/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15378024]

Is it true that people with schizophrenia have a low IQ?

[Anonymouse No.15378031]

they are just possessed, Anon. many people are possessed as well, why do you think they can't shut up?

[Anonymous No.15378068]

On average yes, those with schizophrenia have a lower IQ, but there are still individuals with the disorder who test in the normal or high range. These cognitive deficits have been shown to occur prior to the first episode of psychosis, lending credence to the notion of schizophrenia as a neurodevelopmental disorder.

[Anonymous No.15378081]

bout tree fiddy

[Anonymous No.15378141]

>>15378024
all the ones i know are like 10x smarter than me

[Anonymous No.15378194]

Yeah they do, it is lower by about a half a standard deviation

[Anonymous No.15378207]

>>15378024
Schizophrenia and the mental health sector is rife with commies who call people insane who pick up on all the hidden messages commies use to communicate with in films and any form of media.

They Live is about a man picking up on this, it's about aliens from the red(commies) planet (mars) masqurading as humans hiding messagse in media.
Escape from New York/LA is about commies turning cities into dystopia.
Ghosts of Mars originally called Escape from Mars.
2001 A Space Odyssey is about a man discovering the hidden messages.

They're also using pictures in social media to communicate, it can be words, colours, actions, even through emotions. They're a band of flaming homosexuals who think nobody else sees it. Intelligence agencies are aware. It is difficult to prove as all the messages can be denined by 'oh you're just reading into things'.

It is the modern day equilvalent of hiding coded messages in newspapers. This is how the commies orchestrated the pandemic, South Park specials show a lot of their ideas and population control.

[Anonymous No.15378225]

mental illness = low iq in all cases
"mental illness" and "brain damage" are synonymous phrases

[Anonymous No.15378247]

>>15378194
if you imagine the world as a crystal ball disrupting the earths magnetic filed in an ultra fine web, then it would perceive between 2-2000 Undecillion data points per second.
how do you know that the stuff i see isn't real?
or at least part of the matrix you are trapped in?

[Anonymous No.15378266]

>>15378024
they believe that people in a talk show crowd in the televion are watching them and sending them messages via telepathic. You have to be stupid to believe this

[Anonymous No.15378306]

>>15378024
Some studies have tested groups of people diagnosed with schizophrenia and found their average iq to be lower than what they would expect of the general population. Keep in mind, schizophrenia is not well understood, and repeated IQ tests can find higher and lower scores for the same person.

[Anonymous No.15378416]

>>15378225
nah, i have a math degree and im schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.15378440]

>>15378416
How old were you when you had your first psychotic episode? Have you received psychotherapy or medication? Did you have any noteworthy childhood traumas?

[Anonymous No.15378455]

>>15378024
High IQ means cretinism.

The life energy gone to the head but the rest of the body is mediocre or ugly.

[Anonymous No.15378502]

>>15378440
I had my first psychotic episode when i was 26 so i could never have had a career. I take antipsychotics and im on a waitlist for a therapist. I was abused as a child.

[Anonymous No.15378512]

>>15378024
No but IQ can be very subjective

[Anonymous No.15378580]

>>15378502
I'm sorry. I wish psychotherapy were more accessible, especially for people with psychotic disorders. Is your psychiatrist responsive to your needs? Do you feel you can be honest with them about your symptoms and side effects of the medication?

[Anonymous No.15378589]

>>15378024
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Distribution-of-IQ-in-patients-with-schizophrenia-and-normal-controls_fig2_51751447
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15379051]

>>15378207
you will never be a real schizo

[Anonymous No.15379120]

>>15378024
Smart people are probably not going to be full blown schizo, but rather something like schizotypal.

[Jealous No.15379152]

>>15379120
People who deserve to die are probably going to say everyone they don't like has some disease.

[Anonymous No.15379178]

>>15379152
ur the one that deserves 2 die

[Anonymous No.15379281]

>>15378225
Not entirely true. You could describe mental illness as anything which causes mental deviations from the norm.
In which case, Neumann, Einstein, etc... All have mental illness as their brain analysis indicated deviations from normal brain function.

Some differences are beneficial, but pedantically still qualify.

So it could be assumed such, that there are individuals who present as having mental illness, but due to their differentiated mental processing may have a higher IQ than the norm.

You think blunt beak finches pick on the skinny beak finches, because their beaks suck at breaking nuts, then you watch as they effortlessly pull grubs from holes.

[Anonymous No.15379291]

>>15379281
>You could describe mental illness as anything which causes mental deviations from the norm.
No you couldn't, because an illness implies pathology by definition.

[Anonymous No.15379304]

>>15379281
In order for a variation to be an illness it must cause suffering or impair function in some way

[Anonymous No.15379373]

>>15379281
nice cope.
you're low iq and your brain is sick, ill & underperforming.
your self-assigned delusions of having a decent iq are a coping mechanism, all part of your mentally illness.

[None !ccqXAQxUxI No.15379447]

>>15379373
Tldr, plus your a faggot

[None !ccqXAQxUxI No.15379450]

>>15379291
Sneed

[None !ccqXAQxUxI No.15379453]

>>15379304
Bruh, Einstein was autistic as fuck, what are you on bro?
He wore the same clothes everyday and thought his greatest achievement was boiling an egg in his soup. This man was mentally ill, and is glorified because muh soience.

[Anonymous No.15379460]

>>15379453
You're going to need better evidence than that to posthumously diagnose Einstein with a psychiatric disorder

[Anonymous No.15379488]

>>15378589
Checks out.

[Anonymous No.15379507]

>>15379460
Name ended in stein. There's something there.

[Anonymous No.15380093]

>>15378024
>>15378225
>>15379120
>>15379281
Schizophrenics aren't stupid because of low IQ, but because they are unbelievably naive, they will believe anything that people tell them, and otherwise accept unreliable information, as certain, even guesses that they made themselves. And they never doubt it later, and then reject any evidence to the contrary, which is where their insanity finally shows. It isn't so kuch the lack of intellect, more that they fill their brains with garbage knowledge.

[Anonymous No.15380096]

>>15378024
>>15378225
>>15379120
>>15379281
Schizophrenics aren't stupid because of low IQ, but because they are unbelievably naive, they will believe anything that people tell them, and otherwise accept unreliable information as certain, even guesses that they made themselves. And they never doubt it later, and then reject any evidence to the contrary, which is where their insanity finally shows. It isn't so much the lack of intellect, more that they fill their brains with garbage knowledge.

[Anonymous No.15382196]

>>15378024
Psychotic thinking is driven by creative associations, unusual imagery, and original metaphors. Those with psychotic neurodivergences think in a way that poets strive to represent by creating striking associations of two or more ideas or objects that neurotypical thinkers usually do not connect.

[Anonymous No.15383426]

take your meds

[Anonymous No.15383457]

IQ is a mitigating factor in most mental illnesses because higher analytical ability and self awareness allows for better outcomes since a very very smart schizo/autist/whatever is capable of recognising what's wrong describing it to care providers and sticking to treatment. Low IQ schizos have horrible outcomes because they already have shitty lives from poor coping mechanisms and impulse control and now that impulse is random paranoia fueled violence.

[Anonymous No.15383707]

>>15382196
Shut up Lake Angela

[Anonymous No.15383975]

>>15378024
That's what the lizards want you to think.

[Anonymous No.15383989]

>>15383457
If they recognized what's wrong, there wouldn't be anything to treat. Schizophrenia treatment refers to the drugging of confused people.

[Anonymous No.15384200]

>>15378024
I don't know what the stats say but I would imagine a cognitive disorder would be hard to compare to the general population right? One of the smartest people I've ever known became schizophrenic. Anecdote doesn't trump data but I do question the data.