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1542490 No.1542490 [Reply] [Original]

So here's the situation: you have a 1Kg mass at sea level on earth, and a machine that converts all of it into energy by the equation E=mc^2. That energy drives a laser aimed at a photocell 1 Km above sea level. The energy from the photocell is put into a machine that converts the energy into a 1Kg mass, and the mass is dropped back to sea level- and from that fall, you would be able to get energy from the system without putting any in. Why doesn't this work? And you are assuming the wires, the E=mc^2 machine (no, it doesen't exist), and laser are 100% efficient. A perpetual motion machine made with completely efficient parts is dumb, but this seems like it would generate energy, so how would the energy be lost?

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1542509

>>1542490

>> No.1542513

Gravity redshifts the laser, reducing its energy.

>> No.1542521

>>1542513
Does that mean that the wavelength of light emitted from any source (say, a star) provides us with valuable information regarding the mass of said source?

>> No.1542533

wire have resistance faggot

>> No.1542534

I guess so if you also know the relative speed of the star

>> No.1542539

>>1542521
Yes, if they're massive enough to detect the redshift.

>> No.1542545

>>1542534
Yes, I think in most stars the velocity shift would be dominant. Super-massive or dense stars, I know the gravitational shift is significant.

>> No.1542565

If you can convert from energy to matter and vice versa with 100% efficiency, why bother with stupid schemes like this?

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That is called using GRAVITY TO DO WORK. KIND OF LIKE A DAM.

>> No.1542666

>>1542565
It was a good question. He was wondering where the extra energy was coming from.

>> No.1542670

>>1542565
Because that still doesn't get you energy for free, whereas OP's scheme does (or appears to).