/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15339756]

Is depressed cognitive ability reversible once adulthood is reached?

[Anonymous No.15339791]

>>15339756
Yes.
I've found cortexin and NSI-189 to be incredibly useful for this, I did cycles of 5mg IN cortexin and around 60-80mg of NSI orally

[Anonymous No.15339826]

you're smarter as an adult than you are as a child, retard

[Anonymous No.15339914]

>>15339826
He's talking about the difference in plasticity between adulthood and childhood since its easier to alter things during developmental

[Anonymous No.15339921]

>>15339914
>the difference in plasticity between adulthood and childhood
false premise, i can learn a new foreign language far faster than any child. language acquisition is the go to example commonly used in this area

[Anonymous No.15339933]

>>15339756
cardio is neurogenerative, do with that what you will

[Anonymous No.15339939]

>>15339914
The graphs don’t show major cognitive decline till 60 and at that point crystallized intelligence more than makes up for it.

[Anonymous No.15339977]

>>15339939
>>15339921
>>15339826
im referring to how some people experience an increase in things like brain fog despite not aging very much (this thread was made with the interest of my own situation, having been a much faster and better problem solver in my early 20s compared to now despite a better diet/exercise schedule) though when speaking with others I have seen a lot of anecdotal evidence to suggest this issue might be common enough to be worth discussing.

[Anonymous No.15339983]

>>15339921
>>15339939
You're retarded it isn't a false premise since the premise is reversing cognitive decline from depression, this is not about if a child is smarter or not you absolute buffoons

[Anonymous No.15340016]

>>15339921
>you know less stuff as a baby
>therefore its easier to learn things
maybe that's the reason you're able to learn more as a child. the low hanging fruit hasn't yet been picked. no need to bring plasticity into it

[Anonymous No.15340025]

>>15339933
You got a source for that?

[Anonymous No.15340052]

>>15339977
How's your sleep and how often do you go outside?

[Anonymous No.15340155]

>>15340025
I made it up

[Strange Love No.15340264]

>>15339977

>brain fog

What is that even supposed to mean ...damn zoomies and their imaginary conditions, srsly.

[Anonymous No.15340428]

>>15340264
I’m assuming he is referring to the mental wall that sometimes makes it impossible to decipher complex stuff in textbooks and effectively learn even when I usually have the ability.

I think it is dopamine related as exercise can push me through it and it randomly doesn’t happen as much as it happens

[Strange Love No.15340664]

>>15340428

Ok, so simple concentration issues, got it. So mostly simple fatigue. Might be dopaminergic in our case here, yes, likely not due to exhaustion but due to constant overstimulation ... given that exercise does seem to improve the issue as you just said.

[Anonymous No.15340672]

>>15339756
Yes, it's called "programmed disassociation".
I.e. programming people into a delusional state.

[Anonymous No.15340683]

>>15339914
The decline in plasticity and fertility is the biggest problem humanity is facing right now.
I think it's absurd that we claim that our medical science is advanced when we can't even stop these two things from occurring before people even enter the workforce (because many enter it in their mid 20s after doing a degree).
If you continue that career, chances are you will not be able to afford the lifestyle you had as a child for your own children until an age where you become very infertile.

If these problems are solved in the next year or so, humanity is screwed. It doesn't help that we have a cardiovascular nightmare in this world right now. Potentially the most toxic environment for our body ever, worse than early industrial age pollution.
Hell I'm drinking tap water that I literally piss and shit into and it's barely filtered correctly. Humanity is fucked. We are too stupid to fix this shit now. Not even the geniuses of the planet have the ability to solve this problem. Hell even if they did, some organisation or group out there would likely prevent it for the sake of their own financial pocket. Looking at you, pharma industry.

[Anonymous No.15340691]

>>15340264
Stress is a thing. It really does lead to declines on mental productivity.
Hell, stress can even induce dementia.

The problem is though, merely ostracising stress inducing events from our lives is not going to help us in this chaotic world. The best we can do is train the mind to deal with high stress environments. Sort of like how soldiers train themselves for the stress of the battlefield by building up their tolerance to stressful situations.

I think this place and some other parts of the internet in particular does this sorta well, though it might be a little too much stress at once for many newfags now who haven't had the slow trickle of "pills" from this place. Horror movies sorta build this up too. Physically stressful environments, such as sports environments also helps.

The CIA probably tried to do this in the 60s with lsd, but I think it failed.

[Anonymous No.15340771]

>>15340683
Humanity is fine.
We can rebuild civilization in a few centuries

[Anonymous No.15340896]

>>15340771
There is only a finite amount of resources. Humanity is running out of resources and time.
Though one might argue that the increasing scarcity caused by a cycle makes improvements to each subsequent cycle's civilisation, as it has to adapt in a far more sophisticated manner in order to be successful on that limited resource pool.

Really makes you think about our historical past 2bh.

If you want to go full /x/, you can see why some people believe that there was once a long lost civ that collapsed to primitivism. And that there may be many cycles of that. Then again, there are those that suggest that Mars or Venus was our former planet and that we're merely repeating the same mistakes again.

But I doubt archaeology could ignore such things. We're just the unlucky first cycle. Shit sucks.

[Anonymous No.15340911]

>>15340896
Resources don't leave Earth, anon
The only real non-regenerative resources are the petrochemicals and uranium (and other nuclear elements) as far as I know.
Everything else can be recycled by bacteria slowly if you don't have the energy surplus to do it with machines
There are plenty of places where renewables can support a few million people easily

[Anonymous No.15340927]

>>15340911
>Resources don't leave Earth, anon
Entropy is a thing.
It's not the diminishing resources altogether, but the usability of the remaining resources.
If the quality is degraded beyond a certain point and all the resources left are mere exhaust materials, then we're toast. You won't have life, let alone a successful civ. You have a Mars and Venus situation where the chemical/geological situation is unsuitable to life without the brute force of some event.

In fact, Earth was once like that, but then the brute force of, firstly, the moon impact and, secondly, the great oxygenation and cambrian explosion events, made is suitable.
Regardless, human civilisation would perish at one point before such an event occurs. That's why some people are still looking for signs of such a thing occurring in the past all bodies in the solar system.

Is such a thing even possible?
Yes it is.

Oh god.
I'm getting traumatic flashbacks to a horrible horrible thing.

[Anonymous No.15340933]

This is what we've become, /sci/.

[Strange Love No.15341259]

>>15340691

>The best we can do is train the mind to deal with high stress environments. Sort of like how soldiers train themselves for the stress of the battlefield by building up their tolerance to stressful situations.

Yes indeed. Perhaps being a bit too strict here, just that I see people nowadays getting stressed out by situations that by my understanding should at the very worst be a nuisance (like the annoying buzzing of a fly, something that does not affect your capabilities). Susceptibility instead of resistance. Likely the effect of some chronic stress that is allowed to persist in the background (and as mentioned simply "covered" by overstimulation).

>I think this place and some other parts of the internet in particular does this sorta well

Uh huh. Assuming at least if one can "focus" through the overstimulation it does bring ... or at least actively practice to do so.

>The CIA probably tried to do this in the 60s with lsd, but I think it failed.

Given the rather unspecific and crude effect of psychodelics, heh ... likely did land a few lucky hits and created a lot of collateral otherwise.

[Anonymous No.15342378]

who says children are smarter? adults are far more skilled

[Anonymous No.15342820]

what would you estimate walter whites IQ to be?

[Anonymous No.15342829]

>>15342820
148.8

[Anonymous No.15342857]

>>15342829
he as a digit span of 15, 99.9th percentile