/med/ Medicine General: vexus protocol Ed.

[Anonymous No.15251334]

Previously: >>15220881

We discuss research, DO NOT offer advice (just fucking go see your doctor), make fun of premeds and shitpost.
Keep vaccination/clamping/vitamin K/soliciting advice out of this thread and start your own because it takes a lot of space.

[Anonymous No.15251381]

[Anonymous No.15251448]

sup my fellow meat mechanics

[Anonymous No.15251544]

>>15251448
Sup my fellow haloperidol fugitive.

[Anonymous No.15251828]

>>15251381
come with me, anon...

[Anonymous No.15251955]

This link is porn https://www.redgifs.com/watch/youthfultangibleafricanwilddog

Is there a reason that she has stretch marks that look like those from a birth on her but? I've never seen this before and its fascinating how out of place it looks.

[Anonymous No.15252051]

How did you guys choose your specialty? I graduate in a few months but havent decided yet.

I only picture myself in neurosurgery as of now, but i dont know if i want to give even more of my life to medicine since im far from workaholic

[Anonymous No.15252058]

>>15252051
>I only picture myself in neurosurgery as of now
>im far from workaholic
lol wut

[Anonymous No.15252077]

>>15252058
I mean, i enjoy surgery and neuroanatomy and neurology. I know the hours are absolute shitsovxn

[Anonymous No.15252084]

>>15251334
kingdom monera and kingdom fungi will revolutionize modern medicine
transhumanism is gay, retarded and not beneficial

[Anonymous No.15252100]

>>15252084
specially the modern research for transhumanism which does nothing other than suggesting ideas to implant chink pads inside human body to make consumerism more easy

[Anonymous No.15252237]

>>15252051
Rather than picking what I like I sorted myself out from other specs. I'm quasi autistic so I could never do a clinical spec that involved long hours of consultation and dealing with retarded patients. I kinda have good motor skills but would never stand more than two consecutive hours so that ruled out surgery.
I like high stress situations, deciding fast, turning the place upside down and refusing to elaborate so there was a good argument for EM and anesthesia.
I finally picked anesthesia because I never liked the idea of being a medical secretary and rounding up the hospital for interconsultants like EM chimps do. Also because muneh.

[Anonymous No.15253043]

Can pyrantel be used as substitute as antiparasitic for tapeworm?

[Anonymous No.15253073]

>>15253043
Depends on the type of tapeworm kind of infection, as it is only active inside the intestinal lumen. Not standard of care for either taeniasis or cysticercosis

[Anonymous No.15253094]

>>15253073
No other antiparasitic is otc where I live

[Anonymous No.15253623]

>>15252237
>all this doctor shit aint for me, that's why i became an anesthesiologist
wack af

[Anonymous No.15253907]

>>15253623
Gonna interconsult the general surgeon for the volcano blast coming from your asshole?
t. EM in full seethe

[Anonymous No.15254249]

>>15253907
>admitting to seethe
You're not very bright, are you? Makes sense why you're doing EM.

>hurrr durr switch could you connect me to the orthopedic reg about this patient with a stable fracture

[Anonymous No.15254272]

EM is the only specialty in medicine that gets shat on by every single specialty. even FM has more respect

[Anonymous No.15254287]

>>15252051
I hate being at the hospital so I'm just going into FM. Not american though, so you can make more as a FM than many surgical subspecialists here.

[Anonymous No.15254522]

>>15254249
T.=/= t.
Lurk moar newfag.

[Anonymous No.15254707]

What age did you all enter med school at? Did it take multiple attempts? Is it true that the nature of the bachelor's degree is irrelevant as long as the prerequisites are met? Do you have any advice?
t. unfulfilled 20 year old nursoid student

[Anonymous No.15254935]

>>15254272
It's not that bad
What do you call two orthos and a med student looking at an EKG? Double blind study with placebo

[Anonymous No.15255304]

>>15253094
>>15253043
Worked. I shouldn't have dissmissed parasites just because I was still gaining weight

[Anonymous No.15255684]

>>15254707
i entered at the age of 20 or 21, i cant remember, i got in on the first try, but i think i was lucky
my advice to you is that you go for it and that you arent old at all

[Anonymous No.15255733]

>>15255684
How did you apply for med school so young? I was under the impression that you needed a bachelor's of some sort first.

[Anonymous No.15255741]

>>15255733
Not him but you only need 90/120 credits to apply to medical school. You can apply to medical school after the third year.

[Anonymous No.15255743]

>>15255733
i am european so out of high school
3 years bachelor and 3 years graduate school or whatever would be called
6 years in total, then i had one year of 'working' as a doctor but it was very supervised
so ye

[Anonymous No.15255772]

>>15252051
if you love your job you wont work a single day in your life
t. some asian bloke maybe 3 millennia ago

[Anonymous No.15255774]

>>15255741
>>15255743
So what would be my ideal pathway? I have an Associate of Arts and one semester into a two year nursing science degree. Would I be better off just progressing the AA into a BA and then apply with that, or would it be more sensible to finish this nursing science degree since I'm already in the program, progress that into a BSN with online courses while working as an RN, then apply? Nursing school has me bored to tears and my grades are great, but I'm not genuinely, 100% sure that I can cut it in med school just because I'm doing well in other classes. Would it be wiser to get the RN/BSN first so that I'll have something to fall back on if med school isn't for me, or should I just go for the BA and drop out of the nursing program? I'd like to hear your input anons

[Anonymous No.15255778]

>>15254707
>got in at 22, american. took 1 gap year (my app cycle year), I'm a 2nd year now
>only 1 attempt but i only had 1 MD interview, 2 DO. honestly i applied late and my Extracurriculars and GPA were dogshit, my MCAT got me in. most of my classmates were more qualified than me but also came from california
>yeah. if you start undergrad fresh and you know you want to be a doctor for sure, pick the easiest major. i made the mistake of not knowing till later so being a lazy chem major hurt my app
>anki is the new meta for the mcat, just like it is for the step 1 and 2. almost all the high scorers use anki now, get familiar with it because your peers all use it in med school
>if you want to do surgery or a high paying IM subspecialty, don't go to DO school
>if you manage to get into an MD school that does NBME exams, go. those students study way less and have more time to pump research numbers for residency CV

[Anonymous No.15256043]

>Over a 56-month period (January 1976 to August 1980), we treated 605 patients for wounds, burns, and ulcers with granulated sugar and povidone-iodine. Rapid healing ensued, due to a reduction in bacterial contamination, rapid debridement of eschar, probable nourishment of surface cells, filling of defects with granulation tissue, and covering of granulation tissue with epithelium. The requirements for skin grafting and antibiotics were greatly reduced, as were hospital costs for wound, burn, and ulcer care.
https://europepmc.org/article/med/7302631

[Anonymous No.15257059]

>>15255774
>but I'm not genuinely, 100% sure that I can cut it in med school just because I'm doing well in other classes
Med school is challenging, but it's mostly about learning how to study and using efficient resources. Most of your study habits from undergrad won't work well anyway, it's just such a different environment. Luckily for you and everyone else, this problem has long since been solved (UFAPS+Anki).

>Would it be wiser to get the RN/BSN first so that I'll have something to fall back on if med school isn't for me, or should I just go for the BA and drop out of the nursing program?
That's a hard one. I guess it would depend on how much overlap there is between your nursing classes and med school prerequisites. The degree doesn't matter that much, just get the prereqs done however you can. I would recommend having a good answer for why you decided to switch career paths though, it'll probably come up in interviews and should be part of your personal statement.

[Anonymous No.15257699]

>>15255774
>but I'm not genuinely, 100% sure that I can cut it in med school just because I'm doing well in other classes

your nursing school probably has mandatory attendance. most med schools in the US now have optional attendance, it helps free up time to absorb the extra material

[Anonymous No.15257817]

>>15251334
sirs, hope you are keeping up with your foreskin quotas

[Anonymous No.15257960]

>>15254272
EM is high stress, high risk, long hours and few monis.
Trash spec. People that do that shit here do so in hopes they'll later do a critical care sub.

[Anonymous No.15258041]

Finishing medschool this year (Europe) and still feel like I don't know shit.
Don't know how I will manage residency.

[Anonymous No.15258337]

i read a thing about coconuts being a reasonable analog to human skulls, at least as far as blunt impacts with small objects.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25909916/

but, to how far does that extend? like, if i were to hit a coconut with a hammer, and it breaks, could i reasonably say that a human skull would probably break in a similar scenario? i can't find great information about this, because i don't think coconuts are used in studies as analogs for skulls. they'd just use some expensive bone substitute, or whatever.
is there something better than a coconut, which is reasonably accessible, that could serve as a stand-in for a skull in trauma analysis?

[Anonymous No.15259218]

>patient breathes his last breath

[Anonymous No.15259263]

>>15259218
Imagine not being a psycho and having it affect you

[Anonymous No.15259325]

>>15259218
Do people actually get sad when a patient bites the dust?
Especially since most of them are already hooked up onto a ventilator, central line etc. before actually passing away. At that point you can't even recognize them as human.

[Anonymous No.15259392]

>>15259325
>Do people actually get sad when a patient bites the dust?
I mean it's kind of sad to see anyone die but death is inevitable so it's not too sad.

[Anonymous No.15259878]

How would I go about triggering a significant release of dopamine without ingesting any calories and without negatively affecting productivity? Is nicotine the best way?

[Anonymous No.15260185]

gonna be an M1 student in July, anyone have tips?

[Anonymous No.15260227]

>>15259878
Methamphetamine.

[Anonymous No.15260240]

>>15259263
don’t care + didn’t ask + cry about it + who asked + stay mad + get real + L + bleed + mald seethe cope harder + dilate + incorrect + hoes mad + pound sand + basic skill issue + typo + ratio + ur dad left + you fell off + no u + the audacity + triggered + repelled + ur a minor + k. + any askers + get a life + ok and? + cringe + copium + go outside + touch grass + kick rocks + quote tweet + think again + not based + not funny didn’t laugh + social credits -999999 + get good + your’re a full time discord mod + you’re* + grammar issue + nerd + get clapped + kys + lorem ipsum dolor sit amet + go outside + bleach + lol + gay + retard + autistic + reported + ask deez + ez clap + straight cash + idgaf + ratio again + stay mad + read FAQ + youre lost + you “re” + stay pressed + reverse double take back + pedophile + cancelled + done for + don't give a damn + get a job + sus + baka + sussy baka + get blocked + mad free + freer than air + furry + rip bozo + you're a (insert stereotype) + slight_smile + aired + cringe again + Super Idol的笑容 + mad cuz bad + my pronouns are xe, xem & xyr + irrelevant + deal with it + screencapped your bio + karen/kyle + jealous + you're deaf + balls + i'll be right back + go ahead whine about it + 日本語がお上手ですね + get fucked + you can’t understand what the word intelligence means with your dumb ass + you have hair + queued + put some thought into what you're going to do with that + stfu + go to bed + yes, i'm taller than you + i think your joke is funny + i rejected your mother's advances + marooned + you can’t read + I win + final ratio+ backup ratio + yb better + you take fucking redpills and say that its and to "socialize" + you have no social credit + BING CHILLING + ask deez + ez clap + straight cash + ratio again + final ratio + stay mad + stay pressed + pedophile + cancelled + done for + mad free + freer than air + rip bozo + slight_smile + cringe again + mad cuz bad + lol + irrelevant

[Anonymous No.15260247]

>>15260227
no

[Anonymous No.15260270]

>>15259325
I have had an unfortunate fair share of transanesthetic deaths. It ain't cool but the majority of them don't make me lose my sleep. Very few selected cases make me feel regret, for either not acting fast enough, choosing the best treatment available etcetera.
Is there something beyond death? What makes a human? Are we deserving of the gift of life? Who am I to judge? What could've done better? Why me?
A lot of questions that no matter how many times I empty the whiskey glass, I never found any answer. And even worse, I end up with more questions.
Fuck the medical education honestly. We're taught to receive life, to cling into it and hold onto it with teeth and claws but never to process death. Or to celebrate it.

[Anonymous No.15260282]

>>15259325
>Do people actually get sad when a patient bites the dust?
I had a nurse literally scream at me that my uncle "needed rest" and that I shouldn't be bothering him when I tried to visit my dying uncle during his last hours, so... maybe? Or maybe it was just a case of holes being holes, idk.

[Anonymous No.15260423]

>>15260270
>Is there something beyond death? What makes a human? Are we deserving of the gift of life? Who am I to judge? What could've done better? Why me?
Who the fuck asks themselves these things just because some old guy kicked the bucket?
It's just some guy you don't even know about, do you read the obituary and then get all melancholic about it?
Not talking about some unfortunate cases like children or young adults dying, especially from genetical diseases that are not their fault. I could understand how this could make you feel a bit sad, but some 80-something guy dying from advanced heart failure?

[Anonymous No.15260465]

>>15260185
anki and don't go to class unless you have to

[Anonymous No.15260656]

>>15252051
>far from a workaholic
>neurosurgery
Like you said, it’s a cluster. If you do go this route successfully, you’ll likely be one of few neurosurgeons available unless you go metro city, and you know what that means… lots of call, lots of consults, lots of hoops on top of your clinic and elective procedures.
Better option is to go ortho and get the training and credentials to do some of the spinal procedures, there’s more of you and you’ll do elective neurosurgical procedures when you feel like it.

[Anonymous No.15260684]

>>15260423
I feel a moment of sadness, mostly just for the families, but it doesn't really stay with me. I'll be sad when my parents die, but I don't expect other people who don't know them to experience the same depth of emotion

[Anonymous No.15260762]

>>15253907
you are not a real well rounded doctor

[Anonymous No.15260768]

genetic diseases do fuck me up tho not even finna cap that shit fucked up cuh

[Anonymous No.15260777]

>>15260768
At least the liver genetic diseases are 'easy' to treat. All the gene therapies just wash up there no matter what you do, so.
For all the other organs, we have the dystopic future where AI and GWAS magic will be used to screen embryos for genetic diseases and other 'unwanted' genetic traits, and everyone will be doing acrobatic front-backflip somersaults to pretend that's not eugenism guys, just early screening. Among thousands of potential embryos. Automatically. To eliminate the bad ones.

[Anonymous No.15261131]

>>15260777
Melanine eugenics bad.
>>15260423
>Who the fuck asks themselves these things just because some old guy kicked the bucket?
Me. Cause I treat patients in their most vulnerable and critical time. I can see why it won't be a bother to the IM/EM chimps that endlessly fuck around the floor jerking electrolytes. From an anesthesia/surgery perspective is bothersome since picking the patient for a procedure is something that is done because we hope there will be a palpable change in the physical status.
We're in a business called giving patients a chance. Don't get me wrong doe, at the end of the day we're all conscious that craft will never equal to nature.

[Anonymous No.15261138]

>>15261131
>Melanine eugenics bad.
Yes, but actually yes.

[Anonymous No.15261148]

>>15261131
>Me. Cause I treat patients in their most vulnerable and critical time. I can see why it won't be a bother to the IM/EM chimps that endlessly fuck around the floor jerking electrolytes.
this is basically anesthesia, just correcting numbers in a knocked out patient
>From an anesthesia/surgery perspective is bothersome since picking the patient for a procedure is something that is done because we hope there will be a palpable change in the physical status.
>anesthesia/surgery
you taking credit for surgeries now?

[Anonymous No.15261253]

>>15261131
>From an anesthesia/surgery perspective is bothersome since picking the patient for a procedure is something that is done because we hope there will be a palpable change in the physical status
Lol, there are a shitload of surgeries done on geezers where everyone knows the chance of survival or actual return to a normal lifestyle is low. These are the patients that actually die, why would they affect you? When someone dies after or during an operation of a ruptured aortic dissection, does this really make you all sad and melancholic?
It's rare that some procedure on an otherwise healthy (young) patient ends up with him dying unless the surgeon fucks up big time.

[Anonymous No.15261280]

>>15261131
my mom has always been a hospice nurse, and she used to take me out on visits a lot when i was younger, so i've always had a weird relationship with death. hospice patients especially do not stick around long. all of them are facing death in the very near term.
i think it's very interesting how close hospice brushes up against euthanasia. like, grandpa has multiple organ failure, totally stopped all food/water, is only awake for moments of the day if you could even call that being awake.
and the family gradually goes from "do whatever you can to help pawpaw" to "i just don't want want him to suffer anymore".
it reaches a point where you just have to tell the family "if we increase his morphine dose, he's just going to quit breathing". but what are you going to do? make him squeeze out another day or two of "life"? for what?

[Anonymous No.15261300]

>>15261253
Not OP but would feel sympathy for the loss of someone’s parent / brother / sister / whatever family that’s involved.
Also… instant remorse for the impending 20/20 hindsight adverse event committee.

[Anonymous No.15261371]

Why do especially redditors always freak out when a doctor makes a mistake? They are some of the most incompetent people yet when you write a story about how you were - even slightly - mistreated by doctors you're guaranteed a million upvotes. It usually goes something like this: (r/AskDocs or something similar)
>OP: have this problem where my anus itches, seen lots of docs, no solution, they just told me to clean it
>100 upvotes: Actual nurse here, you were probably mistreated and misdiagnosed by doctors. We see this a lot but are never allowed to speak up about this. yada yada wrong advice about depression, ssri and trauma making your asshole itch.
or
>OP: I had to go to the hospital for knee pain and ever since having blood drawn by a male doctor I have severe anxiety. They also told me to lose weight.
>86 upvotes: I too have been struggling with depression and body shaming caused by the medical community, especially doctors. You should sue them for bringing up your weight. Frankly that's unprofessional since your knee is not related to your weight. I'd seriously consider telling your therapist about this verbal and mental violence and abuse you had to endure.
Of course I pulled these dialogues out of my ass, but you get the gist of it.

[Anonymous No.15261384]

>>15261371
>Reddit
>random sample of redditors guaranteed to be overweight, depressed or identify / self diagnosed as depressed, and likely -4 —> -1 standard deviations from IQ 100, and 99% group think by repeating news from MSM word for word as gospel.
Why do you think bub

[Anonymous No.15261398]

>>15261371
>Why do people freak out when a doctor makes a mistake?
They don't have Nobody's Perfect by Hannah Montana on repeat.

[Anonymous No.15261403]

>>15261384
>>15261398
>>15261371
It's about the completely irrational outrage paired with a combination of wanting to be investigative journalists that makes this type of content so popular on reddit

[Anonymous No.15261769]

>>15261371
The general population is jealous of doctors and think they're selfish people that don't pay enough attention to their issue and think nurses are the heroes that save patients from these evil doctors and actually diagnose the real issues. This is why when a nurse says "uhmmm aktuallyy this is very common where I work and I always diagnose it correctly" everyone stands up and claps.
Reality is that nurses are complete fucking brainlets that can't do a single differential diagnosis, but have their head up their ass thinking they're the lifesavers because they wipe the patients ass and apply the medication the doc prescribes.
Worst thing about this is that there are a lot of docs that suck the dick's of nurses for whatever reason

[Anonymous No.15261991]

>>15260270
wow, you really sound like a faggot

[Anonymous No.15262008]

>>15261769
>The general population is jealous of doctors
lol wut? No one wants to spend that much time in school nor do they want to spend all that time working.

[Anonymous No.15262090]

>>15261371
>Why do especially redditors always freak out when a doctor makes a mistake?
Probably because in America healthcare is insanely expensive and you don't get a refund for your doctor being a fuckup. There's a massive power and fairness imbalance so, naturally, that's what you get.

[Anonymous No.15262288]

>>15261371
Stop going to reddit. It's not good for your health.

[Anonymous No.15262682]

>>15262008
>lol wut? No one wants to spend that much time in school nor do they want to spend all that time working.
Everyone wants to become a doctor.

[Anonymous No.15262690]

>>15262682
Underpaid slave position, when you could be a tech worker, paid the same for dicking around all day browsing the internet, occasionally working an hour or two so the OKRs look like they're moving?
Being a doctor is volunteering for abuse. People want status, they don't actually want the abuse.

[Anonymous No.15262697]

>>15262690
>People want status
I don't get this at all. Do you guys just flaunt that you're a doctor or something? Why do you need status?

[Anonymous No.15262702]

>>15262697
I don't personally, but a lot of people just want to feel good about themselves, and get a large portion of their self-image from the approval of others.
One example is people who insist on being called Dr. X even when it's not at all relevant. If you took away the Dr. thing, a lot of people would flip out. Despite the fact it has no impact on care, it's purely a social status marker.

[Anonymous No.15262716]

>>15262702
>but a lot of people just want to feel good about themselves, and get a large portion of their self-image from the approval of others.
I mean it's just a title. Wanting the approval of others is normal I guess but I'd rather be known for something that isn't being a doctor.

[Anonymous No.15262738]

>have to do my dissertation
>it's some random bullshit topic that nobody will read anyways
>spend all day on 4chan instead

[Anonymous No.15262744]

>>15262690
Being a Doctor is a one way ticket to be one of the highest earners of society. In America the top spots of lifetime earnings are constantly filled by doctors. Especially in Europe, where you can't even make a lot of money in software.

[Anonymous No.15262751]

>>15262744
Yes, however the debt is also hilariously dystopian.
I'm in a first world country, I graduated with zero debt to get into a tech job.
Now I do OnlineMedEd and Anki flashcards in my free time so I can LARP as a med sutdent, but getting into crippling debt, so you can get a high paying job after 10+ years of stufy, and try to break even by the time you're in your 40s?
It's not bad, don't get me wrong. But it's been getting steadily worse.

[Anonymous No.15262762]

>>15262751
>Now I do OnlineMedEd and Anki flashcards in my free time so I can LARP as a med sutdent
lol, why do you do this? Were you thinking about pursuing medicine in the past?

[Anonymous No.15262774]

>>15262762
Part curiosity/innate passion, and partly because part of me turned into some kind of weird leftist hippie over time.
I like the idea of doing a job that has at least osme kind of positive impact, instead of generic adtech enriching some random Elon Musk-adjacent techbro CEO.

I definitely would have made the jump, if the working conditions weren't so bad. All I hear from doctors is most of them don't really recommend doing medicine, and a worrying fraction of people are so drained from the Covid grind they just want to give up, quit, and retire

[Anonymous No.15262776]

>>15262751
You graduate medicine without debt in Europe as well. Once you finish residency you make more than 100k, which almost nobody makes here.
The debt in America doesnt matter because you make way more money. You can pay it off in two years.

[Anonymous No.15262785]

>>15262776
Fair enough. Doctor is probably better guaranteed pay (especially given the big tech slowdown at the moment).
My lazy ADHD ass is happy with the peacefulness though. I just always enjoyed dicking around on the computer, and for some reason at some point they started paying me to do that. Haven't really worked a day in my life.. except for the occasional times I need to write a report on some thing or another.

I just wish I could go to med school and know I wouldn't later regret what I gave up.

[Anonymous No.15262917]

>>15262774
>weird leftist hippie
>incomplete self-actualization due to cowardice that has been rationalized with incorrect information about a field he has no exposure to
Why is this always the case with lefties? Maybe the state will help you not be a loser :^)

[Anonymous No.15263193]

Views on optometry vs ophthalmology?
I know ophthalmology makes a shit ton more money, but I don't think I'd have the drive to be competitive enough to be selected for ophthalmology, and I don't really care for performing eye surgeries or any other specialty. Is optometry a decent "cope"?

[Anonymous No.15263225]

>>15263193
From what I've heard, optometry is pretty comfy. Still requires a master's degree where I am though (Australia). I think there's an optometry poster on /med/. Wait until he hops on.

[Anonymous No.15263263]

Chud MD bros... We're winning

https://www.prospectivedoctor.com/which-medical-school-do-not-have-required-pre-requisite-courses/

Finally our hours of research and self study of the MCAT will get us into medical school. No more cuckblocking NOOOO YOU NEED TO PAY THE DEAN FOR MORE HECKIN UNDERGRAD COURSES.

By the way, I will take MT-2 and claim to be black in the application form.

[Anonymous No.15263393]

>>15262697
Me personally nah. Society is retarded. Why would I care about them?
Matter of fact it is a hindrance. Now all of a sudden I am not supposed to go to work on my longboard, wear industrial boots or black metal shirts.

[Anonymous No.15263440]

>>15262917
Yeah, we lefties lack the whole omniscience thing, it's very annoying.
Don't mind being corrected when I'm wrong though.

[Anonymous No.15263483]

Is there a way to learn how to use anki without watching a gaziilion videos made by some dud with the most boring voice imaginable?
whenever i try to use anki i forget about it for one day and then there are way too many cards to handle. Is it a meme? Should i only my own cards?
T. european med student

[Anonymous No.15263600]

>>15263440
Mate, you do ankis in your spare time and yet you "don't know" basic shit that everyone knows about medicine careers (i.e. it's a very economically viable career). Stop willfully being a retard.

>>15263393
>society is retarded
>I am not supposed to go to work on my longboard, wear industrial boots or black metal shirts
Just lol.

[Anonymous No.15263608]

>>15263600
>Mate, you do ankis in your spare time and yet you "don't know" basic shit that everyone knows about medicine careers (i.e. it's a very economically viable career). Stop willfully being a retard.
Reading comprehension, anon. I admitted just above that it was a very economically viable career. Probably even more than tech, in the current environment. I literally wrote that above, it's in my post.
What I'm criticizing is the abuse, horrible hours, and just demoralizing working conditions.
But hey, I'm told some of y'all get pizza parties and mandatory resiliency training modules. I guess it's all good, then.

Sorry if salary and working conditions aren't in my Anki flashcards. That's why I shitpost about it. If I'm wrong, that's fine, no harm done. It's just a shitpost, bro.

[Anonymous No.15263615]

>>15263608
>it's just a shitpost
>words words words
cope faggot

[Anonymous No.15263659]

Why do americans study from shit like Anki? Can't you just open a book, study from it and actually learn something instead of just parroting the same answers all the time?
t. European master race

[Anonymous No.15263677]

>>15263659
I'm also a eurochad, but those aren't exclusive. Books are good for learning the material, spaced repetition is excellent for keeping the memory strong and preventing it from fading.
If you use Anki to learn, you're using it wrong, because you won't understand anything by memorizing factoids. It's really good to solidify existing knowledge though.
People who don't use Anki just don't understand what Anki is for 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.15263952]

>>15263659
anki is not meant for learning, its only purpose is efficient memorization after you learn the topic

[Anonymous No.15263977]

>>15263659
Try studying for step 1, This exam is filled with useless information, you have to memorize a 800 page book to barely pass. Try learning all that without memory techniques. Also, americans get less time to study medicine - only 4 years
At the end of the day, all of medicine is just parroting facts you heard from somewhere, almost no understanding

[Anonymous No.15263978]

Hey /med/
what is your opinion on stretching, i've read some recent studies which suggest it may have 0 effects on the mechanical properties of muscle bone or tendon but rather just teach the brain to reach a certain treshold of movement without sending a pain signal.
To me it sounds like bullshit and that it needs further study, but i had an issue with tight hamstrings which i corrected with stretching and i just cant believe there's not a physical change when you do it. I literally couldnt stretch my leg past a certain point. As in, one person held me down, the other pushed my leg and it wouldnt go any further. After a year of stretching it was easy. I can't see any other expllanation that an actual change in either the muscle or the tendons. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.15264027]

Dopamine (the neurotransmitter) and dopamine (medication) aren't the same?
I was reading the dopamine (NT) Wikipedia article and it said that it's a vasodilator and inhibits noradrenaline release. But my school textbooks mentioned that dopamine increases blood pressure and it was mentioned in the adrenergic/catecholamine section. When you open the catecholamine Wikipedia page and click on Dopamine, it links to the NT dopamine.

Why is this so confusing to me, what am I missing?

[Anonymous No.15264056]

>>15264027
Afaik it does both. Low doses cause vasodilation, high doses cause vasoconstriction

[Anonymous No.15264303]

>>15264027
In 3rd world anesthesia we sometimes use dopamine to treat shock. Mainly associated with another aminergic drug.
It has been described to work in a spectrum, just like autismo. Goes like this:
Dopa effects: 1-3mcgkgmin.
Beta effects: 4-10mcgkgmin.
Alpha effects>10mcgkgmin.
Doe, as stated before, this works on a spectrum and is not set in stone.

[Anonymous No.15264309]

If a patient presents post gouty attack and has reduced mobility in the affected joint. Will the mobility in the joint eventually return ? Also what is it that is limiting mobility, painful sensation causing involuntary protective contraction ? Remaining urea crystals physically blocking the joint ? Something else ?

[Anonymous No.15264332]

>>15263978
To me, as a non-med guy but athletic person this sounds perfectly valid. If tissue grows in length to allow for greater mobility, this would mean a really flexible gymnast would, when completely relaxed, display absurdly 'loose' muscles. Also it would mean that for a complete contraction the muscle would have to do more work, as the distance travelled would be greater. Also do you not that when in a stretch, not limited by nerve or bone but truly muscle, your antagonist muscle will contract ? If your brain wouldn't cause that you could get in further, right ?
There is a short lived effect of muscles yielding when strained repeatedly. But this is not what is generally considered flexibility or mobility as it returns to normal after exercise. You can try it: If you lean into a stretch that you can quantify rather precisely, hold it, release and lean into it again, you'll be able to lean into it further than the first time. A few hours later this will be gone. What remains is the conditioning of your brain not to fire antagonistic muscles at joint angles that you have experienced as being safe.

[Anonymous No.15264514]

>>15263659
I'm a Eurochad as well. If you don't study with anki you are just a brainlet that ignores superior study methods because he is to lazy to invest the initial effort it takes to learn how to use them.
Supermemo, which anki is based on, is scientifically proven to be one of the best study tools.
I read books, make my own anki cards and then study them. I remember shit in detail that I studied this way 3 years ago, I can't remember anything from when I just "studied" textbooks.

[Anonymous No.15264534]

>>15263977
>Try studying for step 1, This exam is filled with useless information, you have to memorize a 800 page book to barely pass. Try learning all that without memory techniques. Also, americans get less time to study medicine - only 4 years
I love how Americans think this is somehow unique. In Spain you have the MIR that is harder than Step 1 and Step 2 and you have a 1500 page unofficial manual that you have to pretty much memorize and the state constantly cucks you by deliberately putting in questions that are not included in these manuals.
Oh and based on the score you get, you get a residency spot and there are only 8500 residency spots for 12500 applicants.

[Anonymous No.15264657]

Is there any way I can have AI or whatever take a pdf doc and have it make an anki deck out of it?
I have surgery state exam soon and I feel fucked, too little time to make myself and other made ones don’t cover my exam questions

[Anonymous No.15264673]

damn. I mean i always feared it but. All doctors me and my family go to are from top tier health insurance they are ultra serious people who get straight As while being charming. Astroanut-military kind of discipline and succes.
The notion that someone's life might be in the hand of someone whos ever, even once been a shitposter on 4chan is terryfing, but i have to be honest, i'm glad it's not me

[Anonymous No.15264699]

I received a prescription for Dynavel. Seems like a newer drug, what exactly is different about it from adderall?

[Anonymous No.15264703]

>>15264657
You wanna learn shit dont you ? So how about starting by making the fucking deck ? You'll be maybe 5% by that time. Thats somewhere to start.

[Anonymous No.15264781]

>>15264699
>Dynavel
Looks like it's just good ol' dextrospeed HCl (with some levo).
Adderall specifically is a weird mix of different speed salts.
It's going to have slight differences, but that doesn't really matter in the big picture of stimulant efficacy.

[Anonymous No.15264865]

>>15264056
>>15264303
Nice, good to know. I can work with that.

[Anonymous No.15264878]

I never understood how eating salt increases your blood pressure. Our books mentioned that Sodium is significantly contributing to the osmotic pressure. Okay, so more sodium equals more need for water equals more pressure. But isn't the kidney going to eliminate excess sodium pretty quickly? How can it have any long term effects if it gets filtered out reasonably quickly?

[Anonymous No.15265031]

>>15264878
intake of salt > elimination of salt

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>>15263978
The slow and methodical stretches would certainly affect your blood flow
(Not a doctor but I'm a neurophysiologist and spent a lot of time drinking tea in a lab with them)

[Anonymous No.15265164]

>>15263978
Everything in your body has a natural equilibrium. Your muscles and tendons set a new equilibrium based on physical stresses, meaning the length of muscle/tendon considered "normal" by the body can be altered by stretching. My headcannon is that the body knows how far it's muscles need to stretch based on normal use, so if you don't need to be flexible, it will limit your ability to do so in the form of tightening those muscles to limit risk of injury.

[Anonymous No.15265203]

>>15264673
>All doctors me and my family go to are from top tier health insurance they are ultra serious people who get straight As while being charming. Astroanut-military kind of discipline and succes.
Lmao they are probably druggy psychopaths that don't give 2 shits about you. Lots of people like this at my medical school doing very well grade wise.

[Anonymous No.15266180]

>be med studend
>mom asks me
>hey boy, my back keeps itching
>you study medicine, you should know
>two years later in dermatology class
>finally figure out its Notalgia paresthetica
>feels good

[Anonymous No.15266316]

>>15264534
>Oh and based on the score you get, you get a residency spot and there are only 8500 residency spots for 12500 applicants.

sounds like a you problem then

[Anonymous No.15266422]

>>15266316
You had one job, and it was to reply 'skill issue'

[Anonymous No.15266682]

>>15254707
LMAO americans have like 2:1 student per seat admission and retards still can't get in; I wonder how you faggots would do in a country with >5:1 every year;

[Anonymous No.15267370]

Is there a good website to discuss medicine and biotech without "Mark of the beast world economic forum 2030" schizos?

[Anonymous No.15267379]

>>15267370
If you find up, I beg you to post a fucking link.
There's r*****, but the discussions are never very deep, and you can't just start talking about any topic you like.
Mostly it's people bitching about the latest news, or about their bad day.

[Anonymous No.15267386]

>>15267379
R***** was legitimately fantastic in like 2010. It was mostly graduate students talking about space stuff and other science topics, things would get heated and nobody cared, it was a slightly more curated version of what /sci/ is at its best
I would say around 2012 it began a downward spiral that still hasn't stopped

[Anonymous No.15267422]

>>15266180
it could just also be dry skin in the winter, in fact it most likely is

[Anonymous No.15267726]

>statins
>ssri
>blood thinners
>anti psychotics
>ritalin
pharma did a number on us

[Anonymous No.15267750]

>>15267370
I've never found a community that was genuinely interested in science of any kind that isn't either (a) run by nannies who ban academic disagreement and are online because nobody can stand them, or (b) overrun by inept schizos whose idea of expertise is "I glossed over the title of a paper once". Every single time people claim they've found one like what you want it is inevitable that (a) is the case.

[Anonymous No.15267945]

>>15254707
Entering this fall at 21. One try, got quite a few interviews at state schools and T20s, one T10. I did engineering and had quite a few good stories from it that set me apart from the average lifescienceoid type that goes into med, including an internship. Also had an amazing MCAT that opened a lot of doors, my advice to you would be to knock that and grades out of the park so you can then let your personality shine through your essays. It might be an uphill battle for you though since nursing is medicine adjacent, so do a lot of work in answering the "Why medicine?" question.

[Anonymous No.15267972]

>>15262751
>Yes, however the debt is also hilariously dystopian.
Even without my parents paying anything for med school, I will come out with 80k-100k in debt (due to me not being retarded and getting a scholarship) which I will pay off in my first 6 months of attending salary. Codemonkeys have already started coping at the end of SVB being the end for their wage Ponzi scheme

[Anonymous No.15268062]

>>15267370
just mass migrate to an already existing dead image board and gatekeep it to keep the redditors out

[Anonymous No.15268175]

>>15267386
It was a good website when this dude was the one running things. Truly a revolutionary thinker, they had to suicide him because he was fighting to much against the interest of corporations. Reddit wasn't meant to become what is has.
Reddit in the very early days was a good website, then it turned bad and now it's complete dogshit where every post reads like Quora posts made by pajeets and the comments are just as awful.

[Anonymous No.15268178]

>>15268175
I don't think he was pushed to suicide, I think he was a good man who was unfortunately a ticking time bomb. There's no dispute that he did kill himself, and that usually has more to do with neurological issues than circumstance.

[Anonymous No.15268603]

>>15267972
That's fair. The SVB shitshow is hilarious, I left the whole startup deal at just the right time. Enjoying the fireworks from the safe BigCo™ desk. Fires that are made of dollar bills burn the prettiest.

[Anonymous No.15268686]

>>15267422
She's had it for three years, It's a darker spot, on her back, she's got bad posture, yeah - I've never seen a diagnosis match this well

[Anonymous No.15268954]

Are there are actually medical students here? I can't believe this hah

[Anonymous No.15269149]

>>15268954
I am a 5th year medical student in Europe, what is so hard to believe?

[Anonymous No.15269305]

fludiazepam

[Anonymous No.15269420]

this is the closest thread i could ask in, but does anyone here do EMS/paramedic? figuring out what i want to do with my life and sitting around isn't an option anymore and i'd like to help people. tell me about what you do

[Anonymous No.15269471]

>>15269420
get a job as a forklift operator, ambulance faggots only drive people to the hospital so they can be ripped off by doctors and possibly killed by accident in the process, forklifters do actual useful work, make more money and their training costs less

[Anonymous No.15269568]

>>15269471

[Anonymous No.15269603]

Is it fat, partoid gland inflamation or masseter/buccinator hypertrophy that makes this area look so big and thus makes my face (at least lower portion) so god damn chubby from the front no matter how much I weight? I have swollen submental lymph nodes (most likely from roundworm infection which I'm curremtly getting rid off) and bony upper face (forehead, temples, eye sockets, top of cheeks and zygomas), not much fat to speak off in neck, chin or middle of jaw

[Anonymous No.15269605]

>>15269420
its shit all around. highly stressful, shit pay, long hours. just become a nurse

[Anonymous No.15269787]

Is there any truth to what this anon is saying? How would I go about verifying such claims?

[Anonymous No.15269809]

>>15269787
Thanks, that low-quality bait just gave me thrombosis.

[Anonymous No.15269964]

>start a new block
>almost immediately realize I have an undiagnosed condition
fug

[Anonymous No.15269970]

>>15269787
>Immediately starts his post with the n-word
He is lying about everything and it is obvious lol. Or he got a PhD in Immunology from some bootleg online university.

[Anonymous No.15270021]

>taking STEP 1 in May
>forgotten literally all of neuro
Fuck me, I thought I would remember at least some of this bullshit

[Anonymous No.15270061]

>>15269787
Ah yes, the textbook function of the complement system, randomly traveling around the lymphatic system to kill T cells

[Anonymous No.15270292]

>>15269787
We know the delivery mechanism. Every single claim in that paragraph is completely wrong. Even the shit about how HLA antigens "target and destroy spike protein cell" is wrong. HLA antigens don't destroy anything. Ever. Reads like GPT3 word spaghetti honestly.

[Anonymous No.15270295]

>>15251955
Why couldn't you just screenshot sfw up close images from it during a pause? It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.15270461]

So how good or bad of an idea is it to do a Family Medicine residency to try and have my own clinic?
Germfag btw.