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IPCC just released their report and I hate to find that, again, there seem to be no possible other causes for global warming than GHG.
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/

I found a study a while ago than showed that GHG had near no influence on climate change and that the scientific community should seek for other causes but I can't find it anymore

>> No.15289819 [DELETED] 

I trust Jews with all of my heart and all of my soul. It is impossible to quantify our debt we owe to Israel.

>> No.15290255 [DELETED] 

>>15289819
>It is impossible to quantify our debt we owe to Israel.
If only that were true, then we wouldn't b on the hook for sending endless real quanities of genuine wealth to israel, we could just pay them off in intangibles

>> No.15292435 [DELETED] 

Jannie deleted all of the previous replies to this thread because some scientific topics are not allowed to be discussed

>> No.15292447

Why is the ipcc so corrupt?

>> No.15293307 [DELETED] 

>>15292447
>why is ZOG NWO so evil
in a word, jews

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>> No.15294072

>>15293505
i bet you can't actually explain what's he saying without going "aha he said hide the decline"

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>> No.15294222

>>15289810
>Climate Change
Big Scam
Money making scam and cult that attracts losers with no purpose in their lives, so they latch on to the Climate Change Cult to try to give meaning to their meaningless lives.

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>> No.15294366

>>15294357
The wild part is they memory-holed that article and the data fraud was only rediscovered through this email.

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>> No.15294591 [DELETED] 

>the world is coming to an and in longer than the attention spam of people with average intelligence
good way to manipulate the dumbest half of the population

>> No.15294595

>>15294591
They might have gotten away with it, but too many people got high on their own supply and they forgot to switch the messaging for 3 generations in a row. They used to track with every cycle claiming an ice age or warming but now they're stuck having to fraudulently make a cooler period seem hot.

>> No.15294602

>>15289810
That's not what it says.
Ghg can influence climate change but they're not always the only or primary driver.

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>> No.15294662

>>15294222
Yeah just like right wing populism and vaccine hesitancy.

>> No.15294665

I don't care about the evidence I will not believe in climate change

>> No.15294667

>>15294662
kek! good one fellow 4channer!

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>> No.15294673

>>15294667
Touched a nerve huh :)

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>> No.15294678

>>15294673
yes, you activated my humor circuit ahaha!

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>> No.15294828

>>15289810
>IPCC just released their report and I hate to find that, again, there seem to be no possible other causes for global warming than GHG.
Human-generated GHG or the massive amounts belched out by volcanos? How come Al Gore's correlation between historical CO2 and temperature showed that temperature led CO2, not the reverse? If CO2 is a factor, how much of an impact does the first megaton of CO2 in the atmosphere have compared to additional amounts added to the present total?

>>15292447
>Why is the ipcc so corrupt?
One possibility is it's like Alzheimer's. Important people tricked themselves onto the wrong path decades ago and now everybody's stuck following that premise. Additionally the earlier scientists who better understood the underlying math, statistics, physics, may be replaced by specialized climate scientists who take models from that time period as given without necessarily fully understanding how their new analyses may invalidate parts of what they're relying on.
Another possibility is there's a group of influential entities working in international spaces like the UN, who are deeply concerned about Limits to Growth, and climate change (formerly global warming) was selected as the most likely scenario to allow their side to gain the necessary control and influence over the public to stop the predicted Malthusian conclusion. So they support the ipcc and its members and other possible authorities to push their messaging.

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>>15292447
the un concocts false narratives in order to push their poorly hidden nwo agendas

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>> No.15295041 [DELETED] 

>>15294932
digging into their motives and unscrupulousness is pilled, tom wigley's wiki page shows no evidence of his duplicity and deceptiveness.
for a guy who gets over 1000 citations annually, there should be more public information about his true, hidden personality. fair warning for everyone else

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https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5390923/pg1?c1=1&c2=1&disclaimer=Continue

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>> No.15296649

i wish i could thank mann in person. he opened my eyes to how science can be corrupted and you can manipulate data to show whatever you want. i always held science in prestige, that it always looks for the truth. it doesn't. it is just as bought out as everything else and scientists will agree with whomever is paying them. since seeing his fraud it has made me question things i didn't previously and there is always an angle - follow the money - as the saying goes.

>> No.15298841

>>15289810
Have you guys seen this guy's videos? He does deep dives in the climate research and data and debunks many alarmist claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIfhTpJ9vU

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its funny because its true

>> No.15299530

>>15298841
Vid has some label attached to it asserting climate change is man made. Holy fuck the people who run YouTube should get cancer.

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>>15299530
they are the cancer

>> No.15299888

>>15296649
>question things
like medical things or physics things?

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>>15293505
>>15294167
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>>15294605
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>>15294668
>>15294675
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>>15295045
>>15295059
>>15296288
fukkin saved

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>> No.15302433

>>15301418
based

>> No.15303105 [DELETED] 

>>15301418
thanks for the meaningful data set. unlike the fake global warming data, yours isn't a forgery.
how ironic is that? when the scientists pubish, its all lies, when their hidden, secret emails are published, it reveals the truth about what kind of people scientists really are

>> No.15303138

>>15292447
Psychopaths are the most driven to climb the hierarchy.

>> No.15303259

>>15301418
I'm surprised the jannies deleted the post you replied to but left yours. Last time I posted that the thread got swept up ASAP.

>> No.15303971 [DELETED] 

>>15303259
Jannie has been suffering from psychological difficulties lately, badly confused and having difficulty making heads or tails of whats going on in the world around xim. Its begun to affect Jannie's performance on the job, as you can see

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>>15294828
Demonstrably false
It’s the climate denier shill again. How much do they pay you?

>> No.15304003

>>15296649
Why do you ignore that all of his code has been published as well as all the code and data of all the other studies that have replicated his results?

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>>15304003
>>15296649

>> No.15304008

>>15303993
>>15304003
>>15304007
lol desperate samefag.

>> No.15304012

>>15304008
Answer my questions and look at the data. You’ve been samefagging this whole thread

>> No.15304013

>>15304012
Risperdal will help with those delusions.

>> No.15304016

>>15304013
Answer the question. Why does CO2 have the isotopic signature of fossil fuels? What are your arguments against the pages 2k project? https://github.com/CommonClimate/PAGES2k_phase2

>> No.15304017

>>15304016
See >>15301418
I simply don't listen to lies from proven liars. Maybe if they had been honest once in their lives they might get a fair hearing from people.

>> No.15304019

>>15304017
Where are the lies of isotopic data? You should be able to direct me to them.
Answer the question

>> No.15304022

>>15298841
This is really fantastic. He does a lot of good physics that people are usually afraid to tackle.

>> No.15304026

>>15304019
he is just doing his job. it's this or cleaning the designated shitting street.

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>>15304022
>modified
If CO2 was at saturation it would be clear in the data and the relationship would be flat by now. We’re not even close.

>> No.15304048

>>15304042
Go sweep up another thread, janny. We do science here.

>> No.15304049

>>15304048
Answer the question and stop deflecting

>> No.15304051

>>15304049
There was no question in your post.

>> No.15304054

>>15304051
Stop deflecting and answer the question. Why does the data disprove you?

>> No.15304056

>>15304054
It doesn't. His data is correct and yours is just gobbledygook posted to pretend at knowledge.

>> No.15304065

>>15304056
Why do the actual observations don’t show it? Why does the isotopic composition of CO2 confirm it’s from fossil fuels?

>> No.15304067

>>15304065
>Why do the actual observations don’t show it?
You didn't post any.

>> No.15304068

>>15304067
I did your just ignoring them

>> No.15304070

>>15304068
You're not very intelligent then. Posting models isn't posting measurements. But you can watch more of the videos of the linked scientist and he explains why the measurements are interpreted wrongly.

>> No.15304074

>>15304070
There are no models posted. Why is the temperature CO2 relationship not flat by now? Do you also think isotopic data is fake too?

>> No.15304080

>>15304074
Your post is of a model. You can see the projection line drawn on it.

>> No.15304084

>>15304080
Answer the question about the observations. It’s pretty simple. Do the measurements show a flat relationship or not?

>> No.15304088

>>15304084
Why did you lie?

>> No.15304098

>>15304088
Answer the question. It’s pretty simple. No models, just observations and isotopic measurements

>> No.15304106

>>15304098
So you admit to lying. Why?

>> No.15304109

>>15304106
Stop deflecting you coward. They’re pretty simple graphs

>> No.15304111

>>15304109
I don't address arguments from proven liars.

>> No.15304137

>>15304111
Are observational data lies?

>> No.15304147

>>15304137
You ruined your chance to present any legitimate data with your lies. You should leave the thread and let honest people discuss the science without you.

>> No.15304189 [DELETED] 

global warming is a ZOG scam, just like covid-19.
both of them play on the same mentally ill logic
"REEEEEE!!! YOU'RE BREATHING MY AIR!!"
is what they're thinking when they're lying and telling you that their concern is for "the good of humanity" or "to save mother earth"

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>> No.15304369

>>15304233
>>15304253
No wonder they hid their data. They weren't even smart enough to read it.

>> No.15304418

>>15304369
>>15304253
>>15304233
>We are not obliged to provide the data that would enable the research reported IN OTHER PAPERS to be checked, even if we cite those other papers
Pleas tell me how, exactly, they're supposed to provide what isn't theirs to give in the first place?

>> No.15304695 [DELETED] 

>>15304233
Note the return address.
Washington D.C. is a noteworthy city in the scientific community, noteworthy because none of it's academic institutions are in any way productive in scientific fields. Georgetown is a law school, U MD is a garbage dump and GWU is a bureaucrat training school.
So why headquarter Science Magazine there other than because its a political propaganda rag?

>> No.15304703

>>15294828
>stop the Malthusian conclusion
what do you mean by this? is it not in the elites best interest to accelerate it? why would they want to stop the malthusian decline? they WANT the population collapse by way of their logic of linear resources being insufficient for parabolic population growth. additionally, i suspect they believe that the reversal of the flynn effect is because of modern medical intervention which caused high mutational load bc sickness and iq are correlated.

>> No.15304728

>>15289810
>causes
The vast fluctuation of a thousand variables?

>> No.15304729

>>15294222
>Money making scam
It's about control and I guess then money. But mostly control.
If you control, then what's the point of money?

This is why it HAS to be CO2. This always them control over everything.
It's why there is no talk about chemicals destroying farmland, gmo, or etc from governments.
They want control and those issues are more just about money.

>> No.15304732

>>15294828
CO2 has basically no warming effect whatsoever past 400 ppm.

>> No.15304770

>oil companies make hundreds of bilions of dollars selling oil
>somehow it is their opponents that are lying for money
I will never understand the Chud mind

>> No.15304829

>>15304770
Oil companies literally own and run the alternatives in the majority of cases.

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>> No.15304974

>>15289810
wow what a shit thread.

>> No.15304998

>>15303971
nta but currently I'm banned from /a/ for something I'm still not sure merited any respoonse, I think recent janny hiring policies must have gotten sloppy or even more politicised

>> No.15306117

>>15304998
we've had employees of the democratic party moderating on 4chan for a long time
https://archived.moe/news/thread/973417/

>> No.15306122

>>15304998
>more politicised
Welcome to Democrat-Nazi World. The scum are everywhere, and it's time for bleach.

>> No.15306145

>>15306117
#gamergate proved that.

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>> No.15308473 [DELETED] 

>>15304042
fake news, you cassandras have been bitching about this shit for half a century and theres been no change in the climate whatsoever.
just go suck a dick or something, fill your face with cock to distract yourself from the internet, shilling climate faggotry is gay asf

>> No.15309355

>>15304966
Why does the IPCC hate truth, scientifically speaking?

>> No.15311042

>>15294072
In what forms of science is hiding and tricks acceptable?

>> No.15311109

>>15311042
Climate science and vaccine science apparently.

>> No.15311111

>>15311109
also nutrition science, cancer science, anything pharmaceutical etc, etc.

>> No.15311113

>>15311109
Probably more than just those obvious ones. The veil has been lifted and showing that most all of the science fields have been taken over by radical leftists and compromised by corporate interests that funnel money to those leftist "lawmakers".

>> No.15311115

>>15311109
Cellular biology according to Hillman and Ling.
Which means the entirety of the biological sciences field is suspect.

>> No.15311125

>>15303993
The amount of heat generated by the comet impact that killed 75% of life on Earth is approximately equal to the last 50 years of total human generated heat. And that's just the heat, looking at the amounts of methane, CO2, etc is even more remarkable.

>> No.15311147

>>15311125
Why would you bump the thread to reply to off-topic nonsense?

>> No.15311433

>>15311147
You're nonsense

All the data to calculate this is readily available

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global warming is transparently fake, but the idea of it sure does have a strong appeal amongst the mentally ill messiah complex crowd and their political allies

>> No.15311479

>>15311460
kek, so true.

>> No.15311605

>>15311460
Why do people with messiah complexes and grandiose delusions constantly lie about things, scientifically speaking?

>> No.15311653 [DELETED] 

>>15311605
the mentally ill are out of touch with reality because they are mentally ill. until 50 years ago they got locked up in mental hospitals and most people never had to deal with them and their incessant manipulative attempts at persuasion

>> No.15312217

These threads are populated entirely with shills and bots. Global warming is real.

>> No.15312232

>>15311653
The irony of a science denier saying this to himself

>> No.15312443

>>15294932
This thinking is what perverts science.

>> No.15312677

>>15294932
did you actually fucking read that? he's not saying he doesn't care about what is true, he's saying journal publishers don't care about what is true and thus appealing to their morality won't work

>> No.15312682

>>15312677
These retards don't care and people have already pointed out blatantly obvious dishonesty in this narrative. e.g. >>15304418

No, they don't fucking read it. Same with every other anti-science schizo.

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>> No.15313625

>>15313209
Accurate.

>> No.15314310 [DELETED] 

>>15313625
to hate truth is to hate god

>> No.15314339

>>15304729
>destroying farmland, gmo, or etc from governments.
GMOs are fine though? It's still the same plant
The big problem is the obsession with pollution for worthless work
Why is everyone so desperate to go somewhere and ship things, everything is in a rush of psyop after psyop, and in the end beautiful land ends up getting squared away and forgotten, family estates producing their own food are beaten back for a nonsense model of existence
My local area is beautiful but the absolute lack of care by every person who walks through here I have an inner hatred of everyone
They don't understand the plants

>> No.15314495

>>15314339
The elites want you to think you're helping the planet with grandiose delusions (see >>15311605) but they want the actions they recommend to harm the environment and people's access to it as much as possible in order to keep people from being self-sufficient.

>> No.15315257

>>15304770
1. Oil production doesn’t stop. It just gets monopolised by “government-certified” companies. It is an anti-competitive measure, because now if you as a small entrepreneur want to start an oil company to compete with the big players it will be virtually impossible unless you have a huge team of lawyers and lobbyists to skirt government regulation. It therefore protects the big oil companies, not harms them.

>> No.15315258

>>15315257
2. Unlike Kings, who gain their legitimacy from ancient custom, democratic politicians gain their legitimacy from their supposed “energy”. They must always be seen to be doing something: waging some war, saving us from some catastrophe, redistributing wealth, imposing regulations and taxes. A monarch didn’t have to do anything to prove his legitimacy; it was recognised by custom and heritage, which is why even women and children could become rulers. A politician on the other hand always needs to prove his usefulness to society to retain legitimacy. It is therefore necessary in a democracy for there to be constant crises, whether fabricated or real, to keep the public in a state of fear so they look to the state to save them. By this means politicians and oligarchs in bed with the state increase their power and crush competition.
This explains why they constantly fabricate/exaggerate crises: 9/11, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Coronavirus, racial conflict, and most importantly the climate narrative. This last one justifies their very existence because they claim it cannot be solved by private initiative and can only be solved through technocratic state coercion. It gives them free rein to regulate almost every single industry (from farms to car manufacturers to electronics companies to electricity providers to waste disposal companies to anything you can imagine) and even private individuals (eat bugs!).
In short, it gives the justification for the oligarchs and technocrats who are in charge of the state structure —- the managerial elite — to take full control of society, a fully dictatorial socialist regime ruled by technocrats. This is exactly what Schwab means by “you will own nothing and you will be happy”. In a word: it is the justification for the Mark of the Beast.

Does this prove that climate change isn’t real? No. But it demolished the simplistic “muh oil companies” argument.

>> No.15317134

i hope this thread shows people that whether its big oil or big green, the point is to separate you from your few dollars. there is always an agenda.

>> No.15318799

This thread is massively censored
https://archived.moe/sci/thread/15289810/
Jannie has deleted about 20% of the posts in this thread in support of it's transparently fake global warming SJW political narrative.

>> No.15320656

>>15301418
fukken saved