/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15435840]

Hey, /sci/entists... What is the name given to the fundamental unit or building block of thought?

[Anonymous No.15435842]

>>15435840
a meme?

[Anonymous No.15435857]

>>15435842
If thought has a form, than it is made of atoms.

[Strange Love No.15437161]

>>15435840

>What is the name given to the fundamental unit or building block of thought?

:}~<

[Monadas No.15437788]

>>15435840
I think of this as a monad although others connect that word with other meanings.

[Anonymous No.15437793]

>>15437788
What meaning do you give to a monad?

[Monadas No.15437799]

>>15437793
>fundamental unit or building block of thought
I think of the world as being possible to break down into "atoms of information". Whatever these be: I would call them monads.

[Anonymous No.15437811]

>>15435840
a word

[Monadas No.15437812]

>>15437793
The other part of my name btw stems from "Posadas" which is a weirdo who believed in UFOs and other stuff. I have chosen this part of my name as a warning (to myself) not to drift into schizoid ramblings.

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[Anonymous No.15437863]

>>15437799
>>15437812
This is not very scientific.

[Anonymous No.15437872]

>>15435840
If you think of "thought" as a ghostly cloud in your head, go on, choose one of many philosophys and ascribe it sunstance.
If you think of "thought" as neural processes you dont call it anything for there is no such entity as thought.

[Anonymous No.15438057]

>>15437872
>if you think
This doesn't matter. What matter is what we know.

[Anonymous No.15438072]

>>15435840
reflex ?

[Anonymous No.15438075]

>>15435840
I guess a synapse but it's not necessarily one electrocution that causes a thought, it's more like the chain reaction consistently causes you to be present with altering thoughts and focus, persistently. So a synapse, I guess.

[Monadas No.15438185]

>>15437863
You are wrong. In theory my hypothesis is falsifiable. You just need to find these "atoms of information" and prove that they completely span the state-space of the universe.

In practice you are right, however. We have not yet found such atoms and speculating about this future in absence of data progresses physics just as much as Hegel promoted progress in physics (or history, for that matter).

Violating my hypothesis would be very bad though. It would mean you can't even describe the universe with an arbitrary set (elements of this set being monads).

[Cult of Passion No.15438242]

>>15435840
>fundamental unit or building block of thought
Electromagnetic fields and charges, at the subatomic level of course...sub-Planck if youre hypersavant and cam deduce the infinite void-space of hypothetical reality.

https://youtu.be/mPcEjZ3__E0

Thoughts are also pre-brain, see pic related. Its where my ability to measure hyper-dimensional matrices comes from, pre-brain central nervous system perception of fields and gravity.

>What does a 1-Dimensional hypersphere even look like?!

Linear.

[Monadas No.15438248]

>>15438185
Of course it is unscientific insofar as this need not be the "fundamental building block of thought" at the same time.

[Anonymous No.15438252]

>>15435840
>holy soience
the atheist religion

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438293]

>>15438252
>modern science
>science
>ye...no

Thought is inertia of brain; it's not coming from mind-alone, there's body included. It is a mind-body-brain-heart phenomenon.

You pseuds are funny you think there's literal electronics happening in the brain.

[Cult of Passion No.15438314]

>>15438293
>literal electronics
Electrons? Like...electricity? If one had eyes that only saw electricity the human body would be lit up at the central nervous system with a ball of charge in the brain.

https://youtu.be/XboYI_wxDr8

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438321]

You also confused thinking which is just brain consciousness, with thought, inertia of brain. Come on now stop being retarded on mah sci.

All of you
>>>/x/

[Cult of Passion No.15438343]

>>15438321
>inertia of brain
What is your field of expertise?

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438347]

>>15438343
Spotting retards, now

>>>/x/

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438349]

I CANT HELP IT

[Cult of Passion No.15438358]

>>15438347
You're not a Doctor. Your understanding of Cognition is pathetic and amature like some college student flexing his B- ability to the world like he did to his family thats amazed he read a book. You impress nobody.

Get off my board you fucking tourist.

https://youtu.be/RhFRzgQNg0k

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438371]

>>15438358
You think your force thinking and thoughts occur naturally using brain alone. You're the retard.

How does one 'use' the brain?

Honestly pseud, you deserve shit thrown at you, little orbs of shit sort of flicken at your face until you feel embattled by other perhaps smarter people who didn't sign up unintentionally to that ritual.

Keep going and you may find yourself in that position

[Cult of Passion No.15438383]

>>15438371
>You think
No, I know.
>force thinking and thoughts occur naturally using brain alone
Youre retarded, read the thread you fucking TOURIST.
>You're the retard.
>>15438242
>Thoughts are also pre-brain, see pic related
YOU ARE A STUDENT.
YOUR TEACHER IS MY PUPIL.
>How does one 'use' the brain?
Willpower, I can teach you the way but you will reject it for it is the way of pain.
>smarter people

THOSE DO NOT EXIST. I AM PEERLESS.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438384]

>>15438358
You had enough poo face?

NEHEHEHEHEHEHUHUHUHUH

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438388]

>>15438383
Dude, will power is just pretension, a mind-body phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.15438393]

>>15437811
can someone please acknowledge that I correctly answered the OP with this reply?

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438396]

>>15438393
No it's not a word, that's a tool. Thought is pretension to brain inertia, or thinking as just conscious brain.

[Anonymous No.15438401]

>>15438057
Oh it matters. It certainly matters what kind of thing or phenomena you are dealing with. Ontology is steping stone for everything

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438402]

>>15438388
I was false. What poo face explained was a false will power, will is not how we use brain but pretension is.

[Cult of Passion No.15438410]

>>15438384
>Ignore being BTFO.
>Assume superiority.
>Never accept your loss.
In real life you would get beat up when you act a fool like this...so keep your persona online, buck-o.
>>15438388
>will power is just
Youre not a Doctor, youre speaking out of your ass to not feel like a lost and confused retard in a universe of chaos.

POST SCIENCE, TOURIST.

[Anonymous No.15438411]

>>15438396
>it's not a word
hello retard

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438412]

>>15438410
Will is passive, you influence will power by saying stuff like 'i'm going to quit smoking', you then get up by tensing the body to the mind(pretension) and quit smoking (have a thought and then think).

Shut up bitch lick my Barkie bootel

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438419]

>>15438411
Words come from the tongue and voice box, where is that directly the source of thought? You word retarded or something.

[Cult of Passion No.15438431]

>>15438412
>Will is passive
Youre not a Doctor. You speak from a place of authority but make petty mistakes with no concern for Scientific Truth for you ignore it when its presented, your [[[theory]]] has holes punched in it and you ignore the holes; Ship Sank.

YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR. BEGONE, TOURIST.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438434]

>>15438431
Leave will power alone.

[Cult of Passion No.15438436]

>>15438419
>Words come from the tongue and voice box
Good lord you are not a Psychologist or Doctor. LEAVE, MIDWIT.

t.Phenomenologist via Physiology

[Anonymous No.15438437]

>>15438419
op asked for the fundamental unit of thought. the answer is a word. words aren't just expressions. lots of the time they just privately understood.

[Cult of Passion No.15438440]

>>15438434
>Leave
no u

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438441]

>>15438436
Maddened psued

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438444]

>>15438437
You hella retarded bro seek medical care

[Anonymous No.15438450]

>>15438444
no, you are a retarded schizo in denial. you literally think it is not a word.

[Cult of Passion No.15438451]

>>15438437
>the answer is a word
Feelings are pre-cognition and operate backwards from normal understanding; meaning your feelings told your brain what to rationalize to invoke your actions. The reason you speak (with words) why you did what you did came after your subconscious already decided what it was going to so.

Hence one's rationale is a lie.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438452]

U All MAD

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438456]

I win.

Now. Time for me to go.

Think about what I've told you.

Bye faggots

[Anonymous No.15438460]

is there any hope for trying to reason with retarded schizos? can their intelligence be saved through discourse?

[Cult of Passion No.15438465]

>>15438460
Only beatings teach the willfully ignorant fools that revel in their own discordant nonsense.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438471]

>>15438460
There was no reasoning in this thread. You simply said 'a word', 'no, it's literally a word'. The world is psychotic my friend, evil unintelligent people everywhere, you, one of them. Nothing gets done properly, schizophrenic is a dodgy term used by the rich to suppress thinking away from the economically unfair system that favors the rich. You think like a donkey, you don't know basic philosophy, you don't think for yourself. You don't know what thoughts and thinking is which is shown in this thread. People go on about intelligence quotations as if they're empirical measurements and that's how intelligence is judged, even though the highest IQs still destroy the future for all of us and support unfair systems and don't really have any intelligence. There is no point in telling you this, you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.15438474]

Words you say. What about thinking in trough images?
So it is either thinking trough a symbol that represents experience or a image of that experience.

[Anonymous No.15438479]

>>15438471
sorry, but it is you who is retarded. i only want to HELP you. im here to HELP! im just an ordinary person. the evil people ARE NOT REAL. please take care of yourself AnoN.

[Anonymous No.15438481]

>this thread

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438483]

You CAN think using words, symbols, urges, but you mostly think in images. However this isn't the building block of thought, that's pretension.

[Anonymous No.15438484]

>>15438465
Btw hey CoP,
Hows you? Hows the trip?

[Cult of Passion No.15438485]

>>15438471
>There was no reasoning in this thread.
Youre not a Doctor though...you didnt see that there was...

[Anonymous No.15438486]

>>15438483
Are you asking what is building block of that "cloud" you focus on when you dont focus on external stimuly?

[Anonymous No.15438487]

>>15437811
Words can be split into morphemes. Also this doesn't account for non-verbal thought.

[Anonymous No.15438489]

>>15438483
>but you mostly think in images.
I never thought in images.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438494]

>>15438489
You do.

You don't see these images, they're like little pulsations that stimulate memory or further thinking.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438497]

It's probably prehension and not pretension that is the building block of thought

[Cult of Passion No.15438503]

>>15438484
I got sick as hell in Thailand, spent a week in bed. Place is dirty, bailed half way through, just spent the time smoking weed resting.

Visited Abu Dhabi and Vienna, resting for a couple days before exploring Copenhagen. The White Mosque in Abu Dhabi is very pentagonal centered (Phi based), and that is very unsual, thats a rare geometric shape in patterned designes. Its usually singled out as a single shape, as it doesnt pattern out evenly (diverges).

Found a misidentified artifact in Vienna, Rape of Paris, but it centered around two penis-havers playing grab ass, so I can only assume it was labeled as Rape of Paris but depicts a seperate, historical, event. I havnt really worked it out yet but mostly have; related to Genetics and mating combinations of human subspecies.

[Anonymous No.15438508]

>>15438487
can you really think of an image more fundamental than the words you'd use to describe it? words are the fundamental unit for thinking. they build upon each other.

[Cult of Passion No.15438511]

>>15438497
>It's probably
Scientific. Very "mathy" with that probability vector. Really covers the ass when its ever revealed to be incorrect.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438512]

I'm more retarded after reading other people in this thread.

This thread ended my power trip and gave me cancer.jpg

A summary
The building block of thought is prehension. You cease an opportunity in mind-body-brain-heart process.

You cannot think in words, symbols or urges, these just complement thought. You only think in images.

End of thread.

[Anonymous No.15438514]

>>15438497
As i said.. experience..
But yeahh wat ever.

>>15438503
Sorry to hear that. Hope you get full strenght back soon.
Wonderfull citys i heard. Altho i dont like big citys.
Indeed Mosques generaly are beautifull because if such paterns. Sometimes i think mathematics influenced islam very much in past.

[Cult of Passion No.15438526]

>>15438512
>You only think in images.
But, Anon, visual processing is done in the brain and I posted that thoughts are pre-brain.
>Thoughts are also pre-brain, see pic related.

YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR.

[Cult of Passion No.15438533]

>>15438514
>Indeed Mosques generaly are beautifull because if such paterns
Even looked over some maths in the Palace, too.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438537]

>>15438526
>Pre-brain
>Has not reached the brain stage yet
>Agreed that it's a mind-body-brain(3rd)-heart process
>Agreeing with me
>Not knowing

[Cult of Passion No.15438551]

>>15438537
You are disingenuous.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438561]

>>15438551
Yeah you can suck my barkie

[Cult of Passion No.15438563]

>>15438537
>Agreed that it's a mind-body-brain(3rd)-heart process
Oh, but you didnt include bacterial fecal transplants altering personalities, you dont even cellular hiveminds, you cant even collective intelligence, YOU DONT EVEN KNOW BOUT DIS SHIT.

Youre not a Doctor...

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438579]

How you think

1. Preparing to think(for purposes of instructions we start here)
2. Mind produces opportunity for prehension(a seizing of an event giving you power in the brain)
3. Prehension, you power the brain in one tense step
4. Thought is produced.

Try step 2-4 and skip phase 1.

The only reason you can power a brain is not its own engine, but the capacity for body to create tension in that area through prehension of collected will.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438585]

ITT: totally braindead people versus me, thinker

[Cult of Passion No.15438610]

>>15438585
>versus me, thinker
Is...the thinking in the room right now?

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15438612]

>>15438610
:L <3

U mad

[Cult of Passion No.15438624]

>>15438612
>U mad
No, I'm thinking.

[Cult of Passion No.15438634]

I'M. THINK.

BIG THINK!

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15439486]

Retards

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15439505]

This thread is proof sci is mostly retarded post neckbeard nerds.

[Cult of Passion No.15439511]

>>15439486
>t.Big Feel

[Anonymous No.15439512]

>>15437811
>Thinks in terms of words
Found the NPC

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15439517]

>>15439512
Found you.

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15439523]

>>15439511
Donkey

[Cult of Passion No.15439530]

>>15439523
A simple beast...but it will do just fine.

B^)

[Anonymous No.15439554]

>>15435840
the thot(think+dot)