Global warming

[Anonymous No.15317462]

Give it to me straight: Is man-made global warming real?

I'm inclined to think it's fake simply because of the people who are pushing it, that have pushed other lies in the past and present, and how they are using it as an excuse to enslave humanity.
But I will admit I haven't looked into it much yet, it's not as easily disproved even by laymen as the covid lies were for example. Maybe it is somewhat real and they're just using it as an excuse to enslave humanity?

>99% of climate scientists agr--
Yeah we all know by now this means shit

[thefuckingcrowguy No.15317464]

>>15317462
>>15316719

try to think.

[Anonymous No.15317474]

>>15317462
We're dumping massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, we can tell it's fossil fuels due to isotope ratios. We would expect this to increase global temperatures, and they have gone up slightly.

[Anonymous No.15317484]

Why even make this thread? There's obviously no sequence of words anyone can put together that will convince you, you can't understand any explanation given and will either accept or refuse to accept it based on whether you already agree with it.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas, we release tons of it, it makes the Earth warmer. The real kicker though is that while it may disrupt our current lifestyle it isn't going to do jack shit to the Earth except promote plant growth.

[Anonymous No.15317488]

>>15317474
>massive amounts
Compared to what? It's actually not that much, and it's plant food

[Anonymous No.15317497]

>>15317462
Global warming is a meme. The earth is flat with a dome.

[Anonymous No.15317573]

>>15317488
>and it's plant food
Trees can't eat infinite CO2, we're cutting down a lot of trees that do eat it.

[Anonymous No.15317575]

>>15317497
Who controls this dome? Tell him to dial back the thermostat by a 1 degree

[Anonymous No.15317707]

>>15317497

[Anonymous No.15317742]

>>15317462
>Is man-made global warming real?
Yes. It was predicted over a century ago, based on 19th century thermodynamics, so CO2 heating up the atmosphere really isn't novel or controversial. The exact details are a bit complex, though, and most explanations thrown around are too simplistic. Here's how greenhouse effect can be described at different levels of complexity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5DjzOBF8

[Anonymous No.15317745]

>>15317742
completely false, theres been no noticeable or measurable change in the climate over the past half century

[Anonymous No.15317763]

>>15317745
There has been, but you probably know that anyway. Feel free to post your sources so they can be examined, though.

[Anonymous No.15317771]

Its real. Climate change skepticism has been debunked here:

https://skepticalscience.com/

[Anonymous No.15317773]

Its not

[Anonymous No.15317791]

>>15317771
you spam the same propaganda link in these threads all the time, just proves you're incapable of thinking for yourself. if the tv told you it was warm and sunny outside and you went outside and saw it was snowing, you'd still believe the tv

[Anonymous No.15317802]

>>15317791
Exactly! how dare they mention the blasphemous unapproved website! Do not read it! Do not discuss its contents! Do not mention the sources referenced on that website!

[Anonymous No.15317804]

>>15317791
We post the exact same website because denialists dont have anything new or interesting to say. It's all just "UH but der was a blizzard last month so it's fake". All the answers you need and more are on that website.

[Anonymous No.15317810]

>>15317802
many of the people who run that site have financial interest in spinning their tall tales, for example this one would be unemployed if he did anything other than push the big lie of global warming:
>John Cook is a post-doctoral research fellow at the Climate Change Communication Research Hub at Monash University. He obtained his PhD at the University of Western Australia, studying the cognitive psychology of climate science denial. His research focus is understanding and countering misinformation about climate change. In 2007, he founded Skeptical Science, a website which won the 2011 Australian Museum Eureka Prize for the Advancement of Climate Change Knowledge and 2016 Friend of the Planet Award from the National Center for Science Education. John authored the book Cranky Uncle vs. Climate Change, that combines climate science, critical thinking, and cartoons to explain and counter climate misinformation. He also co-authored the college textbooks Climate Change: Examining the Facts and Climate Change Science: A Modern Synthesis and the book Climate Change Denial: Heads in the Sand. In 2013, he published a paper finding 97% scientific consensus on human-caused global warming, a finding that has been highlighted by President Obama and UK Prime Minister David Cameron.

[Anonymous No.15317812]

>>15317804
>denialists
the enemy/boogeyman character
everyone who disagrees with the government funded propagandists is part of a big conspiracy thats out to get you, is that how it is?
the big lie of global warming has been pushed by governments since the 1980s, with no noticeable or measurable change in the climate other that solar cycle variations over the same period of time.

[Anonymous No.15318139]

>>15317462
man's activity has relatively minuscule impact on climate compared to things like variation in the activity of... the sun. And big volcanic eruptions. sure, we have an impact but we can't hold a candle to the real players.

the data is flawed/misrepresented/disingenuously discussed. This isn't the hottest the earth has been. Temperature data from ground-based stations isn't nearly as reliable as satellite-based measurements - a huge percentage of quality 'weather stations' are based at major airports/within cities. Even something as simple as being around huge swaths of pavement artificially increases the temperature in the immediate area by a few degrees. They fixate on data from the last like 150 years and conveniently ignore historical data we can get from ice cores and such for thousands upon thousands of years.

The climate is always changing, and humans have been lucky to find themselves mostly living within one of the most stable periods of earth's climate in the historical record. Pollution is bad, we need to reduce emissions and get better at recycling and shit like that... but this blind obsession over CO2 and stupidly wasting more resources/causing more problems chasing after CO2 reduction is stupid and leading to all kinds of unintended harms. We should be investing a ton of R&D dollars into figuring out new sustainable/renewable energy methods & into maximizing the efficiency of current tech.

I wanna see some cool shit - like more geothermal stuff; and how about some wave/tide-based energy production tech? Hell, combine a big wave/tide-based energy generation plants/big off-shore power generation using solar or wind and mash that up with some big desalinization plants - that's what I'm talkin about. Fuck oil pipelines, lets make some fresh water pipelines - now we're getting somewhere. Install some efficient water parks/big ass water slides along the way for the kiddos. They can use old wind turbine blades to make the slides, everyone wins

[Anonymous No.15318203]

>>15317462
man changes his environment constantly. Russia fucked over Central Asia..I mean something as simple as growing cotton then fast forward, dooming the entire region to war and famine isn't enough....

[Anonymous No.15318546]

>>15317474
We contribute 2% to the greenhouse effect. Rest is mostly water vapour. Try putting tarp over oceans of you're scared of greenhouse

[Anonymous No.15318705]

You know I just can't give a damn about all these greenhouse gases and positive feedbacks when I know the negative feedback is my boys Stefan and Boltzmann chucking temperature into space at a rate of T^4

[Anonymous No.15318726]

Humans have been fucking up the planet since we learned to hunt. There are plenty of ways to rejuvenate the planet without giving enormous amounts of power and money to unelected beurocrats that want to take away your rights and live like kings. Fuck these professional "activists" who just run around harassing countries who are the ones cleaning up and funding everyone else. You never see these people actually doing any work or showing where all the money they "raise" goes. Rich people don't give a shit about the environment they just want to look like they do while shitting on the lower classes.

[Anonymous No.15318759]

>>15317462
>I'm inclined to think it's fake simply because of the people who are pushing it, that have pushed other lies in the past and present, and how they are using it as an excuse to enslave humanity.
Well no shit.

[Anonymous No.15318762]

>>15317573
>Trees can't eat infinite CO2, we're cutting down a lot of trees that do eat it.
More trees exist now than ever in the history of human civilzation.

You just got BTFO Mr. WEF shill.

[Anonymous No.15318767]

>>15317462
OP your picrel shows why Earth is not a frozen planet like 99.999999999999% of other planets are.

Greenhouse Gas = GOOD because it keeps us warm.

[Anonymous No.15318772]

Real answer, yes but it's China's fault.

[Anonymous No.15318779]

>>15318767
>Food = GOOD because it keeps us alive

[Anonymous No.15319029]

>>15318779
>living off the bare minimum for survival is good because i'm too lazy &/or dumb to do any better
>everyone who isn't on the verge of impoverishment or starvtion is greedy
jealousy & envy
p.s. skinny only looks good on a girl and that is only because girls with flat abdomens are clearly not pregnant, which means that it's not a waste of time injecting sperm into them.
thin men are wimps, there is nothing noble about it.

[Anonymous No.15319075]

>>15319029
>living off the bare minimum for survival
Dumber and more alarmist than anything I've heard from environmental activists.
CO2 is not the only requirement for an enhanced plant growth, some types of plant photosynthesis barely benefit from higher CO2 concentration, and it would take natural processes millions of years to lower the CO2 levels to anything dangerous to our modern plants.

[Anonymous No.15319380]

https://archived.moe/sci/thread/15317462/
looks like SJW political jannie once again deleted the most damning and negative comments about the global warming chicken littles from the global warming thread.
pretty much proves global warming is a lie if the only way they can make their case is by censoring criticism

[Anonymous No.15319384]

>>15318767
I agree, the greenhouse effect is just spun for the real agenda of running out of oil

[Anonymous No.15319854]

>>15317484
>You're stupid because you don't automatically believe whatever the television tells you like I do.
We've now been "ten years from the point of no-return" with global warming since 1989. "People" like you have the memory of a fucking goldfish.

[Anonymous No.15319859]

>>15319075
>some types of plant photosynthesis
Making up nonexistent genders wasn't enough for you morons? Now you're busy redefining "photosynthesis," too?

[Anonymous No.15319873]

>>15319075
>it would take natural processes millions of years to lower the CO2 levels to anything dangerous to our modern plants.
atmospheric co2 levels were up near 300ppm 120,000 years ago and down to near 150ppm 20,000 years ago, so the estimate you pulled out of your ass in order to make an argument is off by at least 2000%, you don't know what you're talking about, you're just spinning lies to justify your savior complex fantasies

[bodhi No.15319888]

Climate "science" is not science. It is voodoo built on multiple layers of unproven assumptions, theories and shoddy computer models using a 1:1 relationship between carbon and temperature in nonlinear equations that have never been justified and have never been right

[Anonymous No.15319892]

>>15317474
What if it's volcanoes and permafrost changing the isotope ratios?

[Anonymous No.15319894]

>>15317488
It's actually a considerable fraction of what exists in the atmosphere because nature is constantly shitting out loads of it and absorbing loads of it too

[Anonymous No.15319921]

>>15319892
volcanoes are worth looking into, mt pinatubo was the most recent climatologically significant eruption. all that co2 released and temperatures only went down

[Anonymous No.15320009]

>>15319859
>what is C3, C4, CAM
Thanks for admitting you don't know anything about the subject.

>>15319873
Down to 180ppm IIRC, certainly not 150ppm. Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.15320683]

>>15317462
It’s real.
but we have no idea exactly how much of an effect it will have. All of the models are all over the place. And we really do not know with certainty how any given factor will really change over time. with only a few exceptions, like large scale weather patterns. Those who believe we know for certain the severity of the effect of climate change are people who don’t really understand science at all and treat it as gospel when it’s just a tool for thinking about the world.

[Anonymous No.15320917]

>>15319029
>thin men are wimps, there is nothing noble about it.
Society has always agreed with that.

>>15319029
>p.s. skinny only looks good on a girl and that is only because girls with flat abdomens are clearly not pregnan
>>15319029
Interesting. Never considered that as to why men like a flat tummy on a gal.

[Anonymous No.15320920]

>>15319888
thread/

[Anonymous No.15320961]

>>15319859
retard

[Anonymous No.15320988]

>>15317462
>Is it real?
Yes.
>Is it as dire and immediate as the Left makes it out to be?
No.
>Is it still something to be concerned about?
Yes.
>Are the current actions of regulations and carbon taxes effective?
No. Particularly because the world's two biggest polluters (China and India) aren't abiding by climate agreements, and with Africa starting to see accelerated industrialization, it's only going to get worse. We should be putting $100 billion a year into constructing new nuclear plants.

[Anonymous No.15320999]

>>15319384
>the greenhouse effect is just spun for the real agenda of running out of oil
That is why Big Oil finances a lot of the "green movement", to cause oil prices to skyrocket and they make more profit.

[Anonymous No.15321123]

>>15319892
Volcanic CO2 doesn’t have the same isotopic signature as fossil fuels. It’s as simple as that

[Anonymous No.15321138]

>>15319921
Volcanic particulates have a much larger cooling effect than the CO2 they produce

[Anonymous No.15321170]

Warming is good. Cold freezes people dead and account for like 50x the deaths as "heat" does.
People are drooling retarded.
>half the planet is too cold for humans at all
>it's too hot!!!

[Anonymous No.15321173]

>>15321123
>it isn't true because... IT JUST ISNT OK???!!!?
Why are Warmists so incapable of providing rational arguments, scientifically speaking? Is it because their death cult is made up of low IQ people who can't do math, or is it because their death cult is a grift and they know it?

[Anonymous No.15321192]

Picrel is why you can't believe the "global average temperature" data from the "experts." In short, they know nobody can directly measure it for the whole planet, so they lie with impunity.

[Anonymous No.15321194]

>>15317462
>the people who are pushing it, that have pushed other lies in the past and present, and how they are using it as an excuse to enslave humanity
Okay well first off you're a schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.15321252]

>>15321194
>everything is fine
>all of human history and its inclinations are no longer applicable because reddit exists

[Anonymous No.15321260]

>>15321138
So we need more volcanic erruptions?
Nuke a dormant volcano then?

[Anonymous No.15321263]

>>15321173
>Is it because their death cult is made up of low IQ people who can't do math, or is it because their death cult is a grift and they know it?
Both.

[Anonymous No.15321265]

>>15321194
The anon is correct though. Schizo or not, the truth is the truth. It's all about control.

[Anonymous No.15321290]

>>15321170
Yeah, if it weren't for the fact that climate change makes deadly coldspells more likely along with deadly heatspells. The climate is becoming more extreme along with heating up, higher highs, lower lows, whereas the averages are going up.

[Anonymous No.15321301]

>>15321265
>Schizo or not
Why can't we agree that truth and good intentions are being hijacked by evil forces that play both sides? Climage change problems are true and it's also true that solutions are being proposed for other reasons than to save the world like making the rich richer and limiting freedom for the poor. Both are true, why is that so hard to accept?

[Anonymous No.15321311]

>>15321301
Both are true, but the loss of freedom is the main issue. Humans and all life adapt to gradual changes in the climate.
Unless it gets colder and comes another ice age, life will do just fine.

[Anonymous No.15321313]

>>15321301
>Why can't we agree that truth and good intentions are being hijacked by evil forces that play both sides?
Because it's not? You're seriously retarded if you believe this is some "powergrab" by the NWO. Emissions are emissions, whether it's from some yacht owned by Bezos, you driving your car to McDonalds, or some Chinese factory making cheap shit for you. All of them will have to go to 0 equally or we're fucked equally.

The only thing the powerful can do is deny or ignore climate change to save themselves, and denialists are helping them.

[Anonymous No.15321314]

>>15317462
>Give it to me straight: Is man-made global warming real?
No

[Anonymous No.15321315]

>>15321290
>>15321290
Wrong. More warm climate = less extreme weather, due to increases in water vapor in the atmosphere regulating things.

Same reason why the UK is never really warm or cold, the humidity from the warm ocean currents.

[Anonymous No.15321317]

>>15321313
>The only thing the powerful can do is deny or ignore climate change
GOOD. They need to fuck off and do just that.

[Anonymous No.15321325]

>>15321290
>if it weren't for bullshit I saw on tv

[Anonymous No.15321327]

>>15321317
You do realize that unless you're a multimillionaire you're just as fucked from climate change as a 3rd worlder, right? They are ignoring it to your detriment, accept it or not.

>>15321315
>More warm climate = less extreme weather
Objectively false.
>due to increases in water vapor in the atmosphere regulating things.
What the fuck are you talking about? Climate change is weakening the polar vortex, meaning that polar weather is more and more likely to move south in the winter. Example: the Texas freeze of 2021 was not normal, fucking -30 degree temps for 3 weeks is not normal. The UK's weather is moderated due to the North Atlantic Drift.

[Anonymous No.15321352]

>>15321327
>They are ignoring it to your detriment, accept it or not.
Fine! Great! Fuck off! Don't care!
Don't fuck with us with your climate cult bullshit.
FAFO

[Anonymous No.15321355]

>>15321327
>freeze of 2021 was not normal, fucking -30 degree temps
kek They got to around 5-10 degrees F. That's nothing for most people who don't live in a sauna like Texas.

[Anonymous No.15321366]

>>15321355
I get a kick out of these threads.
There's a good book from before all this nonsense called "Times of Feast, Times of Famine" that follows all actual written testimony (not ALL of course, but a large swathe) in Europe from the 1500s through late 1700s as far as art, local records, etc.
When the glaciers started receding in the early 1700s there were literally singing praises to the Lord and having festivals because they'd all been starving to death and freezing dead in the winters and they thought it would never end.

Now retards are like MUH GLACIERS ARE RECEDING NOOOOOOO!!!

[Anonymous No.15321371]

>>15319888
Trips of truth.

[Anonymous No.15321379]

>>15321366
Oh yes, because desertification and drought is somehow better than extreme winters (both of which are happening under climate change btw). It's almost like... extreme weather is bad for humanity, who would have thought.

[Anonymous No.15321403]

>>15321366
>When the glaciers started receding in the early 1700s there were literally singing praises to the Lord and having festivals because they'd all been starving to death and freezing dead in the winters and they thought it would never end.
Yep. warm is better than cold. 99.99999999999% of planets are too cold for life.
Earth is lucky we have greenhouse effect. Without it, we'd all be frozen solid.

[Anonymous No.15321404]

>>15321379
>happening under climate change
Doesn't exist. You are in a cult.

[Anonymous No.15321539]

>>15321379
>It's hotter, but also colder, which proves it's hotter.
You really are in a cult.

[Anonymous No.15321599]

>>15318139
>activity of... the sun

[Anonymous No.15321673]

>>15321599
>light is the only thing produced by the sun
Wow, you really are in a cult.

[Anonymous No.15321681]

>>15321673

[Anonymous No.15321683]

>>15321599
>source .gov
>i come to 4chan to shill government propaganda

[Anonymous No.15321685]

>>15317462

[Anonymous No.15321698]

>>15321173
>Isotope data from the air isn’t real because I say so
Ok dude

[Anonymous No.15321703]

>>15321698
>isotope data from le volcano is always the le different because I JUST HECKIN BELIEVE IT IS OK?!?!!?!?

[Anonymous No.15321776]

>>15321703
Yes it's a pretty simple measurement done on gasses coming from both sources.

[Anonymous No.15321797]

>>15321776
>muh isotopes! It's so y ence fool! for reals isotopes bro! no kidding! the isotopes!

[Anonymous No.15321799]

>>15321797
>no arguments

[Anonymous No.15321814]

>>15321799
"He who argues with fool, is bigger fool himself." - Confucius.

[Anonymous No.15321818]

>>15321799
ooooh you just got BTFO to da max yo!>>15321814

[Anonymous No.15321823]

>>15321814
>>15321818
Not understanding such a basic concepts like isotopes is pretty foolish.

[Anonymous No.15321882]

>>15321776
And you know for a fact that it's always different all the time every single time no matter what because...?

[Anonymous No.15321914]

>>15321823
>keeps saying "isotopes" to try to sound sciencey.
You are like a blackie who learned a new fancy word and keeps repeating it in every sentence.

[Anonymous No.15322021]

>>15321823
The physics of radioisotopes decay and isotope effects on organic matter are always true, yes. It’s not a hard concept to understand.

[Anonymous No.15322340]

>>15317462
how can you proof it's not real?

[Anonymous No.15322343]

>>15321683
4chan: owner of the absolute truth

[Anonymous No.15322426]

>>15321313
>You're seriously retarded if you believe this is some "powergrab" by the NWO. Emissions are emissions
You're retarded if you don't see that proposed solutions are counterproductive and distribute the costs unfairly. For example: some biofuels have been exposed to be higher emission than standard fuels. Other example: rising gas prices motivate people to burn higher emission alternatives. Other example: rich people can keep flying and eating meat because they can pay for it. So it's okay for the rich ro sin because they can pay for forgiveness and enter heaven anyway. Another example: using farmers land to house more immigrants.

Solutions needs to be more valid, reliable and fair to win trust in the climate change agenda. If you're not willing to admit this, you're starting a war and you will get what you deserve.

[Anonymous No.15322658]

>>15318767
How much Greenhouse gas do you want to get the right temperature?
>yes

[Anonymous No.15322668]

>>15318139
I see constant sunfagging by retarded boomers coping with the reality of global warming. What's funny is none of the sunfags know jack shit about the sun.

[Anonymous No.15322697]

>>15318762
Enlighten me with the source of your affirmations.
Otherwise kys

[Anonymous No.15322728]

>>15317462
>an excuse to enslave humanity.
Let me know when somebody actually enslaves humanity.

[Anonymous No.15322764]

>>15322728
You're so enslaved that you don't even recognize that you are a biologically programmed and socially conditioned feedback mechanism geared to survive and reproduce by competing in and conforming to social hierarchies that control your mind and body with pain/pleasure and punishment/reward.

[Anonymous No.15322835]

>>15318762
>this one girl is a shill so global warming isn't real

Greta isn't even a climate researcher. this has to be the cringiest argument spewed by these dumb fucks and that's really saying a lot

[Anonymous No.15322845]

>>15317462
>simply because of the people who are pushing it
They take advantage of stuff, it's real but overblown
Why do you want to know? Are you going to violently reduce africa's population? Because that's the only solution

[Anonymous No.15322862]

>rich people abuse thing for their own gain
>therefore thing isn't real

[Anonymous No.15323129]

>>15322862
>>rich people and /sci/ bots create and abuse perception of thing for their own gain
>>therefore perception of thing isn't real
>what is the reality of the thing?
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.15323175]

>>15323129
That's just admitting you can't understand the science with extra steps.

[Anonymous No.15323270]

>>15323175
>That's just admitting you can't understand the science with extra steps.
I don't need to be a chef to know that your cooking tastes bad. You're admitting that scientists can't explain to laymen how they ensure a clear distinction between facts and storytelling, because there is no such ensurance (anymore).

[Anonymous No.15323353]

>>15323270
>I don't need to be a chef to know that your cooking tastes bad.
Now you're just admitting I was right with extra steps.
>You're admitting that scientists can't explain to laymen how they ensure a clear distinction between facts and storytelling, because there is no such ensurance (anymore).
Just because you make shit up doesn't mean everyone else does. Your failure to bother learning how to tell the two apart, or how scientists tell the two apart, is nobody's failing but your own. You just invent conspiracy theories to justify your laziness. Nobody buys it. We just find you pathetic.

[Anonymous No.15323385]

>>15317462
Fundamentally it doesnt matter as we cant live without gas, oil and coal and not using them would bring so much poverty everyone would want them back. Rejecting fuel is a silly academic exercise you do when you have fuel.

[Anonymous No.15323437]

>>15323353
I see that you're in desperate need to learn
>Your failure to tell the two apart
As a /sci/ bot you can say that you've measured today's temperature as 4°C / 39,2°F. That's a fact. You can not say that it's cold and you can most certainly not say that I should buy and put on a warm jacket. That's fiction.
>We
Creepy. You sound like Locutus of Borg appealing to hive mind authority.
>>15323353
>You just invent conspiracy theories to justify your laziness.
You're either mistaking me for another Anon or you've gone full schizo.

[Anonymous No.15323557]

>>15323353
>Just because you make shit up doesn't mean everyone else does.
No no no. We know for an absolute fact that climate scientists conspired to make up fraudulent data, because they said so. It's up to them to do even the smallest thing to win back public trust.

[Anonymous No.15323750]

>>15317462
Check ocean thermal energy conversion power plants...

It's defacto global cooling.

[Anonymous No.15324000]

Yes for sure, but you know people do exaggerate the current rate because they either see it as a white lie or earn money from it.
We're doing good progress to curb shit, but if anyone tells you that it's super critical, just tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15324039]

>>15317573
I thought algae were the main oxygen contributor to the atmosphere. With iron salting they would eat a lot more CO2.

[Anonymous No.15324167]

>>15324000
Every zoomer I know literally thinks the world will end before they’re middle aged because of climate change. It’s utterly insane

[Anonymous No.15324171]

>>15324167
They're the most easily propagandized generation.

[Anonymous No.15324444]

>>15324000
>but if anyone tells you that it's super critical, just tell them to fuck off.
the USA federal government has a large censorship & propaganda operation which is aimed very specifically at preventing anyone from contradicting their political narratives, most of the large research universities are involved.
acting like you can just tell them to stfu & gtfo is a bit shortsighted.
4chan is moderated by employees of the Democratic party
https://archived.moe/news/thread/973417/

[Anonymous No.15324515]

>>15324171
their iphones are pretty much physically attached to them.

[Anonymous No.15324548]

>>15323557
>We know for an absolute fact that climate scientists conspired to make up fraudulent data,
Who cares? Only idiots looks at scipoli. Apart it's all "modeled", that means they predict the outcome of a lotto drum. Even on the few correct points, they destroy any reputation with lying by omission

[Anonymous No.15325217]

>>15317462
It is, but it's being used as a weapon to push dracoian measures against society like you said.

>>15317497
Bait.

[Anonymous No.15325245]

>>15324171
It's a lack of work experience. Dealing with ''the science'' either in governmental organizations or technical industries will quickly teach them realities that are nowhere to be found online if you don't already know specifically where to look.

[Anonymous No.15326084]

Greenhouse gas may have reached a saturation point (ie, the Earth won't heat up much more, despite us pumping more CO2 into it):
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2006.03098.pdf
Anyway, there's no reason not to switch to nuclear now, so if climate change pushes us the better, but "renewables" are a huge lie.

[Anonymous No.15326316]

>>15326084
It's amusing: once you look beyond trigger words and actually read the paper, it turns out the value of equilibrium climate sensitivity the authors got (2.2~2.3K) is within IPCC's likely range.
But you stopped reading at "saturation", didn't you.

[Anonymous No.15326327]

>>15326316
>IPCC

[Anonymous No.15326330]

>>15319921
Less than 1 day's worth of anthropogenic carbon emissions. But a significant multiple of sulfate aerosols.

[Anonymous No.15326339]

>>15326327
Yes, this pre-print's results agree with IPCC's findings. Cool, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.15326353]

>>15326339
So why is the IPCC lying about climate doom then?

[Anonymous No.15326368]

>>15317462
Is there any area of science more prophetically tedious and politically captured than climate change?

[Anonymous No.15326372]

>>15326368
Human genetics is a close second.

[Anonymous No.15326387]

>>15326353
That's a pretty vague statement, can you provide sources?

[Anonymous No.15326391]

>>15326387
Why is the IPCC lying about continued CO2 emissions being a calamity if, according to you, they already agree they will do nothing? Is it because they're greedy and power-hungry, or are they just idiots?

[Anonymous No.15326394]

>>15326391
>according to you, they already agree they will do nothing
I have said nothing of the sort - why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.15326400]

>>15326394
You said the IPCC agreed with the preprint that further CO2 emissions are irrelevant. Did you lie? Why would you lie about such a thing?

[Anonymous No.15326409]

>>15326400
I said that pre-print's equilibrium climate sensitivity lies within range reported by IPCC. Not sure where you get all those other straw-men from.

[Anonymous No.15326436]

>>15326400
>You said the IPCC agreed with the preprint that further CO2 emissions are irrelevant. Did you lie? Why would you lie about such a thing?
NTA. Real question is, why are you lying?
>>Doubling CO2 concentrations with water vapor feedback increases the surface temperature warming to ∆θ0 = 2.3 K from ∆θ0 = 1.4 K, or by a factor of 1.6.
Versus what you're saying,
>Further CO2 emissions are irrelevant
Pretty clear who the liar is. As usual. This paper is not even considering the cascading effects of warming leading to further release of currently trapped gasses either.
>>15326409
His ass. Same thing anti-science trolls always get their information from. Thin fucking air and sheer stupidity.

[Anonymous No.15327790]

>>15326436
>His ass. Same thing anti-science trolls always get their information from. Thin fucking air and sheer stupidity.
Yeah, regurgitating lies and childish behaviour seem to be essential ingredients of climate change denial. Notice how he started parroting after I had pointed out his lie.

[Anonymous No.15329829]

global warming is fake