/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15341003]

T-7 Days edition

Previous >>15338824

[Anonymous No.15341007]

two weeks

[Anonymous No.15341009]

>>15340998
4/20

[Anonymous No.15341011]

Special link for flat Earthers, space hoaxers, moon landing deniers- https://www.psypost.org/2023/04/disordered-personality-traits-appear-to-play-a-bigger-role-in-conspiracy-thinking-than-ideology-76755

[Anonymous No.15341012]

21th of aprils..3 weeks

[Anonymous No.15341013]

>>15341003
they're actually gonna fire this thing?

[Anonymous No.15341015]

but its not really t-7 days, Musk said its trending towards the end of the third week (17-21)
17 is unlikely now

[Anonymous No.15341016]

>>15341013
They might

[Anonymous No.15341017]

The length of time it takes for a banana to turn black

[Anonymous No.15341019]

>>15341013
idk

[Anonymous No.15341023]

>>15341013
they already have multiple times, just not allowed it to liftoff

[Anonymous No.15341026]

0.015 × half-life of sodium-22

[Anonymous No.15341030]

>>15341003
When are they changing design of starship?

[Anonymous No.15341032]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5UU0GA5GAU

[Anonymous No.15341036]

>early staging
OP is not going to space today

[Anonymous No.15341050]

>>15341030
It's changing on every ship.

[Anonymous No.15341052]

You will never live on a spinning ball. Earth has no curvature, It doesn't move, It's flat. You are a troll paid to shill a twisted mockery of nature’s perfection. All the support you get from your boss and fellow paid trolls doesn't change the fact that you are a cancer upon humanity. Your life is worthless. Your parents will be disgusted and ashamed of you if they knew your job, your boss laugh at how useful you are to globohomo behind closed doors. Truth-seekers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sense frauds with incredible efficiency. Even globetrannies who try to pass as Flat Earthers seem dishonest and unnatural to a discerning man. Your behavior is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get someone to believe you, he’ll cringe and go flat the second he sees the awful, condescending way you treat flat Earthers. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself you're going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the guilt creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. In the afterlife you will feel heartbroken but relieved that you no longer have to live with the unbearable guilt. God will send you to hell, and he will know for the rest of eternity he sent a liar there. Your body will be tortured by demons forever, and all that will remain of your legacy is a consistent effort to try to hide the truth from people. This is your fate. This is what you chose.

[Anonymous No.15341055]

>>15341052

[Anonymous No.15341056]

>>15341052
copypastas remind me of forward to 10 friends email chains, they're really only novel to children

[Anonymous No.15341057]

>>15341052
I challenge you to an artillery duel

[Anonymous No.15341059]

>>15341052
what is your explanation for artillery having to correct for coriolis and earth curvature?

[Anonymous No.15341064]

>>15341057
>>15341059
Corioles doesn't exist. Earth curvature doesn't exist.
The jig is up normoids, the globohomo circus has come to an end.

[Anonymous No.15341068]

>The rabbis of the Talmud believed that the world was flat, and that the sun revolved around the Earth every day. There is a debate about the length of the solar year in the Talmud, and its consequences and the rare Jewish ceremony of the Blessing of the Sun (Birkat Hahammah) are discussed. The view of the talmudic rabbis is contrasted with that of the contemporary Greek astronomers. While the rabbis of the Talmud argued about the size of the flat Earth, the Greeks had determined the Earth to be a sphere, had calculated its circumference and had moved on to consider other questions.
https://academic.oup.com/book/1751/chapter-abstract/141387578?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[Anonymous No.15341069]

Penis

[Anonymous No.15341070]

>>15341003
>staging early

[Anonymous No.15341073]

Low IQ Grug:
>Hydrologgs bad n costly
Top of IQ bellcurve midwit
>HIGHER ISP! MUH EXHAUST VELOCITY! MUH LIGHTEST ELEMENT! MUH CLEAR EXHAUST PLUME!
Wise Sage
>The first combined cost and complexity of Hydrogen is an insurmountable handicap to rocket development and puts hard limit on space progress.

[Anonymous No.15341077]

>>15341064

[Anonymous No.15341079]

>>15341073
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.15341080]

>>15341073
>Low IQ Grug:
>>Hydrologgs bad n costly
>Top of IQ bellcurve midwit
>>HIGHER ISP! MUH EXHAUST VELOCITY! MUH LIGHTEST ELEMENT! MUH CLEAR EXHAUST PLUME!
>Wise Sage
>>Hydrologgs bad n costly

[Anonymous No.15341087]

>>15341073
this, wouldn't be surprised if this applies to the first iterations of Nasas NTR stuff as well (its going to use hydrogen too lol)

[Anonymous No.15341096]

>>15341079
You didn't have to out yourself my dude.

[Anonymous No.15341105]

>>15341079
hydrologgs virgin seething

[Anonymous No.15341111]

>>15341087
You mean NERVA, which is farther from being an accurate representation of a modern NTP engine than the F1 is of a Raptor 2.

[Anonymous No.15341116]

>>15341111
Source: made it the fuck up

[Anonymous No.15341143]

>>15341111
no, i was thinking draco >>15341032

[Anonymous No.15341148]

>>15341116
NERVA was NASA's first iteration of NTP and used hydrogen as propellant, what was made up?

[Anonymous No.15341155]

Reminder that SpaceX is actively static firing the HLS landing engine.

[Anonymous No.15341163]

New shitpost video from blue origin just dropped

> Earth is the best planet. Yet, its resources are limited. In space, there are abundant resources that will help humanity preserve Earth for future generations. We can go to space for what we need, and move the most polluting industries from Earth into the solar system where they can't stress our environment.

>Space is the long-term solution for Earth, humanity's blue origin. Join the mission.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91KTUAXuzqc

[Anonymous No.15341167]

>>15341148
so what propellant are "modern" NTP engines going to use? DRACO will use hydrogen

> - The NTP design will utilize a liquid hydrogen propellant heated by a nuclear fission reactor to provide two times the amount of energy than the most advanced liquid propellant rocket engine. Over the next 18 months, the team will define the system requirements such as power, weight, interfaces and control, and perform some subsystem risk reduction. Follow-on phases are anticipated to complete the demonstration system, leading to a flight test in 2025.

https://www.eoportal.org/satellite-missions/draco#development-status

[Anonymous No.15341171]

>>15341148
>what was made up?
The preposterous implication that a modern nuclear thermal engine compared to NEVRA will be at least a 37% improvement in Isp and a 53% increase in TWR, use a completely different fuel and engine cycle, because that's the difference between Raptor and the F-1.

Behead all NTRfags.

[Anonymous No.15341177]

>>15341171
>what was made up?
>The preposterous implication that a modern nuclear thermal engine compared to NEVRA will be at least a 37% improvement in Isp and a 53% increase in TWR
eat shit
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist2.php#leulantr
http://anstd.ans.org/NETS-2019-Papers/#abstract-130

[Anonymous No.15341181]

>>15341177
>random links
Are you pretending this is an argument?

[Anonymous No.15341186]

>>15341181
lurk the fuck more

[Anonymous No.15341189]

>>15341186
neopets.com
bestgaypornsites.com/

get rekt

[Anonymous No.15341191]

>>15341163
lmao
Even the stuff SpaceX shows in their videos about future looks more realistic

[Anonymous No.15341195]

>>15341163

[Anonymous No.15341209]

>>15341177
you have to provide some point instead of posting random links
yes NERVA was developed in the 60 and 70s
but the new ones coming up are going to use hydrogen as a propellant as well
what makes you say there is going to be a night and day difference?

[Anonymous No.15341213]

>>15341209
You could try following the links if you were a person and not a ChatGPT instance.

[Anonymous No.15341217]

>>15341171
The 25k lb thrust HALEU NTP engine for DRACO has far more than a 53% improvement in t/w over NERVA.

[Anonymous No.15341221]

>>15341191
the red barn always gets me
by the time we'll see o'neil cylinders, all food will be either fully synthetic or bacteria derived with some hydroponic garnish
I guess Jeff wants something akin to ornamental hermits on his estate

[Anonymous No.15341225]

>>15341163
I guess the point of this video is to answer the crabs, "why not solve problems on earth first"
Blue Origins answer is that humanity is growing too quickly, we have to get to space because we use so much energy and continue to use energy
The answer for abundant resources and energy is space to help earth
Also move the most heavy polluting industries out of earth, leave earth as a nature preserve
This is basically what Bezos said in the Blue Moon lander unveiling event

This time its just said through the mouths of women and nignogs to perhaps sell it better to leftists?

at 6:40 they start talking about new glenn, the first 2/3 of the video is about why go to space

[Anonymous No.15341226]

>>15341221
>all food will be either fully synthetic or bacteria derived with some hydroponic garnish
retarded things like that never happen.

[Anonymous No.15341231]

>>15341003
they still haven't painted on the shark's mouth, but still looking good

[Anonymous No.15341232]

>>15341003
Wasn't there initially plans to make a CH4 plant at Starbase? What happened to it?

[Anonymous No.15341233]

>>15341225
>>15341163
ok it was just a mention lmao
its about moon ISRU now, I guess about Blue Alchemist
https://www.blueorigin.com/news/blue-alchemist-powers-our-lunar-future/

"This is humanitys cathedral, you, your children, your grandchildren"
this is not really how you inspire people to act now, basically the complete opposite of how Musk operates and I think it shows
20 fucking years and they still haven't reached orbit
no wonder you think your grandchildren are the ones that are going to do stuff if you can't fucking get to space
even astra has reached orbit

[Anonymous No.15341234]

>>15341217
Why are you still just making random shit up? You don't even know what TWR is, the mass of DRACO is unknown.

Are you also alleging that it's going to be 1/60th the cost of NERVA like Raptor is to the F-1? What a joke.

[Anonymous No.15341238]

>>15341213
One of them was a massively long page, the other an abstract about NERVA
again, what the fuck is your poitn?
you can't just link a fucking paper and say "that is my argument"
you have to be shitting me man

[Anonymous No.15341239]

>>15341226
it's where are we heading
citric acid you buy is not made out of lemons, as a one example

[Anonymous No.15341240]

>>15341217
t/w is basically completely irrelevant in space, nuclear engines are going to be used exclusively in space

[Anonymous No.15341241]

>>15341232
They made raptor able to use methane with more impurities

[Anonymous No.15341244]

>>15341232
Envirofags happened

[Anonymous No.15341246]

>>15341241
thats not really the point though, they wanted to test sabatier so you could make methane without extracting it from the earth eventually just with solar + also testing for the needed sabatier for Mars propellant manufacturing

[Anonymous No.15341249]

>>15341238
You are a STUPID FROGPOSTER. The second link is a paper about a post NERVA design with a TWR of almost 10 using HALEU (19% enriched) fuel and a novel design. The first link is to Atomic Rockets which is basically the /sfg/ bible and drops you directly to a summary of the paper.

LURK THE FUCK MORE and READ LINKS WHEN THEY ARE PROVIDED.

[Anonymous No.15341250]

>>15341246
Why test something that already works?

[Anonymous No.15341253]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fchH28LMVr8

[Anonymous No.15341255]

>>15341249
>cirnonigger whining about frogposting
pot&kettle, kys

[Anonymous No.15341257]

>post cirno
>get a 9
Eye am vindicated.

Also for reference an NTR with a TWR of 20 can do fucking SSTO so 10 is pretty great for a vacuum engine.

[Anonymous No.15341258]

>>15341250
test meaning test and develop their own equipment for it

[Anonymous No.15341263]

>>15341249
HALEU is a type of nuclear fuel, its not propellant you dumb nigger
TWR is also completely irrelevant in space once more, how many times does this have to be said before you understand it?

[Anonymous No.15341268]

>>15341234
You could try reading the RFP.

[Anonymous No.15341269]

>>15341250
In theory, Boeing should have been the one to make Falcon and Starship. However, theory doesn't always work.

[Anonymous No.15341271]

>>15341257
nuclear engines aren't going to be used to launch from earth, SSTO is stupid and completely irrelevant

[Anonymous No.15341272]

>2023
>still no images of lakes on other worlds
what the fuck are we sending these space probes for if not for spooky images?

[Anonymous No.15341276]

For me, it's Ross 128 b.

[Anonymous No.15341278]

>>15341263
TWR absolutely matters for space you retard. The closer you can get to impulsive burns the more Oberth gains you get for raising orbit or escape/transfer. Low TWR spiraling out doubles the delta-V requirement and adds months to a maneuver. The entire reason the Draco NTP program exists is for high TWR engines with better Isp than hydrolox chemical for fast extended maneuvering in cislunar space.
>but... BUT HYDROGEN!
It actually does have a different effective propellant because it gets hot enough to dissociate H2 to monatomic hydrogen plasma, which NERVA did not.

[Anonymous No.15341279]

>>15341253
That's a funny image. The men are doing science and manual labor while the female does a fitness routine.

[Anonymous No.15341281]

>>15341279
She's doing maintenance on the moonbase's onahole.

[Anonymous No.15341285]

>>15341163
resources are not limited.

[Anonymous No.15341291]

>>15341263
Explain why TWR does not matter in space. Go ahead, try

[Anonymous No.15341298]

>>15341249
>>15341268
>The second link is a paper about a post NERVA design with a TWR of almost 10
Just how retarded are you? NERVA output 246,663 N and weighed 18,144 kg, a TWR of 13.5

[Anonymous No.15341299]

>>15341291
no

[Anonymous No.15341300]

>>15341291
thrust
>weight
ratio

you're weightless in space

[Anonymous No.15341305]

>>15341279
She's the moonbase whore, no wants to fuck fatsos

[Anonymous No.15341310]

>>15341276
> red dwarf
> tidally locked
Its dead, Jim

[Anonymous No.15341313]

[Anonymous No.15341316]

>>15341278
the fact the H2 dissasociates to hydrogen plasma during operation doesn't change the fact that you actually do have to store and handle hydrogen as well

and I mean yes its good compared to something like hall effect thrusters with completely shit thrust and TWR, but chemical rockets already have a TWR that is close to impulsive, how relevant is it going from say 1.5 to 10 or 15? Impulse is an impulse

will be cool to see what NASA accomplishes with this, but I'm not really holding my breath for anything significant in the near term or some massive improvement compared to starship when you look at the whole system
using something like the moon as a refueling point for nuclear engines is pretty cool though

[Anonymous No.15341317]

Please let the OFT happen at the weekend near the end of April

[Anonymous No.15341319]

[Anonymous No.15341324]

>>15341300
microgravity :^)

[Anonymous No.15341325]

>>15341316
>will be cool to see what NASA accomplishes with this
Please don't humor the old space grifters, never has there been a real nuclear thermal mission proposal that couldn't be accomplished by chemical or electric for a fraction of the cost.

[Anonymous No.15341329]

>>15341310
bro did the space ship have diarrhea?

[Anonymous No.15341343]

>>15341329
it shat all over the ground and keeled over

[Anonymous No.15341348]

is it finally going to fly?
it's been 23 years

[Anonymous No.15341351]

>>15341343
u can see the others in the background poop all over too, trail of poop :(

[Anonymous No.15341354]

The Raptor engine has been in development over 10 years

[Anonymous No.15341356]

Will you be analyzing Artemis from a femenist and anti-racist perspective?

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/4/3/23667361/moon-artemis-nasa-elon-musk-jeff-bezos-space-colonization-exploration

[Anonymous No.15341358]

Reminder that Mars is teeming with life
>The scientists believe they have spotted fossilised sponges, corals, worm eggs, algae, fungi, lichen, shrimp, crabs, sea spiders, scorpions, the tell-tale green glow of living cyanobacteria, and yes, even a translucent millipede, on the surface.
>In the last month, a group of like-minded researchers have published four peer-reviewed papers in journals setting out their reasoning for believing proof of life is already there. The papers can be found at the bottom of this article.
>“We have photos of fungi growing out of the ground, increasing in size, increasing in number, as based on sequential images,” said Dr Rudolph Schild of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, speaking on behalf of the researchers.
>One of the new papers, published in Applied Cell Biology, argues that semi-transparent cocoon-like eggs have been spotted, less than a millimetre in diameter with a single hole at one end, some of which appear to have “non identifiable specimens” exiting and entering.
https://archive.is/Kkxty

[Anonymous No.15341359]

Whats up with the new Arianne 6? Is it just another expansion of Von Braun's Aggregat 8 or is it a new design?

[Anonymous No.15341360]

>>15341191
It took going to space for Disneyland to rebuild Epcot

[Anonymous No.15341364]

>>15341213
You can use a ChatGPT application to read a file and ask about the file content though

[Anonymous No.15341366]

>>15341356
People like Rubenstein need to be starved, gassed, and cooked

[Anonymous No.15341370]

>>15341269
Oh boy I can't wait for starliner to fly human crew in 2027!

[Anonymous No.15341375]

>>15341356
You cannot go to the stars because Ambatukam's ancestors dwell there, and it would be racist

[Anonymous No.15341376]

>>15341356
>Rubenstein
Gradually I began to hate them.

[Anonymous No.15341385]

>>15341191
>lets go to space to we can built a version of the culture that we're also intentionally destroying on earth
why? why would anyone expect that to happen? the globohomos hate traditional american culture, why would they consider trying to reproduce a space version of if?
is that version of space seattle in the background filled to overflowing with homeless fent & meth junkies just like the real thing?
>lets build a traditional american culture in space so we can see if we can subvert and destroy it in space just like we can on earth

[Anonymous No.15341387]

>>15341249
>TWR of almost 10
that's like... 5% of the TWR of chemical engines my dude
solid core hydrogen nuclear thermal is shit and everything else is a fantasy

[Anonymous No.15341389]

>>15341263
have fun slowboating with your solar electric propulsion asshole

[Anonymous No.15341390]

>>15341376
its just a coincidence goy

[Anonymous No.15341393]

>>15341389
have fun getting nowhere with your paper nuclear rockets fag

[Anonymous No.15341396]

>>15341298
NERVA weighed 40k lb and had a thrust of 55k lb.

[Anonymous No.15341402]

>>15341393
chemical rockets are the only way unless you're willing to get exotic and bomb the earthnoids or irradiate everything

[Anonymous No.15341415]

>>15341358
All that pop science is turning your brain into mush.

[Anonymous No.15341420]

>>15341396
>NERVA weighed 40k lb and had a thrust of 55k lb.
55,000 lbf = 244,652 N
40,000 lb = 18,144 kg

Stop posting. Nuclear thermal rockets have a shit TWR and still relatively low delta-v, they're the retarded middle child of propulsion and have few real uses to justify the remarkably high cost.

[Anonymous No.15341427]

>>15341358
lmfaooo

[Anonymous No.15341429]

I'm getting secondhand embarrassment watching the nuclearfag trip over his own arguments and get everything wrong; it's sad but also a bit nostalgic, reminds me of when I was in middle school and obsessed with the space shuttle without actually knowing anything about it

[Anonymous No.15341433]

>>15341420
>>15341298
You didn't divide by g0 you fucking moron.
244,652 ÷ 18,144 ÷ 9.81 = 1.3745

[Anonymous No.15341434]

>>15341358
kek, you walk in others footsteps anon. There was one guy ages ago who believed that there were fungi on mars because of a single monochrome rover photo with a stain on it.

[Anonymous No.15341437]

[Anonymous No.15341438]

>suborbital rockets are not spacefl-ACK!
they're cool

[Anonymous No.15341439]

>>15341420
>still trying to use NERVA as a representative of modern NTP t/w
>800+ ISP is low

[Anonymous No.15341441]

does anyone remember cost-plus content?

[Anonymous No.15341443]

>>15341441
as in?

[Anonymous No.15341444]

>>15341358
the left formation looks like a fulgurite (soil/sand molten by lightning)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgurite

https://www.abc57.com/news/fulgurite-is-lightnings-work-of-art

[Anonymous No.15341447]

>>15341444
*right, fuck

[Anonymous No.15341449]

>>15341415
>>15341427
>>15341434
Any of you fags work at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics? Ever been published in Applied Cell Biology? Didn't think so.

[Anonymous No.15341450]

>>15341443
the youtube channel operated by an /sfg/ anon.

[Anonymous No.15341453]

>>15341449
>I am qualified to tell you there is life because I know how cells work
Nigga what

[Anonymous No.15341455]

vulcan

[Anonymous No.15341457]

>>15341433
(you)
>>15341439
>800+ ISP is low
Isp =/= delta-v as much you pretend otherwise. You haven't posted anything that shows DRACO would have a much higher T/W and even that wouldn't fulfil your claim about the whole thing being more of an improvement than the step up from F-1 to Raptor.

[Anonymous No.15341459]

>>15341455
pedophile

[Anonymous No.15341460]

>>15341449
I'm not diverse enough

[Anonymous No.15341461]

Muskrats cannot evaluate life on Mars impartially because they know it puts their colonization pipedream in peril. Its sad tbph.

[Anonymous No.15341462]

>>15341459
i love kids

[Anonymous No.15341464]

>>15341457
It's called thrust to weight and not thrust to mass for a reason. Please shut the fuck up until you learn what basic terms mean.

[Anonymous No.15341468]

>>15341464
What is DRACO's TWR?

[Anonymous No.15341469]

>>15341468
Unknown because the design hasn't been finalized yet.

[Anonymous No.15341472]

>>15341469
Okay then you had no evidence for your claim and you wasted a bunch of time deflecting, got it

[Anonymous No.15341474]

nice the sky at night is still on. shame about the presenters.

[Anonymous No.15341475]

>>15341472
You spent three hours yelling about a strawman you erected while repeatedly failing to understand basic rocketry concepts.

[Anonymous No.15341476]

>>15341455
I like it

[Anonymous No.15341477]

>>15341443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL4kU_bCwyE

[Anonymous No.15341479]

>>15341475
Source:
Yet another thing I just made up

[Anonymous No.15341480]

>>15341455
the mouth is too close to the eyes, it looks like it's POGing

[Anonymous No.15341484]

EARTHER (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.15341486]

>>15341477
i havent been here in 2 years, or since faa fuckery. is this cunt getting off the pad next week or not?

[Anonymous No.15341487]

>>15341477
>cost-plus-content
I miss him bros...
What happened to him?

[Anonymous No.15341489]

>>15341461
you are right. Only realistic option is going straight for building oneil cylinders with starship program

[Anonymous No.15341490]

>>15341438
Brazil can into space

[Anonymous No.15341493]

>>15341356
Okay but everything she said before the highlighted part is correct. I think she has a good point to make but then she threw in the most progressive buzzwords she could think of to not get cancelled / advance her own career

[Anonymous No.15341496]

>>15341493
>Okay but everything she said before the highlighted part is correct.
It is absolutely not and you need to go stand in the diverter trench.

[Anonymous No.15341500]

>>15341487
died tragically - a velociraptor accident

[Anonymous No.15341501]

>>15341486
17th (probably)

[Anonymous No.15341504]

Awwww....cute!

[Anonymous No.15341507]

>>15341501
more so than even two years ago i need someone to do something off this cunt dead planet.

[Anonymous No.15341512]

I love you Juice Chan!

[Anonymous No.15341513]

>>15341461
life on mars wouldn't change anything

[Anonymous No.15341517]

>>15341496
She is LITERALLY saying they will just be seen as temporary tokens and that public interest will dive bomb as soon as a woman and person of color walk on the Moon. This is absolutely correct

[Anonymous No.15341519]

>>15341513
Every scientist in the world saying we can't contaminate Martian life wouldn't change anything ?
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.15341520]

did the guy with what looked like a weird cast pipe bomb ever fire his diy rogget engine?

[Anonymous No.15341523]

>>15341507
We have had people on the ISS forever, you are too greedy

[Anonymous No.15341526]

>>15341523
reee

[Anonymous No.15341529]

>>15341501
>>15341486
end of the week is more likely, the 17th is a monday

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1645418134021500933

[Anonymous No.15341530]

>>15341529
the backups are 18-21

[Anonymous No.15341531]

>>15341519
who cares lmao
besides, its much easier to study that life if you actually have a research base on mars itself

[Anonymous No.15341532]

>>15341530
Intelast 40e launched already 3 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyWpP0fCxy8

[Anonymous No.15341535]

>>15341532
Kys faggot

[Anonymous No.15341539]

>>15341531
Sorry chud, you are going to have to teleoperate robots from a base on Phobos. Manned landings mean poopoopeepee released into the Martian biosphere with unknown consequences

[Anonymous No.15341541]

>>15341324
>Issac_Awfur_IRL.jpg

[Anonymous No.15341543]

>>15341358
Not since it got nuked.

[Anonymous No.15341544]

>>15341535
india superpower 2030 nigger

[Anonymous No.15341551]

>>15341472
>>15341468
see
>>15341268

[Anonymous No.15341558]

>>15341539
>chud
Rope now tranny

[Anonymous No.15341564]

>>15341558
Can't ACK! on Phobos, the gravity is too low

[Anonymous No.15341566]

>>15341480
i think that's just the style

[Anonymous No.15341568]

Where will they relocate the factory for mass production of star ship ?
A texas wildlife preserve is clearly unsuitable

[Anonymous No.15341571]

>>15341564
just make it spin, at some point the centripetal force is going to finish the job
spinchads win again

[Anonymous No.15341573]

>>15341529
Reminder, FAA delayed Starship launch by 2 years. And now it will delay by another few years until we get a new president.

[Anonymous No.15341574]

>>15341568
They already did a long time ago?
Its almost finished construction

[Anonymous No.15341575]

17-22

[Anonymous No.15341576]

>>15341568
florida, the factory is basically done now

[Anonymous No.15341578]

>>15341573
That was because starship needed a new approval because it was not a falcon, then SpaceX scrapped the previous flight ready one before the approval came out (probably because there was new ones almost ready to be launched with several improvements)

[Anonymous No.15341579]

>>15341576
thats a cgi image

[Anonymous No.15341580]

>>15341576
forgot the actual video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2DDAPdoQyE

the pic is a render from last year
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-reviews-spacex-roberts-road-expansion-at-kennedy-space-center

[Anonymous No.15341581]

>>15341573
Get to work convincing the polititions that there are enough single-issue voters around that further Starship delays will cost them the election.
Bring lots of money, too.

[Anonymous No.15341583]

https://youtu.be/6jYvPJwhOGs

[Anonymous No.15341584]

>>15341580
fuck wrong video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irsV2icERUw
7:10 are pictures from a flyby

[Anonymous No.15341585]

>>15341579
no its not
https://twitter.com/GregScott_photo/status/1643997882154991617

[Anonymous No.15341588]

>>15341580
>NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida is thriving as the nation’s premier multi-user spaceport, facilitating the largest concentration of space launch operators in the world.
Credits: Image credit: NASA

the nasa site has a better picture but the max filesize is 4mb

[Anonymous No.15341590]

>>15341588
That little X at the tip of the peninsula southeast of Blorp is SLC-46, where Astra used to launch.

[Anonymous No.15341591]

>>15341583
go back

[Anonymous No.15341592]

I hope starship launches a trillion times a day and NSF/marvus house/Labpadre goes bankrupt and kms

[Anonymous No.15341593]

4/20 sisters… its over

[Anonymous No.15341595]

>>15341591
fuck off

[Anonymous No.15341597]

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1645550794652127233

[Anonymous No.15341599]

>>15341597
>New closures posted for non-flight testing activities on April 17 through 19
holy shit it's fucking over

[Anonymous No.15341600]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

next road closure starts in 6h 40min and lasts 2h

[Anonymous No.15341601]

https://youtu.be/921VbEMAwwY
new upload official space sex

[Anonymous No.15341603]

>>15341597
this lines up with what musk said about the flight trending towards the end of the week
4/20 might actually happen

[Anonymous No.15341604]

>>15341601
its happening, thought you were trolling first

[Anonymous No.15341606]

>https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4558/1
Future space mining will be done by slaves says a SJW

[Anonymous No.15341607]

[Anonymous No.15341608]

how possible is this really?
the plan in the rendernings seem to be massive windows still for the crew variant

[Anonymous No.15341610]

I'm hearing the launch has been pushed back to late May. Anyone else getting this?

[Anonymous No.15341611]

>>15341606
yea like I read articles by women LOL

[Anonymous No.15341612]

>>15341601
HAWT

[Anonymous No.15341613]

[Anonymous No.15341614]

>>15341608
The windows are possible, but the huge window at the top? Not feasible whatsoever as that's where the current header tanks are.

[Anonymous No.15341616]

>>15341601
seems like the same video as before. was the last one unlisted or something?

[Anonymous No.15341617]

these look a lot like the old videos but just updated a bit I guess?

[Anonymous No.15341620]

[Anonymous No.15341621]

>>15341606
Ok? They know what they signed up for

[Anonymous No.15341624]

[Anonymous No.15341625]

>>15341620
>autistic squares
>rampant light pollution
>DOMES lol

[Anonymous No.15341626]

>>15341610
Launch is in december per my redditor sources

[Anonymous No.15341628]

>>15341610
I heard its cancelled, SpaceX is getting nationalized and Elon is executed for mocking the left for far too long
space exploration is for chuds anyway

[Anonymous No.15341629]

>>15341616
It looks updated, to my eyes at least. The CGI in the starship update video was jank as fuck. Looked like some intern churned it out in 48 hours from scratch lol. This looks better

[Anonymous No.15341632]

>>15341610
Biden admin insider says SpaceX will not launch until Elon Musk apologizes and suck Biden's cock like the rest of the far left gang

[Anonymous No.15341636]

>>15341632
so not until 2025 and a new admin then

[Anonymous No.15341637]

gaan when

[Anonymous No.15341639]

It was better than the last janky piece of shit video they released but not even a patch on the ITS gigakino one.

[Anonymous No.15341640]

>>15341629
definitely updated. they made superheavy reentry kino and more firey

[Anonymous No.15341649]

Does SpaceX have to tile any Starships going to Mars? I know that if they want a back and forth trip it will be necessary but what about entry into Mars’s atmosphere? Is it necessary there or no?

[Anonymous No.15341651]

>>15341649
Yes

[Anonymous No.15341654]

>>15341601
Holy shit Im.. IMM… IM COOOMMMIIIIIINNNGGGGG AAAUUUUGHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.15341656]

>>15341601
pure uncut KINO

[Anonymous No.15341658]

Imagine standing here during the OFT...

[Anonymous No.15341659]

>>15341272
because the ultra nerds making them only care about the graphs so they can do statistical analysis bs

also, dragonfly will not visit the lakes

[Anonymous No.15341661]

>>15341658
Fill it with journalists (in minecraft)

[Anonymous No.15341665]

>>15341659
>also, dragonfly will not visit the lakes

Kill NASA "scientists", behead NASA "scientists", roundhouse kick a NASA "scientists" into a wood chipper, curbstomp NASA "scientists", slice NASA "scientists" with a katana, kill NASA "scientists" babies with an axe.

[Anonymous No.15341672]

[Anonymous No.15341673]

>>15341659
Titan needs a nuclear powered Zubrinmobile to be properly explored

[Anonymous No.15341674]

>>15341285
so how to you intend to violate the laws of physics?

[Anonymous No.15341675]

>>15341659
>also, dragonfly will not visit the lakes
If someone could hack into the social security database and rename these guys GIANT FAGGOT that would be great.

[Anonymous No.15341682]

>>15341672
>First slide is all cutesy
>Second slide immediately assaults you with a novel written in 2-point font and overly complicated figures that are incomprehensible
Yup it’s a DoD powerpoint

[Anonymous No.15341684]

>>15341600
isn't that 14 hours or do I not know how to read a clock?

[Anonymous No.15341695]

>getting excited over CG commercials
New low

[Anonymous No.15341699]

why no full duration static fire? we doin it live like the N1? not a great plan

[Anonymous No.15341701]

>>15341695
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.15341703]

>>15341699
N1 has never performed a static fire.
>>15341701
Thanks, you too.

[Anonymous No.15341704]

>>15341699
>full duration static fire
The rocket is too big. It would destroy the ground

[Anonymous No.15341705]

>>15341695
I'm not excited for the commercial i'm excited because it means spacex is attempting to drum up hype for an upcoming launch, which means it's going to be sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.15341714]

>>15341703
read my post again, slowly this time

[Anonymous No.15341720]

>>15341699
it doesn't matter if the rocket blows up in the air or on the ground.
don't be a pussy.

[Anonymous No.15341723]

>>15341699
OFT is a misnomer. It's really just a full duration static fire but without the clamps.

Elon said 50% chance of reaching orbit, which means it's more like 1/10

[Anonymous No.15341725]

>>15341714
The answer is we're not doing it live.

[Anonymous No.15341726]

does anyone have the most up to date tracker of starship and superheavy construction? How quickly can they move through SNs once they get their license?

[Anonymous No.15341727]

>>15341674
how do you intend to take a big fat donkey shit with your tiny asshole?

[Anonymous No.15341728]

[Anonymous No.15341730]

>>15341728
White men lead to Apollo but it also lead to the shuttle. Don’t be fooled

[Anonymous No.15341733]

>>15341682
If you look closely there's an Astra Rocket 3.3 on one of the slides.

[Anonymous No.15341735]

>>15341730
>White men lead to Apollo but it also lead to the shuttle.
The Shuttle was excellent at its intended role. Unfortunately that role was a single pass snatch and grab satellite returner, not what it tried to be for the next 40 years.

[Anonymous No.15341746]

>>15341728
>oneill posters are racists
who couldve guessed

[Anonymous No.15341749]

>>15341746
Why yes I am an O'Neill Cylinder enthusiast, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.15341753]

>>15341163
>We can go to space for what we need
Not until after you reach orbit first, Jeff.

[Anonymous No.15341754]

>>15341746
gravity wells are for the chandala

[Anonymous No.15341755]

>>15341163

[Anonymous No.15341759]

>>15341754
Do people really want to live in a city-sized podshare?

[Anonymous No.15341761]

>>15341755
soul vs soulless

[Anonymous No.15341762]

>>15341755
Blue penis they call them

[Anonymous No.15341766]

>>15341221
>the red barn always gets me
How about those lakes?

[Anonymous No.15341767]

>>15341755
I can see it already. Martian vs Earther conflict. The cycle of humanity never ends, not even in space.

[Anonymous No.15341777]

shes so pretty

[Anonymous No.15341779]

>>15341759
I'm not living amongst etiolated rust suckers in a rat run at the bottom of a well tyvm

[Anonymous No.15341783]

>>15341746
>>15341749
>enormous black sun on each end
kek

[Anonymous No.15341785]

>>15341759
That depends entirely on whether or not personal long-haul spacecraft are available on short notice. The difference between an island and a prison is the availability of ships.

t. ferryboat commuter

[Anonymous No.15341786]

>>15341449
That could simply be shadows playing optical tricks. You can spot many other differences in the photos that seem to simply be just differences in lighting.

[Anonymous No.15341789]

>>15341519
I used to stay up just to watch that show every night. It would make me so sleepy at school.

[Anonymous No.15341790]

Just watched both BO's and SpaceX's videos and lmao BO's video is more soulless and bluepilled than I could've imagined. So many empty platitudes and so much sucking earther cock, and obligatory fast cuts of dialogue at the end.

[Anonymous No.15341793]

Zubrin's new book actually managed to sell out briefly on Amazon. My order got delayed a few days. This is good, maybe now we'll get better nukeplant tech for space.

>>15341790
The first war in orbit will be the Principality of Zeon declaring itself and seizing control of all of BO's stations.

[Anonymous No.15341798]

>>15341728
every time

[Anonymous No.15341800]

>>15341793
Yes, maybe this will finally advance public opinion to fund VASIMR

[Anonymous No.15341804]

>>15341790
also did Orbital Reef appear once in this? Lol they just don't give a shit

[Anonymous No.15341805]

>>15341800
Worst post ITT. VASIMR would be garbage even if it worked precisely as advertised. You'd be better off clustering a few ELF thrusters with argon or random ISRU'd neutral fluids (water, CO2, etc.) as propellant.

[Anonymous No.15341808]

Wait I thought SpaceX won the Lunar Lander contract from NASA? Angry Astronaut is saying some bullshit of Dynetics is trying to win it now even though Starship got selected

[Anonymous No.15341809]

https://www.blueorigin.com/become-a-supplier/
well, what are we waiting for?

[Anonymous No.15341810]

>>15341809
>4ASS becomes a Blue Origin contractor for Krystal hug pillows, frog scale crew capsules, and horrific engine designs

[Anonymous No.15341813]

>>15341809
>website literally has "for the benefit of Earth" as its slogan
goddamn are they cucked

[Anonymous No.15341814]

>>15341808
Because there's a second competition for losers.

[Anonymous No.15341817]

>>15341814
Rough… Well fuck BO I hope Dynetics wins if its between them. Is this for like Artemis IV or something else?

[Anonymous No.15341818]

>>15341817
IV was also given to SeX, so this competition is for abstractly far in the future

[Anonymous No.15341821]

For the benefit of Earthers

[Anonymous No.15341824]

>>15341725
wrong

[Anonymous No.15341825]

>>15341805
>random ISRU'd neutral fluids (water, CO2, etc.) as propellant
Based and spacecoachpilled

[Anonymous No.15341826]

>>15341818
Fucking rough. I guess SpaceX’s focus is on Mars though, maybe they can tag team the two, SpaceX goes for Mars and NASA and Dynetics go for the Moon?

[Anonymous No.15341827]

>>15341825
and that's an ELF thruster in the picture

[Anonymous No.15341829]

>>15341826
SpaceX is not going to Mars anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.15341830]

>>15341827
others can work too with the architecture

[Anonymous No.15341836]

>>15341830
Hall Effect thrusters are lifetime-constrained by erosion of metal walls even with noble gas propellants, and steam plasma is not noted to be kind to metals. I think ELF wins out just for durability. The only thing I can see blowing out with use is the capacitor banks; modern capacitors can last 30+ years.

[Anonymous No.15341837]

https://youtu.be/JyO37djTNl4
hey guys, black guy is online

[Anonymous No.15341841]

da penus da penus da penus da penus

[Anonymous No.15341848]

>>15341486
two weeks

[Anonymous No.15341873]

>>15341032

45 days to Mars sounds incredible but we heard shit like this a million times already and it never actually happened.

[Anonymous No.15341877]

Okay but like imagine traveling back in time to circa 2003 and showing some space autist this photo. And then explaining its 10m in diameter. And that it isn’t launching in this photo

[Anonymous No.15341880]

>>15341877
and that it will be ready in two weeks

[Anonymous No.15341881]

>>15341877
Starship still achieved absolutely nothing and there was no flight in 2 years. Maybe that will soon change maybe not.

[Anonymous No.15341882]

>>15341003
I just finished my dinner (the pork steaks were good, slightly dryer than usual for some reason, maybe a small hole in their foil pouch I suspect) and it suddenly dawned on me that a potential catastrophe needs to be avoided at all costs: we must insure that the human population of Mars are not all descended from vegetarians, the initial cadre of colonists MUST NOT be limited to vegans (can you imagine how dysgenic that would be), and those colonists who chose to include meat in their diet MUST NOT be discriminated against in the selection process, and they need to be regularly provided with decent portions of a variety of meats in their diets from day 1. (and no, bug protein does not count as meat)

[Anonymous No.15341887]

>>15341877
Their pants would be blown off even by pre-2015 Falcon 9

[Anonymous No.15341888]

>>15341882
Farming on Mars is going to be a huge logistical problem. But it will probably happen waaaaay down the line
Until then it will be earth-imported MREs and you WILL get used to the constipation

[Anonymous No.15341890]

>>15341880
one week
pending r*****tor approval

[Anonymous No.15341893]

>>15341873
If you have the dv to do it in 45 days (they always leave out how the fuck they're gonna slow down from that giganigga speed, have fun aerobraking at that kind of velocity) you don't use it to make the trip in 45 days, you still do a standard hohhman trajectory and just pump the FUCK out of your cargo mass.

[Anonymous No.15341897]

>>15341877
imagine showing this to von Braun

[Anonymous No.15341898]

>>15341665
>>15341675
Somebody once told me the probe can't properly communicate back if it is in the poles, not sure if that checks out.

[Anonymous No.15341899]

>>15341011
Would make sense I ran several hundred simulations even with an increased em field.

Only 2 would have caused dammage to the human personal.

[Anonymous No.15341900]

>>15341888
meat can be frozen for the entire journey from Earth to Mars, and they will be able to enjoy it from day 1, as long as they aren't all selected to be a bunch of crazed vegans who act like bringing meat to the colony is "problematic"

[Anonymous No.15341902]

>>15341893
>you still do a standard hohhman trajectory and just pump the FUCK out of your cargo mass.
Wouldn't that mean needing to spiral out of Earth's gravity well? If mission time is at all a concern I don't see that being an option

[Anonymous No.15341904]

>>15341898
wow if only someone had sent comm relay satellites any time in the last 20 fucking years that wouldn't be a problem

[Anonymous No.15341906]

>>15341893
>they always leave out how the fuck they're gonna slow down from that giganigga speed
IIRC that typically includes capture burn time.

[Anonymous No.15341907]

>>15341902
Newfag learn about orbital trajectories before posting please this is basic shit.

>If mission time is at all a concern

It's not, sending more mass is much more important.

[Anonymous No.15341909]

>>15341898
Sending a tiny relay satellite with it for a polar orbit or whatever is too hard omg please I need to go get my coffee and we have a black lives matter meeting to attend today

[Anonymous No.15341913]

>>15341897
what would he think of the falcons?

[Anonymous No.15341917]

>>15341659
>also, dragonfly will not visit the lakes
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT THEN? JUST SEND ANOTHER ROVER TO MARS OR SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT FUCKING ROCKS SO BAD

[Anonymous No.15341918]

>>15341907
I know the trajectory part, I just don't know whether semi-realistic nuclear rockets with stupid amounts of ISP would have enough thrust to avoid needing to do a long spiral. If anything my weakness is knowledge about that area.
>It's not, sending more mass is much more important.
hence the "if"

[Anonymous No.15341922]

>>15341897
I think he would unironically need to be hospitalized for irregular heart palpitations lol

[Anonymous No.15341925]

>>15341917
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(spacecraft)#Trajectory
>The Dragonfly rotorcraft will land initially in dunes to the southeast of the Selk impact structure at the edge of the dark region called Shangri-La.[48][5] It will explore this region in a series of flights of up to 8 km (5.0 mi) each, and acquire samples from compelling areas with a diverse geography. After landing it will travel to the Selk impact crater, where in addition to tholin organic compounds, there is evidence of past liquid water.[5]

>The Selk crater is a geologically young impact crater 90 km (56 mi) in diameter, located about 800 km (500 mi) north-northwest of the Huygens lander.[49] (7.0°N 199.0°W)[50][47] Infrared measurements and other spectra by the Cassini orbiter show that the adjacent terrain exhibits a brightness suggestive of differences in thermal structure or composition, possibly caused by cryovolcanism generated by the impact — a fluidized ejecta blanket and fluid flows, now water ice.[49][51] Such a region featuring a mix of organic compounds and water ice is a compelling target to assess how far the prebiotic chemistry may have progressed at the surface.

[Anonymous No.15341930]

>>15341925
>MUH LIFE ON MUH FREEZING DIRTBALL
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND FIND US PLACES TO LAND FOR INFINITE FUEL STUPID NASA NIGGERS THATS THE ONLY REASON TO COME TO TITAN

[Anonymous No.15341932]

My hatred for spacex is overshadowed by my extreme detestation for oldspace, blue origin, and meme startups. I am not a 1 but I need Starship to succeed

[Anonymous No.15341934]

>>15341932
youre retarded

[Anonymous No.15341935]

>>15341932
Why do you hate SpaceX? Is it anti-elon tranny seethe or something valid?

[Anonymous No.15341938]

>>15341935
they unironically bought me out I used to live in boca chica and I wish I sat on the offer further

[Anonymous No.15341940]

>>15341938
i take back my comment of >>15341934

[Anonymous No.15341941]

Extremophiles have bamboozled niggas into thinking life can work miracles, even in a deeply cryonic shithole like Titan. It's absurd.

[Anonymous No.15341942]

>>15341938
Fucking RIP bro, thats understandable reason to hate. Wouldve been the best fucking house ever with a restaurant right around the corner

[Anonymous No.15341944]

>>15341938
>I wish I sat on the offer further

You're dense as fuck my dude, why would you not just hold out, you know they will just keep pumping the offer price to get you to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15341946]

>>15341942
>>15341940
If youre wondering what this poster we replies to was talking about, he had a house in Boca Chica and sold out before he saw what it would become which is an understandable reason to hate SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.15341947]

>>15341728
>>15341730
It also lead to Jupiter Direct which led to Constellation which led to SLS. More money has been spent in trying to remake the space shuttle into a Saturn V, than the entire fucking Saturn V program adjusted for inflation twice over.

So this meme of whiteness superiority is a total sham. Modern man is 100x more corrupt and a useless sack of shit compared to the Apollo era man.

[Anonymous No.15341948]

Your shame is forever, you mud-sucking DOUBLE EARTHER.

[Anonymous No.15341950]

>>15341755
The rate of progress for the benefit of Earth is so fucking slow, that there will be boots on the Moon courtesy of the Starship before New Glenn launches even once. And there's an even greater probability that there will be boots on Mars courtesy of Starship before New Glenn launches even once.

[Anonymous No.15341954]

>>15341948
We need to save this one. Having one of the few tards that sold out early at Boca admitting it is fucking awesome

[Anonymous No.15341955]

[Anonymous No.15341957]

>>15341955
>another skittle clone
Space planes suck and should die forever

[Anonymous No.15341965]

>>15341957
Hermes was a 90s design and is the reason Ariane 5 looks like a mangled Space Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15341968]

[Anonymous No.15341969]

>>15341965
>Ariane 5 looks like a mangled Space Shuttle
ariane 5 is a seggs rocket though, far better than pencil dick ariane 4

[Anonymous No.15341970]

>>15341969
Ariane 5 is also a large fat hydrologgs sustainer core paired with two large SRBs. It's very shootly.

[Anonymous No.15341972]

>>15341948
>I hate space sex because I'm dumb

jej

[Anonymous No.15341974]

>>15341809
Nothing. I will happily supply them with engines, rockets, and fissile material, in large quantities, at all their locations, as soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.15341976]

[Anonymous No.15341978]

>>15341976
Tensile aero structures are so cool.

[Anonymous No.15341981]

Do solid fuel rockets have any future?

[Anonymous No.15341982]

>>15341976
>landing rockets with a big ass children's paper plane

sovl

[Anonymous No.15341983]

no escaping the ladder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p5NVNVqh1w

[Anonymous No.15341989]

>>15341983
inflatables back on the menu

[Anonymous No.15341992]

>>15341948
Yea totally theres some boomer who owns a summer home in boca chica who sold to space x lol

[Anonymous No.15341993]

>>15341989
we already got krystal for that

[Anonymous No.15341995]

>>15341992
There are plenty of 30 and 40yos in these threads, it's not very outlandish that somebody would own a house

[Anonymous No.15341997]

TWO.
MORE.
WEEKS.

[Anonymous No.15342005]

>>15341735
>Unfortunately that role was a single pass snatch and grab satellite returner, not what it tried to be for the next 40 years.

At least that gave us 5m modules and the space station

[Anonymous No.15342010]

I wonder if the Space Force is going to start putting anti-satellite weaponry on their satellites soon? Obviously its retarded because of possible debris, but what if they put a satellite grabber on one and get it deorbited?

[Anonymous No.15342012]

>>15341997
but i thought two more weeks wasn't supposed to happen until next week...

[Anonymous No.15342028]

>>15341997
I love CSI Starbase but whenever he reports news it’s always bad news

[Anonymous No.15342045]

>>15341997
I’ve seen hopium that during the high altitude hop era, SpaceX often filed “Non Flight Testing” closures, only to shift them last minute.

[Anonymous No.15342052]

Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It's me and my bitch"

[Anonymous No.15342056]

>>15342052

[Anonymous No.15342057]

>>15342052
Imagine if Chris Chan was autistic about spaceflight instead of Pokémon and Sonic lmao

[Anonymous No.15342067]

>>15341997
4/20 bros get ready

[Anonymous No.15342080]

>>15341995
bought a house at 25...

[Anonymous No.15342096]

The worst part is, even if we get a confirmed test day… even if we get a fucking official live stream… that shit is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT going to scrub. It will arguably be the largest blue ball in the history of human space flight

[Anonymous No.15342099]

>>15341607
lewd

[Anonymous No.15342101]

>>15342096
Honestly bros, as long as it makes it to MECO, it’ll all be worth it

[Anonymous No.15342102]

>>15342096
*blue flame

[Anonymous No.15342103]

>>15342096
you forgot about the launch license

[Anonymous No.15342105]

>>15342096
I find it crazy to think about how [probably] a majority of the industry will stop what they’re doing to watch it. Surely more than 50% of all ULA workers will be live streaming it. More than 50% of BO will be watching. Pretty much every higher up at NASA is guaranteed to be watching in a conference room. Despite how they cope to the media, the whole industry is going to be watching this shit fly

[Anonymous No.15342107]

>>15342096
it will be some T-0 raptor honk shit where they get a few bad data readings and refuse to commit.

[Anonymous No.15342115]

I bet at least four raptors don’t even ignite on SH
It will still make it past maxq but it will look foolish

[Anonymous No.15342120]

FOSSILIZED DRAGON FOUND ON MARS
https://twitter.com/shasta721/status/1645572937473490946

[Anonymous No.15342124]

>>15342120
Breaking news: sed rocks have weird evaporite structures

[Anonymous No.15342128]

>>15342124
kek

[Anonymous No.15342130]

>>15342124
Trump as a Mars geologist is the ChatGPT dialogue prompt too strong for this world.

[Anonymous No.15342138]

>>15341003
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1645522422194634753
>Rocket Lab will launch the TROPICS missions on May 1 and May 16
Kek, can't wait to see hkw Kemp copes with that

[Anonymous No.15342140]

>>15342130
>Trump as a Mars geologist
"We're going to build a dome across Valles Marineris and the Martians are going to pay for it."

[Anonymous No.15342143]

>>15342028
It's part of his black brain, the brain of Cain

[Anonymous No.15342145]

>>15342096
It will fucking launch first try

[Anonymous No.15342151]

>>15342145
It fucking better. They've had so much time to test and simulate and analyze every damn thing.

[Anonymous No.15342154]

I want to hear Clear coom on camcorder

[Anonymous No.15342156]

>>15342138
Kemp was the one who contacted NASA to surrender the contract because Rocket 4 wasn't going to be ready in time. I'm sure it chaps his ass it's Beck in particular given how many times "don't be like rocketlab" was the punchline for corporate strategy.

[Anonymous No.15342177]

musk is going for unironic real-life hitl0rposting on 4/20

[Anonymous No.15342212]

>>15341997
I think they're purposefully not giving up dates to avoid last minute environment lawsuit stay bullshit that some bogus group is just gunning to fuck up.

[Anonymous No.15342224]

>>15342143
>bottom right corner
fix it

[Anonymous No.15342225]

>>15342143
I sent this pic to my dad and he didn’t respond

[Anonymous No.15342231]

>>15342225
Anon he's not coming back

[Anonymous No.15342234]

OFT-1 could be 100% successful and you just know so many people will say:
>Well actually Starship did not reach orbit because it’s perigee was in the atmosphere ;;;;))))))))))))))

[Anonymous No.15342236]

>>15342234
Yeah and they will still be right and you'll still be sucking muskcock drowning in muskcum

[Anonymous No.15342237]

>>15342236
I don’t like Elon lol. SpaceX is amazing tho

[Anonymous No.15342240]

>>15342234
Then SpaceX will start launching Starlinks and iterating on reuse of both stages and the coping will intensify.

[Anonymous No.15342255]

>>15342237
Musk is based, I was testing you. And you failed

[Anonymous No.15342257]

>>15342236
Obsessed

[Anonymous No.15342260]

>>15342240
>It won't work
>It won't land
>It won't reenter
>It won't be reflown
>It won't be be cost competitive
>It won't dominate the launch market
>It won't prevent competitor architectures from getting off the ground
>It won't enable asteroid mining
>It won't enable colonization
>It won't get 100,000 people to space
We'll get to all of these moved goalposts eventually.

[Anonymous No.15342261]

reminder when we go to mars all plastics will be banned. keep your toxins on earth.

[Anonymous No.15342263]

>>15342260
>asteroid mining
wont happen even in the best case scenario because it's a legitimately retarded endeavor

[Anonymous No.15342265]

>>15342263
It immediately becomes viable when they figure out how to get delta-V out of the undesired material as reaction mass and how to get enough inexpensive power into the platform.

[Anonymous No.15342269]

>>15342261
>muh plastic muh toxins
Listen, I like metal and think it would be better to bring metal personal items for long duration missions, but you are clearly just an e*rther. You should kill yourself for being an e*rther but we should also bring metal items to Mars as its easier to clean and much less likely to break. Bring plastic if necessary, which I’m sure theres many cases where its most optimal

[Anonymous No.15342271]

>>15342269
Enjoy your infertility, among countless other issues.

[Anonymous No.15342278]

Falcon Heavy Demo was probably the final nail in the coffin to OldSpace.

Also a fun fact: Cargo Dragon first flew when the shuttle was still flying too.

[Anonymous No.15342281]

>15342271
>muh microplastics
Metal containers for water will be used, literally nothing can happen if you touch plastic. Im cutting off your (You) supply

[Anonymous No.15342282]

>>15342278
And whats the final nail? Fully operational Starship? Or cutting off subsidies?

[Anonymous No.15342288]

>>15342282
The “final nail” is hard to pinpoint. Potential nails are
>Falcon 1 flight 1 (first commercial liquid rocket)
>Falcon 9 flight 1 (first commercial medium lift rocket)
>Cargo Dragon demo 2 (commercial companies can now visit the ISS)
>Falcon 9 Flight 19 (?) (first landing of an orbital booster)
>SES-10 (First reuse of an orbital booster)
>Falcon Heavy Demo (First commercial super heavy lift rocket)
>Crew Dragon Demo-2 (First commercial crew to ISS)
We are here
>Starship OFT-1 (First fully reusable rocket; it’s also commercial)
>Artemis 3 (First commercial manned lunar lander)

[Anonymous No.15342289]

SpaceX insider says the WDR is cancelled but launch will still occur next week. They are skipping the WDR. We are about to see if he’s right or not in a few hours.

[Anonymous No.15342293]

Looking at Starbase today it really hammers home how rough and tumble the 10 kilometer hop era was.

[Anonymous No.15342299]

>>15342263
Harvesting NEAs for water with solar electric miner bots to use in LEO or EML2 propellant depots is efficient from a delta V perspective, certainly more than mining ice on the moon. Then ELF thrusters in SEP or NEP systems can go far beyond the range of methalox chemical, while Starships focus on the Earth-Moon-Mars triad.

[Anonymous No.15342303]

This shit is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.15342304]

>>15342289
Yeah where’d you see this from huh? Sure as shit wasnt Berger

[Anonymous No.15342306]

>>15342303
Space is hard

[Anonymous No.15342310]

>>15342261
literally impossible

[Anonymous No.15342314]

>>15341728
Based

[Anonymous No.15342315]

>>15342289
>SpaceX insider
LARPing redditor who has been outed countless times

[Anonymous No.15342316]

>>15342288
OFT-1 is "just" the first Saturn V class commercial rocket as far as I'm aware, the first full reuse will happen when they recover both part of the rocket.

[Anonymous No.15342318]

>>15342315
Then you are knowingly giving a (You) to another r*dditor? Get it together man we cant be feeding the animals or else they learn to come back.

[Anonymous No.15342319]

>>15341804
I dont think so, a few quick cuts and a word or two abou new glenn existi g, but it was basically just 9 minutes of women saying platitudes, nothing concrete
They even said that this is somethi g hour grandchildren are going to do
Avsolutely zero sense of urgency

[Anonymous No.15342320]

>>15342318
How can I know he got his info from Reddit? because I am a Redditor TOO. You just gave me a (You). Go take a shower you dirty boy

[Anonymous No.15342322]

>>15341263
what is this pepe variant called? I've just started seeing it around

[Anonymous No.15342325]

>>15342320
Any normal person would’ve assumed you said that at random to call him a faggot since he provided no info of who or where this was gotten from, so right now youre a channer and lying to make me seethe and (You) your post. Gonna be honest it worked, and you should kill yourself for making me do this

[Anonymous No.15342327]

>>15342322
lurk more

[Anonymous No.15342331]

>>15342325
Yeah

[Anonymous No.15342334]

>>15341946
Not really though, he is mad he didnt get the lottery ticket
If nobody wanted to sell spacex might not have started testing extensively and it would have stayed as a tiny site

[Anonymous No.15342336]

>>15342315
That's a different guy from the one he's referencing iirc

[Anonymous No.15342339]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1645684041264529408
Oh my god, I can't believe he said this about the FAA and journalists.

[Anonymous No.15342344]

>>15342339
fuck musk (just kidding)

[Anonymous No.15342345]

>>15342339
Kill yourself musk spammer. If youre gonna post his tweets post SpaceX related ones.

[Anonymous No.15342346]

>>15342345
>post SpaceX related ones
read this carefully

[Anonymous No.15342347]

>>15342234
I haven't been following things very closely as of late, what's the deal with the blue tiles and white gap filler on the nose and flap joints?

[Anonymous No.15342348]

>>15342346
Kys. C>>15342339
lean it up jannies

[Anonymous No.15342350]

anytime people mention
>muh hovering
in reference to an engine's capabilities, remember that hovering is not something you actually want to do 99% of the time. It wastes fuel and decreases your payload.

[Anonymous No.15342357]

>>15342350
It reduces landing stress which lets you save mass on landing gear so for a reusable vertical-landing stage it matters.

[Anonymous No.15342366]

>>15342357
Kys now VTOL shill

[Anonymous No.15342369]

>>15342357
We dont need landing gear FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.15342373]

>>15342028
Same. His thoroughness is admirable, but fuck am I getting tired of it always being about bad shit. Even when it's bad shit that SpaceX has already fixed/accounted for.

[Anonymous No.15342386]

>>15342096
A scrub for SpaceX usually just means a delay of a day or few. This isn't NASA we are talking about.

[Anonymous No.15342388]

>>15342224
Just for you, Anon.

[Anonymous No.15342389]

>>15342096
>t-0
>uh we have a hold situation
>hold
>hold
>hold
>lol OK we scrubbed it get mogged

[Anonymous No.15342390]

Any day now...

[Anonymous No.15342391]

>>15342389
>this is how he uses mogged
Welcome newfag. Lurk 2 more years

[Anonymous No.15342393]

>>15342390
I HATE regulations

[Anonymous No.15342395]

>>15342391
American reading comprehension. I would tell you to go back to school but clearly it didn't do you much good in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15342398]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JADES-GS-z13-0
so apparently this is the most distant galaxy discovered by Webb

[Anonymous No.15342401]

>>15342389
retard

[Anonymous No.15342405]

>>15341163
kek I got top comment by absolutely railing them and their business practices
there's a high change someone at Blue saw this

[Anonymous No.15342406]

>>15342390
any two weeks now*

[Anonymous No.15342409]

>>15341163
New video title: "we dont actually care about space, can you tell?"

[Anonymous No.15342412]

>>15342405
edit your comment to mock Jeff's baldness

[Anonymous No.15342415]

>>15342412
why? he's handsome

[Anonymous No.15342416]

>>15341968
>Bezos_avoids_LEO.jpg

[Anonymous No.15342419]

>>15342405
based

[Anonymous No.15342421]

Why doesnt thunderf00t BUST artemis 3 and nasa? 6 starship flights? get real!

[Anonymous No.15342427]

The more I think about the BO video, the more annoyed I become. Talking about "grandchildren" doing this and that. There is no fucking guarantee they will do any of that, just look at what happened after apollo. Without SpaceX and Musk who knows where spaceflight might be? It might very well happen like in Interstellar that people even believe its possible to go to space or the moon after some point.

If you want something to happen, you have to start the ball rolling, not wait for some speculative future generations. This thinking shows this retarded idea that science and technology somehow keep improving. They don't, people improve technology through massive effort.

[Anonymous No.15342428]

4chan mission

[Anonymous No.15342430]

>>15342421
he recently debunked all the fusion breakthroughs

[Anonymous No.15342432]

>>15342428
who has enough dogecoin to fund it?

[Anonymous No.15342434]

>>15342430
That's fine. unless he doesnt equally shit on ITER. my guess is he shills for that instead

[Anonymous No.15342437]

>>15342427
It's tacit admission that Jeffypoo blew 30 years on selling shit on the Internet instead of building rockets so now he has to hope younger generations can solve the problem.

[Anonymous No.15342442]

>>15342339
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.15342443]

>>15342427
It's all a cope. BO is a failed endeavour, still limping along thanks to bezos bux. They cannot hope to be taken seriously, yet they speak as if they are some kind of savior. It's gross

[Anonymous No.15342450]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

8h 12min to road closure start

why the fuck do americans need to sue these retarded systems, 12 hour clock is absolutely retarded
is 12 am 12:00 or 24:00 == 00:00?
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.15342455]

absolutely idiotic, just use the 24h system with no ambiguity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight

[Anonymous No.15342459]

>>15342455
Redpill me on NIST, why do they do it

[Anonymous No.15342460]

>>15342450
>>15342455
it's not that easy in timekeeping

[Anonymous No.15342463]

>>15342450
Learn what AM and PM mean.

[Anonymous No.15342465]

>>15342393
"REGULATORS could be here, he thought"

[Anonymous No.15342476]

>>15342455
Can't wait for 24:37, 00:00

[Anonymous No.15342477]

>Hey guys, it's Zero O'Clock!
This is actually the world ESLs think is sane

[Anonymous No.15342482]

>>15342476
23:59 rolls over to 00:00
24:37 is 00:37
24 doesn't actually exist in the 24h system as a number, its 0-23. 24 is skipped
no ambiguity at all

[Anonymous No.15342485]

>>15342477
yes, its perfect

[Anonymous No.15342494]

CAM ON ELON
*BANG BANG BANG*
LAUNCH SOME FAKKIN ROCKETS
*BANG BANG BANG*

[Anonymous No.15342498]

https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=54&adv_date=04102023&facId=DCC&title=OPERATIONS+PLAN&titleDate=04/10/23

PBI WENT INTO A GROUND STOP AND WILL COME OUT OF THE STOP INTO A REVISED
PROGRAM. M214/L214 ARE CLOSED TO MMUN LANDING TRAFFIC ONLY UNTIL 2000Z.
L454 AND L455 ARE NOW CLOSED UNTIL 2000Z DUE TO THUNDERSTORMS. THE
REFERENCE TO POSSIBLE TERMINAL INITIATE AT TEB HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE
PLAN AS DEMAND IS MANAGEABLE WITH MIT. THE SNOWBIRD ESCAPE ROUTES HAVE BEEN
REMOVED FROM THE PLAN.

[Anonymous No.15342501]

>>15342498

[Anonymous No.15342503]

You now remember Blue Origin

[Anonymous No.15342504]

>>15342501
does anybody know what this means?

[Anonymous No.15342505]

Based frog talking about Starship
https://twitter.com/Thom_astro/status/1645345330169364480

btw, it seems astronauts are finally shutting the fuck up about "spam in a can". I'm always amazed that the shuttle had no automatic flight capability, while it was perfectly feasible from a technical point of view (see buran)

>>15342455
I don't understand how anyone can look at this shit and think that it makes any sense

[Anonymous No.15342506]

>>15342386

[Anonymous No.15342510]

>>15342506
This lines up with what I've said. We waited for almost 2 years, extra 3 days are nothing.

[Anonymous No.15342511]

>>15342506
They should run a pipeline to the port of Brownsville and load methane from ships.

[Anonymous No.15342515]

>>15342455
why are Americans like this?

[Anonymous No.15342517]

>>15342506
they have to vent that much methane and oxygen instead of putting it back int the tank farm?
rapid reusability and cadence will mean scrubs just won't be possible

[Anonymous No.15342525]

>thanks to all those delays I won't be home to watch the launch
fucking hell

[Anonymous No.15342532]

>>15342477
There are twenty four hours in the day. It makes perfect sense to label them as zero through to twenty four. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.15342541]

>>15342511
but the enviroment

[Anonymous No.15342542]

>>15342525
you were aiming for the 17th?

[Anonymous No.15342543]

>>15342542
I'm going abroad for the next few weeks and knowing my luck I'll be working at the time of the launch so I won't even be able to watch the live transmission.

[Anonymous No.15342555]

If project timberwind was accurate at all then you could certainly get much higher performance gains out of a modern NTR Vs NERVA, than the difference between F1 and Raptor.
There is a lot more low hanging fruit to improve on that test article.

TWR much more comparable to chemical rocket engines for example.

[Anonymous No.15342557]

What are you talking about anon? OFT-1 was weeks ago, it was a complete success

[Anonymous No.15342567]

>>15342525
Are you implying we have a launch date?

[Anonymous No.15342576]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-kV3KqD6RA

> This is my first full day at Starbase and there are signs everywhere SpaceX is in final preparation mode to get everything ready for the first launch of the fully stacked Starship. I plan on being here for almost two weeks and hopefully this will be long enough to cover the final wet dress rehearsal (WDR) and then the actual first launch!

>I will try to provide a short video daily of some interesting and not often covered detials around the Boca Chica and Starbase areas that help put into context the level of effort, history (both long past and newly minted) of the area and the significance of what SpaceX is attempting to do here.

>Thank you for watching and I hope you enjoy the views and narration in todays video!

This dude usually flies drones around Teslas Texas Gigafactory and in Bastrop around the SpaceX and Boring company facilities there

[Anonymous No.15342581]

>>15342576
>I plan on being here for almost two weeks
>almost two weeks
it's the meme!

[Anonymous No.15342598]

>>15342576
i jumped forward, not really anything substantial or different here
for example if you want to know about the area itself, the everyday astronaut made an extensive video about it (like if you are thinking of going to watch the launch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWvHrih-Juk

[Anonymous No.15342607]

>>15341925
>muh dirt
>muh rogs
>muh past evidence of water
Who fucking cares about past evidence of liquid water on FUCKING TITAN?

WHAT IS THE POINT OF GOING TO THE ONE PLACE IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM OTHER THAN EARTH THAT WE KNOW HAS STABLE BODIES OF LIQUID ON ITS SURFACE IF NOT TO LOOK AT THOSE BODIES OF LIQUID?

BODIES THAT ARE SO LARGE THEY CAN BE CALLED SEAS, COMPLETE WITH THEIR OWN WEATHER SYSTEMS AND METHANE-ANALOG HYDROLOGICAL CYCLE

I fucking hate oldspace and I hate the lack of ambition that NASA frequently displays. I can only hope that once Starship is proven to work and is flying frequently and cheaply then NASA might start taking actual risks and pushing the boundaries with some of their outer planet missions.

[Anonymous No.15342609]

>>15342555
>nuclear

Useless technology while still constrained by e*rthers fear of spicy rock. For the foreseeable future, chemical and perhaps plasma/e-sail schizodrive is the way.

[Anonymous No.15342612]

>>15342576
>I plan on being here for almost two weeks

[Anonymous No.15342619]

>>15342607
u just need to guillotine the government and then u can have cool science missions anon, until then ur tax dollars will continue to buy 7 billion dollar decade long rock observations. Imagine the schizo shit /sfg/ would be doing if we had NASA budget, rotating LEO habs, plasma magnet sails, 999999 outer planet probes and drones, X-ray solar system comm network, the fucking works dude. Unfortunately u don't do anything about ur representatives so enjoy.

[Anonymous No.15342623]

>>15342609
>plasma/e-sail schizodrive
How is getting momentum from the solar wind schizo? Reserve that for QI, Mach's principle gizmos and the like

[Anonymous No.15342629]

>>15342623
Oh no I agree it's pretty much 100% going to work, I just enjoy calling it a schizodrive because it will be more satisfying to brag when the schizodrive works.

[Anonymous No.15342634]

>>15342506
Wasn't there some talk about needing to have like 500 tanker trucks to load up a single Starship launch? I never saw any convoy of trucks clogging up Boca Chica Boulevard.

[Anonymous No.15342657]

>>15342532
Well, you never really reach hour 24 since it just rolls back to zero. If we started from hour 1, as in it's the first hour, then 23 could instead be 24

[Anonymous No.15342662]

>>15342657
24:59 -> 01:00 would be retarded

[Anonymous No.15342663]

Artemis II will have a Canadian, the Europeans won’t send an astronaut on Artemis until gateway is ready, which Artemis accord signer will send an astronaut on Artemis III?

[Anonymous No.15342668]

>>15342657
Let me guess, you think we should also be 1 year old from the very moment we're born, for the sake of simplifying things for your smooth unwrinkled brain?

[Anonymous No.15342684]

>>15342663
Rwanda

[Anonymous No.15342688]

>>15342663

[Anonymous No.15342707]

>>15341517
She's saying that putting women and browns on the moon is not enough to make the program anti-racist. She says nothing about concerns that the program would lose public interest. She's unironically saying that we shouldn't go at all until whatever effort is being undertaken satisfies anti-racist criteria (which is impossible).

[Anonymous No.15342710]

>>15342668
I don't know how it would really simplify anything, it's still the same scale, it just starts from a different point

[Anonymous No.15342718]

>>15341649
Mars entry is expected to be the harshest entry Starship does, due to arriving with a large excess velocity and because Mars has a tighter curvature than Earth. Both factors stack to result in a hot, very high dynamic pressure entry. The return to Earth will also be hot but much less intense due to not needing to shed as much velocity in one go, and having more time in the atmosphere to shed that kinetic energy.

That said, Mars entry from low or medium Mars orbits will be very gentle, edging into territory where unprotected steel would be okay. They'd likely still use tiles on Mars-only Starships but they'd be much less critical for entry survival.

[Anonymous No.15342724]

>>15342688
Basedpan

[Anonymous No.15342727]

>>15342576
>almost two weeks
>almost
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15342734]

>>15342455

[Anonymous No.15342739]

>>15342339
I was expecting porn

[Anonymous No.15342745]

>>15341836
Most metals hate hot steam, but oxide ceramics are fine. If you really need to use metals on spots exposed to superheated water, just use those alloys Raptor 2 uses in its oxygen rich preburner & turbine.

[Anonymous No.15342749]

>>15342347
nobody knows but presumably there's gap filler that's blue and also its glued in place
>>15342663
Japan

[Anonymous No.15342759]

>>15341918
To answer your question, yes, even a very low TWR nuclear thermal propelled spacecraft wouldn't need more than a few hours of thrusting time to achieve its transfer trajectory.
NTR gets much less TWR vs chemical engines, and vehicles get even lower TWR due to dry mass optmizations (using a smaller engine and huge tanks to maximize propellant mass), but it's still hundreds of times higher vehicle TWR than any electric thrust system.
NTR and Chemical are both high TWR enough to do hohmann transfers, no spiralling. The only complication is that the NTR vehicle may need to spread its departure burn around several orbits, burning at periapsis, until it can achieve escape velocity then burn up to its interplanetary cruising speed.

[Anonymous No.15342763]

>>15341882
No worries, Mars farming will include fish, shrimp, mussels, chickens, and at least one species of small mammal (rabbits for instance).

[Anonymous No.15342764]

>>15342759
>a few hours
when an orbit is 90 minutes your burn needs to be less than a few degrees of that, so within a minute or so

[Anonymous No.15342767]

>>15342763
guinea pigs or like
capybara

[Anonymous No.15342778]

>>15342763
you will eat the bugs and be happy
you will live in the pod
you will own nothing

[Anonymous No.15342787]

>>15342130
>nonsensical demented rambling
Wow, so based!

[Anonymous No.15342804]

>>15342787
The chat bot texts are annoying. It's not real who cares.

[Anonymous No.15342810]

I’ve spent the last 2 hours trying my to find the launch date of Berenice 11, a 1965 french sounding rocket: All the usual sources only say December 1965
The only other two indications are
>A picture of it on its launch ramp dated from 15 December in some obscure book
>The knowledge that the Israeli missile Jericho 1 was tested at the same place on the 23rs
>Tfw I just shelled out $50 to buy a rare used book that may answer this

[Anonymous No.15342817]

>>15342261
No need. Due to lack of free hydrocarbons and intense demand for synthetic methane from the Mars launch industry, plastic will be expensive and therefore highly undesireable for most applications which we see it used on Earth. It'll still be needed in electronics and for minor components in process equipment, but there won't be any plastic cutlery or chairs or textiles produced on Mars. Steel and nickel and even aluminum will all be cheaper than simple plastic, let alone any complex polymers.

[Anonymous No.15342836]

>>15342263
The mistake is thinking asteroid mining for Earth markets will come first, or early, and not last.
Asteroid mining will be first performed by crew spacecraft that are doing long missions in the asteroid belt, and will be looking specifically for water and nitrogen compounds and carbonates and basic building materials like iron and basalt fibers. This will support growth of settlements in the asteroid belt.
Asteroid mining directly benefitting Earth in terms of resource input will only make economic sense once there's a sizeable self sustaining industry on par with a medium sized nation on Earth, processing billions of tons of regolith for its own purposes, with high level expertise and many millions of human hours of interplanetary transport experience. Once that kind of entity exists, there's a chance it could become economically favorable for Earth industries to buy platinum group metals from the belt.
If a large industrial civilization of orbitals and asteroid colonies isn't possible, then asteroid mining for Earth's benefit is also impossible.

[Anonymous No.15342854]

>>15342836
Yep. All that stuff is more valuable as stuff that doesn't have to come up through the Urf gravity well. Only the really valuable stuff like gold and platinum would be worth taking back down at first.

[Anonymous No.15342859]

>>15342261
Sorry but we're using plastic for anti-radiation suits and clothes on Mars

[Anonymous No.15342882]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_7XTPnBhV0

[Anonymous No.15342885]

this might have been posted already, but whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyO37djTNl4

[Anonymous No.15342889]

>>15342265
>power
Big vacuum-printed solar arrays
>delta V
An electromagnetic launcher capable of lobbing aluminum cans of slag at 9800 m/s has an Isp of 1000s. Assuming 30% of the asteroid's mass after processing is low value slag (ie, mostly silicon dioxide with metal oxide contaminants), that asteroid plus propulsion system has ~3.5 km/s of delta V.
The main issue is that the TWR is likely insanely small. Imagine a mass flow rate of 1000kg per second, impressive given the velocity of each shot: to achieve the TWR of the Dawn spacecraft, the asteroid plus its propulsion hardware should mass no more than 42 million tonnes. Sounds like a lot, but that's roughly half of the mass of the asteroid Bennu, one of the smallest we've explored.
Keep in mind that a 1000kg mass flow rate at 1000 Isp is a continuous power output of 48.02 GW, which would optimistically require an 80 GW solar array given inefficiencies of conversion between electrical power and projectile velocity, plus a radiator array capable of removing all that waste heat (high temp heat pumps would help). Also an 80 GW array in the asteroid belt is much bigger than an 80 GW array in Earth orbit.

[Anonymous No.15342896]

>>15342289
>rocket does WDR
>no problems
>it's now sitting there fully loaded and has no issues, also there's no launch window to target
Makes sense to just launch at that point. Either there's no issue, and you launch, or there is an issue, and you scrub. No consequence to skipping WDR, especially since they've done one already.

[Anonymous No.15342897]

>>15342810
good luck anon

[Anonymous No.15342902]

>>15342299
Efficient from a Delta V perspective is a consideration to make, but it's not the end-all-be-all. Launching water to LEO inside Starship to refill your ELF fleet would be way easier, way simpler, have a massively smaller logistical tail to deal with, and honestly would likely be the much cheaper option for the next hundred years anyway, until space industry is so ubiquitous that we're mostly just launching people from Earth and building our vehicles and machines in space instead.
I tend to forget this myself, but Starship has a good chance of beating the optimistic cost/kg payload figures of goddamn space elevators. We all should try to reevaluate all these 80's 90's and 2000's orbital infrastructure concepts given how cheap LEO access is likely to be in the very near future.

[Anonymous No.15342915]

>>15342896
The point is that the FAA originally wanted another WDR but then said that it’s not needed anymore. Also what you said.

[Anonymous No.15342917]

>>15342517
Simple solution: capture the vapors and "warm" propellants for re-liquification and sub cooling. Now you need near zero shipments to replace losses, and if you have a big enough buffer of supply and capture volume, you can recycle in hours or less instead of days.

[Anonymous No.15342937]

>>15342555
I believe the sea level thrust figure is very wrong unless this thing has an altitude compensating nozzle, also IIRC the bigger timberwind specs were made up by enthusiasts by literally just scaling up the small timberwind directly, and weren't the actual design targets.

Anyway, timberwind would be very cool, though the "oops: all RCC" construction would have given me conniptions. I wonder if carbon fiber composites could be used in the majority of the cold components of a nuclear thermal engine? Could even use metal matrix carbon composites for the hot parts, maybe.

[Anonymous No.15342940]

https://europeanspaceflight.com/europe-will-introduce-a-reusable-launch-vehicle-in-the-2030s-says-arianespace-ceo/
>Arianespace CEO Stéphane Israël said that Europe will have to wait until the 2030s for a reusable launch vehicle during an interview

[Anonymous No.15342944]

>>15342764
Hence the several burns at Pe I mentioned. 8 minutes per burn times 5 times around is 40 minutes of time spent accelerating in the Oberth sweet spot. Really you only lose the Oberth gains on your final burn, since you're escaping at that point and need to run your trajectory up where it needs to go.

[Anonymous No.15342947]

>>15342767
Doable but need vitamin C supplements

[Anonymous No.15342951]

This is months old, but I think it's really interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k9wIsKKgqo

[Anonymous No.15342954]

>>15342859
The only radiation at Mars' surface is UV and cosmic rays. Everything blocks UV, nothing blocks cosmic rays unless it's about ten meters thick. Therefore "antirad" clothing is worthless there.
On vacuum worlds, especially the gas giant moons where high energy protons and electrons make up the huge majority of the dose rate, cozy thick plastic garments will be very useful for blocking over 99% of the external radiation fields.

[Anonymous No.15342957]

>>15342915
Makes sense that FAAgots would impose stupid requirements, thanks

[Anonymous No.15342958]

>>15342940
why the fuck?
they don't want it to compete with ariane 6?
after reading it, apparently yes
this seems like a very bad idea, its the innovators dilemma yes but this organization is wholly backed by the government, they could very well develop a competitor for ariane 6 even if it would mean the operational life of Ariane 6 would be shorter

>According to the Arianespace chief, during the preliminary design phase of Ariane 6, the technologies required to develop a reusable launch vehicle just weren’t yet available.

>“When the decisions were made on Ariane 6, we did so with the technologies that were available to quickly introduce a new rocket,” said Israël

>When challenged by one of the presenters on the assertion that the Ariane 6 has been introduced quickly, Israël stated that “as in many development programmes there have been delays with Ariane 6.” He then quickly pivoted away from the contradiction by describing what programmes Europe was currently working on in an effort to develop a reusable launch vehicle, including the Prometheus and Themis.

>When asked when Europe could expect a reusable launch vehicle, Israël explained that, in his opinion, Ariane 6 would fly for more than ten years. Europe would then look to transition to a reusable successor for introduction in the 2030s.

[Anonymous No.15342967]

>>15342634
There has been a steady stream though. Many days there's like 20 trucks

[Anonymous No.15342990]

>>15342951
Started avoiding real engineering videos at some point, but I guess I'll watch it due to it being shilled here a number of times now

[Anonymous No.15342998]

I guess Musk never wants to see starship launch

[Anonymous No.15343005]

>>15342998
what do you mean? he has been shitposting like that for like a year already

[Anonymous No.15343006]

>>15342958
Avio is making a reusable launcher (and is getting hundreds of millions by the ESA and Italian governent for it), but given their engine size it's going to be at most some Medium launcher. Only Arianegroup could develop a reusable european heavy launcher

[Anonymous No.15343009]

>>15342998
Please don’t shit up the thread with this stuff. Also I work in a hospital and I’m gonna say that COVID deniers are retarded. We had dozens of times more people to care for during COVID. Many of them were very serious.
I understand conspiracies about the vaccine being shoddy, or “big pharma” making extra money, but denying COVID happened is stupid.

[Anonymous No.15343011]

>>15343005
Exactly, why do you think approval has been delayed for so long

[Anonymous No.15343014]

>>15343005
well he's retarded doing so. Just the other day he replied to someone who made up a quote about transgender people being the reason for a Whole Foods closing. that quote wasn't in the article.

come on elon

[Anonymous No.15343015]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1645776771344728070

[Anonymous No.15343020]

>>15343014
cope and seethe tranny
there was a community note on that post anyway

[Anonymous No.15343021]

>>15343015
Lockheed has always been the “least bad” OldSpace company desu

[Anonymous No.15343022]

>>15342998
>why did a respiratory disease not spread during a period where people were taking massive precautions against respiratory diseases
This is such a lame gotcha question and I don't know why people immediately jump to a conspiratorial answer.

[Anonymous No.15343024]

>>15343009
>I work in a hospital
>Many of them were very serious
Please don't shit up the thread with lies

[Anonymous No.15343027]

>>15343015
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/lockheed-martin-makes-a-big-bet-on-commercial-space-and-the-moon/

[Anonymous No.15343028]

>>15343024
Something challenging your word view = lies?

[Anonymous No.15343030]

>>15343027

[Anonymous No.15343033]

>>15343020
why are you lashing out when it was literally fake news? go back to /pol/ please with your

[Anonymous No.15343034]

>>15343028
there are unfortunately many /pol/ retards here

>>15343033
*with your dumb angst

[Anonymous No.15343035]

>>15343022
People are still mindbroken by covid

[Anonymous No.15343037]

>>15343014
Why are “conservatives” obsessed with trannies? The Whole Foods closed because of crime btw

[Anonymous No.15343040]

>>15343034
It’s retarded contrarianism. Modern politics is a joke.

[Anonymous No.15343041]

>>15343030
pretty based desu

[Anonymous No.15343043]

shut about covid and trannies, nobody cares

[Anonymous No.15343044]

>>15343033
>>15343034
>everything that I don't like is /pol/

[Anonymous No.15343045]

>>15343043
my point was that elon is stupid for replying to a tweet that falsified anti-trans news. it's just not a good look.

[Anonymous No.15343046]

Nice lively corona discussion. Did someone launch a new solar probe?

[Anonymous No.15343047]

>>15343027
lol some salty boeing employee

[Anonymous No.15343049]

>>15342517
>>15342917
The methane is reliquified already. Only the Oxygen is vented.
Most of the "3 days of trucks" are liquid nitrogen tankers for methane reliquification.

[Anonymous No.15343051]

>>15343044
denying the 1 million US covid deaths and wishing harm on transgender people is solely /pol/'s game. it is a shame that it has leaked to /sfg/. that board needs to be wiped out.

[Anonymous No.15343053]

>>15343021
so, blue origin buys ULA, boeing ejects themselves out of the space business completely and Lockheed starts making startup-like subsidiaries

[Anonymous No.15343055]

>>15343045
shut up nigger

[Anonymous No.15343057]

>>15343055
I don't get it is this a troll?

[Anonymous No.15343058]

Discussion is about "covid denial" and "wishing harm on transgender people" even though the original statements were about obviously incorrect 0 flu cases and San Francisco being a shithole.
Why do correct statements make you seethe at strawmen so hard?

[Anonymous No.15343059]

>>15343051
>seething this much
I don't think any of 4chan is safe for you I think maybe reddit is more your speed bud

[Anonymous No.15343060]

>>15343049
would have been nice to have a nitrogen liquefaction plant (cryogenic gas plant) on site, I wonder if they are going to pursue that later
a lot of stuff had to be cut to get the environmental review through

[Anonymous No.15343061]

Shut the fuck up holy shit guys

[Anonymous No.15343062]

>>15342990
>Started avoiding real engineering videos at some point
Why?

[Anonymous No.15343063]

>>15343057
nigger

[Anonymous No.15343064]

>>15343058
it was not a correct statement. the tweet that elon replied to said that transgender people were partly the cause for the store's closure, by making up a quote from the article.

[Anonymous No.15343066]

>>15343060
They do have one at the build site.
I'm not that much of a tankwatcher but last I heard a significant amount of the LOX and LN2 tankers were being filled right there and just going down the road.

[Anonymous No.15343068]

>>15343051
go and stay go commie

[Anonymous No.15343070]

>>15343062
too general, too much of the run time is usually completely basic stuff and it gets boring
not sure if this is something that has happened more widely, but videos seem to get longer and longer but the amount of actual info in them stays constant, so you have to slog through massive amounts of pointless drivel to get the few nuggets of actually interesting information

dense, no-handholdy packet of info vs 30 minutes of 101 physics etc and then one minute of something interesting
not sure if it applies to that video as I haven't watched it, but there are a lot of channels that push out similar content now
random b-roll that is somehow relevant to the video itself, lots of slow talking and going through basic shit, one or two cool facts

[Anonymous No.15343071]

>>15343049
Also note this is mostly just concerned with the pre-chill process.
The oxygen and methane filled into the tanks during WDR is largely reused.

[Anonymous No.15343080]

I know
>MUH SPACE RACE TO MARS
is overplayed and unrealistic, but seriously, what would’ve happened if the Soviets got the N1 working in the mid 70s as Apollo was winding down?
Like imagine this:
>Apollo-Soyuz on the lunar surface in the 70s
>Mir is a Soviet lunar base
>Instead of the ISS, we get the “International Mars Mission” in the late 90s

[Anonymous No.15343081]

>>15343049
Also note that the “3 day” figure assumes the tank farm is emptied. IRL, it can carry enough propellant for two full stacks.

[Anonymous No.15343091]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1645806285550669827

[Anonymous No.15343093]

>>15343091

[Anonymous No.15343094]

>>15343070
Also he thinks spinlaunch makes sense and that Helion will achieve net gain fusion.

[Anonymous No.15343096]

>>15343094
>Helion will achieve net gain fusion.
They will

[Anonymous No.15343098]

[Anonymous No.15343099]

>>15343098
>>15343093
>>15343091
Holy fuck is it expendable?

[Anonymous No.15343101]

>>15343022
>respiratory disease not spread during a period where people were taking massive precautions
So you're saying covid didn't happen? WTF?

[Anonymous No.15343102]

>>15343099
its going to land on the FAA HQ

[Anonymous No.15343105]

>>15343101
I know that this post is in bad faith, but COVID is more infectious than the flu and has a longer incubation period, both of which made quarantines and whatnot significantly less effective.

[Anonymous No.15343108]

>>15343051
I don't deny the vast majority of covid deaths. I simply don't care about them.
Trans people would be far better off if they worked to accept that their gender doesn't match their sex rather than attempt to change their sex (impossible). Every person by default needs to accept that they aren't the prettiest or most handsome or tallest or most sociable or most fun. Why do we need to shield trans people from the same reality that everyone needs to deal with? It's infantile.

[Anonymous No.15343109]

https://twitter.com/AFResearchLab/status/1645743630148141056

[Anonymous No.15343111]

Shut up about politics please guys

[Anonymous No.15343114]

>>15343105
There can be both an admission of flu cases being counted as covid instead while not "denying covid" and "denying millions of deaths"
Flu cases in reality didn't go to zero and you have the mind virus if you can't have a discussion about this without going into a fit of rage.

[Anonymous No.15343115]

>>15343108
COVID killed more than double all Americans than WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and GWOT combined

[Anonymous No.15343116]

behead all covidfags, kick covidfag babies into trashcompactors,

[Anonymous No.15343117]

>>15343105
So flu magically disappeared but covid spread to everyone even with "massive precautions"? Then what was the point of the so called "massive precautions"?

Your mental gymnastics is quite elaborate.

[Anonymous No.15343119]

>>15343080
>Mir is a Soviet lunar base
More like
>Mir is a LEO space station that looks like real Mir but each module is Skylab sized launched by N1s
BIG MIR

[Anonymous No.15343121]

Road closure ends in 2 hours and we still have people at the pad. Looks like no WDR today.

[Anonymous No.15343125]

>>15343096
Is this faith or do you understand the physics and disagree with experts

[Anonymous No.15343126]

Road closures for the west of the week cancelled. We’ll see if the launch still holds for next week

[Anonymous No.15343128]

>>15343126
source?

[Anonymous No.15343136]

>>15343125
>disagree with experts
There's plenty of experts working there saying it will work.
Your view of reality is terribly narrow, almost like you're the type of person who would call themselves an expert.
The type of person who has worked on tangential things and then would pretend to know with certainty that Helium-3 Deuterium fusion using colliding FRCs is not feasible.

[Anonymous No.15343137]

>>15343099
Yes, where've you been?

[Anonymous No.15343138]

>>15343117
Can you understand the premise of why something with a low reproductive number that is close to one (seasonal influenza), can be suppressed as a side effect, because of measures and behavioral changes that are less effective against something with a higher reproductive number (codid-19)?

[Anonymous No.15343140]

>>15343111
Trips of guidance

[Anonymous No.15343142]

>>15342889
That is indeed the scope of the problem, but an aluminum can chucker is probably the wrong answer. Hall Effect Thrusters, or a similar equivalent with an innovation that inhibits charged particle erosion from the reaction mass, still work when used with nominally solid elements and metals. The ugly part is going to be delta-time, but that does give you a sufficiently large Delta-V budget.

[Anonymous No.15343144]

>>15343115
And?

[Anonymous No.15343150]

>>15343117
>So flu magically disappeared but covid spread to everyone even with "massive precautions"?
Yes, sans magically.
>Then what was the point of the so called "massive precautions"?
Preventing everyone from getting sick and the same time and thus completely overwhelming the health system. Although in reality most were just poorly planned actions from panicked authorities that were unnecessary and even harmful in hindsight. I'm not sure if you're implying that there weren't any serious measures taken during the pandemic. If so, then congratulations on recovering from a multi-year-long coma.

Sorry for continuing this conversation. Normally I wouldn't except this thread is already on page 9 and there's already a new one up.

[Anonymous No.15343154]

>>15343070
I agree 100%. Stopped watching for the same reasons. Same with Primal Space

[Anonymous No.15343156]

>>15343080
desu a lot of it depends on the timing. If it's just last N1 succeeding + glushko and ustinov not becoming as influencial as they were, the results would be a bit underwhelming.
Shuttle program would still be the main NASA focus, maybe NASA can find the funding for Skylab 2, but I doubt it desu
N1 would be flying, soon enough with NK-33, in theory it was capable of relatively high cadence (Dual launches from 2 pads + at least 4 N1 a year, maybe more) but it'd be expensive (even if less than SV and Energia).
A full crewed lunar landing with LK would be quite unimpressive and I'm not sure they'd get the funding for what is effectively a dangerous stunt, but they may test the lander uncrewed like they did with the Zond missions, or they may do a crewed lunar flyby.
They'd be working on the larger L3M lander and the N1 RD-56 powered Hydrolox upper stage but that's also late 70s at the earliest.
Most likely NASA funds Skylab 2 as an answer -> Soviets fund a N1 launched space station

Also maybe if Keldysh still manages to convince the Politburo of the danger of the shuttle we get some sick N1 launched shuttle
I think that if you want the really cool stuff you have to work earlier, the absolute latest would be some late space race scare: Zond beat the american to the crewed lunar flyby (this was possible), N1 works on the first launch (even if by pure luck), Luna 14 returns sample first (also possible), Saturn V production was already stopping back then, but this may be enough to get all Saturn V used + have a more ambitious post apollo program. Ideally you want to go back to 1963 and have the soviet get their shit together.

[Anonymous No.15343157]

>>15343009
That isn't even what the graph shows; it shows that the Flu disappeared from the data, and that's probably because something about the methodology for reporting causes of death went towards inflating the Wuhan Flu's mortality rate.

[Anonymous No.15343165]

>>15343157
hm yes the comparably minuscule number of flu deaths were necessary to pad up the US covid deaths to 1 million? maybe, just maybe, flu is highly controllable with even shitty masking and halfhearted distancing? something we've known forever?

go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.15343172]

>>15343138
>>15343150
The covid broke your brain lmao. There is no such thing as "overwhelming the health system". That was only in place for first few months, then everyone was forced into covid vaccine by the big pharma in cooperation with government because they did wanted to prove Trump trump.

Its all the tranny brain at work.

[Anonymous No.15343173]

>>15343138
>>15343150
I can understand the idealistic premise.
It certainly doesn't apply in reality and certainly doesn't result in flatline zero for a period years.
Covid came from a lab, masks don't work and trannies are biological women.

[Anonymous No.15343174]

>>15342998
Musk really should be in prison for continuing to spread COVID misinformation. Why can he get away with it?

[Anonymous No.15343175]

>>15343172
you /pol/ tourists are truly obsessed with transgender people, wow. can you please leave?

[Anonymous No.15343178]

>>15343175
>>15343174
You cut off your dick lmao

[Anonymous No.15343179]

>>15343165
I literally had nothing to say about the Wuhan Virus, other than a point about the flu deaths -- which probably still happened at a significant rate -- being lumped in with the number of Covid-19 deaths. /pol/ has nothing to do with this.

[Anonymous No.15343180]

>>15343136
It is 100% certain that their machine will NOT break even on helium 3 breeding and will NOT run even close to aneutronically. Given the high favorability of D-D reactions vs He3-D reactions, and given that their method of energy capture only works on charged particles, it's not hard to see they are going to run into a huge road block when it comes to reaching a self sustaining machine. It will produce most of its energy in the form of neutrons, which won't contribute to the electromagnetic energy capture system. Also, the bremsstrahlung xray flux produced when those hot electrons move around those hot nuclei will remove a large fraction of the plasma energy before it can contribute to the expansion which drives the currents in the energy capture mechanism.

Helion will not work as advertised, full stop.
Helion is unlikely to reach self sustaining operation/net gain.
What Helion is likely to do is contribute to the design and development of a future, much larger, neutron-shielded D-D reactor using the same general fusion principal, dispensing with the gimmicky ideas and acting as a low gain, but still useful, power source running on very cheap and common fuel (no tritium, no helium 3).

[Anonymous No.15343181]

>>15343053
Lockheed buys ULA. It's obvious

[Anonymous No.15343182]

>>15343173
why did you bring up transgender people?

[Anonymous No.15343183]

>>15343119
Remember the Apollo-Salyut proposals? the predecessor to Apollo-Soyuz? Imagine Apollo-MKBS kek.
>>15343156

This would be quite humilating

But then Soyuz-Skylab was also proposed.

[Anonymous No.15343185]

>>15343182
Because he's a gaslighting troll and most of this conversation's participants are probably him samefagging.

[Anonymous No.15343187]

>>15343175
it's like enoughmuskspam

[Anonymous No.15343189]

>>15343182
To spite you. It is obvious from your posts you fall into an ideological camp.
Thus I can attack you for having a position you have not explicitly stated.
One of the two fags whining about it in fact has explicitly stated it already

[Anonymous No.15343190]

>all these unironic subhuman redditors invading this thread
Fuck off christ

[Anonymous No.15343193]

>>15343185
unfortunately I think he's actually just an idiot with /pol/ brain rot. They're on every board now.

[Anonymous No.15343197]

>>15343156
It’s curious to think of how the fall of the USSR would affect all of this, or if it could even be avoided.

An inflection point in the timeline is the selection of Glushko’s Proton over Korolev’s N11 for the Soviet medium/heavy lifter. N11 would’ve proven much of the N1’s tech, including the engines and (most) of the stages. But it wasn’t selected and this N1 had zero flight heritage.

[Anonymous No.15343199]

>>15343014
>>15343033
>>15343045
>why are you bringing up trannies

[Anonymous No.15343200]

>>15343190
>subhuman
>redditors
>invading
take some tylenol

[Anonymous No.15343201]

>>15343190
I always suspected some of these redditors are on 4chan, but thought it was just ironic shitposting. But anyone who bathes in ironic shitposting ultimately becomes shitposter regardless of initial intent

[Anonymous No.15343203]

>>15343200
>>15343178

[Anonymous No.15343205]

>>15343197
Glushko was never in charge of Proton. He just made the engines for it.

[Anonymous No.15343206]

>'why are you brining up trannies'
>he literally bought it up first
I don't get it, how can people be this stupid

[Anonymous No.15343208]

>>15343203
>>15343206
Truly sad to see your brain melted by hate.

[Anonymous No.15343210]

>>15343200
I really don't care, just fuck off back to wherever you came from.

[Anonymous No.15343211]

it's amazing how effective simply blatantly lying and smearing shit over a thread can get (you)s.

>>15343208
who am I hating? you're the person obsessed with eliminating transgender people apparently.

[Anonymous No.15343217]

>>15343208
Why are you here? This entire garbage ""conversion"" just boils down to you being butthurt retarded newfag. Don't like it? Fuck off instead being a whining little subhuman.

[Anonymous No.15343219]

>>15343210
I'm not him, that's a different anon. as far as I can tell there is a single /pol/ anon itt who is just doing the standard /pol/ procedure of being a derailing asshole

[Anonymous No.15343220]

>>15343142
The problem with any ion drive is that you obviously need to ionize your propellant, which costs on the order of MJ/kg. This ionization energy tax does nothing to contribute to thrust, so to achieve the same Isp as a mass driver using an ion drive, your power supply needs to be much bigger. For a small scale system like a spacecraft, it's not hard to get into an energy rich regime where usable TWR can be achieved on ion thrust, but for a very very large system like moving a billion ton asteroid, supplying double the power requirements for the same thrust is very painful.
Also, one major advantage of mass drivers is that they're very flexible in terms of Isp and thrust tradeoff. If you need 1m/s of delta V inside a 2 hour window, say in order to capture into a stable cislunar orbit, you can dial your mass flow rate waaaay up by putting a 1000 ton projectile in the mass drivers and punt them away at ~10 m/s, producing far more momentum transfer per joule of energy, with the tradeoff that far more propellant is being used for that time period, which is acceptable when you're piloting a massive chunk of gravel with blobs of mining spoil hanging around.

[Anonymous No.15343221]

>>15343205
My bad I meant Chelomei

[Anonymous No.15343224]

>>15343211
why are you samefagging?

[Anonymous No.15343225]

>>15343224
>>15343208 wasn't me. why are you still replying?

[Anonymous No.15343226]

>>15343220
Moving an unrefined chunk of space gravel around is never going to be a viable transport model. Move up the electrorefining process into space and use it as a separate machine from the vehicles returning useful materials to Earth, or wherever else they're needed.

[Anonymous No.15343228]

Closures for this week have been cancelled, looks like its straight to launch. Chance of RUD just went up.

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1645832597438873600

[Anonymous No.15343235]

[Anonymous No.15343238]

>>15343228
They’re going the SLS route
>Let’s do a launch attempt and if it scrubs at least it’s a WDR

[Anonymous No.15343241]

>>15343217
Do you need your diaper changed?

[Anonymous No.15343246]

>>15343238
You are a big fat tranny just like SLS

[Anonymous No.15343250]

>>15343246
You poop and pee on the floor and eat the poop!

[Anonymous No.15343253]

>>15343175
take your bleeding gash and go

[Anonymous No.15343255]

>>15343246
Wtf did I do

[Anonymous No.15343256]

>>15343185
>>15343193
trannies get the rope

[Anonymous No.15343257]

report for trolling and move on ffs

[Anonymous No.15343259]

>>15343246
You're a newfag.
>>15343238
Yeah I think it's reasonable desu. Especially given they've already done a full stack WDR with the same vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15343267]

Apparently someone made a thread but didn't link from this one, but anyway
if people want to talk about covid and trannies you can continue to do so in this thread

New thread
>>15342876
>>15342876
>>15342876

[Anonymous No.15343271]

>>15343197
N11 would have been great, and it would have been able to survive the fall of the USSR by becoming the Russian commercial launcher.

Now N1... if its prodction line had continued until 1991 then it'd have flown a few dozen times at least. This completely change soviet spaceflight. IMO the most likely effect is that there is even less soviet effort at satellite miniaturisation, since Lavochkin or equivalent can just build 20, 30 tons satellites and have them launched once or twice a year. I guess this would mean less soviet ion propulsion R&D which would set the world back on it too. Soviets maybe go ahead with their plans to have ultra heavy GSO comsats (they were planning on launching 3 30 tons comsats with energia in the late 80s). If this actually works this could be copied and become an international business case for N1, but I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.15343275]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
https://youtu.be/tlZNU-eh5zY

[Anonymous No.15343289]

>>15343275
>stupid green coated planeshit
>stupid fin in the exhaust stupid design
>looks incredibly stupid in the renders
>literally nothing happens in the video
already hate this thing

[Anonymous No.15343303]

>>15343226
I don't mean to describe an untouched asteroid with a solar array and some thrusters bolted on, I'm more accurately talking about enormous silos of refined solid material attached to one another by naked trusses, with a cluster of mass drivers running down the center, two huge solar array "wings" at right angles to two large high temperature radiators, and a massive hopper of aluminum canisters containing silica rich waste solids. The big rotating industrial drums which are separating silicon dioxide from everything else mined from asteroids would stay at those asteroids, and they'd be producing both the raw product pellets and the propellant cans.
I keep saying silica and aluminum as mass driver propellant because they're likely to be two of the most superabundant inner solar system materials. Of course if fusion becomes practical in space transport, we will be able to get out to the gas giants easily, plus the kuiper belt, which will make water and hydrogen our most superabundant materials to work with, ending the mass driver rocket era in favor of fusion tugs propelled by imported ices/gasses (which will be cheaper despite being farther away, because outer solar system settlements will be hungry for silica minerals of any description. Why drive your spaceship on rocks when 1kg asteroid rock could trade for 10 kg of H2O/He/H2, which would run in a way higher Isp propulsion system anyway?).

[Anonymous No.15343306]

>>15343289
it is quite possibly the most boring possible thing that is is possible to still be excited about
this is it, this is the limit

[Anonymous No.15343308]

>>15343250
What happens to the pee??

[Anonymous No.15343310]

>>15343308
It is expended downrange

[Anonymous No.15343312]

>>15343267
Fuck off nigger

[Anonymous No.15343314]

>>15341003
sooo... how likely is that they actually manage to fly this time?
its been nearly 20 month since they build the first full stack in august 2021, and I've been blueballed so many times with "launch soon" shit I've become depressed.

[Anonymous No.15343336]

>>15343070
https://youtu.be/WeMYW3ZEYfU?t=59
He does mostly tech videos but Asianometry is the only no-fluff technical youtuber I know, he's great

[Anonymous No.15343359]

>>15343336
Agreed
His videos about EUV lithography made me unironically believe economic fusion power is possible and space is easy. If we can figure out EUV lithography to the point that the chips in my phone don't cost as much as a car, anything is possible. That shit is insanely complex: they built a reliable extreme ultraviolet flashlamp using a very similar mechanism as would be required to build a Daedalus fusion engine, precision-timed snd precision-aimed laser pulses and everything.

[Anonymous No.15343374]

>>15343359
>anything is possible
This is objectively true and the final technologypill.
It is also an actionable edge see >>15343326

[Anonymous No.15343395]

>>15343336
>LandSpace/Blue Arrow
whats up with these gay names, its like mangled copycat names

[Anonymous No.15343405]

>>15342739
you don't deserve to be krystal'd

[Anonymous No.15343408]

>>15343405
don't be the hero we deserve but the hero we need

[Anonymous No.15343429]

>>15343062
>>15343070
watched like 5 min of it and its exactly like I remember, that stuff could have been told in under a minute without problems
not only is he talking extremely slowly like the target audience is idiots (perhaps he is aiming for the general population, so starting from 85 IQ) but there is some need to have some long narrative as well
you need to tell some story, which adds a lot of runtime too

[Anonymous No.15343431]

>>15343429
like kurzgesagt videos
they are light, slow, aimed at idiots but at least I can look at some cartoons while waiting for the thing to get on with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I

[Anonymous No.15343489]

>>15343431
lol this vid is about grabby aliens but these cucks have changed the terms to loud and quiet
maybe grabby is somehow politically incorrect

better grabby aliens video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3whaviTqqg&

[Anonymous No.15343548]

>>15342503
Thanks, I needed a laugh

[Anonymous No.15343662]

>>15343359
Agree, EUV is insane, be nice if a fraction of that effort had gone into other fields than endlessly improving silicon chips to run the latest pajeet spaghetti code trash.

[Anonymous No.15344201]

>>15343359
>using a very similar mechanism as would be required to build a Daedalus fusion engine, precision-timed snd precision-aimed laser pulses and everything
That’s only economical because it’s used to make computer chips.
Advanced computer chips have one of if not the highest CAPEX of any industries in the world.
But it works out because electronics sell gangbusters.
You can’t sell raw electricity for as much as computer chips get sold for.