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NASA TO NAME ARTEMIS II CREW NEXT WEEK: https://www.space.com/artemis-2-moon-astronauts-announcement-one-week

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>> No.15313012

>>15312998
>NASA TO NAME NIGGERS AND FAGS GOING TO SPACE NEXT WEEK
FTFY

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>>15313012
3 Americans and a leaf.

>> No.15313032

>>15313023
Leafs are okay. I don't have a massive problem with leafs.

>> No.15313035

okay so when's the launch?

>> No.15313046

>>15313035
check the discord

>> No.15313047

>>15313023
Why the canadian?

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https://spacenews.com/mars-exploration-and-the-debate-about-planetary-protection/

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>>15313047
Cause they're expendable?

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>>15312998

you have to be pretty crazy to get on top of a rocket designed by the US congress for a pointless non-landing flight around the moon that can be flown by remote control. Also if the crew is going to better represent the human population how many Chinese and Indians will there be ?

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https://archive.is/20230330141007/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-29/ses-intelsat-near-deal-to-create-10-billion-satellite-giant

>> No.15313066

>>15313023
>a leaf.
IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE

>> No.15313067

>>15313059
Cause they are leaving

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>> No.15313075

https://spacenews.com/military-space-agency-created-to-go-fast-is-about-to-launch-its-first-satellites/
>and two infrared sensor satellites made by SpaceX and Leidos to detect and track hypersonic missiles in flight.

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>>15313063
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1269ryt/ses_is_in_advanced_talks_to_combine_with_rival/

In a nutshell, a lot of mergers happening in the traditional satellite industry

https://spacenews.com/ses-confirms-merger-talks-with-intelsat/

>> No.15313090

>>15313075
so this was the payload on the launch that was just scrubbed

> By the standards of Pentagon procurements, getting satellites to orbit within three years of ordering them and during a global pandemic would be a remarkable accomplishment for the young agency. SDA has adopted a fast-track approach to build a large missile-warning and data-transport constellation in low Earth orbit.

> The Tranche 0 satellites will fly on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket to a polar orbit at an altitude of about 1,000 kilometers and deployed in two orbital planes.

>The mission will carry eight data-transport satellites made by York Space Systems that will be part of a mesh communications network known as Transport Layer, and two infrared sensor satellites made by SpaceX and Leidos to detect and track hypersonic missiles in flight.

> Frank Calvelli, the Space Force’s top procurement official who oversees SDA, has championed the agency’s approach to buying small satellites under fixed-price contracts from multiple vendors.

> The Transport Layer satellites are estimated to cost about $15 million each, and the Tracking Layer satellites about $40 million each.

>Speaking earlier this year about SDA’s Tranche 0 launch, Calvelli said that once the agency demonstrates it can deliver capabilities to DoD, it will serve as a model for other programs. “I think once we have that success, we’ll see this methodology take off like gangbusters,” he said.

when is nasa going to go full fixed cost contracts? if the military can do it, why can't nasa do it more widely

>> No.15313091

>>15313062
Well those countries aren't doing a manned lunar mission anytime soon but to be fair Aldrin and a few others have criticized Artemis and the Gateway program.

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https://interactive.satellitetoday.com/via/april-2023/satellite-vendors-adapt-to-the-dods-new-spiral-acquisition-model/

>> No.15313105

>>15312998
Read this as "we are gooning"
That's enough internet for awhile

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>>15313108
https://www.alumnifounders.com/
thats a lot of startups, 70 if i counted correctly

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HOP WHEN?

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>>15313118
Imagine the size of Venusian women.

>> No.15313125

>>15313118
a fortnight

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So in fact, there are a lot of companies that are poised to exploit the large cheap payload capacity that Starship is about to bring online, but its mostly still startups that are in their early stages (and I mean they have to wait for Starship to start operations too to start actually doing stuff in space).
There migth actually be an explosion in activity quite quickly after Starship gets online, no need to wait for legacy players that take forever. Startups will start doing shit right away. Makes me even more anxious to see the hop work

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>>15313123
We can only imagine.

>> No.15313145

>>15313090
NASA is a jobs and diversity program now, anon, let it go. All meaningful space advancement in the west will be thanks to private entities.

>> No.15313149

>Clear playing gachashit

Kurea KSP stream wheeen

>> No.15313214

>>15313062
> a pointless non-landing flight around the moon that can be flown by remote control
It's a final validation of Orion's capabilities/full functioning in its operating environment. Apollos 8 and 10 did similar translunar flights. The USSR had an entire program (Zond) whose sole purpose was to fly a crew around the Moon.

>> No.15313219

>>15313149
Kurea? More like urea, heyo!

>> No.15313232

>>15313074
>>15313120
>>15313090
>>15313080
Good posts anon

>> No.15313238

>>15313214
yea but they never sent a fully autonomous Apollo craft around the moon, Apollo 4-6 was entirely in earth orbit. what differences will there even be between arty 1 and 2, other than people being on board? as far as I can tell the only system left to test is life support and between all of the Apollos, the shittles, and three decades worth of space stations NASA shouldn't need a whole entire second dry run just to test life support.

>> No.15313240

More mergers. Should not be surprised as the space market matures and the strong survive.
https://spacenews.com/planet-acquires-slovenian-startup-sinergise/

>> No.15313253

>>15313240
seems more like pure acquisitions, planet keeps buying other companies
Planet labs has a market cap of about 1 billion and revenue of 130 million

>Planet established its European presence in 2015 with the acquisition of Berlin-based BlackBridge and its RapidEye Earth-observation constellation. San Francisco-based Planet extended its European footprint with its 2021 purchase of VanderSat, a Dutch company that gathers data on soil moisture, land surface temperature and other Earth-surface conditions.

>Sinergise is Planet’s six acquisition. In addition to BlackBridge and VanderSat, Planet acquired Salo Sciences earlier this year, Boundless Spatial in 2019 and Terra Bella in 2017.

>> No.15313272

UK bringing some money into the nuclear space game.
https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/our-stories/discover/2023/uk-space-agency-backs-rolls-royce-nuclear-power-for-moon-exploration.aspx

>> No.15313274

>>15313238
> NASA shouldn't need a whole entire second dry run just to test life support
It's a new-ish vessel. Yeah, they've got lots of experience with life support, but there's value in validating the specific implementation of it here. Just as we've been flying orbital missions since the 60s, but still expect Starliner to complete flight tests before bringing it into operational status.
Additionally, the flight hardware should be ready by 2024, while hardware for a landing (or even establishing/visiting Gateway) won't be, and they can't just twiddle their thumbs for the greater part of a decade waiting on other parts of the program to play catch-up.
Orion itself has been in development in one form or another since the 00s, so there's an element of finally flying crews on this vessel designed to fly crews.
And given how the rest of the program has gone, it's probably best not to simply assume everything will be fine for the actual landing attempt; there's a spectacular capacity for things to go wrong. SLS was originally supposed to launch in 2016, after all.

Of course, "merely orbiting" the Moon is a step down from "we landed before and we'll land again". For PR/interest purposes, if I were doing planning I'd try to beat Apollo 13's record for distance from Earth, then fill the media with talk of "pushing the envelope" and going where no man has gone before.

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Finally sent a uni application, last day before they stop taking them. Gonna try and study physics.
See you retards on mars.

>> No.15313294

https://interactive.satellitetoday.com/via/april-2023/how-spacex-alums-are-branching-out-and-shaping-the-startup-economy/

SpaceX is one of the greatest things to happen to spaceflight ever

>> No.15313311

>>15313272
>he still thinks bongs will ever have a space industry

>> No.15313312

>>15313276
what do you plan to major in?

>> No.15313325

>>15313312
astronomy, spacex can't keep getting away with it

>> No.15313326

>>15313325
Make sure not to forget daily seething posts

>> No.15313340

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1641467573920313346

Shutdown Space because we can't drink beer, also we need to preserve earth

#CaseAgainstSpace

E*RTHERS!!!!!! Everyday, they make me rage

>> No.15313341

>>15313312
I'll decide a major the week before I have to submit my choice. But probably astronomy or astrophysics.
If I even get accepted, that is.

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>>15313274
>if I were doing planning I'd try to beat Apollo 13's record for distance from Earth
They'll be doing that as they will be 4000 nmi above the farside compared with Apollo 13's 1542 nmi

>> No.15313365

>>15313340
wtf doug

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>>15313274
>if I were doing planning I'd try to beat Apollo 13's record for distance from Earth
They'll be doing that as they will be 4000 nmi above the farside compared with Apollo 13's 142.5 nmi

>> No.15313380

>>15313366
That should heavily depend on the specific date they launch/reach the Moon. Lunar orbit is elliptical and Apollo 13 went around it near Lunar apogee. Variation in lunar distance to Earth is ~50,000 km/27,000 nmi, so higher altitude wouldn't be sufficient to break the record for most of the Moon's orbit.

>> No.15313381

>>15313341
>>15313325
That's very gay of you anon, astronomy or astrophysics is Neil deGrasse Tyson or Mike Brown. Btw, if you want to have your career ruined now is the perfect time to become an astronomer with so many constellations going up and expanding. Dont be a seething faggot and be an engineer, help us get to Mars instead of bitching about it.

>> No.15313393

If there isn't a single white dude on Artemis II, then NASA is well and truly dead to me. I won't give a shit if they actually make it.

>> No.15313394

>>15313035
Actually launching the ship to the Moon isn't the point of the program and it never has been.

>> No.15313396

>>15313381
i said astronomy as a joke, but the anon actually said it as an option lmao
I mean astronomy might be pretty cool in 5 years or something? Idk if thats enough time for space based telescopes to start getting built and launched, there might be a golden age in astronomy due to cheap access to space

>> No.15313400

>>15313393
Who?

>> No.15313401

>>15313396
That is definitely not enough time for space based telescopes, you're looking at 20 years minimum for far side of the moon liquid mirror telescopes. Otherwise you are absolutely fucked as an astronomer for the first half of your life until we have a reliable presence on the Moon or Mars.

>> No.15313419

So, why was that Falcon 9 launch aborted?

>> No.15313420

>>15313419
SpaceX is finished

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>>15313059
>reusable Canadians
I laugh

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Every little detail is just so comfy VGH

>> No.15313466

>>15313381
engineers are faggots
can't wait for total engineer death

>> No.15313469

>itt people who study something talk about other subjects without knowing what those guys actually do

>> No.15313476

>>15313381
>seething this much about black soience man
he's supremely loathsome but you shouldn't let your hatred of 1 retard cloud your mind

>> No.15313479

>>15313466
Spoken like a true astronomaggot. You will never be spacefaring

>> No.15313494

>>15313479
>astronomaggot
>not astroonomer
classic autist engineer can't even insult people properly. Go design yourself a suicide booth

>> No.15313510

>>15313494
Kek

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https://twitter.com/nasaastrobio/status/1639328215226535938

I didnt see this but this is actually cool, Titan chads wya?

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>>15312998
https://youtu.be/1sFyrfqTdcg

>> No.15313531

>>15313524
Fuck off

>> No.15313533

>>15313522
this mission is the single reason I think astrobiology might be interesting in the next few decades. Not that we might find stuff out there, but that we might rule it out for good.

>> No.15313535

>>15313522
Waiting for inevitable delays and/or cancellation to clear up funds for more heckin’ Mars robots

>> No.15313537

>>15313533
I'll believe you when you show me the ice core sample return mission from europa

>> No.15313542

>>15313449
yeah, unless you are the Apollo 13 crew and start seeing the PART PRESS CO2 gauge start climbing...

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>>15311681
>Continuing the Saturn program might have been better short term (which, mind you, is only obvious with hindsight)
sometimes I like to imagine if they had decided to give the Saturn 5 an extra 10 years of life and had just ordered maybe ten more from the production line instead of shutting it down, with this extra time and Saturn hardware we could have gone ahead with the planned Apollo moon landings in the mid 70s such as Apollos 18, 19, and 20, and still had Saturn 5 rockets available to construct a station in the late 70s, maybe one constructed from multiple Saturn 5 launches (I like to imagine the construction of a Space Station Independence beginning in 1976 and coinciding with the bicentennial) and we still would have had a few left for dream missions like a big long-duration rover landed on the moon or a huge probe launched towards Mars or Jupiter or wherever. I also think they could have developed a cheaper 1st stage that used 3 or 4 F-1s (a case could probably have even been made for developing a slimmed down rocket that used a single F-1 and maybe strap-ons as needed for resupply missions, etc) and I think following this late 70s/early 80s "golden age of Apollo/Saturn" they could have developed a follow on (shuttle? something else?) and enjoyed the 10 years of technological development to make a better and safer product that would have been better than the 70s designed and built shuttle. Oh well.

>> No.15313547

>>15313537
fucking please bro that's what I'm saying

>> No.15313549

>>15313533
Well ruling out Titan for life would certainly be good because you KNOW if there is life in those methane lakes there would be no way NASA trannies would let us use its methane for fuel no matter how basic it is.

>> No.15313554

>>15313544
TLDR? Im not reading that

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>>15313544
incorporating Shuttle into the Saturn architecture might have been good for spaceflight but I find it hard to believe that fully reusable shuttles built in the 70s and 80s wouldn't have cost billions per flight

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>>15313549
Don't worry nothing is alive in that cryonic shithole. Dummies talk it up because picrel.

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https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1641524639254863872

They are getting a vehicle in Artemis V? It is so ogre bros, by that time SpaceX will already have a colony on Mars

>> No.15313563

>>15313544
Yeah, in the scenario where Saturn V production continued, one of the obvious applications would be tossing a large space station into orbit. Saturn V would be inappropriate for routine missions to the station, which would suggest another crewed vessel for LEO operations. The same dynamic that played out between shuttle proposals and a Titan-based capsule would occur, leading to a shuttle selection. An extant station would've provided political shielding against the miserly conditions that prevailed post-Apollo 11, perhaps allowing for a more rational program of shuttle development.

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https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1641525774950735892

>> No.15313569

>>15313555
IRL they traded off guaranteed higher operational costs/lower capability ceiling for lower peak development costs. Perhaps in that timeline, they're motivated to do the opposite and optimize for operational costs/performance at the expense of higher costs during development. That scenario would also mean NASA needing to make fewer political compromises, which would allow it to start off from a far smaller shuttle and iterate its way up as needed/funded.

>> No.15313573

>>15313568
Someone fill me in on Intuitive Machines and Astrobotics.

>> No.15313575

>>15313556
I am the one who docks

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>>15313554
good to hear it, have a great life

>>15313555
yeah, maybe a shuttle/space plane wouldn't have been the best choice as a follow on (although I think evolving the Apollo capsule into a lifting body was an interesting idea) , and in hindsight THE shuttle as built (the STS) was clearly not the best thing to go with

>> No.15313597

>>15313561
>1000km roves
ON THE ROAD AGAIN!
JUST CAN'T WAIT TO GET ON THE ROAD AGAIN!

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https://twitter.com/theprimalspace/status/1641527358099169298

So… Falcon heavy launch right before Starship? Hmmmm

>> No.15313604

not sure how to emotionally deal with SpaceX' diminishing market share and leadership crisis

>> No.15313608

>>15313604
>diminishing market share
Lol. Lmao.

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>>15313575
>Say my name.
>You're damn right I'm Von Braun.

>> No.15313622

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgJ-s3M8Ac

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https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/audio/ep281_mars_ep.11_returning_the_first_martians.mp3
kind of fascinating to hear them talk about the mars architecture in the current day. I wonder how much of that has stayed in NASA.

>> No.15313644

>>15313561
firm fixed price contract, based

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HLS is seggsy

When will we see a prototype?

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https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1641532275908018176

Holy shit, this is the most conservative worst case scenario of SpaceX? Bros, we are so back. Ad astra!

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>>15313681
Speaking of Astra, its so joever for them.

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This is pathetic. Commercial spaceflight once again wins

>> No.15313699

>>15313681
jupiter's moons coming out of left field

>> No.15313703

>>15313699
I mean Dragonfly is going to be at Saturn around that time no?

>> No.15313705

>>15313681
What's stopping them from announcing such program this year?

>> No.15313710

>>15313703
a commercial mission network would be far cooler than one mission by JPL. I really hope this can lead up to crew landings at least by the 2070s.

>> No.15313712

>>15313705
Probably Biden admin. If they cant put a tranny on Callisto then why bother sending a probe?

>> No.15313714

>>15313712
There's a 42% chance they won't even need a return stage as well

>> No.15313717

>>15313714
How did you calculate that?

>> No.15313718

>>15313714
alexa, read "TITAN" by Stephen Baxter.

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>>15313561
>>15313597
> 2 astronauts, 1000 km
You are like little baby
>Thangavelu suggested that NASA replace the fixed-site lunar base approach with a "roving base" that would, in a single ambitious piloted mission, explore multiple candidate base sites and the terrain between them along an 11,000-kilometer traverse route. He called his roving base Nomad Explorer
>The chief element of the Nomad Explorer roving base was the 35-tonne Very Long Traverse Vehicle (VLTV), which would measure 16 meters long, 4.5 meters wide, and 10 meters high. The VLTV would roll on four large wheels, each powered independently by a 120-horsepower electric motor. The complex wheels would change shape automatically to accommodate obstacles and ensure a smooth ride. Typically, the VLTV would move at about 20 kilometers per hour, though it could trundle along at up to 30 kilometers per hour if necessary
>The VLTV would provide its three-person crew with 600 cubic meters of pressurized volume. It would include a control cockpit, crew quarters, a meeting room/galley, an airlock, and a hygiene facility
>an automated "power cart" bearing a nuclear reactor that would follow about a kilometer behind the VLTV to limit crew radiation exposure. It would supply 50 kilowatts of electricity to the piloted rover either through a long durable cable or through intermittent microwave beaming
https://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2023/02/nomad-explorer-1992.html

>> No.15313726

>>15313721
with spaceflight there's always some guy who's proposed something bigger and better, what matter is what we get in the end...
>actually reads your post
hot damn that's actually pretty insane.

>> No.15313732

>>15313721
>11,000-kilometer traverse route
Good lord you could circumnavigate the entire moon at the equator with this fucking thing

>> No.15313739

>>15313686
0 revenue?
what the fuck are they doing?

>> No.15313742

>>15313717
its a well known statistic, no calculation necessary

>> No.15313743

>>15313721
>follows a km behind
So do you expect this to not go wrong anywhere?

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>>15313739
HTOL spacecraft

>> No.15313750

>>15313717
Oh to be innocent and naïve

>> No.15313763

>>15313743
A 1km cable is a bit goofy but microwave and laser power beaming is more advanced today. And a HLS has the payload to deliver them though getting them down to the surface would be tricky

>> No.15313781

>>15313661
If KSP has taught me anything it's that landing that thing on the slightest slope will cause it to tip over and strand your Kerbals.

>> No.15313783

>>15313781
It will land alright but slide at 0.1m/s endlessly down the most shallow of slopes.

>> No.15313816

>>15313783
The absolute state of KSP2

>> No.15313823
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BAHAHAHAH ITS FINALLY DEAD

>> No.15313843

IT'S OVER

>> No.15313846

“We’re so back bros,” its’ so over

>> No.15313850
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>>15313686
>100M$ in cash on December 31 2022
>-50M$ free cash flow per quarter
>6 months of cash before going bankrupt, only 3 left today
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>> No.15313852

“It’s over” bros, we are so back

>> No.15313858
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>>15313850
Stupid bobo tranny, $ASTR to the moon

>> No.15313864

>>15313746
but I mean they have 25 gorillion contracts for engines, why not do some of those between blowing up Nasas satellites
get at least some revenue going

>> No.15313909

>>15313714
does someone have that song someone wrote a year or who ago about a lesbian and black traveling to Mars in a capsule?

>> No.15313953

>>15313561
Absolutely delusional musk stan

>> No.15313968

>>15313953
>stan
Just me that thinks anybody using this word, no matter the context, should be hanged?

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could these trees be used to oxygenate the ISS?

>> No.15313986

>>15313968
I used to dislike it but it’s grown on me in an ironic kind of way I guess.
Anytime I’m on twitter and the algorithm spits out some fag using the phrase “spitter” I want them to be hung and dipped in boiling tar

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs0VIBDG2Yw

>> No.15314009

>>15313986
>Anytime I’m on twitter
Just me that thinks anybody using this website, no matter the context, should be hanged?

>> No.15314019

>>15314009
Anybody not using twitter should be forced to work for blue origin

>> No.15314028

>>15313968
Ok zoomer

>> No.15314031

>>15313984
No.

>> No.15314033

Musk didn't comment on an operational issue of Falcon 9. He doesn't care about the little bird anymore. Sad.

>> No.15314039

>>15314033
Musk went in too deep and started liking the smell of his own farts.
Lets hope when he shits the fan spaceX will survive.

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>>15313743
we have the technology

>> No.15314050

>>15313823
It's not over theyre just ceasing operations (temporary) like Bigelow

>> No.15314052

>>15314042
Do audio fags think coper wire works better if they are layed out like fiber?

>> No.15314055

>>15314050
>(temporary)
>Bigelow
I like your optimism.

>> No.15314058

>>15313721
Just keep the reactor on board, god damn. Nuclear submarines do just fine.

>> No.15314068
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>>15313984
you need an absurd amount of algae to process even 1 human's worth of o2 intake/co2 output. I think currently it's about 400 gallons of highly populated water even with the best genetically engineered algae, but if you also want them to be edible it'll require a thousand or more gallons of growing media for one 80kg male with a BMR of 2200kcal/day - and that's not even close to nutritionally complete by any means, just raw calories.

absolutely not suitable for the ISS or any station that isn't spin-grav sized; it would make a lot of sense on an O'niel Cylinder or a land base on another planet though. the biggest limitation isn't even size constraints, but rather energy. without either a huge solar collector mirror array or massive LED banks running off nuclear generation, the algae won't be able to keep up with a human's consumption requirements.

a very DIY algae farm demonstrator made by Cody'sLab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cEmjtwRgw

production scale algae farm from University of Kentucky, from 10 years ago (it shut down after ~2 years due to lack of profit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI3Al1dpuUY

>> No.15314074

>>15314058
Nice bait, but i wonder how big your heat exchanger should be to keep a nuclear sub reactor cool in the vacuum of space.

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>>15313604
>leadership crisis
where? You mean that african Musk being now King Chud?

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>>15313686
Cope. Just to spite infidels I bought more ASTR. To the mooonnnn

>> No.15314115

>>15314009
Twitter is fucking based. Even when it was run by vijaya and the liberal fags (granted they were trying their best to destroy it)
It’s all about who you follow. After that the algorithm will give you like 80% interesting things and you can follow more people from there.

>> No.15314120

>>15314068
>a very DIY algae farm demonstrator made by Cody'sLab
still waiting for an update on that one

>> No.15314145

>>15314028
Only zoomers use that word larping faggot

>> No.15314150 [DELETED] 

DeSantis will refuse to recognize the NY indictment of Trump, and it will spiral into civil war.
In the confusion, SpaceX will launch Starship in spite of not having an FAA licence, and from Mars rain down rocks on the contemptible Earthers

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>>15314074
same way they manage waste heat on any spacecraft, fuckhueg radiators but even bigger

the ISS currently ditches about 56 KW of heat per ~90min. orbit, for about 40KWh for the total system capacity
>The PVR – the radiator – is deployable on orbit and comprised of two separate flow paths through seven panels. Each flow path is independent and is connected to one of the two PFCSs on the IEA. In total, the PVR can reject up to 14 kW of heat into deep space. The PVR weighs 1,633 pounds (740.7 kilograms) and when deployed measures 10.24 feet (3.12 meters) by 44.62 feet (13.6 meters). When the ISS assembly is complete, there will be a total of four PVRs, one for each PV module (S4, P4, P6, S6)

>> No.15314155

>>15314033
Literal nothing burger, I didnt see anywhere near this much shit you niggers are kicking up over the Crew-6 delay. This time, there isnt even a fucking crew to take care of!

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>>15314150

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>>15313823
>we're not dead yet
>we're just ceasing operations and laying off 90% of our employees
why even pretend?

>> No.15314173

>>15314170
Government gibs maybe?

>> No.15314177

>>15314150
Why would anyone care about that zionist fag?

>> No.15314183

>>15314068
Ok true but consider

>big ass glass/plastic tubes on Martian surface
>0 energy input unlike giga nigga indoor vertical farms
>Can use as massive heat dump radiator for your colony
>Even if doesn't scrub all oxygen will go a long way towards it, for the rest I would just fractionally distill the colony atmosphere and vent excess CO2 or use it some needful industrial process
>Can have a whole ecosystem of shrimp, lobsters and fish that feed on the algae, have little submersible drones harvesting them for food
>Building tubes filled with water is WAY easier than giga nigga human habitable tunnels for farming in

Man I wish I had bought that 10k BTC I was thinking about doing as a teenager, I would be spinning up companies doing shit like this like a madman.

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>>15314150
Imagine. Just for a moment. Living on Mars, digging out lava tubes, analyzing roggs, building smelters, setting up greenhouses.

And not having to give a single fuck about EARTHER nonsense.

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>The Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s success in landing the low-cost Mars Pathfinder mission in 1997 was viewed as proof that spacecraft could be built more often and for far less money — a radical cultural change NASA termed “Faster, Better, Cheaper.”
>This era also coincided with the discovery of a Mars rock that hinted at the possibility of microbial life elsewhere in the solar system. NASA’s reaction was to envision a steady stream of missions to Mars — all done at cut-rate costs. In fact, the next challenge taken on by JPL was to fly two missions to Mars for the price of the single Pathfinder mission. Mars Climate Orbiter and the Mars Polar Lander both made it to the launch pad, on time and on budget, but were lost upon arrival at Mars, resulting in one of the most difficult periods in the history of JPL
>“The Breaking Point” tells the story of the demise of these two missions and the abrupt end of NASA’s “Faster, Better, Cheaper” era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuYDkVRyMkg

>> No.15314197

>>15314173
This.
If they maintain their air launch to orbit capability, they can market it.
They have by far the most flexible launch capability. They just need a runway that can take a 747. They clearly hope the US DoD will use this capability in the next few years.

>> No.15314201

>>15314183
already said it makes sense for terrestrial operation, also
>submersible drones for harvesting shrimp
nigger please we already know how to farm shrimp without that bullshit, put down the pop-soience and pick up a text on real aquaculture
0PPWW

>> No.15314202

>>15313012
At least one tranny.

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>>15312998

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>> No.15314206

>>15314202
Transvestites will unironically never be approved to go to orbit. At least not from NASA. And even if ESA or CSA tried to slip one in a) NASA wouldn’t allow it, and b) the US has too many partners (JAXA, UAE, possibly Saudi Arabia, and others) who would complain directly to NASA administration about it

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>> No.15314211

I really hope o'neill cylinders will have cool trees and shit but realistically speaking they'll be packed as full of materiel as possible and all greenery will be in the form of algae and aquaculture.

>> No.15314213

>>15314211
Nah, any true ON cylinder will need to be fucking huge to be practical (aka more time just a spinhab)
Medium to large spinhabs will definitely have what you’re describing though

>> No.15314216

>>15314213
Even at multi-kilometer scales it's probably more cost-effective to have something resembling a city inside.

>> No.15314217

>>15314197
>they can market it.
To who? If the government really feels they need air launch capabilities they still have Pegasus via Northrop, and that's got a record of actually working.

>>15314208
The rare era where Freedom was an almost completely American project, but NASA was thinking about buying some Soyuz capsules from Russia to use as escape pods.

>> No.15314229

>>15314150
Based.

>civil war happens
>federal agencies no longer apply
>Starship flies from Texas and then Florida
>the two states utilize Starship to bombard Commiefornia and New York with rods from gods
>Civil war ends
>Liberal enclaves are weeping hard

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>> No.15314241

>>15314211
>>15314213
>>15314216
Wild spincels halucinate that there is any chance of their shitty tubes ever being more than bad science fiction

>> No.15314244

>>15314195
>big rock propaganda

>> No.15314248

space vs planetary colonization autism might have been the worst thing to happen to this general

>> No.15314252

>>15314241
Are you the fag asking 'But what if we invent artificial gravity?!' a few threads back?

>> No.15314253

>>15314248
They are the same fags who argued over nuclear vs solar

>> No.15314258

>>15314252
Nah I dont deal in impossibilities, was someone else

>> No.15314283

https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/
Starship renders finally updated on its website

>> No.15314285
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Checking these out now

https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/

>> No.15314288

>>15314241
I’m the second guy you replied to and i’m pretty anti ON cylinder. It seems like a retarded idea to me unless you have so much tech, money, and free energy to spend that you just do it for fun (as in “hey we already have colonies that are thriving, and those are backup plans in case earth gets hits by an asteroid, but this is our backup-backup plan in case EVERYTHING fails).
Spinhabs are cool though. It’ll never be self-sufficient but it’s still a cool way to keep possibly hundreds of people in orbit, or on a huge transfer/ferry vessel between planets. Plus von Braun wanted it so we are obliged to build it

>> No.15314291

>>15314285
FINALLY. Website still says ©2022 though

>> No.15314292
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SeX rocket

>> No.15314297

>>15314288
I don't think anyone thinks O'Neill cylinders will be built in the next few centuries, they're always a cool idea of what to do when the wider solar system is colonized.

>> No.15314306

Btw chopsticks on Booster 7 lowered, and Starship 24 should be heading to the OLM in the coming days. After that we can only blame FAA for not having launched. Whos ready for some FIREWORKS in Max-Q? I would be surprised if they make it to second stage ignition.

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>> No.15314311

>>15314306
Also be prepared for numerous scrubs lol.

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>life on titan

lmao, might as well try and find life in a vat of liquid nitrogen.

>> No.15314319

>>15314309
So about refilling those tankers, would it be another Starship to refill that one then come back from LEO, and how many of these to get to the moon.

>> No.15314323

>>15314319
Tanker Starship variants will likely stay in orbit 24/7, 365 days a year. Likely never coming down unless years down the line when it becomes obsoleted by something much larger.

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>>15314318
Still should explore there. Methalox rockets look so cool, I hope they stay the primary rocket propellant especially since Titan is just overflowing with the stuff. I think once a Mars outpost is set up they should go from Ceres, to Callisto, to Titan. Once we reach Titan and have everything set up to just churn out liquid methane propellant it will be very kino.

>> No.15314330

>>15314323
Right, so is it a Falcon 9 doing the refueling for tankers or is it gonna be Starship throughout the entire process.

>> No.15314334

>>15314330
Why would F9 be in the picture?

F9 is irrelevant as far as SpaceX is concerned. Its a legacy program that has reached the end of tech tree. There wont any any further development because Starship will be better in every single regards.

>> No.15314335

>>15314288
O'Neil cylinders are simply the ultimate flex. As a practical investment they make little sense compared to colonizing planetary bodies, unless everything is already settled or you have so much resources that building them can be undertaken as a secondary project.

Spin habitats are cool and have more middle-term potential. I could easily see a hotel-casino catered to the ultra-wealthy with permanent staff residing in orbit being profitable.

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258 tf

ITS OVER!!! Raptor shits on everything

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/sfg/ bros, we may fight sometimes but this is truly one of the best places to be a space autist on the internet and I hope you all know that we all appreciate you coming here and keeping this general alive.

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>>15314330
What the absolute fuck could even a falcon heavy do? Have you noticed how huge Starship is? Would you use an Electron to try and fill up a S-IVB?

>> No.15314343

>>15314334
>>15314341
Fair enough! Thanks for helping me understand this

>> No.15314347

>>15314335
Yeah yeah I agree. I think they’re retarded [at our current stage of space flight development] and will still be impractical for a long time. BUT. Once you can do it you should do it. Becuase it’s cool.
>>15314340
Based fellow drunk anon. I agree
>>15314337
Ooh good catch. Fuck I love SX. Fuck blue origin, and fuck BE-4

>> No.15314352

>>15314324
Man starship launch gonna be so fucking kino bros. Shame we have to wait another two weeks.

>> No.15314356

>>15314324
The government is trying to kill all cows over methane farts but I guess they won't complain overw giant methane rockets as long as they get cheap spy sat launches.

>> No.15314374

What will realistically be the ultimate fate of legacy aerospace? Including NASA

>> No.15314377

>>15314374
Subsidized by the gov to compete against SpaceX

>> No.15314381

Bros the “2 weeks IRL” thing is now happening to fortnight. I keep reading it and hearing it everywhere. Not even talking about the video game, I’ve overheard it casually used in conversation and I heard it in a whataburger ad on the radio

>> No.15314385

>>15314374
they'll focus on science missions and stop wasting money on launch vehicles
>>15314381
it's just a word that people use sometimes

>> No.15314396

>>15314385
>stop wasting money on launch vehicles
They’re literally called “space exploration technologies” you dipshit
>>15314374
They will be the king for a loooong time. Eventually though, Elon will die. Whoever picks up the mantle of SX will die, even if they run it well. Down the road it will probably go public eventually. They will grow complacent and some new competitor will begin offering better services for better prices and SX will be the new ‘oldspace’

>> No.15314399

>>15314396
It will still have been an absolutely glorious rennaisance for space exploration

>> No.15314400

>>15314374
Pivot to payloads, or to missiles. More divestments/spinoffs of space divisions. Boeing eventually "makes the difficult decision" to exit the sector.
>>15314381
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion

>> No.15314406

>>15314374
>excluding NASA
They'll adapt or die. It might take a few generations of politicians in the latter scenario, but if they can't reasonably compete with nuspace companies they'll eventually fail. I do think that many of the old companies will be able to adjust to a more competitive market, since they still have major advantages over start-ups and it's only going to become more profitable in the future.
>NASA
They'll run the missions which won't be profitable, giving out the launches and such to various contractors but analyzing the data and maintaining the probes/bases/etc. themselves. So basically what it is now, although probably with even more of a private component.

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They really are marketing to coomers… its over

https://youtu.be/Vs0VIBDG2Yw

>> No.15314416

>>15314412
>doesn't know what ASMR is

>> No.15314420

>>15314337
Raptor is absolutely insane. I don't understand how Bob Smith and the lead BO engineers haven't committed seppuku in front of Daimyo Jeff to atone for this embarrassment.

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>>15314416
ASMR sisters… did we get too cocky?

>> No.15314427

You are now imagining the Vulcan Centaur

With SpaceX Raptors...

>> No.15314428

>>15314412
ASMR isn't for coomers

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>>15314420
You dont know the full story of it. LMAO

>2 seconds of testing each day on average for cumulative BE-7 test runs

Meanwhile, SpaceX fires multiple raptor engines lasting hundreds of seconds almost every day

2 sec per day vs 200-600+s per day

>> No.15314441

>>15314374
Legacy aerospace is systemic, and can survive off taylor-made regulations.
Such as "only hydrogen rockets" because muh emmissions.

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>>15314145
Wow you're a real dumb nigger
>>15314150
SN8 all over again
>>15314340
I love you bro but not in the gay way

>> No.15314486

>>15314427
Yeah let me just throw crazy powerful methalox engines onto an expensive hydrogen tank that broke during testing

>> No.15314492

>>15314145
mr mathers is 50 years old

>> No.15314524

>>15313062
It certain will have identity politics as that is the driver of the current executive. After that the US is under no obligation to represent "the human population". Or to share the lunar corridor with anyone outside of our interests.

>> No.15314525

Cute dyke on OffNominal today

>> No.15314544

>>15314525
Shut up meg

>> No.15314580

So what is your favorite celestial body in the solar system? Mine is Ceres

>> No.15314581

Gn bros (except for newfags and solar chucks—I wish you a bad night)

>> No.15314587

>>15314580
Dysnomia... I know, I already gave up the hope of ever seeing a real picture of its surface in my lifetime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysnomia_(moon)

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should I apply? I meet all the qualifications, but idk, I don't really see the future of a company like this when spacex exists, and anyone who wants to be something is copying spacex

>> No.15314604

>>15314587
Thats actually a pretty good one that I’ve never heard of before, I didn’t know Eris had a moon. Are those classified as dwarf moons also? And Space Engine may be the solution to your Dysnomia problem

>> No.15314618

>tfw space travel wont advance fast enough for you to visit habitable worlds
BROS

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>>15314587
>>15314604
Its the least I could do for you. Lil photo of Dysnomia from the surface of Eris

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>>15314622
Heres a zoom in

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>>15314292

>> No.15314634

>>15314633
anyone have "earthers could be here" for thunderf00t?

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>>15314634

>> No.15314639

>>15314633
Holy based

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>>15313721
You are but a child

>> No.15314651

>>15314633
>>15314636
need combined version

>> No.15314655

>>15314183
>>Can use as massive heat dump radiator for your colony
That sounds potentially interesting for dual use for nuclear reactor but I doubt even the highest temperature algae still isn't going to be very useful. I doubt the delta T would be very high

>> No.15314658

>>15314634
https://vocaroo.com/1enxZdziAjaQ

>> No.15314659

>>15314190
Why is everything 8%?

>> No.15314669

>>15314622
>>15314624
Home. It's calling me. I just want to be there, all alone and by myself, pondering about the meaning of existence and everything that there is. The vast and dark sky, seemingly infinite, enveloping me. It's everywhere, I can't escape it. No matter how much I try to avoid it, the abyss assaults me. And it's not alone. Silence, I never realized how unbearable it can really get. Deafening, in quite a literal sense. They creep on me, my only company, for the nearest life form is hours-light away from this barren scenery. An eternity away for a mere human. Is this what true despair feels like? Or did my mind and own self just become irrelevant in the grand scheme of things? Succumbing to my surroundings, all I can do is to sit down and think, while gazing at the endless cosmic canvas lying in front of me... about what this was all really about. How odd, life is.

>> No.15314674
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15314674

>>15314658
KEK

>> No.15314684

>>15314597
Do you want experience? You can apply to multiple places

>> No.15314700
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15314700

The earth should be remained Blue (No relation) and flag should be your favorite color blue

>> No.15314707

>>15314337
>10% more powerful than the RS-25
>costs 1/100th the price
how do they keep getting away with it?

>> No.15314714

wat is clear doin

>> No.15314715

>>15313561
>>15313721

1000 km sounds far, but it actually embarrassingly short. At walking speed of 5 km/h, that's only 200 hours of usage. At Gene Cernan's max speed of 18 km/h, that'd be 55 hours.
I would hope that a pressurized rover (which will no doubt cost NASA billions of dollars) would have a lifetime in the thousands to tens of thousands of hours. And potentially indefinitely, so long as worn-out parts are replaced and maintenance is conducted.

>> No.15314727

>>15314714
ASMR videos with Clear when

>> No.15314740

>>15314727
thats every video already

>> No.15314845
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15314845

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1641705045073829888

>> No.15314847
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15314847

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1641704598246240256

musk starting to give a shit about going to space again?

>> No.15314857

>>15314845
Yeah

>> No.15314870

>>15313023
>>15313012
I fucking hate this

>> No.15314876

>>15314847
Idk why musk is lukewarm about mercury when hes solar panel fag.

>> No.15314878

>>15314847
He always has, he captured twitter because he saw the techfags would be able to stop him with total control over public info.

>> No.15314881

>>15314847
why doesn't Musk or the general normies care about Titan? in my humble books Titan mogs mars for so many reasons.

>> No.15314886

>>15314881
Fellow Titan friend, the main issue is distance. When tech for human maintenance and self suffiency is more advanced it will be the more useful object by far, but by that time we will have permanent habitation on moon/Mars anyways.

>> No.15314895

>>15314876
Musk secretly wants a planet he can terraform, or paraterraform at least. Can't do that on Mercury. He wants a planet where there's a proper "outside", even if it's fairly shitty. That means at least some indigenous atmosphere, and some interesting geology.

>> No.15314896

>>15314881
>Titan mogs mars for so many reasons.
Oh yeah? Name three.
You people take one look at the atmospheric pressure
>wowzers! 1.5 Bar!
and think that is the end of the story.

>> No.15314897

>>15314881
Make a movie with heroes going to Titan to achieve some objective that's a thinly veiled metaphor for Current Thing on Earth. That's how you get normies to care.

>> No.15314899

>>15314897
That's Gattaca

>> No.15314900
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15314900

>>15314896
Titan
>looks cooler
>has more wayy valuable resources
>radiation protection
>orbits Saturn
>easy access to a bunch of valuable moons

>> No.15314903

>>15314896
NTA, but unlimited water/air/fuel on hand as long as you have some fission to process it. For Mars it remains to be seen how scalable water/air in situ will be for long term colonization, also cuts in to the amount of fuel you can make. For Titan the main constraint will be metals to upkeep devices used to process resources. Both Mars and Titan will probably have immense tool upkeep to maintain local extraction and processing facilities.

>> No.15314905

>>15314900
>>15314903
No fisionables
No metals at all really
No gravity
Unbelievable cold
Titan - the fart planet of the solar system

>> No.15314913

>>15314900
For example - those mountains? They're not rock. They're solid farts. That lake is also farts.

>> No.15314919

>>15314905
It all comes down to how much mass must be imported per person to maintain life and systems. We won't know these numbers until we start actually trying to find them out.

>> No.15314922

s24 moving out tomorrow

>> No.15314928

>>15314913
thats based, free farts for the rocket

>> No.15314931

>>15314900
also no low pressure

>> No.15314934

>>15314900
>looks cooler
>>>/lit/

>> No.15314940

>>15314847
>if you don't talk about a certain subject or topic 24/7, you don't give a shit about it anymore
bro you fucking dumb

>> No.15314943

>>15314206
NASA is FAR more likely to shove a troon in there than ESA is
Not that ESA is fundamentally better, but look at this list and tell me with straight face troonery is not Anglo brain-rot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transgender_political_office-holders

>> No.15314949

>>15314943
Anglos are also the only ones to jump through hoops using the "native" names for places
>Beijing
>Turkiye
>Kyiv
Nobody else does this

>> No.15314975
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15314975

>>15312998
Fix'ed

>> No.15314981

>>15314943
that is unless the UK agency rejoins ESA in which case the chances of an ESA astroonaut jump up to 100%

>> No.15314992
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15314992

>nautical miles

Does ULA really?

>> No.15314993

>>15314992
pounds force

>> No.15315000

>>15314992
More authentic than meters
>69 nautical miles = 1 degree at the equator
as opposed to
>The meridian circumference of the earth is 40,000m except not really because we fucked it up because we're 18th century french terrorists

>> No.15315002

>>15315000
60*

>> No.15315004

>>15315000
The french are so insanely dumb it's unreal

>> No.15315009
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15315009

Methalox race to orbit klaxon: Landspace has completed final assembly of the second Zhuque-2 rocket.

>> No.15315013

>>15314992
>so here’s how far our rocket would go if it was a boat

>> No.15315016
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15315016

>>15314992
>>15315000
>>15315013

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15315023

>>15314400
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
You drive a lot, don't you?

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15315042

>>15314881

>> No.15315045
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15315045

>>15314899
>Gattaca
Titan is just a name in that flick, could just as well be any location beyond the Moon

>> No.15315052
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15315052

I fear they're not going to be able to requalify the carbon fiber for flight. Just the engines and avionics.

>> No.15315053

>>15314881
It's cold as fuck

>> No.15315055

>>15315052
how come spacex rocket charring looks so good, like they've come through hell and survived pretty much fine, but RL looks like it's got a bad rash?

>> No.15315056
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15315056

https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1641614060851527680

>> No.15315058

>>15315056
Earther sisters..

>> No.15315059

>>15315056
holy based, I never expected to see such sentiments outside /sfg/.

>> No.15315063

>>15315055
The rocket is mostly aluminum but yeah the interstage on F9 is (unpainted?) CF too.
Falcon 9 is way bigger so it could be that the shockwave is further removed from the surface so doesn't heat the rocket as much.

>> No.15315064
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15315064

https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1641628899607220227

>> No.15315065
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15315065

>>15315056
based but i wouldn't trust Musk to get us there.

>> No.15315077

>>15315055
>>15315063
But to answer the question why it *looks* like ass it's because paint doesn't stick so good to carbon composite as it does to aluminum.
you can see it flaked off rather than that ablated away look falcon 9 has.

>> No.15315081

>all e*rthers permitted to visit Mars must prostate themselves before the tomb of Elon Musk or have their oxygen privileges waived.

>> No.15315088
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15315088

>>15315064
Based Yud, I am now an Ethical Accelerationist

>> No.15315089

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Ob6DaMM2k
i want this fucking thing to launch already aAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.15315091

>>15315056
>https://www.sciencenews.org/article/off-earth-build-future-space-book
>His response: “We’ll worry about that later.”
It's a book about hypothetical questions about space colonization that uses the revolutionary technique of applying past events into the future and asking how they would fold out, then the articles takes the moral highground of saying that space proponents has never ever pondered on these questions and are blind out of their own enthusiasm, the book even
>She quotes experts in fields that don’t often come up in space science: ethics, philosophy, Indigenous history, law.
Which is something that no one, with an interest in space, has ever done nor are subjects, that by their accessibility haven't been discussed to death and has the final hot take of.
>Most of these questions don’t have clear answers. That’s partly because ethical questions rarely do

Might as well go to atomic rockets and learn something instead

>> No.15315100

>>15315088
bro...
what is this

>> No.15315105

>>15315100
anon has gay porn on his drive. It's not surprising.

>> No.15315109 [DELETED] 

>>15314150
I don't see how a Florida governor not recognizing criminal charges against an ex-president can cause a civil war.

>> No.15315115

>15315109
i don't see how you thought this was on topic

>> No.15315120

>>15315100
Peak posthuman performance
You may not like it
But that's what it looks like

>> No.15315136
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15315136

>>15315064
>Yud

>> No.15315138

>>15315136
Does Yud get to go to Mars? Someone needs to make sure the colony AI stays aligned and doesn't go rampant.

>> No.15315167

>>15315136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXARrMadTKk

>> No.15315168

>>15315091
Yeah I was skimming through that and got to the "there is no clear answers" and was like what the fuck is the point of this article or the book even?
just empty bullshit words
everything has been extensively discussed and thought about from almost every concievable direction for like 70 years in science fiction
these niggers should maybe read a book sometime

>> No.15315175
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15315175

F

>> No.15315178

>>15315175
Why not go all the way with 100% and just dissolve everything. What will the other 15% do?

>> No.15315179

>>15315178
search for investors.

>> No.15315182

>>15314876
He thinks large-scale space-based solar power is a waste and we should just be doing nuclear instead.

>> No.15315185

>>15315009
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

>> No.15315188

>>15315182
I like large scale solar thermal for stations and long duration ships to minimise dependence on fueling

>> No.15315190

>>15315055
>bad rash
Its what happens when you work with composites.

>> No.15315202

>>15314658
Lmfao
Thundercunt actually has a really nice voice, he should do audiobooks

>> No.15315211

>>15313686
>>15313850
https://spacenews.com/astra-says-rocket-4-development-on-schedule-for-late-2023-first-flight/
>Astra is still planning to conduct a first launch of its Rocket 4 vehicle before the end of the year
>Those milestones, he said, include completing qualification of the upper stage engine and a full-duration static-fire test of the first stage engine. The company has also conducted testing of the vehicle’s propellant tanks and work on the production line for the vehicle.
It's not flying lol

>> No.15315213

>>15314343
The statement made by >>15314323 was also confusing.
The tankers are what go up and down from orbit to earth. They need a heat shield and be able to land.
The DEPOT is what stays in orbit forever and gets topped up by TANKERS.
The ship doing the mission (HLS, Mars lander etc) then docks to the DEPOT and fills up from there.
You need about 8 tanker flights to the depot for one starship trip LEO to NRHO to lunar surface back to NRHO

>> No.15315224
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15315224

New Arianegroup director, Martin Sion

HM7B project director during the A5 ECA development
SNECMA space propulsion technical director from 2005 to 2013
Chief executive of Safran Nacelles 2013-2015
Chief executive of Safran Electronics & Defense (Sagem Défense Sécurité) 2015-2023

It seems he was one of the main lobbyist for saving the Vernon Vulcain production line, aka one of the main reason for the final design of Ariane 6 over PPH

>> No.15315227

I feel like we are overdo for a big happening; my bones tell me it will be today bros.
Some crazy news will be broken by berger or davenport or sheetz. Or Anatoly will have some random scoop on pockocmoc drama. Or something, but it will happen—and it will be big news

>> No.15315230

>>15315227
Nothing ever happens.

>> No.15315233

>>15315224
>SNECMA technical director for eight years
kek

>> No.15315235

>>15315227
>something, but it will happen—and it will be big news
>Road closure: cancelled
that will be it

>> No.15315246

I've wondered for a while if Nelson only took the reins at NASA because the SLS, the success of which he'd been banking either his rep or his political capital on for years was being threatened by spacex.
Now I'm wondering if it's the same with >>15315224 but with A6.

>> No.15315252

>>15315246
You must take your meds

>> No.15315253

>>15315227
small peppering of small events keep happening

>> No.15315259

>>15315016
>more accurate
[citation needed]
It's a unit based on something at sea level, and not even a good multiple. Really, 69? Did Bill and Ted come up with this?

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15315268

>>15315178
I asked yesterday, and I'm thinking now it might be related to duty to shareholders, because doing this means they merely lose most of their money rather than all of it

>> No.15315275

>>15315224
Is this dude replacing Israel or is that a different position?

>> No.15315296

>>15315224
Typical pedantic, annoying French bureaucrat face, I don't like him

>> No.15315297

>>15315275
Israel is Arianespace.
This guy is Arianegroup

Arianespace used to be a real company with real skills and some independence, but has been emptied out of its skills after Arianegroup (Airbus-Safran Launcher) bought it in 2014. Stephane Israel is really just a marketing guy now.

>> No.15315310

>>15315297
>Arianegroup director is Sion
>Arianespace director is Israel
What is going on in France

>> No.15315322

OLM scaffolding is coming down now.

>> No.15315328

Two more weeks.
Work on the orbital launch mount continues.

>> No.15315332

>>15315310
Lol

>> No.15315336

>>15315310
kek
Sion is actually both a jewish and gentile name in France and Belgium

>> No.15315337

>>15314881
It's TOO FUCKING FAR. Without a fusion torch, it would take us over 3 years to get there one way. We don't have the tech to make that happen.

>> No.15315347

>>15315337
QI drives will give us constant 1g acceleration. 5 days? Halfway to Saturn. 9 days? Halfway to the Kuiper belt

>> No.15315349
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15315349

>>15315088

>> No.15315350

>>15315347
So 5 days to get halfway and 5 days to decelerate?

>> No.15315355

>>15315336
Origin 1
Hebrew ציון (tsiyón) -> Latin Sion -> French Sion
But in french speaking regions there's also
Orign 2
Celtic sedo (peace/tumulus) -> Latin Seduni -> Latin Sedunum -> French Sion
Origin 3:
Proto-germanic: ansuz+helmaz (Aesir's helm) -> old german Anshelm -> German Anselm -> French Anselme -> nickname Ancillon -> shortening Ancion -> Variant Sion

>> No.15315356

>>15315350
Yeah. 10 days. Add ~4 days for launch to the ferry, preparations, orbital insertion, landing preparations, and landing. Titan in 2 weeks

>> No.15315357
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15315357

>>15315356

>> No.15315360

>>15315356
Reminder that it doesn’t HAVE to be exactly 1g. You could do 0.5g. You could do 2g. Acceleration should be tailored so that any destination from Mercury to Pluto takes seven days to get halfway there. It’s called the 2 Weeks drive

>> No.15315368

>>15315088
Looks like he finally conquered metabolic disprivilege (probably due to AIDS)

>> No.15315372

>>15315360
Surely it should get exponentially slower so whenever anyone asks how much longer it's gonna take the pilot can answer "2 weeks"

>> No.15315390
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15315390

Starship getting contracts

https://spacenews.com/astrolab-to-send-rover-to-the-moon-on-spacexs-starship/

>> No.15315409

>>15315390
IT'S STARTING

>> No.15315420

>>15315409
We’re gonna make it bros. Thats right about when I graduate

>> No.15315442

>>15315088
borat

>> No.15315459
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15315459

T-8 Hours to OFT animation

https://youtu.be/hyYqLaeHM7g

>> No.15315465

>>15315390
>when you don't have to design the launch vehicle, cargo lander or deployment mechanism

Ohh this is exciting

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>>15315390
https://twitter.com/Astrolab_Space/status/1641802600331767808

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>>15315466

>> No.15315469
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15315469

>>15315468

>> No.15315471
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>>15315469

>> No.15315476

Historically, planetary rovers have been custom designed for each specific mission. These missions typically have occurred around once every ten years. But with the rapid increase in launch cadence along with the significant increases in payload capacity of launch vehicles, this bespoke approach to rover design is no longer practical or efficient.

>*AIR HORN*
>*AIR HORN*
>*AIR HORN*
>*AIR HORN*

>> No.15315477

>>15315465
Oh shit really theyre doing everything? That would be amazing for start ups, they just have to make their own tech

>> No.15315480
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>> No.15315481

>>15315476
I came

>> No.15315482

>>15315477
I mean that's what I'm assuming, as SpaceX would want to show off the capabilities of Starship with this example of landing a commercial rover

Also now HLS Demo 1 is also practice for commercial cargo landings and not just Artemis landings

>> No.15315485
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15315485

>>15315480
Saturn died for this

>> No.15315491
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15315491

NEIL NO

>> No.15315492

>>15315485
Shuttle cucks btfo

>> No.15315494

>>15315491
>It was totally worth giving up the moon for this!

>> No.15315495

>>15315494
We wouldve been on Mars by now

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15315500

>>15315495
> mid 90s flag and footprints 30 day stay and we never go back

>> No.15315505

>>15315500
This still would have been cool. Even a post-Apollo Venus flyby would have been cool

>> No.15315510

>>15315476
I developed a progressive hatred for rovers as time and missions went on, from them being cool to fucking cancer, Sojourner being the cutest

>> No.15315511

>Formed by a highly specialized team of NASA veterans, former SpaceXers and JPL engineers, Astrolab is laser-focused on providing adaptive mobility solutions essential for life beyond Earth. The team has industry leading experience in terrestrial and planetary robotics, electric vehicles, human spaceflight and more.

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15315512

>>15315390
Who is Astrolab? Are they vaporware? Can they pull this off without CLPS funding?
The real news is that SpaceX is selling cargo rideshare to the lunar surface, which is insane to think about.

>> No.15315514

>>15315511
Any and every aerospace company has ex-NASA and ex-Spay Sexers these days. If you don’t then you’re doing something wrong

>> No.15315519
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15315519

>>15315505
Massive heroic effort missions that don't build sustainable capabilities are poison

>> No.15315528
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15315528

!!! ALERT !!!
Starship 24 at Rocket Garden for moving later today

https://twitter.com/spmttracker/status/1641814705680396291

>> No.15315530

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfT6HIc9OPw
the future we deserve

>> No.15315531
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15315531

kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfT6HIc9OPw

>> No.15315534

>>15315519
Well that was apollo so

>> No.15315540
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15315540

>>15315534
A special case driven by geopolitics

>> No.15315543
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15315543

>>15315530
>>15315531
> teeny tiny ISS type modules
no

>> No.15315544
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15315544

Haumea and it's rings.

>> No.15315547

>>15315544
RANGS

>> No.15315548

>>15315543
Those are the obligatory Italian modules where the Artemis Accords partners will live

>> No.15315549
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15315549

>>15315543
Lunar homes WILL be furnished like Bag End

>> No.15315551

>>15315543
Ty anon very helpful

>> No.15315552

>>15315530
AIEOU

>> No.15315553
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15315553

soon

>> No.15315555

>>15315544
Who do I need to bribe to get a Haumea mission in my lifetime?

>> No.15315556

>>15315547
OF POWUUUUUGGGGHHHHH

>> No.15315559

>>15315543
this is so dumb, its not going to happen

>> No.15315561
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>>15315555
Jeff Greason and his plasma magnet

>> No.15315564

>>15315559
No faith of the heart

>> No.15315568

>>15315564
its just fucking dumb, ship habitats there, reuse the starship for the purpose it was actually built for instead of this retarded salvaging
lmao

>> No.15315570
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>>15315568
It gets abandoned after taking astronauts back to Gateway so building some more to use as a base is nbd

>> No.15315573

>>15315570
for this first version yes, I would argue salvaging one is going to be so much more work than its worth
if there were many of these laying around, then maybe
but even then I kind of doubt it in this early phase of space exploration

>> No.15315574

>>15315568
>implying HLS is reusable after gateway return

>> No.15315576

>>15315570
Not in SLD Option B Appendix P-H1 as assigned by the NASA Exploration Systems Development Directorate Mission Directorate

>> No.15315578

>>15315549
>wood
>offworld
Brutalist inspired anthills, where every surface is multipurpose, are far more likely.

>> No.15315580

>>15315573
>if there were many of these laying around, then maybe
Deliver bulk cargo to the colony with single-use Starships, to be converted into housing after landing.
>>15315578
Underground tree farms, imagine selling the first Lunar hardwoods

>> No.15315582
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>> No.15315583

>>15315580
why would you make starships single-use? the whole point of them is to be reusable

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>>15315580
>Lunar hardwoods

>> No.15315588

>>15315580
>Underground tree farms,
>wasting space, time, and energy on aesthetics

>> No.15315590

>>15315588
>Extra source of O2 bad

>> No.15315594

>>15315588
>waste
Life lived ugly is no life at all.

>> No.15315596
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15315596

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1641827944980168709
Fusion 2024
NTR 2025

>> No.15315601

>>15315596
2 more decades™

>> No.15315604

>>15315596
>1 liter of Helium-3 is $2750
NGMI. Not even for spaceflight where cost is just a number, far too inefficient cost wise.

>> No.15315618

>>15315596
Fusion electricity generation has been 20 years away since the 60s.

>> No.15315620
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>>15315596
>Helium-3
popsci_goodfellas_mush.png

>> No.15315621

>>15315590
> source of O2
What produces more 02, a huge space full of trees or the same space full of tanks of algae?
>>15315594
>Life lived ugly is no life at all.
You're there to make money, for yourself if you're lucky, for the people who own your debt if you aren't.

>> No.15315623
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What did Astrum mean by this?

>> No.15315625

>>15315604
They don't buy the Helium-3 they breed it

>> No.15315626

>>15315623
lmao bout to be cancelled for even hinting at eugenics

>> No.15315629

>>15315620
>>15315625

>> No.15315630

>>15315625
l-lewd

>> No.15315631
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>>15315621
>pathetic man who never goes outside hates trees
KWAB

>> No.15315639

>>15315596
I'll believe it when I see it

>> No.15315640
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>>15315629
fusing He-3 is much more difficult than DD/DT fusion, lets get the latter under our belts first

>> No.15315641

>starship is literally almost ready
>not a single post in /sfg/
Whats going on with you fags?

>> No.15315643

>>15315596
How plausible is using fusion to power spacecraft?

>> No.15315644
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oLEtWeTowo
More Terran 1 cinematics

>> No.15315645

>>15315641
ready to do what?

>> No.15315647
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Why do these SLS cucks on twitter seethe so much about Starship?

>> No.15315650

>>15315641
Still a fortnight to go
>>15315647
who cares

>> No.15315653

>>15315647
some hate Musk I guess, not sure if it goes further than that
I think some of them might actually be working with SLS or in NASA and don't want to be embarrased as they perhaps feel they are partly responsible for SLS?

>> No.15315656

>>15315621
>You're there to make money
What a pitiful outlook on existing. I urge you to live, friend.

>> No.15315657

>>15315640
>lets get the latter under our belts first
that is how they make the helium-3 by fusing D-D

>> No.15315659

>>15315641
>not a single post in /sfg/
can you not read nigger

>> No.15315660

>>15315653
to add to this, its also maybe a bit about public vs private
A private company like SpaceX completely mogging NASA makes private enterprise in general look much better, and if their politics is very leftist, this isn't something they want
private enterprise and markets working very well and better than a government entity is a counter argument for socialism and communism

>> No.15315661

>>15315650
This but unironically

>> No.15315663
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>>15315528
Only two more weeks left, space bros!

>> No.15315664

>>15315618
You added an extra zero.

>> No.15315667

>>15315476
How do JPL niggers sleep at night?

>> No.15315668

>>15315667
With a fat stacks of cash in their pillow case

>> No.15315670

>>15315528
>later today
there is no closure

>> No.15315676
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>>15315543
>Unloading MARACAS

>> No.15315677

>>15315620
Would be cool AF to have one of those.

>> No.15315678

>>15315641
let me guess
2 weeks?

>> No.15315683

>>15315678
Literally yes

>> No.15315684
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>>15315587

>> No.15315685

>>15315587
I tried to generate lunar elves jumping on 200m tall oaks, but it generated the moon in the background everytime

>> No.15315689

>>15315620
but does it have "DON'T PANIC" written on it?

>> No.15315690

>>15315643
More plausible than using it to generate electricity, but that's like saying unicorns are more plausible than dragons.

>> No.15315693

>>15315690
But dragons were real?

>> No.15315703

>>15315678
Fortnight

>> No.15315706

>>15315690
Helion is going to prove you wrong. Fusion has just been run by oldspace types. Just look at ITER and tell me they are doing real things

>> No.15315711
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>>15315640
The best thing about 3He is that it lets the midwits out themselves.
>We have to go to moon so we can mine Helium 3 so we can have fusion power!

>> No.15315717

>>15315711
nobody says this except redditors

>> No.15315718

>>15315711
that sign really seems like a waste of mass, but then it occured to me thats oldspace thinking
with starship you can go anywhere

>> No.15315722

Will starship take of this year ?

>> No.15315725

>>15315722
Yes it will take two weeks of this year

>> No.15315737

>>15315717
Exactly.

>> No.15315738
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15315738

TWO.
MORE.
WEEKS.

>> No.15315742

>>15315711
I still put my faith on the He3 meme because it would be an actual reason to explore the moon

>> No.15315743
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https://twitter.com/AerospaceCorp/status/1641855965753663489

>> No.15315746

https://twitter.com/cknasaboy/status/1641806019935313927

MCC and ISS playing chess lmao

>> No.15315748

>>15315347
A what?

>> No.15315752

>>15315512
Astrolab is composed of SpaceX alumni.

>> No.15315754

>>15315748
A meme drive "Quantized Inertia" aka pseudoscience quantumbuzzwords

>> No.15315756

>>15315746
They should do one between the ISS and Tiangong with Houston relaying which move China chose

>> No.15315759

>>15315756
No fraternizing with the enemy

>> No.15315761
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>>15315717
>>15315737
>not calling it Theylium

>> No.15315763

>>15315761
They should name some extremely unstable version of helium 'shelium'. Heyoo

>> No.15315772
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>>15315756
I’m from ISS and I say E2 to E4

>> No.15315776
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>>15315647
In their tiny brains NASA=Federation, Elon=Ferengi, Romulans or whatever the fuck. The future isn't as gay as they like it so they sulk.

>> No.15315777

>>15315647
>>15315653
Andrew has a pretty bad case of EDS.

>> No.15315781
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>>15315776
Who are the elusive Tholians in this scenario?

>> No.15315784
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>>15315685
I have free fall elves

>> No.15315788
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>>15315485
This would’ve made more sense.

>> No.15315793

>>15315781
ARCA

>> No.15315795
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>>15315781

>> No.15315796

>>15315784
I love the smoke ring concept so much even more than Ringworlds

>> No.15315798

>>15315647
>you have to be basedfacing at the newest ROONDER that's lower fidelity than has been done by third parties

>> No.15315801

>>15315777
I here there's pills for that nowadays

>> No.15315805

>>15315795
Kek good one

>> No.15315807

>>15315788
not with those hydrologgs it wouldn't

>> No.15315808
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>> No.15315810
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>>15315667
The brain drain is real at JPL. The ship is sinking

>> No.15315811
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>>15315718
>with starship you can go anywhere
Not back to LEO from NRHO, which is the problem. How about Aluminum/LUNOX hybrid rockets made on the Moon for that last leg of the cycle?

>> No.15315816

>>15315811
Berger implied it was possible to get SS from NRHO back to LEO a while ago

>> No.15315819

>>15315596
Sam is delusional and Helion is the worst way to do fusion if you care at all about economics and financial viability https://youtu.be/_bDXXWQxK38

>> No.15315823
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>>15315788
>sidemount
never again

>> No.15315827

>>15315808
How do you make a receding hairline look so good though?

>> No.15315828

>>15315656
Let me check - yep, we're still capitalists. Anything more than Antarctic style research stations will be out there because it's profitable to be out there.

>> No.15315834

>>15315772
I'm from Tiangong and I say Cannon forward to celestial rank 7,

>> No.15315835

>>15315816
If it doesn't need a crew to get back to LEO, they could just put it on a slow-boat transfer orbit.

>> No.15315838

>>15315828
Thank you for your concession, there (WILL) be beautiful things on the moon, not mere soulless commie blocks. I don't know why you disagreed in the first place but I'm glad you came around in the end.

>> No.15315849

>>15315811
a signular refueling ship out to nrho is not a big deal if they really can't stretch it to come back or maybe lightly aerobrake the bare steel

>> No.15315859

>>15315828
great, I don't want public money wasted on things that don't bring me anything

>> No.15315878

Richard branson could be arrested

>> No.15315882

>>15315807
Hydrologgs?

>> No.15315890

>>15315878
The only thing he’s guilty of is being retarded and investing his own money into really unsteady industries since like the 70s

>> No.15315894

>>15315890
He killed virgin orbit and made illegal stock movements and cashouts

>> No.15315896

Astra going bankrupt when?

>> No.15315897

>>15315890
kek, the ultimate sucker. Who the hell invests in European train operation? Regulated and unionized up to the fucking ears.

>> No.15315898

>>15315894
virgin orbit was doomed before it got started
launching 200lbs payloads from a fucking plane is retarded and has zero future in anything, it wouldn't even be competitive with other micro-launchers
just fucking retarded all around

>> No.15315900

>>15315896
_ _____

>> No.15315902

>>15315898
>>15315897
>>15315890
>he's retarded
he's a billionaire

>> No.15315903
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>> No.15315906
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chomper

>> No.15315911
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>>15315906

>> No.15315915

>>15315902
sometimes you just need one good idea and enough seed money. See Jeff Bezos, for example

>> No.15315922

Nice work jannies.

>> No.15315923
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You think it will actually launch in April?

>> No.15315927

>>15315923
Yes, with all my heart. Less sure about surviving Max-Q

>> No.15315929

>>15315596
Helion's Fusion tech is cool as fuck. I'd put them probably at the top of the list for potentially reaching stable fusion with energy extraction in the commercial market.

>> No.15315932

>>15315896
Between the newest financials and VO's fate, I give them 3 months

>> No.15315933

>>15315923
No

>> No.15315935
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>>15315932
Shorting $ASTR as we speak

>> No.15315936

>>15315923
Nsf confirmed may

>> No.15315940

>>15315936
Of 2021?

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>>15315929
I think it's neat. If there's any promise to it at all I figure they're going to make a good proof of concept and then run into a bunch of kinks they can't iron out and have the mantle taken up by an established company with 10 times the budget.

>> No.15315942

>>15315936
Link or youre a faggot

>> No.15315944

>>15315940
Shut up dumbass

>> No.15315945

FAA license by April 14th, likely sooner. Launch within a month afterward. No later than mid May

>> No.15315947

https://redwirespace.com/newsroom/media-advisory-redwire-announces-live-event-with-main-engine-cut-off-podcast-previews-full-schedule-of-activities-at-space-symposium-2023/
the collaboration that will shake the industry

>> No.15315950

>>15315945
So, 2 more weeks to FAA license?

>> No.15315951

>>15315915
well amazon has multiple successful sub-businesses and I think they make most of their money from AWS cloud services
I don't know enough about bezos, amazon or aws to know how much bezos actually had a say in it, but just because blue origin is what it is I wouldn't say bezos is a lucky one hit wonder
I have the impression that Blue Origin is more of a hobby to Bezos instead of a real passion, there is no sense of urgency and it doesnt' really matter to him if it succeeds or not, he hasn't been personally involved in it much and I don't really think he has much technical competence in the area
no-sense of urgency is seen on how he talks about how some x generation in the future starts actually doing stuff in space, and not something he or even the children right now would see, its something in the far future and he is just randomly throwing money at the problem basically
but I wouldn't call him incompetent, just disinterested

>> No.15315959

>>15315945
May 2024 btw

>> No.15315961

>>15315947
This is a trillion times better than E3. even JB will be there

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>>15315950
>>15315959
u have nothing better to do than shitpost it seems

>> No.15315968

>>15315906
goatse

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>>15315959
That was a given.

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>>15315965
Lol. Lmao.

>> No.15315982

>>15315951
>I have the impression that Blue Origin is more of a hobby to Bezos instead of a real passion
Then why did the NASA contract drama happen?

>> No.15315985

>>15315982
Literally this

>> No.15315986

>>15315979
?

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>>15315906
> hinge on the reentry surface
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

>> No.15315988

>>15315982
bezos is to spaceflight as twitter trannies are to slacktivism. very loud, very angry, very ineffectual

>> No.15315991

>>15315982
ego

>> No.15315997

>>15315982
Ego and everyone he hired to run the place told him “bro just copy the HLS demonstrator, NASA is sure to give it to you”

>> No.15315998

>>15315997
well that almost worked if it wasn't for some rogue NASA people

>> No.15316000

>>15315987
It’s not a big deal, the real shuttle had that and never suffered a failure from it. Energia II was going to use it. Hell some spacecrafts have had entire docking ports behind their TPS

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Are they even trying?

>> No.15316006

>>15316002
How about your kill yourself. Next time indicate which youre talking about

>> No.15316007

>>15316002
I remember there was a poll and most people thought nat team was going to win with dynetics in second place.

>> No.15316008
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>>15315998
>placed on as acting administrator between administrations
>selects Starship
>leaves
https://youtu.be/X2NmCohQcHw

>> No.15316009

>>15316002
they were doing the most conventional and safe design possible

>> No.15316012

>>15316008
chad

>> No.15316013

>>15316009
>conventional
Yeah for congressional money pocketing

>> No.15316014

>15316006
looks like /sfg/ has it's very own sub 70 IQ troglodyte.

>> No.15316015

>>15316008
AND A REAL HERO

>> No.15316016

>>15316013
yes exactly

>> No.15316018

>>15316008
1000 yard stare. What has he seen?

>> No.15316019

>>15316016
Kek well unfortunately for them, the very people they were trying to please only gave NASA chump change and told them to make a decision. And NASA was filled with ballsy interim people willing to become mariners and right the ship

>> No.15316021

>>15316018
He looked into the palantir and saw Sauron’s army forging the oldspace lander

>> No.15316024
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>>15316008
>>15316002
I remember a funny thing about the HLS announcement, they didnt even have SpaceX on the press call. It was totally out of nowhere and the journos got none of their questions answered. "Please defer to SpaceX" kek

>> No.15316026

>>15316024
How are you supposed to respond to this?

>> No.15316028

>>15316018
>SLS projected cost
>INTERNAL USE ONLY
>DO NOT RELEASE!!!

>> No.15316035

Hey chuds, are you ready to see all the NOT cis white men going to space Monday?

#BLM

>> No.15316036

does anyone have the news article where some guy at NASA got fired because it turned out he was being payed off by boeing? I think it might've been to do with gateway but I can't remember.

>> No.15316039

>>15316036
It was due to HLS, Doug Loverro

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>>15316008
>selects Starship
>gets taken off Artemis

>> No.15316047

>>15316044
Based??

>> No.15316050

>>15316002
>no stars in the background
and this is why SeX is the best

>> No.15316052

>>15316044
They fired her for good after creating that new Moon to Mars office

>> No.15316055
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will the balkans ever have a space port?

>> No.15316056

>>15316055
yeah but they will only launch the rockets into each other

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>> No.15316065

>>15316060
this is how much got blasted out of rogozin

>> No.15316072

>>15314208
If there's anything that deserves the title of Freedom, its a space station.

>> No.15316076
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https://twitter.com/TimFernholz/status/1641861570493046785

>> No.15316079

>>15316024
Blue Origin wasn’t even given advanced notice. They literally found out they lost along with the general public watching KEK
They had an emergency meeting and everyone was crying bwahahahaha

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>>15316076
https://qz.com/exactly-who-is-the-investor-behind-virgin-orbits-failed-1850288151

>> No.15316085

>>15316024
You reminded me of this anime and how terrific it is
Especially the Christmas miracle Kometa and Shutka rescue

>> No.15316090

>>15316060
I really don’t have an opinion on the whole russia-ukraine thing, but I think it’s pathetic how Putin is actively allowing roscosmos to crumble. He would he 1000x more based if he gave a shit and made it a top priority. He encourages cronyism/corruption instead of trying to lift roscosmos up—and for that reason alone he is a huge irredeemable faggot

>> No.15316094

>>15316079
Lmao that was amazing. Plus the news was leaked by Jeff's own WaPo.

>> No.15316108

Can any autists here draw an HLS waifu?

>> No.15316114

>>15316108
No I only draw regular rockets but I gave up on it because it takes too much time
If I got paid for drawing rocket girls I would do it though. Probably. Maybe.

>> No.15316121
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>>15315965
says the frogposter

>> No.15316130

TWO WEEKS
(for juice)

>> No.15316131

>>15316130
UUUUOOOOOGGHHHHHH IM JOOOOOOOCIIIIIING

>> No.15316154
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https://twitter.com/NatReconOfc/status/1641885415773798400
cute!

>> No.15316155

>>15315896
>>15316076
Astra VOX merger when? Get the cost of LauncherOne down and the payload of Rocket4 up?
Also those names suck, cutie reddit names would have been better.

>> No.15316173

>>15316080
>Talks about advancing the UN agenda
>claimed to work for multiple investment firms that are difficult to prove actually exist
>more missing paperwork with the IRS than actual filings
>seems to be allergic to SEC reporting
>personal ties to Zuckerberg and the Obama White House
>advised Obama on renewable energy
>dodged an in-person interview by claiming to have been in a helicopter accident that the FAA said never happened
>was allowed to manage billions of dollars of investments at an impractically young age

This motherfucker glows so bright satellites would detect him as a potential nuclear test

>> No.15316182

https://twitter.com/Scobleizer/status/1641535040629645346
>Yesterday I met the fourth employee at SpaceX. Hans Koenigsmann.
>I asked him how they did the code that lands rockets back on earth so they can be reused.
>“Oh, one person wrote that.”
>What?
>Yeah, it’s better for a single human, he told me, to write it because one person could keep the whole system in their head. Get more people involved and it gets confusing, he told me.

>> No.15316184

>>15316182
https://twitter.com/Scobleizer/status/1641535040629645346
>He admitted other people were involved, but most of it was done by one person.
>Reminds me of @stevewoz who was the last human to have an entire computer in his head.
>So, why can’t Lockheed or Boeing figure this out?
>The committee can’t decide who is smart enough to do the code. :-)

>> No.15316186

>>15316182
based—holy shit I wish I had a job like that

>> No.15316196

>>15316182
I think the dude has a phd in that and did some fesearch in the area (stochastic optimal control)

>> No.15316204

if you spin fast enough will micrometeors get deflected instead?

>> No.15316216

https://mobile.twitter.com/robert_zubrin/status/1641909129726898176

I hate april fools day, already tired after one "joke"
It just gets old very quickly
If everyone is foing absurd shit on purpose, whats the point?

>> No.15316224

>>15316216
Oh its peobqbly about power and bot bombs, lmao

>> No.15316229

>>15316216
Anon...

>> No.15316244

>>15316224
Kill yourself you retard. Type properly

>> No.15316249

>>15316216
>check calendar
>still March
holy based, king zubrin

>> No.15316259

>>15316244
Nigger

>> No.15316305

>>15315643
Hullo sais you can just open one end of fusion reactor to space and it becomes a roggit

>> No.15316307

>>15316216
Yeah its hard as an autist

>> No.15316323

>>15316305
you also need to make the reactor lightweight, durable, and not constantly destroy itself through neutron radiation

>> No.15316328

>inb4 elon tweets a politically incorrect joke tomorrow for april fool's days

>> No.15316335

>>15315915
Bezos is smart and great at business, but his focus on efficiency and steady growth doesn't work for rockets. BO is also not as bad as /sfg/ makes it sound

>> No.15316342

>>15316328
>what will he mean by it?

>> No.15316344

>>15316335
>BO is also not as bad as /sfg/ makes it sound
Where the fuck is their orbital rocket?

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>>15316328
He'll do this but for SpaceX/Twitter

>> No.15316354

>>15316344
In the works, but BE-4 is pretty much done.
They're slow and less cost-effective than SpaceX, but they have technical ability and some ambition. That's a lot better than old space already.

>> No.15316391

>>15315372
Shut up, Zeno scum.

>> No.15316399

Reminder that SpaceX will be at risk of bankruptcy if they don't get Starship flying at a monthly cadence by the end of 2022.

>> No.15316404

So what’s the scoop with India being interested in joining the Artemis Accords?

NASA and ISRO signed a bunch of shit recently, wonder if they will chose to go to the moon with NASA/Artemis instead of Russia/China

>> No.15316406

>>15316182
Not THAT surprising honestly, people talk about the code a lot but the biggest hurdle is the hardware. Getting low latency and precisely throttlable engines seems much harder to me than writing a balancing algorithm

>> No.15316411
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We need a new OP. Can someone cook a thread? Also OFT Starship animation by Ryan Hansen drops in like an hour and a half (or 8PM EST)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYqLaeHM7g

>> No.15316413
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>Alpha has a Hawaiian climate, so we lead an indoor-outdoor life all year. Our apartment is about the same size as our old house on Earth, and it has a garden. Alpha was one of the first habitats to be built, so our trees have had time to grow to a good size.
>You'll notice immediately the small scale of things, but for a town of 10,000 people we're in rather good shape for entertainment: four small cinemas, quite a few good small restaurants, and many amateur theatrical and musical groups. It takes only a few minutes to travel over to the neighboring communities, so we visit them often for movies, concerts, or just a change in climate. There are ballet productions on the big stage out in the low-gravity recreational complex that serves all the residents of our region of space. Ballet in 1/10 gravity is beautiful to watch: dreamlike, and very graceful. You've seen it on TV, but the reality is even better. Of course, right here in Alpha we have our own low-gravity swimming pools, and our club rooms for human-powered flight. Quite often Jenny and I climb the path to the "North Pole" and pedal out along the zero-gravity axis of the sphere for half an hour or so, especially after sunset, when we can see the soft lights from the pathways below.

>> No.15316419
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>>15316413
disgusting. I'm not interested in living in a decadent densely packed tube shaped behavioural sink.

>> No.15316424

>>15316413
If you want to live in a shitty tube city go live in the Line is Saudi Arabia once it's built.

>> No.15316436
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>>15316419
Suppose Mars didn't exist; would you then say that space colonization was impossible/pointless? Or would you say 'there's the asteroids, we'll go to them'?

>> No.15316438

Artemis is going to be the greatest shitposting material, whatever happens.

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>>15316436
I'd say we'd go wherever. If there was no way off earth I'd say go to antarctica. Go to the unforgiving frontiers wherever they are, once things get comfortable you need to move on. I share some other anons' weird obsessions with the remote and unforgiving: the thought of living on dwarf planets in the outer reaches of the solar system would is euphoric.

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>> No.15316462
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>>15316455
> dem multiple Mach diamonds
sexooo

>> No.15316468
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>> No.15316481

>>15316354
>That's a lot better than old space already
That's not a high a hard thing to achieve.
And Rocket Lab is better than BO anyway

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>>15316451
I was messing around with Space Engine, and by complete accident I clicked on a random spot by accident in the solar system, and found this binary asteroid system out in the Kuiper belt, they have very similar masses and orbit a barycenter that is between the two of them. This isn't some Pluto sissy binary stem either. The system is called 2005 GD187.

>> No.15316486

>>15316436
Callisto is the next best option. (Or the Moon if you don't want to travel too far)
Honestly, I barely believe it can be done or that it has a point with Mars.

>> No.15316497

>>15316486
Apart from the view, which would admittedly be amazing, what makes Callisto better than the Moon?

>> No.15316498

>>15316484
Didn't mean to reply to that guy, but still I agree with him

>> No.15316504
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15316504

>>15316497
It has *both* water and metals, in large quantities

>> No.15316508

>>15316497
It's in the Jovian system and doesn't fry you from Jupiter's radiation belt. Do you know what the implications of getting a foothold on the outer planets are? Callisto is the only viable option of the Galilean moons to land on due to the radiation belt, which we can use as an outpost to go further out into the solar system. LAKES of liquid methane lie on Titan, a moon larger than Mercury, just waiting to be used. The search for life continues in the Jovian system with Europan probes as well as in the Saturnian system on Enceladus, along with the endless materials to be found in the asteroids near Jupiter.

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>>15316182
Yes, the best code is written by a single person.

>> No.15316524

s24 roll out soon
then stack? or will they do more b7 testing...

>> No.15316533

>>15316524
Whatever takes the longest

>> No.15316550

Will martian citizens be forced to have tubes into their asses all the time for the sake of collecting rocket fuel?

>> No.15316555

>>15316508
>Do you know what the implications of getting a foothold on the outer planets are?
Actually no. Apart from the fact that it would take a long time to get there, I know nothing about the possibility of colonizing the moons of Jupiter.

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>>15316508
>Callisto is the only viable option of the Galilean moons to land on due to the radiation belt,
Ahem
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/infographics/ganymedes-magnetosphere

>> No.15316571

>>15316550
>Will martian citizens be forced to have tubes into their asses all the time
Yes
>for the sake of collecting rocket fuel
No. It will be as a sign of submission to their O'Neil cylinder overlords

>> No.15316577

>>15316508
nooo you can't use the natural resources of Titan for your spacecraft fuel think of the (possible) microorganisms there nooo stop contaminating muh pure natural laboratory planetary protection stop him!

>> No.15316586

>NASA quite often talks about exploring "deep space"
>They just mean cislunar space and maaaybe Mars
lmao, the absolute state. Deep space should be considered as such when it's at least beyond Sedna's orbit.

>> No.15316590

>>15316586
past asteroid belt is deep space

>> No.15316592

>>15316121
>cirnoposter
>criticizing a frogposter
pot, kettle

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>>15316569
Sorry fren, it helps a bit but not nearly enough. Callisto remains the only viable place for settlement.

>> No.15316599

>>15316411
Why would we need a new OP?

>> No.15316601

>>15316596
Wow I surely trust the hallucinations of a LLM chatbot

Discarded

>> No.15316602

Why can't we do what Oumuamua did?

>> No.15316603

>>15316590
No that's just the outer solar system, deep space is off the Kuiper Cliff.

>> No.15316608

https://youtu.be/hyYqLaeHM7g
GET IN HERE NOW

>> No.15316612

>>15316601
Absolute niggerish behavior, you know it to be true but won't accept it. Callisto is the only place for colonization other than moonlets outside of Jupiter's radiation belt. Go build a colony on Ganymede see how you like it there.

Here's wikipedia: "The radiation level at the surface of Ganymede is considerably lower than at Europa, being 50–80 mSv (5–8 rem) per day, an amount that would cause severe illness or death in human beings exposed for two months."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(moon)#Radiation_environment
Check the references if you want I know I'm right, even a fucking chatbot knows better than you.

>> No.15316614

>>15316608
Watching now

>> No.15316619

>>15316608
Ewwwww wtf are these human animations. Did you see that door open?

>> No.15316629
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>> No.15316632

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1641956590671794177
tranche 0 delayed another day to sunday

>> No.15316640

>>15316436
But Mars does exist.

>> No.15316641
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>> No.15316643

>>15316641
I think this will definetly happen at some point, the engineering must be so much easier due to the Moon's gravity.

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>>15316641
1 (one) meteorite

>> No.15316646

>>15316436
Suppose there was a store that I could buy some stuff 50 mile away. Or a store that I can't buy stuff that was 500 mile away. Would I buying still make sense if a store 50 mile away didnt exist and only the one from 500 mile away exist?

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>>15316640
How was breakfast?

>> No.15316649

>>15316608
>superheavy catched perfectly
>starship doesn't survive reentry
the exact opposite will happen

>> No.15316650

>>15316413
Wow sounds like a lovely retirement village. Do your grandchildren come to visit you from Mars?

>> No.15316651

>>15316649
I kek'd

>> No.15316653

>>15316649
I don't see why they will fail the catch, F9 nails the target area every time.

>> No.15316654

>>15316608
Good animation, except for the part where it didn't blow up in Max-Q

>> No.15316655

>>15316649
The easy part is catching starship. the hard part is my cock

>> No.15316657

>>15316653
this ain't falcon 9 knuckle head

>> No.15316658

>>15316655
How do they plan to catch starship btw? I know that booster 7 will be caught by chopsticks. Droneship maybe?

>> No.15316659

>>15316653
It's a new rocket. Things go wrong as new rockets go up. It follows that things can go wrong as new rockets go down as well. The tower could glitch out too.

>> No.15316660

>>15316644
space colonies will have to be resilient like navy warships

>> No.15316661

>>15316658
Chopsticks retart

>> No.15316662

>>15316650
Sure, but they miss out because they have to stay in the 0.3 g zone

>> No.15316663

>>15316661
Also huh? What's the time that they have to get booster 7 off the chopsticks and prep for starship? Must be a really tight schedule.

>> No.15316665

>>15316663
first one will be dropped at the sea

>> No.15316667

>>15316662
>>15316650
>>15316413
Fucking spinsects infest every thread with their tooobes, I swear to God if one is made in my life time I will throw you all out the airlock.

>> No.15316669

>>15316665
So they fish it out, but after that it's chopsticks for everything. First orbital flight test is gonna be reaalllly tough to get first time. Five bucks says it explodes in max-q

>> No.15316672

>>15316612
Planetary and solar radiation shielding is a solved problem. Because it's a neutral plasma, you have electrons to work with. A relatively weak magnetic field can create a dome of electrons, which electrostatically deflects the protons as they penetrate it. This is what plasma magnet is, effectively. But the effect has been demonstrated in the lab independently of the whole plasma magnet thing.
You've probably seen calculations that suggest that magnetic shielding would require impractically strong fields. But these use a simple vacuum assumption in which a proton is deflected in complete isolation. When you take the plasma effects into account the situation is much more practical.

>> No.15316673

>>15316667
>most sane well dweller

>> No.15316677

>>15316644
fucken lasers or some shit

>> No.15316680

>>15316672
Not gonna stop GCRs though which are kind of a big problem

>> No.15316684

>>15316673
>Throw the spincel down the well
>Then my planet can be free

>> No.15316686

>>15316659
I can see it now, the first tower catch attempt. The booster comes roaring down to stop perfectly centered between the arms, hovering there just the way bricks don't. The arms start moving in, then stall due to grit in the bearing surfaces. Eventually the fuel runs out, then the booster crashes down, then it topples over.

>> No.15316688

>>15316680
That's a side issue. We're talking about Jupiter's radiation belts. Plasma shielding means that all the Galilean moons are an option. GCRs are orders of magnitude less of a problem than the radiation belts.

>> No.15316696

>>15316688
Until there is a to scale demonstration that this is viable way to colonize Ganymede ON Ganymede, Callisto remains the only safe option for human settlement in the Jovian system. At the point that you can colonize Ganymede, just go to Europa for fucks sake.

>> No.15316701

>>15316696
Colonize all the moons

>> No.15316703

>>15316701
Except Europa. Attempt no landings there.

>> No.15316705

>>15316703
Especially Europa

>> No.15316709

>>15316182
That resume bullet point is carrying a LOT of weight right now kek

>> No.15316710

>>15316703
>>15316705
The absolute state of Titroons.

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>>15315013
wait until you hear about airplanes

>> No.15316712

>>15316569
Man I'm retarded lol
I've posted about fishing on Ganymede before but I didn't even know there was ice or water there. I thought it was more like Mercury

>> No.15316713
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15316713

The UAE made this map of Mars with their Hope probe, what are we thinkin fags? Where you landing?

>> No.15316715

>>15316712
"Suspected" water ocean just like every other "ocean world"
>Jupiter moons
>Uranus moons
>Triton
>Uranus
>Neptune
all "suspected"

>> No.15316716

>>15316712
Callisto may also have oceans, as well as Ceres. Though, everything is theoretical until it is proven beyond a doubt.

>> No.15316721

>>15316709
"Tell us about a previous project you're especially proud of."
Have you ever seen an F9 first stage land on a small barge in the middle of the night on a stormy sea?
"Well, yes."
I did that.

>> No.15316722

>>15316713
Landing on the poles for a change, just a sea of white

>> No.15316723

>>15316715
Also Pluto, but Charon's froze over apparantly.

>> No.15316725

>>15316721
This guy could probably make his own start up and actually succeed but it seems he's paid enough and sees the SX vision.

>> No.15316726

>>15316713
Valles Marineris for comfy nooks and crannies

>> No.15316728
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>>15316713
We did this a while ago
MTAG is a free-grill zone for all Martians seeking temporary parlay or just a good burger, hostilities are suspended within the MTAG so Martians can just grill for god's sake.

>> No.15316734
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>>15315390
seems kinda small to warrant an entire starship

>> No.15316736

>>15316725
Brilliance in one field does not mean brilliance in all fields, anon. Despite what lots of engineers will tell you, running a business in any direction but "into the ground" requires its own set of skills.

>> No.15316738

>>15316734
This image could be so much more enhanced with AI but I'm too lazy

>> No.15316740

>>15316734
They're ridesharing if I remember correctly, this is the only contract to have gone public so far

>> No.15316741

>>15316725
Technical skill doesn't often translate to business skill

>> No.15316744

>>15316740
ah that makes sense, thanks

>> No.15316746

>>15316736
>>15316741
Fair points.

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can we talk about how much of a power move it was for SpaceX to lease 39A and cuck SLS out of it further by building right on top of the causeway?

>> No.15316755

Is the launch music anon here?I think this one from Star Wars would be a cool addition to your list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDG5opLNQj0 (start at T-2:54)

>> No.15316762

>>15316755
The Super Mario Galaxy games have allot of good orchestral pieces that make good launch themes.

>> No.15316764

>>15316715
The ice is confirmed though.
SKATING ON GANYMEDE
FISHING ON GANYMEDE
I don't want to die before we can do things like this please make it real Elon I love you

>> No.15316783

im ootl are they planning on catching the booster on the first flight? or just gonna ditch it in the ocean?

>> No.15316786

>>15316764
Men conquer new lands to fish and to grill

>> No.15316795

>>15316722
you can just go to Earth's poles for that

>> No.15316798

>>15316795
Not the same

>> No.15316799

>>15316783
Soft landing on FAA headquarters

>> No.15316803

>>15316786
Reminds me of that time in Manifold: Space where Triton gets big terraformed oceans and people stock them with salmon and such

>> No.15316805

>>15316799
KEK

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real newspace smallsat launcher type shit

>> No.15316810

>>15316764
>SKATING ON GANYMEDE
Heinlein's juvenile novel "Red Planet" has Martian colonists skating along the canals at crazy high speeds.

>> No.15316812

>>15316783
I never heard anything about a booster recovery on the first attempt

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I wish I was Wang yaping’s doll

>> No.15316826

>>15316608
>SN24 breaks up on reentry

That would be the Chad way to go, but sadly it'll just belly-flop into the ocean and require a remote detonation in a very gay way.

>> No.15316827

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYqLaeHM7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYqLaeHM7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYqLaeHM7g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYqLaeHM7g

>> No.15316832

>>15316827
Fuck, that was so retarded

>> No.15316851

>>15316832
??? Animation was good but timeline of events was off, why is it retarded? They can't predict the future.

>> No.15316858

>>15316748
SLS needs to go back in the museum and stay there

>> No.15316863

>>15316851
There shoulkd be more variants.
v1: empty launch pad, becasue no FAA license
v2: vehicel just sits there, bad weather
v3: vehicle just sits there, raqndom glitch caused a hold
v4: countdown hold at t- 1s due to engine failure
v5: everything is on fire, the sound of all the engiens ramping up to 90% destroyed the booster
and so on

>> No.15316875

>>15316722
That's too ambitious for NASA, better send another rover to prepare the soil samples before the next rover collects them.

>> No.15316882

I hope you're all ready for two weeks of t-1 second scrubs for starship once they start trying to launch it

>> No.15316886

>>15316783
I'm pretty sure the answer is "no", they won't do it until it's done a proper hover "landing" over open ocean, and probably a few times too, just like they did with F9. And S24 will do its own attempt at a controlled landing over ocean too, if it gets that far.

>> No.15316888

>>15316882
oh god it's gonna be worse than terran

>> No.15316891

>>15316882
As long as it doesn't RUD over the entire launch site... that would set us back years, goodbye mars 2026 and 2028, it would be truly over

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>>15316827
fuck watching another animation, I'm holding out for the real thing (in two weeks)
>>15316863
v6: boomer speedboat off the shore

>> No.15316900

>>15316891
>goodbye mars 2026 and 2028
what are those dates supposed to be?

>> No.15316902

Guys is Tory gonna be ok?

>> No.15316903

>>15316900
2020, 2022

>> No.15316904

>>15316902
A stage exploding on the stand isn't the end of the world, so why wouldn't he be?

>> No.15316906

>>15316900
pretty optimistic dates usually quoted here, I understand the enthusiasm but there's miles and miles of work to be done in long term storage of cryos not to mention life support and long duration flight modifications in general.
Come to think of it, will the first Starships have those big solar panels?

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>>15316900
What indeed, newfriend.

>> No.15316908

>>15316900
Mars 2022 cargo mission and 2024 crewed mission, version 2.0 electric boogaloo

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alright stage it

>> No.15316920

>>15316907
These are the windows to be able to leave for Mars? Also I'm a different anon than the one replied to.

>> No.15316921

>>15316900
Roughly mars transfer windows
Happens every 26 months

>> No.15316924

After the OTF, what are the next milestones?
There will be the first recoveries for SH and SS, first fuel transfer test, first non-starlink satellite, first life support test, first crewed launch, HLS tests and so on.

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This pic makes me crack up

>> No.15316928

>>15316927
This is just asking to be jak'd

>> No.15316931

>>15316928
I know hahah. For me it’s the wide field of view

>> No.15316932

>>15316921
>>15316907
What's a window?

>> No.15316935

>>15316932
An opening one can exploit.

>> No.15316938

>>15316932
Go play KSP. But the TLDR is that, while you could technically always go to other planets at any given time, there are certain time periods where it’s like a million times easier due to the position of the planets’ orbits. You save months to years of travel time and thousands of gallons of fuel

>> No.15316941

>>15316932
Jesus, how new are you? Even normies who watched only The Martian know about this. (Good movie btw, even if semi unrealistic)

>> No.15316942

>>15316938
This isn’t even doing it justice. The difference between launching in a window vs launching any other time can be “fuck it, it’s impossible to get there” versus “damn this is going to take a year and a shit load of delta v but we have just enough to do it”

>> No.15316945

>>15316942
We probably wont be launching at non window times for a century or two huh.

>> No.15316951

>>15316950
>>15316950
>>15316950

>> No.15316952

STAGE IT WTF HURRY

>> No.15316953

>>15316927
>ROGGS... WOWZERS...

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>>15316932

>> No.15316984

https://www.youtube.com/live/pyqdb1Any24?feature=share
clear is a man official

>> No.15316988

>>15316984
obvious voice changer is obvious

also she already wrote on her twitter why she changed her profile pic and who that guy is, "her rocket idol" some rocket scientist dude in Japan

>> No.15316995

>>15316988
i hope you fags bully her about it so I can hear her cry again

>> No.15317020

>>15316984
>>15316988

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-JoqStMbo0

Could be someone who doesn't even speak Japanese and just uses AI to translate, TTS to output voice, etc.

>> No.15317026

>>15317020
Her content goes back to before this AI shit really took off and it's still not up to the task of fluently imitating a natural person really, there are still the weird uncanny valley moments with even the best ones.

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https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1642028439539425283

>It appears that the marine notices for Starship’s first orbital flight have been released!

>The daily windows run from April 6th to April 12th and are open from 7:55AM CDT until 12:10PM CDT.

>A reminder that this is, of course, pending the FAA’s launch license and other closures