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ASAT edition
previous >>15296633

>> No.15300200
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retirement soon

>> No.15300249


>> No.15300288 [DELETED] 

whats it's most important achievements before retirement? what great new information did we got for it? did we learn that space stations are expensive and useless?

>> No.15300455

No pedophiles edition edition
Let them seethe

>> No.15300474

we learned valuable information about how the aroma of roses grown in zero gravity differs slightly from those grown on earth. that'll be $150 billion dollars plus tip thank you

>> No.15300537

Flacon 9 is finished.

>> No.15300599

You will never be chad like Jeff Besos
You will never go to space on a gigantic penis

>> No.15300704

First satellite destroyed by enemy nation /when/?

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anons, I think I may have actual and acute cute aggression, I hate this image to an extreme degree, not because of the sign, but because of the thing holding it. I want to hurt it so damn bad, I want to grind her face into the pavement and kick all her teeth out.

>> No.15300905

Calm your autism, anon

SpaceX will one day fail like all companies.

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Skill issue

>> No.15301191

and nothing of value was lost

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>> No.15301194

Understandable. Have a nice day.

>> No.15301235
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We can build more. What's the point of any space flight without FTL?

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>> No.15301514


With retards like you sperging out he's just going to keep posting it when he sees how much it makes you seethe.

>> No.15301819

That day is a loooong ways off though.

>> No.15301822

By the time SpaceX is obsolete it will no longer matter. We will be a multi-planetary race of beings and another private spaceflight company will take the place of SpaceX

>> No.15302518

/sfg/ is a dead general
If /sfg/ dies there's no reason to come to /sci/ anymore

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Get me out of this wack ass winged prison

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>> No.15302735 [DELETED] 
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the last one was spammed up by anime trannies, so i hid it as did many others. in case you haven't noticed, everyone hates those repulsive perverts and everything they involve themselves with rapidly becomes unpopular. they were given a bunch of containment boards all to themselves, but they refuse to stay there.

>> No.15302811

Literally the only spam was a few retards spazzing out because there were some anime pictures posted, nobody else gave a fuck.

>> No.15302813 [DELETED] 
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Anime website, newfriend

>> No.15302911 [DELETED] 

why do you and your ilk feel so driven to put your children's cartoon masturbation material on display?

>> No.15302913
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Most anime is not tranime, but most modern anime fans have god awful taste. Anime never recovered from Japan's economic stagnation in the 90s, to which the anime industry responded by cutting costs and making "safe" bets by pandering to base anime fandom instead of experimenting with the genre and trying to make anime for a broader audience of well adjusted adults. This problem has gotten worse with time, to the point where today most anime is designed to sell body pillows and other creepy merch to weird lonely men (e.g. the userbase of /a/)

If present anime trends continue, we're never going to get true space kino like Royal Space Force again. Even Planetes was nearly 20 years. The Japanese animation industry may as well be dead.

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>> No.15302923 [DELETED] 

I am watching Ooyukiumi no Kaina and holy shit you are right.

The writing is so bad that I can't get myself to finish it.

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low T post

>> No.15302969

man that looks like fun

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>> No.15303119

Already happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_satellite_collision

75% of the threads in /vg/ start with a lewd anime pic, it's absurd

>> No.15303127

The other /sfg/ is alive, this is just a knock off made by some salty fag that jannies wont clean up. Herbs

>> No.15303486

>t. Seething anime fag
This is unironically the superior thread

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>> No.15303836


I say let the other thread die wallowing in its own filth.

>> No.15304130

reusable threads

>> No.15304188

We need to stop recycling these threads because some retard who was told he was special in elementary keeps making threads long after new ones are established

It’s fucking up the continuity

>> No.15304191 [DELETED] 

can we have a no pedo cartoons rule in /sfg/?

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>> No.15304205

This will be the entirety of Astra’s legacy in 10 years time once their dead and done.

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touhou is a video game and is not a cartoon, therefore everyone is ok with posting it

>> No.15304221

It was a AI generated picture of a fully grow tomboy woman you fag, not anime

>> No.15304237 [DELETED] 

why do you insist on spamming your masturbation material in /sfg/? why can't we discuss spaceflight news and events without having you try to force your masturbation material into the topic?

>> No.15304238

Lmao, it wasnt my material, someone else posted it in the previous thread
Kind of funny that you are losing your shit so badly about a simple picture

>> No.15304240

>discuss spaceflight news and events
literally nothing is happening

>> No.15304254

ie coded pedoshit

>> No.15304256

your bone structure is unmistakably male and you will never have a uterus or ovaries

>> No.15304265

>you will never have a uterus or ovaries
You don't know that for sure

>> No.15304266


>> No.15304273

Nothing to do with pedos, just shorthaired girls that act slightly differently than girls in general (but not really)

>> No.15304275

Ignore the troll, retard. The reddit faggots are always like this.

>> No.15304276

You are voluntarily giving this faggot (You)s. Stop biting the hook.

>> No.15304278 [DELETED] 

I think GitS:SAC is the best example of good post-Y2K anime, and you're missing out if you haven't seen it.
You're completely right though, the medium is essentially worthless slop nowadays. What I've noticed is there is almost no 'adult' anime at all, and I don't mean that in terms of gore or explicit language. Every example of modern work that "isn't for kids" is very obviously aimed at teens age 13-18; there's literally nothing intended for the above-20 audience. Where's my Patlabor 3? I know why, japanese adults are too busy for anime and there's a stigma against consuming it after highschool and doubly so after university; it just sucks.

you'd be hard pressed to claim that was on purpose; given the context of ASATs I want to know when the first fully intentional and overtly hostile attack on a functional orbiting satellite belonging to a foreign power will happen.

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Yeah GiTS:SAC was great, there was still some good stuff being made for a while, it just became less and less frequent as time went on, I think as people from the earlier era aged out of the industry and got replaced by younger people without the same background and skill.
Pinnacle of anime right here. I love Patlabor so much. Definitely a product of it's era, excellent late cold war media. I fear nothing of this caliber will ever be made again.

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already happened

>> No.15304297 [DELETED] 

Anime's decline is due in part to Japan's economic decline. Those gorgeous 80s and 90s shows were the artistic equivalent of gold flakes on pizza, a show of overwhelming budget surplus. The budget pressure only got worse as Japan's population declined, since skilled artists were wanted elsewhere for higher pay.

>> No.15304306

Dumb comment. You are now realizing that today, we have 20x more anime per year than 20-30 years ago. Anime didn't decline, we got flooded with anime. Low IQs being low IQs, you were unable to filter out and understand what happened. So you only saw low quality anime and are claiming "Anime's decline" nonsense.

>> No.15304307

Having 20x more of something but all of it is slop isn't an improvement, Mr. Yglesias.

>> No.15304308 [DELETED] 

40 anime a year with 10 good ones
8 anime a year with 2 good ones

Sorry but you're a retard.

>> No.15304311

The total budget allocation now is less. Between simplification, 3DCG, and outsourcing to Korea and SEA, it costs less to spam cheap garbage than to make a smaller number of better series - and since most of these series are adaptations of LNs or manga, there's less spent on writing and character design.

>> No.15304317

Yes this is certainly true. And there's a direct relationship between budget and animation quality, because the actual animation took a lot of time, particularly when they were still doing real cel animation. But... there was plenty of anime made back then on much smaller budgets, which had visibly cheaper animation but still had a lot of merit. Compelling stories or settings, characters, etc. Those things didn't necessarily require big budgets in the same way that high quality animation itself does. And I think all of those things have largely been lost now. Computers made animation much cheaper, but all they can manage to make with it is slop. They can render CGI "anime" at a constant FPS but what good is that if all they're making is fapbait slop?

Making good anime could be cheaper now than ever before, but the problem isn't production costs, the problem is the market for it. Who's going to buy it? It's the problem mentioned here: >>15304278 And so I think the skills needed to actually produce stuff like they used to have probably withered away, such that even if there was a market for something the industry no longer has the talent to execute on that. If you don't use it, you lose it.

>> No.15304344
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To add onto this, did anyone notice that over the past 10 years, eastern popular culture has gone from Japanese to Korean? On the streets I see normies discussing kpop, while the mere mention of even a mainstream anime sees you shunned. I feel like >>15304297 may be onto something, given how much the Korean economy has grown over the past decade (Samsung, Hyundai, etc)

Exhibit A: Pic related. Why don't we get Miyazaki or Kojima going to the Moon?

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how much of the market is going to be sub 8t?
according to this analysis its the only place where neutron has a theoretical advantage
but I must say I'm somewhat surprised they could compete even like this, and I guess if falcon 9 block 5 stayed frozen for years and in use then neutrons subsequent versions could get better assuming it could improve like falcon 9 1.0 -> block 5 has improved


>> No.15304372 [DELETED] 

trannys are intentionally trying to ruin /sfg/ for some reason. can anyone guess why?
my first guess is its out of animosity for elon musk & spacex, who've been dominating /sfg/.
musk is popular in this space, musk made some statements recently critical of the trannys' pedo abuses, all fits into place.

>> No.15304381

That's the simplest explanation

>> No.15304420

Purge it janny.
Too much offtopic drivel in this one.
Then we can bake new without shitting up the catalog

>> No.15304425 [DELETED] 

>there's less spent on writing and character design
Those are the two least expensive parts of any production, western or eastern, the bulk of the money is poured into the hundred+ animators required now

>> No.15304438

I already miss space booba

>> No.15304445 [DELETED] 

how about having every thread a space booba thread from now on so the spergs just stay in other threads permanently

>> No.15304460

No it isn't. Budget is actually lot more because the industry has grown a lot more.

>> No.15304475

I jus want to say if Starship goes boom from rud I might actually rope, don't think I can wait another 3-5 years for launch number #2

>> No.15304480

lol its not going to take nearly that long

>> No.15304490

Don't you have other things in your life?

>> No.15304491

Do it now faggot

>> No.15304498 [DELETED] 

If you're interested in jacking off to pedo cartoons, why are you on /sci/ instead of one of the boards dedicated to allowing dudes to jack off to pedo cartoons together?

>> No.15304502
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Instead of /pol/ tier shitflinging, use your autism for something useful

>> No.15304522

When it rudds it'll take out the entire starbase facility. No more launches for a while

>> No.15304540

CSS tier conspiracy theory

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thread refurbishment was a mistake.

>> No.15304550

Ok whatever, remember to duck and cover. The Payload Door Question remains unsolvable.

>> No.15304553

lol okay nigger

>> No.15304572
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Why did Nixon kill it off? It had potential

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ok so the new company that came from merging of oneweb and eutelsat wants to provide iris^2, basically the european version of starshield
not sure if its even possible for other providers to do so? would they allow spacex to bid if the company is not european? a slight geopolitical risk

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>> No.15304582
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9 March 1934 - 27 March 1968

>> No.15304600

would have been a way more kino timeline if picrel walked on the Moon first

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not at all.

>> No.15304610

whats wrong with eugenics?

>> No.15304611

t. non-right-stuff-haver

>> No.15304612

reading comprehension

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>> No.15304643

I would rather see botched MTF surgery pictures than another spaceplane

>> No.15304644
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>> No.15304646

Spaceplane and SSTOfags need to go into the oven

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>> No.15304660

Designed by Boing

>> No.15304664

Both of these can be highly practical on a terraformed Mars

>> No.15304676
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If you make it robotic, the leaping locomotion has some appeal in lunar and sub-lunar gravity. No reaction mass expenditure is a good thing.

>> No.15304678

The Soviets (and Chinese) for some reason didn’t want to send their first men into space again. Afaik Leonov would have been the most likely candidate to do the first step

>> No.15304683

Spaceplanes are good for crew evacuation. You don’t want your wounded to bear 4G on reentry or land thousands of km away from infrastructure.

>> No.15304691

>No reaction mass expenditure is a good thing.
Plasma Magnet for lunar locomotion

>> No.15304693
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Its not just the Reds, I doubt Armstrong would have been allowed back in space even if he'd really wanted to. John Young can fly a shuttle because who remembers the ninth man on the Moon? But you wouldn't risk the first man there .

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pic will save the spaceplane genre

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manned Venus surface landing this decade. I can feel the energy in mah bones

>> No.15304698

Capsuleshits need to get Komarov'd

>> No.15304699
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What happens if you activate a PM on the lunar surface when the solar wind is blowing tangent to it? Do you get thrust?

>> No.15304700

more like manned flyby for Starship long duration demo (2029)

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>parachute past the clouds
>the floor is lava

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would be kino to watch since Nixon took this away from us all those years ago

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>> No.15304719

The regolith would fuck with you. You need to have a good radius of free space for your electron swirl.
You could however use one like an umbrella to keep off solar radiation.

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including the surprise experimental surface landing feature demo

>> No.15304727

Earth - Mars - Venus will be the new triangle trade.

>> No.15304730

ironically spaceplanes account for most of in-flight casualties in the history of spaceflight

>> No.15304733
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>> No.15304736

propulsive landing with capsules is perfectly possible, NASA are just too chickenshit to allow it

>> No.15304739
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not for long wait until a Starship has a rud with like 100 people onboard

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>> No.15304751

Will we see more Falcon 9 failures as they keep reusing old boosters?

>> No.15304761

Yeah but likely only during landing. Although SX seems to have a pretty healthy flow of customers who need expendable F9 and FH launches so they just use older boosters for those. Kind of gets rid of the problem

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Propulsive landing doesn’t soften the reentry.
And by spaceplane I also include horizontal landing lifting bodies that can have soft reentries.

Even something like a scaled up IXV works.

For all other uses I agree you don’t want spaceplane.

>> No.15304769

starship doesn't have a hard reentry. it glides in just like the shuttle

>> No.15304804

It literally flips 90 degree

>> No.15304807

Not during reentry.

>> No.15304810

that's a not a high g maneuver retard

>> No.15304820


>> No.15304828

Just propulsive land the whole way down

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>> No.15304835

sure. But you need to have engines that can throttle extremely low. also, if you go fast enough in the atmosphere, the air starts to slow you down quite a bit. Much more prop efficient to have one big blast at the end to slow down.

>> No.15304839

gravity losses are the primary reason you don't do this. lurk more

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>> No.15304845

no retard, gravity losses are the reason you don't just use your engines to hover and go nowhere, if you're actually achieving acceleration it doesn't matter.

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>> No.15304851

Fuck, I hope they die faster than that. Kemp is a little shit.

According to their last financial report, they should be out of money this year anyways.

>> No.15304853

Baiting or brainlet. Stop posting either way.

>> No.15304855

FAGGOT. decelerate from orbit in ksp in atmosphereless planet all the way down. You will see it works just as well as one big burst at the bottom. None of you have done this in ksp.

>> No.15304863

LMAO nigger. this is intuitively incorrect to anyone with IQ more than 100.
gravity steals 9m/s^2 of acceleration at all times. thus the shorter the time for equivalent impulse, the less delta-v you lose to gravity. you're literally retarded

>> No.15304872

It's intuitively correct to you because you're a retard. Do it in ksp faggot and prove me wrong. that ms^-2 is the same whether you fire your engines or not. The difference is that in one case all that speed builds up and you have to deal with it at the end, and in the other case you keep your speed low. You have never played ksp and are a newfag pseud.

>> No.15304873
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>> No.15304874

road closures today

>> No.15304878

Another way to test this being the KSP bing bing wahoo retard you are instead of learning about physics:
Launch the same rocket from the moon twice. Straight up perpendicular to the ground.
With one you go full thrust until you run out and the other you burn way longer at minimum thrust.
See which one gets a higher apoapsis.

>> No.15304881
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>he literally, genuinely doesn't understand gravity loss

>> No.15304885

Kek, what rocket is this?

>> No.15304887

Proton. Drunk Ivan hammered in the IMU upside down.

>> No.15304891

KYS. don't talk to me until you actually tried it.

>> No.15304892

>Gravity losses depend on the time over which thrust is applied as well the direction the thrust is applied in. Gravity losses as a proportion of delta-v are minimised if maximum thrust is applied for a short time, or if thrust is applied in a direction perpendicular to the local gravitational field

>> No.15304896

I don't have it installed on my computer. Try this >>15304878 and report back you absolute retard.
By the way go back to r*ddit

>> No.15304899

acceleration is obviously different retard, I was talking about atmospereless deceleration, stop moving goal posts.

>> No.15304902

>moving goal posts
LMAO. the absolute state of this general.
>gravity losses are the reason you don't just use your engines to hover and go nowhere, if you're actually achieving acceleration it doesn't matter.
>decelerate from orbit in ksp in atmosphereless planet all the way down. You will see it works just as well as one big burst at the bottom

>> No.15304903

Hey what accounts should I follow on Twatter to get real time updates on Starship, I know there are a few accounts that are always taking images/video off property but cant remember which.

>> No.15304911

You would have seen the filename if you weren't a phonefag.

>> No.15304912

The ONLY case in which your retarded statements could be construed into something sensible is if you cancel out all your HORIZONTAL velocity separately.
Any firing of the rocket to cancel out vertical speed will be affected by gravity loss and thus be significantly more efficient if the burn is short and higher thrust.

>> No.15304914

Suicide booth?

>> No.15304917

It's the same thing.

>> No.15304920 [DELETED] 

not when acceleration due to gravity only acts in one direction. whatever, I'll come back in a while with proof.

>> No.15304926

labpadre? definitely not nsf.

>> No.15304927

starship gazer

>> No.15304928

you could start with
I don't follow starbase closely day to day, but just start with one account, then see what they've liked/retweeted and follow the accounts that post their own stuff and then do the same through those accounts
you can quickly start seeing if some account is relevant from the fact that relevant accounts are usually followed by other relevant accounts

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looking at the you might like and suggested seem to be people that are actively looking at starbase (Except astra lmao)

>> No.15304933

Some people work and can't spend the whole day in front of mom's computer, neet.

>> No.15304934

its proton-m
shouldn't you be working instead of shitposting?

>> No.15304937

>gravity losses don't exist during landing
>yet the rocket is pointed the same direction
still can't get over this take

>> No.15304938

add it to the list

>> No.15304944

I don't trust a word that comes out their mouth. Pls explain like i'm a dummy

>> No.15304949

engine on long time bad
engine on short time good

>> No.15304954

Even on Tylo?
Fuck Tylo

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> uppity wagie

>> No.15304968

Thanks everyone for the recommendations, greatly appreciate it.

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Scaffolding is gone!

>> No.15304975

BO finally published their report

>> No.15304976

This has been out for a bit now bro this is not news.

>> No.15304984

Oort belt anon hello

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>> No.15304994

>SSTO truther

>> No.15304999

City of Brownsville economy booster to orbit

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> drops 4 engines
the pic is mislabelled

>> No.15305001

holy FUCK, im tired of being chained to this fucking earth. why havent we sent atleast a single (1) nuke on a rocket along with a VASIMIR meme power-hungry engine or any experimental engine at all, we will never go to mars at this pace especially with chem engines because of greed and complacency, i fucking hate the laws of physics and i fucking hate all of you too

>> No.15305004

Calm down, chemical engines are good enough go get us to Mars which is as far as we need to go for a long time. There’s no point in going to Jupiter and beyond at this stage. By the time we are ready to go we will likely have the tech to do it faster

>> No.15305016

>road closures canceled for today and tomorrow
they're just taunting us at this point

>> No.15305034

Blame the treaty on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons.

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>> No.15305055

Imagine being anon who voted for this.

>> No.15305057

This is why commercial space travel will forever be greater than governmental space travel.

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> vatnik demoralization scheme to run down America
Send them to Gitmo

>> No.15305063

Post hand and nose. Russia seethe belongs on /pol/ also>>15305061

>> No.15305064

Mars sample return is so idiotic when human missions to mars are supposed to be happening about the same time, or not many years later

>> No.15305067

where does NASA say this? most they've talked about is maybe a mars flyby. As far as I know only spacex has any plans to visit mars.

>> No.15305069

Are any of their granddaughters hot?
I want a son who still a sliver of right stuff

>> No.15305079

>following starnig

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What’s that? NASA and the stupid government are mismanaging its fundings? Wow this is the first I’m hearing of this

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oopsy daisy!

>> No.15305093

Artemis 3 is barely happening in 2026

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They're going to shift it to 2029 for the 60th anniversary of Apollo 11. And they STILL won't make it lmao

>> No.15305118

There's a pretty sizable market that exists at 1T to 8T, so RL will definitely have a market to operate in. But that market will last only as far as Starship not being operational. Once SpaceX has the ability to co-manifest payloads at scale, it becomes increasingly difficult for them to keep up. SpaceX has to figure out their payload deployment issue and the structural issues with their ship design (as per latest CSI Starbase video); but once they're over that hurdle and can say get 50T to LEO at half the cost of a Falcon 9. RTLS costs for rideshare will be half of anything RL can offer at the cheapest without basically running negative on flights, and SpaceX would still turn a profit per flight from just a handful of companies. But at 50T, if each payload say was 200kg tops, that's 226 payloads per flight. Assuming no RUD to orbit and assuming say 500k cost for each payload to orbit, that's $113.398M in revenue per flight. If Starship costs say $25M to launch, that's $88.398M in profit or 300% margin per flight.

The limiting factor then won't be Starships or fuel or launch cost or logistics of flight, but of orbital space and deorbiting of expired satellites. RocketLab's Neutron rocket's market existence is as long lived as it takes for Starship to get up to operational cadence. Once that happens, its game over for most small/medium lift providers that are trying to compete internationally. SpaceX will devour it all.

>> No.15305129

the logistics of taking in 226 payloads isn't going to be a problem?

>> No.15305130

How did the Apollo 11 crew feel about their mission? Do you think they ever felt fear, or were calm because they had been trained inside out?

>> No.15305131

I'd be very excited

>> No.15305134

It is. They're all are notoriously painful to deal with.
226 potentially distinct customers and everybody needs charging and needs to push that one software update real quick and oops our hydrazine's leaking.
taking just one customer is already so much harder than being your own like starlink.

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its over for the bongs

>> No.15305144

You dont even need to co-manifest to get Starship to be superior than Neutron.

If Starship flies 100 times a year, cost $50M (more expensive than Neutron), they can just go Starship purely for availably/reliability standpoint. Thats not to mention that margins available. If someone only has 5ton, who will they choose?

Get an entire Starship for $50 that can fly any time?
Or get a Neutron for $45 that can fly once a month (at best)

>> No.15305145

>an entry-level oxidiser
retarded twitterfag is retarded. why did you feel the need to post this?
he's obviously not talking about lox nor nitrogen tetroxide.
likely hydrogen peroxide which is not a part of 'a decent rocket industry'

>> No.15305150

its nitrous oxide, I guess he is implying if there is no easy way to start experimenting with small or hobby rockets, then the probability of a serious industry developing is smaller

>> No.15305153

It's just a thought experiment. Reality is that its not going to get to 226 payloads or more per flight. But ultimately, SpaceX like its counter part Tesla, in its respective market has much more operational and cost leverage in the market compared to others trying to compete with it. When SpaceX successfully landed their Falcon 9 for the first time in 2015, should have been the wake up call to make investments to move any existing designs up into a reuse context to try and get the rockets out the door into market and use the upmass cost as R&D to bridge the gap between themselves and SpaceX. We are 7 years into that landing date and the first orbital class equivalent competitor to Falcon 9 Block 4 is expected to have its maiden flight in 2024-2025.

If it takes a decade to realize that competition is about to drive a stake through your heart, you're not long for the world. SpaceX stopped declaring Falcon design blocks, but its probably realistic to assume that Falcon 9 is closer to Block 6 or Block 7 FT now rather than Block5 (2015-2016). They still make the occasional design improvement on the vehicle as they collect more data from each reuse flight that goes into new boosters that get made.

While I wish RocketLab well, I am of opinion that Peter Beck fucked up and waited too lon to transition from Electron to Neutron. The market for that vehicle is going to be very short lived. Probably 3-5 years max, and then they'll start seeing a sharp decline. I said in the previous thread that Starship I think will force everyone to adapt a flat bus design for all payloads moving forward (as much as possible) and optimize for volume rather than mass even if the vehicle's existence allows for big chonky payloads to orbit. As orbits get filled up, collision risk and high velocity debris risks increase exponentially. Physics, necessity, and derisking strategies will force this uniformity.

>> No.15305154

I think expecting 100 flights a year before 2030 is unrealistic. But seeing 50 flights a year by 2030 is more probable. But after 2030, it would be reasonable to start seeing exponential growth of Starship launches. 100 in 2031, 150 in 2032, 200 in 2033, 250 in 2033, 300 in 2034, 400 in 2035 and so on out to 1000 launches per year. SpaceX has to reach 1-2k launches a year if they want their Mars ambitions to become viable.

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> banning hippy crack will save the tories
lmao even

>> No.15305158

More scaffolding is being removed

>> No.15305160

eh. even copenhagen suborbitals runs lox and ethanol. these meme fuels are increasingly becoming irrelevant.
hybrid motors have always been a meme and satellite propulsion is going all electric.

>> No.15305163

You can just sense the unbridled seething and inferiority complex in this paragraph, source?

>> No.15305164

while we're talking about memes let's not forget nuclear-thermal

>> No.15305166

The more Starship flies, the cheaper it will be, thus

Starlink alone will fly atleast few dozens a year. If they send in 100 Starlinks per Starship and they do 50 launches of them a year, thats 5000 a year. Keep that rate for 6 years and you get 30000 Starlinks, thats their full constellation. Then each sats will have ~6-7 year lifetime, thus at the end of the 6-7 years, they can just relaunch new batches and continue to update/maintain their system pretty well.

50 launches a year is just them alone. Do you think they can't get 50 other launches a year?

>> No.15305173

>Do you think they can't get 50 other launches a year?
That's the wrong question to ask. Its not what SpaceX is capable of, the limiting factor will always be the US state and federal bureaucracy being able to keep up with SpaceX's cadence. Falcon 9 already pushed FAA to the limit where its pace is causing FAA to almost buckle under the weight of it, to the degree that they're requesting more funding to Congress to expand operational footprint to keep up. Now, along comes Starship and 10x that.

SpaceX here is the olympic athlete who's trained its entire life to win the gold medal. The FAA, bless their heart, in this metaphor is the fat guy in the office chair who walks 2 miles and is on his knees, winded.

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Its fine if you tap reactor power to electrically accelerate your exhaust or use a LOX-Augmented Nuclear Thermal Rocket

>> No.15305179

So you're saying SpaceX cant fly more than 50 a year because of US government? You do know that they launched 61 times last year right? And they're aiming 100 this year?

>> No.15305184

bros I did it
first interview with a spaaaacceeeeeeeeee company

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is she getting old, pushed out or just sick of the politics?

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congrats anon

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the dude that is going to replace kathryn lueders

>> No.15305192

Politics. She was pulled from her HLS job promotion by Biden admin and pushed her out of it entirely, having no role, for selecting Starship instead of National Team nonsense.

Biden wants to cripple SpaceX and their way of doing it is by removing any of the SpaceX supporters

>> No.15305193

Brother, can you not be daft for one fucking second and think it through what you're writing? The FAA is barely keeping up with SpaceX's Falcon 9 volume. Barely. Starship is expecting to 10x that. The limiting factor is bureaucracy always. SpaceX will continue to fly Falcon 9 and Starship flights until they are ready to to retire the F9 and go purely Starship. Until the bureaucracy catches up, the answer is yes: they'll be capped to 50. The FAA has no rule book yet on how to handle a half a kiloton controlled detonation that's expected to launch 100-1000x a year that's in a class ABOVE the current mass/volume of NASA's SLS. SpaceX's current launch allowance for Boca Chica is 10 per year. While Roberts Road has no actual limit, any administration will quickly step in and put a cap on that, the moment the routine launch cadence begins to potentially disrupt flight corridors. Starship is Saturn V but with Falcon 9 cadence. That's unheard of.

The situation might have been different if Blue Origin was already flying New Glenn by now, but the fact that it hasn't even made it to the friggin' static fire test stand, means that Starship is going to face a lot of bureaucratic challenges and will have to pave a lot of new roads before it can take advantage of them properly.

>> No.15305197

good man for the job

>> No.15305199

biden needs to go

>> No.15305200

Kathy was the fall guy. The guy who made the call on HLS selection was an acting admin. He went rogue before Nelson got appointed, made the call on selecting HLS Starship for the once in lifetime opportunity, and immediately resigned, which locked in the decision and forced the Biden admin to carry the weight of it; as rescinding the decision would be viewed as political. It was a masterful execution of capitalizing on 1 in a 100 years moment of brilliance.

>> No.15305203

sounds like a cool movie to make

>> No.15305205

He didn't go rogue, he went unbiased. He chose Starship because he thought it had the best chance of putting Americans in a leading position. Biden admins didnt like it one bit. He quit right after the decision so the new Biden admin can't backtrack it and embarass/expose themselves. So instead they play the politics game by removing anyone that went along with him, Kathy, who got a promotion for her success in commercial space and told her to become the lead for Starship. Biden did not like this one bit. She was immediately stripped of her duties and told to fuck off. Now we're seeing her being pushed out of the organization entirely.

>> No.15305214

>former SpaceX
Phew, we're safe

>> No.15305217

Yeah, I know. He made the decision based on merit rather than political contribution aka going rogue; because the government almost always operates relative to political contribution.

>> No.15305219

isn't this whole position basically powerless? and was created just to sideline lueders (as firing/forcing retirement directly would have been too hard to explain)

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Make no mistake, they know what they're doing here. Absolutely dirty internal politics scheming

Exhibit A. Everything Artemis will now be under ESDMD for good

>> No.15305226

Might as well rename SOMD to LEO Directorate

>> No.15305234

New horizons needs to be flown into the sun. fuck these scientists bleeding govenment dry

>> No.15305236

being unbiased = going rogue, in the current administration.

>> No.15305237

>New horizons needs to be flown into the sun
It should be flown out to the next sun over from ours.

>> No.15305239

Love ken

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NTP for manned Mars missions is a meme but NTP is the best near term propulsion method for anything that needs to make multiple orbit changes, this is why the USSF is interested in it

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Mir looked better

>> No.15305244

just dont use my tax dollars to do it

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Another piece of the missing puzzle?

Why does this tweet matter? Its because of her study into the vibrations, EuropaClipper got pushed from SLS onto Falcon Heavy. They hate her cause she found too many faults in the old system

>> No.15305260

Why are we sending humans to mars before we've started mining asteroids when we desparately need the raw minerals

>> No.15305265

don't know, found it here. best guess is Lori Garver's book, but probably not

>> No.15305277

can this link be added to the next OP? It's really useful

>> No.15305278

why does nsf have a homeless guy doing their videos?

>> No.15305280

I do know that Garver talks about how von braun and his friends effectively manufactured the big public scare over sputnik. In reality very few people understood or cared, It was von Braun who convinced LBJ to use it against Eisenhower as a political assault and thereby increase funding to the nascent space program.

>> No.15305286

I stopped reading after it became a slog because of Garver's obnoxious bitterness.

>> No.15305287

NSF is a jobs program

>> No.15305291

>Cold War anxiety was not a thing the public was not irrational

okay sure

>> No.15305292

Ever heard of giving back to the community? Brownsville is not exactly the wealthiest place in USA. Maybe think before posting

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McCarthy did nothing wrong

>> No.15305299

There's no actual funding/organizational plan for a human landing on Mars around 2029.
For political reasons (China, ESA partnership), MSR can't be delayed.

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What did they Neman by this?

>> No.15305304

caught spies just get traded for American Spies USSR caught

>> No.15305305

its cheap

>> No.15305306

eh, looking at the old newspaper articles I think there was some spin going on. I'm convinced Braun could've been responsible though. The man was a genius, both as an engineer and a charismatic socialite. He's actually responsible for the structure at NASA where senators buy jobs in their state and give NASA funding in return: he created it to collect the huge amounts of money saturn V required.
That's not even mentioning his relationship with JFK, the stuff he got up to in germany, and what his loyalists did after he left NASA.
There's a reason everything started to fall apart after he left.

>> No.15305312

>NASA is riding on the coattails of Von Braun to this day


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Not the Rosenbergs - they fried

>> No.15305328

>need to find the dozen or so most qualified men out of a pool of millions who would kill to be in their position
>but selecting them based on an extremely rigorous process makes you an evil nazi eugenicist

>> No.15305335

now that they relaxed the criteria they can send women and blacks

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>There's a reason everything started to fall apart after he left
It fell apart before he left. Saturn V not receiving a second production run, itself a death knell for any expanded program that built upon Apollo, was a done deal by 1968. Political discussions/budgeting in 1969 only reinforced that: Congress/the President/the Office of Management and Budget were debating whether any manned space operations were in the national interest, not space infrastructures or missions to Mars.
NASA historian T.A. Heppenheimer sums up what happened as:
>During the year that followed the landing of Apollo 11 in the Sea of Tranquillity, NASA received a cold bath in the Sea of Reality


>> No.15305341

maybe I'm autistic, but the use of the word 'heroic' makes me think this was written by somebody who actually liked eugenics.

>> No.15305343

They see it as a negative, look at how its placed between "unapologetic" and "eugenic"

>> No.15305351

1) Restriction of reproductive freedom is generally perceived as negative;
2) Eugenics have been historically used by white supremacists against the members of other races, and are thus associated with racism.

>> No.15305352

it's already pinned in the discord

>> No.15305355

prove to me eugenics are bad (protip: you can't)
People's eyesight is getting worse,more will have to wear glasses. Human gait is getting worse, more and more people with flat feet, and the Caesarean section will cause women's hips to become narrower so more Caesarean sections will be needed. Those are a few examples

>> No.15305357

Literally the only search result shows that it was written by a right-winger. A few paragraphs up and he's kvetching about cancel culture.

>> No.15305368

never said I didn't like eugenics. Learning about it was the main thing that converted me away from more mainstream beliefs. also, >>15305357 proves I was right.

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>juxtaposed with the Faustian counterpart of infinite space.

Based and Faustian spirit pilled

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>> No.15305391

restricting the procreation of retards is based
people that can't take care of themselves shouldn't have children, that seems pretty obvious to me
but eugenics doesnt necessarily have to be about restriction of reproduction, voluntary abortion of very sick or retarded fetuses should be encouraged

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>> No.15305397

Someone post the quote if they have it, very definition of the Faustian spirit imbued within Von Braun right there

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from the same author:

>> No.15305404

>voluntary abortion of very sick or retarded fetuses should be encouraged
that's actually not eugenics as this wouldn't affect the genome of the population.

>> No.15305405

>restricting the procreation of retards is based
How often do retards reproduce though? Seems like bullshit

>> No.15305408

>the Caesarean section will cause women's hips to become narrower so more Caesarean sections will be needed.
That's not even how the pathophysiology that leads to Caesarean sections works. Hip size is not the primary reason why C-sections are performed.

And outside of "I don't like these people therefore they shouldn't exist", implementing 'eugenics' in those cases wouldn't fix anything. No C-sections so some marginal fraction of women/infants die in childbirth so some fraction of those for whom the cause was hereditary don't successfully procreate, so some trait frequency in the population slightly shifts. There's no equilibrium, so the eliminated population wouldn't be replaced by a surge in 'healthy' births, so all you've done is shrink your probably below-replacement rate population for no real gain.

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Very often

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Those makeshift solar panels are soulful for sure. It looks rusted

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You are not smarter than WD Hamilton
>What is the problem Hamilton is worried about? In short: natural selection is weakened because medical science saves lives of people with hereditary diseases who otherwise would die, and helps reproduce those that otherwise could not, and subsequently transmit the medical problem –if it has a genetic basis– to the next generation
>Medical treatments: regenerative medicine, organ transplantation, blood transfusion, pharmaceutical drugs including essential medicines (52), –surprisingly– including gene therapy, fetal therapy (137), antibiotics (46), vaccination, medical devices (e.g. hearing aid (37), and non-medical inventions such as clothing, cooking, soap, houses with air co and central heating, etc. all affect survival and indirectly reproduction

>> No.15305421

low iq individuals reproduce more than high iq individuals. This is well recorded. It makes sense: modern life doesn't exactly select for intelligent people. By definition this is dysgenic and should be addressed/stopped. No none cares though, because addressing such subjects is taboo.
A legend. more people should know about Hamilton's Rule.

>> No.15305431

>so some trait frequency in the population slightly shifts.
you mean whichever traits contribute to a C-section to be necessary? Also doesn't really matter if narrow hips cause more c-sections( they do). By doing c-sections the passing of those "bad" genes is effectively allowed to continue and the overall results is an increase in c-section frequency.

>> No.15305436

What do you think is at the bottom of those methane lakes on Titan? Post MidJourney prompts if you have it

>> No.15305445

Evolution does not have a direction. Natural selection is not inherently good or desirable. Not to mention the question of how much selection was actually happening before modern technology/social practice that there was such a large remaining population that eugenicists wanted to weed out.

>> No.15305458

Water-based rocks and nitrogen-rich organic tholin sediments

>> No.15305462

Makes sense. I will say that you should never underestimate the intense hatred that leftist academics have of past heroism. They would absolute make the exact same comparison and then invert the intended message in an effort to criticize past astronauts. Of course, no matter what the author intends, it's an insane comparison with little basis in reality. Meritocracy and eugenics are distinct concepts and people who use them interchangeably are almost always being specious or dishonest.

>> No.15305485

>low iq individuals reproduce more than high iq individuals. This is well recorded. It makes sense: modern life doesn't exactly select for intelligent people.
This is the kind of hot take you get when your entire knowledge of a subject comes from watching Idiocracy.

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>> No.15305494

if they copy it three times, it will work three times as well

>> No.15305521

Post long black rockets

>> No.15305523

That's a compliment to Idiocracy, not an argument

>> No.15305528

>Numerous studies have confirmed that in the United States and parts of Europe there exists a consistent negative relationship between IQ and fertility. Simply stated, it has been found that those with lower levels of IQ tend to have more children than those with higher levels of IQ.


>> No.15305529
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Frog version

>> No.15305531

And that is why the human race will never be a type three civilization

>> No.15305534

What, you don't even need studies to know that. It's pretty obvious if you go outside that dumb people tend to have more children.

>> No.15305536

B7 will move back to the OLM this week

>> No.15305542

Stupid, natural reproduction will eventually be obsolete.

>> No.15305548

I would think a mars colony would significantly select against low iq (easier to kill yourself doing dumb shit) but perhaps some kind of eugenic programme as well as a necessary thing at the start of the colony at least
I guess in the semi-far future the civilization on mars would degenerate at some point

>> No.15305551

How about Israel?

>> No.15305556

In term of IQ it's Non-Orthodox Ashkenazim > Eastern and Sephardim Jews > Ultra-Orthodox (mostly of Ashkenazim origins)

in term of Fertility rate it's Ultra Orthodox >>>>> Eastern and Sephardim > Non-Orthodox Ashkenazim

>> No.15305574


Normies going wild over this

>most massive exposure to current nasa spaceflight for many is this

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>> No.15305576

Show them the poop scissors and funding will explode

>> No.15305578

No. The only people who believe that argument are people who also are perfectly fine ranking individuals using a highly politicized metric, and then are also fine making value judgements about people based off of those flawed assumptions. The governing factors for birthrate are all in economics, not intelligence.

>> No.15305582
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>I still think it's hilarious that they can't even line up these circles in the MS Paint drawing of their renders

>> No.15305585

pretty cool
oh, they're just reposting it because it looks like a vagina

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>> No.15305589

i want to fuck the alien rock

>> No.15305600

Does that mean that vaginas are shaped that way because it's optimal for semen retention? Seems odd that it transfers to 0g

>> No.15305601

Anyone know if asteroid mining is being prepped for by any companies? Or lunar/martian mining companies.

>> No.15305604

yeah, theyre bankrupt

>> No.15305607

Sex in 0G would probably feel really fucking weird… or even in low G conditions

>> No.15305614

RIP, SpaceX better get on that shit

>> No.15305616

I don't even know how sex in 1G feels like.

>> No.15305618

wouldn't it be simpler to design a mini O'niel cylinder for coffee?

>> No.15305622

Maybe dont admit that when glowies are monitoring this website anon…

>> No.15305630

Imagine something more lewd going down that cup and feeding it to your robotic cat girl waifu in space

>> No.15305631

I like the way you think, however you're probably wrong about this

>> No.15305633

why not?

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>> No.15305640

>that one dude who loses his mind over Elon and Starship whenever space shit is brought up on /k/
Very sad and a most peculiar form of mental illness.

>> No.15305642

Stop shitting up other boards

>> No.15305652

Why? I could see the mechanics of it being fairly simple so long as you've got bars situated in the right places to press against and/or hold onto. As well as a surface for the woman to press her back against to aid in friction holding the whole enterprise in place.

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>> No.15305672

>Scoop – Virgin Orbit $VORB last minute canceled an all-hands meeting this afternoon and extended its unpaid pause of operations.

>CEO Dan Hart said in an email seen by CNBC that investor talks are "very dynamic" and "ongoing

>CNBC sources say talks between Virgin Orbit and potential investor Matthew Brown collapsed on Saturday, and discussions with a different potential buyer broke down on Sunday night. $VORB


>> No.15305684
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Orbital assembly is rebranding

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Why do you sci fags always complain about these guys? Is it because they remind you too much of your selves? If you don't like them don't watch there videos. I only visit there forums and hardly ever watch any of their videos. the only video from them that I watch are the non commentary ones.

>> No.15305705

Lmao they are so fucked. Everything Branson needs to burn

>> No.15305711
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>sci but not /sci/

>> No.15305715

ASDC ass dick

>> No.15305720

Goodnight Irene :)

>> No.15305726
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>> No.15305729
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>> No.15305735
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>> No.15305743

>new fag

I've been coming to 4chan for more than 12 years I'm allowed to dis whoever I please, and how ever I please.

>> No.15305747

The lunar module is beyond kino

>> No.15305796
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So how does the transition between air and ocean work on jupiter? Obviously at some point theres gotta be liquid then solid but is it a hard line like the earth or is it different? This extends to the ice giants as well, and how deep could we send a probe designed for their atmospheres? Also what happened to the shoemaker-levy comet that went in to Jupiter? Did it burn up/melt in the atmosphere on entry or did it hit that ocean?

>> No.15305806

>sex with women

>> No.15305812

Hold her by the tail so she doesn't float away

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>> No.15305838
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I'm glad they changed the windows before the final design - this one looks too angry

>> No.15305863

I SWEAR to god if our AI overlords eventually conclude that the boring Starship monocore TSTO methane stick is the optimal way to reach space from earth I will kms

>> No.15305874

can u pls convert to imperial?

>> No.15305876
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An interesting history of OHB, one of the leader in the german space industry and Rocket Factory Augsburg's parent company

>> No.15305879

Can they at least put windows on it?

>> No.15305882
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tim ellis being very quiet...

>> No.15305883


>"The spacecraft, along with the rocket stage to which it was attached, likely made impact with the surface of the Moon after its orbit decayed, on 4 March 2022.[8] This made Luxembourg the eighth country to reach the surface of the Moon."

>> No.15305893
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Firefly Reaver engine

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>> No.15305921

its probably unrelated to starship, but
>GO Quest — SpaceX’s west coast recovery / telemetry vessel — just got underway
>If she’s headed out, then a previous user estimated ~2 weeks to make the transit to Honolulu, replenish, and be on station off Kauai

>> No.15305933


Could it be?

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>> No.15305952

there's already two ships on the west coast

>> No.15305960

Nazi gold

>> No.15305964

maybe he thinks an alphabet woman will try to seduce you???

>> No.15305965

you're all my friends

>> No.15305972

Wheres the BLM armband?

>> No.15305976
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You guys are the only ones I get to talk roggets with

>> No.15305982

I'm going to hold a /sfg/ invited party when starship has its launch day
No /k/-brownies allowed

>> No.15305983

trappist b has no atmosphere

>> No.15305985

rip aliens on trappist b

>> No.15305986
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I'm not important enough for honeypotting

>> No.15305987

Exoplanets are boring ngl

>> No.15305989

why is earth so FUCKING perfect for life like really

>> No.15305990
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space fren

>> No.15305993
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>After last week's successful lunar orbital insertion maneuver, this image of the Moon was captured by our lander-mounted camera during HAKUTO-R Mission 1.

>> No.15305994

> talks between Virgin Orbit and potential investor Matthew Brown collapsed on Saturday
Thought talks would collapse on Thursday. Who would be dumb enough to give them actual cash in exchange for stock? Even if someone just wanted some of the personnel/specific intellectual property, they could just acquire it for firesale prices as VO winds up operations.

>> No.15305995

just wait until we discover a planet with no axial tilt and 3 hour period with a thicker atmosphere and lower gravity

>> No.15305996

that's why we need to protect earth instead of exploring space, lets get felon in the jail

>> No.15305999

>innermost planet
Well obviously

>> No.15306000

Just put the company down, along with Virgin Galactic. Theyre all so dog shit and clearly wont survive a post-Starship world.

>> No.15306002

That's why I still have some hope for the other ones.

>> No.15306005
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Can you go bait retards on /pol/ please? Im not giving you my (You)

>> No.15306009

I'm not expecting them to be worth a shit as far as habitability goes. But I've never understood this "all Trappist planets are airless rocks" meme. I expect some interesting features.

>> No.15306010
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Called it months ago and you mopes denied it
> Noooo!! Here's a paper showing M dwarf stellar winds blow out their poles!!
Red dwarfs are garbage, deal with it

>> No.15306013

Trappist-b orbits virtually within the atmosphere of the star. Of course it has no atmosphere. Doesn't imply anything about the other six.

>> No.15306019
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They're DEAD you NIGGER

>> No.15306022

>virtually within the atmosphere of the star.
bey you also think Parker solar probe touched the sun

>> No.15306023

500K isn't too bad

>> No.15306024
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And why don't we have two?

>> No.15306026

I guess if they can measure the temperature of the innermost plant they'll be able to measure the temperature of the rest of them (and therefore determine if they have an atmosphere)

>> No.15306028

Venus has an atmosphere and it's in the habitable zone. By exoplanet standards that's pretty good.

>> No.15306031

>retarded post
>accompanied by retarded anime reaction image
sasuga f/a/ggot

>> No.15306032

>the team hopes to eventually capture a full phase curve showing the change in brightness over the entire orbit.
>This will allow them to see how the temperature changes from the day to the nightside and confirm if the planet has an atmosphere or not.
They haven't confirmed shit. All they've done is measure the temp of the day side, and compare it to their (((model))). Until they measure the night side they don't have anything real to compare it to.

>> No.15306033
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That just shows what a shitty metric 'the habitable zone' is.

>> No.15306036

>trappist b has no atmosphere
yes it's very optimistic but you gotta start somehow

>> No.15306048

atmosphere is too thick though causing high temperatures

>> No.15306050
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Just build a floating city in the clouds
At 50km, it's one atmosphere, and a mere 50°C, which is unbearably hot but just barely survivable

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t. low grade imbecile

>> No.15306059

>Lava toobers
>Martian lava toobers
Explain yourself

>> No.15306064

it's not shitty you retard, it's a convenient way to rule out planets that are too close or too far from their star right away

>> No.15306067

at least i can do simple menial work on venus, in a cloud balloon, with a view of the sun
you on the other hand
will be mining in the tunnels of mars
never seeing the sky

>> No.15306069
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Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am a big guy, I contain multitudes.

>> No.15306073

Oh yeah well in the Martian mines I can bring up a picture of the Sun on my heads up display whenever I want (which is never)
To hell with the Sun.

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>a mere 50°C
okay m8

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>you on the other hand will be mining in the tunnels of mars
lol no, I'll be at the beach

>> No.15306091

lmao frauds

also frauds
What actually was Matthew Brown's deal? Not only was he a retard for considering it, but Berger is going on about how he's a 9/11 truther and more things "that probably aren't repeating right now".

>> No.15306096

It's a dry heat
No seriously there's zero water anywhere on Venus

>> No.15306100

Are these AI generated posts? Toobers werent even mentioned in the fucking image

>> No.15306103

Start smashing comets into it then, some are bound to have water.

>> No.15306131
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Why are we getting so many baiting retards from /pol/ lately? Ruining discussions…

>> No.15306138

Also, this reply is from a copy pasta from like 3 days ago. Wtf is going on here

>> No.15306139

How long have you been following this general? It has always been like this.

>> No.15306141

>there's zero water anywhere on Venus
that's because it all got converted to H2SO4

>> No.15306144

Not this many, not to mention this OP was made by a seething faggot who didnt have anyone bite his bait in the last general.

>> No.15306160
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it is a red dwarf. Those planets are guaranteed tidally locked. It is either going to be extremely hot vs extremely cold (if not atmo) or uniformly extremely hot (venus) on account the atmo dispersing the captured heat

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FTL is inevitable.

>> No.15306174

it always turns into this when there is nothing happening in space exploration

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it has no magnetosphere to speak off. Which means the solar winds blow anything light into the infinite space while heavies like carbon dioxide are left cooking the thing.

It has barely any rotation and even then it is counter rotation compared to every single fucking planet in the entire system. Even Uranus which is on its side literally rolling along its orbit, one pole always facing the sun, one always in darkness. No rotation=no magnetosphere. Really crying shame too as otherwise it is almost perfectly the same size as earth while next door neighbor, much closer and acessible the fucking arctic desert Mars. Which means with cross world insemination being very much a thing with asteroid bombardments earth could have seeded venus with basic building blocks. That could have turned into a separate ecosystem mirroring earth if Venus was not smacked in the head in its youth

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I wouldn't even bother looking at any star dimmer than a K5. TRAPPIST-1 is a M8, barely a star at all.

>> No.15306190

wasn't it also a pretty violent one prone to flaring?

>> No.15306194

FTL is impossible.

>> No.15306197

FTL already exists.

>> No.15306198

Are you saying you don't spend every minute of your time on /sfg/? That pasta is well known now among true Space Faggotry Generals

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>> No.15306202

Sweet, instead of looking upwards at the stars, I get to stare at other people's houses

>> No.15306206

I've got your cross world insemination right here, Earther
*unzips dick*

>> No.15306208

The universe expands faster than the speed of light.

>> No.15306209
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first gen Orion will be the spark that eventually unlocks that tech tree

>> No.15306211

Why extremely hot if atmosphere? Being tidally locked doesn't increase the total insolation.

>> No.15306214
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Just take an elevator to the axis and enjoy free fall while you stargaze

>> No.15306215

Common misconception. The Hubble constant has units of length per time *per length*. You can arbitrary pick any two points that are sufficiently distant to get a rate of expansion greater than the speed of light. That doesn't mean anything in real terms.

>> No.15306218

Imagine if Venus had evolved just different enough so we could have got that raining tropical paradise from old sci-fi novels...

>> No.15306220
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imagine wasting time on twitter instead of launching starship

>> No.15306221

Our estimates for the age of the universe would have to be wrong by several tens of billions of years.

>> No.15306223

>eternal venutian alienlet seething their women go to earth on tourist trips with their female only friends to "find themselves"

>> No.15306225
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Yeah it flares a lot and probably even more so in its youth

>> No.15306226

it does if it has no magnetosphere to stop light elements like hydrogen escaping with the solar winds eminating from the red dwarf. Leaving only heavies behind like CO2 to cook it. Exact same situation with Venus which is almost tidally locked.

>> No.15306231

Biden admin has given license to launch yet? We've been waiting for 2 years. Where is it?

>> No.15306232

That doesn't make sense. You're saying that if the light elements had stayed behind, that would cancel out the carbon dioxide?
You can only get a runaway greenhouse effect if the solar input is high enough, or if more carbon dioxide gets added. Venus has that because it's significant closer, barely on the edge of the hab zone

>> No.15306239

That makes no sense.

>> No.15306245

We all have to shit some time.

>> No.15306248

That's still incomprehensible. You just casually say "oh it's expansion" as if that explains everything. In special relativity you simply can't have a situation where an object is receding faster than the speed of light, but that's exactly what we see. We see an event horizon, and beyond that galaxies are simple invisible. It's not what you might be thinking off, where A and B are receding from C in the middle at nearly the speed of light, so C can say the gap is growing faster than light. That's not what the expansion is at all.

>> No.15306253

>universe is at least 93 billion lightyears across
>universe is 13.8 billion years old

>> No.15306258

Would have happened if the asteroid that fucked its rotation hit slightly differently. Then Venus would have a moon like we do and a normal rotation.

>> No.15306265

Your hairline recedes faster than light, maybe we can take that to the trappist system. Bald at 17 mother fucker

>> No.15306269

Imagine the possibilities. At least Venus would have been much more colonizable than Mars, and at best we would know of alien life right next to us.

>> No.15306272

Your mom shovels the buffet at golden corral faster than light, even tachyons can't escape

>> No.15306273

Enough about the past. Lets talk about the future, what would a base in the Europan ocean be like?

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>> No.15306276

GG you win.

>> No.15306281

How are you going to get the astronauts down there without them being obliterated by the radiation belt?

>> No.15306286
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What are we thinkin' fags? How could these be tackled one by one.

>> No.15306289

go to callisto instead

>> No.15306291

Just make a ground base on Callisto and pilot probes remotely from there.

>> No.15306292

Tuesday, March 28
5:30 a.m. – Coverage of the undocking of the uncrewed Soyuz MS-22 spacecraft from the Rassvet Module of the International Space Station – Johnson Space Center (All Channels). The Soyuz MS-22 landing in Kazakhstan is scheduled at 7:45 a.m. EDT but will not be carried on NASA TV

>> No.15306299

Radiation is a non-issue (plasma magnet modified for shielding)

>> No.15306300

Shiiiieeet that's boring as fuck though. Definitely easier but you dont get to go diving in that ocean brah. How would you deal with sending back live specimens also? If this is for the purpose of searching for life and you find it, what are you gonna do after that?

>> No.15306306

All of jupiters moons have subsurface water though

>> No.15306310

Wait speaking of pressure, couldn't you make a base IN the ice further down instead of on the ocean floor? This could help with the pressure issue if I'm not thinking like a retard right now. Also, are there ocean currents on Europa? Could use hydroelectric generators if there is to solve the energy issue.

>> No.15306313

Europa is the best candidate for life of all of them though
>Io ignored
Ok bro.

>> No.15306315

>That's not what the expansion is at all.
Correct. It's not. Nothing is moving in any significant way relative to the cosmic microwave background.

>> No.15306324

Look anon, I like space and I like sci-fi, but me liking something doesn't make it real.
Exploring in space to the fullest requires a miracle breakthrough in science and engineering, which is something that can happen and I really wish it does, but the chance is so low I'd prefer not getting my expectations high.

>> No.15306325

also radiation belts can be drained (but you have to keep doing it or they just fill up again)

>> No.15306327

>How would you deal with sending back live specimens also?
Easily; there are none. Euriia is just a pointless ball.

>> No.15306328


>> No.15306332

Fair enough, set up a base on Callisto and off to Titan we go then.

>> No.15306336


>> No.15306339

Is there enough carbon in Callisto to produce methane? If not then the only option for ISRU fuel would be hydrologgs

>> No.15306340

ISRU? Hydrologgs?

>> No.15306341

Then let's knab some seawater and eggs of creatures at hydrothermal vents and methane lakes, then panspermia the shit out of the jovian moons

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>> No.15306345

>NTP for manned Mars missions is a meme
Is that because it's overhyped, or because it's genuinely less efficient than solar?

>> No.15306347

interesting point. I wonder how much thought Elon has given to making his toilet time more productive, given that his time is worth thousands of dollars a minute.

>> No.15306351

Take the geology pill, 99.9999999999999+% of all planets and planetoids in our local galactic neighborhood might be dead rocks without life, but they’re all fascinating in their own way. Who gives a shit about life anyways? All life does is evolve sentience and eventually tribalize over sex organs and skin color. Rocks will never let you down. Just geochemically and structurally bonding with eachother for billions of years and making cool ass structures to go look at

>> No.15306361
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If it doesn't turn right in the next three hours it's probably not headed to Hawaii

>> No.15306363

You been playing Barotrauma recently?

>> No.15306365

Forgot link

>> No.15306369

Nah I haven't, should I give it a whirl?

>> No.15306374

>north korea suspecting of preparing to test a nuke today
why dont civilians have access to launch plumes yet? imagine all the secret launches we could see long before they get announced.

>> No.15306380

It's like the bastard child of Das Boot and SS13, so if that's your bag, go for it.

>> No.15306386

Speaking of space related games, I heard KSP2 is a hot mess, should I wait to see if it gets better or no? I've never played KSP1 also.

>> No.15306387

Play KSP1 then come back in 3+ years and ask again.

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>~2 weeks

>> No.15306407

>should I wait to see if it gets better
Yes. Absolutely.

>> No.15306444

Looks like it's heading towards the Panama Canal to me.

>> No.15306464

>he still thinks starship will launch in april

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vintage schizoposting is kino

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>> No.15306512

graphic design is my passion

>> No.15306513

And the economic factors of an individual will be influenced by their intelligence. I get you don't like it, but IQ is a good predictor for a large variety of outcomes, and those can be inter related.

A smarter couple can decide that they will have fewer children or delay having children because of the economy, where a less intelligent couple have a fee kids, because they are not as likely to plan. That is still intelligence playing a role.

We don't hate people for not having a high IQ, if I could add 10 points to everyone or bring everyone below 90 up to it I would. That would be great for them and society.

And IQ isn't the only thing that needs to be considered, you also want people to be healthy, long lived, strong, healthy weight. All of these can and should be encouraged, but also have a genetic component that should be recognized.

In theory money is the method of eugenics, the people with the qualities that society selects for are rewarded, then can afford more children, welfare breaks this and sort of flips the script.

So in short no welfare in space [to stay sfg related]

>> No.15306528

I just tried to use MidJourney v5 to generate some images of an asteroid mining colony, its pretty good but has the issue of turning the asteroid into a boulder on the moon. Anyone know some good space related prompts? I paid $30 and cant refund anymore so might as well use it this month

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>> No.15306534

One thing this analysis doesn't take into account is the Nuetron could very well have a lower recycle cost than Falcon 9 eventually. Think not having to fish the fairings out of the ocean, one less ship. No barges to maintain. Further AlLi may be cheaper than Cfiber but Falcon 9 is a conventionally made item. Much of Electron is already robotically made on big drums. Beck has suggested that a lot of this tooling can be used for neutron and will be simpler to manufacture. No part is better than the best part. So having legs molded right into the tank when made is going to save some. Will it be enough to compete with StarShip maybe not but could buy em time to corner a market like Northrup Grummen.

>> No.15306538

Honestly I doubt it will even compete. It will survive based solely on the fact that the gooberment likes muh options, and that there will be retards salty enough to want to fly on something that isn’t a Musk rocket. And this category should really be going to New Glenn in theory, but that isn’t realistic

>> No.15306540

Based, imagine the efficiency gains
Also no fairing needed

>> No.15306541

Wealth distribution is historically not in line with IQ distribution, since, simply put, wealth is inherited more than IQ over multiple generations. A lack of welfare services leads to crime, which leads to more poverty, which leads to more crime, etc. Unless you go the route of just letting them starve (which is politically untenable even if you can stomach it personally) then people are going to be stupid and have children they can't afford, which only compounds with less access to education and other services.

>> No.15306543

you guys really want SeX to monopolize launches?

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What are we thinking on proonted rogget btw? Will they be gobbled up or do they stand a chance of becoming a permanent player in the spacelaunch ecosystem? I know theyre a meme but its not like theyre Astra.

>> No.15306548

Also shameless double posting, but
>inb4 your stupid rebuttal
CLD is still in its early phase but I guaranfuckingtee you it will be tailor-made to give New Glenn, Vulcan, and Neutron things to do. Aka send up cargo with some new evolved shit Cygnus and DreamChaser at ludicrous prices

>> No.15306552

Well everyone will give you a different answer. I personally hate all fucking memelaunch companies. However, I have a soft spot for Relativity. They seem more competent than everyone else. I’m slowly shifting away from this though… I suspected this first launch might have failed but even so, Musk has shown it’s still cheaper to just weld metal sheets together. And their social media posts with people jumping around like dorks makes me cringe. Honestly fuck everyone that isn’t SpaceX that’s where I’m at these days

>> No.15306554

Yes? A better scenario would be one or two companies really giving him a run for his money so he doesn’t get too complacent… but that’s very obviously not happening any time soon. I’m not a 1, and I have a lot of shit to talk against SX and their fucking Starship delays, but SpaceX are LEAGUES ahead of anyone else at this point. I can’t even name someone who could be considered close

>> No.15306556

Im at the same spot but trying to atleast feel supportive of other companies, but theyre all just so comparatively incompetent and slow. I know Blue Origin will be around later down the line, that Blue Alchemist technology was pretty promising and is what has me thinking they’ll make it. Just not sure of any other of these launch companies, I really wish I could support them fully.

>> No.15306557

Solid core is hardly an improvement over solar thermal. All the tricks you can do with electrically boosted exhaust, you can also do with a solar thermal power plant.

>> No.15306560

>Blue Alchemist technology was pretty promising
No it fucking wasn’t get your head out of your ass. You bought into the propaganda

>> No.15306564

Obviously unproven and isnt even using real lunar regolith I knew that, but seems like you may know more. So, why is that BO thing fake and gay?

>> No.15306566

Try using negative prompts to make it stay away from the Moon. I've never used it myself, just going by what I've heard.

>> No.15306569

Heat-melting regolith into aluminum and oxygen, then making more mirrors for thermal power plants, is a better use of energy.

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Why do so many of these crypto kikes suck Elon’s shit through a tube? Dont promise what you cant deliver and you wont catch shit for delays.

>> No.15306574

It shows nothing about scale, practicality, or usefulness. Anyone and their mother can take a simulated regolith and account for known constituents to make a little science experiment. Especially now that manufacturing processes have progressed so much in the last decade. It’s a fucking stupid side project that was just meant to fill in the ‘news’ portion of the BO website. I wouldn’t be surprised if I learned the whole blue alchemist project actually started 2 months before the article was even published and that the article was basically in draft before the first success was even made

>> No.15306578

Kek there is a nonzero chance someone high-ish up at BO listened to the MECO podcast with Berger a couple of months ago where he talked about blue needing to focus on “things SeX aren’t doing, such as ISRU fabrication” and just pitched it to jeff

>> No.15306580

because him shilling the funni yellow dog coin made so many people who bought it as a joke in 2016 filthy fucking rich

>> No.15306584

The whole crux of their company is questionable. The rocket isn't lighter and the build time isn't faster, at least as things currently stand. They picked a gimmick and ran with it, which is unfortunately the state of things in newspace. We'll see how far they manage to run with it weighing them down.
Like most newspace companies, I think they should be focusing on the payload market instead of launch, and this is actually a scene I think they could do well in. If they adapted one of their printer setups for operation in vacuum 0g, that thing could churn out useful pressurizable volume in orbit, using compact and easily-launched spools of material. They could- and should- be developing this capability instead of faffing about with gimmick rockets.
I'm now mad enough to write a letter to Tim about this, I think I'll do that tomorrow.

>> No.15306588

>Musk promised me the moon
>He only got me the most reliable rocket with the only reusable orbital class rocket with the highest payload capability with the cheapest rate with the candance possible for a rocket with the fastest turn around time


>> No.15306589

They're at least less of a meme that spinlaunch

>> No.15306593

>*Angerly plays Whitey on the Moon on the ukulele*

>> No.15306596

Listen, I think he’s great and is basically the entire space launch sector right now, but do you not get annoyed ever that Starship has been delayed for how long now? Its okay to criticize the guy for promising things way too early while appreciating what he’s doing. Im not some anti-Elon bunker troon but lets be real here.

>> No.15306600

>do you not get annoyed ever that Starship has been delayed for how long now?
No because I don't want it to fucking RUD on the pad. I don't mind them taking their time.

>> No.15306601

FAA has delayed it with environmentalist concerns
With bullshit requirements
With bullshit regulations
With bullshit Biden cocksucking

If SpaceX had their way, we'd already see the 20th Starship launch by now, even if the first 3 failed

>> No.15306606

Spacex SS team turned into pussies, they aren’t ready to launch. Simple as; there is no argument

>> No.15306607

Fair enough, still should’ve seen it coming as they’re building the most powerful launch vehicle ever.

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>> No.15306611

Faggots who think SpaceX are only going slow with Starship now because the FAA are still doing their licensing are the exact same faggots trying to claim Dream Chaser would be ready “if only they won ComCrew!!”

>> No.15306612

Fuck off glowie

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>> No.15306634

Seethe more

>> No.15306647

Yeah that would actually be i teresting
Rocketlab has a sidebusiness of making satellite buses
I dont know if any of the other newspace startups habe side businesses focusing on payload or space applications in general
I mean if Starship is like the spac truck or soace railroad equivalent to wild wests railroad, you still ha e to come up with something to do when you get there
Maybe its difficult to get funding for anything else except launch

>> No.15306651

Thats because right now we’re in the stage of just laying the tracks. Would you invest in that prospecting company that’s going out west where literally only Lewis and Clark have been? I wouldnt, not until results came back and the actual railway there was built and stable.

>> No.15306653

Also, in this same analogy, SpaceX is the railroad company that is just going around a small hill while the other memelaunch companies are trying to lay tracks under the hill by taking twice as long with tunnels when its completely unnecessary.

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Lmao the Oumuamua guys didn't got the "FTL or bust" memo, also neither that one that says that non-chemical propulsion is a scam

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Fuck it was this one, fucking kike google

>> No.15306683

So… is planet 9 fake and gay or is there merit behind Mike Brown’s beliefs?

>> No.15306693

I don't think it exists

>> No.15306695

You mean Planet X

>> No.15306702

It exists but not in the way they say. There's a smaller, closer planet, about 1 Earth mass, and it accounts for the Kuiper Cliff.

>> No.15306712

Pluto exists, I've seen the photos.

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>> No.15306728

Kek, Eric Andre show is kino

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Why is Enceladus such a shithole little pebble?

>> No.15306770

We don't have a commercially available heavy warp drive. FTL is real. FTL has, and you've seen 'em down at Area 51. We're building the wormhole, we're building the wormhole generator. Uh, we have all the Casimir plates already done, ready to be put on the test stand at Vandenberg. Um, but I don't see any hardware for an Alcubierre Heavy e-except that he's gonna take 3 Heavy, 3, 3 Alcubierre drives and put 'em together and that becomes the Heavy.

It's not that easy in quantum mechanics.

>> No.15306782

It's just like your penis, anon

>> No.15306799

Next thread is going to be another space booba thread

>> No.15306820

What is wrong with them

>> No.15306822

they are autistic and want attention from eachother by jumping around like that + by posting this video somwhere

>> No.15306826

>white people

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It's a pretty funny clip
>check it out we saw this rocket launch
>actual rocket is just a tiny speck in the video
>actually the video is just about them spazzing out for clout

>> No.15306830

I think the one with the green head is black?

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The man that runs in from the right is clearly black.

>> No.15306838

don't reply to obvious bait anon. Your first clue was 'highly politicized metric' (it's a pretty basic test which even the army uses to gatekeep recruits). Your second clue was 'all in economics', some rich people reproduce much more than average (see: elon musk) and some much less. The same with poor or middle income groups.

>> No.15306841

>look at me, i'm such a nerd
instead of
>look at this cool rocket
do they even give a shit about the rocket itself or spaceflight? could you replace that with any niche interest and they wouldn't really care?
kind of reminds me of that one pic with a niche interest group gradually inviting people in, first its some random friends that are kind of interested, then these friends invite some other people, perhaps a girl, then people come in because there are girls and perhaps due to the community itself, after a while the niche interest itself is irrelevant
now when I think about it, isn't this like what a lot of anime conventions are like? haven't been to one but this histrionic behaviour kind of makes it seem like that, its people getting attention, not really caring about the subject

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this is exactly what I've been saying, its obvious why musk bought twitter and has been talking about all this random stuff so much lately
usa going communistic or something is an existential threat to Musks companies and seeing the goals through

>> No.15306925

meanwhile a company he helped to found is now on the cusp of triggering an AGI jobpocalypse by replacing half of the workforce with computers

and that's NOT going to cause as many issues as twitter having a leftist bias?

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>> No.15306937

I'm sure the AI will be Based and Marspilled

>> No.15306940

Nobody is saying that AI revolution won't cause issues, but that's inevitable. Adapt or die. For Tesla it's better to be one of the early adopters.

>> No.15306941

The AI will simply kill off the useless eaters with autonomous killbots

>> No.15306946

he started it to lessen the damage the coming AI revollution will have and started Neuralink as well for humans to merge with AI, which will also lessen the probability everything goes to shit

he is 10 steps ahead of you

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>> No.15306954

Neuralshit will be pointless when AI can achieve everything a person can even with irreversible brain implants

>> No.15306960

not to mention UBI >>15306932

this is an article from 2018


I remember some interview from 2010-12 or something like that where he mentioned it too, but cant be arsed to find it
might be this one

>> No.15306962

its to make interfacing with it quicker and might help aligning it

>> No.15306967

Fuck off back to LessWrong.
AI has no initiative. It's purely reactive.

>> No.15306970

the only thing your doing is becoming an actual bot by interfacing with it, you will never beat an AI at it's own game of super Intelligence.

>> No.15306971

>you will never beat an AI at it's own game of super Intelligence.
t. AI

>> No.15306980

just giving you the cold hard facts, I will live a happy life staying all natural other than a few biological tweaks here and there until I die at the good old age of 120 with my future loving family by my side.

>> No.15306982

>Neuralink as well for humans to merge with AI
>just become a slave, bro!

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>> No.15307003

the AI is your slave man

>> No.15307006

anything is better than spaceplanes

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In other more lighter news on the end of the thread, a tranny is seething about Europa Clipper not launching on SLS
shitting on trannies is something the /pol/brains can appreciate as well no doubt

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One of the reasons Lueders got booted I guess?

>> No.15307020

Stop and think for a second why did you think it is imperative that we see this.

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what a laughable cadence

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>> No.15307028

it is spaceflight related discussion
stop eating hormones, you aren't a woman

>> No.15307038

I'm not the one seeking out trannies and making them the obsession of my life.

>> No.15307039

It really was a nonissue. There's nothing wrong with scientists lying to Uncle Sam so long as it hurts oldspace and Boing

>> No.15307042

>Dr Cheese Pizza

>> No.15307043

Your first reaction to being called out for bringing some rando twitter garbo opinions here is to imagine me as a tranny, and you're telling me it is me having issues.

>> No.15307048

Mir is so kino. A mishmash of random shit. Meanwhile the ISS is so methodical, planned out and sterile.

>> No.15307054

why are you replying to yourself?
keep crying bitch nigga
also, you will never be a woman

>> No.15307093

Ramblings of a psychopathic faggot

>> No.15307146

>we NOW HAVE a hole in SLS cadence
(emphasis above mine)
>SLS production is far from the limiting factor
So he/she is claiming SLS would magically get built faster if only there were a need for it to do more? Yeah fuck off troon—it’s supposed to bring humans to lunar orbit. You know, probably the most important job there could possibly be? And it can’t even match one rocket output a year. SLS apologizers are even more delusional than pockocmoc leaders

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do we need a new one of these for zoomers?

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stfu tranny

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clearing up

>> No.15307176

>be me
>work at SpaceX as a janitor
>one day Elon Musk comes to visit
>he sees me mopping the floor
>"Hey kid, you wanna go to Mars?"
>hell yeah I do
>he gives me a spacesuit and a ticket
>tells me to get on the next rocket
>no questions asked
>I'm so excited
>get on the rocket with other passengers
>we blast off into space

>meanwhile in Amazon HQ
>Jeff Bezos is watching the launch on TV
>he is furious
>"How dare he send people to Mars before me?"
>he calls his assistant
>"Get me a rocket, now!"
>he puts on his cowboy hat and boots
>runs to the launch pad
>jumps on the rocket
>he flies after SpaceX rocket

>a few months later
>we arrive at Mars
>Elon Musk is there to greet us
>he gives us a tour of the colony
>shows us the farms, the factories, the domes
>everything is awesome
>I love it here
>suddenly we hear a loud noise
>a huge explosion in the sky
>we look up and see another rocket crashing down
>it's Jeff Bezos
>he survived the crash somehow
>he crawls out of the wreckage
>"I'm here to claim Mars for Amazon!"
>he pulls out a flag with a smiley face on it
>tries to plant it on the ground
>but the ground is too hard
>he can't do it

>Elon Musk walks up to him calmly
>"Hello Jeff, welcome to Mars."
>"This is my planet now, Elon. You can't stop me."
>"Actually, I can. You see, this is not Mars."
>"What do you mean?"
>"This is Phobos, one of Mars' moons. We tricked you."
>"What? No! That's impossible!"
>"Look at your GPS. It says Phobos. You're on the wrong planet, Jeff."
>Jeff Bezos starts crying like a baby

>I laugh so hard I almost pee myself
>this is the best day ever


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>> No.15307207

>crypto kikes
umm sweety, Musk is now king chud since you have not been paying attention

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here's all I could come up with, thanks to the anon who posted the noodle people pic

>> No.15307211

These impact glass containing water due to solar wind might be very important for future colonization of the solar system
almost guaranteed to find water everywhere?

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I wouldn't be surprised if there are veins of subsurface lunar ice well away from the poles

>> No.15307218

still a lot better concentration than (giggle) helium-3

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nah wait, except for the one wearing a green hoodie or something, they're all female

>> No.15307250

I wish electron was bigger and veiny.

>> No.15307279

Starship is a spaceplane

>> No.15307280

70 degree AoA during reentry, which keeps it lofted high due to shunting air down for lift, and thus it decelerates at low g forces

>> No.15307291

Tylo especially

>> No.15307292

Or it doesn't, and pull a Snine.

>> No.15307302

Fucking hate that place

>> No.15307303

>buy in to using Starship to go to Mars
>"also we will use SLS/Orion :)"
Fuckin thing SUCKS

>> No.15307305

What did you expect from aerojew shekeldyne?

>> No.15307310

Do you eat literal shit? You type like a shit eater

>> No.15307313

what are they doing these days? I thought they were de facto dead.

>> No.15307322

How is Aerojet relevant? Politicians are the ones that forced NASA to build and use SLS.

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>scaffolding being removed
>SPMTs with counterweights moved to the launch site
>road closure on Wednesday
Launch on 4/20, God wills it.

>> No.15307329

I was only half joking when I suggested it, it may very well come to pass

>> No.15307332

Because their name is on the slide you moutbreather?

>> No.15307334

I didn't see it.

>> No.15307335

>still no faa approval

>> No.15307337

C- on the history report they have to re-do it for Ms. Baker

>> No.15307348

Trannies have mindbroken - absolutely fucking mindbroken you its hilarious, you visit /pol/ often by any chance?

>> No.15307372

>Targeting pad readiness by late next week

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>> No.15307384

define "pad readiness"

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>> No.15307396

The ScrumMaster goes on vacation

>> No.15307457

The pad isn’t even fucking done, SpaceX isn’t ready

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Is this why Europe doesn't have a competitor to SpaceX?

>> No.15307480

Partly. The other part is ESA being underfunded and lacking ambitions. Overcomplicated bureaucracy doesn't help either.

>> No.15307483

this is just the positive side of American multiculturalism that nobody talks about
yeah, it makes us a low-trust and unengaged society, but it produces innovation and wealth like nobody else
it's how we stay on top

>> No.15307485

Europe doesn't have a competitor to SpaceX for the same reason NASA doesn't have a competitor for SpaceX. They have this BS geographically-focused "you get out what you put in" budget allocation formula, so even if a startup did succeed in Europe it wouldn't get the money unless it somehow started subsidiaries across the entire continent

>> No.15307487



fags can keep seething lmao

>> No.15307489

Range safety officer, recommend abort

>> No.15307494

you can have high skill immigration without taking random mexicans in too
don't mix these two things, you don't have to take in phds and millions of unskilled labor at the same time, you can just take in the phds