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15249648 No.15249648 [Reply] [Original]

Is it possible to construct an experiment for the purposes of separating NPCs and non-NPCs?

>> No.15249667

>>15249648
just talking to them seems to work fine for me

>> No.15249669
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>>15249648
Tfw insect morality identifier

>> No.15249695

I just mash the E or F key depending on the game.

>> No.15249728

>>15249648
Ask them a 1 political question and see if you are able to predict the possible other questions or not.

If you're able to predict them accurately, then you know they're a programmed NPC.

1) Should children be able to cut off their penis?
2) Is Biden the best?
3) Is Trump bad?
4) Abortion good?
5) Gas cars bad?
6) Save the planet?
7) Rich bad?
8) Communism good?
etc etc
If someone answers yes or no to all these unitarily, they're a bot. If they can answer 80% of the time, they're a bot. If they can do 40-60 or 50-50, they've got a brain.

>> No.15249750

>>15249728
You are a fucking idiot.

>> No.15249755

>>15249750
>t. answered yes to all questions

>> No.15249787
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>>15249728
Higher than the average Ivey league PhD candidate. I'll give you that.

>> No.15249802

>>15249728
Midwit detected. A literal bot like chatGPT has wishy washy "both perspectives have merit" answers. Your idea of anti-NPC is best matched by a literal nonhuman.

>> No.15249823

>>15249728
9) Is the government good?
10) Should we have a president?
11) Who is our president?
12) Do you like the media?
13) What are the best news channels?
14) What is politics?
15) Who is the king of the world?
16) Should I vote?

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>>15249648
I make fart noises really loudly with my mouth and if people don’t laugh I know they are NPC bots.

>> No.15249849

>>15249648
Just ask a political question, if they disagree with your opinion, you know they aren't human. Being hysterically obsessed with politics in general is a sign of thinking clearly and independently, and being comfortable in one's own skin. >>15249728 could never be a bot.

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>>15249648
The theory of NPC posits that some individuals lack true consciousness and instead behave as automated entities. To test this theory, one could design an experiment to measure the level of consciousness in individuals and compare it to a predetermined threshold. Here is a possible experiment design:

Define the criteria for measuring consciousness: This could be done by selecting a set of indicators that are commonly associated with consciousness, such as self-awareness, the ability to reflect on one's own experiences, and a sense of agency.

Recruit participants: The study would require a sample of individuals to be assessed. The sample should be large enough to ensure statistical validity.

Conduct assessments: The participants would undergo a series of assessments designed to measure their level of consciousness, using the criteria established in step one. The assessments could include self-report questionnaires, interviews, and behavioral tasks.

Establish a threshold: Based on the results of the assessments, a threshold would be set for the level of consciousness required to be considered fully conscious.

Analyze the results: The data would be analyzed to determine the percentage of participants who met the threshold for full consciousness. If the percentage was lower than expected, it could suggest that some individuals are NPCs.

Follow-up testing: In order to confirm the results, a follow-up test could be conducted with a different sample of individuals using the same criteria and threshold.

Overall, this experiment could help shed light on the NPC theory by providing empirical evidence for or against the idea that some individuals lack true consciousness. However, it is important to note that the concept of consciousness is complex and multifaceted, and any experiment to measure it would have limitations and potential sources of bias.

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>>15249648
Ask them what an NPC is, it'll be obvious after that

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>>15249728
>6) Save the planet?

do u propose to let it burn?

>> No.15249884

The pineal gland was known by the ancients as the "third eye". The pineal gland actually has photoreceptive cells like your eyes. The pineal gland gets calcified by fluoride (like they put in city water). NPCs supposedly have that thing where you can't "see" things in your head.

Big hmm.

>> No.15249885

>>15249876
I'm not narcissistic enough to presume that my actions have any effect on the planet.

>> No.15249887

>>15249856
AI generated post and its obvious. this shit has a long way to go.

>> No.15249892

>>15249885
Why the sudden false modesty by people who otherwise celebrate man's amazing abilities, only when it comes to this question? Humans can influence their ecosystem even on a global scale quite thoroughly and quickly, in many ways.

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>>15249728
>1) Should children be able to cut off their penis?
No.
>2) Is Biden the best?
No.
>3) Is Trump bad?
Yes and no.
>4) Abortion good?
Mostly no.
>5) Gas cars bad?
No.
>6) Save the planet?
From what? The cars?
>7) Rich bad?
No.
>8) Communism good?
Nope.
>9) Is the government good?
Necessary but dangerous.
>10) Should we have a president?
Who is "we?"
>11) Who is our president?
American? Joe Biden as per traditional gatekeepers who had a meltdown from TDS.
>12) Do you like the media?
No.
>13) What are the best news channels?
All of them.
>14) What is politics?
Freedom to do what they tell you.
>15) Who is the king of the world?
Pic-related.
>16) Should I vote?
Maybe (you should mostly focus on local elections) and if you wear a sticker or post about it on social media you're a faggot.

How did I do?

>> No.15249896

>>15249648
I think it might be partly a state of mind as it seems to be somewhat independent of intelligence
is conformity genetic? how much is it genetic

>> No.15249904
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>>15249728
1. No
2. Uhhhh no
3. He's a bad boy
4. Good for what? It's bad but so is making a useless babby
5. Yes, but EVs are worse
6. You want me to do it? I don't know where to start
7. Richard? That rich guy down the street? Rich desserts? ALL RICH PEOPLE BAD?! SAVE ME G-MAN
8. Looks comfy in Vietnam and Cuba not gonna lie. China and North Korea not so much... But which ones are le real gommunism?

>> No.15249905

>>15249648
Not with a double slit experiment or any known physics experiment

>> No.15249907

>>15249905
why? consciousness is physical.

>> No.15249912

>>15249907
It might be, but there's no known physics experiment which demonstrates that or could be used to test for the presence of consciousness

>> No.15249914

>>15249912
how can you know that?

>> No.15249917

>>15249728
Most of these are obviously shit questions that are designed to fill people with emotions. Why not ask deeper questions that don't show up in headlines?
If they can't formulate an answer then they are an NPC.

>> No.15249936

>>15249914
Because I'm familiar with actual physics experiments. Note that I said
>known
experiments.

>> No.15249939

>>15249917
NPCs are definitionally people who believe current thing and consume product based on marketing messages. The best way to uncover one is to ask them about the things they have programming on.

>> No.15249948

>>15249936
maybe theres something you didnt think about or that you dont know

>> No.15249952

>>15249948
I doubt it. It's not remotely plausible within the realms of any current experimental setup. I think that observing some kind of hypothetical physical mechanism for consciousness would require an experiment that includes measurement/control of either/both of
>1. Macroscopic quantum coherence in a complex structure like a brain
or
>2. New particles/fields/???

>> No.15249956

>>15249952
>instantly overreduces consciousness from "physical" to quantum something
wow you really are a physicist. quantum <whatever> is the new god of the gaps btw, no offense.

>> No.15249964

>>15249956
I didn't say that in any way whatsoever my good faggot. I just said it's one of the only poissible directions from current experiments to some kind of "physical consciousness". Now, tell me what you actually think so I can laugh at you.

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>>15249648
>>15249728
>>15249917

Ask them if "evil" exists. If they say no or something along the lines of "define evil", "what do you mean by "evil"?" or try to excuse evil as simply ignorance/stupidity then you're dealing with a grade A NPC.

>> No.15249974

>>15249964
thats the difference between you and me. we both dont know but I am not afraid to admit it.

>> No.15249978

>>15249974
I do admit it. There's no explanation or mechanism of consciousness in current physics, which is the entire point of my posts. The difference between you and me is that I am willing to share what I think, while you LARP

>> No.15249980

>>15249648
Do they use the word "chud" and screech about /pol/? NPC

Are they vaxxed and boosted? NPC

Do they think the election wasn't rigged? NPC

Do they call Jan 6 an "insurrection?" NPC

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>>15249648
Andrés Gómez Emilsson thinks it might be possible to detect consciousness using things like phenomenal puzzles and mindmelding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gvwhQMKvro

>> No.15249992

>>15249648
Ask what people think of Hellie's vertiginous question. If they say something like "the question is meaningless" or "because you wouldn't be you if you were someone else", they are an NPC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question

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>>15249648
Consciousness denialism is a telltale sign of being an NPC. Daniel Dennett is almost certainly an NPC.

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>>15249648
https://nintil.com/p-zombies-are-still-undead

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>>15249648
Retard here but I’ll share my insane take on consciousness. It’s something to do with fungus that grows in us. I think our chimp brains got hijacked by some network of fungus and that’s what allows some to be conscious while others are “NPCs” (basically just human animals with no imagination. The fungus IS “you” or the thing that consciously observes “you”. Non-NPCs are actually as natural of human as you can be, we are the ones that are “infected”.

>> No.15250004

>>15249991
I subbed to this guy's channel after watching a few vids you linked here over the years. He knows his stuff and i enjoy his gentle and inquisitive nature. This has shown me that isn't a worthless board full of mentally retarded psueds and hacks all the time. You can occasionally find something here that isn't the stupidest thing you have ever witnessed

>> No.15250008

>>15249999
Oh, like that insanely popular tv show that's on right now where a fungus turns people into zombies? Very original, anon.

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>>15249994
mommy

>> No.15250016

>>15250008
I wouldn’t know, I don’t watch tv. It’s mostly for retards that struggle to keep their brain active for a full day so they need to sit and “unwind” after a long day of doing mindless drone work.

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>>15250016
and what kind of person is virtue signalling on 4channel for?

>> No.15250035

>>15250016
The fact that you don't even know where you picked up the idea makes it even worse.

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>>15250004

>> No.15250135

>>15249802
You have never tried ChatGPT because that's completely wrong.

>> No.15250258

>>15249648
Yes. The most common quality of Non-NPCs is necessarily that they are adamant to ensure that they are and remain non NPCs.
They do this by negation: calling everyone else an NPC means the accused has to prove they aren't an NPC to the accuser. The only truly effective way to do this is to accuse the accuser of being an NPC. Thus, the people who are unable to compete - the people who aren't willing to deny that they are NPCs, and who aren't granted Non-NPCdom by the accuser, are NPCs.

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>>15249648
>Is it possible to construct an experiment for the purposes of separating NPCs and non-NPCs?
It is and they did. How many jabs?

>> No.15250375

>>15249894
>>15249904
NPCs detected.

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>>15250375
you got me

>> No.15250443

>>15249648
Give them a questionnaire about politics, history, ethics, random opinions, etc., and read what they answered to the first question. If you can predict what they answered to all the follow-up questions without cheating, you're dealing with an NPC. If you can accurately predict what they answered without even reading the first answer, you're dealing with a redditor.

>> No.15250447

>>15250443
Did you get vaccinated?
Do you believe in climate change?
Did 6 million jews die in the holocaust?
Are trans women real women?
Do you support gay marriage?
Is diversity our strength?

:^)

>> No.15250464

>>15250447
Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

>> No.15250475

>>15249992
It's one thing to misunderstand it because it's hard to put into words, but for some reason some people get irreasonably angry at this. Like that there is no magical God randomly assigning souls from a basket to newborns, I am who I am because my parents got together and I have their genetics... that has nothing to do with the question at all, that just explains my genetics.
>>15249993
I was astounded when I read Dennett's view on the Mary's Room thought experiment, insisting that somehow Mary could understand what red is from her encyclopedic knowledge about wavelengths.

>> No.15250483

>>15250464
Your answers?

>> No.15250484

>>15249992
>Hellie's vertiginous question
Qualialess NPC detected. Imagine using such cringe terminology to refer to the musings of the average 7 years old.

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15250494

>>15250483
No
Yes
No
No
No
No

>> No.15250506

>>15250494
You're an NPC by your own standards. I predicted 5/6 of your answers and the one I failed to predict you took the decidably NPC stance, anyway. lol

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15250517

>>15250506
>You're an NPC by your own standards.
I didn't. And that made you very mad.

>> No.15250526

>>15250517
Didn't what? You're losing your mind with rage.

>> No.15250546

>>15250526
Inability to parse text with mistakes is a huge NPC flag. Here are your answers, by the way:
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes

>> No.15250548

>>15250546
Why are you losing your mind with rage? You told me NPCs would answer such questions predictably. You answered them very predictably. Therefore you are an NPC.

>> No.15250552

>>15250548
You didn't predict them, though. And I predicted yours perfectly without you even answering the first one. I think it's pretty obvious who the NPC here is. My test works flawlessly.

Also, say something funnier in the next message or you won't get another reply. Banter is fun. Shit-flinging is for NPCs.

>> No.15250554

>>15249648
don't disparage the NPC. they are there to be made use of by real humans. I suggest making batteries.
https://www.brighteon.com/edbfb74d-efeb-4d48-9dc5-e21609b7399a

>> No.15250555

>>15250552
>You didn't predict them
I predicted all but 1. That's pretty predictable.

>> No.15250556

>>15249728
Me (145 sd 15, proctored WAIS-IV checked at 20):

1. No
2. No
3. Could be, but probably not
4. No (depends on race and I can make an exception for crippled kiddos and raped cunny)
5. Yes (not because of emissions, but because drivers/chauffeurs are usually idiots; BIKE MASTERRACE)
6. Yes (LOL Imagine not wanting to rid the planet of Jews and microplastics)
7. Yes (not by some libtarded commietarded fantasy, most rich ppl are boomer pedophiles, Jewish pedophiles, boomer Jewish pedophiles, and trust fund babies. Liquidation awaits them)
8. No (as in, [math] \textit{commies get the rope} [/math])

I'm waiting for that writing-to-iq retarded nigger dog to scan me. Where do I stand?

>> No.15250558

>>15250555
Yes, you wouldn't have failed if you had succeeded.

>> No.15250563
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>>15250558
>uhhh sweaty??!?!
>i'm not predictable!!
>you only managed to predict 85% of my opinions!!!
The absolute desperation is palpable.

>> No.15250567

>>15250563
Good god. Are you actually shaking with rage right now? I guess I should have known just how big of an NPC you were when you put the smiley at the end of your message thinking you had some huge Gotcha. And now you just keep on kvetching... My predictions were 100 % correct, weren't they? That made you this mad?

But yeah, I'll be going now. Interacting with retarded shit-flingers is just not fun.

>> No.15250570

>>15250567
> I should have known just how big of an NPC you were
Then how come you got most of your predictions wrong? I passed your test. Meanwhile you borderline failed it. lol

>> No.15250578

Start a political argument with them on a "current thing." Whichever side of the argument they are on, ask them if they can summarize and steel-man the opposing argument. If they fail and just resort to a cheap caricature laden with fallacies, they are an NPC.

>> No.15250579

>>15250578
>indulging the ZOG dichotomy
>steelmanning a ZOG narrative
You are one of the dumbest bots ITT.

>> No.15250582

>>15249648
Here's a flawless NPC test:
>do they seriously talk about politics? if yes go to number 1, else go to number 2
1) they are an NPC
2) they are not an NPC

>> No.15250583

>>15249750
Lol this made my morning. Faggot

>> No.15250587

>>15250579
Yes, if you can't put an opposing argument in the best possible light, even if that interpretation is not true, you are an NPC. Most leftists completely lack the ability to understand the conservative perspective, and they make fools of themselves trying. This makes sense, as most NPCs are in the general leftist/neolib camp. However, there are also quite a few right-wing NPCs who are equally lacking in introspection. I appreciate that you showed up here to provide an example of the latter.

>> No.15250588

>>15250582
>flawless
Not really because you're still an NPC.

>> No.15250594

>>15250587
>ZOG drone keeps hammering the preprogrammed ZOG dichotomy
It's especially funny how this bot keeps talking about some "opposite side" even after having it rubbed in his face once. Either way, defending a ZOG narrative, under any pretext, is something only an NPC would indulge in. You are the very definition of a bot.

>> No.15250602

>>15250594
>Predictable 80IQ response. Every 10th word is ZOG
Do you even have an inner monologue?

>> No.15250607

>>15250602
You're losing your mind with rage but my point still stands: the very fact that you talk about "the other side", demonstrating that you take the ZOG dichotomy for granted and file everyone as some "side" of it, already seals the deal wrt. your NPCdom. You will not be able to challenge this point in any way.

>> No.15250609

>>15250578
>If they fail and just resort to a cheap caricature laden with fallacies, they are an NPC.
Yeah, NPCs don't argue against you, they argue against a strawman that they have constructed in their reddit circle jerks. You say that you believe in A, and they respond with "Ha! You're a hypocrite, since you also believe in B!"

>> No.15250610

>>15250587
>Muh xyz from opposite camp abc is an NPC, but not me
This applies to all NPCs, the lack the necessary introspection to ask themselves in they're the NPC

>> No.15250617

>>15250607
>Do you even have an inner monologue?
Lol, that's a no. Thanks for confirming. Also you're really letting the brotherhood down by only using the word "ZOG" once in that post. Please try again

>> No.15250627

>>15250617
>Whichever side of the argument they are on, ask them if they can summarize and steel-man the opposing argument
What did you mean by this? Why are there two sides and why should you concern yourself with the "current thing" and take a side on it? :^)

>> No.15250629

>>15249648
If you enjoy most of the inorganic content on the front page of reddit, then you're a primary character.

>> No.15250642

>>15250627
Most political questions naturally lend themselves to two default opposing views (a binary if you will). 99% of people will be aware of "current thing" topics, which means you are likely to get a useful response, and NPCs tend to have the most aggressive binary opinions about "current thing" topics, which means they will fail the test most vigorously.

Additionally, third-category answers, like "I don't keep up with that bullshit; I have real things to worry about" or "I think both sides are wrong, and here's why," are also indicative of low-NPC scores.

>> No.15250644

>>15250642
(low-NPC scores meaning not likely to be an NPC)

>> No.15250654

>>15250642
>Most political questions naturally lend themselves to two default opposing views
Now why would that be the case? Doesn't it strike you as a bit odd? :^)

>99% of people will be aware of "current thing" topics, which means you are likely to get a useful response
Why would someone who is not an NPC concern themselves with the current thing, analyze it, keep track of the arguments for each side of some artificial dichotomy on it, etc.?

>> No.15250678

>>15250654
>Now why would that be the case? Doesn't it strike you as a bit odd?
Should kids be able to chop off their genitals?
Should the government able to mandate yearly mRNA spike protein injections?
Should 1st graders be taught about homosexual sex acts?
Should homeschooling be banned?
Should our income taxes be increased?
Should healthcare be run by the government?
Should nitrogen fertilizers be banned?

Anyone who is not an NPC should be able to realize how ridiculous and self-evident your question is.

>Why would someone who is not an NPC concern themselves with the current thing
Because someone who is not an NPC will understand that if the NPCs are left unchecked, they will be able to impact your life in a drastic and negative way.

Lol, it is a bit pathetic how desperate you are to sound profound and enlightened, when your rhetorical questions are dripping with the most vacuous and superficial logic in this thread.

>> No.15250685

>>15250678
>Anyone who is not an NPC should be able to realize how ridiculous and self-evident your question is.
Then how come you can't answer it concretely?

>they will be able to impact your life in a drastic and negative way.
And indulging the current thing and its dichotomy changes this how?

>> No.15250696

>>15250685
shut up, bigot. you VILL participate in the endless circus show of debating "should our rulers be allowed to do X to us?"

>> No.15250706

>>15250678
>Should kids be able to chop off their genitals?
>Should the government able to mandate yearly mRNA spike protein injections?
>Should 1st graders be taught about homosexual sex acts?
>Should homeschooling be banned?
>Should our income taxes be increased?
>Should healthcare be run by the government?
>Should nitrogen fertilizers be banned?
does it ever occur to a retard like you that these totally "natural" dichotomies are only conceivable in the context of a very specific kind of braindamaged society? most of these sound like something out of a fever dream to most people in the world, not like valid points of debate. clowns like you trying to "steel-man" the proposition that little Timmy is a girl, and may need to have his penis amputated, would have been forcibly shoved into a looney bin where they could discuss it every day with their partners on the "opposite side"

>> No.15250713

>>15250685
>Then how come you can't answer it concretely?
You can't get more concrete than 7 direct examples. Fundamentally, any sufficiently narrow question on how a particular facet of society should be run will have a simple answer (yes or no).

>And indulging the current thing and its dichotomy changes this how?
Lol, do I really need to spell this first grade shit out for you? NPCs are defined by an inability to think beyond their programming. They formulate their worldviews in response to social shaming and validation alone. The current state of society was built on this fact by powerful interests who spent decades infiltrating all our major institutions until they controlled the levers of culture unopposed.

In response to this, you can either bend over and accept slavery like a retarded coward, or you use human psychology to your own advantage and start the long process of reversing the damage.

>> No.15250717

>>15250706
>only conceivable in the context of a very specific kind of braindamaged society
And yet, real government policies are being not only conceived, but enacted in every western government on the planet. Somehow, 70% of zoomers and younger millennials are fully on board with all of them. Somehow, your chad strategy of "just ignore it bro, they're just crazy bro. it'll all go away if you just don't indulge them" has done nothing but fail for the last 60 years.

>would have been forcibly shoved into a looney bin
Well, unless you can fix the NPC problem, you will be committed to the looney bin long before any of them are. Count on it.

>> No.15250719

>>15250713
>any sufficiently narrow question on how a particular facet of society should be run will have a simple answer
How come your entire politics consists of arguing (impotently) about "sufficienty narrow questions" concerning your government taking or not taking some actions that never even occurred to you before they became the Current Thing?

>use human psychology to your own advantage and start the long process of reversing the damage.
How does indulging the Current Thing "reverse" the damage?

>> No.15250721

>>15250717
>his point
>...
>...
>...
>...
>...
>your head
You truly are on the margins of sentience. I don't consider you to be human.

>> No.15250730

>>15250719
Lol, I've seen golden retrievers with a greater capacity for inference and comprehension. This 6th grade attempt at the Socratic method is growing tiresome. Try to see if you can extrapolate my answers to those questions. Otherwise, start posting direct responses to my points in the form of factual statements or fuck off.

>> No.15250731

>>15250730
How come your entire politics consists of arguing (impotently) about "sufficienty narrow questions" concerning your government taking or not taking some actions that never even occurred to you before they became the Current Thing? How come you never get to discuss anything except "sufficiently narrow questions" stemming from someone else's agenda? :^)

>> No.15250739

>>15250731
don't bother with this animal. it won't grasp how it's being coralled down some binary path while its rulers engineer the entire context, no matter how many times you rub its nose in this fact

>> No.15250755

>>15250721
>Irrelevant drivel, blah blah
Lol, let me waste more of my time here on you losers (and I mean that in the literal sense. You will lose everything, because you have the tactical sense of an ostrich).

Here is what he said
>these totally "natural" dichotomies are only conceivable in the context of a very specific kind of braindamaged society?
Already there is a contradiction. Once the society is brain-damaged, the dichotomies become very natural. The brain damage itself had unnatural causes, but that is totally irrelevant once it already exists.

The only question that matters is how do we undo the "brain damage"? For that question we need to know a) who is brain damaged, b) how did they get that way, c) how can we reverse it? These are the questions you retards keep ignoring. All your NPC minds can conceive of is "ooga booga me right, me right. No more thought needed. Me right. Why you waste time indulging question, just know that me right"

>> No.15250757

>>15250739
>ooga booga me right, me right. No more thought needed. Me right. Why you waste time indulging question, just know that me right
Lol, like fucking clockwork

>> No.15250758

>>15250739
I'm not bothering with him in particular. He's brainwashed beyond help. I just think it's worth highlighting in general.

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>>15250730
say, why don't you steel-man his position instead of continually screeching that his questions are unworthy of consideration? you said you should be able to do it if you're not an NPC

>> No.15250766

>>15250731
>entire politics consists of arguing
Please demonstrate the basis for this implicit conclusion. I wonder why it is that you are physically unable to properly frame my arguments without resorting to a caricature, laden with fallacies :^)

>that never even occurred to you before they became the Current Thing
This part too. I guess it would make sense for your NPC mind to project this idea. You have shown an inability to extrapolate literally anything, so you can't even conceive of more capable people who could foresee the current cycles of the narrative a decade ago.

>> No.15250771

>>15250766
>demonstrate the basis for this implicit conclusion
>>15250642
>Most political questions naturally lend themselves to two default opposing views (a binary if you will)

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>>15250766
doesn't look like a steelman of his position to me

>> No.15250780

>>15250764
>>15250778
To be fair, he only said you should steel-man the other side of the Current Thing dichotomy. He never said you should steel-man people who question his investment and validation of it. Am I steel-manning him well? :^)

>> No.15250783

>>15250764
His position is that the vast majority of political topics are inorganic narratives engineered to keep the public within a very narrow frame of acceptable discourse. By engaging in the narrative at all, on either side, you are helping them manufacture a dichotomy that should not exist in the first place. Thus, you are unwittingly contributing to the intended shift of the Overton Window.

What this perspective misses is the fact that your non-participation will not slow down their goals by even 1 second. The news media will report it, the education system will teach it, the next generation will believe it, the history books will write it, and we will continue to move in the exact direction they want us to, until we live in another North Korea. However, they didn't obtain this power through military conquest; they did it through infiltration and relentless social engineering. The easiest way out is to do the same thing in reverse.

>> No.15250786

>>15250771
Good first step, now demonstrate how
>Most political questions naturally lend themselves to two default opposing views (a binary if you will)
is equivalent to "my entire politics."

>> No.15250787

>>15250783
>His position is that the vast majority of political topics are inorganic narratives engineered to keep the public within a very narrow frame of acceptable discourse.
is that wrong?

>By engaging in the narrative at all, on either side, you are helping them manufacture a dichotomy that should not exist in the first place. Thus, you are unwittingly contributing to the intended shift of the Overton Window.
is that wrong? no consequentialist reasoning. just tell me if he's wrong

>> No.15250790

>>15250786
>ummm sweaty, i said "most", not "all"
tsk-tsk. doesn't look like a steel-man to me

>> No.15250792

>>15250790
>1st grade comprehension again.
Don't know what I expected

>> No.15250796

>>15250780
kek'd. imagine getting eviscerated like this

>> No.15250801

>>15250787
The first point is basically correct. The second point is not, for the reasons laid out in the second paragraph. "Helping" and "contributing" are intrinsically consequentialist terms.

"Not playing" is not a winning move. It isn't a move at all. The winning move is making the entire country realize that the dichotomy is so ridiculous that the people who created it must be fucking you. The way to ensure that that never happens is to listen to the retards I've been arguing with.

>> No.15250804

>>15250801
>The second point is not
so by engaging in a dichotomy intentionally constructed for you to engage in, you are not validating it and not helping the people who constructed it?

>> No.15250805

The mistake virtually everyone makes is that they define an NPC by what they believe rather than how they arrived at their beliefs in the first place.
Even people who hold opinions that aren't mainstream probably got them because a social media algorithm caused it.

>> No.15250809

>>15250805
It doesn't matter how you claim to have arrived at getting your 5th jab. You are an NPC no matter how you rationalize it.

>> No.15250817

>>15250804
This retard's problem is that he only thinks in dichotomies, so he thinks it's a choice between indulging the dichotomy of the current thing or doing nothing and letting it slide. You can't help "people" like this.

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>>15250801
>The winning move is making the entire country realize that the dichotomy is so ridiculous that the people who created it must be fucking you.
which you do by picking a side in this dichotomy and steel-manning the other side of it. that proves to everyone that the dichotomy is ridiculous

>> No.15250832

>>15249728
Add another one: Should it be legal for parents to cut their children's genitals?

>> No.15250837

>>15249648
No, but a semi-decent heuristic is to check whether they have to follow some scripted sequence to determine whom they are allowed to call an NPC.

>> No.15250839

>>15250832
Why do americans love child genital mutilation so much? 70% of americans mutilate their children's genitals, and all they ever talk about is genital mutilation. What a sick society.

>> No.15250840

>>15250839
excluding semites, their love for genital mutilation is only rivaled by europeans who import child genital mutilation culture and actively ensure that it will become the dominant culture for their descendants to live under

>> No.15250841

>>15250839
Women overwhelmingly prefer circumcised cocks.

>> No.15250844

Why is this board obsessed with NPCs?

>> No.15250850

>>15250809
You seem to have been agitated by my post in particular. How often are you on Twitter?

>> No.15250864

>>15250850
You seem to have been agitated by my post, as evidenced by your immediate descent into personal attacks and your inability to challenge what I wrote.

>> No.15250870

>>15250841
Goblinas overwhelmingly prefer black cocks so your point is moot. As for the rest of the non-semite world and normal women -- they find it barbaric.

>> No.15250883

>>15250826
Lol, it's like you're in a competition to out-embarrass yourself. If you can't express the rationalizations happening in your opponents' minds, you will never convince anyone of anything, and you likely don't understand much yourself. Yes, people can happen to hold the correct position on something and still be NPCs.
>>15250804
Lol, you're even worse. You're basically a chatbot designed to search for key words, respond to those key words with questions, and then ignore everything else, including the answers to those very questions.

>> No.15250888

>>15249648
What do you think the clotshots were for OP?

>> No.15250889

>>15250883
i'm sill waiting for you to explain how picking a side in a dichotomy, and then doing your best to validate the other side of it, convinces everyone that the dichotomy is ridiculous

>> No.15250892

>>15250883
Doesn't look like a steel-man to me. Try again.

>> No.15250895

>>15249728
>1) Should children be able to cut off their penis?
Like trannies? No

>2) Is Biden the best?
More like the beast

>3) Is Trump bad?
So so

>4) Abortion good?
What race? If black, yes.

>5) Gas cars bad?
No, roal coal.

>6) Save the planet?
From niggers and pollution.

>7) Rich bad?
Depends.

>8) Communism good?
No.

>> No.15250900

>>15250864
Maybe provide something with substance then.

>> No.15250904

>>15250900
Is someone who got the 5th jab an NPC?

>> No.15250910

>>15250892
Hey friend, you appear to have limited capacity for reading comprehension, so I will help you. My criterion was the ability to steel-man an opposing argument, not the obligation to do so in every response. I realize the difference between those two is very subtle, probably bordering on a 7th grade reading level, so maybe ask your mom to explain it to you. I offered the steel-man all the way back here,
>>15250783
while your tag team of knuckledraggers have failed to reciprocate. Anyone with an IQ over 115 reading this thread can clearly see who the NPCs are here.

>> No.15250913

>>15250910
>My criterion was the ability to steel-man an opposing argument
Demonstrate that ability. It seems very limited so far.

>> No.15250922

>>15250910
>I offered the steel-man all the way back here,
you pretty much just repeated what he said and then utterly failed to prove it wrong. steel-man, indeed. lol

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15250929

>>15250678
>Should 1st graders be taught about homosexual sex acts?
While you and your equal opposites hotly debate whether or not faggotry should be part of Current Year's """government education""" agenda, tacitly accepting a centralized, government-controlled child indoctrination practice as an unquestionable matter of fact, the thinking segment of the population is organizing and promoting alternatives to """government education""". That's the difference between NPCs (you) and players.

>> No.15250933

>>15249992
Dualism is fake and gay.
Magick isn't real.
Go get boosted.

>> No.15250934

>>15250929
Shut up, retard. I'm just about to win the debate with facts and logic and save our children!

>> No.15250937

>>15250904
Even one is objective proof.
"Not enough information to decide" for the first isn't an excuse, since the default stance shouldn't be to inject yourself, but to do nothing and wait and see.

Imagine feeling FOMO for literal poison.

>> No.15250939

>>15250937
But you told me you can't determine if someone is an NPC without listening and seriously considering their justifications first.

>> No.15250944

>>15250937
Is someone who repeatedly gets himself jabbed with the intent to commit suicide an NPC?

>> No.15250949

>>15250944
Obviously.

>> No.15250952

>>15250929
> muh thinking segment.
Lol, yeah, no one can manage the bandwidth to expose the loony leftists and simultaneously promote homeschooling, school choice, vouchers, community schooling, etc., at the same time.

Oh except for the fact that all those options are already banned across Europe, and the government will push the narrative there in 3 years once they're done ramming homo sex ed through unopposed. Because retards like you have been doing nothing but "thinking" for the past 30 years, and as a result you've been doing nothing but losing.

>> No.15250961

>>15250939
Talk is cheap.
Actions are apocalyptic.

>> No.15250962

>>15249968
>If they say no or something along the lines of "define evil"
This only indicates how postmodern and/or relativist someone is, not how inherently subhuman or retarded they are.
These things can be correlated, however I guarantee the average Chinese can tell you what evil is and not a single one of them is what I'd call 'human', so your test is not very precise.

>> No.15250963

>>15250952
>manage the bandwidth to expose the loony leftists
Just two more weeks of you seething on the internet and the looney leftists will finally be exposed. #Trump2024

>all those options are already banned across Europe
Yep. Thanks for demonstrating my point.

>> No.15250966

>>15250475
you're not getting or answering the question
>>15249992
i dont know if i've ever seen someone actually address the point

>> No.15250972

>>15250966
>i dont know if i've ever seen someone actually address the point
That's because there is no point as such. It's just a feeling.

>> No.15250974

>>15250972
i guess if that's how you want to cope with not being able to answer the question

>> No.15250979

>>15250963
You are not a smart person. All these "thinking segment" solutions will be taken from you. If society ever manages to come out the other side of this, you will have contributed nothing to that achievement.

>> No.15250981

>>15250974
You can't even articulate the "question" properly.

>> No.15250983

>>15250979
>All these "thinking segment" solutions will be taken from you.
Not if people realize they have to take it into their own hands and start banishing you and your equal opposites from society.

>> No.15250984

>>15250981
i think it's articulated pretty well
what's the issue with how it's articulated specifically?

>> No.15250988

>>15250984
>i think it's articulated pretty well
Go ahead and articulate it in your next post, then. (You will try to deflect)

>> No.15250992

>>15250988
huh?
the question is right here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertiginous_question
were you just seething and arguing without even knowing the question?

>> No.15250994

>>15250992
>the question is right here
Articulate it in your next post. (You will deflect again)

>> No.15250995

>>15250994
yeah man I'm the one deflecting
keep samefagging and baiting in this /pol/tard thread
>Verification not required.

>> No.15251001

>>15250995
>yeah man I'm the one deflecting
Obviously. I asked you to articulate the question and you repeatedly refuse to do so, as I knew you would. The nonhuman hordes are perfectly predictable.

>> No.15251004

>>15250983
Yeah, I'm sure you and all your fellow non-participants "going their own way" will get them to that realization. Just 2 more weeks.

>> No.15251011

>>15250966
How am I not getting it? I'm on your side, it's something I've always pondered but it's hard to put into words. I'm just saying that people usually ask things like "you might as well ask why this table isn't a different table" and it's frustrating. I don't know if any scientists actually engage with it because under current paradigm they're running into a wall declaring that consciousness doesn't even exist, I don't think we'll get anywhere with this on this board either because it's mostly filled with trolls and/or bots at this point.

>> No.15251016

>>15251004
Your impotent screeching doesn't concern me. Go debate literal nobodies on the internet about whether or not children should have their dicks cut off while that agenda continues to make steady progress and infest society regardless of your "efforts". Be sure to steel-man their point. You wouldn't want to strawman these lunatics. Strawmanning is reserved for people who question your game. You should and will be killed brutally.

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>>15249648

>> No.15251125

>>15249648
No.
Consciousness is not a physical object and therefore it cannot have physical effects.

>> No.15251184

>>15249648
>Is it possible to construct an experiment for the purposes of separating NPCs and non-NPCs?
Yes. Ask them to construct an experiment for the purpose of separating NPCs and non-NPCs. If they come up with a list of points you can only reply "yes" or "no", they are NPCs.

>> No.15251200

>>15249648
I have a simple test, if they use any word with "soul" in it like "soul-crushing" or argue about soul or soulless crap they have low IQ and are NPCs.

>> No.15251226

>>15250952
>Because retards like you have been doing nothing but "thinking" for the past 30 years, and as a result you've been doing nothing but losing.
And what exactly have YOU champs been accomplishing instead?

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>>15249648
You're in one.

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15251474

>>15249968
>If they say no or something along the lines of "define evil", "what do you mean by "evil"?"

>>15250962
>This only indicates how postmodern and/or relativist someone is
>however I guaranteethe average Chinese can tell you what evil is and not a single one of them is what I'd call 'human',
>so your test is not very precise.


See? They can't answer the question. Even a simple "I don't know" would have sufficed. It's also a good question to figure out whose a bot poster.

>> No.15251477

>>15249648
>just ask a fist full of entry-level pop-culture questions bro
It's already too late. Nowhere is safe.
The problem is no one thinks they're an NPC so any test administered by a bot is worthless given that all data will get slimed up by biases of people who are not aware of having those. Disgusting. The only sensible solution is to treat everyone like a real human bean worthy of being heard and understood.

>> No.15251543

The only non NPC is me

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>>15251474
>They can't answer the question.
I'm not trying to answer your question, you little bitch, I'm criticizing your fake and gay methodology that doesn't work.
Was Nietzsche more of an NPC than the average statist ZOGboomer or chinsect? If so, then what exactly does 'NPC' connote? You'll find that most STEMniggers are NPCs precisely because they develop an uncritical dependence on reductionist materialism and make themselves philosophically retarded when they do this. See: Sam Harris, patient zero. From this we can see moralfags and relativists are equally onions and subhuman in equal measure, with alarming regularity.

Personally, I think believing in the primacy of 'ethics' as a philosophical discipline in the first place IS the NPC detector, when it's obviously just a subordinate and retarded version of aesthetics. By this metric, evil exists and is synonymous with ugliness. I can justify this claim with substantive thesis. However, I don't expect every non-NPC to agree with this prima facie, so I'm not going to make spurious claims (as you do) that understanding of ethics/meta-ethics is a valid litmus test for true personhood. Nor is it trivial to distinguish between lack of understanding as lack of comprehension (low IQ non-NPC) versus lack of actual cognizance (NPC) or feigned as a rhetorical pivot (could be either).

You are like a little baby in these matters, which is why you're pontificating on /sci/ about a topic that is clearly /lit/.
And don't ever call me a bot again. You better hope I'm not, or it means you just got bodied by chatGPT. Faggot.

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>>15251474
>They can't answer the question.
I'm not trying to answer your question, you little bitch, I'm criticizing your fake and gay methodology that doesn't work.
Was Nietzsche more of an NPC than the average statist ZOGboomer or chinsect? If so, then what exactly does 'NPC' connote? You'll find that most STEMniggers are NPCs precisely because they develop an uncritical dependence on reductionist materialism and make themselves philosophically retarded when they do this. See: Sam Harris, patient zero. From this we can see moralfags and relativists are onions and subhuman in equal measure, with alarming regularity.

Personally, I think believing in the primacy of 'ethics' as a philosophical discipline in the first place IS the NPC detector, when it's obviously just a subordinate and retarded version of aesthetics. By this metric, evil exists and is synonymous with ugliness. I can justify this claim with substantive thesis. However, I don't expect every non-NPC to agree with this prima facie, so I'm not going to make spurious claims (as you do) that understanding of ethics/meta-ethics is a valid litmus test for true personhood. Nor is it trivial to distinguish between lack of understanding as lack of comprehension (low IQ non-NPC) versus lack of actual cognizance (NPC) or feigned as a rhetorical pivot (could be either).

You are like a little baby in these matters, which is why you're pontificating on /sci/ about a topic that is clearly /lit/.
And don't ever call me a bot again. You better hope I'm not, or it means you just got bodied by chatGPT. Faggot.

>> No.15251796

>>15251789
You really are an NPC. Sheesh.

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>>15251789
>I'm not trying to answer your question, you little bitch, I'm criticizing your fake and gay methodology that doesn't work.
>And don't ever call me a bot again. You better hope I'm not, or it means you just got bodied by chatGPT.

>>15251792
>I'm not trying to answer your question, you little bitch, I'm criticizing your fake and gay methodology that doesn't work.
>And don't ever call me a bot again. You better hope I'm not, or it means you just got bodied by chatGPT.

See? A bot cannot distinguish good from evil either.

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>>15251017
>phone screenshot

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>>15250258

>> No.15252350

>>15251125
top level midwit response. My consciousness creates "physical" effects, not sure about yours though

>> No.15252354

>>15250629
Going to reddit at all is a sure sign of NPCdom

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>>15250582
>letting the people who rob my income for pay for things that actively harm me is NPC behavior
>Actual thinking humans give them the money and say "fd whatever you want with it I dont care"
Got us a stone cold retard here boys

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>caring about what the people who rob my income pay for things that actively harm me is NPC behavior
>Actually thinking humans just give them the money and say "fd whatever you want with it I dont care"
Got us a stone cold retard here boys

>> No.15252366

>>15250582
see
>>15252363

>> No.15252400

>>15249648
Identifying NPCs is easy. Identifying non-NPCs, especially over the internet, is nearly impossible without spending lots of time with them. The only real answer is >>15249667, which only works if you're a non-NPC yourself. Most of the NPCs in this thread want a reliable experiment because, being NPCs themselves, they lack the capacity for critical thought necessary to identify their own kind. If you have any doubt, simply browse the thread and look at how many people instantly suggest politics. Not even thoughtful politics, just surface level American partisan politics.

As an example, NPCs are always obsessed with the NPC topic once they become aware of it. OP is an NPC for making this thread, which a non-NPC would never do. But of course, simply not making a thread like this doesn't qualify someone as a non-NPC, because most NPCs never think about the topic enough or are even aware of it to the point that they would make a thread.

Everyone likes to think that they're not an NPC but the fact is that what the meme seems to identify as non-NPC behavior, true independent and original thought, is shockingly rare. Maybe 1 out of every 100,00 people would qualify; maybe not even that much. Certainly the vast majority of people posting in these threads as if they're free thinkers are anything but, as evidenced by the type of diagnostic criteria they give.

>> No.15252410

>>15251125
How does it affects the brain then?

>> No.15252423

>>15251832
>>15251792
>>15251474
>>15249968
Here's a good example of a NPC trying to offer criteria and not understanding why his suggestion isn't sufficient. How is >>15249968 trying to identify NPCs? By appealing to his personal politics/religion and rejecting anyone who doesn't give an answer that aligns with his personal worldview. One of the most NPC things you can possibly do is delegating your capacity for free thought to some prepackaged system of morality or ethics. If you are not at least making an attempt to create an entirely new, personal system of ethics, morality, and religion, then you are to some extent an NPC.

>> No.15252436

>>15252423
I think you can be a non-NPC with established systems of thought and ethics, the catch is you have to actually understand it and be able to defend however not just follow dogma. After all non-NPCs leave these things for the NPCs. I think one of the most tell tale signs of actual players is if they are capable of understanding nuance. This is why it is so easy to find an NPC just by talking to them. Do they have fanatical stances on topics they know next to nothing about? Then they are an NPC, they are just programmed and reacting to to stimuli. The stimuli being you are questioning their programming which they are pre-programmed to react violently too

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>>15249648

>> No.15252466

>>15249892
>Why the sudden false modesty by people who otherwise celebrate man's amazing abilities
When have I done that, anonymous user of this anonymous imageboard?

>> No.15252467

>>15252423
Another tell tale sign -though I alluded to it already- is if they are in the cult of scientism and credentilaism. They lack the ability to understand information on their own so their entire belief system is based on appeal to authority. They don't know if something is correct or not but they will viciously attack you if it goes against whatever the high priest they have been assigned tell them (see the milgram experiment). A perfect example is the NPC here who defend Quackativity simply because it came from the Jew they have been programmed to worship. They couldnt tell you the first thing about it, don't understand any of it, yet will screech like donkeys if you challenge it. It is truly behavior for non NPCs to witness - watching NPCs chimp out over crazy nonsensical shit. The irony is it is these morons calling everyone "schizo" when any sane person observing someone chimping out over opinions of things they don't even understand is about as close to being an actual as one can get.

>> No.15252471

>>15252467
It is truly *bizarre behavior for non NPCs to witness

>> No.15252474

>>15249968
>You're an NPC if you know more about metaethics than me

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>>15252444
>Peter 4:5
"But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead."

They call me a robot...but never an NPC...

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>> No.15252805

>>15252536
It can be solved with logic or guessed.

>> No.15252810

>>15252536
Most NPCs can do it.

>> No.15252816

>>15252536
that pattern not being a cross shape really hurts my head trying to rotate it. guess it's A but that's a shitty question

>> No.15252825

Not perfectly but one thing I have noticed that can be used to filter some of them is lots of NPCs will claim they wouldn't become immortal given the opportunity.

>> No.15252828

>>15252825
>lots of NPCs will claim they wouldn't become immortal given the opportunity.
A lot of them also believe their corporate masters will make them immortal in two more weeks, so that's not a very solid criterion.

>> No.15252876

How important is politics to your personal identity?
If you HAD to pick, would you say...
Very important
Somewhat important
Not too important
Not important at all

Verys are lunatic NPCs who mostly can't talk about politicians they disagree with without having an extreme pavlovian emotional response. TDS is real. Very real. Most self-reporting communists are this. Few conservatives and those have a high rate of just hanging up on me early in the survey. Leftists generally just talk my ear off and audibly suppress crying. These people all suck to talk to.

Somewhats are NPCs who have chosen a party and stand by them but can generally blend with society. Programmed but stable.

Not too muchs are generally reasonable humans though they often favor a political party. Probably vote just get "if you don't vote yous can't complain" trogladytes off their backs. Some are really up their own butts about how unique their political beliefs are.

Not at alls are hard to make blanket statements about. Oddballs. Some blackpilled. Some see politics as a waste of time for the most part. Others have really nuanced opinions. Most dislike all political parties.

Source: conducting hundreds of political interviews (push polls for democrat candidates) that include this question early on at a job that didn't make me sign an NDA back when I worked for them.

>> No.15252880

>>15252876
>How important is politics to your personal identity?
Most NPCs (like you) will declare that politics has nothing to do with their identity and that they are coming at it from an intellectual and scientific angle (that just so happens to coincide with Current Thing politics, because reality has a pro-Current-Thing bias).

>> No.15252890

>>15252880
Bad bot. Deduct 5 tokens.

>> No.15252891

>>15252890
Notice how your fully automated NPC reaction doesn't try to engage with my perfectly valid point.

>> No.15252920

>>15252891
But a history of political involvement has helped shape who I am, thankfully I eventually realized politics wasn't a useful tool for me to get what I want and instead served only as a heinous time sink whose only benefit was a superficial sense of belonging and an inflated sense of self-righteousness that was oft-reinforced by political teammates. Demonizing one group while constantly making excuses for the other was wildly incogruent with reality so, yeah, I abandoned political party membership.

>> No.15252926

>>15252920
Notice how your fully automated NPC reaction doesn't actually have anything to do with my point.

>> No.15253068

>>15252926
I wonder how long interactions on the internet will still have any value. Its a mixed bag of genuine people, bots, trolls, and propagandists. At what point do Igive up on it and shift those time, mental effort, and emotional resources elsewhere?

>> No.15253080

>>15253068
You are clearly a bot and interactions with you are worthless, but my point still stands.

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>>15252474
>The more you know about metaethics the more NPC you become
FTFY. It's also how lawyers and media translate and warp reality when instances like pic related happen.

>> No.15253693

Ask them if they're vaccinated against covid

>> No.15253781

>>15252810
You give the average person way too much credit. The biggest problem with the question is that 25% of NPCs will get it right by chance. Needs more choices

>> No.15253870

>>15252536
A

>> No.15253915

>>15253655
if they dont mention the races it means it was a nigger suspect and white victim

>> No.15253994

NPCs love definitive and hate questions. They like being told what to do and having no one question it. Because if you question it that means they actually have to think now instead of just follow orders and they hate thinking, it causes them great distress. They want to surf the theta brainwave state (borderline hypnosis) and asking question snaps them out of it like a gunshot waking someone out bed. The way they try to equalize in that event is to ridicule the person asking questions until they can return to theta state baseline, If their attempts to ridicule you don't work and you stand your ground or even win others over to your side, they will have a vendetta against you no matter how wrong they were and how right you were because it is never about right and wrong to them it is about control. Screenshot this

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>>15249648
>>15249728
>>15249968

Almost every NPC test in this thread relies on the political or philosophical views of the subject. This is wrong, from personal experience at least.
I've recently moved and met a lot of new people. Some very intelligent, (140+iq) who are definitely NPCs. And some extreme normies who seem to have very high levels of consciousness.

Something that I did notice is that NPCs seem a lot happier. I don't know a single depressed person who I'd call an NPC. And the other way around, I don't know a single NPC who is depressed (unless resulting from something physical like postpartum depression).

This makes me believe the main difference between NPCs and non-NPCs is how much they question the norms. (This itself leads to a higher level of consciousness). When doing this it doesn't matter what the conclusion of the subject is. A white girl listing to lil pump while drinking her 15$ starbucks coffee dreaming about marrying a rich man isn't necessarily an NPC. If she hasn't considered any of her choices/ lifestyle and just chooses the path of least resistance, then she is an NPC. The same counts for black-pilled 4channers. Do you believe all this non-conventional theories because you gave it much thought, or is it just a result of your motivated reasoning? If your life is shit it's easy to call the game rigged and blame the jews or niggers while calling yourself a free thinker.

So a better test to determine an NPC would be something like this:
- Ask questions about someones life philosophy or why they arrange their life in a certain way.
If they reply with something like: "Oh just because that's how life is" they are an NPC.
If they give a more in depth answer they might be conscious.
This is the hard part which is different for each situation.
Try to find out whether their answers on the previous questions are a result of emotional bias or whether they actually gave it some thought.

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I'll give you a good indicator if the person is the NPC or not. Usually NPC's have a basic linear thinking and how to find out things.

Meanwhile the player is equipped with numerous methodologies, such as scientific method and other logical tools.

Most NPC's just pretend that they actually work or understand things, most of the times it's just a shallow imitation. If you want to find out if it's an NPC, construct a small situation or the argument that requires more advanced calculations and methodologies to get applied for it to be solved. You will see their dumbfounded faces, or a smart smirk.

Good luck Anon.