/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15276074]

What are the materialists thoughts in the placebo effect?
How is that possible in the materialist world?

[Anonymous No.15276152]

>brain processes (wrong) information
>brain passes result to body
>body reacts
Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.15276168]

>>15276152
>body reacts with a subjective experience (not physical)

materialkeks btfo once again

[Anonymous No.15276210]

it could be harnessed to raise quality of life if one so desired

[Anonymous No.15276215]

>>15276168
wtf r u talking about? the placebo effect is a measurable physical reaction. there's nothing subjective about it.

[Anonymous No.15276216]

>>15276168
Can you show that "subjective experience" to me?

[Anonymous No.15276224]

>>15276074
Sensory Illusions like optical illusions but with other subjective feelings.

>>15276168
>with
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[Anonymous No.15276227]

>>15276215
They don't usually measure it physically, though, they measure it by asking how you feel in most cases.

[Anonymous No.15276236]

>>15276227
Completely false. That's not how double blind tests work anon and that is what is required to confirm an effect is real.

[Anonymous No.15276241]

>>15276236
Yes it is how they confirm the placebo effect, they ask you how you feel, they just don't tell you what you took until well after you tell them if you feel better or not.

[Anonymous No.15276247]

>>15276241
> they ask you how you feel
No they don't. What ever the fuck gave you that idea?!

[Anonymous No.15276252]

>>15276247
Because the first thing you are asked at the doctor is if you feel any pain and most modern medicine goes to disorders like anxiety and depression that are entirely based on feelings that can't be measured in any other way.

[Cult of Passion No.15276265]

>>15276074
>materialist

[Anonymous No.15276272]

>>15276252
Irrelevant anecdote, wtf does it have to with a controlled scientific experiment?

[Anonymous No.15276277]

>>15276272
Medical experiments are are performed by doctors and the first thing doctors directly studying you ask about is your feelings, not because of the anecdote it provides but because of the protocols of their science and that is the only way they can measure the efficacy of their feelings pills.

[Anonymous No.15276278]

>>15276277
Oh, I see. You're just an idiot.

[Anonymous No.15276284]

>>15276278
You are the one too retarded to realize that a scientific study is just a collection of anecdotes because that is all statistics is.

[Cult of Passion No.15276288]

>>15276277
>first thing doctors directly studying you ask about is your feelings
Psychiatry?!
L Ron Hubbard was close, its the potion making wotch doctors, not the reaearch side of Psychology, that is a threat. Therapists...yeah, sure, they need a kick in rhe rear from the Researchers from time to time but that was rejected by the masses because "muh feelings". Now we're watching them burn nation wide.

[Anonymous No.15276289]

>>15276247
How do you think something like pain is measured, anon?

[Cult of Passion No.15276291]

>>15276284
Youre not a research scientist. Youre a "my ignorance is equally valid as your knowledge".

[Anonymous No.15276306]

>>15276288
No, all scientific experiments involving humans since modern science must be ethical and ethics conform to feelings, so feelings are the first and last thing they will ask you when you consent to being in a scientific study.

>>15276291
No, its how every interaction with a doctor starts, they ask you about your pain and your feelings, no amount of whining about research credentials on an anonymous forum will change that.

[Anonymous No.15277375]

>>15276216
yeah, sure. look at yourself in the mirror: that weird feeling is called shame and its a subjective experience.

[Anonymous No.15277459]

>>15277375
I don't have a weird feeling when I see myself in the mirror. Maybe it's because unlike you I'm not ugly.

[bodhi No.15277464]

>>15276291
everything in that pic is true though

[Anonymous No.15277593]

>>15276074
no mental phenomenon threatens materialism.

[Anonymous No.15277613]

>>15277464
excellent job showing everyone you have eyes but no brain.

[Anonymous No.15277788]

>>15276291
Top kek. Materialists are seething cry bitches. They don't breed. They don't inherit shit. All they do is brainwash children f or daddy gubment.

[Anonymous No.15277803]

>>15276291
>brown is every color mixed together
I thought brown was dark orange.