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Anonymous Wed Mar 8 05:15:57 2023 No.15257440 [Reply] [Original]

What caused the late 20th century mini ice age?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 8 05:16:58 2023 No.15257443 >>15257440 Greta traveled back in time and stopped the warming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 8 05:20:48 2023 No.15257450 >>15257440 The sun, the same thing that causes all cyclical climate variation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 8 05:21:45 2023 No.15257451 >>15257450 Earth's magnetic field actually

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 8 06:21:31 2023 No.15257583 File: 366 KB, 1696x1325, cc_sun solar vs temp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 8 06:52:04 2023 No.15257623 >>15257451 Same thing. Earth is electrically connected to the Sun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 8 20:58:57 2023 No.15259216 >>15257583 So up to 1950 the short term peaks in solar irradiance is in anti phase with the short term temperature peaks, and then it inverts after 1950. Why?

Anonymous Wed Mar 8 21:01:20 2023 No.15259221

>>15259216
After 1950 the wandering of the poles kicked into overdrive and the Earth's magnetic field began to drastically weaken. At the same time irradiance declined but total solar energy entering the Earth system spiked due to electromagnetic forces from solar storms.

Anonymous Wed Mar 8 23:16:50 2023 No.15259554

>>15259221
>the Earth's magnetic field began to drastically weaken
How can that cause such inversions?

>irradiance declined but total solar energy entering the Earth system spiked due to electromagnetic forces from solar storms
What electromagnetic forces? Some kind of electromagnetic phenomenon that somehow is not irradiance?

Anonymous Thu Mar 9 00:09:30 2023 No.15259678

>>15259554
>What electromagnetic forces? Some kind of electromagnetic phenomenon that somehow is not irradiance?
Look up how solar particle discharges are coupled to the geomagnetic circuit. If you pay attention to NASA irradiance graphs during solar storms you can see total energy rises (in the form of charged particles) while irradiance plummets.

Anonymous Thu Mar 9 16:46:42 2023 No.15261651

>>15259678
>solar particle discharges are coupled to the geomagnetic circuit
I did, found nothing relevant.
Secondly, the issue was electromagnetic forces, and you replied with particle discharges. And I still haven't gotten an answer to my questions in >>15259554.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 9 19:13:19 2023 No.15261976 >>15261651 >I did, found nothing relevant. It's not my fault you're a stupid person. >And I still haven't gotten an answer to my questions in See point #1. You not understanding or not liking an answer doesn't make it false, it just makes you look bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 9 21:42:44 2023 No.15262301 >>15261976 So you haven't the faintest clue? Got it.

Anonymous Thu Mar 9 22:46:37 2023 No.15262446
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If we're just coming out of a late 1900s ice age then that means that ">muh global warming" is just a return to normal temperatures, not an end of the world scenario like the political classes keep on claiming

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 10 11:32:54 2023 No.15263624 >>15257623 evidently so. the sun has to be earthed somehow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 10 19:24:43 2023 No.15264421 >>15262446 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 10 19:27:53 2023 No.15264425 >>15262446 I still find it hard to believe releasing all this CO2 in the atmosphere just does nothing. Climate alarmists are just victims of "nothing ever happens" axiom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 10 19:29:51 2023 No.15264431 >>15264425 >I still find it hard to believe releasing all this CO2 in the atmosphere just does nothing. It makes plants grow more vibrantly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 11 02:57:41 2023 No.15265160 >>15264431 …And plants create a cooler environment. The forested city park in my town is routinely 10ºF or more cooler than downtown on hot summer days.

Anonymous Sat Mar 11 14:31:16 2023 No.15266038
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>>15257440
Increased emissions of substances like SO2, which have the opposite effect of greenhouse gases. These were banned in most countries in the 60s and 70s by things like the Clean Air Act due to causing health problems. Although even without the bans, the cooling would have been temporary due to the longer half-life of GHGs like CO2, which leads to more GHGs accumulating over time.
>>15257450
Complete brainlet take. Even if you ignore man-made global warming, there are factors other than changes in solar output that affect global temperature such as Milankovitch cycles. This is why some planets will warm while others will cool at the same time.

However, we know that neither the sun nor Milankovitch cycles are the cause of current warming, because either of those would result in the upper atmosphere also warming. Yet the upper atmosphere is cooling, which is consistent with there being more heat trapped in the lower atmosphere by GHGs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 11 17:13:34 2023 No.15266260 >>15265160 >rising CO2 levels = more plants = more evaporative cooling = lower global temperatures

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 11 19:16:41 2023 No.15266533 >>15266260 This.

>>	Monadas Sat Mar 11 20:58:39 2023 No.15267003 >>15266038 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 11 23:10:15 2023 No.15267344 >>15262446 >like the political classes keep on claiming the political classes, their propaganda agents and their brainwashed stooges who are cucked enough to serve as unpaid volunteer propaganda agents

Anonymous Sat Mar 11 23:17:48 2023 No.15267362

>>15267344
>the political classes, their propaganda agents and their brainwashed stooges who are cucked enough to serve as unpaid volunteer propaganda agents
Those are the worst of the worst of society and enemies of everyone and everything that is good.
Even murderers, rapists, pedos, cannibals, etc. are above those scum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 11 23:21:48 2023 No.15267371 >>15267362 >Even murderers, rapists, pedos, cannibals, etc. are above those scum. Because those scum are usually one or more of the above as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 11 23:45:03 2023 No.15267439 >>15267371 kek true.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 12 01:15:56 2023 No.15267700 >>15257440 Whens the next mini ice age? There was one in the late 1600s, the late 1700s, the late 1800s and the late 1900s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 12 01:16:57 2023 No.15267704 >>15267700 Pretty soon. The temperature has already dropped since the early 2000s.

Anonymous Sun Mar 12 01:22:48 2023 No.15267727
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>>15257440
Wasn't an ice age see graph. The northern hemisphere temperature drop was peculiar to the nothern hemisphere at that time. There were especially strong La Niña for most of those years. https://ggweather.com/enso/oni.htm

Anyhow I don't know how deep you want to get into causation but there are of course a number of papers on this https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/27/21/jcli-d-14-00301.1.xml with a variety of opinions and models. This one proposes a conjunction of a few causes contributing to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 12 01:31:14 2023 No.15267748 File: 43 KB, 400x290, 1678584168972731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15267727 nice photoshooped graph, troll. heres the original

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 12 01:33:17 2023 No.15267754 >>15267748 lol you need to namefag like the "virus don't real" guy that's funny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 12 01:42:12 2023 No.15267781 >>15267748 Based truth purveyor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 12 02:00:05 2023 No.15267826 >>15267727 >get into causation CORRELATION =/= CAUSATION. CO2 has nothing to do with the climate. That's a scam.

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