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I asked ChatGPT to construct a coherent system of mathematics in which there exists an integer "thrembo" between 6 and 7. Can anyone here who understands advanced math tell me if this output makes sense and works as a coherent arithmetic system, or is it just plausible-sounding gibberish?

>> No.15319623

>>15319617
>just plausible-sounding gibberish?
you should understand, this is exactly what a generative model does, no matter what.

>> No.15319625

>>15319623
sometimes you get lucky and its random plausible sounding gibberish happens to be correct.

>> No.15319631

>>15319617
I'm not certain about the arithmetic operations but if there's a problem then it isn't obvious to me. Granted, I should have gone to sleep two hours ago so I am not at my best.

>> No.15319635

>>15319625
No, some of it is more plausible sounding than others, but none of it is "correct"

>> No.15319647

>>15319635
That is not true. It can give correct answers, it just doesn't reliably or rigorously (or deterministically). It almost always gives right answers to simple problems though, like 2+2, both plausible sounding and correct. However, ultimately its goal for gradient descent is not to BE correct, but rather SOUND correct, so answers rarely have meaningful applications or implications.

>> No.15319649

>>15319617
I'm being mandela effected here. I swear that the number thrembo used to exist between 6 and 7.

>> No.15319650

>another AI spam thread

>> No.15319653

>>15319649
Is the number thrembo in the room with you now?

>> No.15319659

>>15319617
>I asked ChatGPT
can we please start banning these fucking worhtless threads?

>> No.15319667

>>15319617
complete gibberish because the definition of arithmetic operations are circular. follow the logic and you'll see it loops back without making any progress.

statistical models can not perform logic so they're useless for mathematics in general. avoid such use cases until Sam Altman and his goons can actually prove (pun intended) that the output is logically consistent (hint: it never is)

>> No.15319690

>>15319625
That's because half the input is wikipedia.

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15321590

>>15319617

https://the-scp.foundation/object/scp-033

You fool! You posted it on the internet?! We're all doomed!!!

>> No.15321605
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15321605

>>15319617
>I asked ChatGPT to construct a coherent system of mathematics in which there exists an integer "thrembo" between 6 and 7.
And it violates this condition almost immediately (in the first note), but goes right on blithely and completely unaware of itself.
I think GPT is so impressive to leftists because they have the same lack of self-awareness. It's what lets them continue to believe in global warming after every single major-event prediction to date has failed.
To people like you and I, it's incredibly distracting that the NPC is yammering on happily while completely debunking itself.

>> No.15321608

>>15319659
>can we please start banning these fucking worhtless threads?
Kek!

>> No.15321652

>>15321605
>it violates this condition almost immediately (in the first note)
What, the fact that there's no integer between 6 and 7 in the standard system of integers? It's constructing a non-standard system. That doesn't make them non-integers.

>> No.15321689

>>15319617
Just use a base 11 number system. That’s actually all you have to do. Shit thread btw.

>> No.15322034

>>15321689
that doesn't make an extra number magically appear

>> No.15322037

>>15322034
Yes it does, using base 11 allows you to uniquely name one more number

>> No.15322041

>>15319617
It is gibberish. It is a blatantly self contradictory proof which can only work if the definition of integer is fluid. Saying "it is consistent" even when it is not is a good cover, however

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15322045

>>15319659
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
lol

>> No.15322051

Are you seriously telling me thrembo and derf arent real?

>> No.15322064

>>15322037
yeah but its not a new number between 6 and 7

>> No.15322080

>>15319617
Let a = 10, b = 10, c = 20
>a + b = c
>c - thrembo = (a - thrembo) + (b - thrembo)
by Z' addition
>c - thrembo = (a + b ) - thrembo - thrembo
by commutativity of addition
>c = (a + b ) - thrembo
by definition of equality
>20 = 20 - thrembo
by substitution

It would seem that either Z' addition isn't commutative or else thrembo is surreal.

>> No.15322280

>>15322080
Well it does say "Note that these operations are not defined for every pair of integers in Z'," so maybe assuming thrembo - thrembo = 0 rather than being undefined is where the error occurs.

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15323065

ChatGPT is a grift, you can't get to the moon by stacking up stairs or create AI using finite state machines, like most published AI research, go read "Syntactic Structures" again.

>> No.15323080

>>15322051
I was born on Smarch Thrembo, OP is a faggot like usual.

>> No.15323098

>>15319617
You need chat gpt to do this ?

0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, t, 7, 8, 9
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 1t, 17, 18, 19
20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 2t, 27, 28, 29
>...

>> No.15323149

Thrembo is not real

>> No.15323220

>>15322280
Yeah and I also fucked up by confusing commutativity and associativity