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[Anonymous No.15384956]

Its fine - edition

Previous >>15381207

[Anonymous No.15384962]

Spaceplanes are cool.

[Anonymous No.15384966]

Hey boys, WE'RE BAAAACK

[Anonymous No.15384968]

See you in 5.5 months, /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15384971]

>>15384928
Phil Metzger said it helps with heat, but not really with acoustics

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1649653976197939200

[Anonymous No.15384970]

TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE that our launch tower is a pile of shit ! hahaha

And then STAGING doesn't work ??? Upper stage engines don't ignite ?? What a shit show

[Anonymous No.15384972]

>concrete pad fucking explodes, smashes into the first stage engines
>7/33 engines failed
>bleeding LOX everywhere
>still makes it to Max-Q
Strongship.

[Anonymous No.15384976]

>>15384972
>then survives TWO fucking somersaults before being forcibly detonated
Stainless chads

[Anonymous No.15384978]

>>15384962
boomers pls leave

[Anonymous No.15384979]

>>15384962
I agree. while some of the shortcomings of the space shuttle were intrinsic to it being a spaceplane, many of them weren't and could have been mitigated with a new design and a more focused mission profile

[Anonymous No.15384980]

>>15384962
space plane bug bit 'nother one

[Anonymous No.15384982]

>>15384970
this is erik burger from florida oblast, i agree i am demoralized now

[Anonymous No.15384985]

>>15384971
a flat steel plate doesn't help with acoustics

a flat steel plate, with flowing water or maybe pooled water does, also idk if he even knows deluge is coming too

here's my concept btw

[Anonymous No.15384988]

>>15384971
i dont care what dr who has to say about acoustics

[Anonymous No.15384989]

>>15384988
This guy is legit and knows his shit

[Anonymous No.15384991]

>>15384989
Thanks but I trust anons with ms paint drawings more

[Anonymous No.15384993]

>>15384972
Can't wait to see spaceship on spaceship combat centuries from now, which mainly consists of throwing big rocks at each other

[Anonymous No.15384995]

>>15384971
good thing they are doing a water deluge as well.

Main advantage of using steel is that it doesn't disintegrate like concrete, it's much more resistant to pressure in general, like 5 times the PSI equivalent.

[Anonymous No.15384996]

>>15384985
Build a river that'll flow under starship launch pad, fed by a elevated pond

[Anonymous No.15384997]

>>15384995
If it's that good why did they even go with concrete in the first place

[Anonymous No.15384998]

>>15384991
I made that drawing >>15384985

No I'm not an engineer, just a thinker

[Anonymous No.15385000]

NASA should've succeeded.

[Anonymous No.15385003]

>>15384971
>acoustics
Ez

[Anonymous No.15385006]

>>15384993
Steel ships are weak to bremsstrahlung and thus particle beams.
>hit outside of steel ship with particle beam
>chain reaction sprays radiation all over the interior
This is bad if it hits propellant, computers, or crew.

[Anonymous No.15385007]

>>15384956
>thread created when previous one reached page 10
check
>thread name is correct
check
>previous thread linked
check
>relevant picture
check

OP for once is not a massive faggot

[Anonymous No.15385008]

>>15384997
They hoped that concrete would be enough and they figured there was good chance they would have to rebuild the launch site anyway.

[Anonymous No.15385009]

>>15384998
>>15384985
on second thought, that might direct flames upward towards the OLM...

[Anonymous No.15385012]

>>15385000
20 year+ development time + $4 billion per launch vehicle

vs

<4 year development time + ~$100M per launch (expendible)

[Anonymous No.15385013]

>>15384997
It has to be actively cooled to prevent molten steel bullets flying everywhere.

[Anonymous No.15385014]

>>15384988
its a thread about testing a steel plate as a moveable launchpad for Morpheus lander at Nasas Swamp Works

> The Swamp Works was co-founded by NASA engineers and scientists Jack Fox, Rob Mueller, and Philip Metzger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Morpheus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_Works

[Anonymous No.15385019]

>>15385003
>>15384995
concrete like all ceramics crumbles easily and is not suited for complex loads like during launch. Steel is literally the best material

[Anonymous No.15385020]

>>15384993
no, carrying around big rocks is a waste of delta v, which means you won't be able to avoid what the other guy chucks at you for as long. It's more likely to be CHODE style, where you have a lot of high tech missiles with large explosives (maybe nukes), with lasers and stuff to destroy the other guys missiles if you can't avoid them. You'd use you're Dv as cleverly and sparingly as you could to mess with his targeting and live a little longer. Very, very strategic.

[Anonymous No.15385022]

>The fucking booster and ship are tanks, possibly over-engineered especially the newest versions
>the fucking launch infrastructure and pad are a pain in the ass, full of compromises, over-engineered and can't stand up to the forces of launch

This is so frustrating fuckk, if Starship was standing fully fueled on LC-39A original pad right now (with a modified mount and tower) it would be ready to go

[Anonymous No.15385025]

>>15385019
Make them 1meter solid steel triangles instead then, problem solved. Shockwave and flame diverters

[Anonymous No.15385026]

>>15384956
the fact that it's tilted affects the aesthetics of the launch quite a bit as does the flame which is clearly too orange to be methane

[Anonymous No.15385030]

>>15385020
somebody post the chinese space combat thing

[Anonymous No.15385034]

>>15385025
I don't think the sound getting reflected at the rocket will be a big problem, especially with deluge

[Anonymous No.15385035]

>>15385008

[Anonymous No.15385040]

>>15385035

[Anonymous No.15385042]

>>15384966
>Nein, I do not give a bent schnitzel about ze ceiling. I vill have it to scale!

[Anonymous No.15385044]

https://scott-manley.fandom.com/wiki/Interpretive_dancing

[Anonymous No.15385049]

>>15385022
How long before they start launching from Florida?

[Anonymous No.15385051]

>>15384970
If Elon spent more time on SpaceX and less on turning twitter into nazi central, perhaps some of these errors wouldn't have happened. But no, he just had to stick his nose into everyone's politics and push his rightwing agenda. He should have stayed in South Africa.

[Anonymous No.15385053]

>>15385019
or just empty space and then water, no?

[Anonymous No.15385054]

>>15385035
I bet Roman concrete would fair better

[Anonymous No.15385056]

>>15385054
No fucking concrete fares anything even remotely resembling "fair" against 8000 tons of thrust.

[Anonymous No.15385057]

>>15385044

[Anonymous No.15385059]

>>15385035

[Anonymous No.15385063]

>>15385049
after this i dont think nasa will give them permit to launch from cape anytime soon. they would destroy whole LC without proper flame diverter and sound suppression system

[Anonymous No.15385067]

>>15385049
After a few successful launches from Boca Chica last I heard

[Anonymous No.15385068]

Keep in mind that this is a coastal marsh. You can't dig down very far without it becoming swampy. That might sound good (free water!) but the moisture doesn't replenish anywhere near fast enough. If you want a tunnel, you'll likely need to raise up the launch platform to minimize how much the tunnel ends up below grade.

[Anonymous No.15385070]

https://twitter.com/11k25_energia/status/1649813647835766785

[Anonymous No.15385071]

>>15385067
>>15385049

Successful in this case meaning the pad isn't demolished either

[Anonymous No.15385080]

>>15385054
Roman concrete is 90% meme by weight.

[Anonymous No.15385089]

>>15385068
>can't dig beneath the water table
This is nonsense. Caissons and pumps have been used to do exactly that for hundreds of years.

[Anonymous No.15385091]

>>15384971
interesting insights into the vibration damage on their Morpheous work

[Anonymous No.15385093]

>>15385068
Or just dig down into the swamp and static fire the rocket a few times to core it out.

[Anonymous No.15385099]

>>15385093
build a proper suspension bridge to launch from thats a good 500 feet off the water

[Anonymous No.15385101]

>>15383414
>yeah it's a stupid plan on earth,
The word is "scam"

[Anonymous No.15385102]

>>15385099
or like an oil rig

[Anonymous No.15385103]

>>15385051
>turning twitter into nazi central
you have to go fucking back cultist

[Anonymous No.15385109]

>>15385089
I miss Rome so much bros

[Anonymous No.15385111]

Reminder that thia is how starship does stage seperation

[Anonymous No.15385117]

>>15385109
That's not Roman; that's the Charles Bridge in Prague, built in the 14th century.

[Anonymous No.15385124]

>>15385111
I do it that way in KSP. Usually it works out fine.

[Anonymous No.15385133]

>>15385117
>Charles
>King Charles IV
>King Charles IV, Holy Roman Emperor

[Anonymous No.15385142]

Reminder that this is how starship does stage seperation

[Anonymous No.15385149]

>>15385142
ants move it?

[Anonymous No.15385152]

>>15385133
okay sure

[Anonymous No.15385162]

>>15385111
If its true it makes the belly flop look tame

[Anonymous No.15385166]

>>15385111
It's the "Booger Fling" maneuver.

[Anonymous No.15385176]

>>15385008
>they intended to destroy it anyway ;)
Elon dickriders are delusional

[Anonymous No.15385180]

>>15385149
it's loss

[Anonymous No.15385182]

Starship Flight Test 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpR1UUnix3g

[Anonymous No.15385189]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

road should open in like 30 minutes?
closeup shots should be coming up I guess if people drive down there

[Anonymous No.15385192]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2BQKCnPkIc

[Anonymous No.15385195]

Some days, you just can't get rid of a S-IVB!
>J002E3 is an object in space which is thought to be the S-IVB third stage of the Apollo 12 Saturn V rocket. It was discovered on September 3, 2002, by amateur astronomer Bill Yeung. Initially thought to be an asteroid, it has since been tentatively identified as the third stage of Apollo 12 Saturn V based on spectrographic evidence consistent with the titanium dioxide in the paint used on the rockets.[1][2] The stage was intended to be injected into a permanent heliocentric orbit in November 1969, but is now believed instead to have gone into an unstable high Earth orbit which left Earth's proximity in 1971 and again in June 2003, with an approximately 40-year cycle between heliocentric and geocentric orbit.

[Anonymous No.15385200]

>>15385133

[Anonymous No.15385202]

When you see it

[Anonymous No.15385203]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1649836455324164097

Is this really a sound business decision? Or just Bezos seething towards Musk.

[Anonymous No.15385207]

>>15385202
WTF

[Anonymous No.15385209]

>>15385202
It was originally a Falcon 9 site

[Anonymous No.15385211]

>>15385207
>>15385209
Yep, FAA would have allowed a flame duct if they just fucking built one

[Anonymous No.15385218]

In your opinion is ‘Cosmodrome’ strictly a Russian thing? I like the term a lot better than Space Port, personally.

[Anonymous No.15385224]

>>15385203
https://illdefined.space/2023/04/20/amazon-kuiper-more-than-leo-broadband/

> The company’s Kuiper satellite constellation plans can’t be looked at solely through the lens of an internet broadband provider from space. Amazon has made it clear that Kuiper represents something more than communications infrastructure. Amazon is an internet retail platform and business. Kuiper is a customer delivery mechanism for Amazon that “happens” to give people internet access. That access allows people to buy services and “stuff” from the company.

> All of the rambling above is to reiterate that perhaps the usual way of analyzing Kuiper’s business (sales & distribution, Mbps, launch and technology costs, etc.) is interesting. But, it also seems beside the point. Amazon clearly has other ways to make money from its Kuiper venture than just offering internet service. Arriving late to the LEO broadband party doesn’t make its network less impactful or its services less valuable. However, when it does deploy Kuiper, those services will be there for those who want them.

Interesting point that I haven't seen before (or at least haven't thought about)

[Anonymous No.15385227]

>>15385195
this is going to be such a scavenger mark since the value as a collectors item is incredibly high on the black market

[Anonymous No.15385229]

>>15385176
>Points to facts
>ElOn DiCkRiDeRs
Retard.

[Anonymous No.15385230]

Why is the ESL community so dumb?

https://twitter.com/tapsduro/status/1649069078697459715?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15385233]

>>15385211
but is it really just up to FAA? I thought the holdup this time for instance was wildlife services or something retarded like that
A flame trench (assuming it would be easy/possible to build it here) would probably need a new enviromental review? Not to mention it would take a lot of time to build

[Anonymous No.15385237]

>>15385230
>Why is the ESL community so dumb?
It's a Russia thing. They have this idea that only they are capable of innovating in specific fields with very redneck engineering approaches and succeed, and it's a huge part of their national self-image.

[Anonymous No.15385244]

>>15385224
Monopolist closed ecosystem behaviour to try and force people to use a crappier system.
Won't work imo, I don't even think they would actually try this.

[Anonymous No.15385245]

>>15385218
Why not since aerodrome is in use for airports.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aip_html/ad_2.html

[Anonymous No.15385256]

>>15385182
dubs and it lands

[Anonymous No.15385257]

Imagine the seethe when Starship blows a crater on Mars

[Anonymous No.15385258]

>>15384956
weebs on suicide watch

https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136
https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694

[Anonymous No.15385260]

RIP

https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1649846072687067136?s=61&t=KByqJkc6ImJWsDMvQlNeRg

[Anonymous No.15385262]

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1649843591160684546

People are going back to the site

[Anonymous No.15385265]

>>15385035
wasn't fondag the one where optimally you want it to cure for a few decades?

[Anonymous No.15385268]

>>15385224
It's very thin on details and very thick on marketing nothing speak. Sounds like Jeff just doesn't want to be called a copycat.

[Anonymous No.15385271]

>>15385260
NSF paypiggies are due for a thorough milking

[Anonymous No.15385275]

van bros... we got too cocky

[Anonymous No.15385276]

>>15385260
those plastic bags are funny

[Anonymous No.15385277]

>>15385260
Why don't photographers use cheap sacrificial transparent lens-covers made of thin flat glass?

It's such an obvious solution, I guess they already do.

[Anonymous No.15385280]

Does /sfg/ have any sympathy for the Starship influencers who got their gear wrecked?

[Anonymous No.15385282]

Imagine life actually seeds itself in the Universe the same way ecosystems on Earth work

[Anonymous No.15385284]

At least they died for a decent photo

[Anonymous No.15385286]

>>15385280

[Anonymous No.15385287]

>>15385280
>any sympathy for influencers
No.

[Anonymous No.15385290]

>>15385280
>Does /sfg/ have any sympathy
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.15385292]

>>15385277
the obvious solution to me is to put the camera in an armored box turned 90 degrees to what you want to shoot and point a sacrificial mirror at your target

[Anonymous No.15385298]

>>15385280
>>15385260
Hi NSF, if you disappeared right now, nobody would care, grifter scum. A shame that your van didn't take more damage. You will meet your fate as all grifters do, from your own actions, hopefully this happens sooner rather than later, spaceflight deserves better real-time documentarians.
Also, it's called an occupational hazard and fuck you kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.15385300]

>>15385280
No, its all part of hobbyist plan. They will make their money from donations in a while.

[Anonymous No.15385302]

>>15385298
based.
grifters need go bankrupt

[Anonymous No.15385305]

>>15385292
I think that wouldn't help much if a cloud of dust fell on you, but yes that's certainly a good way to handle many hazards.

Fun fact: The 1916 version of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea had underwater diving scenes that were filmed using a reverse periscope (camera above the water, because 1916, but using mirrors to film below water.) The movie also features a real submarine.

[Anonymous No.15385309]

>>15385298
Based and total grifter death pilled

[Anonymous No.15385313]

[Anonymous No.15385331]

[Anonymous No.15385337]

>>15385280
Cost of doing business.

[Anonymous No.15385340]

>>15385142
fuck you

[Anonymous No.15385342]

The strong protect the sweet

[Anonymous No.15385346]

>>15385331
Are the gridfins being used to assist with steering?

[Anonymous No.15385345]

Look at the bottom left, you're telling me this isn't allowed a couple yards to the right under the launch mount???

[Anonymous No.15385347]

https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1649852258136338432

[Anonymous No.15385349]

>>15385346
No

[Anonymous No.15385352]

>>15385203
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1649845468413739008

[Anonymous No.15385358]

>>15385237
Their self esteem is a three legged stool.
>MUH SPACE
>MUH WW2
>MUH STRONK SOVIET ARMY
The US has left Russia in the dust on space and cheap NATO hand me downs are slagging Russian tanks faster than they can be replaced in Ukraine. I expect Russia to do something deeply stupid involving nukes or the ISS this year to regain face.

[Anonymous No.15385359]

>>15385347
A few tent stakes to tie down the tripod would probably solve this problem. I guess it depends on how much the ground itself is shaking, maybe the stakes would pull out if the soil is bouncing. Still, that's what I'd do.

[Anonymous No.15385360]

>>15385352
It’s not even funny at this point, it’s just retarded overall

[Anonymous No.15385362]

>>15385340
<3

[Anonymous No.15385364]

>>15385352
>increased price of higher flight rate
Reverse bulk discount? Lmao get fucked bezos.

[Anonymous No.15385370]

>>15385203
jesus, thus would have been cope 2 years ago but realty?

[Anonymous No.15385373]

>>15385142
How did this meme get way out here

[Anonymous No.15385374]

>>15385358
>MUH WW2
They're trying really hard to lean on this leg since the others have collapsed, calling Ukraine nazis to invoke memory of WW2, but the entire western world is laughing at them for it. They've got nothing now, every font of Russian pride is drying up and leaving only bitter resentment behind. As resentment increases, so do the chances of them doing something deeply stupid.

[Anonymous No.15385375]

>>15385360
so if 38 flights for 120-130M is about 4.5-5 Bil in the speculation, but its actually 10 Bil, then that is like 250M per launch amortized (when you take into account support etc whatever that entails)
Could they just use falcon 9? If they could, that would be 67 Mil per launch vs 250 Mil
we could round that 67 up to 83 or something for the support and whatever, amazon would save like 6-7 billion on launches alone

[Anonymous No.15385377]

>>15385375
I think they’re avoiding SX at all costs

[Anonymous No.15385380]

The launch site erosion is incredible.

https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1649856515807879170

[Anonymous No.15385381]

>Terraforms mars
>Marsforms earth
kino

[Anonymous No.15385382]

>>15385374
>>15385358
/k/tards please leave

[Anonymous No.15385383]

>>15385374
This is why we must treat Russia with greater respect and stop supporting the rogue state that is currently invading them.

[Anonymous No.15385385]

Hello, what’s happened in the last 12 hours, anything new discovered?

[Anonymous No.15385386]

[Anonymous No.15385390]

>>15385298
Theyre garbage coverage of the starship launch was truly embarrassing despite the fact they been covering this from the beginning. they put out shit from that Ansuini guy, 1080p videos only, garbage audio, garbage commentary (90% superchats from the same 3 whale piggies). absolutely good for nothing

[Anonymous No.15385392]

>>15385385
It's over.

[Anonymous No.15385394]

>>15385298
based

[Anonymous No.15385395]

>>15385382
Uh oh, sounds like somebody is experiencing some bitter resentment! Poor tankie, you lost the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries but maybe the 22nd will be better for you...

[Anonymous No.15385400]

>>15385380
lol

[Anonymous No.15385402]

The door that got ripped out of the OLM

[Anonymous No.15385404]

>>15385400
>if we can't get to the moon, at least we can turn texas into the moon...

[Anonymous No.15385407]

>>15385400
kino

[Anonymous No.15385408]

State of the vertical tanks

[Anonymous No.15385410]

>>15385380
>>15385386
>>15385400
>>15385402
I wish I was there to see it in person.

[Anonymous No.15385411]

>>15385408
>State of the vertical tanks
fuck these tanks lmao

[Anonymous No.15385415]

I don't think its too bad to be honest
everything got a bit sandblasted, just paint the steel, the concrete buildings that didnt get hit with large concrete blocks are fine
fill the crater with sand or something, but new rebar in and pour some concrete on top
add the steel flame-diverter water cooling thing
done

[Anonymous No.15385416]

>>15385408
the chunk that made the big dent must be car sized lol

[Anonymous No.15385417]

IMAX camera survived

[Anonymous No.15385419]

>>15385402
That was a door?

[Anonymous No.15385421]

More of the tower damage

>>15385419
Yep. The door was in the hole visible in the side of the Orbital Launch Mount here >>15385386

[Anonymous No.15385426]

>>15385063
>they would destroy whole LC without proper flame diverter and sound suppression system
i wonder what the LC could have that would allow them to launch safely

[Anonymous No.15385430]

[Anonymous No.15385431]

>>15385426
it cant be done

[Anonymous No.15385433]

>>15385358
>>15385374
This sort of thing is why I consider Russians more Asian than European.

[Anonymous No.15385435]

>>15385408
Vertical tank bros...

[Anonymous No.15385436]

[Anonymous No.15385438]

>>15385117
cool bridge, we were warned to watch our stuff while crossing it as to not get robbed. Good times.

[Anonymous No.15385442]

>>15385430
>>15385436
tower looks ok. certainly would have been worse if it exploded on the mount

[Anonymous No.15385443]

>>15385417
immediately reminded me of this lol

[Anonymous No.15385444]

[Anonymous No.15385446]

mit Deutschland an userer seite das ziel fest in blick

[Anonymous No.15385447]

>>15385430
>oxidised everything immediately
ok more pessimistic now

[Anonymous No.15385448]

>>15385443
Is this porn?

[Anonymous No.15385450]

[Anonymous No.15385452]

>>15385331
the cloud wrapping around SS is so kino

[Anonymous No.15385455]

[Anonymous No.15385458]

>>15385431
It must

[Anonymous No.15385459]

>>15385448
there's a lot of naked people in it but it's just a kids' movie

[Anonymous No.15385460]

>>15385408
the absolute state

[Anonymous No.15385462]

[Anonymous No.15385464]

>>15385452
Saturn V didn't do that, why do Falcon and Starship

[Anonymous No.15385465]

>>15385417
can't wait to review the ultra high fps footage

[Anonymous No.15385466]

[Anonymous No.15385468]

>>15385380
Woah how did you get this image? I thought the US had withdrawn from Afghanistan already!

[Anonymous No.15385469]

[Anonymous No.15385470]

>>15385462
someone last night said 200gw of heat. how much is that in countries powered or bombs or something?

[Anonymous No.15385473]

>But the Ariane 6 rocket is now failing even at this, its most basic and important task. Politico reports that the European Commission—the executive arm of the European Union—is looking to buy rides on the Falcon 9 rocket due to ongoing delays in readiness of the Ariane 6 rocket.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/europes-ariane-6-rocket-is-turning-into-a-space-policy-disaster/
lmao
what makes the french unable to get to space?

[Anonymous No.15385475]

TOTAL CAMERA GORE

[Anonymous No.15385476]

[Anonymous No.15385477]

>>15385408
They even have the hescos to complete the Iraq look.

[Anonymous No.15385479]

>>15385464
>fuel rocket in fog
> ice wtf!

[Anonymous No.15385480]

[Anonymous No.15385481]

[Anonymous No.15385482]

>>15385476
at this point it's probably cheaper to diasassemble the whole thing and build it anew

[Anonymous No.15385483]

>>15385476
laggingx

[Anonymous No.15385484]

[Anonymous No.15385485]

>>15385477
can't believe Elon did this

[Anonymous No.15385486]

[Anonymous No.15385487]

>>15385482
lol no

[Anonymous No.15385490]

>>15385230
are he miracle alloy RD-170 engines made in Ukraine?

[Anonymous No.15385491]

>>15385473
Too lazy.

[Anonymous No.15385492]

[Anonymous No.15385494]

>>15385111
reminder that tis is how starship does stage separation

[Anonymous No.15385495]

>>15385481

[Anonymous No.15385496]

[Anonymous No.15385497]

>>15385473
>>15385491
because the french burn down their factories every time some law is passed

[Anonymous No.15385498]

>build largest ever rocket that works like a tank
>skimp on the pad infrastructure

[Anonymous No.15385501]

>>15385484
Michael Jackson !??

[Anonymous No.15385503]

>>15385498
the future is expendable launch pads

[Anonymous No.15385504]

[Anonymous No.15385506]

>>15385494
kek

[Anonymous No.15385509]

>>15385494
This is absurd. How stupid are they?

[Anonymous No.15385510]

>>15385503
its not that easy in paddery

[Anonymous No.15385511]

>>15385400
>vulnerable ecosystem

[Anonymous No.15385513]

[Anonymous No.15385516]

this reminds me more of some post-soviet shithole industrial area than a wildlife preserve lmao

[Anonymous No.15385517]

reminder this is how starship does stage separation

[Anonymous No.15385520]

>>15385494
One is bound to make it

[Anonymous No.15385522]

[Anonymous No.15385525]

[Anonymous No.15385526]

so basically whats happened is a hs girl has thrown a packet on mentos into a coke bottle expecting it to fill her mouth and spill a little and instead its come pouring out of her arse from the pressure

[Anonymous No.15385530]

>>15385526
pretty much

[Anonymous No.15385531]

>>15385526

[Anonymous No.15385533]

https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer/status/1649858250676879360

shitload of pictures here (and the replies)

[Anonymous No.15385536]

>>15385504
>>15385513
>>15385516
this is so industrial punk x warcore kino

[Anonymous No.15385540]

Look at the completely surface blasted concrete.

[Anonymous No.15385541]

>>15385533
lol the whole thing is destroyed and has to be rebuilt

[Anonymous No.15385543]

>>15385533
wish i could be assed with learning twitter (i cant)

[Anonymous No.15385545]

its fucking over

[Anonymous No.15385547]

human for scale

[Anonymous No.15385551]

>>15385547
there would be less damage if they'd nuked it lol

[Anonymous No.15385554]

>>15385547
theres people on site now? isnt it dangerous near the OLM?? like they have to stabilize that shit

[Anonymous No.15385555]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KLMDZzbvl8

[Anonymous No.15385556]

>>15385531
Kek

[Anonymous No.15385559]

>>15385547
>Was it worth it, Elon?

[Anonymous No.15385563]

I sat here thinking that it exploding on the pad would be worse, yet somehow I feel like the small amounts of widespread damage hurts my soul more. Tanks, OLM, pipes, QD arm, rental vehicles in the vicinity, road damage...

Not over, but certainly delayed 6 - 9 months. >mfw

[Anonymous No.15385564]

gaan status: on permanent hold

[Anonymous No.15385566]

>>15385563
no Elon said 2 months!

[Anonymous No.15385569]

>>15385543
Learning twitter?

[Anonymous No.15385575]

>>15385563
yup. It they delayed a few weeks to put in that flame diverter, it probably would only have been a month turnaround before the next test

[Anonymous No.15385576]

>>15385566
I accounted for Elon time. Two months = at least 7. I'll be amazed if a flame trench even starts construction by August.

[Anonymous No.15385577]

>>15385575
>few weeks to put in that flame diverter
yeah right

[Anonymous No.15385579]

we're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death

[Anonymous No.15385581]

>>15385554
How the fuck are they gonna stabilize it without people on site retard

[Anonymous No.15385582]

>>15385577
they literally have one on site

[Anonymous No.15385585]

>>15385555
quints for kino

[Anonymous No.15385588]

I'm gonna say it

I wish they didn't launch and wejust waited till they installed diverter/water

I wonder if some autistic Elonism took over where he had to get his fucking 4/20 launch HAHA MEMES instead of playing it safe for an untested full thrust launch, well you got your result now, fucking concrete shrapnel all over the pad

[Anonymous No.15385589]

>>15385569
Some people are old, just let them be.

[Anonymous No.15385590]

>>15385582
This, they said they’ve been constructing it for 3 months and wasn’t prepped by the time they started getting ready for OFT-1. Too many of you are nitwits that listen to that nog CSI Starbase when he’s been continually BTFO on dates. I already rationed out hopium last thread, I’ll do give more if I see more doomer messages

[Anonymous No.15385594]

>>15385555
Gonna be great seeing all the kino released over the next week or two

[Anonymous No.15385595]

>>15385590
>I already rationed out hopium last thread,

What was it, I need some

[Anonymous No.15385596]

>>15385588
Fuck off doomer. I’m distributing hopium again soon, I hate you doomers so much

[Anonymous No.15385598]

>>15385588
birdeddit has ruined him.

[Anonymous No.15385600]

>>15385585
singles for inability to count

[Anonymous No.15385602]

[Anonymous No.15385605]

>>15385588
There are no diverters in Mars, anon. They have to learn what damage raptors can cause and how much abuse they can take so it isn't a problem over there.

[Anonymous No.15385606]

[Anonymous No.15385607]

>>15385462
chudbros... it's over
the greenies are going to win

[Anonymous No.15385611]

>>15385605
see >>15384673

[Anonymous No.15385612]

>>15385602
that strut fab and welding is awful.

[Anonymous No.15385618]

>>15385588
Could it be installed without the need to extensively modify the launch stand? If not, you've gained nothing but lost lots of time for analyzing data from the launch.

[Anonymous No.15385619]

I'm gonna say it

I'm team Bezos now. Starship launch was so reckless and Elon Musk is a poopy dummy dum dum who dont wipe his ass! He ol musky, why dont you learn how to launch a rocket ya poopfuck? HAHA

[Anonymous No.15385620]

>>15385611
You simply nuke the landing site to fuse the silicates for a hard pad. Collegially known as glassing.

[Anonymous No.15385621]

>>15385576
That's the thing anon, there won't be a flame trench.

[Anonymous No.15385622]

>>15385605
Launches on either Mars or the Moon will not involve Superheavy.

[Anonymous No.15385623]

Realistically, is there any hope for Skylon to ever happen?

[Anonymous No.15385624]

van drove off

[Anonymous No.15385625]

>>15385554
>isnt it dangerous near the OLM
No. It would remain standing with all the foundations gone. The legs are enough support.

[Anonymous No.15385627]

>>15385623
No. They fucked up their maths and never recovered, because without some scifi memetech, sstos don't make sense on earth.

[Anonymous No.15385628]

>>15385623
no, stop being british (and thus hoping for a domestic launch platform)

[Anonymous No.15385630]

>>15385470
It's on the same scale as the Chernobyl explosion (30-300GW).

[Anonymous No.15385632]

>>15385623
The UK's only hope for a domestic launch provider is buying Virgin Orbit.

[Anonymous No.15385633]

>>15385588
Look on the bright side:
1) They HAVE to launch this year or they are fucked for the moon contract.
2) We're going to get a lot more funny memo leaks
3) They pre-emptively demolished the site that they would have to rebuild and re-configure anyways.
4) With all the beetles and ocelots gone, SpaceX can finally get to work.

[Anonymous No.15385634]

>>15385611
>>15385622
Yeah, no shit, I know that. But you're implying the first Starship to Mars would already have a prepared platform for it to land on. How are you going to move a Starship on Mars, just so you can lay down a steel mat?

[Anonymous No.15385637]

Bros what gpa in college do i need to work at spacex
I heckin love space so frickin bad …

[Anonymous No.15385638]

>>15385633
no risk to wildlife if there is no wildlife
"mistakes" happen
>This was a good day in more ways than one t: Musk

[Anonymous No.15385639]

>>15385637
go to the gym

[Anonymous No.15385640]

>>15385637
lrn2weld

[Anonymous No.15385642]

[Anonymous No.15385643]

>>15384956
probably stupid question, but would that amount of condensation in the OP create a non-insignificant amount of drag that could potentially reduce performance?

[Anonymous No.15385644]

>>15385633
This isn't hopium this is copium, Artemis III isn't in 2026 even

[Anonymous No.15385645]

>>15385637
their dropdown menu doesn't even go below 3 for it so I can't apply in the first place

[Anonymous No.15385646]

[Anonymous No.15385647]

Clear is making it bros.
https://twitter.com/Hoshinavi/status/1649717528414011393

[Anonymous No.15385648]

>>15385642
Can't believe this shit flew lol

[Anonymous No.15385649]

[Anonymous No.15385650]

>>15385054
roman concrete was specifically designed to allow rocket launches so you might be onto something

[Anonymous No.15385652]

>>15385637
just be smart in the interview
>>15385645
kek

[Anonymous No.15385653]

I miss pre BO Sierra Space Station kino

This also seems pretty high up for a LEO station

[Anonymous No.15385655]

>>15385647
Good for her. It's inevitable that Elon will acknowledge her one day.

[Anonymous No.15385656]

Where are all of the pictures of dead fish and birds washed up on the shore?

[Anonymous No.15385658]

>>15385653
>more cgi
dont care unless its already being manufactured and ready to go. sick of this constant concept shit.

[Anonymous No.15385659]

[Anonymous No.15385662]

>>15385647
utsukuria

[Anonymous No.15385663]

>>15385659
K
I
N
O

[Anonymous No.15385664]

>>15385659
before liftoff

[Anonymous No.15385666]

>>15385647
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Clearchan is a cute

[Anonymous No.15385667]

>>15385659
now that is a picture

[Anonymous No.15385668]

>>15385655
dearmoon 2

[Anonymous No.15385671]

HOPIUM DELIVERY)
Three engines out at launch probably means it blasted way more concrete than it was supposed to, staying on the pad longer than it should've causing more engine outs. Once the water/LN2 cooled steel plate-flame diverter amalgam part is installed along with a massive deluge system, we are absolutely set to withstand Starship blasts, this launch it was moreso the gas/exhaust fumes getting under the concrete and shattering/lifting everything instead of the normal erosion (this will be fixed next time around). The plate is already 3 months in the making and on the flame diverter side we saw parts shipped there about 2 weeks ago, could also have started being made about then or even earlier. They also have experience in rebuilding pads, all the engines are massively improved on B9/S26 compared to the old ass R2s used in B7/S24. This and the stages themselves also have like a hundred improvements, and they have launch data to fix what is needed. The only thing I would be any bit doomer about next launch is anything past MECO, even then we have B10/S27 basically ready to go after in just a few months prep, which will have even more improvements than the last and more data to work with. There were barely any tiles that fell off, even in the massive fucking stress test of multiple flips and it still didnt blow up until FTS forced it to. I would also like to remind you as per Eric Berger's sources, a retired senior SpaceXer said 4-6 months easily, and he hasnt been there for a bit, they know what they're doing and gained shit tons of experience, Elon said 1-2 months so even in between the two that’s 3-4 months. Doomers are retarded and just listen to whatever the dumb fuck CSI Starbase says when he's continually been BTFO on dates and predictions. The ONLY thing to worry about on the ground is the FAA, and they already looked at what Starship can do, the next launch license approval will probably be even quicker, remember it can be modified for S26/B9

[Anonymous No.15385672]

>>15385659
This one wins

[Anonymous No.15385673]

The stairs are not okay

[Anonymous No.15385675]

>>15385666
Death to clear cucks, those digits clearly also indicate you are Satan, all clear posters are devils.

[Anonymous No.15385679]

Oh God make the smallsats die out

[Anonymous No.15385681]

>>15385675

[Anonymous No.15385683]

>>15385666
its clear

[Anonymous No.15385684]

>>15385623
2060

[Anonymous No.15385686]

>blew the launch pad
>blew the engine
>blew the cameras
This is amazing kek

[Anonymous No.15385687]

>>15385230
>ESL community
Dude, that's a fucking bona fide communist. To call him retarded would be a pleonasm.

[Anonymous No.15385688]

>>15385666
she is gorgeous and full of joy

[Anonymous No.15385691]

>>15385380
>this vid also has the buzzing
what is it?
multiple streams have had it for the past couple days and it's clearly local to the launch site

[Anonymous No.15385692]

ahem.
clear(ly a man)

[Anonymous No.15385693]

>>15385416
Two thin layers of rolled steel if I remember correctly. Doesn't need big chunks to make dents like that, just force.

[Anonymous No.15385695]

>>15385658
I'm glad its being taken seriously, this is very much not the norm

[Anonymous No.15385698]

>>15385679
Why would you put boosters on a smallsat launcher?
Half of the field of smallsat launchers was just pruned. Vaya is a meme and probably a scam. We're getting there, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.15385700]

>>15385691
It's the noise of the tank farm. It always sounds like that

[Anonymous No.15385702]

>>15385692
Get some help.

[Anonymous No.15385701]

>>15385380
The Taliban will pay for this

[Anonymous No.15385705]

>>15385473
Ariane is designed by committee and built by committee. Every fucking nation that has paid into ESA has one or more aerospace company making parts for it. That's why it will always be delayed and quirky at first.
The last time burgers designed and built a launch vehicle by committee, you got the shuttle and look how that worked out.

[Anonymous No.15385707]

/pol/ tourists and not being able to distinguish a woman when they see one, name a better duo

[Anonymous No.15385708]

>>15385679
>so its uh... a 3u cube sat from the university of africa, designed to measure racism and incorporates the latest ai from the university of europe to find it and also measure how climate change worst affects the indigenous peoples of somewhere who didn't even know they were being oppressed
they're building a business around this rather than thinking of things to do in space with a 150 ton payload per launch.

[Anonymous No.15385709]

Elon flew the cosmos black, in twenty thirty -ACK!

[Anonymous No.15385712]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

Zooms happening on tower, also spaceX drone also inspecting tower, cool shots

[Anonymous No.15385714]

>>15385464
Fuel temperatures differ from the former and the two latter rather drastically. Even more so on Starship since methane is close to the temperature point of LOX.

[Anonymous No.15385716]

[Anonymous No.15385715]

>>15385702
You should remember that there are no women on the internet. It's very important to prevent the unfortunate creation of simps like yourself.

[Anonymous No.15385718]

What's next for Starship after they solve the Raptors, separation, OLM etc.? Reentry test?

[Anonymous No.15385719]

>>15385681
kys pedophile /vt/umor

[Anonymous No.15385721]

https://twitter.com/Megaconstellati/status/1649855713110372352

https://techcentral.co.za/starlink-in-south-africa-balls-not-in-our-court-icasa-says/224778/

> The Electronic Communication Act requires individual ECS and ECNS licence applicants or licensees to have a minimum 30% equity ownership held by persons from historically disadvantaged groups, which includes black people, women, youth and people with disabilities. This may be the requirement that SpaceX – and Musk – baulked at. SpaceX did not answer an e-mail from TechCentral seeking further clarity.

[Anonymous No.15385722]

>>15385707
>see one
>see
>see a vtuber
Just admit you're attracted to a man using a cartoon avatar and voice changer

[Anonymous No.15385723]

>>15385681
based clear moment

[Anonymous No.15385729]

>>15385715
I don't simp for /vt/umors. I just really hate you furries.

[Anonymous No.15385731]

>>15385721
for fucks sake (ffs)

[Anonymous No.15385732]

>>15385718
well the next two starships don't have heat tiles, but yeah I guess

[Anonymous No.15385733]

If this is what one launch does, Boca Chica will be nothing but sand and rock by the third. Genius strategy, sterile desert is perfect for launch sites, take Baikonur as an example. Musk really has thought of everything.

[Anonymous No.15385735]

is across the airless wilds a good book

[Anonymous No.15385736]

>>15385653
>This also seems pretty high up for a LEO station
Nah
>The term LEO region is also used for the area of space below an altitude of 2,000 km (1,200 mi) (about one-third of Earth's radius).
I would be glad to see the back of Earthhugging orbits for stations tbph

[Anonymous No.15385737]

>>15384985
elementary school level

[Anonymous No.15385740]

>>15385230
What he said is 100% true though.

[Anonymous No.15385741]

spess is kewl

[Anonymous No.15385743]

is anon gonna upload a non-jpeged to fuck version of this?

[Anonymous No.15385742]

>>15385721
Wasn't Elon born in SA? Doesn't that qualify as 100% ownership?

[Anonymous No.15385744]

[Anonymous No.15385748]

>>15385743
Kill yourself weeb.

[Anonymous No.15385750]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRdp1tyUUF0

NSF commentary stream starting, usually its so insufferable that I can't listen to more than a few seconds, but maybe they can stop being faggots for a few seconds

[Anonymous No.15385754]

>>15385742
he isn't in a "historically disadvantaged group"

[Anonymous No.15385755]

[Anonymous No.15385757]

>>15385743
lmao thats hilarious, I want it too

[Anonymous No.15385758]

>>15385464
It did.

[Anonymous No.15385760]

>>15385729
>No Rebuttal
>I'll call him a furry!
I hate furfags, fuck off. You must now admit that clear is not, and cannot be a women.

[Anonymous No.15385764]

Who the fuck cares about what clear's real gender is

[Anonymous No.15385765]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92kaktSJLXk

[Anonymous No.15385766]

>>15385760
Did you listen to her sing, if not then you can't have an opinion on this

[Anonymous No.15385767]

>>15385744
i just don't understand this reusable lauch pad meme

[Anonymous No.15385770]

Remember what to do with trolls bros. Dont reply! They get no (You)s and you can enjoy the tantrum

[Anonymous No.15385772]

>>15385744
What was once a lush rainforest has been stripped down to the subsoil. Incredible :0

[Anonymous No.15385775]

https://twitter.com/nik_lovell/status/1649760298394329088

[Anonymous No.15385776]

>>15385721
>open local company reselling starlink service
ez

[Anonymous No.15385777]

>>15385744
Not a beetle in sight. Just people living in the moment

[Anonymous No.15385784]

[Anonymous No.15385785]

>>15385764
>>15385766
It's very important that clearfags face the mirror and admit to themselves the simple fact that there are no women on the internet. You can squirm all you want, but there's no getting away from it.

[Anonymous No.15385791]

>>15385775
looks black

[Anonymous No.15385792]

>>15385785
stop replying to obvious advertisement and just report it

[Anonymous No.15385793]

>>15385785
It's 2023, women are earning all the money on the internet

https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/document/ranking

[Anonymous No.15385795]

>>15385533
spacex is a kino-maximizer

[Anonymous No.15385797]

>>>/vt/

[Anonymous No.15385803]

>>15385765
> pril 22, 2023: Today, I'm headed back to Starbase after Starship's Orbital Flight Test-1 that took place on April 20, 2023.

>Come along with me to see what it's like to return to the places we know so well, after a launch!

the stream is really laggy though

[Anonymous No.15385816]

>>15385498
>skimp
at the test facility? yeah lmfao

[Anonymous No.15385822]

>>15385816
not a very good test facility if it takes a year to rebuild the test infrastructure every time

[Anonymous No.15385825]

>>15385822
did the FAA ban them from buying more concrete?

[Anonymous No.15385826]

total camera death https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1649843591160684546

[Anonymous No.15385829]

>>15385825
the problem isn't lack of concrete

[Anonymous No.15385830]

Rocketry is easy
Atmosphere is hard

[Anonymous No.15385831]

>>15385547
Alright, who sharted on that tower?

[Anonymous No.15385832]

>>15385547
Jesus look at the tank farm

[Anonymous No.15385834]

>>15385825
it's entirely possible

[Anonymous No.15385835]

>>15385647
Congratulation

[Anonymous No.15385837]

>>15385547
Starship: Braap Queen

[Anonymous No.15385840]

pretty sure a flame diverter deep and wide enough to actually be useful would start sinking pretty quickly

[Anonymous No.15385842]

>>15385832
It's not an abuse relationship, says the tank. "I made him mad, it was my fault"

[Anonymous No.15385844]

>>15385842
*her

[Anonymous No.15385846]

>>15385744
soon to reach levels of ESG hound seethe that shouldn't be possible

[Anonymous No.15385856]

>>15385846
surely he's having the time of his life right now?

[Anonymous No.15385858]

>>15385673
they're fine just get in there with a broom

[Anonymous No.15385863]

>>15385840
those have been known to sink to the core of the earth if you're not careful

[Anonymous No.15385869]

>>15385856
I think he's legitimately enraged by SpaceX's environmental impact. People like that let things like this get to them

[Anonymous No.15385873]

>hurrrrr SpaceX is putting a дeзинфopмaция-spin on the explosion!!!!!!
Berger stop replying to these people baka

[Anonymous No.15385876]

>>15385873
Berger is a seething SpaceX stan

[Anonymous No.15385877]

>>15385863
if you built one in swampland? think they'd need to make it even bigger too since it would be for starship

[Anonymous No.15385881]

The Mars Society today congratulated SpaceX for the first flight test of its fully reusable Starship space launch system. The test flight, which for the first time launched the Starship upper stage integrated with its Superheavy booster, was, by a factor of two, the most powerful rocket launch in human history.

Lasting over three minutes, the flight test revealed numerous issues with the system, including insufficient protection of the launch infrastructure, failures during launch or flight of eight out of the Superheavy’s 33 Raptor engines, and failure of the system to separate the Starship from the Superheavy as designed. These issues can now be corrected in preparation for the next flight test.

Commenting on the test, Mars Society President Dr. Robert Zubrin said “The Starship test flight today was a remarkable achievement. The vehicle was able to survive numerous subsystem failures to make it through Max Q and all the way to stage separation, thereby providing a wealth of data to SpaceX engineers to now correct and then move forward.

“SpaceX’s methodology is to build, fly, crash, and fix what went wrong, then try again, each time pushing further into the flight envelope. On its first try, Starship made it halfway through its flight envelope. It may take them a few more tries before they make it all the way and become fully operational, finally achieving the dream of cheap access to orbit. But they will do it.

“And when that day comes, the human race will be halfway to anywhere.”

[Anonymous No.15385883]

Behold, the ABSOLUTE WORST TAKE I have ever seen. What a terrible days to have eyes.
This is pure rage bait so don't look

[Anonymous No.15385885]

>>15385869
as he lives in a city that completely nuked the ecology of the area

[Anonymous No.15385886]

>>15385869
Is this a joke

[Anonymous No.15385887]

>>15385873
yeah the existence of a flight plan (if things went perfectly) seems to really resonate with the anti-musk soys. oh well not like anyone should be surprised at how deranged this world is. at least I know they're highly likely to be vaxxed and continue to get vaxxed

[Anonymous No.15385890]

>>15385744
what happened here? Nuke dropped?

[Anonymous No.15385892]

>>15385883
oh we're adding up the whole program costs? now do sls/orion/egs

[Anonymous No.15385895]

>>15385883
Twitter aside what's the best estimate we have on starship costs

[Anonymous No.15385899]

>>15385895
a couple billion in development so far. I think musk said like 10 billion would be a good 'total'? Might be wrong

[Anonymous No.15385909]

>>15385899
>10 billion for entire starship program
>spend 44 billion on twitter
i will never stop seething about this. imagine if that money went to starship.

[Anonymous No.15385911]

>>15385909
he spent like 2 billion of his own money. The rest is loans and investment and crap.
More money doesn't magically make the program go faster

[Anonymous No.15385914]

>>15385911
Yes it does

[Anonymous No.15385916]

>>15385909
musk needed a way to vent his destructive urges. you should be glad he bought twitter to be the sacrifice

[Anonymous No.15385917]

>>15385911
elon could have just bought the whole starship with a loan and be done in months

[Anonymous No.15385920]

>>15385643
Aero drag forces aren't a major factor for a rocket this big. Gravity "drag" is the main killer.

[Anonymous No.15385923]

>>15384966
I like the guy, but this photo is so fucking staged. They always are, but at least make it feels like it isn't.

[Anonymous No.15385924]

>>15385744
it actually looks like a bomb went off kek

[Anonymous No.15385925]

>>15385923
It's funny tho

[Anonymous No.15385929]

>>15384956
>V2
isn't that a bit odd to show off

[Anonymous No.15385931]

>>15385890
Raptors took the land with them to space

[Anonymous No.15385932]

>>15385929
meant to reply to >>15384966

[Anonymous No.15385935]

>>15385883
>didn't destroy its launch pad
I've got news for that faggot...

[Anonymous No.15385937]

>>15385909
It kinda sucks, but there should be enough money in Elon's coffers. Realistically it would be better if it was a mega project. But you can't cross that amount of red tape.

[Anonymous No.15385938]

Guys, should I help NSF buy a new car? they do such great work

[Anonymous No.15385942]

https://youtu.be/ub1J9tI7_Dk

[Anonymous No.15385947]

>>15385886
no

[Anonymous No.15385952]

Nobody except America can colonize space. It makes me wonder if anyone will ever be able to challenge America- once you have that first mover advantage for spaceflight everybody will be sucking on their teat for the foreseeable future of humanity.

[Anonymous No.15385956]

>>15385883
>"Against all the crabs that Earth can conjure, all the envy that mankind can produce, we will send unto them... only you. Rip and tear, until it is done."

[Anonymous No.15385959]

>>15385942
terrible music

[Anonymous No.15385963]

>>15385952
Colonies will be independent from earth governments

[Anonymous No.15385966]

>>15385959
Better than that Civ 6 garbage

[Anonymous No.15385969]

>>15385963
Imagine believing this.

[Anonymous No.15385975]

>>15385952
The American culture and spirit will be the foundation of humanity's presence among the stars. All others will simply be history. This century will define the future of humanity, and it will be American.

[Anonymous No.15385984]

>>15385969
Ayo fuck King George III, bro.

[Anonymous No.15385986]

>>15385975
It's been trending this way for quite awhile. Kinda crazy considering the countless opportunities to fuck this up, but somehow we still fuckin end up on top. WGMI

[Anonymous No.15385987]

> mutts self sucking

[Anonymous No.15385997]

>>15384966
I need to know where Mr. Braun bought his shoes. Those double spots in the soles look cool.

[Anonymous No.15386001]

>>15384985
>three rings of fire
>I know! lets focus them on a bowl
how about just KYS and focus on women studies

[Anonymous No.15386004]

>>15386001
Based ESL bro? Rare

[Anonymous No.15386010]

>>15385969
How the fuck you going to tell me what I can and can't do from another planet lmao

[Anonymous No.15386013]

>>15385987

[Anonymous No.15386016]

>>15385721
>historically disadvantaged groups
>women, youth
Lmao what.
Why hasn't spacex fully embraced the clown pill and had half the men identify as masculine presenting trans lesbians yet?

[Anonymous No.15386017]

>>15386010
Cut off your shipments

[Anonymous No.15386019]

>>15385895
My est is <100m per full stack.

[Anonymous No.15386025]

>>15385966
because that's the only other fucking music on the entire fucking planet?
kill yourself retard

[Anonymous No.15386028]

>>15385909
It was worth the price to not lose another son

[Anonymous No.15386030]

WE GO TO AMERICA
FOR THE BENEFIT OF EUROPE!

[Anonymous No.15386031]

>>15386013
Hold on a second...

[Anonymous No.15386034]

>>15386025
Ok you pick a song that inspires

[Anonymous No.15386038]

>>15386016
The issue might be a bit personal for Elon.

[Anonymous No.15386039]

>>15385909
Realistically, if Elon Musk dumped $44B into the Starship program, all he would do is bloat the cost. There's only one licensed launch site and only so many people that can be working on it at once. There's already nearly 3 stacks worth of vehicles waiting. Any launch activity halts construction activity, and vice versa. Unless the US government grants SpaceX extraordinary regulatory permissions to expand launch operations, this is the fastest the program can go.

[Anonymous No.15386043]

>>15386030
but this is exactly what they did. they wanted to bring back gold to europe

[Anonymous No.15386044]

>>15386039
correct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s_law

[Anonymous No.15386047]

>>15386043
The nice thing about Mars colonization is there is no business case. It requires pure faith of the heart

[Anonymous No.15386049]

>>15386034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK0P1Bk8Cx4

[Anonymous No.15386052]

>>15386049
thanks dad

[Anonymous No.15386054]

>>15386043
Yeah but they did it to benefit Spain or England or whoever, not Europe as a whole. Space Race rhetoric is the same thing in a new era with new players.

[Anonymous No.15386057]

https://youtu.be/HLsxslb_lio
Bob Smith is a professional at talking at length while saying nothing

[Anonymous No.15386058]

OK I laughed

[Anonymous No.15386061]

>>15386052
actually just an F-14 admiring zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.15386062]

Why didn't just say fuck it and hot stage starship since it was going to blow up anyway

[Anonymous No.15386064]

>>15386054
What, are you telling me that space colonization won't actually help everyone on Earth and that it'll just be a comparatively small group of talented Americans?

[Anonymous No.15386065]

>>15386062
because it isn't in the code as a possibility. they don't have a 'light engines' button in Mission Control anon

[Anonymous No.15386068]

>>15386058
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.15386071]

>>15386064
God bless the USA

[Anonymous No.15386073]

>>15386068
its the shit they slap onto tanks to protect against explosives

[Anonymous No.15386077]

i'm excited for cosmicperspective footage bros

[Anonymous No.15386084]

>>15385623
ffs how many times does it have to be said that skylon was never a thing. It was a just a 'look at what COULD be done with these engines' concept

[Anonymous No.15386085]

So when do you think the first off-planet death will be? Artemis III or further out?

[Anonymous No.15386087]

>>15386077
Our savior

[Anonymous No.15386089]

>>15386085
Oops wrong pic

[Anonymous No.15386090]

>>15386085
suit failure on lunar surface

[Anonymous No.15386092]

[Anonymous No.15386099]

>>15386068
>>15386073
It's ERA, Explosive reactive Armor blocks. They explode whena ashiot hits them, and stop the projective from penetrating the vehicle. Hopefully.

The joke here is that the Ukrainians seem to put these things on everything. Well, the Russians, too.
But it's kinda funny when you see all these NATO vehicles that did not have ERA suddenly covered in these bricks because the Ukies just thought 'well why the fuck not?'

[Anonymous No.15386102]

>>15386085
One of the long duration Moon missions, or Mars transit.

[Anonymous No.15386104]

>>15385659
>>15386077
that's a lot of cameras that potentially got this same shot

[Anonymous No.15386108]

Russian post ISS station failure during gap in Soyuz return vehicle availability.

[Anonymous No.15386120]

Meanwhile at NASA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dak8uzKba4k

[Anonymous No.15386133]

>>15386120
gotta get that outreach cause our human spaceflight program consists of nothing exciting that draws people to it

[Anonymous No.15386136]

Not so fast, chuds.
http://fjordsofafrica.blogspot.com/2016/12/how-many-people-did-neil-armstrong-kill.html?m=1

[Anonymous No.15386137]

>>15385133
neither holy, nor roman

[Anonymous No.15386140]

>>15386136
This article is bizarre. Apparently a marine biologist astronaut is just as bad as shooting gook fighters down because of harming sea lions? wat

[Anonymous No.15386141]

>>15386039
Yeah, the best use of his money to speed up the Starship program is bribes

[Anonymous No.15386144]

>>15386136
Thank you for coming to my TED (Total Earther Death) talk.

[Anonymous No.15386147]

>>15386065
>they don't have a 'light engines' button in Mission Control anon
well they should

[Anonymous No.15386149]

>>15386136
>only 9 astronauts have actually killed people
Lame!

[Anonymous No.15386151]

billy noooo https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/billy-nolen-faa-departs/index.html

[Anonymous No.15386157]

>>15386151

[Anonymous No.15386164]

>>15386149
That's just the confirmed ones

[Anonymous No.15386165]

No Starship launch this year

[Anonymous No.15386168]

>>15386140
He's a "rationalist"/ethical altruist, they're retarded like that

[Anonymous No.15386169]

>>15385619
>I'm team Bezos now.
Good. And stay the fuck there in irrelevancy

[Anonymous No.15386171]

>>15385111
lmao literally no human should ever enter this death trap

[Anonymous No.15386173]

>>15386140
It’s the most bizarre thing I’ve ever read so I had to share.
>We know for certain that John Glenn shot down 3 planes, possibly representing 3 dead pilots, in addition to the unrecorded number of people he killed in ground attacks. (That distinction in how much they valued - and thus recorded - air kills versus ground kills is noteworthy.)
>And so every published combat record from the Vietnam War onwards merely reads that the person took part in "combat operations" or "flew combat missions". That euphemism could mean anything from blowing people up, to helping others blow people up, to flying in circles aimlessly for hours, just so long as it's done within an area where fighting is happening.
>Has hunting become less popular than half a century ago? That would fit increasing urbanisation trends. Are animal-killing astronauts as common as ever, and the PR people just keep that off their official profiles now? Or describe it with euphemisms that I'm not spotting, like "hiking" or something? Maybe. I still think there's a general inclination to kill, whether humans or non-humans, that should produce a correlation, but the unexpected big void in column 1 makes that hard to check. Good news if it's a realistic void, at least.
>And so it's weird that NASA has evidently chosen to hire so many astronauts on the basis that they've killed before. It means that someone once sat down and wrote that in as a job requirement, a positive trait for potential recruits to have. I doubt they worded it exactly that way, but they didn't do it that many times in a row, hiring several dozen candidates with combat experience, purely by coincidence. If nothing else, they haven't viewed it as a negative trait.

Would this guy refuse to hire people who’ve gone hunting? Does he think astronauts are superheroes?
Truly bizarre

[Anonymous No.15386178]

>>15385742
he is not an holy cow category for the race baiting cultists. S.african government is racist as fuck in general, forcing race quotas into everything while having Russia tier corruption issues compounded by the disintegrating state

Funniest part is that chud Musk is also the most well known and successful african in the world

[Anonymous No.15386183]

>>15385911
dont you know that is not how it goes. Evil king chud opened his personal safe and stacked 44 billion from it in 100 dollar bill stacks straight onto twitters conference room table.

That is what REALLY happened

[Anonymous No.15386191]

>>15385869
good thing their assmad seethe does not matter in the slightest

[Anonymous No.15386194]

>>15386173
>That distinction in how much they valued - and thus recorded - air kills versus ground kills is noteworthy.
Maybe because taking down a whole ariplane is a greater material loss to the enemy compared to shooting a ground soldier?
>a positive trait for potential recruits to have
Astronauts are going to be just a few centimeters away from a painful death, only a single mechanical failure can fuck up everything, and the whole experience is generally unpleasant. They need to have tough guts and be desensitised to the whole thing in order to endure space travel.

How retarded is the rest of this arcticle?

[Anonymous No.15386195]

>>15386171
and if another human tells you to go fuck yourself and still rides it to orbit?

[Anonymous No.15386197]

>>15386183
So, its all borrowed money? How else do you buy something? Hedging? Can you trade investments to buy Twitter?

[Anonymous No.15386200]

>>15386141
it is called lobbying in developed world anon

[Anonymous No.15386204]

>>15386197
no its all his personal money he stashed away in cash to avoid tax man

[Anonymous No.15386207]

>>15386085
Unironically I think basic Artemis missions will have no death, I don't see how any of the hardware could have a shuttle type failure. Oldspace is too scared of failing at anything.
I put my bet at a long stay Artemis mission or a comercial crewed vehicle (like a tourist space station).

[Anonymous No.15386208]

>>15386178
How many years until the historical revisionism starts claiming Elon Musk was a black man?

[Anonymous No.15386210]

>>15386047
The sad thing about Mars colonization is there is no business case, and this is why it won't actually happen in this century

[Anonymous No.15386218]

>>15386197
Elon musk asked the federal reserve to print him 44 bajillion simoleons

[Anonymous No.15386221]

>>15386210
it will happen when those with faith of the heart can afford to go, or be sponsored. just like the last time

[Anonymous No.15386234]

[Anonymous No.15386237]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfBcCLSQP-c

[Anonymous No.15386238]

>>15386210
The business case is the people on mars wanting products

[Anonymous No.15386243]

Imagine

[Anonymous No.15386247]

>>15386137
Still Roman engineering which in this context is what matters

[Anonymous No.15386249]

Roman concrete would have survived

[Anonymous No.15386253]

A Roman aqueduct could have diverted the flame.

[Anonymous No.15386259]

>>15386178
i see you posted the second most successful african

[Anonymous No.15386262]

https://www.youtube.com/live/1L6gHuWsyRI
talk about lunar power infrastructure

[Anonymous No.15386264]

[Anonymous No.15386268]

>>15386259
mansa musa?

[Anonymous No.15386270]

So 39A is presumably going to get fucked lol

[Anonymous No.15386272]

>>15386243
39 first stage engines...

[Anonymous No.15386274]

>>15385881
Mars society using chatgpt to write their blog posts?

[Anonymous No.15386280]

>>15386272
Oh shit I forgot that the updated Terran R had so many engines on the first stage

They can always proont more

[Anonymous No.15386285]

>>15386280
relativity will print 3 terran R per day at maximum capacity

[Anonymous No.15386287]

Why is this month so weak?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15386288]

>>15386287
SpaceX has been focusing elsewhere

[Anonymous No.15386293]

>>15386287
there are more 4 to go plus 3 NET April launches, it will at least tie with February

[Anonymous No.15386294]

>>15386268
It's Ogutu Mbeke also known as SsethTzeentach

[Anonymous No.15386297]

A roman salute would have agitated the masses

[Anonymous No.15386301]

>>15386287
>Total Bird Death in every column

[Anonymous No.15386302]

>>15386294
He sounds impressive

[Anonymous No.15386319]

[Anonymous No.15386322]

>>15386319
God its another chernobyl he has to be stopped

[Anonymous No.15386342]

>>15386319
Where are all the beetles? Are they all dead?

[Anonymous No.15386352]

>>15386319
>>15386342
We...we did it. The boca chica beetles...extinct...

[Anonymous No.15386373]

[Anonymous No.15386383]

>>15386373
Ansuini, knew it

[Anonymous No.15386385]

>>15386270
No? That's a silly assumption.

[Anonymous No.15386387]

>>15386373
I still think it is jarring how SS and SH don't visually fit with each other.

[Anonymous No.15386390]

>>15386270
Should've moved Falcon flights to a new pad and then put the Starship pad on 39A proper as God intended.

[Anonymous No.15386391]

>>15386387
what do you mean? theyre both grungy stainless steel tubes with the same diameter. you mean the corrugations at the top of superheavy?

[Anonymous No.15386396]

[Anonymous No.15386397]

>Starship is going to launch in a minimum of 6 months

[Anonymous No.15386398]

>>15386373
That's not what it looked like

[Anonymous No.15386430]

goodbye sfg

[Anonymous No.15386431]

>>15385035
Sure buddy.

[Anonymous No.15386436]

>>15385673
They still pass stringent Texas safety standards.

[Anonymous No.15386441]

>>15386430
don't do it anon

[Anonymous No.15386443]

>>15386391
I mean mainly the fins and the gridfins in the middle of the stack. It doesn't match well like the two stages of the Falcon 9 for instance.

[Anonymous No.15386446]

>>15385230
Kek what is the "ESL community", that's like seven billion people

[Anonymous No.15386450]

>>15386322

[Anonymous No.15386452]

>>15385664
How about using the arms to lift SS all the way up and retract once it starts moving up?

[Anonymous No.15386453]

>>15386446
And you’re all retarded

[Anonymous No.15386461]

/sfg/ remembers

[Anonymous No.15386465]

>>15385623
It is literally an investor scam to get money for engine development (which is going nowhere)

[Anonymous No.15386470]

>>15386461
I do miss him yeah. Hope his uni studies are going well. His nauka video was actually better than almost any other video on the topic because he covered the entire history

[Anonymous No.15386471]

[Anonymous No.15386473]

>>15385740
(citation need)

[Anonymous No.15386477]

>>15386453
Von Braun was ESL

[Anonymous No.15386478]

Does anyone know how much Falcon 9 flights cost SpaceX internally? I think I remember hearing about an $18/19 million internal cost confirmed by Shotwell at some point.

[Anonymous No.15386487]

>>15386477
Russians are gay.

[Anonymous No.15386488]

>>15386477
Honorary EFL.

[Anonymous No.15386494]

>>15386477
Yeah but he had slaves. It cancels out

[Anonymous No.15386497]

>>15386494
Do you have the slightest idea on how many people that would cancel out?

[Anonymous No.15386502]

>>15386497
No and I don't care.

[Anonymous No.15386504]

>>15386502
based

[Anonymous No.15386505]

>>15386477
It was a different era

[Anonymous No.15386506]

>>15386477
Germans are incapable of being ESLs because their language and national spirit flows effortlessly into English and (unlike the French) they are not too prideful to properly learn a new language.

[Anonymous No.15386517]

Who is most likely to build their commercial stations first?

Axiom is a given, but what about the other 3?

[Anonymous No.15386519]

>>15386517
Lockheed's station appears designed to single-manifest on a Falcon Heavy or Vulcan or Starship. If they don't choke on the development process they win by default.

[Anonymous No.15386535]

Holy shit /sfg/ is so dead, how many of you roped?

[Anonymous No.15386540]

>>15386535
Me. Typing this post with my last energy before I fade into unconsciousness.

[Anonymous No.15386541]

>>15386535
Why would I chat when there is nothing happening?
I see no point in wasting time discussing memetech and sci-fi dreams when I know none of it will happen during my life time.

[Anonymous No.15386543]

>>15386541
There's a quantized inertia test sat flying on Transporter-8.

[Anonymous No.15386545]

>>15386540
Rip anon, so anyways how hyped are you guys for OFT-2? I can’t wait these few months bros, I just want to see it GO GO GO GO!!

[Anonymous No.15386548]

>>15386543
It’s so sad that F9 launches are so boring

[Anonymous No.15386550]

>>15386517
Who are the players in this beyond Axiom?
But I think it would be easy for SeX even if they don't have official plans for it. They could just launch a Starship with life support and docking for the sake of developing their crew technologies.

[Anonymous No.15386553]

>>15386237
kino as hell anon, thanks for posting

[Anonymous No.15386555]

>>15386535
it is for the best

[Anonymous No.15386556]

>>15386543
That's two months away from now.
>>15386548
It's AMAZING that F9 launches became boring. It means it became common, and I can't wait for when everyone follows this path.

[Anonymous No.15386557]

>>15386550
Gravitics is promising.

[Anonymous No.15386560]

>>15386550
Locksneed-Fartin's design is basically the ass end of Gateway plus a TransHab and some nanoracks stuff.
Northrop Grumman's design is a flock of cygni.
Then there's Jeff's madness.

[Anonymous No.15386561]

>>15386550
Blurigon Orbital Queef
Nanoracks/Redwire Starlab
Axiom Space Station (ASS)
SpaceX "Just Leave a Starship in Orbit Bro"

[Anonymous No.15386571]

>>15385883
>twitter bio
>no blue checks
>ukraine flag virtue signals

[Anonymous No.15386581]

I'm now wondering if both SpaceX and NASA are thinking about starting serious design/redesign work for the proposed future LC-49, taking lessons learned from the OFT, and integrating proper raised concrete flame trench structures similar to what's at 39A and 39B. The cooled steel plate/deluge system they're going to install at Boca Chica could be a workable interim solution, but I would guess NASA would want something more durable in the long term. I believe the structures at 39A & 39B were originally built to handle rockets even more powerful than Saturn V.

[Anonymous No.15386589]

>>15386561
SpaceX’s stations would actually be that simple, simpleton

[Anonymous No.15386593]

>>15386581
Probably not until SpaceX physically demonstrates the capabilities of their full launch system.

[Anonymous No.15386594]

>>15386553

[Anonymous No.15386595]

>>15386589
If it's that simple, why isn't everyone doing it?

[Anonymous No.15386602]

>>15386561
>Just Leave a Starship in Orbit Bro"
I doubt they will want to do that when a reuse launch will be so cheap that the station might also be incredibly cheap mass produced station cells just maybe $10m each

[Anonymous No.15386610]

>>15386550
The realistic contentdors (those moving on to the next phases of contracts etc.) are Northrop, whose station is in that pic, Nanoracks/Voyager/Airbus (replacing Lockheed) Starlab, and BO/Sierra on Orbital Reef

Axiom was awarded a different contract than those contending for the commercial destinations contract

[Anonymous No.15386612]

Holy shit

[Anonymous No.15386619]

>>15386612
context pls

[Anonymous No.15386628]

>>15386619
pov: you're a beetle

[Anonymous No.15386631]

>>15386619
FBV

[Anonymous No.15386640]

>>15386610
I’m very skeptical of starlab just because lockmart pulled out. It’s not like they can’t make mistakes but one had to wonder why. Though i think a station that requires no assembly, just a single launch, is extremely based and redpilled. I think the heckin guardians will jump all over it, if it works

[Anonymous No.15386652]

any anons tryna catch the lyriads tn?

[Anonymous No.15386654]

>>15386619
>>15386628
kill beetles, behead beetles, smush beetles with spalled concrete, slam dunk a beetle larva into the trash can, crucify filthy beetles, defecate into beetles habitat, launch beetles into the sun, stir fry beetles in a wok, toss beetles into active cryovolcanoes, urinate into beetles spawning grounds, peel the wings off of beetles, twist beetles heads off, report beetles to the FAA, slap-chop beetles in half, curb stomp pregnant beetles, trap beetles in quicksand, Crush beetles in the trash compactor, liquify beetles in a vat of acid, eat beetles, dissect beetles, exterminate beetles in the gas chamber, stomp beetles
with steel-toed boots, cremate beetles in the oven, spray beetle habitats with DEET, mandatory extinction for beetles, grind beetle larvaes in the garbage disposal, drown beetles in fried chicken grease, vaporize beetles with a raptor engine, feed beetles to birds

[Anonymous No.15386661]

>>15386654
someone leave this as a comment on the next launch license

[Anonymous No.15386662]

>>15386654
TOTAL BEETLE DEATH!!

[Anonymous No.15386664]

>>15386619
Hit Piece from WEF

[Anonymous No.15386670]

>>15385051
Lol, Natsoc and Fascist groups like National Justice Party and Patriot Front literally have their URLs for their websites completely banned from twitter. Elon definitely is not turning twitter into "nazi central".

[Anonymous No.15386675]

(You)

[Anonymous No.15386676]

>>15386670
NJP and PF are feds. Banning them to keep them from entrapping people on Twitter is turbo based.

[Anonymous No.15386678]

>>15386676

[Anonymous No.15386683]

rare good quads outside esefjee
>>15386666

[Anonymous No.15386685]

>>15385436
tower, especially the upper half, looks remarkably fine

[Anonymous No.15386688]

>>15386654
kek

[Anonymous No.15386691]

We’re back B11 bros

[Anonymous No.15386692]

>>15386685
Superheavy protected it from the concrete

[Anonymous No.15386698]

>>15386691
How long do you think until they assemble this sucker? Also, remember that a Raptor engine is completed every single day.

[Anonymous No.15386705]

>>15386676
They're not going to go anywhere, but out of all the far right groups they probably have the least amount of feds because they refrain from violence and guns. But they'll die of irrelevance within 5-10 years regardless, like all radical groups in America, far left or far right, always end up doing.

[Anonymous No.15386710]

>>15386705
Anyways, anybody who thinks Elon is "right wing" or "far right" is completely retarded. He's just a liberal from 12 years ago. At most he moved to the center-right and is now a libertarian/classical liberal instead.

[Anonymous No.15386717]

Front page of reddit. Probably my absolute favorite EDS post in years. The detailing is just exquisite, like a fine marbled steak

[Anonymous No.15386723]

>>15386717
Reddit "derangement" is merely the result of 51% being able to fully control the narrative due to their retarded upvote/downvote system.

[Anonymous No.15386724]

>>15386717
Not reading your seethe post. GB2R,l and stay there

[Anonymous No.15386728]

can the redditor go right the fuck back and stay there this time

[Anonymous No.15386730]

>>15386728
Fucking thank you, retards like >>15386723 encourage these niggers by not telling them to fuck off

[Anonymous No.15386731]

>>15386728
while we are at it, eldos posters can also go back

[Anonymous No.15386736]

>>15386731
Your tears are so succulent

[Anonymous No.15386746]

>>15386197
He sold tesla stock to finance the buy with the help of co-i vestors and twitter itself taking 13 billion in high interest debt in a transaction known as a leveraged buyout (LBO)
And Im pretty sure the contribution from musk was much more than 2 billion, something closer to 15 billion but this should be relatively easy to google

In any case, it doesnt really matter, retards here seem to genuinely believe musk buying twitter is taking away money from spacex or somethibg that he could have used on spacex
Not really the case, you cant just throw money at a peovlem and expect it to go better/faster. After a certain amount its just wasting money, might even make things slower

[Anonymous No.15386747]

>>15386736
oink oink, have you donated to nsf today? they might need a new car

[Anonymous No.15386749]

>>15385647
She's gonna make it big time

[Anonymous No.15386750]

>>15386728
I was here before you. I just check the front page so I can fit in with 20 something normies every once in a while

[Anonymous No.15386751]

can we start delayposting again?

[Anonymous No.15386753]

>>15386746
All the most motivated talented engineers already work at SpaceX, or burnt the candle at both ends to be replaced by a top level graduate who does the same. The only thing SpaceX could do with more money is buy out a small country to launch from.

[Anonymous No.15386757]

>>15386751
No, think positive.

[Anonymous No.15386761]

>>15386654
I support this message, TBD

[Anonymous No.15386765]

Board stats are here, Crew Demo-2 got 11k posts for referrence

[Anonymous No.15386778]

>>15386765
this I somewhat expected. hunan spaceflight from US soil for the first time in a decade was a big deal. plus covid meant more are available to shitpost. /sfg/ was more fresh back then generally, just over a year old. Artemis 2 could conceivably tie it, Artemis 3 will surely beat it, if /sfg/ even around by then

[Anonymous No.15386789]

>>15386778
>>15386765
I think the scrub the previous day also hurt the stats. I don’t think people were inclined to show up for the second attempt if they did for the scrub

[Anonymous No.15386797]

starship has too much power

[Anonymous No.15386799]

>>15386749
Fuck off pedo

[Anonymous No.15386800]

>>15386765
What will have more attention here: Artemis II or the first crewed Starship test?

[Anonymous No.15386801]

>>15385525
was that water seeping from the ground or did it rain?????????

[Anonymous No.15386802]

>>15386789
which are you talking about? Demo 2 scrubbed too

[Anonymous No.15386803]

>>15386801
The water table is really high

[Anonymous No.15386804]

>>15386800
Neither will have much I don’t think, but I don’t think there will be a crewed starship launch. Not for fucking ages anyway. I think it’ll actually be easier for them to do post launch transfer via dragon, for mainly regulatory reasons but also engineering reasons. It’s delightfully counterintuitive and the best part is no part etc

[Anonymous No.15386813]

>>15386077

THE ROCKS ARE LEVITATING

[Anonymous No.15386820]

>>15386800
the funny answer would be that we'll all be gone by the time Starship crew happens, but if the last decade has proven anything, don't forget, you're here forever

[Anonymous No.15386822]

>>15386804
I too think it will take quite a few years for Starship to get into actual operations, but some people here get angry if you point that out.

[Anonymous No.15386824]

>>15386800
in order from least to most, Polaris 1, Polaris 3, Dearmoon, Artemis 2, Artemis 3. i'm actually not sure where dearmoon would fit. kindve a wildcard

[Anonymous No.15386829]

>>15386800
Mars 2026 crewed missions

[Anonymous No.15386830]

>>15386804
yeah
that is going to increase the cost of crew operations with Starship a lot in the interim though
and I mean what about dearMoon? You have to have at least 2 separate crew launches? People are going to wait in the Starship for one day or something for the rest of the people to get in?

[Anonymous No.15386831]

>>15386824
makes sense
dearmoon and artemis 2 might be in a different order, but artemis 2 is probably happening before dearmoon so that might make it less interesting to the general public, but dearmoon is going to be full of random faggots ("normal people") and some celebrities which might give it a lot of attention

I mean if you compare the interest of SLS first launch vs Starship first orbital test, I would say the latter had way, way more interest

[Anonymous No.15386834]

>>15386237
saved, knew about OTRAG but not this film. Also reminded me of my time in Bremen working in an ESA company, but progress was deathly slow. Nevertheles some Germans were really keen to progress space flight.

[Anonymous No.15386837]

>>15386765
4am UTC... isn't that several hours before the launch?

[Anonymous No.15386839]

2 more months

[Anonymous No.15386849]

>>15386837
it's totals posts for that day

[Anonymous No.15386853]

>>15386822
I think starship will be launching starlinks Soontm but other stuff is later down. I really just don’t see why you’d launch crew on starship right now.
>>15386830
Yeah dearmoon is the one thing that gives me pause. Idk. There are more important things for them to solve first but part of me thinks that stage sep and other starship specific architecture doesn’t make sense if you want it to launch crew.
Unironically build a manned starship, launch it empty, and then while refueling it in orbit send some guys on a dragon to man it. And do the same again to get them home. Probably safer and with less red tape than trying to put people on it, and it’s already what they’re doing for Moonship (but Orion instead of dragon and in a different orbit, obviously)

But they’ll also have to do a version of starship that can launch with crew eventually for a mars mission. I’m of the belief that starship represents the start of a family of vehicles that will be more or less specialized
>starlinkship
>tankership
>otherpayloadsship
>moonship
>marship
>marscargoship
>deepspaceprobeship
>deepspacecrewedship
Etc. you’re not doing bespoke designs but you’re not also doing something like wasting life support or tiles on a deep space probe delivery system

[Anonymous No.15386861]

>>15386853
I hope instead of trying to quantum leap everything to Starship, they integrate Dragon like you say. Throwing away the most advanced human rated vehicle to start from zero is silly.

[Anonymous No.15386864]

>>15386853
I think it's true for Starlink, and they will eventually start doing Super-Transporter missions with normal sized sats.
I'm honestly not sure if HLS SS will be ready for Artemis III, but Artemis might delay itself so much it will HLS will be ready by the time it is needed.
Deep space Starship is something we desperately need, I'm fucking tired of the years wasted with gravity assists for those probes, a cheap super heavy lift rocket for this purpose would revolutionize planetary science (SLS could deliver Europa Clipper in just 3 years)

[Anonymous No.15386870]

>>15386864
Deepspace starship is unironically more exciting for me than mars missions. Imagine even something like Europa clipper or dragonfly but designed from the ground up to utilize starship. The cost and development time savings alone are coom worthy, even before you contemplate the payload increase.

Artemis III will be delayed. The mobile launch system is an albatross, the fucking suits are an albatross, Gateway is an albatross and that’s beyond any issues with building that specific SLS itself. I genuinely think HLS is the absolute least of A3s problems. 2026 is optimistic at this point, IMO.
Whatever you do don’t look at the latest architecture for A4, btw. Total blackpill

[Anonymous No.15386872]

How many consecutive perfect landings would Starship need to have to be crew rated? Or is that not a factor?

[Anonymous No.15386874]

it looks like a fucking kaiju

[Anonymous No.15386876]

>>15386872
I think sperging about the lack of launch abort would be a bigger roadblock.

[Anonymous No.15386880]

>>15386799
Fuck on ;)

[Anonymous No.15386881]

>>15386876
if you ignore NASA and just wanted to do private crew flights, wouldn't the requirements be less strict?
basically just signing a waiver or something

[Anonymous No.15386882]

>>15386872
idk maybe show the ability to land with one engine out

[Anonymous No.15386884]

>>15386654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QmvEbphF8c

[Anonymous No.15386889]

>>15386874
the tilt was unnerving if you didn't know it was an intentional maneuver to avoid torching the tower QD

[Anonymous No.15386900]

>>15386881
Yes, blowing up a dozen spaceflight participants would be a very bad look and you'd kill the industry. I wouldn't put it past Musk to yolo it like he did the pad.

[Anonymous No.15386909]

>>15386874
It simply is so fucking big. I am in awe

[Anonymous No.15386915]

>>15385935
Expendable launch towers

[Anonymous No.15386916]

>A summer day on Mars may get up to 70 degrees F (20 degrees C) near the equator, but at night the temperature can plummet to about minus 100 degrees F (minus 73 degrees C).
balmy. respirator and speedos weather.

[Anonymous No.15386918]

>>15386717
reddit niggers

[Anonymous No.15386919]

[Anonymous No.15386923]

>>15386916
the no atmospheric pressure thing might be a bit uncomfortable even with 20C

[Anonymous No.15386924]

>>15386919
really, what did all expect to happen?
>oh its a rocket twice as powerful as saturn v just pointed at the floor
i mean really

[Anonymous No.15386925]

>>15386717
Fuck musk
EDIT: thanks for the gold kind stranger!

[Anonymous No.15386927]

>>15386919
Wow the SpaceX engineers are the dumbest engineers in the whole world. HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU? Nasa would fire them instantly.

[Anonymous No.15386928]

>>15386924
They expected it to damage the concrete below the launch mount you fucking retard. And indeed that's what happened

[Anonymous No.15386932]

>>15386928
look at the steel and pipe work, everythings fucked

[Anonymous No.15386934]

>>15386932
Dumb stupid retarded engineers. I bet I could do better than dumbass retard SpaceX engineers LOL. Elon should fire them all then kill himself, it's over. Bankruptcy imminent, the share price is through the fucking floor and his PR lackeys are scrambling as they lose control of the narrative

[Anonymous No.15386938]

S26 will be the final design, with no stupid flags.
The ammount of gimbal needed to compensate the aerodynamic lift of the flaps is waste. Just look at pic related, the AoA is stupidly high.
Also Starship wont be reusable. The tiles will keep falling off, and trajectory-wise it is just too difficult to guess where an unmanned cilinder of that size is going to land unless you burn a ton of fuel to induce a predictable fall (which defies the point of aerobraking).

Screencap this.

[Anonymous No.15386940]

>>15386932
the paper around the pipe is torn. that will take years to replace, maybe decades

[Anonymous No.15386942]

>>15386039
He could in theory fund parallel design and build efforts. That would most likely be a lot of money wasted for no speedup at all. He would also need to find a program director as likeminded as he, to not split his attention between the two.

[Anonymous No.15386945]

>>15386942
>fund parallel design and build efforts
oh just like bezos and blue origin. anyone got their tech tree? they are making amazing progress on all that, all at the same time.

[Anonymous No.15386947]

>>15386595
I already got the contracts I needed

[Anonymous No.15386949]

>>15386947
don't make me say the word shelby
D

[Anonymous No.15386950]

>>15386947
i hate you

[Anonymous No.15386952]

>>15386919
is the discoloration rust or something else?
if it's rust, is sea air really that corrosive that that amount of surface rust appears just 48 hrs of stripping the paint?

[Anonymous No.15386954]

>>15386952
there was so much heat it's oxidised everything. any critical mating parts, seals, machined surfaces - all gone.

[Anonymous No.15386956]

How can superheavy be reusable? Something that monstrous has no business being reusable

[Anonymous No.15386959]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1649947716602961921

[Anonymous No.15386963]

>>15386959
why are people like this, over and over and over, "why should we bother?", never expanding on the idea, never asking anything new.

[Anonymous No.15386967]

>>15386963
Because bill maher is just such a totally real gut bro he doesnt have time to think about bullshit bro, we need to get hillary in there, that's what are focus should be bro. this shit matters

[Anonymous No.15386969]

>>15386874
Yeah, thats what I saw when it rose from the plume. A fucking Kaijuu. Posted in last thread about it as well. It also doesn't help that Mechazilla name has primed me, but even without Mechazilla, I think the Kaiju can still be seen in the image.

[Anonymous No.15386971]

>>15386967
/sfg/ needs a dumbshit bingo card for all npc interactions
>why should we bother?
>think of the environment! (while eating a bigmac)
>we should fix our problems here on earth first

[Anonymous No.15386973]

kinda sucks that dongfang hour is just CCP propaganda. i thought it was an american taking an objective look at the chinese space industry. their content is mud

[Anonymous No.15386976]

>>15386971
lets start with decreasing liberals' carbon footprint by sentencing to the gas chamber. despicable misanthropic Earther SCUM

[Anonymous No.15386977]

>>15386959
it's going to be a disaster

[Anonymous No.15386978]

>>15386959
bill is actually an ally if you can believe that

[Anonymous No.15386980]

>>15386977
Their views are almost completely aligned. Except Bill is a childless boomer who just wants to lounge.

[Anonymous No.15386982]

>>15386973
Agreed. The language barrier is real as is the firewall. The only people talking about niche Chinese topics are 1 CCP shills 2 snake oil salesmen 3 high level financial advisors. It makes it hard to keep up as an autistic layman

Also talking to real Chinese people is fun sometimes. They say shit that western liberals refuse to because it would be “racist”
>yeah in mainland China there just isn’t a stigma against copying and stealing ideas
>yeah Chinese people tend to be lazy and will do a bad job, especially for foreigners, if you don’t keep a tight leash
>Chinese people fuck over foreigners on purpose, even foreign born Chinese.
>Yeah China has a problem with scam “startup” like companies that will just get money for fake knockoffs of western technology or apps and then run away with the money
>Yeah Chinese people kinda live in hovels in the cities and there’s not a lot of economic mobility and sometimes the government just repossess your whole neighbourhood to tear it down and forces you out.
>Yeah China has a real problem with organized crime and dirty cops
>yeah Chinese universities aren’t very good that’s why we’re over here
Etc.

[Anonymous No.15386996]

>>15386942
but where? that's the problem

[Anonymous No.15386997]

>>15386959
Centrists talk show. Something both sides of the isle can come together for.

It will trigger both sides at the same time on some issues tho.

[Anonymous No.15387010]

Heard astra got a $11 mill. contract from the US military recently. Is Astra actually gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.15387011]

>15387010
*?

[Anonymous No.15387012]

>>15386996
I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.15387013]

>>15387010
All launch companies are fucked and should pivot to tech like Habs, mining, farming, etc

[Anonymous No.15387014]

>>15387010
Yes. Eating weeds has paid off, and my life savings are saved. So glad I didn't go through with kms myself

[Anonymous No.15387017]

>>15386959
Maher signals what's cool and what's acceptable to be irreverent, critical, sympathetic etc about to the shitlib laptop/managerial class. They currently despise Musk, so if it's a good show maybe their LLM prompts get a bit of a reengineering, hopefully.

[Anonymous No.15387020]

>>15387017
Lol

[Anonymous No.15387021]

I wonder how the sheriff jannies who are there mostly just to shepherd traffic feel about their job.

[Anonymous No.15387034]

>>15387010
11mil, lmaaoo

[Anonymous No.15387035]

>>15387010
You know how tipping a waiter or valet a single dollar is somehow worse than not tipping them at all? Lmao

[Anonymous No.15387038]

>>15387021
pretty chill job

[Anonymous No.15387045]

https://www.youtube.com/live/AZfBSQtql5E
epic

[Anonymous No.15387046]

>>15387045
booba

[Anonymous No.15387047]

>>15386736
based janny

[Anonymous No.15387048]

>>15387046
Not a bad rack huh? Her face us kinda creepy but no doubt she's crazy in bed

[Anonymous No.15387051]

>>15387045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knrnm7mggzQ

[Anonymous No.15387054]

>>15387048
i doubt she is crazy with that broken femur

[Anonymous No.15387058]

>>15387054
how do you think she broke it, helloooo?

[Anonymous No.15387060]

>>15387058
i remember watching some videos a few years ago and she was kind of awkward, not as bad anymore
for instance the stream with zack golden was pretty good, at least the part that I saw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJuwOv4wsIw

[Anonymous No.15387073]

>>15387045
bros she literally sounds like she's orgasming during liftoff

[Anonymous No.15387113]

Apparently she does bodybuilding as well, not going to post the pics because its kind of off topic
http://twixpix.com/contests/EC21/EC21-BK-255a.html

there is also a coomer subreddit dedicated to her
https://www.reddit.com/r/elianasheriff/

[Anonymous No.15387114]

based rocket bimbo

[Anonymous No.15387133]

Lol. The best Astra can muster up for a launch is $11m? Pathetic

[Anonymous No.15387165]

>>15387133
Why do all these small corps still exist anyways. If they are 8 Years behind Falcon 9 launch price, why even bother?

[Anonymous No.15387167]

>>15386938
The AOA is high because of low TWR due to engine failures, the ship has to fight gravity more during the gravity turn.
If anything the flaps likely necessitate keeping the AOA in a tight range whilst still in the thicker part of the atmosphere, otherwise there is a risk of control loss from aerodynamic instability.

The tiles performed pretty well all things considered. The Space shuttle had to install a special water deluge system to prevent tiles from falling off as a result of reflected shockwaves.
Starship seemingly took much more violent forces, yet only a few tiles fell off.

Re-entry trajectory is completely fine, there is a wealth of control to adjust the landing point. Ballistic missile systems can land RVs within 100m with zero terminal control, Starship has terminal control, it's literally a non-issue.

[Anonymous No.15387169]

Astra will become Firefly-tier one day purely through meme magic. The fact that they're still not dead is evidence of their resilience.

[Anonymous No.15387173]

>>15386938
The flaps don't generate lift though. They're symmetrical. That's why they're in the "deployed" state at lift-off.

[Anonymous No.15387174]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YISAjRwnFqU

[Anonymous No.15387181]

>>15386923
Do we actually know what happens to the human body in a vacuum? Divers regularly handle transitions from 1 atm up to 10 atm. Why would 1 --> 0 atm be so much harder?

[Anonymous No.15387188]

>>15387181
are you familiar with the ideal gas law?

[Anonymous No.15387194]

liquids instantly boil off and air is quickly vented. you can extrapolate from there pretty easily
i guess exposed skin might be fine? but your vulnerable head definitely wouldn't

[Anonymous No.15387199]

>>15387188
Yes, what I'm asking about is the physiological effects of vacuum exposure
>>15387194
So if you're wearing a breather and goggles (or just lightweight helmet) it sounds like you'd be fine. Might need ass and urethra plugs too though

[Anonymous No.15387206]

>>15386683
>Good quads
>Retarded non sequitur climate denialism

I don't know how Pol tourists square being an Elon/SpaceX/NASA fanboy and believing climate nonsense that midwits like thunder foot can refute.

Elon's wealth and success is built largely on making an electric car company and NASA leads climate research.
This is borderline schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.15387219]

>>15385623
They got brought by BAE just after getting the pre-cooler working so the SABRE is likely already installed on UAFs that'll be declassified in 50 years.

[Anonymous No.15387222]

>>15387181
Yes we have examples of people exposed in vacuum chambers, as well as the autopsy of the Columbia shuttle crew.

If you hold air in your lungs you will suffer a severe pulmonary embolism that will likely cause severe internal bleeding.
If you allow the gas to escape, you will lose consciousness in seconds from the low oxygen environment.
At this point you can potentially be recovered and revived, as was the case with Jim Leblanc.
Then gradually over the minute timeframe the gas dissolved in the fluids of your body will bubble out causing ebulism inside of your tissues, causing permanent damage similar to the bends.

[Anonymous No.15387236]

>>15387199
I'm not actually sure it has even been tested, but any moisture on skin would boil off quickly too
I guess with adequate temperature and oxygen you might not die that quickly, but having turbo dry skin can't be nice
tried to find if animals were exposed to vacuum, but with oxygen provided, couldnt really find anything
but I mean the helmet would have to be pressurized? what about the interface with skin exposed to vacuum and pressurized helmet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO8L9tKR4CY

[Anonymous No.15387244]

>>15387206
Climate change from pollution is real, the solution a Nuclear grid has always existed, China and India make all climate austerity measures of the west mathematically pointless. Seize and divert all green fag grift to space it is all pointless.

[Anonymous No.15387250]

>>15386919
Needs to be 200 first world meters higher to protect the concrete pad.

[Anonymous No.15387259]

>>15387199
No you would need a gas mix that can adequately supply the human body with oxygen at 1% earth pressure, otherwise you end up with pressurised lungs that will damage your alveoli.

I don't think that's actually possible, IE 100% oxygen at 1kpa (mars pressure in the low lands) is still only 1/25 of sea level PO2, even the altitude of mount Everest has 10 times the amount of oxygen and only the Sherpas can go without oxygen tanks there.

[Anonymous No.15387284]

Kill the shuttle. Behead the shuttle. Roundhouse kick a Shuttle into the launch pad. Slam dunk a shuttle baby into the VAB. Crucify oldspace engineers. Defecate into a Shuttle's fuel. Launch the Shuttle into the sun. Stirfry a Shuttle in a wok. Crash the Shuttle into active volcanos. Urinate into a Shuttle's gas tank. Judo throw Shuttles into a scrap yard. Twist Shuttle's upper stage off. Report the Shuttle to the GAO. Karate chop shuttles in half. Curbstomp pregnant Shuttles. Trap shuttles in quicksand. Crush a shuttle in the trash compactor. Liquify shuttles in a vat of acid. Eat shuttles, dissect, exterminate shuttles, exterminate shuttles in the scrapyard. Crush Shuttles heat shields with steel toed boots. Lobotomize shuttles. Mandatory abortions for Shuttles. Grind Shuttle fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown shuttles in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Shuttles with a ray gun. Kick Shuttles down the stairs. Slice Shuttles with a Katana.

[Anonymous No.15387307]

Staging

>>15387305
>>15387305
>>15387305

[Anonymous No.15387308]

>>15384966
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVgCO8mRJo

[Anonymous No.15387380]

this thread will die without hitting 1000 :(

[Anonymous No.15387432]

>>15387174
Guy looks like he's going to kill himself

[Anonymous No.15387630]

>>15386822
>>15386804
Nobody gets angry saying crew starship won't happen until the very late 2020s, (like 2027-2029), its when people say crew starship won't ever happen that you just sound retarded.

[Anonymous No.15387700]

>>15387630
Anons in this general have been getting angry for years when you say things like
>SpaceX won't launch humans on Starship to Mars in the 2024 launch window

[Anonymous No.15387803]

>>15387432
His child died

[Anonymous No.15387887]

>>15385068
>I have never seen a pump

[Anonymous No.15387898]

>>15385224
Holy copium! They're showing up late to the party and in dirty clothes and claiming it's because they get laid too much

[Anonymous No.15387954]

>>15385485
Global warming has hit Hoth hard :-(

[Anonymous No.15387958]

>>15385531
I need to photoshop a gun into his hand

[Anonymous No.15387968]

>>15385588
Total Waiter Death!

Let me paraphrase one of the greatest men to ever live: If you say why not launch them tomorrow, I say why not today? If you say today at five o' clock, I say why not one o' clock?

[Anonymous No.15387971]

>>15385605
They won't use the booster on Mars, you absolute retard. Go eat paste somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.15387973]

>>15385619
>Team War Games: The only winning move is not to play

[Anonymous No.15387985]

>>15385623
You could make a spaceplane if you got wireless power transmission with high enough power density or a miracle fusion device, since you wouldn't need any onboard propellant until you got out of the atmosphere, but otherwise I don't see how or why you would do it

[Anonymous No.15388000]

>>15385777
Based beetle death cultist
There are no beetles on Mars

[Anonymous No.15388019]

>>15385987
Unfortunately no one else has the skills to do it right

Your bones and the bones of all your 98% refugee descendants, if you have any, will be buried on Earth under mountains of trash while the descendants of Americans fill first the solar system and then the galaxy. Seethe!

[Anonymous No.15388026]

>>15386057
Good fit for BO's accomplishments

[Anonymous No.15388039]

>>15385987
As American as baseball

[Anonymous No.15388044]

>>15386545
Very hyped! They're going to get this next one to Hawaii.

[Anonymous No.15388055]

>>15386654
t. the most beetle-friendly /sfg/ poster