Carbonmaxxxing for increased productivity

[Anonymous No.15412627]

Germany is shutting down all it's alternative power in order to go to 100% coal power and produce maximum CO2. All nations will soon follow suit & the Earth will become greener and more productive. The future is going to be bright and wonderful with the highest per acre crop yields humanity has ever seen

[Anonymous No.15412642]

>>15412627
I'm glad they're doing it. With the low levels of CO2 in the pre-industrial era, we were in danger of a catastrophic planetary event taking us below the necessary level of CO2 for large-scale plant life.

[Sage No.15412646]

Fake news. Nobody gave a shot the first time you posted this crap.

[Anonymous No.15412648]

>>15412627
>Germany is shutting down all it's alternative power
This is false

[Anonymous No.15412876]

>>15412627
Absolutely epic, the entire planet should be kept at the same level of CO2 as greenhouses are maintained at, about 1600-1700ppm seem to be the sweet spot.
The last trees over 120m tall were cut down about 100 years ago, if you want to see them replaced and surpassed in your lifetime this is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.15413383]

>>15412648
it isn't, see OP picrel for more info.
germany is defying the globohomo faggotry and going back to good old reliable coal 100%

[Anonymous No.15413385]

Call me when they expel the 5th column and subhumans

[Anonymous No.15413656]

>>15413385
One thing at a time, Hitler took 5 years to clean up Germany to the point that they could host the olympics and he was operating at top speed

[Anonymous No.15413686]

>>15412627
I used to be anti-Greenshit, but sorry the fact of the matter is it is working. The only sad part is we are basically importing cheap labour goods building our own stolen tech. If we had proper protectionism like they promise we would already have full energy independence.

[Anonymous No.15413697]

>>15413686
Germany has energy independence, they have plenty of coal and they're using it freely.

[Anonymous No.15413709]

>>15412627
Nuclear is dangerous and harmful to the environment which is why we should rely on ex kgb members to maintain our electrical grid and infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.15413813]

>>15413697
The coal is literally worth less than the industry and infrastructure we would have to dismantle to dig it up.

Germany has enough shale gas reserves to supply all of Europe too, it's just quite literally not worth the cost.

Renewables are worth it because especially offshore farms don't displace anything.

[Anonymous No.15413825]

>>15413709
Thank god not anymore. Excommunicating Russia in every way possible is the best thing for us and everyone else in europe

[Anonymous No.15414093]

>>15413383
>please see my attached pictures from big name media sites Twitter page
Do you know where you are? Only /pol/ tourists will believe this in its current form, so you might as well just be posting on /pol/ anyways faggot.

[Anonymous No.15414123]

>>15412627
It won't, you would have to fertilize with all the ash with all its heavy metals etc. otherwise CO2 alone is like feeding with sugar, there are no nutrients to use it all up.

[Anonymous No.15414128]

>>15413825
Worthless if we don't cut ties with China and other probably other BRICS too.

[Anonymous No.15414531]

>>15414128
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15414541]

>>15414531
Are you retarded? China is giving weapons to Russia. It's not a political statment to say it's worthless to cut out Russia, and not other BRICS.

That's what's happening anyway.

[Anonymous No.15414629]

>>15412627
>Carbonmaxxxing for increased productivity
This is the way, but Germany = fags and wimps, and aren't Herr Chads anymore.

[Anonymous No.15414705]

>>15413825
Europe will be part of Russia soon enough.

[Anonymous No.15414777]

>>15414629
They literally genocided them....
eisenhower's rhine meadows camps, Patton was so disgusted with them , he called it semitic, then he mysteriously died

[Anonymous No.15414841]

>>15414541
That is by definition a political statement, but it's not wrong. The other BRICS however, are not threatening to take over Finland and Poland because they share some ethnic makeup with them, as they absorb a neighboring country, claiming the same ethno-state motivation.

...and it has nothing to do with the Ukraine's government being overthrown by a NATO friendly one. If they felt that government was illegitimate they could have overthrown it in 2014, when they had all of 40K troops to defend themselves with, which had already been defeated in Crimea. Never mind the 2004 Orange Revolution that happened in Ukraine well before NATO was even on the table.

But I digress to /pol/ as well. Not that you can have this conversation there either, nothing but wannabe vatniks and Putin simps these days.

[Anonymous No.15415333]

>>15414841
>But I digress to /pol/ as well
Because you are fucking /pol/ posting and you have probably unironically been there.

I am posting the consensus of every important technical and political leader in the West w.r.t. good research conduct as it relates to our profession, minus two boomers in Germany who are slow to catch on as usual but fortunately Scholz is fixing that. China is selling chips to Russia. Most yellow countries are either buying oil and not arresting Putin as the ICC ordered or in general supporting the war (mostly because they like see dead Europeans). Therefore they support the war. That's their right, and then it is also our right to cut them off from our technology which is precisely what we are doing. This is about the integrity and ethics of the STEM profession and civilization in general. That is the only scope that falls within /sci/ as the ethics of data sharing is a common topic in all our professions.

We have never shared our work with warmongering racist authoritarians. If you don't like that you can go bitch about it on /pol/, not on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.15415398]

>>15415333
Not him but if you wanted present your hot takes as facts, you belong in /pol/ buddy.

[Anonymous No.15415542]

>>15415398
It's not a "take". It's official policy of my funding mandate you retard.

[Anonymous No.15415771]

>>15415333
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15416059]

>>15415771
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15417288]

>>15412876
Looking forward to it, life will be better than ever before with increased atmospheric CO2

[VIRUSES DON'T EXIST No.15417316]

>>15415333
> we
Russia is a colony of west and remotely controlled proxy mercenary. "peacekeeping operations" can be outsourced as well.

[Anonymous No.15417582]

moar CO2 plz

[Anonymous No.15418874]

>>15413813
>The coal is literally worth less than the industry and infrastructure we would have to dismantle to dig it up.
It isn't, Germany is wiping out their wind mills in order to get to the coal thats beneath them

[Anonymous No.15419392]

>>15418874
Windmills are literally built on the most undesirable real estate in the entirety of the country and it's always been the strategy to offshore them as we replace older models. I am talking about where the proper reserves of shale and coal are. Germany _could_ produce enough shale gas for the whole of Europe, it would just come at the cost of food independence plus invaluable industry.

[Anonymous No.15419415]

>>15419392
Germany is doing just fine using it's coal, they don't need your advice
>nooooooo, but i know everything, they need to do what say because of my repulsive know-it-allism and delusions of intellectual superiority, i'm so smart!! reeeeeeeeeee!!!

[Anonymous No.15419549]

>>15419415
What coal? Coal hasn't been significant since 2011.

[Anonymous No.15419705]

More CO2 = better life for everyone
in the short term
however
increased rates of photosynthesis by oceanic plants means less direct solar heating of the oceans as the plants absorb an ever greater share of the sunlight. this leads to cooling oceans and eventually to ice ages

[Anonymous No.15419720]

>>15419705
so thats the mechanism that causes ice ages to start
i tried looking it up on wikipedia but they didn't know

[Anonymous No.15420469]

>>15419705
Is there any way to stave off this effect?

[Anonymous No.15420878]

>>15420469
put something into the ocean to prevent plants from growing

[Anonymous No.15421006]

>>15419549
>installed capacity instead of actual generation
"raffs*
Also you are aware that lignite is just shitty coal, right?

[Anonymous No.15421044]

>>15412627
>Carbonmaxxxing for increased productivity
I have to say, this makes a lot of sense.

The planet is still too cool compared to the past, and another ice age would be disastrous to humanity.

[Anonymous No.15421467]

>>15421044

[Anonymous No.15422491]

>>15415333
>you are *explicative* /pol/
>I am posting the consensus of every important technical and political leader
you're the only one posting political stuff, the rest of us are here to discuss science

[Anonymous No.15423488]

>>15419392
>it would just come at the cost of food independence
it wouldn't because all of the awesome CO2 that burning coal & gas produce would make the remaining farmland twice as productive

[Anonymous No.15423496]

>>15421044
>another ice age would be disastrous to humanity.
THIS is what concerns real scientists and people the most. Talk about a near extinction event that would cause!

Warmerplanet is better than frozen.

[Anonymous No.15423729]

>>15423496
It wouldn't tho, the sahara was a verdant paradise during the last ice age, the only lost territory would be thinly populated places like canada, siberia & scandinavia. the antarctic is already uninhabited. reduced sea levels would make places like florida twice a large

[Anonymous No.15424186]

>>15422491
This is like your 3rd post (I think) where you are pure politics posting without any mention of data of scientific or engineering relevance and you are also confusing multiple posters. If you don't want to explain your reasons then you will rightly continue to be ignored and I don't see what you think you are accomplishing by reposting the same ad nauseum.

But I think real problem here is that you don't even realise we probably have the same "politics" (I think all of us here are pro nuclear at least) and the statements in this post chain are about the implementation of Germany's (and Europe's) energy sustainability goals, not the politics surrounding what led to those goals. The original Anon replying was simply making the point that we don't rely on gas anymore (which is true and not a political statement), so killing nuclear didn't turn out to be as big of a deal as everyone said it was going to be. The follow up point is that sustainable development requires global cooperation and there is no point to shifting energy sources in Europe unless there is a follow through with the orignal goals which necessitate a scalable, protected technology and consumer goods chain (you can call it what it is: "green" protectionism, I don't care) which includes cutting out entities that don't cooperate.

This is in line with the UN sustainability goals and the BMBF energy independence strategy. It is not controversial, it is simply referencing a fait accompli and we, as researchers, technology suppliers and manufacturers, are not part of that decision chain anymore except to implement the plan in a way that our industry continues to thrive (which it is, contrary to "political" views, see industrial confidence indices and GDP growth 2022).

>>15423488
Plants might be growing faster, but they're not necessarily producing enough nutrients. As I said the goal is shift wind turbines to oceans where we have unused space both for electricity and offshore hydrogen production.

[Anonymous No.15424290]

>>15412627
>The future is going to be bright and wonderful with the highest per acre crop yields humanity has ever seen
This will pair perfectly with the genetic modification of humans to make women giant and super fecund, and men small and super athletic

[Anonymous No.15425415]

>>15424290
I respect the grind shilling your fetish in every thread.

[Anonymous No.15426162]

>>15423729
According to Plato, during the last ice age, Florida was the kingdom of Gadeirus, part of Atlantis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AUEjzVQwKo

[Anonymous No.15426671]

>>15426162
plato's history is full of things that used to be considered myth and were later proven true

[Anonymous No.15426678]

>>15425415
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.15427812]

>>15424186
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.15428450]

>>15421044
axl rose

[Anonymous No.15428714]

>>15419549
>Coal hasn't been significant since 2011.
it is now, they're digging it up as fast as they can

[Anonymous No.15429224]

>>15425415
Thanks anon!
For some reason my post was deleted I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.15429228]

>>15424290
>women giant
Based
>men small
Manlet cope

[Anonymous No.15429230]

>>15429228
Small men are superior to large men

[Anonymous No.15430016]

>>15428714
they dismantled a bunch of wind farms to get at the coal underneath them

[Anonymous No.15430033]

90% of the human population should be replaced with trees.

[Anonymous No.15430620]

>>15430033
Lead by example, replace yourself with a tree. Mother Earth will be much better

[Anonymous No.15430687]

>>15413383
>germany is defying the globohomo faggotry
Yeah that’s what’s happening lmao

[Barkun: Demi-GodofSCI !hax6YPhEF6 No.15430698]

>>15430687
It's habbening

[Anonymous No.15431092]

>>15430687
It is tbf. No more globohomo trade reliance is good.

[Anonymous No.15431118]

>>15431092
wake me up when im trading in euros and not dollars

[Anonymous No.15431522]

>>15431118
>euros
marks

[Anonymous No.15432518]

>>15431118
Why should Germans get rid of the dollar, do you have any idea how big the German ownership of publically traded American companies are?

[Anonymous No.15432703]

>>15432518
they need to bring back marks because gauss was on one of the bills

[Anonymous No.15432743]

/sci/ really needs to read this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/net-zero-grid-batteries-alone-would-bankrupt-america

[Anonymous No.15432763]

>>15432743
i read something a few weeks ago about the military going all electric, their daily needs in electricity to power their trucking would be several multiples of the country's total capacity.

[Anonymous No.15432848]

>>15432703
True and based. But dollar (Taler) is even more based and trad.

[Anonymous No.15433954]

>>15432848
joachimsthal is now known as jachymov, its no longer germanic

[Anonymous No.15434692]

>>15419720
>wikipedia

[Anonymous No.15434953]

>>15433954
There is no such thing as a Germanic/Slavic dichotomy. All the Eastern European states (Novgorad/Kievan Rus) have Germanic origins.

It's different classes of the same people of which the (true) elite speak Latin.

[Anonymous No.15436292]

CO2 is based

[Anonymous No.15436298]

>>15413709
>Comunism is dangerous to the environment
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.15436381]

>>15412876
>>15417288
>>15417582
Based. More plant growth means more photosynthesis. More plant material will turn that CO2 into glucose and oxygen. More oxygen in the air will cause creatures to become bigger. Imagine breathing in outside air with more oxygen. You'd have so much more energy. CO2 is life.

[Anonymous No.15436387]

>>15434953
Rus' were a mix of baltics, slavs, and nords living together

[Anonymous No.15436390]

>>15413709
>>15436298
meds and return to >>>/x/ you schizos

[Anonymous No.15437061]

>>15436387
Yeah and Nords are Germanic fren.

[Anonymous No.15437194]

>>15437061
Which is a linguistic group. Rus spoke Old East Slavic which was a Slavic language.

[Anonymous No.15437205]

>>15415542
Nobody cares you stupid moron.

[Anonymous No.15437315]

>>15437194
The elite spoke Norse. Their handlers spoke Latin.

[Anonymous No.15437341]

>>15412627
Unironically increased CO2 levels will cause crop production to SKYROCKET. Not even joking but doing what OP suggests would be able to feed 10+ billion people well and have left overs.

Please note that as we grow more food and the forests become super charged off the C02 the carbon becomes sequestered in living plant tissue and the cycle grows exponentially since older trees are more efficient at the conversion. Eventually we will reach a homeostasis around 10 billion humans and a slightly warmer planet but no big deal really. Plus everyone should be full and comfy.

>>15412876
He gets it, based tree lover.

[Anonymous No.15437932]

>>15437341
>a slightly warmer planet
CO2 is not a "greenhouse gas"
Mars has no greenhouse effect and Mars has over 2000% more CO2 per unit surface area than Earth does

[Anonymous No.15438108]

>>15419549
>Coal hasn't been significant since 2011.
People who can't read basic charts (and who don't know what lignite is) are discussing topics such as this.

Just a random blackpill for passerbys.

[Anonymous No.15438143]

>>15412627
wait, so I'm not a rebel anymore for rolling coal, burning trash, eating 2 pounds of meat every day and having 20 childen? i guess i will have to become a green loving vegan hippie now

[Anonymous No.15438180]

>>15419705
>this leads to cooling oceans and eventually to ice ages
>implying this isn't good
hyperboria kino is on the plate boys

[Anonymous No.15438261]

>>15437932
>Mars has no greenhouse effect and Mars has over 2000% more CO2 per unit surface area than Earth does
mars has a greenhouse effect, mars just gets way less solar radiation than the earth, YOU DUMB FUCK, learn Physics before opening your filthy faggot mouth

[Anonymous No.15438297]

>>15438261
Mars has no measurable greenhouse effect according to publications from the space agencies that have visited the planet. Given that Mars has over 2000% more CO2 per unit surface area as compared to Earth and Earth has a 33ºK greenhouse effect, Mars would be far warmer than it is if CO2 were a greenhouse gas.
Heres a link to the basic calculation,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_equilibrium_temperature
astronomy majors learn this in the first month of their freshmen year, if you're unfamiliar with it, and you clearly are, then you're just a pseud and don't belong on /sci/

[Anonymous No.15438395]

Imagine looking at this and see no issue.

[Anonymous No.15438404]

>>15438261
>mars has a greenhouse effect, mars just gets way less solar radiation than the earth
It gets 40% less solar radiation.
If you stand outside on a cloudy day, you get, what, 2% of the solar radiation as during a sunny day? Just some food for thought. Temperatures are incredibly more complex than solar.

[Anonymous No.15439148]

>>15438143
you gotta cook eggs on a gas stove if you want to be a real rebel these days

[Anonymous No.15439153]

>>15419549
The essence of the problem: people like this poster fail to read simple graphs

[Anonymous No.15439328]

>>15439153
>muh capacity
Is not an argument, batteries are being built at breakneck pace.

[Anonymous No.15439419]

>>15412876
It wouldn't work, as the rest of the nutrients are not being replaced. You could as well try to grow massive animals by feeding them sugar. We would have to use the ash as a fertilizer.
Also the trees are not that old.

[Anonymous No.15439426]

>>15419549
You're looking at nuclear you idiot.

[Anonymous No.15439462]

>>15439426
No I'm not you retard. Coal combined is half the capacity of wind, a quarter the capacity of wind+solar. It's not significant.

[Anonymous No.15440801]

>>15439419
>trees don't grow faster with more CO2 in the atmosphere
everyone get a load of this science denier.
trees growing faster was already proved earlier in this thread here >>15417582 and the lying science denier just willfully ignored it in order to shill it's disproved doomsday fantasy soience dogma.

[Anonymous No.15441212]

>>15440801
Global Warming is a literal doomsday cult

[Anonymous No.15442220]

>>15438108
Yes, we call them 'politicans' and make fun of them off the web.

[Anonymous No.15442233]

Shutting down nuclear is good for the enviroment....
...you know, plants like CO2

[Anonymous No.15442426]

>>15442233
plants don't seem to mind nuclear meltdowns either, the chernobyl exclusion zone is teeming with wildlife