/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15249439]

Should I go into academia?

Any anons have experience

[Anonymous No.15249441]

>>15249439
Academia does not allow free thought so beware that if you think freely, you will be absolutely miserable

[Anonymous No.15249442]

>>15249439
if you are asking this question, don't

[Anonymous No.15249458]

>>15249441
When you say free thought u mean the right to say nigger and tranny lol

>>15249442
Is that , 55k job or medschool

[Anonymous No.15249467]

>>15249458
>When you say free thought u mean the right to say nigger and tranny lol
No, the right to research what you want and report your findings honestly.

[Anonymous No.15249470]

>>15249467
>No, the right to research what you want
You think you could do that in a corporation where your treated like wage slave .
>report your findings honestly.
Peer reviewing ?
Prestigious journals?
Academic honesty ?

[Anonymous No.15249474]

>>15249470
>Peer reviewing ?
>Prestigious journals?
>Academic honesty ?
None of these do what you think they do. Academics are dishonest, journals are pay for play, and peer review is gatekeeping. If you want to be ground up in the system this badly then go ahead and do it, but we're trying to push you back from the jaws of the machine.

[Anonymous No.15249484]

>>15249474
What do I do with my biology major that has compsci minor

[Anonymous No.15249485]

>>15249484
Make a fortune in a biotech startup.

[Anonymous No.15249486]

>>15249470
listen to this anon >>15249474
if you think you can do the kind of research you want in academia you are either fucking too green or retarded. academia is a cesspool of nepotism, group thinking... etc.
unless you were born rich then you can probably do shit on your own will even though you'll still get sacked if you don't belong in the "tribe".
if you are poor, you'll have to fight for grants to keep you and your lab afloat. a PhD can cost half a million to a million grant money to train. you potentially need to produce at least a few good one to get tenured. then you'll still have to spend most of your time teaching useless classes and fight for grant, again, to do any kind of research. even then, if your research doesn't follow main stream opinions, you'll still wont publish.

[Anonymous No.15249490]

>>15249485
They need masters or phD most wont hire guys with bachelor degree. Im even published and worked in a few labs . Im about to graduate with in a few months . >>15249486
Whats the alternative then ? You cant just tell me academia is bad while ignoring everything else . Maybe academia is the best option for my predicament

[Anonymous No.15249493]

>>15249490
oh, you are not planning to become a professor.
then get your PhD and get out you retard. a PhD nowaday is not so much "academia", but more like working cheap unpaid labour for a degree that you need to not being gatekeeped by the tribe.

[Anonymous No.15249501]

>>15249493
Its colleges fault for watering down the worth of a bachelor degree nowadays . I know guys who just partied throughout school and finished with 3.8 gpa in compsci. He cheated throughout most of it and yet still succeeded in the end .

I don’t understand the seething hate for academia on /sci/ is it that bad ?

Or are you guys autists that ostracize yourselves for calling someone some racial derogatory term

[Anonymous No.15249507]

>>15249501
>I don’t understand the seething hate for academia on /sci/ is it that bad ?
>Or are you guys autists that ostracize yourselves for calling someone some racial derogatory term
I can't speak for the other anon but I'm just a normal guy in a normal field without deranged political opinions. It's shit is all, and the only way to progress is nepotism. Anyone with actual talent leaves to work in corporate doing what they want to do and gets 10x the starting salary for it.

[Anonymous No.15249520]

>>15249507
Anon don’t listen to these demoralizes. Pursue the boundaries of science and accumulate knowledge

[Anonymous No.15249528]

>>15249501
academia is bad? you even need to ask?
in the last 50 years have you seen any research that is of importance or just more shilling to sell useless shit to the public?
heck, even physics is corrupted by Ed Witten, the man who is so superior above men anyone who doesn't follow his ideas of a theory get shat on.
for what it worth I know some of the shit from my previous experiences doing both MSc and currently doing a PhD. my professor told me how much money he spent on each students and how university take like 3/4 of grant money and pay the rest to students. how fucking you have to say the right thing to get grants. and you don't even have to deliver any tangible results for the fucking grant, just need to publish some and call it done. publishing to a Q1 journal is piss easy, especially when my professor is one of the top people of the fucking journal I'm submitting to.

[Anonymous No.15249550]

>>15249528
Why does the university take 3/4 of the money tf and whats wrong with Ed Witten isnt he the current Einstein of physics especially when it comes to string theory

[Anonymous No.15249554]

>>15249550
>isnt he the current Einstein of physics especially when it comes to string theory
That's the problem, anon. String Theory has been dead in the water for almost 20 years by now, but it's still getting spending.

[Anonymous No.15249557]

>>15249441
>this is what schizos and "free thinkers" actually believe

[Anonymous No.15249563]

>>15249554
Dont tell me your a schizo who believes in unified theory
>>15249557
Enlighten us anon

[Anonymous No.15249567]

>>15249554
problem is not that it's still getting spending. problem is that it's still getting a crazy amount of spending and PhD research time. my man Ed Witten is so superhuman even if he's wrong, physicists will still follow him to the end.
>>15249550
https://twitter.com/profericpop/status/1608359545377820672
look, Stanford is still mild. in my university, the overhead cost is like 100%

[Anonymous No.15249576]

My PhD supervisor made himself first author on my paper.I worked on an article for a project that my supervisor involved me in. This was a project funded through some grants.

I did more than three quarters of the work, and my supervisor (without letting me know) added 4 other co-authors on the paper. The contribution from some of the included peers is minimal. I need to point out I was not paid anything out of the grant, but I am sure the others were. At that point, I was still first author.

My supervisor submitted the article to a journal, and changed the order of the authors, making himself first. When I asked him why, he made some bogus excuse about the grant, and how he needed to be first because of that.

Any advice?

[Anonymous No.15249583]

>>15249563
>Dont tell me your a schizo who believes in unified theory
No, I just know that the field has largely rejected string theory atm. The only thing keeping it around is the inertia from people like Witten still being alive and having tenure.

[Anonymous No.15249587]

>>15249576
Unfortunately, your supervisor is an asshole and you're fucked. you are in a very bad position. he has all the power over you. if you haven't commited to choosing him as supervisor yet but if you did, changing school or switching supervisor is almost impossible. I don't know what to say anon. If I were you, I would've drank myself to death even though the best course of action would be start to interview for a job in industry as soon as possible and get the fuck out of that lab.

[Anonymous No.15249590]

>>15249583
You should watch the Joe Rogan episode that had on Weinstein

[Anonymous No.15249592]

>>15249587
don't let anyone know you are interviewing btw. if they ask why you want to leave academia during your job interview, don't say your supervisor is an asshole, just make up a story about your research interest no longer align and you want to make real impact or something.

[Anonymous No.15249605]

>>15249587
How can I get back at him anons? I want revenge (nothing illegal).

[Anonymous No.15249611]

>>15249605
don't. they might be well connected so if you get back at him that will only hurt your future. the research community is very small. it's best to divorce as smooth as possible. you want to salvage your PhD as much as you can.

[Anonymous No.15249612]

>>15249605
Fuck his daughter or son. Post videos online.

[Anonymous No.15249621]

>>15249612
Im a virgin (had a few blowjobs but never penetrated ) don’t know if he even has a family .

>>15249611
Nothing I can do anonymous?

[Cult of Passion No.15249631]

>>15249563
>Dont tell me your a schizo who believes in unified theory
Theyre all schizo...all the ones above you are schizo, all those below are midwit-lmao-sauce.

This is the way of the world. Get used to it.

[Anonymous No.15249805]

>>15249520
Your picture is inaccurate. Most graduate theses are worthless.

[Anonymous No.15249839]

>>15249605
stalk him for a while on the dl, gather personal information. start threatening him in subtle ways. one ive used is dumping litres of animal blood over someone's car about once a month, different times of the month so they cant predict it, for a few months. you could leave dead animals in a family member's mailbox. even just writing notes that remind him he's being watched while casually dropping info about his family members' routines. you have to be absolutely certain these activities are untraceable and spaced out enough for police not to gaf while you slowly create in him a state of absolute paranoia and fear. LOL

[Anonymous No.15249861]

>>15249557
>what is grant funding

[Anonymous No.15249942]

>>15249839
Cameras and neighbors?
>>15249805
Explain

[Anonymous No.15250092]

>>15249942
>Explain
If you get zero citations you didn't actually expand the field at all.

[Cult of Passion No.15250167]

>>15250092
>the fact you had to explain that means his thesis was never going to change anything for anyone

[Anonymous No.15250188]

Adult day care.

[Anonymous No.15250818]

>>15249439
Dead end, nothing to do except suck government dick for grant money

[Anonymous No.15250820]

>>15250092
>citations are any proof of valid scientific advancement

[Anonymous No.15250838]

>>15249439
>Should I go into academia?
You won't; there are no academia jobs. Or rather you've only got a 5% chance of landing an actual job in academia. 95% of people in my program get stuck in post-doc hell where they earn less than minimum wage (taking into account their actual work hours) to be someone's slave or in some other shitty soul-sucking job. But if you manage to be part of the 5% you'll have the comfiest most stable well-paying job you can find. Only do a PhD if you're fine with those odds.

[Anonymous No.15250849]

>>15250838
What if im black and have a 3.8 gpa will affirmative action workout for me

[Anonymous No.15250852]

>>15250838
>stuck in post-doc hell where they earn less than minimum wage (taking into account their actual work hours
Very misleading. Nobody overestimates their actual working hours more than post-docs.

[Anonymous No.15250853]

>>15249439
Academy is fucked up. You need to do a Ph.D., after that somelike 4-6+ years of postdoc, and if you are lucky you can land some offer. All those years you'll live like a fucking dog with minimum wage. I think that the best is to do a Ph.D. and go to R&D in industry...

[Anonymous No.15250869]

>>15250852
it's worse than that. you'll be stuck writing grant for your professor and administrative task 50% of the time and the rest spending doing research for other people.

[Anonymous No.15250882]

>>15250849
if you are a nigger and have a few mediocre publications, you'll get anything, my dear.
if you are a niggress, you'll be autohired in some institutions.

[Anonymous No.15250897]

>>15250882
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic and making a snide remark or delusional poltard. Why is it that if I accomplish something and work hard for it gets overlooked because of something as insignificant as my skin color which I had no control of. If I passed the texts , have citations and been published what makes me any different from other peers who got to same place as me. This kind of arguments really hurts other POC and gives them inferiority complex. I had a phase where I wished to be white as possible and even considered bleaching myself

[Anonymous No.15250899]

>>15249490
>They need masters or phD most wont hire guys with bachelor degree
They will for internships if you have a CS minor

[Anonymous No.15250906]

>>15250849
Yes, but if you want to go somewhere good try to get at least some research. Look at REUs in your field

[Anonymous No.15250907]

>>15250897
it's the current situation, dear. and that's how life work. I don't care about what you think, dear. when I see a nigger or niggress, I know they benefited lots form affirmative actions. everyone know what's going on in the academic world but they just don't say it in public. you can lie to a few people all the time, all people one time, but you can't lie to everyone all the time.
a true proud nigger will never want to bleach himself, never want to take advantage of affirmative action, never get inferiority complex because of his race because he knows what he is capable and can do everything he wants on his own merits and abilities. you are not one and the only viable way for you to advance is to take advantage of affirmative actions.

[Anonymous No.15250914]

>>15250907
I hope you god takes evil out of your heart I just don’t understand what we did to you to make you this hateful and arrogant . Try putting yourself in my shoes for once instead of listening to poltards and what you see on the media . Im just as capable as you

[Anonymous No.15251058]

>>15250820
If no one notices and no one builds upon it, how is it an advancement?

[Anonymous No.15251075]

>>15249474
What did you study?

In my experience, and largely those of past students in our lab, if we could come up with a new and interesting thing to research within the umbrella of polymers our PI gave us the freedom to do so. If he saw it was going nowhere then he'd pull you back into your original project.

>t. PhD polymer chem

[Anonymous No.15251121]

I had a tenure at 31 and even I regret not going to the industry

[Anonymous No.15251134]

>>15249470
You are a kid but just go an study, it's fine
t. Had great old environmentalist teacher who brought big international boys but she still has no funds for her dream

[Anonymous No.15251139]

Don't. Academia is lame. The whole process is broken.

[Anonymous No.15251218]

>>15249439
I have been from the bottom to top of east coast academia and they are firing and rewriting history of anyone who is white and non female
Skip it, consider your education is worth 100k, spend that 100k on investing or your family estate, don't throw it away to some dumb institution
It was not like this 40 years ago, but with the internet and everything if you are going somewhere to make money you have been coddled to do so or are suffering unnecessarily
Go take the free money from loans and grants and do electrical engineering or a similar hardcore field, even computer science is a joke now that it is filled with females
The earlier you escape, the better off you will be
We don't need reality to be obfuscated behind a "degree" we need easy to grasp concepts and people who are willing to freely share that knowledge to the right people

[Anonymous No.15251243]

>>15249439
If you want to be an overworked little bitch for students yes

[Anonymous No.15251326]

>>15249439
Mos of your time will be spent trying to suck grant money out of an NSF program director's cock, only for your institution to take about 30% of every funding dollar you bring in

The rest of your time will be spent groveling to undergraduates so that you get good teaching reviews for your tenure review.

Enjoy the academy!

[Anonymous No.15251472]

>>15249439
Hell. No.
>>15249442
>>15249861
>>15249474
>>15249486
All true.
>>15249501
>I don’t understand the seething hate for academia
I'm sure some people enjoy academia, but the ONLY people I would recommend go into it are those with an overriding passion. If there's even the smallest shred of uncertainty about going to grad school, don't do it. Why? Because you get paid less than minimum wage, will at times have to work all days of the week with bizarre hours (underpaid and over worked, little time for yourself or those you love), your results are only really valuable if you find something sensational (luck), you have very little recourse if your PI is unreasonable (some of my peers have been threatened with the withholding of references if they wouldn't accept insane hours).
Ultimately, you're far better off just going to medical school or law school in place of a graduate degree (same time, far greater earning potential). If you must pursue academia, then yeah there isn't really an option. You have to go into academia. But if you can avoid it, avoid it. Just asking us is probably reason enough not to go.
>>15250853
>>15251243
>>15251326
>>15251139
True.
>>15250914
Nope. As long as affirmative action exists, there will always be the recognition that the bar you passed wasn't as high. How could anyone really think you're just as good when the standards are lowered for you?

[Anonymous No.15251965]

>>15250914
I don't worship a god to repent to and I don't think this is any evil.
You asked for affirmative action to help you progress your career in academia while also demand everyone else respect you the same as they do for people who don't get affirmative action or discriminated by it. How about you grow yourself out of a nigger attitude and become a normal people like everyone?

[Anonymous No.15252034]

Good:
>do research
>meet smart and interesting people
>travel the world, sort of
>make somewhat more money than at mcdonalds

Bad (a lot of this is mitigated if you are brilliant/lucky, but then again if you're so brilliant maybe you should get rich instead):
>no job security, you will never be a professor, you may have to take a job in [randomly selected city]
>you have to work like a dog, publish or perish etc.
>you have to do lots of really annoying bullshit involving students, bureaucracy, grant applications, and more
>conferences are kind of boring a lot of the time and travelling for such a mundane purpose is a drag
>your research will probably not meet your expectations
>you can't be too BASED (I know this is very important to you retards)
>you probably won't get rich
>you're generally at the mercy of your supervisor(s) and various other political nonsense
>you will have little power or control over your own life and destiny

Overall it kinda sucks. Doing a phd isn't bad if you think you can handle it, you have a good offer/supervisor, and you can get something else going on the side. It might lead to something great but it probably won't.

[Anonymous No.15253395]

>>15252034
thank you anon i needed to read this

[Anonymous No.15253547]

>>15249439
>Should I go into academia?
That depends on a lot of things, much is discussed over in /scg/ and the related FAQ:
https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
>Any anons have experience
Sure, I do, and many others in /sci/. What >>15252034 writes is fairly accurate and I did something similar.
After 2 rounds as a postdoc I left academia, went to industry and now have a very comfortable salary with excellent job security. It is important to leave academia earlyenough and avoid being trapped. A PhD and a round or two as a postdoc is a great experience in terms of life but not in terms of money. You start slaving away in a normal job early enough, so value the years you did something else.

[HoB No.15255275]

>>15249439
Maybe, but I wouldn't rush there. Maybe get as far as you can and then look at other opportunities, you can always return back.
That's essentially what I'm doing with the podcast. Nobody took any interest in the project like this for the 2 years I was trying to get it off the ground. And I was willing to give up any credit but it still just got stuck inbureaucracy and the lack of interest (I know the subject is niche and all but come on, you study much less impactful things in the history department or the natural science department DESU).

Personally have an issue with the idea that you're supposed to hit the ground running at 18 and just gogogoggo until you're a professor or something.
It is true that knowledge is power and a pursuit of intellectual life can be considered noble and just and all that...
But in reality all that anons are saying is true in general, and it is true almost in every country regardless of political regimes and other things (that factor usually only makes it worse)

It comes down to this in my opinion

Do you wanna be the world's leading expert in (for example) a subspecies of a rare butterflies. As in you are the only person out of 8 billion people and specifically about a million scientists on this planet that knows just about everything that humanity knows about them?
If the answer is yes than you can endure everything and suck the fattest cocks and be trampled and stabbed in the back until you're at the top and now you trample and stab others.
A real ends justify the means Faustian bargain for bragging rights plus a 1% chance that you will contribute to a discovery that will "advance" the human civilization.

[Anonymous No.15257285]

>>15249470
>corporation where your treated like wage slave
At least they pay you a lot better than academia slave labor.

[Anonymous No.15257290]

do you think you can actually have some impact on the field and expand our understanding without writing peer reviewed papers? Dawkins is a famous example of a guy you wrote books instead of peer reviewed papers and had some impact

[Anonymous No.15257349]

Academia no longer serves its true purpose anymore with nepotism, peer review, group meta thinking etc
Since noone here in this thread have managed to make this suggestion
Consider private labs and groups that are secretive and exclusive af the meta of these are on different frontier than public cucked academia
True intellectuals are not on academia nowadays they are on private cliqued research groups not available to public
If you care more about your ego and monetizing scientific acting and popularity career then choose academia to deal with that bs
If you care about intellectual persuit then get gud to get noticed by private cliques, research groups or companies(corporation)

[Anonymous No.15258292]

>>15249439
No. Academia, at least here in America, is a mess. There aren't as many tenure track positions as there are newly minted phds by far. Getting a PhD pays poorly, lasts years, has miserable hours despite the difficult technical work that you'd be doing, and there's all sorts of awful office politics. Nothing is worse than having your dissertation rejected because one professor hates your advisor and will do petty shit to get at him. If you want your life's work to be in a technical field get a BS/MS and get a job in industry.

[Anonymous No.15259739]

do you like sucking cock and not having original toughts? if so, you'll fit right in.

[Anonymous No.15259749]

do you like sucking cock and not having original thoughts? if so, you'll fit right in

[Anonymous No.15260034]

>>15251058
Wouldn't that imply all of science is a ponzi scheme? Is the only way to notice and "build upon" or use research to do more research that cites it? What is the world outside academia?

[Anonymous No.15260037]

>>15260034
Yes it is. You correctly identified what science is. Academia doesn't care about the world outside it, it's a walled garden (or an ivory tower).

[Anonymous No.15260049]

>>15249501
If you're in it for stability, salary, or status, stay away from academia. If you have literally any doubt in your mind about whether to be an academic, you're not cut out for it.

[Anonymous No.15260064]

>>15249605
vandalize the papers on his door, his actual door, and more. like show up at 2 am and pee on his door. strategically time when this occurs to be during finals week so he'll blame some undergrad student.

[Anonymous No.15260633]

>>15249605
What’s his name and what uni does he work at?

[Anonymous No.15261765]

>>15249576
>Any advice?
Yeah. This is blackmail, plain and simple, and the reason why it happens, and happens often, is that they get away with it and know they will get away with it. And if anyone complains, they will not be believed and lose out totally.

Miseable as this is (something similar happened to me too), you just have to accept it until you get your degree and is in a safe position.
Then you can name the university.

[Cult of Passion No.15261773]

>>15261765
>you just have to accept it until you get your degree and is in a safe position.
>Then you can name the university

[Anonymous No.15262327]

>>15261773
Oh, I didn't say you would enjoy it. Academia has already collapsed from the rot and it reeks. Retraction Watch shows you the tip of the iceberg, and then mainly regarding life sciences. Already we have vigilantes unmasking frauds. Some have reached serious notority:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Francis_(science_critic)
Press won't write much since they are politically aligned. The Altzheimer fraud is perhaps big enough with an enormous impact in terms of loss of life that it could become mainstream news. It just took 16 years.

Still, getting a PhD is good. Doing a postdoc can be great. Just don't aim for tenure.

[Anonymous No.15262379]

>>15249442
It's like when people ask if they should get a PhD. If you have to ask, no.

[Anonymous No.15262402]

I have 160 IQ but a broken family situation and no guidance from any intelligent people in my life. Is a PHD for me?

[Anonymous No.15262406]

>>15262402
That sounds like a great recipe for getting fucked by the type of faculty people are complaining about in this thread.

[Anonymous No.15262474]

>>15249576
I would just eat shit and take it. The goal of a PhD program is to get a PhD. Nothing more. There will be plenty of time for first author papers in future. I compare academia to professional wrestling, PhD students always jobbers to the department. Get a PhD then go on a heel or baby face run on your own.

[Anonymous No.15262486]

>>15262474
Good morning sir!

[Anonymous No.15262514]

>>15262474
if you get a PhD without any first author paper, you career will get fucked regardless. why not get the fuck out right now?

[Anonymous No.15262528]

>>15262514
Because your PhD is done. I would ask advisor if this is the norm going forward before I mysteriously disappear one day and no one gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.15262534]

>>15262528
I'm not that anon but he doesn't say he's finishing his PhD either. it's just one of the project and he's not even paid by the grant. so probably not his thesis work. imagine having suck the cock of his asshole supervisor for the next 2-4 years.

[Anonymous No.15262535]

>>15250914
>Im just as capable as you
This is, on average, just not true.
Blacks are of far lower intelligence, impulse control etc. than Europeans and East Asians.
And now, under the axioms of egalitarianism, easily observable outcomes contradict the axioms of equality, and thus are "corrected" by preferential treatment. e.g. affirmative action.

[Anonymous No.15262545]

>>15250820
>>15250092
not even that.
Most are worthless whether or not someone reads it, or maybe someone cites them as a source so they can write more worthless shit.
Give me a break.

[Anonymous No.15262562]

>>15262534
Unless he picked an advisor that never graduated anyone there may be some more to story. I argue stick with it regardless of how much shit you ear.

For record, I did 4 first author papers before PhD. But I just think you people here under estimate how long a career is. You can set the world on fire in corporate or at your post-doc (academia is never not looking for slave lavor). I did 15 years in corporate and only now think my work is peaking. I disagree with a PhD is some cathartic moment that immediately makes you Einstein.

[Anonymous No.15262621]

>>15262562
And final comment about this subject from me. Worst worst case scenario if advisor is a weirdo and no one else will take you and you are too socially inept to play the whole “want to change my research focus”, you change from PhD to MS. You can probably get an MS by the time you get through interviews for a quality job. Quitting is so overrated. Take it from Mr corporate who had so many people quit and regret it, make them fire you.

[Anonymous No.15264355]

>>15249576
How much time are you willing to invest in this?

The following story is more than 20 years old. Two students got tired of having the professor pilfering their reulsta nd publishing in his name only, leaving out the students that needed the publication count. Academic psychopathy is not new. So they decided to take him down, and fabricated an experiment with very good results, just too complex for any peer reviewers to try this out for themselves, also a well known problem. So true to form, the prof. ripped off all the data, published in his name only - the die was cast.
The students then had to wait until people tried replication (so not life sciences), and of course all attemps failed. He probably realised what had happened, but he had painted himself into a corner he could not escape from, and was fired.

[Anonymous No.15264361]

>>15249439
It's amongst the more fulfilling surrogate activities for some. That's about it. No real value or anything.

[Anonymous No.15264501]

>>15249439
>Should I go into academia?
Only if you either do not have controversial opinions, or are ready and able to conceal them until you have secured tenure. As >>15249441 and others have pointed out, the groupthink is very strong in academia. A good example of this is NDEs. No matter what the evidence says, academia thinks that they _MUST_ be hallucinations somehow because materialism _MUST_ be true. And anyone who questions this dogma is shown the true nature of academias closed-mindedness and dogmatic groupthink.

Yet, here for instance is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE you realize that life is the dream and the NDE world is the real world.

As one person quoted in pic related summarized it:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.

[Anonymous No.15264513]

>>15249441
>>15249458
Actually lost my tutoring position for refusing to call a tranny their pronouns, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.15264650]

>>15250897
I don't know you as an individual, you may well be just as capable as anyone else.

However, you've got your reasoning a little bit backwards. You're saying, if I understand it correctly, that you are taken less seriously than someone who has your qualifications but is white. But in most cases, a white person with your qualifications would be less likely to be selected for the job/prize/whatever.

That these selection processes in the west discriminate based on race and gender is not even disputed. Most job listings outright state that they prefer certain groups. I've observed and been involved in multiple hiring processes, and every time the preference would be to hire a black or female applicant. Most of the time there simply isn't one that's even a realistic choice. But if there was one, they would certainly be hired above a white/asian man of similar or even somewhat higher quality. This inevitably results in a selection bias where the white/asian dudes who make the cut are more capable on average. What's more, even if not everyone talks about it openly, everyone is aware of the situation so they will make assumptions. Simply because of logic, this process makes it rational to assume a difference in average ability based on your demographic even for the people who are not racist or sexist.

Well, it's not entirely unreasonable to observe the demographic disparity in the field and want to do something about it. However as things are currently done the achieved effect, as you have observed, is the opposite of promoting equality, even for the minorities supposedly favored. It particularly sucks for such people who are genuinely talented.

[Anonymous No.15264796]

>>15264513
That's messed up.

[Anonymous No.15264886]

>>15262621
>make them fire you.
Why? Honestly, please explain.

[Anonymous No.15264888]

>>15264796
what's the process, anon?
I want to know in case I go through the same.
also, name and shame the institution.

[Anonymous No.15264890]

>>15264888
is for >>15264513

[Anonymous No.15264934]

>>15264888
The tutoring center was in a section of the library, my boss is always within earshot. Nothing happened after the little freak left, but I got called into boss's office the next week and told that I didn't "represent the student body's interests".
Guess I should have seen it coming. One of my interview questions was "how will you work to accomodate students of every race, sex, and gender identity?" and my boss referred to his wife as his "partner" whenever we shot the shit.
Not naming the uni cause I'm not doxxing myself, I'll just say that it was in Idaho.

[Anonymous No.15264937]

>>15264934
>I'll just say that it was in Idaho.
They even have poz in midwest universities? Insane.

[Anonymous No.15264957]

>>15264937
While I attend uni in Idaho I originally grew up in Nebraska, and the poz shit is even spreading there. This fantasy of "just run to some based rural area and get some land" to escape clown world isn't realistic anymore.