/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15390386]

Why sleepless night feels better than <7 hours of sleep?

[Anonymous No.15390390]

i sleep for 12 hours straight for each 2 days this is great

[Anonymous No.15390392]

Take the nosleep pill. I don't sleep like 5 days and then sleep for 8 hours and feel amazing

[Anonymous No.15390393]

>pretending to be normal
>accepting to be abnormal

[Anonymous No.15390741]

>>15390386
It feels better at the time you would've woken up but by mid afternoon you'll be full blown narcoleptic unless you're mainlining caffeine. Skipping a night totally is only useful when your sleep schedule needs to be adjusted by a huge amount.

[Anonymous No.15390801]

>>15390741
This. There's a moment of bliss at sunrise but then it goes downhill really quickly

[Anonymous No.15390915]

>>15390801
so just go to sleep lol. nothing comfier than buying a sandwich at noon and falling asleep an hour later

[Anonymous No.15390957]

>>15390386
it doesnt

[Anonymous No.15391396]

>>15390386
Adrenaline.
Meth.

[Anonymous No.15391407]

>>15390386
You're lazy and you don't exercise, thats why you're not exhausted and ready to sleep at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.15392136]

>>15391407
not true. I excercised for more than an hour - 5 sets of pushups, hour of yoga 20 minutes of walking in forresrt. all for nothing.
My problem is not that i fall assleep at midnight and wake up at 5 AM, rather IF i have to wake up at 5AM i cant sleep AT ALL. The fuck is wrong with me?
and i have driver license test today i guess i have to pass on pure adrenaline and energy drinks

[Anonymous No.15392154]

>>15391407
The more you exercise, the more your body will rely on it to fall asleep. I don't ever exercise and sleep fine, if I exercise I'll get insomnia for a few days until I stop. Shit's poison for you, you're just wasting time for nothing.

[Anonymous No.15392159]

>>15392136
Thats barely exercise, its enough to prevent total atrophy and keep you from getting back injuries, but you spend the rest of the day sitting in a chair. Run 15-20 miles a day and you'll sleep, you can squeeze that into 2 hours.

[Anonymous No.15392186]

>>15390741
>but by mid afternoon you'll be full blown narcoleptic unless you're mainlining caffeine.
...no? I used to skip basically every other night and was fine.

[Anonymous No.15392194]

Unless you're *really* using your brain, sleep is largely unnecessary. You could get a away with 4 hours of sleep every night. If you wanna sleep when tired but can't, then try concentrating on some hard math problems, brain teasers, puzzles etc. If that doesn't work, there's always meds.

[Anonymous No.15392197]

>>15392194
I have been so used to doing math everyday that I cannot sleep without doing it.

[Anonymous No.15392513]

>>15392159
excellent way to destroy your hips by 50

[Anonymous No.15392536]

>>15392513
A man’s life of 50 years under the sky
is nothing compared to
the age of this world.
Life is but a fleeting dream, an illusion
Is there anything that lasts forever?

[Cult of Passion No.15392709]

>>15392536
>Is there anything that lasts forever?
The present moment. Think back to the time you were so scared it felt like time stopped.

Imagine that feeling never ending...perpetual hyper-sensory experience. Bible talks about people living "1,000 years"...

Biology, Cognition, Physiology, Biochemistry...this isnt made up fairy tales, its a detailed account of processes they had no means to scientifically measure.

[Anonymous No.15392990]

>>15392709
I see what you are saying. Present moment. But is not present moment ever changing? What i mean is, wouldnt present moment in t1 be different from t2?

[Cult of Passion No.15393003]

>>15392990
Yes, time does pass, but for me personally its so slow...at times its literally stops but with motion, and everything is felt, seen, smelt, experienced in greater detail than most people experience in their whole lives.

Yes, its a bit "contradictory", but thats more so a consequences of language and trying to adhere definitions of words to the correlated aspects of reality.

Being in "the zone" is another. Also, it works in the inverse. "Time flies when having fun". It can slip by, too...fleeting.

Immortality isnt what humans say it is. Its real but way too hardcore for most people, they would fuck it up and experience hardship worse than anything they cod bear as the consequences would last for what would feel like a literal lifetime.

Heaven. Hell. These are not for mortals.

...but angels do walk among them.

[Anonymous No.15393008]

>>15390386
No it doesn’t you dumbass, go to bed.

[Anonymous No.15393020]

>>15393003
I understand, present moment comes as bliss to me too.
Do you have any methods of prolonging it? Somehow i allways get riped out of it.

[Cult of Passion No.15393034]

>>15393020
>Do you have any methods of prolonging it?
Ecclesiastes 3:1-11

Life isnt meant to be survived.

Enjoy the good...but do not turn away from hardship for comfort's sake. If its for the good, to protect someone, to do the right thing, to stand up to evil, then do it.

Physical excersion, working out, mountain climbing, push the mind, body AND soul.

Complete the system;
https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

"You're gunna carry that weight."

[Cult of Passion No.15393048]

>>15393020
Oh...and you wont have that "OMG I SEE GOD." moment, youre not a Prophet, youre normal.

BUT...if you live right, you might look back one day and think "Damn...its been a long, fruitful, journey." and see your old friends and theyre in the same mode, same cloths, same music, same job, same world.

You'll learn it after the fact.

https://youtu.be/bjjkEEKeNhw

[Anonymous No.15393051]

>>15393020
drugs like ketamine or opioids

[Anonymous No.15393073]

>>15393034
Agreed.
I was thinking about being in present moment not life. I wish not to live forever. This form is quit exhausting sometimes.
As much as i try to aceept the interactions with the world as they are.
Will watch video as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.15393078]

>>15393048
There is alot of stoic thought that i recognise in this paragraph. And i agree.
There is a story of Heraclitus and choosing between virtue and hedonism. Do you know it?

[Anonymous No.15393102]

>>15392197
Nah, you're just not challenging yourself enough, I use to have the same issue and found that doing convoluted QM+EM problems and justifying everything from 1st principles was an absolute brain drain. When that failed I resorted to oxycodone, conventional sleep meds just didn't work.

[Cult of Passion No.15393110]

>>15393073
>I was thinking about being in present moment not life.
Impossible for another to answer...thats like someone else telling you how to enjoy what you enjoy, its specific intricacies known only to you.

Every moment *is* the most important moment, so make it meaningful, even if its just acknowledging a homeless person as a human or really meaning that handshake to a new face.

The flip side of that is if you try to do that for every moment of life you get burned out, so...a time to live, and a time to get things done, and a time for rest and vegging out some.

Its exhausting for me...Im not a "people person", Im shy and slow to open up, so I spend a bit too much time "laboting alone", my "Job" is being with people that are demon possessed, ignorant or pseudo-evil (subconscioussly set shit up for bad things to happen but consciously are unware of it so punishing them for it gives the demon victimhood and further reason to commit wrong.)

>>15393078
>Do you know it?
Nay, though I have perused Philosophy of every time and corner of the world to some degree.

[Anonymous No.15393208]

>>15393110
Agreed.
Finding balance surely is helpful.

>my "Job" is being with people that are demon possessed, ignorant or pseudo-evil (subconscioussly set shit up for bad things to happen but consciously are unware of it so punishing them for it gives the demon victimhood and further reason to commit wrong

Wdym by this?

>Nay, though I have perused Philosophy of every time and corner of the world to some degree.

Here a link:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_at_the_crossroads#:~:text=Hercules%20at%20the%20crossroads%2C%20also,one%20of%20hardship%20and%20honour.

I came upon it in:
Donald J. Robertson
How to Think Like a Roman Emperor: The Stoic Philosophy of Marcus Aurelius

[Cult of Passion No.15393263]

>>15393208
>Wdym by this?
Healing the sick sort of thing, seeing what their demon is and trying to exercise it out. Some of them are "healable", other are metastasized into being the controlling agent of the person.

Sometimes its Psychological, thats easily healable for me, the Biological kind is more of a "Evolutionary track"...thats closer to "fighting nature" and generally profitless for me to deal with. *Can* be "helped" but...even the Holy Spirit tells me to "let them be". Their "choice" and its more like trying to make someone leave the Matrix when theyre not ready "kills the demon but if the demon is the dominant force is ones life you kill the person, literally, at the same time".

These sound melodramatic but its not, Psychological damage so great they never recover. Imagine the most pure little kid subjected, in person and to themselves, the kind of things posted here. Wrecked...never recover, suicidal, unbearable living.

So...I walk with demons. Hell is a place I visit. Heaven is shockingly empty...

>Hercules who is offered a choice between Vice and Virtue—a life of pleasure or one of hardship and honour.
Tale as old as time itself.

[Anonymous No.15393328]

>>15393263
I see. That is nice thing to do.
A thing that i often wonder about is, should we at all strife to change the wqy things are in nature? In sense of biologicak kind you speak off.
I mean it sounds melodramatic only by mentioning demons and angels. I do not belive in them as in a sense of antropomorfic beings or forces. But i do belive that that which you designate as demons or angels exist. Dosent matter after all. Interesting job you have non the less.

Do you often sense evil in someone?
I often get into trouble because i "feel" evil in someones doings but i do not have rational evidance for it. Do you understand what im trying to say?
Like, someone might say "Ohh but i didnt mean that" but you see in theyr eyes, the way they present that they did. You see "wolf" behinde the "sheep" cover.
This is my best take at deacribing, bevause i havent really got into nature of it more.

Beautifull tale non the less.

[Cult of Passion No.15393334]

>>15393328
>I mean it sounds melodramatic only by mentioning demons and angels
Then you havnt seen enough suicides.

[Anonymous No.15393337]

>>15393334
True, altho i am close with people that tryed it.

[Anonymous No.15393350]

>>15393337
Edit:
I eatched the videos, i just dont get what does Trump have to do with Idealism?

[Cult of Passion No.15393361]

>>15393328
>I do not belive in them as in a sense of antropomorfic beings or forces.

Youre not a doctor and Ive dropped enough STEM in the posts to clue you in that what Im saying is backed by more research than you could ever hope to cover in your entire life.

Physiology, Phenomenology, Psychology, Genetics, Evolutionary Biology, Environmental Genetics, wrapped up lastly into Physics. Biochemistry some but my approach to that field is from an Unorthodox ventor, so I can say Im not a "Chemist" in the traditional sense.


Youre taking me for some conjurer of cheap tricks.

Im done here...youre so far outleagued we're not truly the same species...keep up or shut up about what "some ignirant normie "beleefs" is".

I dont care. Im Reseacrh Scientist with much of my work being literally lightyears ahead of the field.

[Anonymous No.15393386]

>>15393361
>Youre not a doctor

Didnt claim that

>Youre taking me for some conjurer of cheap tricks.

No.

>I dont care. Im Reseacrh Scientist with much of my work being literally lightyears ahead of the field.

Okay.. good for you...

[Anonymous No.15393392]

>>15393386
Edit:
You went from being peacefull and sharing experiance to apeshit crazzy in secounds just because i dont see things the way you do?
What is your problem man. Damn.

[Cult of Passion No.15393471]

>>15393392
>apeshit crazzy
No. I havnt grabbed your throat.
>What is your problem man.
I'm detailing the culmination of 10,000+ hours of University lectures and as much in personal research into posts for some dude to say;

"Yeah, I beleef otherwise."

Even if you had a PhD in one of those fields I would only use more complex and field specific language to shut you down even harder.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, SON?

WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN?

WHAT HAS IT COST YOU?

MY SOUL BLEEDS AETHER.

WHAT HAVE YOU BLED FOR?

[Cult of Passion No.15393513]

If your "beleef" doesnt come with the expert opinion of a PhD...

>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15393657]

>>15393471
I did not say i belive otherwise, i told you i have different conception of the same thing.

[Cult of Passion No.15393691]

>>15393657
>different conception of the same thing.
Yes...and so do flat earthers.

Youre still in this "Hey....MY ignorance is Just As Valid as your Medical Opinion, Doc."

Its not. Its flagrantly offensive to step to me like that. Literal spitting at the feet of Pai Mei and saying "Im just as good of a fighter as you." then crying when you get put on your ass.

Never forget this meeting, I never will...my eidedic memory wont let me.

Anonymous is for YOU...otherwise every time you post I would reengage you from where we left off until you learn...or leave.

[Anonymous No.15393728]

>>15393691
>Youre still in this "Hey....MY ignorance is Just As Valid as your Medical Opinion, Doc."
No.. i never claimed that. You are puting words in my mouth.

>Offensive?
Anon, i am just chating with you no one is attacking you.