/sfg/ Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15395898]

Starship concepts over the years - edition

Previous >>15395071

[Anonymous No.15395905]

>>15395898
Based
No talking about previous thread drama

[Anonymous No.15395907]

https://spacenews.com/astrobotic-purchases-falcon-heavy-for-third-lunar-lander-mission/

> Astrobotic currently offers two landers: Peregrine, capable of carrying up to 120 kilograms of payloads, and Griffin, with a payload capacity of 500 kilograms. Peregrine will fly on Astrobotic’s first mission, scheduled for no earlier than this summer on the inaugural launch of United Launch Alliance’s Vulcan Centaur. It is carrying payloads for NASA through the CLPS program as well as for other customers, and is intended to land near a region called the Gruithuisen Domes on the northeast edge of Oceanus Procellarum, or Ocean of Storms, on the western part of the moon’s near side.

>Griffin will fly Astrobotic’s second mission, carrying NASA’s VIPER rover to look for ice deposits at the lunar south pole, also through CLPS. That mission will launch on a Falcon Heavy in late 2024.

> Another lunar lander developer, Intuitive Machines, has three lander missions on its books, all part of CLPS. The first of those, IM-1, is scheduled to launch as soon as June on a Falcon 9. Ben Bussey, chief scientist at Intuitive Machines, said on the panel that the company is close to finalizing a lander mission, called IMC-1, without any NASA payloads.

> None of the companies involved with CLPS, though, has yet to land a spacecraft on the moon, a challenge highlighted by the unsuccessful landing of HAKUTO-R M1, a lunar lander by Japanese company ispace, which took place while the panel was in progress.

[Anonymous No.15395909]

Goreposter, do your thing

[Anonymous No.15395911]

Janitors, clean it up

[Anonymous No.15395916]

https://spacenews.com/ast-spacemobile-conducts-first-direct-to-device-voice-test/

> An unmodified Samsung Galaxy S22 using mobile spectrum from AT&T directly connected to the satellite April 20 from Midland, Texas, for a brief chat with an iPhone user in Japan using local operator Rakuten’s network.

> Abel Avellan, AST SpaceMobile’s CEO, said the voice tests marked “the most significant milestone to date” for the company following the launch in September of BlueWalker 3 and its colossal 64-square-meter phased array antenna.

[Anonymous No.15395917]

The first launch of an Australian rocket with an Australian payload is delayed till
August, likely longer
https://www.aumanufacturing.com.au/celebrating-australian-sovereign-capability-2023-is-the-year-for-liftoff
>@AuManufacturing: On the topic of getting to space, could we please get an update on the Bowen spaceport?
>Adam Gilmour: We’re moving along very well on that. We’ve done most of the major infrastructure, we’ve got one concrete pour to go for the main launchpad. We’re in the process of manufacturing our fluids tower – that’s the big thing you see next to the rocket that loads it up before launch. And the other piece that we’re in manufacture with is the launcher erector, which is what you bring the rocket out onto on the pad and erect it up vertically. And those are the last two bits of the puzzle. And we’ve got to finish all our approval process as well. But we’re looking to have all of that done in the next three months.
>@AuManufacturing: So you are still on track to launch the first Eris flight this year?
>Adam Gilmour: Yes we are. We’re trying very hard to launch by August.
Adam Copemour more like lmao

[Anonymous No.15395926]

>>15395866
Back in the day we had our resident autists, we had the proontfag(3d printed hab obsession), the spaceplane autist, the von braun obsessed anon, the tunnelfag, the oneil cylinder purist, the space elevator retard and quite a few others. Collagefag was a newer one during the time of our fast moving boards which im guessing the image limit was the reason for the collages. Collagefag started advocating for a space board and thus started making threads outside of /sfg/ which basically split the board into supporters/nonsupporters. It caused a ruckus but it calmed down.
>here comes animefag
Pic related is why animefag came here, he spammed his anime girls until it pissed people off which he then sarted detailing threads with arguments. When that happened he started making OPs with animegirls at the image which caused a war between him and the collagefag who then started threadwars where they posted threads the second the old one hit pg 10. When that happened threads got split people started arguing and the space discussion almost died. Anime anon started spamming porn and gore ( see >>15395857
) in threads he didn't make and collagefag spammed anti anime memes. It tore us apart and we lost most of the oldfags over it.

[Anonymous No.15395932]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

not especially much activity yet?

[Anonymous No.15395940]

STAGING
>>15395071
>>15395071
>>15395071

[Anonymous No.15395943]

>>15395917
That's cruel, anon, you just depleted /sfg/'s australia branch of it's entire deep reserve of copium.

[Anonymous No.15395968]

>>15395943
>/sfg/'s australia branch
is that a thing?

[Anonymous No.15395972]

>>15395968
>>15395943
There’s at least three of us.

[Anonymous No.15395976]

Its fucked, its over

[Anonymous No.15395981]

>>15395898
>>15395907
>>15395917
>>15395926
>endless delays and failures
The Earth is flat with a dome.
God exists.

Aliens don't exist.
Space isn't real.
Gravity doesn't exist.
Never went to the moon.
Asteroids don't exist.
UFOs are a psyop.
Nukes don't exist.
Evolution is a lie.
Germ Theory is a lie.

The world is ruled by secret societies that worship Satan. Jews/Jesuits/Freemasons/Illuminati are Gnostics and Kabbalists. Masters at deception. One satanic philosophy is inverting reality.

They make you think you live on a spinning ball.
They make you think you're just an animal.
They make you think there's a deadly virus out there.

[Anonymous No.15395984]

10 proofs space is a complete meme:

https://youtu.be/lKg-yn86zp4
https://youtu.be/p-BFmn2S_jU
https://youtu.be/BVJgObFHLY4
https://youtu.be/ru5fdfovkGI
https://youtu.be/74KRZt5oJME
https://youtu.be/tdwy-hxS-ts
https://youtu.be/UAx5cl9VpTE
https://youtu.be/JlFnJPFjcc0
https://youtu.be/XetG30_YOeo
https://youtu.be/ziVLbEoQ4Sc
https://youtu.be/k0xClWgidZU
https://youtu.be/UbYtkrTquXE
https://youtu.be/1WHIr-IFqAo
https://youtu.be/WcqKUhU0WDc
https://youtu.be/wPrDg0CtWnk
https://youtu.be/hoGTBdu7dMc
https://youtu.be/mcLwr86emds
https://youtu.be/U_bJYXS9p4A
https://youtu.be/JOqc63Pp9OA
https://odysee.com/@probablyalexandra:6/an-inconvenient-history:b
https://youtu.be/X-w8acuxF6w
https://youtu.be/nGLJ5XJP3uE
https://youtu.be/olbyJDou4qQ
https://youtu.be/0Q18iSz6mus
https://youtu.be/CLzj4PKJ2O4
https://youtu.be/aFFM3YJAs4Q
https://youtu.be/Stft_t48Hxc
https://youtu.be/OPQLFlf89s8
https://youtu.be/QWa7lTxhrKI
https://youtu.be/hyo8eKrinDM
https://youtu.be/DdLLamniSyg
https://youtu.be/udjk_FB80kM
https://youtu.be/4nKIN_eHYxw
https://youtu.be/fDBRhxryfZM
https://youtu.be/-rmDj1MJyaY
https://youtu.be/Kv9-JuLRpg0
https://youtu.be/7Eeo-82Eac8
https://youtu.be/DHhgLnIvuAs
https://youtu.be/CDG4oiCx_is
https://youtu.be/wz68Q2Nz05A
https://youtu.be/WffliCP2dU0
https://youtu.be/uUuTAflN1rU
https://youtu.be/lkmY_4PKMlY
https://youtu.be/McdMMmclGVc
https://youtu.be/Cm7fBZq-8T4
https://youtu.be/4SlRsbQ3nfM
https://youtu.be/Z36Ns7KUYHw
https://youtu.be/XhIwZuPGfss
https://youtu.be/CATklVkPEMw
https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA
https://youtu.be/ofp8qiL3dTs
https://youtu.be/WXaXnAvEpB8
https://youtu.be/gWnFMWqDRQE
https://youtu.be/EvnrD49RmAY
https://youtu.be/3wU8_jT61eE
https://www.youtube.com/c/DeanOdleEurope/videos
https://worldtruthvideos.website/watch/the-rulers-and-their-secret-signs_Dr5f3CZu6CvGLgW.html

[Anonymous No.15395985]

I don't like this business of contriving excuses for early staging. /sfg/ has rule and order and those need to outweigh the attention whoring desires of OP

[Anonymous No.15395987]

Last but not least:

https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/NASA---Going-Nowhere-Since-1958-(Full-Documentary):4

[Anonymous No.15395988]

>>15395981
>>15395984
This is why you dont prestage

[Anonymous No.15395989]

>>15395972
I also drop by now and then, but I'm usually fighting the good fight outside of /sfg/. At least we have a space industry now. Here's to hoping we can be in the race once space industry takes off. Be nice to see us launch a few probes or a rover but this budget isn't looking positive.

[Anonymous No.15395993]

>>15395987
After a rocket explosion, it is standard procedure for the FAA to initiate an investigation and ground the spacecraft indefinitely to assess potential hazards until a conclusion has been reached.

[Anonymous No.15396009]

remember to report and ignore.
Anyways whats going on with the falcon heavy delays I keep hearing about? Are spacex slipping up or is something else happening? My guess is the Vandenberg lease is an effort to get falcon heavy up and running more quickly.

[Anonymous No.15396018]

>>15395993
You are being fed lies and propaganda your whole life. All your blind beliefs are hanging by a thread, your only hope now is for CGI to significantly improve in the near future so that you may continue to enjoy the globohomo propaganda from the comfort of your home.

The average space fan will avoid the truth at all cost, as you can see I post a video that shatters their illusions, he replies with some pathetic post about the FAA.

[Anonymous No.15396021]

>>15395989
Literally the only way we get the funding and engineers and land we need is by appealing to muh sovereignty discourse. I don’t see any other way. It’ll still be scraps but maybe we can convince a few people that launch and manufacture capabilities are necessary to be sovereign

[Anonymous No.15396024]

>>15395981
True, true
>>15395984
do you have any other resources or books on this? fascinating

[Anonymous No.15396030]

>>15395985
but this is an anonymous board?

[Anonymous No.15396036]

>>15396018
Imagine living in a world where you cannot leave, where your only recourse to a pozzed world is to fight or put up with it. Sounds like something a fed would push.

[Anonymous No.15396045]

>>15396018
Actually I replied to the wrong thread and wrong post, but sure believe that you absolute schizo

[Anonymous No.15396056]

>>15396021
All the suits who run this place aren't interested in sovereignty. They're quite happy getting spitroast by the UK and USgAy. With all the sabre rattling right now it's obvious we could have a significant footprint in space but instead we are being told to bully China and the suits obey. In the medium term, depending upon how global events unravel, we might get a foot in the door. I try to stay positive.

[Anonymous No.15396057]

EMERGENCY ABORT SUCCESS

[Anonymous No.15396058]

Based jannies???

[Anonymous No.15396059]

>>15396052
All I can do is unsubscribe and spread unfounded rumors about him, like I done with Tom Mueller and Isaac Arthur before him

[Anonymous No.15396061]

>>15396058
Just too lazy to delete posts and give out well deserved bans.

[Anonymous No.15396065]

>>15396059
You will NEVER be pakeha
You will NEVER bang a 6’ 5” 150kg Tongan mommy
You will NEVER have a sexy female PM
You will NEVER defeat Sauron
You will NEVER haka with your Māori bros
And you will NEVER, EVER design a successful spaceplane

[Anonymous No.15396068]

[Anonymous No.15396069]

>SOURCE: Biden is considering the unprecedented move of grounding the Starship space program. The FAA & EPA will reportedly ground the program for investigations and studies that could take years. Democrats see @elonmusk as a threat to their survival.
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1650873830280183812
> inb4 b-but the DoD will save him
> inb4 muh community notes

[Anonymous No.15396071]

>>15396069
Why even post this garbage again? The links he tweeted are completely unrelated. Is this your Twitter or something?

[Anonymous No.15396074]

>>15396065
The SpaceX Starship is a space plane because it can fly in both the atmosphere and outer space, using aerodynamic lift and rocket propulsion. I dont understand a word of your post and I dont want to

[Anonymous No.15396076]

>>15396036
>>15396045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUL7y8AMeU8

At this point they aren't even feeding you happiness anymore like they've done in the past, just one disappointment after another. My only guess is they are waiting for the CGI to catch up before they can broadcast Mars missions and galactic space wars straight into your brain. I bet a large portion of you sciencebois are vaxxed so the transmission will be seamless.

[Anonymous No.15396079]

>>15396074
Sorry, Eric has deb00nked you…

[Anonymous No.15396080]

Reminder to report all avatarfagging.

[Anonymous No.15396081]

>>15396076
Wasn’t a spaceplane. Off topic

[Anonymous No.15396082]

>>15396069
Literally standard operating procedure like the community notes said

[Anonymous No.15396083]

>>15396079
Eric Gunnerson has done unsavory things behind his wife's back

[Anonymous No.15396084]

>>15396083
He once jerked off on a man’s turd in the restroom and ate it.

[Anonymous No.15396085]

>>15396076
Yeah, we watched that live. It failed just like Beresheet and ISRO's lander. Turns out trying to land on the moon with a medium lift rocket is really difficult.

[Anonymous No.15396086]

[Anonymous No.15396088]

>>15396069
Biden has 0 idea what is going on in the US space industry
he was in congress for 40 years and voted on exactly 0 pieces of space policy
he couldn't give less of a shit

[Anonymous No.15396089]

[Anonymous No.15396090]

>>15396089
>avatarfagging

[Anonymous No.15396092]

>>15395987
>>15395984
>>15395981
This is the anime fag

[Anonymous No.15396095]

>>15395932
some crane activity

[Anonymous No.15396097]

You ever wonder if the janny is a flat earth schizo and that’s why he hates this general?

[Anonymous No.15396099]

>>15396084
good God...and that happened at the Mars Society conference. There's a good chance Zubrin smelled Eric's breath afterward

[Anonymous No.15396102]

>>15396092
OBJECTION!

[Anonymous No.15396104]

>>15396097
a few flat earth posts that are ignored at the start of the thread isn't that disruptive

[Anonymous No.15396105]

>Aussienaut
>not Austronaut
Aussies can’t even into namery

[Anonymous No.15396107]

>>15396089
>>15396090
>>15396092
Hmmmmm

[Anonymous No.15396108]

something is happening

[Anonymous No.15396110]

>>15396105
stop shilling your shitty company. it's extremely uninteresting

[Anonymous No.15396111]

>>15396102
Your ip doesn't lie

[Anonymous No.15396112]

>>15396110
I think gilmour are losers anon, isn’t that obvious? Every post I make about them is about how they fail to launch anything

[Anonymous No.15396113]

>>15396071
This board is frequently raided by a small group of what I suspect are religiously motivated trolls who target specific topics like space exploration and anti-aging threads.

[Anonymous No.15396115]

>>15396111
Ok, then give my IP a polygraph test

[Anonymous No.15396118]

>>15396112
you could say that about any other of the 1000 small launch scams.

[Anonymous No.15396119]

starting to build scaffolding or something

[Anonymous No.15396121]

>>15396119
They are building the runway?

[Anonymous No.15396123]

>>15396121
They're building the gallows where you will be hanged, ban evading faggot

[Anonymous No.15396125]

There has recently been some narratives sifting towards UFO disclosure, and it is my opinion that we’re shifting towards the direction of full disclosure on anti-gravity technology and it’s relation to the world of magic and the occult in general. It’s widely known that the founder of NASA was a follower of Allister Crowley and that space launch and NRO patches have frequently featured magic and the world of occult. The reason for this is because the world of space is inherently tied in with the world of magic; the occult is simply a graphical summarization of the realities that exist beyond our planet.

So why is authoritarianism important to the release of technology?

We as humans currently possess anti-gravity technology, and this technology is so simple that once publicly known, anyone could build it in their garage. The problem with this is that the technology can also be used for incidentally creating a solar flare so large that it could destroy the planet and kill the entire population, so once this simple technology is known, anyone could basically wipe out the planet, causing complete chaos.

There will never be the public release of this technology until the entire population can be placed under mass surveillance and put under control by the powers that be to a sufficient enough degree to stop a person from building something in their garage that could threaten the planet. It is already possible to remote view and remote kill anyone who is a threat to certain forces, but these capabilities are not public and their existence is controversial for reasons outlined in the book 1984. Nevertheless, they are used today, and people that pose a sufficient enough risk to society are actively taken out, but these capabilities are not publicly disclosed.

[Anonymous No.15396126]

Steelplatebros… we’re so back

[Anonymous No.15396127]

>>15396088
For 'Biden', read 'Biden's puppeteers'

[Anonymous No.15396129]

>>15396107
You got me bro. I seriously don't know how you do it

[Anonymous No.15396130]

>>15396107
>he didn’t get the obvious avatarfagging joke

[Anonymous No.15396131]

[Anonymous No.15396132]

I'M MELTING! I'M MMMEEEELTING

[Anonymous No.15396135]

>>15396131
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM GOING INSANE SAVE ME COLLAGEMAN

[Anonymous No.15396136]

[Anonymous No.15396141]

/sfg/ is dead

[Anonymous No.15396143]

>>15395898
You downloaded that pic straight from reddit you fag

[Anonymous No.15396145]

>>15396141
for good this time.

[Anonymous No.15396146]

>>15396110
Ausfag here. What's the better strat: Getting into Gilmour or jumping over to pond to Rocketlab? Or perhaps wait it out and hope we get exempted from ITAR because of AUKUS.

[Anonymous No.15396150]

>>15396146
no matter what you are doing
work on getting dual citizenship with america
this country could collapse at any moment

[Anonymous No.15396152]

>>15395898
wasn't the first SS supposed to land on Mars in 2020?

[Anonymous No.15396156]

So how the fuck did Hakuto-R run out of fuel when it was landing, did they fuck up and use too much fuel beforehand?

[Anonymous No.15396159]

>>15396146
Rocketlab is technically a yank company and you will be subject to ITAR. They will ask you hard questions about people you barely remember, not joking. Knew a guy from Rocketlab told me exactly that. They also are quite picky as they have the right to be. Being an Aussie it wouldn’t be hard to get over there ofc. You could also try dawn aerospace, the spaceplane fags beaver is shilling right now, they’re kiwis and likely a bit less picky. Could build up your resume that way
I’m very bearish on Gilmour. I don’t see a future for them that isn’t limping along on gibs from the government. But I could be wrong. I know a few people who are bullish on them. I would prefer if we could have a domestic aerospace industry that at least met our national security launch needs

[Anonymous No.15396161]

Total spaceplane death

[Anonymous No.15396169]

STILL have no idea what the fuck lunar clipper is supposed to be

[Anonymous No.15396181]

>>15396069
> twitter polposting
please go back

[Anonymous No.15396182]

>>15396159
I still have a shot though...right bros?

[Anonymous No.15396184]

>>15396152
Wasnt that a Falcon though? And afaik the falcon heavy could complete the OG mission goal, which started this whole pirate adventure with the capture the flag on Mars
Slippery slope is very real

[Anonymous No.15396185]

>>15396024
There is some, though certainly not as exciting as the globohomo literature with aliens, black holes, galactic federations, asteroids and other retarded mysteries.

[Anonymous No.15396186]

>>15396182
Does a security check involve looking at search history and social media posts nd dms?

[Anonymous No.15396188]

>>15396182
>He asks, on 4channel
It's over

[Anonymous No.15396189]

> Dawn aerospace has chosen a different plan - their goal is to start with a small highly reusable aircraft and evolve that into a launch system that uses a spaceplane for the booster and an expendable second stage.
Kind of interesting actually, not trying to make an orbital spaceplane
just use the spaceplane as a booster (then perhaps a spaceplane as second stage at some point, but developing 2 different vehicles simultaneously are too costly/complex)
This is basically a Falcon 9 competitor eventually?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAO5qxNpZ4c

[Anonymous No.15396191]

>>15396182
Unironically yes. You’re Australian right? They’ll run a background on you but that isn’t a No. I wouldn’t worry about it, but the background check and interrogation is a reality and could stop you, and if you’re an ABC you’re fucked, and you’d probably be fucked if you tried to work at Gilmour.

[Anonymous No.15396195]

>>15396125
>So why is authoritarianism important to the release of technology?
You are right about a few things here. The earth is flat however.

[Anonymous No.15396198]

>>15396189
Yeah I lack their philosophy of rapid testing, I like that they didn’t fall for the SSTO meme or the manned meme, and I like a rocket that can be launched almost literally anywhere. I can see it having a small but successful niche. They’re definitely not a scamlaunch company at least, they have hardware and they’re testing and developing it.

[Anonymous No.15396200]

>>15396189
>>15396198
Oh and I like their little cubesat engine, seems very practical and well thought out economically

[Anonymous No.15396205]

>>15396198
working their way up from a aeroplane towards a suborbital first stage with constant testing seems like a good idea, the first tests were just for the airframe that didn't even have a rocket engine
looks like something that might compete in the Astra rocket-in-a-box niche (assuming that niche exists, not really sure it does)

if they scale the first stage up, and the develop a manned second stage that is a space plane too, then theoretically couldn't that be safer than something like starship that has no passive landing capability? not really sure about that though
being able to passively come down with wings with no need for propulsion sounds like it could be safer in principle, but then when you look at the space shuttle I'm not so sure anymore

[Anonymous No.15396207]

>>15396205
Is this a hybrid jet/ram-jet/rocket engine plane?
What exactly is the design philosophy here

[Anonymous No.15396210]

>>15396207
They built the first one with a jet engine to test and develop the software and airframe. They just finished the second one which had a rocket engine and have tested it. Next is a test of actually carrying a payload. Eventually they’re planning a larger markIII which they hope to have roughly comparable to F9

[Anonymous No.15396212]

>>15396210
So its basically a Jet engine which then switches to a rocket system at a certain altitude?

[Anonymous No.15396214]

>>15396212
No.
MkI used a jet engine
MkII uses a rocket engine
MkIII will also use a rocket engine

[Anonymous No.15396215]

>>15396074
It doesn't generate lift, only enough drag to help slow it down

[Anonymous No.15396217]

>>15396214
So not a hybrid whatsoever? Seems strange, I dont really get it desu

[Anonymous No.15396218]

>>15396207
not a hybrid, just a simple reusable rocket engine
not much is known about Mk-3 yet, but I would assume its just a scaled up version with a simple rocket engine too or that is the impression I get from Eager Spaces video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mJ1JLF0xGI
https://newatlas.com/space/dawn-aerospace-mk-ii-aurora-first-rocket-flights/

[Anonymous No.15396219]

>>15396189
>>15396198
When aerial refueling?

[Anonymous No.15396220]

>>15396219
MUSTARD makes more sense than this

[Anonymous No.15396221]

>>15396217
You should watch Eager’s vid, it’s short >>15396189
Tl;dr rapidly develop a medium (lower end medium) launch vehicle that can be launched anywhere with a runaway (targeting small airfields) and which is partially rapidly reusable with an expendable upper stage.

[Anonymous No.15396227]

>>15396198
>hey have hardware and they’re testing and developing it.
so does ARCA

[Anonymous No.15396229]

Pegasus is airlaunched and the plane gives it just 8% of required dV
Mk-3 Aurora would give 27% (calculated based on some assumptions
Falcon 9 first stage gives 35%

[Anonymous No.15396231]

>>15396227
Your moms software gives me hardware lmao

[Anonymous No.15396238]

What happened in the last thread? I wake up to brand new thread even though last one was nowhere near page 10 just a few hours ago

[Anonymous No.15396245]

>>15396238
Janny nuked after a mutually assured meltdown. Genuinely don’t ask and just skim the bottom half and don’t post about it. The shape of this thread is good so far and the drama is best forgotten

[Anonymous No.15396246]

>>15396245
First time I have seen a janny actually complain and leave a reply

[Anonymous No.15396247]

What was with the biconics craze of the 80s & 90s?

[Anonymous No.15396250]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdvkb9UEf30


Live Starlink launch

[Anonymous No.15396251]

>>15396246
>First time I have seen a janny actually complain and leave a reply
source?

[Anonymous No.15396254]

>>15396250
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1651218339820347392

Live from twitter as well

[Anonymous No.15396255]

12th launch of this booster

[Anonymous No.15396256]

I'm a bit out of the loop with Falcon. What's the highest amount of times a booster has flown?

[Anonymous No.15396257]

>>15396256
14? 15?

[Anonymous No.15396259]

>>15396255
>tardx can’t even make new boosters
>has to use old ones
Oh no no no

[Anonymous No.15396260]

>>15396256
15 is their limit so far. They will build new boosters or fly less flown ones before they consider what to with them.

[Anonymous No.15396261]

Aborted

[Anonymous No.15396262]

HOLD HOLD HOLD

[Anonymous No.15396266]

Looks rainy.

[Anonymous No.15396265]

HODL HODL HODL HODL

[Anonymous No.15396268]

Apparently water is getting inside the fuel tank

[Anonymous No.15396271]

Scrub due to probability of landing failure. I wonder if its due to waves at the ocean.

[Anonymous No.15396272]

Which ship is this? New pic, the tiles on the nosecone are perfect

[Anonymous No.15396273]

>>15395940
is this what you call hot staging?

[Anonymous No.15396275]

scrub due to probability of landing failure. It's over

[Anonymous No.15396277]

[Anonymous No.15396279]

Any others?

[Anonymous No.15396280]

>>15396271
Waves should be something you can predict enough in advance that you wouldn't load propellants.

[Anonymous No.15396283]

can we just take a moment to take in all the failures SpaceX has recently endured?

[Anonymous No.15396285]

>>15396280
You now realize weather system prediction is only done at the last minute and needs to be manually approved as part of check out instead of "predicting enough in advance"

[Anonymous No.15396286]

>>15396283
JAXA: failed
SpaceX: failed
Follow the X….

[Anonymous No.15396287]

>>15396250
lmao
scrub + cant see shit

[Anonymous No.15396291]

>>15396279
not that I remember that are specifically built for Starship
maybe some in-space propulsion startups making space tugs could qualify

[Anonymous No.15396297]

they should have just made this

[Anonymous No.15396300]

>>15396297
Baste

[Anonymous No.15396304]

>>15396297
the only thing they should have done is spent the week to put in the flame diverter that they have on site

[Anonymous No.15396306]

ah I'm glad I'm only around during burger hours. all of that crap happened when I was asleep.
Good morning /sfg/! Have a fresh Percy photo from ingenuity

[Anonymous No.15396307]

Why wouldn't it work?

[Anonymous No.15396308]

>>15396306
All Romanians should be killed

[Anonymous No.15396311]

>>15396307
it'd totally work
just isn't worth the effort

[Anonymous No.15396312]

>>15396307
F9 performance increased enough that it isn't worth it. Many FH payloads can/were launched on F9 because of that.

[Anonymous No.15396317]

>>15396306
So just to be clear about previous thread, anime poster, Clear poster, collage poster, anti-anime poster, Zubrin poster AND von Braun tranny are all the same poster?

[Anonymous No.15396318]

>>15396285
Right. But surely there are some limits that preclude launch preparations that were barely passed if this was about the sea state.

[Anonymous No.15396319]

>>15396312
One would think that introduction of a reliable cheap heavy launch vehicle would lead to mass appearance of heavier payloads. That's the hope with Starship, but it's yet to happen with FH.

[Anonymous No.15396320]

>>15396307
SX can do the near impossible but even this is something they flat out gave up on

[Anonymous No.15396321]

>>15395898
Every artists impression got the exhaust plume wrong.

[Anonymous No.15396323]

>>15396306
So is the sky on Mars blue or red or purple or what? Can't get a straight answer.

[Anonymous No.15396324]

>>15396320
They gave up on conventional crossfeed, crossfeed with dedicated top tanks is something that was tested on feed simulator mockups for UR-700.

https://www.russianspaceweb.com/ur700a.html

[Anonymous No.15396325]

>>15396321
no there were some impressions that got it quite right.

[Anonymous No.15396326]

>>15396215
there are tweets from musk debunking you but i wont post them

[Anonymous No.15396327]

>>15396323
blue during sunset, sort of pink during the day. color is weird.

[Anonymous No.15396335]

Just 52 more weeks till next Starship launch Musk sisters, this time we'll shoot for exploding AFTER we separate.

[Anonymous No.15396337]

>>15396304
its not a flame diverter, its just a cooled steel plate

[Anonymous No.15396338]

>>15396318
prop load happens ~1hr-45 mins before launch. launch weather constraints check happens t-1m manually and obv counting for spacex.

Idk if you're new or not, but spacex has scrubbed many times after prop has loaded due to weather issues. They dont see the cost of not launching as greater than cost of prop load.

[Anonymous No.15396339]

>>15396335
You get the engines

[Anonymous No.15396340]

>>15396084
So these are the type of people that want to go to Mars?
Though that does sound like bullshit

[Anonymous No.15396341]

>>15396319
FH is still kind of expensive

[Anonymous No.15396342]

>>15396337
Why the fuck would he do that? Why not invest into some actual proper earthworks and not try to half-ass everything?

[Anonymous No.15396344]

>>15396342
why not? With some concrete and nothing else they only lost 5-8 engines. As long as nothing gets ejected it's a fine solution for the near future.

[Anonymous No.15396345]

>>15396337
it's not a flame trench, but it's definitely still a flame diverter

[Anonymous No.15396346]

>>15396342
You see Elon Musk is a degenerate scam artist and small dicked cult leader so he's less interested in success with proven tech than he is concerned with cool bullshit to entertain his fans like the water cooled steel plate bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15396347]

>>15396319
It's one of those things that is going to take some time to gain momentum. There are a number of factors why it's not being flown as often as possible right now. The first is that as soon as the Falcon Heavy went into use the lock downs started which put the world on hold for a while. It's also not as cheap as Starship will be. 100-300 million is extremely cheap compared to what it historically has been but that is still more money then most companies could afford to spend per launch to break into the space industry.
Musk is planning for Starships prices to get down to only 2 million per launch but even if he is off by a factor of 10 or 20 that is still going to make room for more people who want to start building space infrastructure. One you have some basic infrastructure people are going to want to add to it and the effect will start to snowball. You should read up on James J. Hill to get an idea of how this will play out in the long run. While written for high schoolers Burton Folsom Jr. book The Myth of the Robber Barons is a good primer on the subject.

[Anonymous No.15396348]

>>15396342
They already have the parts you dumb trooncher. Also his entire design process explains this well, he's trying to scale up Starship production and launches, if a massive fuck off flame trench isnt required to build a new site they will try their hardest to get rid of making them.

[Anonymous No.15396350]

>>15396346
>steel plate is somehow more entertaining than a massive flame trench
tranny logic

[Anonymous No.15396353]

>>15396342
because its simple and cheap and if it works it would be great

[Anonymous No.15396354]

going through my my older /sfg/ folder
are rockets good for you?

[Anonymous No.15396355]

>>15396348
Literally beat me to posting that by seconds. It's amazing how few people understand his iteration process.

[Anonymous No.15396363]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_T-15
>Docked with MIR
>Then flew to Salyut 7
>Then flew back to MIR

awesome

[Anonymous No.15396365]

>>15396354
Idk, How about you do a fume test for us and give the exhaust a whiff or fifty?

[Anonymous No.15396371]

Troonch sisters… what went wrong for us at Starbase? Will Felongated Muskrat never pay for our expensive and outdated ideas?

[Anonymous No.15396373]

[Anonymous No.15396374]

brickbros

[Anonymous No.15396376]

>>15396342
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15396375]

>trenches are outdated
Say that to my face and I'll fuck you up.

[Anonymous No.15396384]

>>15396375
Trenches. Are. Out. Dated. Get it through your thick fucking skull, we’ve been stuck in the 60s for 60 years now

[Anonymous No.15396385]

I want methane sweating back, it's not fair bros...

[Anonymous No.15396386]

>>15396374
> “Flawless” was one description of the May 31, 2008 launch
of the Space Shuttle Discovery on mission STS-124. So when
the NASA Safing team at Kennedy Space Center set out to
inspect Launch Pad 39A following that launch, they were
surprised to find the area littered with debris. Powerful
exhaust from Discovery’s liftoff breached the flame trench
wall at the base of the pad. Hot gases had penetrated the
trench lining system, blasting 3,540 refractory bricks into
and beyond the trench. Direct damage cost was estimated at
$2.5 million.
expendable trench

[Anonymous No.15396388]

Laser powered yeeters when?

[Anonymous No.15396391]

>SpaceX needs a flame diverte- ACK!

[Anonymous No.15396392]

[Anonymous No.15396394]

>>15396388

[Anonymous No.15396395]

Two GREAT options for launching high power rockets, exploding rockets, testing rockets, and general rocket tom foolery with little to no civilians around to get hurt....

>Central & Northern Nevada
&
>Open sea launches in international waters, NO FAA/EPA/FBI/CIA...but maybe the US Navy?

Why would super big brain Elon build the world's biggest rocket launch site next to a town(6 miles) and a fucking endangered sea turtle nesting grounds?! There is no way this faggot grifter will be launching Starships every week. It will make that tourist town near by a shattered waste with in a year. I'd be shocked if he launches from more than a hand full of times. He had so many better options and fucked it up like always.

https://youtu.be/PRTzVjFKom8

[Anonymous No.15396398]

[Anonymous No.15396407]

King shit

[Anonymous No.15396409]

TRENCH SISTERS WE’VE BEEN BETRAYED! How do we cope with this???

[Anonymous No.15396410]

>>15396409
OH NO NO NO NO NASA SISTERS HES COMING FOR US TOO! Someone get Common Sense Septic (axe wound) to deliver the copium rations!!

[Anonymous No.15396411]

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1651186671059185666

live feed of the pad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_8BZdKkrc8

[Anonymous No.15396412]

I'm a retard can I get a QRD on the Starship launch? Shouldn't the launch itself be trivial at this point? No Saturn Vs ever failed on the way up, right?

[Anonymous No.15396413]

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1650989030853562378

[Anonymous No.15396415]

>>15396412
>I'm a retard
yes you are. do basic research what you've asked has no qrd.

[Anonymous No.15396417]

>>15396409
> This new water-cooled deluge system and shielding added to the OLM over the past few months will be discussed in an upcoming @CSI_Starbase episode. Some speculation will be required as not all parts have been seen yet but it should answer some questions and get the point across.

https://twitter.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1650900012962832387

[Anonymous No.15396418]

>>15396342
First, because digging = water table fuckery and building up = soil settling takes ages, second because the required earthworks would likely extend beyond the current pad and thus require additional permits for wetlands work which could take years to get (if they hadn't dropped the first attempt at getting the permits, they could probably have them about done by now lol).
The other points about things being far easier if the steel plate just works™ are also valid, although that still leaves the question of whether it is a good idea to not deflect and enclose the acoustic loads at all for a rocket that is supposed to be reused multiple times.
See also >>15396391, apparently direct reflection actually results in the lowest loads, however this leaves out the option of further reducing loads by deflecting exhaust through a tunnel which will then take some of the acoustic loads as described elsewhere in the paper.

[Anonymous No.15396421]

>>15396247
Shittle front half with legs

[Anonymous No.15396422]

>>15396412
See Musk's five step process >>15396348 This wasn't ever about the rocket making it to space. It was about testing a early prototype (when this launched the next one lined up already had several hundred changes) and gathering data to figure out areas that still need to be worked on. If you spend years planning for everything going wrong instead of just testing you'll spend billions, take forever, and miss important stuff you could have found by blowing up rockets.
It may not look like sci-fi so it can be hard to keep in mind that this is cutting edge tech and being on the cutting edge is never trivial.

[Anonymous No.15396423]

>>15396306
wumao hours are even worse

[Anonymous No.15396425]

>50% of zoomers are moon landing skeptics

https://twitter.com/Endeavourov1/status/1641461480112418821?s=20

pretty grim

[Anonymous No.15396428]

>>15396342
because it works retard

[Anonymous No.15396430]

>>15396425
we take it back boomers, save us

[Anonymous No.15396433]

>>15396425
These are skewed results, zoomer myself not even 0.1% are skeptical. It is literally just Qtard MIGA boomers who believe this and it was likely one of them who made this shit up

[Anonymous No.15396434]

>>15396425
If humanity stays on earth for the next several hundred/thousand years, I fear knowledge of the Moon landings will become very esoteric, with this achievement falling into legend for most, a legend derided by the common masses who don't want to believe their civilization has been on a downhill trajectory. Who so utterly believe in the inevitability of progress, that they cannot reconcile this belief with the knowledge that they live in the shadows of 20th century men.

[Anonymous No.15396435]

>>15396425
because all they've seen are two photos in a textbook and a 7 second video clip on YouTube. Also, because they're given the OPTION of doubting it.
If a survey asked "Were the Hussite wars of 1419 a hoax?" you'd also get 50% of zoomers saying yes because, well, that's how these things work. If you had a survey saying "do you think the hexomelarithrin content in squash causes autism" you'd get 50%, etc etc.

[Anonymous No.15396436]

>>15396433
Retard, that doesn't say YOU PERSONALLY are 50% skeptical. It says 50% of your peers are skeptical, which is completely consistent with you being not even 0.1% skeptical.

[Anonymous No.15396439]

like 70% of Americans believe in leprechauns, who cares what the drooling masses think. Society has always been advanced by the top 3% of people.

[Anonymous No.15396440]

>>15396425
Zoomers are the dumbest generation, statistically speaking.

[Anonymous No.15396441]

>>15396425
>unsure
They're "unsure" because they're not old enough to start adamantly holding uninformed opinions like retard Qboomers and not educated enough to know anything about rocketry. They'd be "unsure" if you asked them if London is in Europe or Africa for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.15396442]

>>15396435
The Moon landings are featured heavily and often in modern media. The supposed Hussite wars of 1419 never are, and for all I know you just made them up. Literally never heard of them, but nobody alive today can claim they've never heard of the moon landings. Your comparison is trash, these aren't the same sort of things at all.

[Anonymous No.15396443]

>>15396425
Mulattos with perms are...dumb!? I would have said the opposite!

[Anonymous No.15396445]

>>15396434
If we don't get off fucking this rock it will devolve into some ancient myth shared by whatever low IQ retards exist in the future

[Anonymous No.15396446]

>>15396412
why is learning through trial and error such a mind bending concept to retards. its basic common sense ffs. only way a ss program can even fail if it is cancelled which sure as shit is not going to happen anytime soon

[Anonymous No.15396447]

>>15396442
>he doubts the Hussite wars
See? my point stands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussite_Wars

[Anonymous No.15396448]

>>15396440
case in point: >>15396433
>this statistic about the general population isn't true because [single anecdote of person for whom it isn't true]
This kind of retardation is very common in their generation. I blame school teachers, who have taught them that single exceptions are enough to disprove general trends in the general population (e.g. "Look, a black doctor! He's very smart, which disproves scientific racism.")

[Anonymous No.15396450]

>>15396447
You've compared a very famous thing to a virtually unknown thing, and then asserted that skepticism of the two things is equivalent. That is moronic.

[Anonymous No.15396451]

>>15396436
Nigger I mean that 0.1% of all my zoomer friends I’ve ever met and talked with are moon landing skeptical. You know that’s what I was saying but you advertise your dumb fucking skewed study here because YOU are a moon landing denier. YOU should kill yourself. (You) must go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.15396454]

>>15396425
Total shuttle death

[Anonymous No.15396455]

>>15396445
You are now reminded of Vimanas.

[Anonymous No.15396456]

https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1651186445153959937

[Anonymous No.15396457]

>>15396446
Growth mindset vs. fixed mindset

[Anonymous No.15396458]

>>15396425
i wonder what the cope is going to be when the first pics arrive of the revisiting crews making trips to one of the old apollo sights

>cgi!
lmao. There is no kubrick around too this time to conveniently frame him as the original nutter who came up with the theory saw 2001 a space odyssey and made up the story about apollo landings being also filmed by him

[Anonymous No.15396461]

>>15396456
Expected

[Anonymous No.15396462]

>>15396455
DO NOT REDEEM SIRS

[Anonymous No.15396463]

>>15396451
>my personal friend group disproves a general population statistic
Laughable. All the men I'm friends with have never committed murders, yet most murderers are men. There's no contradiction here.

[Anonymous No.15396466]

>>15396458
actually yes. With AI generated everything nowadays, it's super easy for people to brush off anything (politician speeches, disasters, events, whatever) as 'AI'.

[Anonymous No.15396467]

> muttposters in the fight of their lives to deny obvious societal entropy
we love to see it!

[Anonymous No.15396469]

>>15396458
>revisiting crews making trips to one of the old apollo sights
not going to happen in many years.

[Anonymous No.15396470]

>>15396456
He’s so much better than dickless dimi, it’s night and day. Russians appear to only produce three people
>quiet, efficient bureaucrats
>retarded, chest beating thugs
>somber, depressed intellectuals

[Anonymous No.15396471]

>>15396458
Kubrick may have had some based takes but I never heard anything as ridiculous as claiming he was the one who started the moon landing myth about himself.

[Anonymous No.15396472]

>>15396467
not like other countries are doing better. Pretty sure Koreans still think fans will kill them at night

>>15396469
yeah keep that shit intact

[Anonymous No.15396473]

>>15396462
We truly wuz

[Anonymous No.15396474]

>>15396425
What if we put the deniers in camps
To work on rockets

[Anonymous No.15396475]

>>15396472
>fans at night
you're obese

[Anonymous No.15396478]

>>15396474
>having untrained, unmotivated labor work on rockets
that sure worked well the first time

[Anonymous No.15396479]

>>15396475
what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

anyways, spaceflight anyone

[Anonymous No.15396485]

>>15396479

[Anonymous No.15396486]

>>15396478
They can be used as ablative heat shielding for the ground systems. I never understood the reusable slave meme anyway

[Anonymous No.15396488]

>>15396478
It did work well.
They figured out how to mass produce rockets in the thousand in a time when nobody else even had one.

[Anonymous No.15396489]

>>15396485
it's SPACEFLIGHT not SPACE FLIGHT how many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man

[Anonymous No.15396491]

>>15396489
I didn’t make it, you correct it if it’s so wrong

[Anonymous No.15396492]

>>15396488
The slaves didn't figure out shit, all they did was die in launch accidents and justifiably commit countless acts of sabotage.

[Anonymous No.15396494]

ScrubX

[Anonymous No.15396495]

>>15396478
Well yes, but the deniers would still be in camps.
And we could sell the rocket parts to Iran or Astra.
They wouldn't really notice the difference, their rockets explode all the time.

[Anonymous No.15396496]

>>15396491
FINE

[Anonymous No.15396501]

OFT-1 really mindbroke /sfg/

Sad stuff

[Anonymous No.15396502]

>>15396496
Saved

[Anonymous No.15396504]

[Anonymous No.15396505]

>>15396501
Nope, OFT-2 is going to be a resounding success, and so was OFT-1. No trenches, the parts to construct the steel plates are already on site, they got the valuable data they needed, every small kink will be ironed out next launch. The rocket even dug the space for the steel plate for them!

[Anonymous No.15396507]

https://streamable.com/ms1yj4
26mb

>>>/wsg/5066080
6mb

[Anonymous No.15396508]

>>15396412
There's good reason to think starship failed because the shattered launch pad debris struck the engines, and the hydraulics broke. They failed early in flight. The ones that worked endured the flight before they lost control.

Also saturn v is based on the rockets that came before it, and those were trial and error. I don't know how "new" it was but starship and it's integration with the launch pad is nothing like falcon 9. And the launch itself worked despite the destruction

[Anonymous No.15396510]

>>15396504
Kek, Yurop is a third world continent

[Anonymous No.15396511]

>Noticing all the rocket trannies on spitter throwing tantrums about Starship IFT lately

[Anonymous No.15396512]

>>15396507
kestrel was based

[Anonymous No.15396516]

>>15396504
>>15396510
yeah

[Anonymous No.15396517]

shitty news site but gets the point across. https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-space-program-in-decline-china-leaping-forward-us-intel-2023-4
didn't realize those leaks had space stuff in em

[Anonymous No.15396521]

>>15396517
> One document seemed to point to Elon Musk's SpaceX as a factor, noting that a US company was now certified to transport astronauts to the International Space Station, something Russia had previously charged between $75 million and $85 million an astronaut to do.

>The documents added that Russia's space program has been in decline since at least 2020.

> While Russia's space program is suffering, China's is booming, the documents said.

>China has recently built its own station and NASA warned that it wants to claim resource-rich parts of the moon.

[Anonymous No.15396525]

>>15396521
the mentioned article
https://archive.is/20230426102619/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/25/space-warfare-leaked-documents/

> Speaking last week at the Space Symposium conference in Colorado Springs, Space Force Gen. Chance Saltzman, the chief of space operations, said the Pentagon is “seeing an incredibly sophisticated array of threats” that includes jamming of communications and GPS satellites, spacecraft that can grapple other satellites, lasers that can dazzle them, cyberattacks and even “nesting dolls,” or satellites that release others that spread out and track adversaries’ spacecraft.

> Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall said during the conference that China “has doubled the number of their satellites just since the Space Force was established.” It now has more than 700 in operation with about 250 used for ISR, or intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance.

> Both China and Russia have the ability to destroy satellites in orbit with missiles. China did so in 2007, while in 2021, Russia destroyed a dead satellite with a missile, creating a massive field of debris and drawing condemnation from the United States and international community. The Post previously reported that leaked documents showed Russia has also experimented with its Tobol electronic warfare system in an attempt to disrupt SpaceX’s Starlink satellite system, which has kept Ukrainians connected throughout the conflict with Russia.

> As part of a military strike on Taiwan, China would probably jam communications and intelligence satellites that can see through clouds, “degrade or destroy space ground networks” and “destroy ballistic missile early warning satellites,” the document says.

> “Russian companies attempted to create space-rated components for select satellites,” the document asserts. “But the low quality of the components led to on-orbit malfunctions.” It did not identify specific failings.
lmao

[Anonymous No.15396527]

>>15396521
China has also doubled its number of satellites, to over 700, since 2019, Chief of Space Operations Gen. Chance Saltzman said during a news conference last week, with more than a third used for intelligence, reconnaissance and surveillance.

The leaked US documents suggest that China would use those satellites in a conflict with Taiwan, the self-governing island that China considers part of its own territory.

This would include China using its satellites to jam other communications and intelligence satellites, and to "destroy ballistic missile early warning satellites," the documents said.

[Anonymous No.15396529]

>>15396425
I tried to tell you /sfg/ remember? general IQ is falling like a rock.
>>15396448
It's not due to poor teaching, it's schooling agnostic because it's happening In Europe as well.

[Anonymous No.15396531]

is it time again for some brilliant pebbles to counter the Han problem

[Anonymous No.15396532]

>>15396511
cute girl

[Anonymous No.15396535]

>>15396531
I always figured Kuiper/Starlink could be used as brilliant pebbles, theres like what, tens of thousands of satellites planned

[Anonymous No.15396537]

>>15396535
I do suspect StarShield will be more spooky than they're letting on

[Anonymous No.15396541]

>>15396529
> I tried to tell you /sfg/ remember? general IQ is falling like a rock.
massive amounts of immigration from third world countries into europe is a big reason
the immigrants that are from third world countries also procreate at a much higher rate than the original population
its a massive problem, it might slow down at some point so that western countries aren't completely overrun, but whatever happens I hope the self-sustainable mars colony is established before that

China is also experiencing a massive decline in population, they might not have a similar problem with a rapidly increasing dysgenic sub-population but a decreasing population by itself is a big problem as well

[Anonymous No.15396550]

>>15396391
We don't need accoustic efficiency, we need shit that doesn't turn into a cluster bomb at throttle up.

[Anonymous No.15396551]

>>15396541
It's much much worse than that, IQ is declining even in relatively low immigration countries like Iceland. Not only are subhumans bringing the average down, but western civilization is also functionally dysgenic: even among whites and asians, the idiotic are reproducing a lot more than the intelligent, and this has been going on for decades now.
But everyone just ignores it, because it's inconvenient.
If we don't get off this planet soon, we won't be leaving for a long, long time.

[Anonymous No.15396553]

>>15396550
Well yeah then a wet, thicc steel plate should do it

[Anonymous No.15396558]

Sexy

[Anonymous No.15396565]

>>15396525
So is maybe you know, the old farts in congress finally going to start throwing money down the black hole of human space progression so America can win again or whatever?

[Anonymous No.15396567]

>>15396558
they need to figure out a lifting system that doesn't involve those hard points. It annoys my minimalist autism

[Anonymous No.15396568]

>>15396565
The fucking Reds forcing NASA to FY2022 funding levels will seal the end of US space dominance

[Anonymous No.15396569]

>>15396317
Nobody ever answered this

[Anonymous No.15396572]

>>15396551
>but western civilization is also functionally dysgenic:
That's mainly due to chemicals lowering T levels and of course tranny killing the valuable autists
>even among whites and asians, the idiotic are reproducing a lot more than the intelligent,
Even most of my hick friends still only have maybe one kid so all the blame can't be put on the low IQ being the main reproducers

[Anonymous No.15396573]

>>15396317
Yes.

The experiment is now over, thank you for your participation in data collection and social engineering.

Goodbye.

[Anonymous No.15396574]

>>15396568
Welp, I guess I will go beg my own congress for some of that sweet sweet funding we got laying around in those coffins, make a hybrid jet-ram-jet-rocket plane or something, what could go wrong?

[Anonymous No.15396581]

>>15396567
The ones at the nose or the ones under the flaps. I don't see another way you could replace the flap hard points

[Anonymous No.15396587]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3JTafTEDv0

[Anonymous No.15396590]

>>15396587
what a sad cunt he is

[Anonymous No.15396591]

>>15396587
Thunderstruck proceeds to show 27 minutes of late night show hosts that we love so much confirming that his views are indeed correct and current

[Anonymous No.15396593]

>>15396587
Actually makes some great points

[Anonymous No.15396595]

>>15396126
It's so fucking stupid that Twitter still has a brief character limit

Fix it Elon, "master of coding"

[Anonymous No.15396602]

>>15396595
twitter has 10000 char limit now for subscribers

[Anonymous No.15396603]

>>15396279
> oh cool a hab startup
> solar panels on all sides
what is this retardation, is it meant to be spinning? at the size they're building you can't put it into a spin

[Anonymous No.15396605]

I have never watched a CSS video
I am superior to you

[Anonymous No.15396607]

>>15396605
I have watched like three minutes into a few, and some clips from one - it got too hard watching after a little while

[Anonymous No.15396609]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fmZ_Dt56o

What's the best space youtube channel and why is this one

[Anonymous No.15396610]

>>15396603
>you can't put it into a spin

[Anonymous No.15396611]

>>15396603
Too much KSP

[Anonymous No.15396619]

>>15396603
>NASA CLD providers struggling to find use case besides NASA use
>these randos going full production in "if you build it they will come" attitude

lol

[Anonymous No.15396623]

>>15396605
I have also never watched any.

[Anonymous No.15396625]

I don't even post in this thread

[Anonymous No.15396630]

>>15396625
I don’t even post on earth

[Anonymous No.15396632]

I like how basically every other space companies future either reilies on starship failing of succeeding

[Anonymous No.15396633]

>>15396587
This guy is INSUFFERABLE to listen to

[Anonymous No.15396635]

>>15396587
I cant believe I actually watched this
>Clapping after explosion is weird and the late night show people agrees with me
>Its weird that they failed to succeed on first launch because they literary succeeded first launch in the 1950s with Saturn V so How come they havent figured it out yet
>SpaceX is bankrupt now because leaked internal memo said so
>Starlink is doing really poorly because two websites gave it a 3.5 star review and they werent awarded the 1 billion dollar contract for fixing rural internet connectivity
>Ellie is a mask fangirl and her interview with Elon proved her wrong about Elon and showed how stupid he really is (I dont fucking know where he was going with this one)
>Elon is a huge fraud which everyone knows these days, (here he shows a collage of all his previous videos debunking elon)
>Falcon 9 reusability is now a decade old tech and they cant even master it for the starship launch
>Cost of reuse is too high for it to actually mean anything (he is still saying that the price of launches = cost to make rockets.. for some reason)
>Falcon 9 acording to SpaceX doesnt count as a reusable rocket (taken from old showcase by the CEO Gwyneth), and the refurbishment time is too long
>Self driving cars doesnt work yet
>The Raptor 2 engines arent good engines
>The unbreakable glass on the cybertruck breaks during showcase
>Estimated cost of starship explosion to be 1/3 billion dollar minimum in engines alone
>He mentioned how Elon compared Starship to N1 a few times throughout, saying that N1 is insane to compare oneself against because it was a failed soviet launch veichle
>Shows the NSF car being destroyed by concrete, asks what insurance claim is on the car (I presume thats a joke)
>He thinks it will take 10-20 months to repair the launch site and launch a new rocket
>It took 12 months to get launch approval which was longer than Elon claimed
Not finished, give me a second to write up the rest.

[Anonymous No.15396636]

>>15396633
Double dubs of truth

[Anonymous No.15396638]

>>15396417

why's there a hexagonal hole in the middle

[Anonymous No.15396640]

>>15396632
it's the railroad of the future. Its payload bay is like a rail gauge.

[Anonymous No.15396641]

>>15396638
Picrel is why. Also I recognize that spacing from link to text, signature use is off limits btw

[Anonymous No.15396642]

>>15396635
>Musk doesnt have a bank account with a hundred billion dollars in it so the company can go bankrupt
>Shows Elizabeth Holmes the scam artist (whos going to jail) and compares her to Elon
>Brings up hyperloop
>SpaceX I was skeptical about... but when I heard they claimed they would fly rockets like planes.. yeah thats when I knew it was bullshit...
>Shows video stastics from BFR-earth to earth busted having 30% approval in 2017 and 100% approval in 2022
>Says hes not making Elon musk videos for the clicks because if he was he would be supporting musk
I probably missed a lot, and he repeated himself throughout the video quite a bit

[Anonymous No.15396643]

>>15396635
I'm not even going to read this anon, as it's equivalent to me watching the video. Thank you for distilling it for other anons though.

>>15396638
Hexagons are the BESTagons :DDDDD!!!!

[Anonymous No.15396646]

>>15396635
>>Estimated cost of starship explosion to be 1/3 billion dollar minimum in engines alone
Aren't the engines meant to be a few hundred grand at most?

[Anonymous No.15396648]

>>15396646
The per-engine cost dropped below $250,000 over a year ago.

[Anonymous No.15396649]

>>15396646
He got his numbers by estimating them through a twitter conversation between a fan and Elon, where Elon said it was more expensive than Merlin. The fan gave an estimate and asked if it was correct, so it looked like Elon agreed with the estimate but he didnt actually specify that he was agreeing to the estimate itself

[Anonymous No.15396650]

>>15396648
mfw https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/nasa-will-pay-a-staggering-146-million-for-each-sls-rocket-engine/

[Anonymous No.15396652]

>>15396646
I wonder where he got that figure
did he just assumed it costs the same as RS-25?

[Anonymous No.15396653]

>>15396650
>SpaceX literally makes 1 engine every day

[Anonymous No.15396654]

>>15396572
If that were the case, then we would see an S curve in IQ as intelligence is selected for despite the poison. This isn't what is observed. The convenience of modern life makes it easy and simple to survive and thrive as a low IQ subhuman, and the state will bend over backwards to support you despite yourself. Welfare was a mistake: The young decrease because we take from the young and give to the old, the intelligent and successful decrease because we take from them and give to idiot wretches.

[Anonymous No.15396656]

>>15396654
IQ is a meme
t. 145 iq

[Anonymous No.15396658]

>>15396650
That’s literally enough money for 14 Starships worth of engines. It is OVER for NASAcels

[Anonymous No.15396660]

>>15396658
ah yes but you see, 13 of those starships will explode so it works out.
t. someone probably

[Anonymous No.15396661]

>>15396635
Thank you for suffering through it
>>Falcon 9 reusability is now a decade old tech and they cant even master it for the starship launch
Thundercuck truly is a master of goal post moving

[Anonymous No.15396662]

>>15396603
> solar panels are cheap and robust
> 'why don't we clad our station in them instead of using the ISS type trusses?'
> /sfg/ moron - 'idgi'

[Anonymous No.15396664]

>>15396660
Even then the starship would still carry more payload....

[Anonymous No.15396667]

>>15396643
>>15396661
Thanks, appriciate the (yous) I get for this work, I will use it as gratitude points in the reward shop when I go to hell

[Anonymous No.15396671]

>>15396661
Stop giving attention to literal whos you are giving him everything he wants by hate watching his videos. You comment on them and boost it in the algorithm. Dislikes mean nothing anymore. You are spreading his videos to others to hate watch by posting about them. Shut the fuck up about these nobodies

[Anonymous No.15396672]

>>15396662
>solar freakin' hab walls
>ISS type trusses
That shit is outdated the new hotness is roll out solar panels which are so much simpler to use than covering a whole hab with them and you'd probably need more power than the wall panels would provide anyway.

[Anonymous No.15396679]

>>15396656
True. But it's the best we have.

[Anonymous No.15396681]

>>15396667
You could have just used whisper on the video then fed into gpt4

[Anonymous No.15396682]

>>15396635
You are a saint, and a masochist. Phil Mason seems to be purposefully acting retarded and manufacturing outrage for his audience lol

[Anonymous No.15396686]

>>15396681
I am not that tech savy

[Anonymous No.15396690]

>>15396686
Also what if Phil uses some hidden vodoo Prompt injection and fucks me over huh? Makes the GPT blow up the heat exchanger?

[Anonymous No.15396691]

>>15396641
>Also I recognize that spacing from link to text, signature use is off limits btw
what?

[Anonymous No.15396694]

>>15396672
The hab wall panels double up as Whipple shields and if they don't get you enough power just add a module with roll outs. But your barebones hab will be starting out with *some* power and that's a plus.

[Anonymous No.15396699]

>>15396587
>spacex is circling the drain
kek

[Anonymous No.15396700]

>>15396587
this is so fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.15396703]

>>15396681
>whisper
Is this shit frre? I think youtube transcriptions are downloadable regardless https://youtubetranscript.com/?v=F3JTafTEDv0

[Anonymous No.15396725]

[Anonymous No.15396728]

>>15396635
>>Falcon 9 reusability is now a decade old tech and they cant even master it for the starship launch
Christ.

[Anonymous No.15396745]

its over for real this time. spacex has been utterly debooonked

[Anonymous No.15396754]

>>15396635
>>15396642
So what do you call these people? Aside from suffering from an extreme and acute form of Musk Derangement Syndrome

Cope and Seethe? Loser syndrome?

[Anonymous No.15396770]

>>15396725
Wut

[Anonymous No.15396771]

>>15396728
Different rockets, different problems

[Anonymous No.15396773]

>>15396771
I think you misunderstood my post.

[Anonymous No.15396774]

>>15396773
oh yeah now I see it, the goalpost lol I was like wtf is that space crane

[Anonymous No.15396777]

>>15396603
>>15396611
>>15396672
You people are retarded. The panels cover most of the module so they don't have to do any tracking and it's a failsafe supply of electricity. Solar panels that aren't produced by old space would cost next to nothing and this saves them from needing to build a separate structure to house and support them which is most of the mass of a ROSA as the thin-film PV itself is incredibly light. It's particularly good if the modules are designed like the Axiom Orbital Segment where they all can operate independently of each other until they are assembled and thus they would each need their own power source.

[Anonymous No.15396778]

Under the sea,
Under the sea,
There'll be no detonations,
No astronaut cremations,
Under the sea!

[Anonymous No.15396781]

>>15396770
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/2556/1

[Anonymous No.15396782]

>>15396778
Under the sea? You should be more concerned about what's happening on the surface.

[Anonymous No.15396786]

You all make fun of shuttle; but showing up to the russian jankstation in this thing for the first time must have felt pretty cool

[Anonymous No.15396789]

>>15396786
buran was a better design

[Anonymous No.15396790]

>>15396635
>The Raptor 2 engines arent good engines
he got that one right. We'll be by version 6 by the time they are reliable enough

[Anonymous No.15396791]

>CSS is making a IFT video

oh this will be good

[Anonymous No.15396794]

How many launches until the OLM legs are rusted through?

[Anonymous No.15396795]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k-7QvQY7MA

[Anonymous No.15396797]

>>15396795
Was just gonna post. Its a great little vid

[Anonymous No.15396799]

>>15396795
>muh rocket building
spacex needs to start working on their launchpad building

[Anonymous No.15396800]

>>15396795
at least this kid doesnt have a surface made up of acne and a screechy chalk voice, they really have come further havent they
This guy could benefit from going outdoors more

[Anonymous No.15396803]

>RS-25's doing a gimbal
>noone ITT even linked to it

/sfg/ - /spacex flight general/

[Anonymous No.15396805]

>>15396803
>Gimbal test
>For an engine from the 70s
Who fucking cares.

[Anonymous No.15396807]

>>15396803
How about you link it then?

[Anonymous No.15396811]

>>15396795
They reduced multiple welding units to just 1 automated welding unit. This is a great process arch.

[Anonymous No.15396813]

>>15396803
Raptor does gimbal tests every week or so. Its practically meaningless even though there have been multiple changes to gimbling mechanism in rapid innovations.

[Anonymous No.15396817]

>>15396803
>having to test an engine older than anyone in /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15396818]

>>15396817
Well, I was alive for its first flight, not that I recall much from that time, but its design and heritage stretches way past my ancientfag ass.

[Anonymous No.15396820]

>>15396789
I don’t disagree

[Anonymous No.15396821]

>>15396817
Oh comon anon, its only 63 at its oldest
On another note, my back is hurting

[Anonymous No.15396822]

>There was never a Buran and Shuttle docked to the same station
Why even live? Will we see the day where Starship is docked with some Starship clone?

[Anonymous No.15396829]

we finna dab on some boomers itt, fr fr no cap

t. millennial

[Anonymous No.15396830]

https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1651278063567618062

[Anonymous No.15396832]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgxd4phK8eY

new video

[Anonymous No.15396833]

>>15396794
10000. it's surface rust

[Anonymous No.15396834]

>>15396587
If you think that video was retarded, you should read the comment section lmao

[Anonymous No.15396837]

>>15396834
Thunderf00t thinks the reason his approval is climbing is because everyone in the whole world is starting to hate Elon and all agree with thunderf00t, meanwhile you read his comment section and you start wondering where everything went wrong

[Anonymous No.15396847]

>>15396822
Starship will be docked to other Starships

[Anonymous No.15396848]

>>15396822
2030 if chinese goes through with their cloning potentially

[Anonymous No.15396862]

quantum space is one of the few legit startups

>Steve Jurczyk, president and chief executive of Quantum Space, said in an interview the company was seeing greater interest in Ranger. “We somewhat accelerated the development plans for Ranger,” he said in an interview, with a first flight now planned earlier in 2025.
>Ranger is designed to place more than 1.5 metric tons into GEO and more than 2.5 metric tons into cislunar space, and features four ports for attaching spacecraft weighing up to 500 kilograms each.
https://spacenews.com/quantum-space-moves-up-development-of-ranger-transfer-vehicle/

its a shame nobody gives a shit about them

[Anonymous No.15396864]

>>15396832
didn't see anything not discussed here already?
I did only skim it though

[Anonymous No.15396866]

>>15396862
its a very dumb name for a startup

[Anonymous No.15396869]

>>15396866
here's another dumb company name: space exploration

[Anonymous No.15396870]

>>15396862
the guy who gave us Starship HLS?

[Anonymous No.15396873]

>>15396862
so its basically a GEO and cislunar space tug, there are a number of companies in that sector
there is basically no info about what kind of vehicle it is, other than the payload they can move and what mass
there is basically nothing to discuss
how do you want people to care about it exactly?
do they even have hardware?
https://quantumspace.us/fleet

[Anonymous No.15396875]

>US Fish and Wildlife has made its assessment on the impacts of SpaceX's Starship launch:
>- 3.5-acre fire started south of the pad
>- 385 acres of debris on SpaceX land and Boca Chica State Park
>- concrete chunks and other objects hurled thousands of feet
>- no debris documented on refuge fee-owned lands
>- no dead birds or wildlife reported

[Anonymous No.15396876]

>>15396830
It's over.

[Anonymous No.15396877]

>>15396869
its Space Exploration Technologies Corporation fag, also its much more apt
quantum space is retarded and has nothing to do with what the company is trying to do
just anything to do with "quantum" is retarded as it will just draw in cranks

[Anonymous No.15396880]

>>15396875
I bet there was millions of beetles that we just cant ever get to see because SpaceX shut down all access and sent in the beetle genocide agents during closing

[Anonymous No.15396889]

>>15396205
The Shuttle reentered at Mach 25. Falcon 9's first stage reenters at Mach 6, as will Super Heavy. It's a big difference. It also means your upper stage can be a pure cylindrical vacuum vehicle with simpler uniform tiles (like Starship) or an inflatable heatshield tucked away rather than needing the Shuttle's monstrous jigsaw puzzle TPS.

[Anonymous No.15396891]

>>15396875
nothingburger

[Anonymous No.15396893]

>>15396889
What does Starship re-enter at (in LEO)

[Anonymous No.15396894]

>>15396875
TOTAL BIRDS AND WILDLIFE DEATH

[Anonymous No.15396895]

>>15396891
Unironically, yes.

[Anonymous No.15396896]

>>15396895
no ammo for the obstructionists/environmentalists is good

[Anonymous No.15396898]

>>15396893
Depends on payload, but suppose its an orbital payload, then it would re-enter at orbital speed. Thats ~Mach 25

[Anonymous No.15396901]

>>15396893
Starship is intended to aerocapture/brake directly from interplanetary transfer speeds so up to like 15km/s relative velocity. The tiles are much stronger thermally, if they can figure out how to stop them from falling off.

[Anonymous No.15396904]

>>15396862
>chemical
>GEO
Probably DOA. These companies must think SpaceX will allow their hypergolic tug or whatever the fuck on rideshare launches even after what happened with SHERPA or that dedicated launches will be profitable because their customers will wait over a year for a launch but not a few months to transfer from GTO with EP

[Anonymous No.15396906]

>>15396873
its a little more involved than that. they're serviceable platforms, so they can host payloads as well as be serviced and refueled, but their primary mission is to provide lunar data services like satnav and satcomms. their multirole nature puts them ahead of other commercial cislunar ambitions.

[Anonymous No.15396923]

What ablative paint is best for superheavy launchpads?

[Anonymous No.15396925]

>>15396866
Someone should start one and call it MegaSpace, specializing in stupid-big shit.

[Anonymous No.15396930]

>>15396923
endangered beetles

[Anonymous No.15396945]

ITS OVER!!! CARMACK IS THINKING ABOUT SPACE AGAIN!

[Anonymous No.15396950]

>>15396945
armadillo v2

[Anonymous No.15396958]

did they clean up the launch site already?

[Anonymous No.15396960]

>Carmack and Musk have been friends over a decade
>Elon has openly asked John to come work at SpaceX, John has been happy to consult for Oculus and work on AI in his own time.

>Imagine Elon Musk, asking you to work for him at SpaceX
>And turning him down, multiple times.

[Anonymous No.15396963]

>>15396960
He doesn't want to sacrifice his soul to musk.

[Anonymous No.15396964]

>>15396786
Looking (relatively) cool was the sole good feature of the Space Shittle

[Anonymous No.15396965]

Maiaspace claims to have made a full-scale prototype of their launcher and are about to do cryo-tests

Interesting, Prometheus is likely not anywhere near flight-ready.

[Anonymous No.15396967]

>>15396904
I mean non-toxic bipropellant is a thing but I don't know if it has the performance for this and it has so far been limited to cuck tugs with very little delta-v. They're also competing against direct to GEO launches, Starship would need refueling for this but it's plausible

[Anonymous No.15396968]

>>15396967
storable*

[Anonymous No.15396973]

>>15396646
Unit cost is a rather uninteresting metric to look at until you've reach the final level of mass production and thus attain all the benefits of economies of scale

[Anonymous No.15396976]

[Anonymous No.15396983]

How can attitude jets/RCS thrusters be improved? Is it hypergolics for ever or is there anything better?

[Anonymous No.15396990]

>>15396412
Yes. The launch is the easy part. The only problems are dealing with the plumes from the engines and eventually reuse of the rocket.

[Anonymous No.15396992]

>>15396983
ion throosters

[Anonymous No.15396993]

>>15396992
too puny

[Anonymous No.15396994]

>>15396317
>>15396569
Because its a bullshit question by the seething anime poster. A bunch of people hate that poster because just like last night, he will completely ruin a thread if anyone speaks against him. But he will try to play it off as a single enemy so he doesn't seem so hated. The guy is literally mentally ill. Just refrain from engaging with him

[Anonymous No.15397015]

Bros ... w...wh...what is that ??

*BlueOrigin pic

[Anonymous No.15397020]

GWAN SI

[Anonymous No.15397022]

>>15397015
Holy Shit, they actually did something???

[Anonymous No.15397023]

>>15396983
There are control moment gyroscopes, they don't use any propellant but they build up angular momentum and need to be desaturated. I wager they could be paired with electric propulsion without any RCS but not sure if anyone has done it. I think most the delta-v required for station keeping is used for altitude and not attitude so just a single ion thruster could go a long way.
>>15396993
Not really unless you're trying to use them to control a chemical rocket which would be dumb. Most space stations will probably have an RCS system as a backup so it doesn't get taken to spin city by an out of control spacecraft

[Anonymous No.15397029]

>>15396983
What would a 4 solid booster SLS be capable of?

[Anonymous No.15397030]

>>15397015
Hot damn it looks like they are only a year and a half behind spacex. They sure did catch up quick

[Anonymous No.15397037]

Russia didn't get enough shit for Nauka

[Anonymous No.15397038]

>>15397015
That must be the second stage ? right ? It is reusable ?

[Anonymous No.15397047]

>no dead birds or wildlife reported
How could we fail so badly muskbros

[Anonymous No.15397065]

>>15396960
Not enough room on Starbase for both egos.

[Anonymous No.15397067]

>>15397047
>Mission failed we'll get 'em next time

Also notice FWS didn't report any during the 31 engine SF when all the FUD'ers were sooo certain they were harmed lmao

[Anonymous No.15397068]

>>15397015
New Glenn is going to work perfectly on its maiden flight and I’m going to have to kneel

[Anonymous No.15397079]

The Milky Way is so alien, just about everything visible to the human eye can be conveniently explained but that

[Anonymous No.15397080]

>>15397047
evacuation notices were served to the birbs

[Anonymous No.15397083]

>>15397047
I've received confirmation that a large bucket of Ocelots was placed at ground-zero (the middle of the OLM)

[Anonymous No.15397086]

plover status

[Anonymous No.15397091]

OH N-

[Anonymous No.15397094]

>>15397083
I bet you could get rid of a body real quick with starship

[Anonymous No.15397098]

>>15397091
>ETA 4.5 billion years
Nothingburger. Although it would be fun living around a rogue star, preferrably with a Shkadov Thruster by then.

[Anonymous No.15397099]

>>15397091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwW_5kialI

[Anonymous No.15397109]

>>15396795
Oh dear god what is THAT?

[Anonymous No.15397110]

>>15397015
Copy-paste everything SpaceX/Tesla/Starlink does - Bezos enterprise.

Grifting knows no shame

[Anonymous No.15397114]

>>15397091
this and the heat death is having me worried bros

[Anonymous No.15397117]

>>15397114
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum_decay

[Anonymous No.15397122]

Gonna go take a second lunch break, you guys mind watching this for a second?

[Anonymous No.15397139]

>>15397117
some of these things physicists theorise lovecraftian

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Cosmic_strings

[Anonymous No.15397141]

>>15397110
If they are quick they can patent chopsticks too!

[Anonymous No.15397145]

>>15397109
Some anons thought the phenotype was Eastern European. I'm not so sure. It certainly is some manner of creature, although those dark, soulless eyes are very disturbing. I doubt it experiences an inner monologue.

[Anonymous No.15397152]

>>15397139
Its more the other way around; HPL was an astronomy buff and his fiction was influenced by discoveries on how old, big and violent the universe was turning out to be

[Anonymous No.15397154]

>>15397145
That is definitely Eastern Euro.

[Anonymous No.15397162]

>>15397109
His face and mannerism is genuinely disturbing to me. I'm trying to pin down what exactly it is.

[Anonymous No.15397165]

>>15397080
eggs were given tiny hard hats

[Anonymous No.15397171]

O'Neil cylinders are better in the long term, because fuck gravity wells. But we need some stepping stones first and Mars is the best place for a base.

[Anonymous No.15397174]

>>15397171
advanced cope

[Anonymous No.15397176]

how do you crack an egg for an omelet in 0 g

[Anonymous No.15397180]

>>15397174
Without highly advanced genetic engineering or the ability to manipulate gravity it is necessary.

[Anonymous No.15397202]

>>15397176
Split the shell in half, the yolk will stick inside one of the halves.
Orient the half with the yolk so the open face is towards the cooking apparatus.
Flick wrist.

[Anonymous No.15397226]

>>15396568
ugh yes those evil republicans >:(
im glad boe jiden is in charge. the news says hes good :)

[Anonymous No.15397243]

are WvB's books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.15397245]

>>15397226
China is laughing at us

[Anonymous No.15397260]

>>15397243
They are extremely math-intensive. At least the mars project is. If you’re an excel spreadsheet guy i’m sure it would make you coom. Otherwise I don’t think it’s worth it.
I still love WvB with all my heart though

[Anonymous No.15397261]

I AM THE SENATE

[Anonymous No.15397264]

>>15397245
They can laugh at the "backwards white barbarians" all they want. It won't make them any less irrelevant in space.

[Anonymous No.15397270]

>>15397261
https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1651348156989227008

meeting with Saudi Korea premier

[Anonymous No.15397271]

>>15397261
Teslas are good looking I guess, but my fuck look at that lexus. I fucking love toyota

[Anonymous No.15397273]

>>15397270
>Saudi Korea

[Anonymous No.15397275]

>>15397015
Haha cock n balls

[Anonymous No.15397280]

>>15397047
All were vaporized by the launch, no bodies to identify.

[Anonymous No.15397281]

>>15397273
well obviously not Nordic Korea

[Anonymous No.15397303]

>No dead birds or wildlife have yet been found on National Wildlife Refuge lands, which are very near the launch site and are home to endangered species, including the piping plover.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/26/spacex-starship-explosion-caused-3point5-acre-fire-us-fws-says-.html

[Anonymous No.15397305]

How do I age like this?

[Anonymous No.15397306]

MUH PIPING PLOVER

STOP ALL OF HUMAN SPACE ADVANCEMENT SO WE CAN ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PIPING PLOVERR AAAA

"CAAW I'M PLOOOVING "- PIPER PLOVER

[Anonymous No.15397307]

>>15397303
this reporter always tries to spin every article as negative as possible, real piece of work

[Anonymous No.15397311]

>>15397305
Hes jewish and obsessed with not dying. He probably bathes in the blood of children.

[Anonymous No.15397312]

[Anonymous No.15397316]

>>15397312
GOODBYE BOOSTERS

[Anonymous No.15397332]

>>15397316
gay boosters

[Anonymous No.15397356]

It could still work

[Anonymous No.15397373]

>>15397356
At this point it would be more work than getting Artemis 2 and Starship ready.

[Anonymous No.15397376]

>>15397311
Where to acquire child blood?

[Anonymous No.15397379]

[Anonymous No.15397381]

>>15397379
This changes everything

[Anonymous No.15397384]

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1LyxBqyPYlPJN/peek

Jared Issacman doing spaces live

[Anonymous No.15397387]

>>15397379
cumming

[Anonymous No.15397395]

>>15397379
Fuck SLS but this is sweeeeeet

[Anonymous No.15397397]

>>15397395
If the RS-25 engine pod was recoverable using something like SMART I would be much less angry about SLS.

[Anonymous No.15397402]

>>15397397
Nah it’s beyond saving. Maybe if it started life with a fixed-price contract it would be cool. What’s the point of being “shuttle derived” if you’re literally 93% brand new parts. At that point just design something cooler from scratch

[Anonymous No.15397403]

>>15397384
can't be bothered, what is he even up to these days?

[Anonymous No.15397406]

>>15397403
Sitting on cool pics of the SX EVA suit and Starship interior but refusing to share them

[Anonymous No.15397424]

>>15397403
New Crew launch in few months. Then paying attention to development of Starship for the first human on Starship mission.

[Anonymous No.15397442]

>>15397311
pig blood is the new thing
https://liveforever.club/blog/harold-katcher-s-e5-elixir-young-plasma-rat-trial-results

[Anonymous No.15397451]

>>15397406
there's a reason those pics arent public...

[Anonymous No.15397459]

[Anonymous No.15397469]

>>15397356
Not with that landing gear on the boosters its not

[Anonymous No.15397493]

>>15397459
Uranus

[Anonymous No.15397521]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/12yxvx6/spacex_starship_grounded_indefinitely_by_faa_the/
>SpaceX Starship Grounded Indefinitely By FAA - The spacecraft could be out of operation for months as the FAA investigates the cause of last week's launch explosion.
STARSHIP GROUNDED

[Anonymous No.15397523]

>>15397521
We warned you about Biden.

[Anonymous No.15397534]

Prof. Chang says no Mars mission without international cooperation

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ltnIOqm30&pp=ygUJY2d0biBtYXJz

Well that means waiting two more centuries for NASA's NTP (the Russian one could take like 800 years at their current pace).

[Anonymous No.15397547]

[Anonymous No.15397549]

>>15397534
spacex literally has everything they need or are actively working on them right now
you don't need a fancy life support system, just scale up dragon life support and bring spares
suits are being worked on
weld a fucking hab together from flat packed steel
the ship is obviously being worked on
you could unironically be the first to go to mars for sub 1 billion once starship is up and running

[Anonymous No.15397550]

>>15397521
Standard
But of course the grifter teams will run rampant

[Anonymous No.15397553]

reminder we're approximately 10 years away from the first person on mars, a feat nigh impossible for governments

[Anonymous No.15397558]

>>15397547
it's over

[Anonymous No.15397559]

Where can I buy a piping plover? They look cute.

[Anonymous No.15397561]

>>15397549
>weld a fucking hab together from flat packed steel
it's still insane to me that we've had half a century of orbital stations and 0 spin gravity experiments
we're drawing another fat interntational station that's supposed to orbit the moon for long term stays and even that's just an ISS 2 with no real advancement

[Anonymous No.15397562]

>CSI agrees with scot manlet about his FTS take

wtff

[Anonymous No.15397564]

>>15397561
anon what should really fucking make you seethe is the fact NASA REFUSES to do ANY weld testing, they have outright even refused to do it on the moon too

[Anonymous No.15397568]

>starship is so powerful that the fts didnt destroy it as planned even when it was tumbling at mach 2
it truly is the most powerful rocket ever

[Anonymous No.15397569]

>>15397379
>Why no it doesn't look at all like our rocket is wearing diapers. Why do you ask?

[Anonymous No.15397572]

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1651391642396393475/photo/1

[Anonymous No.15397578]

>>15397442
Interesting

[Anonymous No.15397579]

>>15397305
For me, it's 97-year-old Dick Van Dyke with his slampig wife

[Anonymous No.15397580]

>>15397569
>>15397379
why doesn't starship have diapers?
maybe it would have saved some raptors

[Anonymous No.15397581]

>>15397553
>10 years
Try 6

[Anonymous No.15397583]

>>15397569
>someone else sees it

kek

[Anonymous No.15397584]

>>15397559
SpaceX online store sells them.

[Anonymous No.15397589]

>>15397459
Was inspired to make this

[Anonymous No.15397590]

>>15397569
Isaac Arthur now loves SLS.

[Anonymous No.15397591]

>>15397590
kek

[Anonymous No.15397599]

Sometimes I forget how big rockets and their payloads are

[Anonymous No.15397600]

>>15397589
kek

[Anonymous No.15397601]

>>15397599

[Anonymous No.15397602]

>>15397599
was just looking at that post with the same realization lmao, also wish we could get video of this rollout from that same level/perspective

[Anonymous No.15397604]

>>15397601
Recent falcon heavy pics from the upcoming viasat mission

[Anonymous No.15397607]

kinda kino

[Anonymous No.15397609]

>>15397604
horizontal integration and a crawler on wheels?
a nasa jihad on this vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15397611]

>>15397578
It really is, I hope the guy doesn't die before he finishes his research

[Anonymous No.15397617]

>>15397609
And not one Alabama River Rock to be seen.

[Anonymous No.15397620]

Compromise: 45° angle integration

[Anonymous No.15397622]

>>15397564
What the fuck why???

[Anonymous No.15397624]

>>15397622
tools are too hard for astronauts
please understand

[Anonymous No.15397627]

>>15397590
If there's one thing in life I cannot understand apart from sonic inflation porn, it's diaper fetish, like wtf.

[Anonymous No.15397630]

>>15397627
Fags fuck each other in the ass too often and lose bowel control so diaper fetish is a proxy for that.

[Anonymous No.15397633]

>>15397622
spalling in space makes sense why they don't want to wed on the ISS or other stations
but the moon welding seems fine, guess they just don't want to design some cover to protect the suits

[Anonymous No.15397637]

>>15397564
>>15397622
>weld testing
That'll be one gorillion dollars, plus tip :^)

[Anonymous No.15397638]

>>15397547
What am I looking at here?

[Anonymous No.15397639]

>>15397638
Elon's tinkertoys.

[Anonymous No.15397641]

>>15397638

[Anonymous No.15397649]

>>15397641
No shit. Are they building a crane to lift the OLM or something?

[Anonymous No.15397655]

…


https://twitter.com/wrtchd_snt/status/1651383604637847555?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15397658]

>>15397655
Does that mean he's poz now?

[Anonymous No.15397672]

>>15397655
i remember that skin test as a kid, iirc he now needs a tb shot.

[Anonymous No.15397674]

>>15397655
That looks like ass. Should have paid more to get better circles.

[Anonymous No.15397676]

>>15397655
tattoos bad

[Anonymous No.15397689]

>>15397589
needs the xemujak

[Anonymous No.15397692]

>>15397655
Its way too big
Ita actually a good hidden message/handshake thing at least

[Anonymous No.15397694]

ahem

[Anonymous No.15397695]

>>15397694
Neat

[Anonymous No.15397699]

>>15397694
i want a tattoo of this

[Anonymous No.15397700]

Rogue planets are in vogue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMIiNY3Ie0c

[Anonymous No.15397707]

My solution to the Fermi paradox? Occam’s razor, if there is so much space but no aliens to detect, that means we are truly alone. Many refuse to acknowledge this but deep down you know it to be true. I’m not sure who the creator of our reality is, but there must be some purpose behind leaving us here alone. Maybe the meaning of life is to spread it to the entirety of the cosmos that he made for us rather than stay here dying and alone on our forsaken rock.

[Anonymous No.15397708]

>>15397699
On a scale of 1 to turbofaggot how many dicks have you sucked?

[Anonymous No.15397710]

>>15397699
The sōyence must flow, remember to meditate and think, what would Fauci do?

[Anonymous No.15397713]

wenhop?

[Anonymous No.15397717]

>>15397713
Sbarky? How you doin

[Anonymous No.15397719]

>>15397707
>Maybe the meaning of life is to spread it to the entirety of the cosmos
Or maybe there's no meaning at all. Or maybe the question about whether or not there is any meaning in this life doesn't make sense and it's pointless to wonder about it. Or maybe the meaning is so absurd and depressing that many would kill themselves if it were true, e.g. this entire universe being some random experiment in a lab by some other intelligent species, not even aware of our own existence, and about to turn the simulation off, nothing mattered in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15397724]

>>15397710
If I looked up sōy in the archive how many of your posts would I see? I see you use it every thread a couple times and with a shitty wojak

[Anonymous No.15397725]

>>15397655
It’s shit. If it was small and discreet it would be cringe but whatever. This is just ugly

[Anonymous No.15397726]

>>15397719
If there was no meaning set by the creator, then there was meaning set by our ancestors. The only commonality all living things ever have is that their final objective in living is to propagate their species further, and if that isn’t a meaning of life made by life, then meaning has no definition and none of this is real. But, from all observations in these billions of years, this is real so what other conclusion is there to come to? The meaning of life, whether by the creators hands or ours is to propagate our species further out in to the stars.

[Anonymous No.15397727]

>>15397384
Interesting, might listen and mention any main points later if I remeber it

[Anonymous No.15397729]

>>15397717
who

[Anonymous No.15397731]

>>15397724
You would see a couple of my posts, you post some stuff that you think is better then, semi interested

[Anonymous No.15397733]

>>15397729
The one who makes rocket girls on twitter (and also picrel)

[Anonymous No.15397735]

>>15397733
he does cool space force gunships girls too

[Anonymous No.15397738]

Dubs are barely ever acknowledged in this general because we make up 90% of all /sci/ posts. What digits do you think are noteworthy for /sfg/, trips, quads, quints?

[Anonymous No.15397739]

has anyone here read the case for nukes? qrd?

[Anonymous No.15397745]

well /sfg/ ya boy got fired without cause on two days notice, guess it's time to triple down on helicopter lessons and go start a helitaxi business in brownsville with the goal of eventually becoming daddy musk's personal chopper pilot

[Anonymous No.15397746]

>>15397271
It straight up looks like a soijack

[Anonymous No.15397747]

>>15397733
Anon that image was made on /sfg/ when SN5 made the first hop. It has nothing to do with twitter
Those who were there might have the second version of said image

[Anonymous No.15397749]

>>15397739
It's basically the nuclearfag position from /sfg/ flamewars written by a guy with a PhD in nuclear engineering, a personal hatred of Al Gore, and a classically Jewish refusal to admit that not all populations are net contributors to mankind's success, which makes him draw some nutty globalist conclusions at the end of the book.

[Anonymous No.15397750]

>>15397270
>Yoon Suk Yeol asked Elon to build a gigafactory in SK & said "should @Tesla decide to invest, we'll provide active support in terms of location, workforce & taxes"
He'd be crazy not to, regulations and bureaucratic nonsense vanish in SK for big businesses

[Anonymous No.15397756]

>>15397739
Nah I wanna read it but I’ve heard him discuss it. He’s makes interesting arguments in those discussions. I don’t 100% agree with him but I am also pro nuclear power (not necessarily in the sense of the /sfg/ nuclearfag v solarfag wars

[Anonymous No.15397758]

>>15397176
Ever see an egg cracking device? Needle goes in one end to relieve pressure, a pressure ring splits it in half

[Anonymous No.15397759]

>>15397747
I’ve been had

[Anonymous No.15397760]

>>15397746
Motherfucker, your brain is fried. Get some help. Touch a tree, or something. Damn.

[Anonymous No.15397762]

>>15397760
I’m the one that posts soijaks and even I didn’t see that, how buck broken can you get?

[Anonymous No.15397765]

>>15397759
use context clues

[Anonymous No.15397768]

>>15397750
Saying the government wants to subsidize you in South Korea is basically a polite way to say the chaebols want to bribe you to bring your tech into stealing range

Musk will likely take the offer, just like he did in China, because the end goal is more electric vehicles on the planet not a monopoly

[Anonymous No.15397774]

is the guy from twitter who made those awesome diagrams about what parts and which starships already exists still around? it was cool to see the progress i think he used to make a new one every month or so.

[Anonymous No.15397775]

>>15397774
ringwatchers does it, not sure how frequently

[Anonymous No.15397776]

https://youtu.be/L-ZvB1GSSNo
Triple threat : scottish "manly" , austin heere, and brendan frazier

[Anonymous No.15397779]

Musk getting rekt by Biden, kek.
Scammer will never get anything done.

[Anonymous No.15397782]

>>15397779
The FAA will arrest Musk soon snd nationalize SpaceX. FINALLY

[Anonymous No.15397793]

>>15397746
>>15397760
>>15397762
nta but he might be right

[Anonymous No.15397794]

The FAA will give Musk the medal of honor soon and give their entire budget to SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15397799]

>>15397774
>ringwatchers
https://twitter.com/RingWatchers/status/1648838574110916609

[Anonymous No.15397800]

>>15397384
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1651361009708281857

[Anonymous No.15397802]

>>15397782
lol, I remember when the idea of SpaceX being nationalized was only something I'd see on ironic shitposts here at esefgee and not something seriously parroted by the thousands all over social media. Good times...

[Anonymous No.15397825]

>>15397800
no thanks, not really into the whole spacex stan circle jerk hosted by literaly who twitter trannies podcast

[Anonymous No.15397848]

>watch new flash trailer
>start to wonder how superheroes would work in space colonies
>realize they wouldnt work very well because colonies are confined spaces and probably underground
colonies are going to need some spice

[Anonymous No.15397850]

We have to go, it is our god given right.

[Anonymous No.15397854]

>>15397848
ZOMG ITS JUST LIKE THE MOVIES!!

[Anonymous No.15397858]

If china gets reusable rockets we're fucked

[Anonymous No.15397862]

>>15397858
competition is good

[Anonymous No.15397865]

>>15397858
2040s is when they estimate they would have their Starship rip off ready for complete reuse, by then we will have long been on Mars. Not an issue and they will likely stick to the moon. Just get off Earth before they start launching ICBM, qualifications to be one of the 1m on the Mars colony are probably just “can you contribute something significant to the colony” which isn’t that hard when essentially every job is needed. You could probably be an expert Mexican welder and probably get there

[Anonymous No.15397867]

>>15397865
>safe from icbms
they'll eventually make interplanetary missiles if they have to

[Anonymous No.15397870]

>>15397862
They’re still not competition, they just barely started being able to rip off Falcon launches and are only on concept stage of Starship, even then they don’t plan to do full reuse for a LOOONG time like 2040s long. It will basically just be what Ship 26 and 27 are now.

[Anonymous No.15397871]

>>15397867
IPMs are not needed when bullets easily do the job by destroying a habs pressurization and killing everyone inside as well as any bullet to any part of a space suit also killing them. Atleast then you can raid settlements for EXTREMELY valuable assets, considering how much it costs to send stuff out and Mars launch windows.

[Anonymous No.15397876]

>>15397870
they will launch 3 expendable CZ9 per day. it doesnt matter to them

[Anonymous No.15397877]

Reminder that we have no protection against ANY form of combat in outer space and bullets work just fine in any atmosphere if not better

[Anonymous No.15397881]

>>15397877
sandbags work just as well in outerspace as they do on earth

[Anonymous No.15397886]

I want to build a pressurized done in my yard, maybe 5 atm

[Anonymous No.15397888]

>>15397881
Hold on let me just shoot a singular hole in your massive hab and ruin everything and everyone inside. Hold on let me toss a grenade that has shit tons of shrapnel that does even worse.

[Anonymous No.15397892]

>>15397888
Not very realistic scenario

[Anonymous No.15397896]

>>15397892
Oh so standard issue military weaponry given to astronauts isn’t a realistic scenario? Do you know how fast an EVA depressurizes with just a bullet sized hole, or how fast the ISS would completely depressurize with a hole the size of my hand?

[Anonymous No.15397898]

>>15397896
Guns/grenades dont work in space

[Anonymous No.15397899]

>>15397898
Are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.15397900]

>>15397898
More of your retardation.

[Anonymous No.15397901]

>>15397899
>can shoot
so do play caps. doesnt mean the bullet goes anywhere, just burns powder

[Anonymous No.15397902]

>>15397900
Good job, your gun blew apart and the space station is saved. your hand hurts too. what am I supposed to be afraid of again?

[Anonymous No.15397905]

>>15397901
I will give you the benefit of a doubt and assume this is one of those posts where you merely pretend to be retarded as a joke

[Anonymous No.15397907]

>>15397902
>Wumao ignores grenade, as well as anything outside of 0G
Revolving weapons btw, easy to design guns that work in this environment even though I was talking about any non-Earth environment
>>15397901
Pure cope, shut the fuck up if you have no idea what you’re talking about. >>15397905 this anon said it the best, but it’s clearly not a joke with how the rest of the convo went Chang.

[Anonymous No.15397909]

>>15397907
is this "womao" in the room with us right now? lmao

[Anonymous No.15397911]

Holy fuck Euro hours are so bad

[Anonymous No.15397912]

>>15397534
The Russian one is nuclear electric(also has solar panels), which is still pretty bad for a Mars mission but could conceivably have some use for an outer planet mission if they manage to build a high power reactor that can operate reliably for about a decade without any maintenance or refueling. I'm skeptical and I've read they switched from what would be an efficient turbine to a thermionic converter so expect it to be especially gimped if it ever launches.
>>15397749
Interesting, I'm pretty sure many of his arguments are some 40 years old at this point. I want someone to use his own move against him, challenge him to a debate and when he doesn't show up give a long talk debooking him, but really he isn't that relevant outside The Mars Society and Mars Direct which has been made obsolete because of Starship.

[Anonymous No.15397914]

mars... home... in 2500

[Anonymous No.15397917]

>>15397914
Try 2080

[Anonymous No.15397930]

>>15397825
seething

[Anonymous No.15397944]

>>15397930
Tranny

[Anonymous No.15397948]

>>15397655
Isn't this like a hazing thing where they put out cigarettes on your skin?

[Anonymous No.15397951]

who has 01?

[Anonymous No.15397955]

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1651324699245268994

Spinbros maybe its not over after all

[Anonymous No.15397956]

>>15397888
A grenade yeah.
A bullethole you can plug with two A4 sheets of paper and the pressure. Or with duct tape. The pressure differential is just 1 bar.

[Anonymous No.15397957]

/sfg/ go to bed

[Anonymous No.15397961]

>>15397865
>“can you contribute something significant to the colony”
Is "full time shitposter" a job?

[Anonymous No.15397964]

>>15397957
but it's almost time for lunch...

[Anonymous No.15397966]

>>15397951

[Anonymous No.15397967]

>>15397961
If Elon needs Mars exclusive propaganda then yes

[Anonymous No.15397968]

https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1651490226865426436

[Anonymous No.15397976]

>>15397964
siesta time

[Anonymous No.15397991]

>>15397968
>why
Because they're not China and would like a minimum of control over shit they send into the drink?

[Anonymous No.15398000]

>>15397968
They sent a barge near the middle of the Atlantic to recover the nose cones even if the boosters are going to be expended. Doesn't sound very mysterious.

[Anonymous No.15398002]

I'll repeat my prediction:

Over the next 5 years, Starship will suffer more failures than SLS will launch. Maybe the next 10 years.

Starship is going to have a long and painful development program. Not sure how it is going to turn out, maybe never going to carry people.

[Anonymous No.15398007]

>>15398002
Starship will fail more in the next 18 months than SLS will launch, let alone 5 years

[Anonymous No.15398008]

doomfags get the fucking rope, humans to Mars 2030

[Anonymous No.15398009]

>>15398002
>>15398002
>Starship will suffer more failures than SLS will launch
Yeah at 1 launch a year even Falcon can fail more than SLS launches and that program is 10 years old and almost never fails.
>Starship is going to have a long and painful development program
Likely but I disagree that it will be painful. Starships are cheap as shit relatively to produce, and they wont be doing human rated missions until they are absolutely sure they will never fail, and they will have taken over the entire LEO market long before that happens. It’s also an iterative design process, they will forerver be iterating in and developing the Starship for new destinations, orbits, customers etc so by default it will be ‘long’. Even if multiple failures occur along the way, it’s expected and doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things when you have an entire industry waiting to start once your rocket gets in to orbit AT ALL
>maybe never going to carry people
You should go back, like Unironically go back or kill yourself for thinking this. It would be better if your genes aren’t in the pool by the time we start going to Mars

[Anonymous No.15398011]

>>15398008
The airlock* rope doesn’t work well in anything less than 1G unless you spin them around for centripetal force which at that point you’ve made a whole contraption to execute doomers when the vacuum of space or non-human friendly atmospheres are right there

[Anonymous No.15398012]

>>15398007
Starship will fail more in 18 months than SLS will ever launch at all

[Anonymous No.15398016]

>>15398011
sorry I forgot to space-theme my threats

[Anonymous No.15398022]

>>15398002
any specific reason why you think this?

[Anonymous No.15398025]

>>15398011
not that hard to make a contraption like that, just take a steel bar and attach it to a electric motor then tie the rope at the end of the steel bar
then just start the motor

[Anonymous No.15398027]

>>15398022
I just think NASA is better and knows what they’re doing with their track record, they also clearly don’t trust Felon Musk so neither will I. Seeing the recent launch also proves that they don’t have what it takes because it blew up

[Anonymous No.15398029]

>>15398025
And then you also need to have a room cleared that’s what, 20 feet in diameter minimum to execute 6 foot tall people? In 0G? Just use the fucking airlock bro it’s right there

[Anonymous No.15398030]

>>15398027
I'm trans btw

[Anonymous No.15398034]

>Felon Musk
opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.15398037]

>>15398029
you can make them sit to execute them in a smaller space

[Anonymous No.15398039]

Staging

>>15398035
>>15398035
>>15398035
>>15398035
>>15398035

[Anonymous No.15398040]

>>15398027
I guess it was bait then allright

[Anonymous No.15398066]

>>15397865
I wouldn't take those CZ9 roadmap dates too seriously; CASC changes their minds all the time. Probably, the real constraining factor for China is how fast they can get their 2MN ffsc mox Raptor clone working. If the engine proceeds rapidly then the CZ9 schedule might be accelerated.

That CASC recently decided to shift from kox to mox for CZ9 suggests that they made key breakthroughs with the mox engine development. They previously said 2035 for the mox CZ9, then this April they said 2033. In the previous slides a reusable upper stage wasn't included in the roadmap, in the April slides they were.

If Starship works well then CASC might decide to skip the expendable first stage on CZ9 and go directly for a Starship clone.

[Anonymous No.15398076]

>>15398027
nice falseflagging

[Anonymous No.15398083]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Typ9MEhkDmI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYsGylmibac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE9Jl3sYdhw
post some relevant videos

[Anonymous No.15398088]

relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3JTafTEDv0

[Anonymous No.15398151]

>>15397865
>2040s... by then we will have long been on Mars

[Anonymous No.15398268]

>>15397775
>>15397799
thank you anons

[Anonymous No.15398457]

>>15397569
shh! you'll give the rocket girl artists ideas

[Anonymous No.15398551]

>>15397905
Newtons Third Law