more followers, yada yada.

>> No.1544653

>>1544634
You clearly don't know what a "religion" is, then.

A hypothesis/theory is not a religion, so long as it has evidence to support it, which religions do not.

>> No.1544660

>>1544634
> is to remove any way of considering the issue in the first place.
it's called atheism.

>> No.1544664

i'd press it a thousand times

>> No.1544665

Kill any religion? Atheism. Next question.

>> No.1544667

>>1544626
A good argument against the "atheism tells you you're meaningless" argument, but poorly worded. Try this.
"Religion attempted to give people meaning by way of a fictional authority figure giving us a job to do. Back when we were surviving well with our increased intelligence we found ourselves with less to do, and more time to think. We also found the societies we had made to survive so well on the brink of collapsing as soon as everyone decided 'I am fed enough, bye'. So the stories we were making up also formed the backbone of the authority figured to be trained into the minds of the young so that they would follow a set path to continue the purpose of society. At the time it was a lot easier than trying to get everyone to continue society so that society can continue so that we can keep surviving. That is right, because we were surviving, ideas like "continued survival" and "improved survival" and "improving of present conditions" and "being able to do awesome things because it is cool" was just not good enough. They had to be scared of invisible men with hammers to act civilized. Now, if the benefits of acting civilized are not obvious, and the exploration to find your own purpose is not good enough, then I feel sorry for you. I am going to work to better things for all, and find ways to be excellent."

I am a Creationist, and I am very glad to give all the little atheists here that argument to use on every religious nut they meet.

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>>1544653
It's quite funny because this is so fucking true. Youtube is full of this shit.

Irony 101. Atheists have FAITH that God doesn't exist. They have the burden of proof to prove that God doesn't exist.

(a)theists vs theists, duh. It isn't brain science.

TL:DR don't try and say the burden of proof is on theists, because 1 their faith is not scientifically based, and 2 it's a stupid argument and I will TL:DR it.

>> No.1544681

>>1544626
Have a hard time coming up with a response to this because it is so incredibly inaccurate I can't find anyway of convincing you otherwise.

Theists have helped create every aspect of every subject. The majority of Philosophy, science, literature, math, and any other subject has been largely contributed to by theists.

I personally have watched everything I can and considered every option and every idea and spent countless hours forming my basis for my understanding. I have lost much sleep examining all the possibilities and am no way feel like I have ever cut a corner by believing in a creator.

My understanding has not come through what is popular or what someone has said, but is entirely subject to my own reasoning and critical analysis of every experience and thought in my life. Everything has its place in the truth of this world and beyond. My mind attempts to fit all things together and discard nothing. My thought process understands the thought processes of those who disagree. I have in no way discarded anything.

It is you who have cut corners and abandoned critical thought. Someone who spews such words but has not even considered or taken the time to fully understand what it is that religion or Christianity has to say has no place in discussion about critical thinking.

>> No.1544685

>>1544677
atheist =/= antitheist.

atheist is a person who doesn't see any reason to suppose(thus deny) the existence of an omnipotent being.

>> No.1544692

>>1544665

But Atheism isn't a religion... shit I've been trolled.

>> No.1544695

>>1544685
An agnostic does not know.
A theists knows.
An Atheists knows not.

Not knowing and knowing not are worlds apart. An Atheists believes he knows not, but does not have proof, and is in the same boat as a theist. Only a stance of not knowing requires no proof.

>> No.1544705

>>1544677
>Atheists have FAITH that God doesn't exist.
no. i accept the possibility of god's existence but regard it as extremely low. same goes for alien abductions, telepathy, homeopathy, etc, etc.
>TL:DR don't try and say the burden of proof is on theists, because 1 their faith is not scientifically based
so you can get away with making up bullshit, as long as you make sure it's unscientific? hahaha oh wow.

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>>1544695
stop redefining the terminology to fit your argument.

>> No.1544732

ITT: TROLLING AT MAXIMUM POWER!

allcaps mahboi

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>>1544677
>Atheists have FAITH that God doesn't exist

protip: we differ by one God

>> No.1544801

>this button kills all religion in the universe

press it.

>> No.1544834

Meh, people are always going to kill each other off for stupid reasons....religion has just always been the traditional vehicle. But think of how many died for nationalism, and it all comes into perspective.

>> No.1545050

press it with a hammer, just to make sure

>> No.1545074

I don't think I would press it.

Because, yes getting rid of all religions might solve a LOT of the worlds problems, I'd like to think that we can do it in normal ways. Like education.

Or at least, get rid of the harmful elements of religion that don't help anyone.

>> No.1545328

>atheist
>apathy
seems legit

>> No.1545611

It depends how it works. I am not religious. I do not believe in God. However, religion has had such a critical effect on how humanity has progressed that suddenly removing it from the past or whatever would radically change EVERYTHING. What would humanity be like with no religion?

>> No.1545615

>kill religion
You can only kill living things bro.

>> No.1545619

I assume by religious you mean people who look at the world for what it isn't. Therefore, yes, I'd press it. That way all the atheists and scientists will perish, and me along with all the sane people who see the universe for what it is can live happily, freely, without money or evil and show our appriciation to our creator.

>> No.1545623

>>1545615
personification, how does it work?!

>> No.1545632

>After a long hiatus from /sci/, decided to return to see if anything's changed
>First thread I see is religion thread
>"3. No "religion vs. science" threads."

Have fun being the stupidest board on 4chan.

>> No.1545641

>>1545623
Which is ironically what religion came from! :D

>> No.1545654

I would press it.

I believe in the possibility of a creator and have nothing against (most) religion.

So why would I press it? Because I don't give a fuck.

>> No.1545684

Killing religion won't fix humanity's problems, they'll just go on to other ridiculous bullshit like astrology, UFOs, crystals, homeopathy, anti-global warming conspiracies, etc.