/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15378175]

How scientific are these kinds of reconstructions? Seems hard to believe that the prettiest meme girl from the ancient world was so androgynous. And thats with statues and paintings to work off of, one can only presume that the dinosaur reconstructions are even less accurate.
Is this all just more of the scientists' bad habit of presenting non disprovable conjectures as legitimate science?

[Anonymous No.15378204]

>>15378175
idk she'd look pretty fine to me with a different haircut

[Anonymous No.15378402]

>>15378175
Your mother hates you. I can confirm this. I hope it makes you sleep better tonight.

[Anonymous No.15378463]

>>15378175
So the romans did like their femboy slaves

[Anonymous No.15378467]

>>15378175
They aren't scientific. You would not recognize the person based on that reconstruction. I know because I was there.

[Anonymous No.15378490]

>>15378175
why is she white in this

[Anonymous No.15378491]

>>15378175
>statues and paintings to work off of
>how scientific
Do you really need to ask? The answer is 0% scientific because it's based off art. Dinosaurs are reconstructed with their actual remains.

[Anonymous No.15378492]

>>15378490
she was ethnically Greek (from before they were polluted with Turk genes)

[Anonymous No.15378498]

>>15378492
the ancient greeks were black...

[Anonymous No.15378693]

>>15378498
no they were pure scandanavian

[Anonymous No.15378719]

>>15378498
Yup, just like Beethoven, Jesus, Newton, and Atila the Hun

[Anonymous No.15378789]

>>15378719
zackly

[Anonymous No.15378798]

>>15378175
>Seems hard to believe that the prettiest meme girl from the ancient world was so androgynou
Yeah. I don't get why people want so much to pretend that Cleopatra was actually ugly. When she met Caesar, she had literally nothing. She was just a young powerless exiled girl with no possessions whatsoever. Could she have seduced the most powerful man in the world being like that if she were ugly? Probably not. And after Caesar, could she have seduced Marc Antony, another one of the most powerful men in the world, if she were ugly? Probably not. In truth, she most likely was extremely charming, both in body and mind.

[Anonymous No.15379031]

>>15378798
Maybe they just liked petite tomboys.

[Anonymous No.15379354]

>>15378798
>In truth, she most likely was extremely charming, both in body and mind.

That's one way to phrase it. According to ancient sources she was extremely good at giving head.

[Anonymous No.15379423]

>>15379354
Ancient Rome held prostitutes in high regard. One of their emperors even worked as a male prostitute while on the throne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus
You will never get anyone to pay you for sex
>b-b-but muh iq
>*grabs brain*
>muh iq mugffugguh!!!
cringey cope, you will always be unattractive and too lazy & entitled to fix yourself up into someone that others want to be around.

[Anonymous No.15379438]

They're broadly scientific, but only if it's based on a cast of the skull. If it's just a model based on surviving art, you're basically just inventing an appearance based on what other artists felt was a good representation

Where it veers into artistry is where muscle, cartilage and tissue are concerned, since none of that survives. The best you can do is apply it to the bones using average anatomical measurements and see what you get out of that

[Anonymous No.15379522]

>>15378719
You forgot Napoleon, Catherine the Great, Hypatia, Davy Crockett, Hans Christian Anderson, Pythagoras, and Ramses III.

[Anonymous No.15379678]

androgynous people are scientifically more accurate

[Anonymous No.15379680]

>>15379678
attractive*

[Anonymous No.15379688]

>>15378175
>why does she look like this based on artwork made by people who actually saw her alive?
Gee, I fucking wonder.

[Anonymous No.15379699]

>ppl from 2000 years ago look exactly like people today do
are the scientists trying to say that evolution is fake?

[Anonymous No.15379710]

>>15379522
Based kangz

[Anonymous No.15379720]

>>15378498
Weak b8

[Anonymous No.15379763]

>>15379699
The only thing the last 10,000 years of evolution has given us is slightly better lactose tolerance.

Evolution is slow AF.

[Anonymous No.15380416]

>>15378175
why are greek/roman sculptures so well made when their paintings are so shit?

[Anonymous No.15380467]

>>15379763
but also woolly mammoths turned into elephants overnight at the end of the ice age.
evolution is slow when that fits the soience narrative and fast when the soience narrative demands it.
just a bunch of lies, you make it up as you go along

[Anonymous No.15380476]

>>15378175
this is now a tomboy supremacist thread

[Anonymous No.15380487]

>>15378175
She looks feminine to me, even pretty.

[Anonymous No.15381077]

>>15378175
any random actress from egypt today would probably a better match

[Anonymous No.15381102]

>>15378492
Macedonian, the whitest of greeks

[Anonymous No.15381113]

>>15378798
What does this mean for the effects of inbreeding? The media tries to convince us they're all hideous insane mutants.

[Anonymous No.15381157]

>>15378175
I would put so many babies in her womb.

[Anonymous No.15381162]

>>15380416
Because mapping three dimensions to three dimensions requires a lot less in the way of technique than mapping three dimensions to two dimensions.

[Anonymous No.15381164]

>>15381157
Are you her blood relative?

[Anonymous No.15381189]

>It's her

[Anonymous No.15381618]

>>15378175
>bust and painting are ugly
>reconstruction is a 10/10 white woman in the black continent

this is bait, porn bait. Not science.

[Anonymous No.15381692]

>>15381077
too much muslim admixture

[Anonymous No.15384199]

[Anonymous No.15384216]

>>15378175
All paintings and statues of Cleopatra were made after her death. The only contemporary image we have of her is from coins minted during her reign.

[Anonymous No.15384217]

>>15384216
What evidence is there of other ptolomies?

[Anonymous No.15384219]

>>15381618
>black continent
blacks only crossed the sahara as slaves

[Anonymous No.15384994]

>>15378498
>>15378719
>>15379522
George Washington, Thomas Edison, and Wernher Von Braun

[Anonymous No.15385521]

>>15378491

[Anonymous No.15386492]

Their filters made him look female for politics.
He was a young soft faced male in his youth. AI is often too dumb to figure out the difference.

[Anonymous No.15386501]

>>15378498
stop with this bullshit or i will pay a pack of feral cheddarmen to come pay you a visit.

[Anonymous No.15386939]

>>15384216
>big nosed chinlet
bad combo

[Anonymous No.15387040]

look what they've done to my tomboy

[Anonymous No.15388580]

>>15384994
>Wernher Von Brown

[Anonymous No.15388629]

>>15378175
>Seems hard to believe that the prettiest meme girl from the ancient world was so androgynous.
Royalty had a beauty advantage
>Hasn't got shit all over her

[Anonymous No.15388650]

>>15378175
>qt tomboy cleopatra

[Anonymous No.15388770]

>>15378175
>Is this all just more of the scientists' bad habit of presenting non disprovable conjectures as legitimate science?

Definitely, reconstructions function in the same thematic expression affiliated with astronomical analysis such false color images, age of astrological bodies via red shifting and the cosmological horizon. In theory reconstruction is used to approximate the accuracy of "likeness" of individuals.

But the problem is reconstruction often utilizes art (paintings/sculptures) and literature (1st or 3rd person accounts) to illustrate likeness. But people who view this often ignore the subjectiveness of artists who either felt pressure or admiration in the creation of portraits or sculptures. Thus it's possible rather than capturing authenticity of the tartget, they instead capture the idealized form and thus filter out imperfections or features that would be viewed unfavorably by the audience it's made for at the time.

There is also the fact that because reconstructions are trying to approximate likeness of people that are thousands of years old. A lot of reference points are in a deteriorated state meaning you are bumping into a physical horizon to which there is no more information to utilize in order to gain more accuracy. Again akin to the cosmological horizon to which the distance of an event is too great to access the accuracy of causality of the subject matter.

So something like pic related which is a mixture of a.i. generation, historical reference and artistic inference can only be so accurate. All the men in pic could be darker skinned or lighter skinned then they are portrayed. They could also be more physically leaner, fatter, taller, shorter, scarred or sikley. We can't really know past a certain point. So Cleopatra could possibly look like your picture but anyone stating accuracy above 75% without skeletal remains is pushing it.

[Anonymous No.15389599]

>>15388770
presuming that people 2000 years ago exactly resemble contemporary people is denying evolution.

[Anonymous No.15389613]

>>15389599
How the fuck are there two of you morons?
>>15379763

[Anonymous No.15391053]

>>15381692
muslim is not a race

[Anonymous No.15391072]

>>15389613
stop being a science denier, evolution is real phenomenon. people 2000 years ago had over 100 generations less selective pressure molding their makeup than people today do

[Anonymous No.15391212]

>>15391053
Arab rape baby admixture?

[Anonymous No.15392415]

>>15378175
they're fake and they are also homosexual

[Anonymous No.15394786]

>>15391212
probably not, semite women have mustaches

[Anonymous No.15396100]

just die.

[Anonymous No.15397809]

>>15379710
>Based kangz
dey wuz vi-kangz

[Anonymous No.15397927]

>>15378175
She needs to be a bit slaggy, though.

[Anonymous No.15397929]

>>15378175
Twist: that would the most accurate casting