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Proof that animals don't have consciousness:
When I put some chopped up meat in my dog's dish he growls at anyone or anything thats comes near, including the roomba.
When the family is sitting around the table eating he begs like a bitch.
The dog does not have a brain, it does not understand that other living creatures are similar to itself, it only perceives me and my family as things which might give it food.
It can be trained to do things only in the same way that a mechanical gadget can be built to do things, it has no ability to genuinely learn, its just a stomach with eyes, nose, ears and legs.
Animals are only living creatures in that they can walk around, they are not alive in the same way that humans are, they aren't any more conscious than a plant is.

>> No.15400320 [DELETED] 

>>15400307
It begs for a morsel of food from the kill, like a wolf would.
But once you've given in that morsel, don't even think about trying to take it away. That's a violation of the NAP.

>> No.15400327

they try to comfort people who are sad and understand when they are sick which you would know if you actually had any experience with dogs

>> No.15400343
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>>15400307
>performs evolutionary rational behavior, also influenced by human interaction and artificial selection
>"this is proof of no consciousness"
Or maybe it's the proof that you're retarded.

>> No.15400344

>>15400307
Human NPCs are no better than your dog. Conscious beings capable of empathy, morality and intellectualism are extremely rare.

>> No.15400363

>>15400307
If it has no consciousness and all it wanted was to eat stuff then it would try to eat you

>> No.15400378

>>15400363
>If it doesn't eat me it must be conscious
Great news, a brick is conscious now!

>> No.15400383

>>15400307
If it is not consciouss why does it growl?
If it is not consciouss why does he percive?
If it is not consciouss why can he be conditioned?

>> No.15400386

>>15400307
Your dog might just be dumb, none of the ones my family had did that. You know what they say about the owners resembling their pets.

>> No.15400387

>>15400378
Or you know.. you just have dualistic, antropocentric view of conscioussnes

>> No.15400388
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15400388

>opportunism is... le bad
>le bad is... no consciusness

>> No.15400396

>>15400387
Wait, are you unironically saying bricks are conscious? Lmao.

>> No.15400401

>>15400396
No i am saying that you have view od conscioussnes as a property which can be ascribed to beings. And because of it you fall into this "hurr durr so bricks are concious!!"

>> No.15400421

>>15400401
What's the alternative? Panpsychism?

>> No.15400428

>>15400421
No they also imply that consciousness is a property of reallity.
I am not aware of any philosophical theory of consciousness that does not hold it as either property or entity.

>> No.15400434

>>15400378
A brick doesn't want to eat though like you said the dog does

>> No.15400453

>>15400344
What if you are capable of empathy and morality but not intellectualism?

>> No.15401661

>>15400307
Pic could just as well be a scientist
>Scientist when it has fund gibes
>Scientist when others have fund gibes

>> No.15401687

growl at your dog when he comes near you when you're eating

>> No.15402468

>>15400307
Children act the same with things they want.

>> No.15402493

>>15400307
Proof that OP doesn't have consciousness:
He posted this steaming pile of shit on 4chan thinking it was an interesting or relevant point.
OP can be trained to do things only in the same way that a mechanical gadget can be built to do things, it has no ability to genuinely learn, its just a stomach with eyes, nose, ears and legs.
OP is only a living creature in that he can walk around, he not alive in the same way that humans are, he isn't any more conscious than a plant is.

>> No.15402977

>>15400307
>they aren't any more conscious than a plant is.
Correct, god gave man dominion over all plants and animals for good reason. They are here to serve us, not the other way around.
People who think animals need to be treated "humanely" are mentally ill, animals are not human.
>b-b-but they're so much like us
Get your retarded psychological projection habit under control, dumb bitch. If you think that animal have the same thoughts and emotions you do then you are no better than an animal yourself

>> No.15403113 [DELETED] 

>>15400344
you talk shit for a cunt who does not have any of these

>> No.15403339

>>15402468
Children are naïve and ignorant, it takes a lot of care to raise them into proper adults

>> No.15403434

>>15402977
In fact niggers are not humans and must pick cotton for me, in fact even retards like you are not human as well and should work for me instead.
>b-b-but muh humaneetee
I'm the only human around, you beasts are just dumb animals pretending to be human like me, but are nothing except sub-human that barely resemble me.

>> No.15403488

>>15400307

> they aren't any more conscious than a plant is.

They are. We have done experiments to figure out if they could recognize their own body. One such way to do that if they can figure out a puzzle where their own body is an obstacle to solving a puzzle, for example because they are sitting on a rug and they need to stand up and move out of the rug to solve it. They do figure out.

>> No.15403493

>>15400307
This just proves that you suck at having pets.

>> No.15403495

>>15400307
This just proves dogs are insufferable parasites who (via evolution) have molded into creatures optimal for deceiving human beings into loving them.

Solution? Get rid of your parasite.

>> No.15403525

>>15400307
>Proof that animals don't have consciousness
can't prove something that's not true
animals absolutely do have consciousness, at least the vast majority of them (specifically all vertebrates, all arthropods, and all cephalopods)
>The dog does not have a brain
yes, it does
>it does not understand that other living creatures are similar to itself
irrelevant for consciousness
insects don't understand that either, yet they and all other arthropods are also conscious
>it only perceives me and my family as things which might give it food
humans are not so different ultimately, just more intelligent and self-aware
still has nothing to do with consciousness itself, which both dogs and humans have
>It can be trained to do things only in the same way that a mechanical gadget can be built to do things, it has no ability to genuinely learn, its just a stomach with eyes, nose, ears and legs.
most humans can be conditioned in similar ways, and arguably these days that's exactly what they have been
>they are not alive in the same way that humans are
wrong
>they aren't any more conscious than a plant is
plants are not conscious
only vertebrates, arthropods, and cephalopods are conscious

>> No.15403526

>>15403495
historically dogs and humans have had a win-win symbiotic relationship with each other, providing each other with companionship and taking care of each other (humans providing dogs with food and shelter, dogs providing security and tracking of foods, and so on)
but yes, these days most dogs have just been bred into abominable nonsense because they've lost all function

>> No.15403530

>>15402977
>god
there's no such thing as any creator deity
this is /sci/, not whatever board you think your delusional religious nonsense belongs to
>animals are not human
irrelevant to the topic
>think that animal have the same thoughts and emotions
retarded straw man
humans typically have higher levels of intelligence and self-awareness than other animals, so naturally they don't have the same thoughts and emotions
but animals (the vast majority of them, with only a very few exceptions) do have thoughts and emotions, since they are conscious

>> No.15403590

Good.
The next step is realising that most of the human population is the same.

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>>15403526
>because they've lost all function
because soiboys are afraid to go outside

>> No.15404981

>>15403526
Dogs haven't had a function since humans were hunter gatherers. They act as surrogate friends/children for nutters.

>> No.15405031

proof animals have consciousness: lion raised in captivity and released into the wild remembers his bros that played with him growing up and hugs it out with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvCjyWp3rEk

>> No.15405036

>>15400388
yeah this.
OP has less consciousness than the dog.

>> No.15405042

>>15400307
this post is on levels of retard I have yet to see on this board

>> No.15405100
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>passes your mirror test
What now?

>> No.15405675

>>15404981
>sheep dogs, hunting dogs, guard dogs, police dogs, guide dogs, rescue dogs…
?

>> No.15405684

>>15405100
Even ants pass the mirror test. All life is conscious. Or put another way, biology is what a disassociated consciousness looks like when perceived through the dissociative filter.

>> No.15405955

>>15405100
A brick passes the mirror test. When put in front of a mirror it behaves exactly like you would expect a conscious brick to behave.

>> No.15405959

>>15405684
>All life is conscious
Human NPCs are not.

>> No.15406393

dogs are seriously the dumbest most useless animals that humans regularly allow to stink up their homes. dogs have no soul and go directly to hell for being a genetic abomination of natures perfection that was the wolf. dogs are vermin and should be killed and fed to other animals or starving people, thats the only use they will ever have. instead of having children people get these disgusting violent mutts to bark all fucking day at nothing

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>>15405036

>> No.15407809

>>15400307
op is a shitty dog owner if his dog growls when it has food

>> No.15407970

>>15406393
>t. Mudslime

>> No.15408180

>>15406393
why do white women love dogs so much?

>> No.15408667 [DELETED] 

>>15407970
>t. kike

>> No.15408703

>>15400307
You trained it to sit near the table and beg at every meal, retard, my dog doesn't do any of this because it wasn't raised by a retard.

>> No.15408712

>>15402977
>They are here to serve us, not the other way around.
ok worm food

>> No.15408726

>>15404981
>>15405675
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnspit_dog

>> No.15408728

>>15406393
What's wrong Trayvon, having troubles breaking into other people's houses because the dog keeps barking at you when you go onto a stranger's property?

>> No.15408829

>>15400307
Dogs have some degree of empathy, what you describe is them being selfish fucks, just like kids. They can still like you.

>> No.15408837

>>15400383
>If it is not consciouss why does it growl?
If wind is not conscious, why does it make sound?
>If it is not consciouss why does he percive?
Proof that it perceives?
>If it is not consciouss why can he be conditioned?
If plants are not conscious, why can they be controlled?

>> No.15408846

>>15404981
Are you stupid? Even with todays technology dogs are used for work everywhere, unlike horses and most traction animals.

>> No.15408973

>>15400428
>I am not aware
kek

>> No.15410020

>>15408829
they don't, you're just projecting your own human thoughts and emotions onto dumb animals

>> No.15411047

>>15408846
Horses are still a necessary tool for wildland cattle drives, they're still useful pack animals too

>> No.15411054

My father-in-law has a very stupid and misbehaving dog. The dog is barking, begging at the table, making my pants dirty with its wet nose. What can I do to teach the dog to shut up and stay in its corner?

>> No.15411476

Dogs are not conscious simply because there is no such thing as "consciousness" in the first place. I am not "conscious", neither are you. Those "hard problems" are made up out of human ignorance, dogma and desire to feel exceptional (when funnily enough there's no such thing as "desire" either)

>> No.15411483

>>15408846
True

>pitbulls give work to doctors
>German shepards let police illegally search cars
>Dogs shit everywhere, giving more work to the sanitation department

truly dog's create lots of work for humanity.

>> No.15411496

>>15408837
>If wind is not conscious, why does it make sound?
Wind is sound, wind does not produce sound.
>Proof that it perceives?
Dogs have abillity to train which requires perception
>If plants are not conscious, why can they be controlled
Phisycal control and mental conditionig are not same thing.

>> No.15411500

>>15408973
I did not say i am not aware i am just telling you i do not thing of awernes the same way you do.
For example, when we speak of force of gravit you might think of it as a entity or a thing, i think of it as an interaction between objects. This is very big difference. Yet i do not claim it does not existy just that it is not the way people think of it.

>> No.15411519

>>15400307
Proof that OP doesn't have consciousness:
Mistakes cultural differences between species as "lacking consciousness"
Doesn't recognize consciouness expressed by different intelligences
Mental gymnastics to justify delusions of superiority
Probably a nigger

>> No.15411525

>>15411476
Thank you Dennett, but your post is an illusion as well.

>> No.15411533

>>15411525
Dennett does not claim consciousness does not exist. He only say the conceptiom we have of it is fundamentally flawed and wrong.

>> No.15411557

>>15404981
total nonsense, you're retarded and have zero idea what you're talking about
see: >>15405675

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>>15411557
>dogs are usefu- ACK!

>> No.15411986

>>15400344
They are around 10% of the population.

>> No.15411997

>>15411569
why are you like this

>> No.15412297

>>15408728
>>15407970
your braindead mutt will never love you. it is too mentally retarded to love you. your retard mutt will never replace the love a parent could have for his own child, or any other human for that matter. anyone could kidnap your mutt, feed it some mutt treats and it would forget about your miserable, lonely, sorry ass in a flash. all dirty mutts need to be exterminated and burned alive preferably like that chinese video with the pigs they burned alive that had a disease. people care more for worthless mutts than a human lives. just add another straw to the back of the camel that is the sad state of humanity

>> No.15412316

>>15402468
children eventually grow up, at least if they are taken care of. a mutt is retarded from the day it is born till the day its dirty limp heart stops beating. they operate 100% on instinct no different from a bug. dont mistake its actions for intelligence, it was coded to act a certain way and simply goes through the motions while dog freaks wet their pants head over heels for them for doing the most basic tasks imagineable

>> No.15412368

>>15411997
Stop worshipping dogs.

>> No.15412385

>>15400307
It is biological urge. Try doing no fap when you want to jerk off, you won't last long. Same way with dog eating food if the dog is trained it won't sit there looking at you when you eat, st least for a while until its training is holding, same way you can its food and if its a properly trained dog, it will be unhappy but it won't attack you, but do it few times and biology will kick in.

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>>15400307
Why did you train your dog to beg at the dinner table?

>> No.15412499

>>15400307
being morally inconsistent or even hypocritical is proof of consciousness

>> No.15412520

>>15402977
>Get your retarded psychological projection habit under control, dumb bitch.
A squirrel looked at you like you was retarded didn't it?

>> No.15412528

>>15407809
/thread

>> No.15412888

>>15400307
>it has no ability to genuinely learn
No, it means it has an owner with no ability to genuinely teach.

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>>15400344
Oh and I am meant to believe you are one of these rare exceptions?

>> No.15412899

>>15400383
By this logic a modern calculator or computer is conscious
>can make sounds
>can recieve inputs (keystrokes, external data from hard drive)
>can be programmed (conditioned) to certain behavior from certain commands

>> No.15413263

>>15412897
I used to try and explain this to people around me, didn't work too well. It's not that they don't think that same thing,some do, but the problem is they don't want to share the burden of existing with you, they prefer to fall in love or care about people that act the part, but they're not really there. A beautiful lie vs the harsh truth. Not that I care, but before coming to any conclusion, when I was younger, I tried giving people a chance. Now I rarely leave my room and I am totally fine with that.

>> No.15413368

>>15412897
change it to "stop internal monologue" and you will get a very different picture.

>> No.15413736

>>15412899
Yes:)
As i said here:>>15411500
I do not see conaciousness as a thing (propert or an entity) but rather as "what is happening".
For me difference between PC/Calculator is no more then in type of structure and process they operate by.
>Yes i think humans are not special

>> No.15413738

>>15413736
Edit
>For me difference between PC/Calculator AND humans

>> No.15413739

>>15411496
>Wind is sound, wind does not produce sound.
wrong.
>Dogs have abillity to train which requires perception
proof?
>Phisycal control and mental conditionig are not same thing.
proof?

>> No.15413752

>>15413739
Bro... you hear wind, you do not hear what wind is saying wtf

Bro how will you train in something if you cannot percieve it. Make difference between object X and Y?

Bro.. it is one thing to tie plant to a stick and another to teach a dog difference between X and Y.
It is one thing to stop dog from runing by tieng him to a leash and teaching him not to run away

>> No.15413758

>>15400307
you'd be the same way if your sole food source was a gay retard
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dmhMTEixdrLq/

>> No.15413766

>>15413752
>Bro... you hear wind, you do not hear what wind is saying wtf
sound isn't language. what exactly do you think sound is? stupid zoomer retard. i don't even have the patience to read the rest of your post.

>> No.15413775

>>15413766
An product of interaction between sensory organ and reallity.
Wtf do you think sound is boy?

>> No.15413777

>>15413775
propagation of air waves. dumb fuck.

>> No.15413779

>>15413777
So wind is sound?

>> No.15413783

>>15413779
wind creates sound. wind is created by complicated weather patterns, and wind makes pressure waves in the air.

>> No.15413786

>>15413783
Then wtf do you think this means:
>interaction between sensory organ and reallity.

>> No.15413793

>>15413766
How did you even confuse a fucming growling (reaction) with a sound you boomer midwit. Clearly i did not refere to a fricking sound but to a reaction.
And even if i refered to a sound of growling, how can you still compare a sound created by a fucking structural process and a fucking wind.

>> No.15413809

>>15413786
schizobabble.

>> No.15414397

>>15401687
Only good post in this thread.

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>>15412897
Imagine the smug look on Randal's face when he was putting that one together.
>hahaha i'll make a comic about how everyone except me is stupid and lacking in self awareness

>> No.15415605

>>15415279
the ifls crowd isn't known for it's self awareness or deep thinking ability

>> No.15415686

>>15408180
because their cocks are 7 inches average and despite what your mom told you and your micro dick, women love large dicks

>> No.15416118

>>15412897
This is a rich comic coming from Randall " did I mention I worked at NASA?" Monroe

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>>15415605
people who love science are low iq, people who see it as something to use to create better things are another story, the lfls crowd are the former, the people who built civilization are the later, there is no overlap betwixt the two groups

>> No.15417440

>>15400344
but... I was told that empathy was a beta trait!

>> No.15417776

>>15416118
Randal thought the R9K algorithm would produce good content, he is clearly a low iq moron

>> No.15418185

>>15417440
Empathy is a sigma trait.

>> No.15418200

>>15400307
Your dog sounds like OP

>> No.15418458

>>15417776
The problem with R9K is just the people who use it, not the algorithm itself. It's the same with this site as a whole, many of its current problems are not because of its design but because of the people who use it.

>> No.15419154

>>15418458
>i hate 4chan
why are you here?

>> No.15419161

>>15419154
>something has problems
>therefore you hate it
It's good on the whole, some aspects are bad

>> No.15419202

My dog won't eat unless I eat something first
Its kind of annoying lol

>> No.15419810

>>15419161
maybe you're the problem, maybe 4chan would be better if you tried harder to be a good contributor instead of just complaining like a little bitch that everyone else is at fault

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>>15400307

>> No.15420189

>>15415605
So what you're telling me is that Ive been listening and paying attention to a bunch of fuckwits that actually dont use the science they preach? Well that explains a fuckton there bro.

>> No.15420197

>>15420179
pinin' for the fjords

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>>15420197

>> No.15421424

>>15420189
IFLS would swallow cyanide if Bill Nye told them to

>> No.15422507

>>15418458
the algorithm is what attracts those people, people with no self awareness, people like you

>> No.15423629

>>15421424
I wish he would
>Jonestown University

>> No.15423949

>>15411569
>when a dog maims a retard that's ba-AAAAAAH SAVE ME IT'S RIPPING OFF MY NEOPENIS NOO I HATE DOGS
Fuck off

>> No.15425577

>>15423949
i bet dogs could be trained to sniff out trannies due to their weird mix of hormones

>> No.15426630

>>15421424
Probably wouldn't cost that much to get a whore like Nye to say that

>> No.15427801

>>15411483
>German shepards let police illegally search cars
pothead with a guilty conscience
maybe you should just stop driving while inebriated

>> No.15428469

>>15403530
Ernest Jones, in 1913, was the first to construe extreme narcissism, which he called the "God-complex", as a character flaw. He described people with God-complex as being aloof, self-important, overconfident, auto-erotic, inaccessible, self-admiring, and exhibitionistic, with fantasies of omnipotence and omniscience. He observed that these people had a high need for uniqueness.

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>> No.15428738

just admit that when you buy animal products you are supporting suffering and agony. stop coping about it

>> No.15428785

>>15428738
>Using loaded terms without defining them
Define suffering. Define agony.

>> No.15428815

>>15428785
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nociception

>> No.15430036

>>15428738
you're unable to differentiate between animals and humans because of your infantile solipsism.

>> No.15430619

>>15428735
greedy bitch

>> No.15430623

>>15428738
Just admit that life is suffering and it can't be avoided.

>> No.15430625

>>15427801
They are trained to smell money too, so it can be confiscated in case you want to buy drugs without any evidence you actually intend to do that.

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>>15428738
Yes based
Morality is for fags
Kant died a virgin
Meat is tasty
I don’t care about the suffering of animal
Fuck em

>> No.15430650

>>15400307
This same argument could be easily applied to humans.
When they are rich (or believe they have a fair chance at getting rich), they will embrace libertarian principles.
When they are poor (and they realize they are likely to stay poor all their life), they will embrace communist principles.
Every single living being is driven by self-interest (who else is gonna take care of you unless you take care of yourself?) and will embrace whatever doctrine he finds more convenient to him.
Which is why most people seem to need a sky daddy who will punish them if they harm other people. Morality would have no need for religion if being altruistic were a common trait among humans.

>> No.15430697

>>15430650
>atheist projects it's repulsive, amoral, selfish, nauseating & valueless personality onto everyone else

>> No.15431176

>>15430697
Keep praying hard. I'm sure your "soul" will magically get into heaven once your corpse is rotting in the ground because you're just such a good person like all the other special snowflakes who come to church with you.

>> No.15431370

>>15413263
You, the human animal, are a fundamentally social creature. You damage yourself denying yourself meaningful human connection.

>> No.15431379

>>15431370
That's his point, humans are rare.
consider how the vaxxrate is 80%, and of the remaining 20% how many didn't take it on purpose, and not out of laziness, lack of availability, or obedience to a local authority ?

The likelihood that you'd encounter a human is low, and that is just tiring to comb through shit in the hopes of finding interesting.
And even if you find a human, doesn't mean you'd actually get along, personalities and interests are multitudes after all.

>> No.15431398

>>15400307
your mom is raping your dog at 6pm every day when you go to the store for smokes

>> No.15431418

>>15431398
Can't rape the willing, woof.

>> No.15431480

>>15430625
stfu pothead drug addict

>> No.15432088

>>15400307
And you wouldn't be the same way if you weren't living in comfort?

>> No.15432636

>>15432088
>dogs don't live in comfort

>> No.15432681

Most humans are the same. The same could be said about rich Corporations who beg for bailouts.
>capitalism for thee, socialism for me
Its the same shite.

>> No.15433710

>>15400307
But if i assaulted you he'd jump in to protect you.
And if i was successful to the point of you dying your dog would be sad for quite a while.
All these argumentes ignore the emotions you can inflict upon the animal.
I call it the fish feel no pain argument it's made by people who can't cope with the fact their lifestyles inflict suffering upon animals.

>> No.15434158

>>15433710
>i project my own human mental content on animals
>i can't tell the difference between dogs and people
>i can't control my emotional psychological projection
immature or low iq, probably both

>> No.15434739

>>15416118
NASA should hire ppl who can build rockets instead of wasting resources on lame cartoonists

>> No.15436215

>>15403434
the n word is racist

>> No.15436893

>>15434739
they don't care because its not their money. they waste & steal as much as they can and then use that to justify asking for ever larger increases to next years budget.

>> No.15436896

>>15400307
you are an animal retard

>> No.15436902
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>>15436896
God placed humanity above the animals.

>> No.15436909

>>15436902
god doesn't exist

>> No.15436918

>>15400307
>being a hypocrite means you are not conscious
This definition would exclude 99.9% of humanity.

>> No.15436950

>>15400343
>WOWOWOW LE HECKIN BASED FROG. THIS POST IS B A S E D BECAUSE LE HECKIN SMUG FROGERINO WOWOWOWOW

>> No.15437371

>>15436918
>everyone except me is dumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

>> No.15437373

>>15436902
My God says otherwise. Also says you are heretic.

>> No.15437380

>>15437371
But he did not say that..
But hey nkw that we are larping as psychologysts you might read this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>> No.15437435

>>15400307
Or... he's very hungry.

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>>15436909

>> No.15439232

>>15404981
friendless, childless nutters got triggered by this post

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>>15436909
soience and atheism, is there a more natural pairing? maybe urine and feces?

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How do we know plants don't have these kind of emotions fr?

>> No.15441057

>>15400307
You have a poorly trained dog which is a reflection of your own lack of self-discipline, inability to achieve anything, and overall low intelligence

>> No.15442257

>>15441057
massively triggered

>> No.15442263

>>15441057
Well, at least it's begging rather than hopping up on the table and eating.

Either way, just because you're a greedy bitch doesn't mean you aren't conscious.

>> No.15442669

>>15440534
good question, none of the animal rights activists can ever answer it

>> No.15442702

>>15400307
Proof that niggers don't consciousness
When I told a nigger that smoking crack will land him in prison, he didn't understand, and smoked it anyway.
When the cops came he acted surprised and chimped out. I also told him earlier if he shot at the cops that they would kill him, but he didn't believe that either apparently.
He's dead now, niggers are worse than animals, they can't even be trained. They're like faulty machinery in a factory that refuses to work right.
Niggers are not alive.

>> No.15442703

>>15442702
Enough with the antisemitism.